Alien Abduction, The Conspiracy Show, Ep.216

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The Conspiracy Show with Richard Syrett Season 2 Episode 16 Alien Abduction
According to a poll conducted by The Roper Organization in 1992, 3.7 million Americans could have been alien abductees. Richard interviews two supposed alien abductees about their claims they were on an alien space craft. He'll also speak with a top abduction researcher who has worked with over a hundred of abductees. However, a skeptic gives a greedier explanation for the abduction phenomenon.
Broadcast personality Richard Syrett creates a calm, rational platform on which stars from the worlds of conspiracy thought, the paranormal, alternate health can engage in high quality discourse in these subject arenas.
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00:00Welcome to The Conspiracy Show.

00:10My name is Richard Serrett.

00:11People from around the world, all races, creeds, religions,

00:14from across all socioeconomic backgrounds,

00:17are reporting being taken aboard some sort of spacecraft against their will.

00:21They're unable to move or speak or resist.

00:24In some cases, they report being subjected to horrific experimentation

00:29by strange-looking beings with long limbs, black, almond-shaped eyes.

00:34These creatures seem indifferent to their suffering of their captives.

00:37Victims then report returning to the location from which they were taken

00:41and left emotionally shaken,

00:43sometimes permanently scarred physically and psychologically.

00:47Sometimes they have no recollection of the traumatic event

00:50and only discover years later, under hypnosis, what happened.

00:54On this episode of The Conspiracy Show,

00:56we investigate the alien abduction phenomenon.

01:00We're about to meet the man at the center

01:02of one of the most famous abduction cases in history.

01:05His story would be turned into a Hollywood motion picture.

01:09We'll also meet another alleged victim of abduction

01:11who claims multiple abductions when he was a child.

01:14And we'll meet an abduction researcher

01:16who has worked with thousands of alleged abductees under hypnosis.

01:21Of course, we'll also speak to a skeptic

01:23who believes the phenomenon has a perfectly rational scientific explanation.

01:28Me?

01:28Well, I just want the truth.

01:30And I'm willing to follow it wherever it may lead.

01:33It is time to redefine reality.

01:36Genetic enigma or a human alien?

01:39I believe that's how cynical I am there.

01:42This is streaming technology in the town.

01:44Alter weather patterns.

01:45Created by the form of the strain.

01:47Has been engineered by the Illuminati.

01:51There's no doubt.

01:52I'm here in Arizona with Travis Walton,

01:54who is at the center of what is considered to be

01:57one of the most credible alien abduction cases.

02:00He is the author of Fire in the Sky, The Walton Experience.

02:04Travis, welcome to The Conspiracy Show.

02:06Good to be with you.

02:12Take us back to November 5, 1975.

02:16What were you doing at that time, and what happened on that day?

02:20Well, I was working in the woods with a crew of six other men.

02:23We just finished a hard day's work, and it was starting to get dark.

02:27And we loaded up our equipment and headed out.

02:30And we hadn't gone very far when we noticed a strange light coming through the trees.

02:34And when we finally got where we could see the source of the light,

02:40we saw this metallic disc hovering there, outlined against the sky.

02:45It was just unmistakable.

02:47It was less than 100 feet away.

02:48And I got out and went up to get a closer look.

02:53What compelled you, Travis, to get out of the truck and actually approach this strange light?

02:58Well, some of the other crew guys still think that it looked to them like I was in some kind of a trance,

03:04like I was being drawn towards it.

03:06But I didn't feel like I was under any outside control at all.

03:10To me, I was just curious to see it up close.

03:13It was really awesome to behold.

03:17It was glowing.

03:20The whole area was lit up with a very strange sort of a light that changed the color of everything.

03:27And the object itself was, part of it was metallic and part of it was glowing.

03:32But the whole thing was one smooth surface, like it was made out of glass or something.

03:38The closer I got, the scarier I got.

03:39And they were getting pretty anxious.

03:41And they were, you know, yelling at me to get away from there.

03:44And when I got right up to it and was looking up at it, it suddenly got louder and started to move.

03:51And as soon as I raised up, I just felt this electric shock go through my body,

03:56like I'd been hit and didn't see it coming.

03:59And the next thing I knew, I was waking up.

04:03And at first I thought I was in a hospital.

04:05But when I finally got where I could focus my eyes, I saw that these weren't medical personnel around me.

04:12And there was these creatures standing over me.

04:15And I just flipped out.

04:17I just really became sort of crazy with fear.

04:23And I was thinking of fighting my way past them and getting out of there.

04:28But they suddenly left the room.

04:30And so I went looking for a way out.

04:33It is somewhere between 12 and 15 million potential abductees.

04:38It's absolutely crazy.

04:42I'm here near Philadelphia, Pennsylvania with Dr. David Jacobs, alien abduction researcher.

04:48David, welcome to The Conspiracy Show.

04:50Thank you, Richard, for having me.

04:56Have you been able to put together, say, a list of commonalities that sort of underlie all of these abduction cases?

05:05Most abductions have certain commonalities.

05:08If there were no commonalities, I would not be an abduction researcher.

05:12People say that they're taken out of their normal environment, which might be their bed, which might be their car, which might be their kitchen or their living room or whatever it is.

05:20But it won't be their workplace, usually.

05:22And they're usually abducted when they're going to be missed the least.

05:27And that's usually when they're alone.

05:29They're brought on board a UFO.

05:31Either they're floated up, usually, into this object.

05:34They are passive.

05:35Their jaws are slack.

05:36Their eyes are glassy.

05:38They can't run.

05:39They can't swing and hit somebody or anything like that.

05:42They can't resist.

05:42It is somewhere between 12 and 15 million potential abductees.

05:47It's absolutely crazy.

05:48Well, in the Walton case, if it looks like a hoax, has the characteristics of a hoax, and is crying out, hoax, hoax, maybe it's a hoax.

06:04Walton is seeing the classic type of UFO that's evolved, that's sort of saucer-shaped.

06:09And besides, there's, I think it was a $5,000 offer from National Enquirer for the best UFO tale or something.

06:18And so, hey, this could have sounded very good to some good old boys.

06:23What do you make of the Travis Walton abduction case?

06:25Well, I think that the Travis Walton abduction case is a very, very good case.

06:30Travis Walton is a very intelligent, very thoughtful, very well-spoken person.

06:34I like that case.

06:36In the beginning, I thought it was a hoax, but not now.

06:39So, November 10th, 1975, you suddenly reappear. Take me back to that day.

06:44Well, I looked around, and I found myself, you know, standing in the middle of the dark, but I could see the lights of Heber down below.

06:56That's the town nearest where this happened.

06:57So I ran down in there, found a phone booth, and called my brother-in-law, but he thought it was another practical joke, you know, a prank call.

07:06Apparently, the family had been receiving a lot of them.

07:08And in the first few minutes of conversation, it came out that they, you know, I was thinking that it was still the same night.

07:19I didn't know that five days had gone by.

07:21And my brother said, feel your face.

07:25And I had this five-day growth of beard, and I looked at my watch, and the date had changed.

07:29And so that was quite a shock.

07:31All the evidence, if you look at the pieces of the evidence, nothing about what he says or what he did really is very convincing.

07:40First of all, he had told his mother, if you ever hear of me being abducted by aliens, don't worry about it.

07:46He was missing for about five days, and the local police thought it was a hoax, and they thought his mother knew something about it because she was not that upset when she heard that Travis had been abducted by aliens.

08:01The law enforcement authorities immediately suspected that the rest of the Woods crew were making up a cover story, that they'd probably murdered me and hidden the body and were trying to explain why nobody was going to see me again.

08:17The men volunteered to take a light detector test, and the sheriff set up a polygraph.

08:22When the men passed, they had to come up with another theory.

08:25We were told there were a couple of polygraph exams that Walton had passed, but then we find out later that there had been an earlier one we hadn't heard about, and he failed that one so badly that the polygraph examiner said he was even, not only failed the test, he was practicing deceptive tactics, like trying to hold or alter his breathing.

08:45It was just one thing after another, trying to explain it away, trying to say that it was alcohol or drug hallucination or transitory psychosis, but, you know, there's been a lot of medical testing that disproves that there was any drugs involved.

09:02I took psychological exams that proved there was no mental abnormalities at all.

09:09People just didn't want to accept it, and anybody that, from a skeptical point of view, that had some theory, however unsupported, kind of got some attention in the media back then.

09:24I believe Walton was tested for about the fourth time, something like that, in 2009, and failed again for a TV show.

09:31Well, I mean, I don't want to make too much of that, but for those who say, oh, you know, he passed the polygraph, I'm saying, well, not all the time.

09:42There was a lie detector test given to him very early on through the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization that he did not do well on.

09:49Then he used, I don't know how many lie detector tests he's taken since then that he's passed.

09:53The point is that there were like five other witnesses, I guess, and they all saw a UFO strike him with a light.

09:59They all passed lie detector tests.

10:01There was one guy who was brand new who didn't really know them all that much, and the other ones, they had squabbles between each other, but they all maintained the truthfulness of what they had seen.

10:16I remember being in the arms of a tall, white, gray-type creature.

10:21The head was very large.

10:22The eyes were very large with black eyes, and I could only move my eyes, and I could not scream.

10:29I could not scream.

10:31Paul Shishis is an alien abductee.

10:35Paul, welcome to the Conspiracy Show.

10:36Thank you for having me here today, Richard.

10:43When did it all start?

10:45Oh, well, I had childhood nightmares at age four to six, which I believe were dreams.

10:54I found out at age 44, from a newspaper article, confirmed there were UFOs over Scarborough at that time.

11:01It sort of connected me to why I was seeing all these UFOs throughout my life.

11:06It begins in infancy, and we know that because parents are abducted with their babies sometimes.

11:12And it continues into old age, and it happens with great frequency.

11:17How often did this happen to you?

11:20They seem to happen almost to me as a child, almost nightly.

11:25And they search all their lives for a whole series of events that they might have strange reactions to over the course of time since they were children.

11:34Tell me about these encounters, these contacts that you thought were dreams.

11:39What did you see?

11:40I remember being in the arms of a tall, white, gray-type creature.

11:45The head was very large.

11:47The eyes were very large with black eyes.

11:50And I could only move my eyes, and I could not scream.

11:52You get this sense of being paralyzed.

11:56It's actually called sleep paralysis because the body is still asleep.

12:00It's out of sync, and yet you're in this dreamlike state.

12:06And we can trace this phenomenon back to the Middle Ages when people believed in demons,

12:10and they woke to see an incubus or a succubus pressing down on their body, holding them down, hence the paralysis.

12:17They're hallucinating an explanation for what's happening to their body.

12:21What would you say to a skeptic who might suggest that what you were experiencing as a child was a phenomenon known as sleep paralysis?

12:28Well, does sleep paralysis generate sound?

12:35Because I do remember hearing sound of my parents snoring.

12:39The light I described earlier, I do remember hearing a sound when it was moving closer to me.

12:46So there was sound associated.

12:48And, of course, you know, how will you ever prove that this really happened because of so many years?

12:54And, as I say, to actually find out that Scarborough had sightings back in 1965 that I discovered from the Star Archives,

13:03a Toronto newspaper, that this confirmed to me there was, in fact, something going on.

13:08So, in memory of my class in grade one, certain kids, my friends, had bleeding noses a lot.

13:16So there may have been a program going on in my neighborhood, period.

13:20Other abductions of other children?

13:21Yes.

13:22These are sane and normal people.

13:24This is not a mental disorder.

13:25They're not psychotic.

13:26They're sane and normal.

13:27But they're different.

13:30They're within, they're over at one end of the spectrum of highly imaginative, quite able to imagine things.

13:37And they often have very vivid dreams.

13:41They're easily hypnotized.

13:43This is a very important point, even self-hypnotizable.

13:47A person who knows what they're doing using hypnosis can put into place a series of protocols

13:53which will prevent having everything taken at face value, whether it's remembered consciously or not.

14:01The main thing that was accomplished by the hypnosis was to calm me down and separate the fear from the memories.

14:14In 1986, I began to do my own hypnotic regressions.

14:18Hypnosis is just relaxation and focusing in.

14:22And the first thing you do, of course, is if you've never heard testimony before,

14:27if something sounds like just very, very strange, you put it on the back burner.

14:32You wait for other people to say the same thing.

14:35And the more people you have saying the same thing, the stronger the evidence becomes.

14:40Most of the cases are not hoaxes.

14:42There are exceptions, of course.

14:43Most of the people appear to be what are called fantasy-prone individuals.

14:50Now, to go through the looking glass and take up the position with Travis Walton,

14:57we have lots of evidence, but none of it's very good.

15:02It's all anecdotes and dreams and psychological states and the Travis Walton case,

15:08which is, I think, too good to be true.

15:10So you have to buy into that.

15:13Then you have to believe that the aliens had some reason to pick out Travis

15:18and to keep him for some time and that the aliens look just like we've imagined them to look

15:24and their craft look just like we've imagined them to look.

15:28These all can be shown to be sort of evolved things that show up now in our comic books.

15:34So any way we look at it, the Travis Walton case, I think, cannot be distinguished from a hoax.

15:44In interview after interview, they leave out the fact that there was these other types of beings in there.

15:49What do you think they want, whoever they are?

15:57I believe they're interested in certain genetic genes that we carry.

16:03I believe that we could be, all of us, the human race right now, could be under one big hybrid program.

16:12In my analysis today of what I've researched, this seems to, might be the case of changing the species

16:21as maybe what had happened with Neanderthals.

16:23You know, I've done so many interviews about this, and it's kind of curious that in interview after interview,

16:30they leave out the fact that there was these other types of beings in there.

16:34I took them to be human rescuers at first.

16:38I hope it's positive. I hope it's wonderful.

16:40I hope they're here to cure cancer and stop war.

16:42I hope they're here to bring us into the community of planets, and I want to be an ambassador and all that sort of stuff.

16:48I hope that's true. That would be wonderful.

16:51That's not what people tell me.

16:53Years ago, I began to hear accounts that were of people being taken into rooms and looking at items on a screen.

17:02Normal scenes of everyday human life.

17:05They're standing there with an alien or a hybrid, and they hear in their minds,

17:10because all communication is telepathic on board these objects,

17:14can you tell the difference between you and us?

17:18What do you mean, difference? Everybody looks the same to me.

17:23They'll hear, isn't that wonderful? Isn't that great?

17:26Soon we will all be happy. Soon everybody will know his place.

17:30Now, the first time I heard that, you just dismiss it.

17:33Maybe it's confabulation, whatever it is.

17:36But then I began to hear it again and again and again and again.

17:40People would say, aliens say to them, soon we'll all be together.

17:43People would see these images of different things, so they were supposed to pick out the hybrids, basically, from the humans.

17:49And I began to realize, as this evidence began to pile up, that soon we would all be together, just like they were saying.

17:56Look at the whole setting of it.

17:57I mean, let's just look at the Walton case, just step back a little bit from belief or disbelief, and just objectively look at it.

18:04What do we have?

18:05We have Travis Walton, who has record for having burgled and forged stolen checks.

18:13And so we have a guy who, I'm not saying he's all bad or he can't tell the truth, but that's what we're starting with.

18:22And he shows up with this case, this alien encounter, just two weeks after the made-for-TV movie featuring the Betty and Barney Hill case in 1975, with James Earl Jones and Estella Parsons.

18:39The Travis Walton case became the subject of the 1993 film Fire in the Sky.

18:45It is often described by researchers as the best documented case of alien abduction ever recorded.

18:51But in the absence of any concrete evidence and contradictory lie detector test results, I remain unconvinced the Walton case was a genuine alien abduction.

19:02Our other alleged abductee seems very sincere.

19:05But again, a total absence of concrete evidence makes it most impossible to evaluate this case.

19:12However, I don't believe that every case can be explained away as a hoax, the overactive imagination of fantasy-prone individuals, or a condition known as sleep paralysis.

19:23In 1991, David Jacobs, along with the late Bud Hopkins, and sociologist Dr. Ron Westrom, commissioned a Roper poll in order to determine how many Americans might have experienced the abduction phenomenon.

19:36Of nearly 6,000 Americans polled, 119 answered in a way that Hopkins, Jacobs, and Westrom interpreted as supporting their ET interpretation of the abduction phenomenon.

19:47Based on this figure, they estimated that nearly 4 million Americans may have been abducted by extraterrestrials.

19:54If we were to extrapolate that data, the worldwide figure would be nearly 100 million possible alien abductees.

20:02Let's suppose that only one-tenth of 1% of those respondents actually experienced something that could be not otherwise explained away as fantasy, or some underlying psychological or neurological condition.

20:14That would be 10,000 cases in America alone.

20:17Something is going on.

20:19The answer could be extraterrestrial.

20:21It could be demonic.

20:22It could be some sort of psychological warfare experiment where victims are drugged or hypnotized and implanted with false memories.

20:31Regardless, something real is behind the alien abduction phenomenon, and I pray it doesn't happen to you.

20:39And now, I'd like to know what you think.

20:41You can contact me here at The Conspiracy Show through our website, www.theconspiracyshow.com.

20:48In the meantime, don't be afraid.

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