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00:00Do you feel pregnant?
00:01I do, kind of.
00:03Previously on My Big Fat Fabulous Life.
00:05You know I got artificially inseminated yesterday.
00:09Dad, no, that's good.
00:11She wants to hear you say I'm happy.
00:13Why would he be so unsupportive?
00:17I started listening to this podcast, Two Girls, One Ghost, hosted by Sabrina and Corinne.
00:22They've agreed to show us all the spooky stuff around Salem.
00:26I love a change.
00:27I love a new vibe.
00:28I'll never leave this area.
00:30I feel like it could be really good for you.
00:32Salem has everything that she would want.
00:33We're totally trying to convince Whitney to move here.
00:36Did I tell you about my bell?
00:37My friend from England.
00:38Welcome to downtown Greensboro.
00:40This is a city, right?
00:41This is a city.
00:42It's more like a big town.
00:46No one's asking her to dance, and this is a common theme here.
00:49Maybe Greensboro isn't the place for her to find love.
00:52Not a single person approached me, and then everybody approached y'all, and it happens all the time.
00:56You need to get out of here, like now.
00:57I just don't know how much longer I can stay in Greensboro, hoping things are going to get better.
01:02Look at Goosey Girl.
01:17Goosey Girl.
01:19Goosey Girl, walk.
01:20Goosey.
01:22She's too cute.
01:22She hates walking with me because she runs with Todd.
01:25Like they like sprint.
01:27So were you able to get all packed and everything?
01:29Yes.
01:29I'm so sad.
01:30It's just gone so quick.
01:32It has gone so quick.
01:33I mean, I've had so much fun in the short time, you know, we've had together.
01:37Yeah.
01:37Having Ma Bell here from London has been so fun.
01:41I really don't want her to go.
01:42And being around her, like, makes me think about our time in London, of course, which makes me think about how much I miss being in a big city with lots of action and connecting with a like-minded person like Ma Bell.
01:54So I'm really grateful that she's here.
01:58Are you hungover?
01:59A little bit.
02:00I am a little tired.
02:01Are you?
02:01Yeah.
02:01Oh.
02:02What happened with that guy?
02:04So you saw I was in a mood, right?
02:06Mm-hmm.
02:06So the whole reason I was in a mood is because as soon as we got upstairs, I clocked him.
02:11I saw him and I thought he was cute and I thought he was looking at me.
02:14Well, then he comes over and grabs Karen to dance, right?
02:17And then I got up there and I was staring at him like he never asked me to dance.
02:22So I was in a mood.
02:23I was already feeling rejected and upset.
02:26So annoying.
02:28Gosh.
02:30Our night out on the town, unfortunately, reinforced the exact opposite of what I was hoping, which is that even when I put myself out there, men in Greensboro do not approach me, even just to dance.
02:42How many times do I have to put myself out there just to, like, feel like I'm getting rejected over and over?
02:48It is absolutely exhausting.
02:50I just wanted to apologize for being so frank about, you know, get the f*** out of Greensboro.
02:56Oh, yeah, you don't have to apologize.
02:57But if you truly feel unhappy here, then, you know, why not?
03:02True.
03:03I do feel like I'm always happier somewhere else.
03:06That's what I've noticed about myself.
03:08I mean, I've noticed that when we were in London together.
03:11You're definitely a city girl, more of a busy city girl.
03:14I feel the same.
03:16She would find a boyfriend, Goosey.
03:18The Whitney I met in London, I'd say, was very happy, colorful, and spending time with her here, obviously, in her hometown, she seems more reserved and just not that energetic.
03:33I would love Whitney to live in a city like London that's bigger, more vibrant.
03:38There's more options for her, especially dating.
03:41She loves British guys, so I would love for her to move on.
03:44I mean, she's been here nearly all her life, and she's still single.
03:49Just, yeah, I feel so isolated all the time.
03:50I just feel like there's nothing.
03:51You never see anybody.
03:52There's nothing going on.
03:54I mean, it's a nice place for animals and families and, you know.
03:57Yeah, and I guess if it turns out you are pregnant, you would have a reason to stay here.
04:04Well, yeah.
04:05I guess you have your family around you.
04:06Yeah.
04:07But if you're not pregnant, I mean, what would keep you staying here?
04:11Nothing.
04:15I'm really feeling pulled to leave Greensboro.
04:20There's just a huge part of me that's really longing for new experiences and new people, and I'm definitely not going to find that here.
04:27But I also feel like I'm in kind of a holding pattern until I find out if I'm pregnant or not, because that is going to inform the next chapter of my life.
04:37Are you going to miss Goosey?
04:39Yes.
04:39Do you want to walk her?
04:40I know you do.
04:42Sweet girl.
04:43She wants to run.
04:43She's getting a little trot.
04:44She's like, oh, we're going downhill.
04:46She's getting ready.
04:47I'll be just behind you like this.
04:50Come on, Goose.
04:51Come on, Goose.
04:53Oh, she's like, yes.
04:54Go, Goose.
04:55We're running.
04:56Go, Goose.
04:57Oh, my God.
05:19I miss you.
05:20Every time I see y'all, I'm just like, why are they?
05:22You're so beautiful to me.
05:24I don't know why.
05:24Oh, my God.
05:25I always think that.
05:25I call you every day.
05:27Yeah.
05:27Now, I don't know if you can see right up at the top here, I've made my altar.
05:31I love it.
05:32You are a witch into practice.
05:34That's what I'm saying.
05:35You're actually doing the thing.
05:36Yes.
05:36I have all this stuff.
05:38I have all the candles and stuff that, like, I got in Salem.
05:41I really miss Sabrina and Corinne.
05:43I miss our cuddle coven and chatting with spirits and all that kind of stuff.
05:48They're totally invested in all of my, like, mystical things that I'm doing, which unfortunately have not worked.
05:55I have yet to conjure up a soulmate or even a date in Greensboro.
05:59We have to call you because we want to see you, and we want you to record with us a podcast episode where we talk about what we did at the Henry Derby house.
06:08Right.
06:08The seance and everything.
06:09Right.
06:10And also, you have ghost stories, Whitney, and we want, we've heard a little bit of them.
06:15It deserves to be on the podcast.
06:17Okay.
06:18Well, can I bring Jess?
06:20Yeah.
06:21Duh.
06:21I bet she would love to come up.
06:22I don't know if she'll be free, but.
06:24Bring whoever you want, like, this weekend.
06:26Yeah.
06:26It's very short notice, but.
06:28Oh.
06:28Do you have any plans?
06:30Um, let me think.
06:33All the men, all the dates I'll have to cancel.
06:36No.
06:36Bring them up here with you.
06:38I'm kidding.
06:38I have no dates.
06:39Does it work for you to come up this weekend?
06:41Okay.
06:41So, I mean, yeah, I have to get a flight, but, I mean, I don't have anything to do this weekend.
06:45Hell yeah.
06:46The invitation to go back to Salem and be on the podcast is so exciting.
06:52I manifested this.
06:53I may not have been able to manifest a date yet, but I think I manifested this and my friendship
06:58with Corinne and Sabrina.
07:00So, I am so pumped to do this and shake off my Greensboro blues.
07:06Wait, we have to practice.
07:07What is it?
07:07Three girls and a determinate number of ghosts?
07:09Yes.
07:09Okay.
07:10Yeah.
07:10I'm ready.
07:11Okay.
07:13This is?
07:14Three girls and a determinate number of ghosts.
07:20I'll practice.
07:21I'll practice for the weekend.
07:22I'll practice.
07:22Yeah.
07:22You'll do better in person.
07:24Okay.
07:24I'll see you on the other side.
07:26Bye.
07:28Well, howdy.
07:38Well, hello.
07:39Hi there, driver.
07:40You ready for your trip?
07:41I am.
07:42Are you going to load my bags and open my door for me?
07:44I'll be the perfect gentleman.
07:46Thank you for giving us a ride.
07:48Oh, you're welcome.
07:49Do I get to call shotgun since Whitney's next year?
07:50Yeah.
07:51Yeah.
07:51Goosey, come here.
07:56Goosey, goosey, goosey.
07:57Well, there she is.
07:58I know.
07:59Go, girl.
08:01You got something on your lip.
08:03I know.
08:03It's my matcha.
08:04I'm heading up to Salem for the weekend and I invited Jessica to come along because I know
08:09she can use a break from the gym and she's just as obsessed with Salem as I am.
08:13All righty.
08:14Are you guys ready?
08:15Yeah.
08:15Hell yeah.
08:16You know what?
08:17Yeah.
08:18Hell yeah.
08:19Tell me again what you guys are going up there for.
08:21To record a podcast.
08:23Oh.
08:24With Sabrina and Corinne.
08:25Mostly just I love Salem and can't wait to go back.
08:28How long have they been doing this podcast?
08:31Almost 10 years.
08:32Really?
08:33I did not know that.
08:34I think they started in 2017.
08:36That's wild.
08:37Good for them.
08:38Well, that's wonderful.
08:40I just love, I mean, I love finding new friends.
08:43I mean, I just think it's right exciting.
08:44I'm honestly really proud of you and how you just put yourself out there and you've met
08:49some incredible people.
08:50Maybe I need to be more open to new friends.
08:52Thank you, Jess.
08:53I mean, I haven't made new friends in so long.
08:55I kind of thought like at this point it was definitely not something that was going to happen.
08:58Whitney talks a lot about how her friend group in Greensboro is starting to disappear.
09:05And sometimes people do get stuck on this hamster wheel, like they're just doing the same thing
09:10over and over and over again.
09:11And I think it's great that Whitney has decided that she kind of wants to break that wheel.
09:15Honestly, I'm inspired by her courage to meet new people, have new experiences, and, you
09:21know, just find something that may be bigger and better.
09:24You got it?
09:25Yeah.
09:26Jess, can you give Whitney me a minute?
09:29Sure.
09:30Okay.
09:31I'll go get me a coffee.
09:32Oh, love you, Glenn.
09:33Bye-bye.
09:33I don't care how old you are.
09:36There is literally nothing more concerning than when your father says he wants a word with
09:41you.
09:41No.
09:41No seat.
09:42Oh, God.
09:45Like, what is this?
09:50Love all these houses.
09:52I looked up on the realtor website.
09:55For what?
09:56Apartments.
09:57So you really are considering moving?
09:58I was just looking.
09:59Whitney's sitting here trying to play me.
10:01There's nothing stopping her from packing up her bags and potentially moving to Salem.
10:06I'm not stupid and I know you.
10:07Have a seat.
10:23Oh, God.
10:24When Whitney called me and talked to me about the insemination process, I didn't react on
10:32the phone like she wanted me to.
10:33Uh, and so I got the sense that she's upset with me and this is not a position I enjoy
10:39being in.
10:40Well, I wanted to...
10:41Oh, God.
10:42...ask you how your, uh, pregnancy journey is going.
10:44Oh.
10:44Well, I didn't think you really wanted to know about it.
10:47Oh, I do.
10:50I'm excited for you.
10:53I don't know about that.
10:54Well, I mean, you know, it takes me a while to adjust to new things, so, uh, but...
11:00Because I would love if you took some of that Hunter and Karen energy, living in sin and
11:07everything else, and if I got some of that excitement, too, that would make me happy.
11:10Oh, well, I'm excited for you.
11:11I know how excited you will be if you get pregnant, so I'm hopeful you will and hopeful
11:18everything will turn out just like you want it to.
11:24I am.
11:25You know, I would rather that, uh, Whitney wasn't doing this alone, but, you know, we've
11:30been a close-knit family for, uh, a number of years, and so supporting each other is something
11:35that, uh, we, uh, take pride in, so we'll be there for Whitney regardless.
11:41Well, I mean, I could be pregnant right now.
11:43Oh.
11:43I have to test the day before we leave, so...
11:48Do you mean leave from Salem?
11:50Yeah.
11:51Well, what will your first contribution be?
11:55Um...
11:56To the nursery?
11:56Well, the crib will be the first contribution.
11:59I'll get it down, and I'm sure it's going to need a little refurbishing after it's been
12:02in the attic for 40 years.
12:05Yeah.
12:06I love you.
12:10I love you, too.
12:12Picture it.
12:12Won't it be exciting if we trade Todd for a baby?
12:17Well, they're kind of the same thing, aren't they?
12:22I've always been so close with my dad, and he generally has, like, approved of everything
12:27in my life, so if I feel like I don't have his approval, it really bothers me.
12:31And if I'm lucky enough to get pregnant, I'm going to need his support more than ever.
12:35Bye.
12:36Bye-bye.
12:37Bye-bye.
12:38Love you.
12:39I love you, too.
12:40You have a wonderful trip.
12:42Okay.
12:43Call me when you get there.
12:44I will.
12:45Oh, Lord.
12:46A little sunny in Salem today, isn't it?
12:48I can't believe we're back here already.
12:50I know.
12:51What's your name?
12:52Ann.
12:53Nice to meet you.
12:54I'm really taken with Salem.
12:57This is our second time.
12:58We were just here.
12:59I love how everyone just has skeletons in their yard here all year round.
13:03I know.
13:04Like, this is so my vibe.
13:05I'm so into it.
13:06I bet Corrine has a really cute house.
13:08Yeah, the studio's in the house, so...
13:09Okay.
13:10And she's got two extra bedrooms, so we don't go share bed or nothing.
13:11Mmm.
13:12I would have been fine either way.
13:13I know it.
13:14Not only am I super excited to record a podcast episode, but I'll be back on the show.
13:17I'm excited to see you, too.
13:18And I'll be back on the show.
13:19Oh, you guys.
13:20Oh, you guys.
13:21You got me.
13:22I love it.
13:23I love it.
13:24Yeah.
13:25You got me.
13:26I love it.
13:28I love it.
13:29I love it.
13:30Not only am I super excited to record a podcast episode
13:34with Corinne and Sabrina,
13:35but Corinne has actually invited Jessica and I
13:37just to stay with her at her home.
13:39And I just feel so grateful
13:42for the trajectory of this friendship.
13:44They literally already feel like my sisters.
13:47I sleep too hot.
13:48I don't think we could share bed.
13:49Well, you like to pet, so I like to be,
13:51I like being petted.
13:52No one ever pets me.
13:53Oh, I do, I love to pet.
13:55I'm always doing the petting.
13:56I like to be cuddled and then when I'm ready to sleep,
13:58then I need to just get off me.
14:00Like I like to cuddle on the couch
14:01while you're watching a movie, head in the lap.
14:03God, Isaiah and I haven't cuddled on a couch
14:05in probably six years or more.
14:08We've got a giant armrest in between us.
14:12I don't know exactly what is going on with Jessica,
14:14but it's really interesting to me
14:16that she always seems eager to leave Greensboro,
14:19even though she has a whole life in Greensboro with Isaiah.
14:24So I don't know what's going on with that.
14:26Something's happening here that I'm not aware of
14:29where I'm confusion about.
14:31Love all these houses.
14:32Yeah.
14:33So cute about it.
14:35So what do we have on the list?
14:36I mean, it's a quick weekend.
14:37We got to record the podcast.
14:39Do you want to do your shopping that you haven't done?
14:40Mm-hmm.
14:42Take a pregnancy test.
14:44And don't, don't, don't get how you might get,
14:46but guess what I've been doing?
14:48Mm-hmm.
14:49Well, I looked up on the realtor website.
14:53For what?
14:54Apartments, houses, just looking.
14:58Oh, great.
14:58Are you going to move here now?
14:59No.
15:01What are you looking for then?
15:02I was just looking.
15:03I was just like window shopping, how one does.
15:05Here we go.
15:06See, and I knew you were going to get that way.
15:09I'm not saying that it's a terrible idea.
15:11I'm just saying you just do this.
15:13You just all of a sudden out of nowhere.
15:14Well, I'm just going to up and move.
15:16So you think it's a good idea is what you're telling me?
15:18I mean, you just sprung this on me out of nowhere.
15:20Whitney's sitting here trying to play me
15:22because she's acting like she's just curious about real estate.
15:26And I have a feeling that if this pregnancy thing
15:29doesn't work out, there would be nothing stopping her
15:34from packing up her bags and potentially moving to Salem.
15:37I'm not saying it's a bad idea.
15:38I mean, here's my thing.
15:40There's really nothing tying you down anywhere.
15:43Well, I mean, I feel like that's if, you know,
15:46if I don't get pregnant.
15:48It wouldn't make sense, I feel like, to get up and move.
15:50Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
15:51There's a real estate now renting studios
15:53and one, two, three bedroom units.
15:56Ooh, would I get a studio or would I get,
15:58well, I'd have to have, okay, what am I talking about?
16:00I'm not.
16:01Exactly, exactly.
16:03See, I'm not stupid and I know you.
16:07I actually have to take a pregnancy test.
16:08Should we all just pee on a stick and see?
16:10Should we do pregnancy roulette?
16:12Oh my God, can we do pregnancy roulette?
16:14I love that.
16:15Pregnancy roulette is when a bunch of girls get together.
16:18They all take a pregnancy test to see if anyone is pregnant.
16:21Someone's gonna be pregnant.
16:22No, someone.
16:23And who's it gonna be?
16:39Good morning, babies.
16:40Good morning.
16:42We made you matcha.
16:43You did not.
16:44You made it as in ordered it important.
16:47Oh, do you want me?
16:48Well, thank you.
16:49I had a lovely night's sleep.
16:51Yeah.
16:51I just love a little New England house.
16:53Right?
16:54Just the vibes are right.
16:55Being in Salem with Corinne and Sabrina and being at Corinne's house,
16:59I just feel like I manifested this and my spirits are so just instantly lifted.
17:06And I think that's a sign.
17:08Just texted.
17:09She's already out shopping.
17:10I need to copy your nails, copy your jewelry.
17:12Girl, please.
17:13The rings are so cool.
17:13Y'all are too nice.
17:15I think this is exactly how I got Sabrina to move to New England.
17:17I just complimented her every day for like seven years until she eventually moved.
17:21Look, y'all won't have to convince me hard to move here.
17:24Lord knows I was on the rental websites already.
17:28What'd you find?
17:29I mean, I was window shopping.
17:31It doesn't hurt to go look.
17:33Well, okay, it's actually a short-term rental, but you can stay long-term.
17:40Oh my gosh.
17:41It's like a little condo, basically.
17:44I will take any and every opportunity to imagine my life in Salem.
17:48I have been looking at some apartment rentals on the beachfront because if I can't get pregnant,
17:55then for my own sanity, I feel like I also definitely have to have a backup plan.
17:59Like, that's crucial if this doesn't work.
18:01I've got to have somewhere to pivot.
18:05So much natural light.
18:06Oh my God.
18:07And the backyard.
18:08So pretty.
18:10As someone who just recently moved out here, I've found so much peace.
18:15And I do feel like Whitney's in a phase of her life where she's bored in Greensboro
18:20and she needs like a fresh start.
18:21She needs some change in her life.
18:24And perhaps this will be the place that will help her navigate this like new version
18:29of Whitney and what that looks like.
18:30I mean, if y'all want to go, if y'all want to go, we can just go look.
18:32Yeah.
18:33No plans.
18:34It doesn't hurt.
18:35Let's go look.
18:36Cheers.
18:37Cheers.
18:38Cheers.
18:39Puritan's really good at manifesting, so I feel like all we have to do is think it and
18:42it will happen.
18:45Shall we go to the studio?
18:46Yeah.
18:47Let us go.
18:48We're this way?
18:49I'm so excited.
18:50Yeah.
18:51The room where it happens.
18:52My God.
18:53Welcome.
18:54To our lair.
18:55I wish we had some spooky music, some like ominous.
18:57I can't believe I'm actually here.
19:00This is your seat.
19:03Yeah.
19:04Oh my God.
19:05Stop.
19:06I have been listening to Corinne and Sabrina do this podcast for years and it's just crazy
19:12to be here in the room with them and be on the podcast.
19:15It's just so fun.
19:17Are you talking to Whitney?
19:18Yes.
19:19Test.
19:20Okay.
19:21Perfect.
19:22This is three girls indeterminate number of ghosts.
19:24Three girls indeterminate number of ghosts.
19:28That was intimate.
19:29God, it felt good.
19:30And we are your ghostesses.
19:31That is Corinne.
19:32Hello.
19:33I am Sabrina and we are joined today by an extra special witchy sister, Whitney.
19:38Hi, I'm Whitney.
19:39Hello Whitney.
19:40I'm so excited to be here.
19:42We're so happy to have you here.
19:43I've never been happier actually.
19:45This is a real life fantasy come true.
19:49So this episode, you've teased us so much about your own paranormal experiences.
19:54So we got to start there.
19:55Sabrina, I'm going to be honest with you.
19:57I definitely over promised and I will now under deliver.
20:01Nobody get excited.
20:03However, when I was 10 years old, I did have a Michael Jackson hate.
20:07So I had this cassette tape and it was the Michael Jackson bad album.
20:12And I listened to it all day long, all the time.
20:16And I went to school one day.
20:17I've been listening to it.
20:18Came home.
20:19I played it.
20:20And all of a sudden there was like a crackle.
20:22And you hear this like breathy, scary voice.
20:26And she goes, this is Annie.
20:31Just like that.
20:32This is Annie?
20:33Sounded to me like this is Annie.
20:34It's two breaths.
20:35This is Annie.
20:36And then full volume comes back.
20:39Okay.
20:40Oh, no.
20:41Who's Annie?
20:42We don't, we'll never know.
20:44But Annie is clearly not okay.
20:46So many.
20:47Mm-hmm.
20:48Like what if Annie is your future child?
20:51Maybe.
20:52Who knows?
20:53Because with me, my motherhood journey is still so wide open.
20:57Like I went to the doctor and he artificially inseminated me.
21:00And I actually have to take a pregnancy test like tomorrow.
21:03That's the first day I can test.
21:05Should we all just pee on a stick and see?
21:07Should we do pregnancy roulette?
21:09Oh my God.
21:10Can we do pregnancy roulette?
21:11I love that.
21:12Wait, I always see videos of those.
21:13And I was like, God, I want to try that.
21:14That's what we're doing.
21:15I'm always so terrified.
21:16That's how I'm going to find out if I'm pregnant.
21:17We need three tests.
21:18Someone's going to be pregnant.
21:19No, someone.
21:20And who's it going to be?
21:21What if it's multiple?
21:23I hope not me.
21:24I'm so excited.
21:25Pregnancy roulette.
21:26I've seen it online.
21:28Basically, when a bunch of girls get together, they all take a pregnancy test, throw it in
21:32like a bowl anonymously, and then pull them out one by one to see if anyone is pregnant.
21:38So I'm really glad Corinne suggested this.
21:41It lightens the mood a little bit because I am so nervous about the outcome of this test.
21:47Corinne has a weird gift.
21:48Oh, what's that?
21:49I feel like every time you think someone...
21:51If I pull my finger and say something, it tends to happen, which is really creepy.
21:55Yeah, you've had it happen with pregnancies and stuff.
21:58Yeah, so I can't do it under pressure.
22:00I'm just going to do it at some random point during this episode.
22:02Okay.
22:03I'll just be ready.
22:04I mean, I'll stay ready.
22:05There have been a few moments in my life where I have pointed at someone and I've declared
22:10a statement about them, and that statement has become true.
22:14It has some good and bad.
22:15There was a death, but we don't need to talk about that.
22:18We need to talk about life.
22:20Can you point at me and say you're rich?
22:22Oh.
22:23If I could do that, I would have pointed at myself a million times and said it.
22:27You have had a lot of paranormal experiences.
22:30And then we did a really spooky thing with you.
22:33I know.
22:34In Salem when we were at the Henry Derby House.
22:37And specifically with the seance where your mom came through.
22:40Henchy, your cat, came through.
22:42We have also done a paranormal investigation there prior to this trip with you.
22:46And no cat, none of the things that we experienced in our investigation did we experience when
22:53we were there prior.
22:54See, I am really into a lot of spooky stuff.
22:58But I'll be honest, I guess I'm a skeptic because I've had tons of psychic readings,
23:03for example.
23:04One time I walked into a psychic and she just looked at me and said,
23:07tell me about Korea.
23:08It was the first thing she said to me.
23:10She had no way of knowing that I lived in Korea for five years.
23:14That's crazy specific.
23:15Yeah.
23:16Yeah.
23:17See, healthy skepticism is good though because you don't want to just believe everything.
23:22I don't know if any of this, like, I don't know if it works.
23:25I don't know what it means, whatever.
23:27But what's amazing is that it has helped me start to live intentionally.
23:31Yeah.
23:32Like, it's just helped me think about, like, goals and things that I want.
23:36You know, something I really appreciate about you too is not only that you're here in real life
23:39and I can touch you.
23:40Let me touch.
23:41What?
23:42But it's really wonderful.
23:44I feel like meeting you guys has rejuvenated me.
23:48It's made me more in touch with myself.
23:50It's made me more curious and more able to see the magic in the world.
23:55It's given me some excitement and some hope.
23:58Thinking, like, my future is not written yet.
24:01Will I move up here?
24:02I don't know.
24:03But you always have a place to stay at either of ours.
24:05Yeah.
24:06If you don't end up getting a condo.
24:09Sabrina's already decided I'm getting a condo.
24:12I made one comment that I looked at something on the internet and now I'm getting a condo.
24:17I don't know what my future will be, whether I'm going to be a mother or whether I'm going to pick up and try to, like, start a new life somewhere.
24:26But I'm trying really hard not to be afraid of the uncertainty and instead just kind of embrace all of the possibility.
24:34Thank you so much for being on our show.
24:36Thank you so much for having me.
24:37We love you, Whitney.
24:38We did the intro together.
24:39Oh my god, the outro.
24:40We can also do the outro.
24:41Okay.
24:42And we will see you on the other side.
24:49Three girls, indeterminate number of ghosts.
24:52It's indeterminate.
24:53And it could be happening at all different timelines.
24:55Yeah, so we're talking to everyone.
24:57Someone's already listening to this episode.
24:59It's already out.
25:00In another timeline, you're pregnant, just like you are going to be pregnant soon.
25:03She came!
25:06Let's see what happens.
25:07Wow.
25:12So cute.
25:14If I had to picture my New England cottage on the water, well, this would be it.
25:19What else would you even need?
25:22You're already acting like you're moving your entire life up here.
25:25Honestly, I'm kind of shocked she's not already unpacking her bags as we speak.
25:33Oh my god, how cute.
25:34Look how cute this is.
25:35Waterfront views.
25:36It looks better than the pictures.
25:38I want to stick my feet in the ocean.
25:39We are going to look at an apartment that I found in Salem.
25:41Oh my god, I love it.
25:42I'm just looking.
25:43I'm just browsing.
25:44Do I need help?
25:45No, thank you.
25:46Just browsing.
25:47Wait, is this a cat in a stroller?
25:48Where?
25:49Coming through on the sidewalk.
25:50That's the sign, Whitney.
25:51Oh my god.
25:52Oh my god.
25:53Oh my god.
25:54Oh my god.
25:55Can I look at him?
25:56Stop it.
25:57Hold my matcha.
25:58Oh stop.
25:59Hi, I'm Whitney by the way.
26:00Hi, nice to meet you.
26:01We are big cat lovers.
26:02What breed of cat is that?
26:03It's a bingo.
26:04I know it.
26:05What's your name?
26:06I'm a cat in Salem.
26:07Oh my god.
26:08I'm a cat in Salem.
26:09Oh my god.
26:10I love it.
26:11I'm just looking.
26:12I'm just browsing.
26:13Do I need help?
26:14No, thank you.
26:15Just browsing.
26:16Wait, is this a cat in a stroller?
26:17Where?
26:18Coming through on the sidewalk.
26:19That's the sign, Whitney.
26:20Oh my god.
26:21Oh my god.
26:22Oh my god.
26:23Oh my god.
26:24Oh my god.
26:25It's a bingo.
26:26I know it.
26:27What's your name?
26:28Can I pet her?
26:29Yeah.
26:30So cute.
26:31Oh my.
26:32So sweet.
26:33Oh my god.
26:34I got breath.
26:35I got breath.
26:36Hi, you're a beautiful baby.
26:39I know that we see what we want to see, but if you're going to look me in the face and
26:46tell me that the fact that the first thing I see out front of this apartment is a woman
26:51with a big fat Bengal twerty in a stroller, if you're going to tell me that that's just
26:56a coincidence, are you going to tell me that?
27:01I mean.
27:02That's serendipity right there.
27:03I knew that was coming.
27:04What on earth?
27:05That's amazing.
27:06Right?
27:07Look, that was all I needed.
27:10Now see, it's two units, but I only get one.
27:13Cute.
27:14Oh my gosh.
27:15So cute.
27:16When you're on vacation, you drive by houses, you wonder what your life would be like.
27:20Here we are.
27:21I think that that is just living in a fantasy world, but it's also totally normal.
27:25Let my fantasies live.
27:31So cute.
27:33Bright and light.
27:34Wow.
27:35I can't believe.
27:36I mean, such.
27:37Cute little galley kitchen.
27:38The natural light is amazing.
27:40Oh, Whitney.
27:41Oh my goodness.
27:42I can't even look at anything else because of the view.
27:43The view.
27:44Yeah.
27:45Just immediately.
27:46You said the furniture stays, right?
27:47Yeah, it's furnished.
27:48This looks like you.
27:49It really does.
27:50Think about the snow like on the water edge in the winter.
27:55I have never even thought about snow on the beach and I'm deceased.
28:00This apartment is gorgeous.
28:04The light and the locale of this place, the pictures, did not even halfway do it justice.
28:11Look at the tile.
28:12Oh my goodness.
28:13The bathroom.
28:14And it's big enough for all of us.
28:18Ladies.
28:19Ladies.
28:20We're going to have a shower party.
28:21And don't talk to me about the bathroom.
28:22Don't talk to me about the tile.
28:23It is the most gorgeous tile that I've ever seen and I don't know how I'm going to leave
28:24it.
28:25So there's not one thing that's not good about this place.
28:26No, not yet.
28:27Oh, I believe this would be my bedroom.
28:28Oh, look.
28:29And you have the deck.
28:30Imagine Goosey out here.
28:31Sun baby.
28:32Right.
28:33While I read a book.
28:34While I read an airport mystery novel.
28:35If I had to picture my New England cottage on the water.
28:36I think you need a fire pit.
28:37Well, this would be it.
28:38Oh, what is this?
28:39Adirondack?
28:40Yeah.
28:41This is very New England, isn't it?
28:42Oh, God.
28:43I just.
28:44I just went somewhere into the earth.
28:45Oh.
28:46Leanne even told me she saw me by the water in the summer.
29:04Yeah.
29:05And, the smell is very really rough.
29:06Right now.
29:07But, even though you haven't seen me here, you want to face.
29:11How M смотреть,islaine?
29:12water in the summer our first trip here mm-hmm you're already acting like you're
29:17moving your entire life up here I mean what else would you even need a roommate
29:25it's becoming very obvious that Whitney is in love with this place I'm kind of
29:33shocked she's not already unpacking her packs as we speak I mean who wouldn't
29:37want to run away to an oceanfront property and start over with their life
29:41it sounds incredible if you ask me I don't know I feel like of course I miss
29:45my friends but like generally it's like the only person I've limited time with
29:49is my dad yeah you know cuz he's 79 but see he would tell me to go do whatever I
29:54want to do yours you know if I were pregnant then that would throw a wrench
29:58if I'm not then who's gonna tell me yeah it's today the day you can test your
30:04first day you can test yeah but it's early but it's it's feasible I can
30:09definitely picture a life here but I'm just at such a crossroads because one
30:14direction is being pregnant being home in Greensboro the other direction is like
30:19wide open starting a whole new life and I don't really feel like I'm in control
30:23like I'm just waiting on the universe to tell me what my life is gonna be and
30:28what I'm gonna do y'all want to take a walk along down the yeah yeah the beach
30:35honestly I'd love to okay oh sister you are so in sync with me because I literally
30:41was just like oh yes we should hold on let's get over no when we get there
30:46not again right foot first yeah five six seven eight we have to do this one more
31:02time well the anticipation is killing me I know I know why am I so nervous like I'm
31:19saying well I know why you're nervous I don't want to be pregnant you should not be pregnant
31:26not one bit the only person who should be is Whitney yeah yeah yeah Lord Jesus so I've seen
31:34online a trend that is pregnancy roulette where a bunch of girlfriends will all pee on pregnancy
31:39tests there are four of us so we got four pregnancy tests put them in a cup and see if anyone's pregnant
31:46I hope I'm pregnant because I want all your baby stuff that you have in there oh Whitney's told
31:52a lot about her pregnancy journey and there's a lot of stress involved in trying to become pregnant
31:57so we just thought it would be like a fun way to alleviate some of that stress but you don't know
32:01who peed on what stick yeah so if one comes up positive it could be any of us hopefully not us
32:07but hopefully not the two of us hopefully either Jess or Whitney who knows that they're not pregnant
32:13does anyone know for sure that they're not pregnant and I hope I would be shocked because
32:17you're you're still post childbirth like can you even get pregnant right now I can but I think it
32:21be tough well because like my periods aren't regular yet which I guess it's like the mystery
32:25that that's how it happens for some how old is Noah right now he's 10 months oh I am totally down to
32:32play pregnancy roulette because I'm freaking out but this makes it like kind of fun and mysterious
32:38and maybe I won't even be the only person who's pregnant I'm on day 13 of my cycle which is exactly
32:45where you're probably ovulating so even if you were pregnant we wouldn't know yet I did have sex last
32:51thing well and you're nasty and you're nasty for that I'm nasty I'm actively on my period so I'm
32:57sure I'm not pregnant no there's still chance you could no it's it's it's rare but when your stuff
33:02is like when you have issues going on and like irregularities and things as do I have issues as
33:07you do no seriously my doctors always told me that like a cryptic pregnancy where people get their
33:12periods where like they think they have their periods those like and they don't show at all
33:16hiding behind them muscles that would be very different from my previous pregnancies which were
33:20incredibly and immediately obvious so I don't know it's been two and a half years for me and
33:27I haven't had this conversation with my husband but I'm just exhausted the miscarriages the surgeries the
33:34testing every month it really is exhausting and I just don't know how much more I can take of it
33:40and so much stress on your body too and I'm really surprised that I've made my peace with that
33:45because usually like the not knowing and not having like control it like drives me crazy but
33:51yeah I don't know I know that Jessica has been on the fence about doing IVF but this is the first
34:00time I've heard her say that like maybe she's done done and I have no idea how Isaiah would feel about
34:06that honestly I don't really blame her because if I'm not pregnant soon I don't think I even have
34:13it in me to try for as long and as hard as she has okay well what happens if you are pregnant
34:21Whitney would you still move here no you have your aunties no I presume that I yeah no I don't know
34:29I would feel some kind of way if you had a baby and just dipped out before I got to hang out with
34:34the baby I feel like being pregnant I don't want to be at home yeah waddling around over there yeah
34:39yeah yeah you know I wouldn't have it I like can't think about anything else
34:45the time is up five minutes oh my god and the best mom ever cup I think we each pick one and go
34:54around and say what it says yeah pick a test any test I'm just going for it all right well I guess I
35:01don't have a choice okay all right Karen I look first yeah it says not pregnant
35:13it doesn't necessarily mean anything the first test is negative and that could be anyone's test it could
35:24be my test I feel like this actually was probably not not the best idea okay someone's not pregnant
35:32not pregnant two people are not pregnant all right go ahead
35:42not pregnant three of us are not pregnant how are you feeling right now I am terrified like I have been
35:55thinking about having a baby imagining a family like literally my whole life and to know that I'm gonna
36:02find out if that's gonna happen or it's not gonna happen right now it's a really scary feeling
36:09feeling okay what what wait what oh my god I cannot believe this
36:21what is it saying what is it yeah my heart is it pounding
36:42it's actually nothing wait what do you mean there's nothing oh it didn't work it's inconclusive
36:51oh what what is that it's not on there is it let me see wait what does yours look like oh no
36:57that's not no it said yeah no it says pregnant or not pregnant wait why doesn't mine say anything
37:01yeah look up the directions yeah it basically said like you need to perform a new test carefully
37:06follow the instructions do we have any more there's one more well you should who's good yeah why don't
37:12you take it I should take it because I don't I just I mean I'm just gonna pretend this is mine I'm not
37:15pregnant you're the one we want to be pregnant that's true go take it all right let me go I'll
37:20go do another one okay I'll be back oh thank God I still have to pee honestly I am regretting playing
37:28this game this is why you don't let the youth talk you into things I feel like I should have just
37:35taken my own test in the first place I do not have the emotional capacity for pregnancy roulette
37:42right now this one's not digital but maybe this one will be better wait where's the control line
37:52nervous that okay there's the control wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute what does that mean
37:56that's a line I like that it's working that's the control line yeah oh so if you are pregnant
38:02there'll be another line on the baby okay wait and I don't have the instructions for this one
38:05I think we just trust me I've taken a million of these I think we just stare at it
38:09okay when do we quit staring Whitney really needs to relax hovering over this pregnancy test is not going
38:23to change the results it's not going to make them come any faster it's like damn she's making me
38:28nervous I'm like manifesting the pregnancy into the stick should we cuddle coven yeah that's water on
38:37my hands by the way not pee okay just put your energy into it intellectually I know right now either I'm
38:47pregnant or I'm not I did everything right I inseminated at the doctor at the exact right time
38:53but it's not stopping me from wanting my cuddle coven to channel all of our energy into this little
38:59test and just magically make two lines appear okay it's been five minutes
39:06it's not there I don't think so
39:14I don't know you guys can look at it too
39:19yeah I mean there's nothing there's nothing no not pregnant that's what it says
39:29I shouldn't be surprised you know every doctor I've ever been to in my entire life has told me
39:43it may very well be impossible for me to conceive a child
39:47and I guess I was just silly enough to think that like if I actually wanted it
39:52and if I tried and I intended for it to happen that it would
39:56I'm sorry Whitney
39:59are you okay
40:01do you have to go back and do the procedure again like what happens next
40:07I mean I have the one more vial but I hate this
40:12yeah this is not the fun part
40:16I know exactly how she's feeling right now I've received hundreds of negative pregnancy tests and
40:25it hits just as hard every time
40:27you also don't need to decide now
40:30that's true
40:31well but I kind of do
40:33you don't
40:33yeah but like I had a lease presented to me
40:36I mean what's to stop you from trying one more time even if you say yes to the apartment
40:40well because I'll be here and I don't want to you know like I need to do one thing or the other thing
40:44that's I'm and I want to do the thing that doesn't make me feel like
40:48well you know what I mean
40:50yeah unfortunately yes I do know what you mean
40:53but it's a lot to go through consistently at this rollercoaster
40:57and I do think that so many people who do try to get pregnant like this is why people take breaks
41:02you know
41:02yeah
41:02this is like the part of womanhood that you don't hear about when you're younger
41:07yeah
41:08right now
41:08yeah
41:09you know at this point I just feel like I'm fighting against something
41:14that isn't meant to be and I'm just like running into a wall
41:20new life comes in like many different forms
41:24it does yeah
41:25it does
41:25I'm sorry
41:27it just feels like a life in Greensboro with a baby and all that just isn't
41:43um
41:44just it's just not for me I guess
41:49what is that
41:58got it ready for the new coming baby
42:01next time on my big fat fabulous life
42:03I'm left to believe that you've lost your mind
42:06that's a hell of a thing for a therapist to say
42:08I think on both sides like let's not personally attack
42:11it's obvious that a resolution is not going to be reached here between Tal and Buddy
42:15God bless you
42:16off for the rest of my life
42:18I signed a lease in Salem and I'm moving
42:22what
42:22you that Sabrina and Corinne and you were like these are way better than my current friends
42:27this is a pattern for Whitney
42:29she gets dissatisfied with her life and she runs away from home
42:33don't talk to me
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