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The Conspiracy Show with Richard Syrett Season 1 Episode 11 The Rendelsham Forest UFO Incident
Richard travels to southeast England to investigate a witness to what is described as the best documented sighting of a UFO landing. Richard also goes to Arizona to meet with a witness who shows the contents of his secret journal. Finally, Richard travels to a secret location in the Arizona desert to meet with a former USAF pilot and astronomer who dismisses the entire case as a misidentification.
Broadcast personality Richard Syrett creates a calm, rational platform on which stars from the worlds of conspiracy thought, the paranormal, alternate health can engage in high quality discourse in these subject arenas.
Director: Jalal Merhi
Star: Richard Syrett
The Conspiracy Show with Richard Syrett Season 1 Episode 11 The Rendelsham Forest UFO Incident
Richard travels to southeast England to investigate a witness to what is described as the best documented sighting of a UFO landing. Richard also goes to Arizona to meet with a witness who shows the contents of his secret journal. Finally, Richard travels to a secret location in the Arizona desert to meet with a former USAF pilot and astronomer who dismisses the entire case as a misidentification.
Broadcast personality Richard Syrett creates a calm, rational platform on which stars from the worlds of conspiracy thought, the paranormal, alternate health can engage in high quality discourse in these subject arenas.
Director: Jalal Merhi
Star: Richard Syrett
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00:00Welcome to the Conspiracy Show.
00:10My name is Richard Serrett.
00:12Did a vessel of extraterrestrial origin
00:15touch down near a U.S. Air Force base in England
00:19over Christmas in 1980?
00:21Tonight, we'll meet several of those witnesses,
00:24including one who claims to have walked up
00:26to the landed craft and touched it.
00:28We'll also meet a UFO investigator
00:30who insists the evidence proves
00:33that a vessel of extraterrestrial origin
00:35touched down in Rendlesham Forest in 1980.
00:39We'll also meet a skeptic who insists
00:41there are numerous plausible explanations for this event,
00:44none of them which include a flying saucer
00:46piloted by an alien.
00:47Our mission is to investigate these claims
00:50and follow the truth wherever it may lead.
00:52It is time to redefine reality.
00:55Genetic enigma or a human-alien idea?
00:58I'm here in Phoenix with Jim Penniston,
01:14U.S. Air Force retired staff sergeant
01:17at this Royal Air Force base in Bentwaters
01:19during the 1980 Rendlesham incident.
01:23Jim, welcome to The Conspiracy Show.
01:25Thanks for your time.
01:26Well, thanks for inviting me.
01:27I appreciate it.
01:33I want you to give me a quick thumbnail sketch
01:37or a timeline of what you saw,
01:40the date, where you were,
01:42and what your observations were.
01:44Yeah, I was working the midnight shift
01:46on the 25th of December, 1980.
01:49I was in charge of security
01:50for RAF Woodbridge, England.
01:52And around 1.30, 2 o'clock in the morning,
01:55I was called to go to the East Gate.
01:58I arrived there,
01:59and Sergeant Steffens briefed me
02:01that they had something going on in the woods.
02:04I looked out there.
02:05It appeared to be a dome of light.
02:07It looked like a fire.
02:09I said, what, did you hear a crash?
02:10And he says, no, Jim, it didn't crash.
02:13I said, what, did it land?
02:14And he goes, yeah, something like that.
02:17I went back to the gate shack.
02:18I called into my control centers.
02:20They're checking to see the radar
02:22to see if there was a tracking
02:24or anything like that.
02:25In a couple minutes,
02:26they come back online,
02:27and they say we had an unidentified bogey
02:30about 15 minutes ago,
02:31lost contact over RAF Woodbridge.
02:34We deployed quickly off base.
02:36It was only like 300 yards.
02:38And there was like a bright white light.
02:43A triangular craft appeared in front of us.
02:46It measured approximately 9 feet long,
02:48triangular in shape,
02:49black glass-looking, metal feel,
02:51but very, very smooth.
02:53When I came around to the far side,
02:55I see there was some type of pictorial glyphs on it.
03:00And I was actually hoping that it would say
03:03the United States Air Force or NASA
03:05or something like that.
03:08It's a rainy, cold day
03:10here in Rendlesham Forest.
03:12We're just outside the old
03:13Woodbridge Air Force Base,
03:15and I'm here to meet Larry Warren,
03:17the original whistleblower
03:19of the Rendlesham Forest UFO incident.
03:21He's here to relive those strange events
03:23that happened over 30 years ago.
03:25I saw what I saw.
03:27I never saw anything in the air
03:28except the light come in
03:29and then an object.
03:31Something happened,
03:32and there was a structured object
03:33on the ground.
03:34And we drove down here
03:41and turned left,
03:42stopped,
03:43and then moved on foot
03:44through much like this.
03:47And there was no snow on the ground.
03:49And I mean,
03:49the forest was this
03:50all the way through.
03:52This is what you're going through
03:53in pitch black night,
03:54flashlights,
03:56radios going.
03:57And I still stand by,
03:59and I'm not alone in it.
04:00There was something alive
04:02in association with it.
04:04It was just there.
04:07When you say it was there,
04:08you mean you felt a presence?
04:09No, I saw it.
04:10I saw it.
04:11Definitely three things.
04:13Inside the crowd?
04:14Outside.
04:17Lieutenant Bonnie Tamplin
04:18kind of lost it a bit
04:20and wouldn't come back out here.
04:25I'm here with Peter Robbins,
04:26co-author of Left at Eastgate,
04:28a first-hand account
04:29of the Rendlesham Forest UFO incident.
04:31Peter, thanks for joining me.
04:33My pleasure, Richard.
04:41Larry's story is
04:42truly remarkable,
04:44some might say,
04:45out of this world,
04:45as is all the witnesses' stories are.
04:48Why did you believe him?
04:49Good question.
04:52I have to be a skeptic
04:54because I know this is real
04:55beyond a reasonable doubt
04:57from the work I've done.
04:59Whatever happened to him
05:00in that field
05:01and happened to him after
05:03with more terrestrial sources
05:06controlled and ran his life.
05:09So, what do you think
05:11they saw out there?
05:13I think they saw
05:14technology and a presence
05:16from parts unknown.
05:19These men's lives
05:20were changed forever.
05:22I'm sure some of them,
05:24most of them,
05:24would have rather just done
05:25what the service wanted them to do,
05:27which is forget about it.
05:29I'm here in southern Arizona
05:35at the Grasslands Observatory
05:37with James McGaha,
05:38retired U.S. Air Force pilot,
05:41astronomer, and skeptic.
05:42James, welcome to the Conspiracy Show.
05:44Welcome.
05:45Glad to be here.
05:45I want to talk to you
05:53about the Rendlesham Forest
05:54UFO incident.
05:56Basically, what happened
05:57was some lights were seen
05:59and the first night,
06:02the lights caused the airmen
06:03to want to go off base
06:05and investigate the lights.
06:07And they took some equipment,
06:09they took a radiac meter
06:10and a starlight scope
06:12and some other things.
06:14Colonel Halt did a tape recording,
06:16a handheld cassette tape recording
06:18that night of what he was seeing,
06:20which I have a copy of,
06:22and it's very interesting
06:23to listen to the tape.
06:24This is 148.
06:25We're hearing very strange sounds
06:27out of the farmers,
06:28barnyard animals.
06:29It's very, very active,
06:31making a lot of noise.
06:35Okay, stop, stop.
06:38Hey, this is Eerie.
06:39This is strange.
06:44And I can hear all the transmissions
06:46in real time
06:48that you hear on the Halt audio tape.
06:51See it?
06:52Okay, fine.
06:54Is there a spot?
06:55It really isn't centered.
06:56It's slightly off-centered.
06:57It's right there.
06:59There it is, right there.
07:01Are you focused?
07:03Okay.
07:03Okay.
07:05Look at that spot number one
07:07to the starlight scope.
07:10The starlight scope
07:11is an image intensifier
07:12for low light.
07:14It intensifies low light.
07:15It does not detect energy.
07:17It does not detect infrared.
07:19All it does is intensify light.
07:21Then he looks at the Orford Lighthouse,
07:24which he doesn't realize
07:25is the Orford Lighthouse.
07:26We are getting an indication
07:27of a heat source
07:28coming out of that center spot.
07:30You just saw a light out there.
07:32I know it's left.
07:33Where?
07:34Right at this position here.
07:36Straight ahead
07:37in between.
07:38There it is again.
07:39Here's some form of energy.
07:40It's hardly heat
07:41at this stage of the game.
07:43It is directly overhead.
07:48Watch.
07:48Straight ahead
07:49off my flashlight right there, sir.
07:50There it is.
07:51I see it, too.
07:52What is it?
07:53We don't know, sir.
07:54I'll show you.
07:54Can I use a word?
07:55Yeah, it's a strange,
07:57small, red light.
07:58You'll see that
07:59maybe a quarter to half
08:00or maybe further out.
08:02I'll switch off.
08:04The light is gone now.
08:05Is it back again?
08:06Yes, sir.
08:07And so it gives all this
08:09weird, bizarre looking,
08:10because he's looking
08:11at this incredibly bright object.
08:13People have argued
08:13he didn't see the lighthouse,
08:15but he's looking straight at,
08:18he says what,
08:19he's looking at an angle
08:21of 110 degrees.
08:22About 110 degrees,
08:23getting a reading
08:24of about four clicks.
08:25Yes, sir.
08:26Yeah, but...
08:27Excuse me.
08:28No, it's dying.
08:29No, it's dying.
08:30I think it's something
08:30other than the ground.
08:31I think it's something
08:31that's something very important.
08:33It's like a tree, right?
08:34We have flown to the first
08:35light bulb we've seen.
08:36We're about 150 or 200 yards
08:38from the site.
08:39Everything else is just
08:40deathly calm.
08:41There is no doubt about it
08:43there's some type of strange
08:44flashing red light ahead.
08:45There's yellow.
08:46I saw y'all attention at 2.
08:48Weird.
08:49He has a period
08:50of about five seconds
08:52and of course
08:52the Orford Lighthouse
08:53has a period of five seconds
08:55and it's at 110 degrees
08:57from where he was.
08:58So either he was looking
09:00at the lighthouse
09:00or he was looking at a UFO
09:03with a flashing light
09:04with five seconds
09:05and was hovering
09:05directly above the lighthouse.
09:08What other possible explanation
09:09could there be
09:10aside from the Orford Ness Lighthouse?
09:12Oh well
09:13when you get in the explanation
09:14it becomes quite complicated.
09:17Let's talk about the first night
09:18when the airmen went out.
09:20They see lights.
09:21They see various lights.
09:23They probably saw
09:23the Orford Lighthouse
09:24but they saw something else.
09:27They saw something
09:28with a blue bank of lights
09:29with a bright light on top of it
09:32and some other things
09:33and what is not widely publicized
09:36is that somebody
09:38called the British police
09:41and there was a British police car
09:43driving around out there
09:45on the farm roads
09:46and very likely
09:47they were seeing
09:47the flashing strobe lights
09:49of this police car
09:50because it has a bank
09:51of blue lights on top of it
09:53but once they got out there
09:55with a police car
09:56in the Orford Lighthouse
09:57that's probably what they saw.
09:58They never got close to it
10:00in their reports
10:00and they were ordered
10:02to come back to base.
10:04The second night
10:05they go out
10:05and they don't see anything initially
10:07and then of course
10:08somebody says they see a light
10:10and then they call Halt
10:12who was at a party
10:13and Halt decides
10:15to organize a team
10:17and go out
10:18and then all of a sudden
10:19they see this flashing light
10:22which is the Orford Lighthouse
10:23and then
10:24at some point
10:26Halt looks up at the sky
10:28and about 10 degrees
10:30off the horizon
10:30in the north and the south
10:32he sees three bright objects
10:33and they're just stationary objects
10:38and then he says
10:39they look like
10:40they're shooting off beams
10:41or dancing and so forth
10:43and all they are
10:45is stars.
10:46It's the biggest insult
10:47in the world.
10:48We're highly trained
10:49some even more trained
10:50than others
10:50but we all knew
10:51here we were.
10:54They don't put idiots out here.
10:56Colonel Halt
10:56when this happened
10:57again
10:58a respected military personage
11:00retired 12 years later
11:02as a full colonel
11:03this hurt his career
11:05and that's not conjecture
11:06or guesswork
11:06he told us.
11:08When they retraced
11:09their steps
11:09lo and behold
11:11they end up
11:12where Halt says
11:13nothing ever happened
11:14seems everything happened there.
11:17Interesting.
11:18These men's lives
11:19were changed forever.
11:21I'm sure some of them
11:22most of them
11:23would have rather
11:23just done what the service
11:25wanted them to do
11:26which is forget about it.
11:29Well actually
11:30a guy to my side
11:31said what
11:31what would happen
11:33if we talked about it.
11:34The people were already
11:34they'd say it like this
11:36the guy said
11:36with a smile
11:37bullets are cheap.
11:45Walk me through
11:47the period
11:49that begins
11:50with your debriefing
11:52and the threats
11:53that were made against you.
11:55Well we came off
11:56we came off
11:58duty
11:59I went immediately
12:01back to my room
12:02my dorm room
12:02so the next thing
12:03I know
12:04is that
12:04I get a note
12:06under my doer
12:07and they said
12:07I had to go out
12:08to the chief of security
12:09police's office.
12:10And that afternoon
12:12they were debriefed
12:13were convinced
12:13it was disinformation
12:15which is not a lie
12:16it is a very skillful
12:18mixture of truth
12:18and fiction
12:19to produce a certain result.
12:21I'm convinced
12:22in this case
12:22to scare the hell
12:23out of the men involved.
12:24Well actually
12:26a guy to my side
12:27said what
12:27what would happen
12:29if we talked about
12:29the people
12:30were already
12:30they'd say it like this
12:31the guy said
12:32with a smile
12:32bullets are cheap.
12:34You know
12:35there's this idea
12:36that somehow
12:37people can be threatened
12:38and all kinds of stuff
12:39in all my career
12:40in the Air Force
12:40I never saw
12:41anybody threatened.
12:43Were you taken
12:43to an underground base
12:46and debriefed?
12:47I think that was
12:48narco-hypnosis
12:49I was taken to
12:50something subterranean
12:51do believe
12:54they exist
12:54on the base.
12:55I think for me
12:56that's very important
12:57he was missing
12:58for my understanding
13:00is between
13:0124-36 hours
13:02men who asked
13:04where he was
13:04were told
13:05he was on a leave
13:06Halt has always said
13:08that Larry
13:09was meddled with
13:09yes he was
13:10so were all of the men
13:12is there an underground
13:12complex there?
13:14I'm convinced there is.
13:15We signed
13:16pre-written statements
13:17saying we were
13:18off duty
13:19and we had a sign
13:20I said
13:20that's not
13:21true
13:21we saw some lights
13:23we're off duty
13:23but we had no
13:25sign you know
13:26that's what we had
13:26to do
13:27Larry
13:27continued to inquire
13:30quietly on his own
13:31I think was identified
13:32as a potential problem
13:34so much so
13:35that at a certain point
13:36he realized
13:36it was probably
13:37prudent to leave
13:38the service
13:38we had the highest
13:39rate of suicide
13:40in NATO
13:40on that base
13:41after
13:42after
13:43it was a captain
13:45who hung himself
13:46it was
13:47you know
13:48you don't hear
13:48any of these officers
13:49talk about it
13:50because they're
13:50riding the pension wave
13:52you know
13:52the worst element
13:53was the government
13:54you were serving
13:54wasn't what you were serving
13:56and there was a dark
13:57dark element there
13:58your world is not
14:00the world you live in
14:00you know it every day
14:01the guy working next to you
14:03probably doesn't
14:03and you sit there
14:05and you go
14:06oh
14:06I know things
14:07you definitely don't know
14:09Larry outed everyone
14:10and that broke the story
14:12ultimately in England
14:13he went on to become
14:14the whistleblower
14:15I think back then
14:17they said
14:17well
14:18you know
14:18people say certain things
14:19in 1981 society
14:22you know
14:22you'd be laughed
14:23you know
14:24you're a village idiot
14:25it's not that way anymore
14:26you know
14:27people are very open-minded
14:28people are more open
14:29to say
14:30well
14:30whereas they would have said
14:32oh crazy
14:33nowadays they go
14:34well maybe I'll tell you
14:36about something I saw
14:37and then the other witnesses
14:38started to come forward
14:39years later
14:40and
14:40it's now history
14:42James Penniston
14:44claimed
14:44that he went up
14:46to this craft
14:46it had landed
14:47he walked around it
14:48he touched it
14:49what do you make
14:50of his account
14:51I'm highly skeptical
14:53of that
14:53he now claims
14:54he touched it
14:55recently claimed
14:56he's getting some kind
14:57of binary
14:58download to his brain
15:00I was like blinded
15:01by mentally blinded
15:03where I couldn't see
15:04and all I could see
15:05is like
15:05ones and zeros
15:06flashing in my head
15:07to the point
15:08where I couldn't see
15:08what was in front of me
15:09as it dissipated
15:11takes off
15:12up to treetop level
15:13when the craft lifted off
15:14there was no noise
15:15there was no air displacement
15:18which was strange
15:19it momentarily
15:21stops
15:23turns
15:24and
15:26is gone
15:27in a blink of an eye
15:27since then
15:28you know
15:28I gave that question
15:31to people
15:31that are in the know
15:33they said
15:34well a blink of an eye
15:35would equate
15:36to 5,000 miles an hour
15:37so
15:38that's pretty fast
15:40at what point
15:41Jim
15:41did you start
15:42writing the ones
15:43and zeros
15:44the binary code
15:45that you received
15:45in a flash
15:46the following day
15:47the 27th
15:48when I woke up
15:49I woke up early
15:50I woke up at like
15:504 in the morning
15:51and I mean
15:52I'm beside myself
15:53over what happened
15:54the day before
15:54wondering just how real
15:56everything was
15:57if you look at the night
15:58if you look at his original report
16:00all he says
16:01is he saw lights
16:02the lights never got close to him
16:05he says the lights
16:06moved away from him
16:08he never touched anything
16:09what he said
16:10in his official
16:11signed report
16:13is not what he's saying now
16:14and you have to wonder
16:16what does that mean
16:17to go ahead and report that
16:19to anybody
16:20or back in the base
16:21would just be ludicrous
16:22that I would have got
16:23relieved of duty
16:23so I never said nothing
16:25and I got these ones
16:27and zeros going
16:27I really thought
16:28I was sort of losing it
16:29you know
16:29so I started writing it down
16:31in the notebook
16:31and when I did that
16:32it felt better
16:33I thought it was all
16:34going to be just gibberish
16:36I really did
16:37then I get
16:38the information back
16:40and it finds out
16:41it actually has meaning
16:43and there's words
16:44and a message
16:46and the gist of that message
16:48was what?
16:49the general meaning
16:50of the message
16:51was that it was a probe
16:52and it was here
16:54for exploration of humanity
16:55and it was time related
16:59with the fourth coordinate
17:00meaning that's a time related code
17:01and so the message
17:05indicated that this was
17:06from time travelers
17:07the question here
17:10is what really happened
17:12not what they think happened
17:15and what they're saying now
17:17certainly does not match
17:19their reports at the time
17:21how do you feel
17:25about this whole incident
17:26three decades later
17:27are you still passionate
17:29about what happened?
17:30we have questions
17:31that most likely
17:33are never going to get answered
17:34a lot of the information
17:35is sitting in the archives
17:36with the United States
17:38I mean that's
17:38remaining classified
17:40I'm sure
17:40talk to me about
17:42what this has cost you
17:43coming forward
17:45what does it cost?
17:48a couple marriages
17:49a couple career directions
17:53could have been good
17:54probably
17:54a million things
17:56you know
17:57I mean your world view
17:58is never going to be the same
17:59the other witnesses
18:00and I have talked
18:01and we think that
18:02we're just going to have
18:03to live with it
18:03I don't think we're ever
18:04going to have the full answers
18:06on Reynoldsham
18:06I think it's going to be
18:07not in our lifetime anyway
18:11as part of you
18:13wish it never happened
18:13I was asked a long time ago
18:16a very good question
18:17they said
18:18if you could change
18:19one thing about
18:20the Reynoldsville Forest
18:20incident
18:21what would it be?
18:22what one thing would it be?
18:23and I said
18:24well that's easy
18:25I said
18:25on the 24th of December
18:27when they asked me
18:28if I wanted to work
18:29the Christmas schedule
18:29or the New Year schedule
18:32I would have said
18:33I want to work
18:34the New Year schedule
18:35that's the only thing
18:36I would have
18:37that was
18:38that was a six second
18:39maybe seven second decision
18:41that changed my whole life
18:42it should be noted
18:44that neither
18:45Jim Penniston
18:46or Larry Warren
18:47the two witnesses
18:48I talked to
18:48have ever referred
18:50to what they saw
18:51as a UFO
18:52or alien spacecraft
18:53Larry Warren
18:55is an incredibly
18:56sincere
18:56and likable individual
18:58he's paid dearly
19:00for talking openly
19:01about what he saw
19:02over 30 years ago
19:03two broken marriages
19:04ridicule
19:05and scorned
19:06by his peers
19:07and the media
19:07why would he keep
19:08putting himself out there?
19:09he certainly hasn't
19:10profited from all this
19:11I believe something
19:13happened to him
19:13something nefarious
19:15I believe
19:15whatever he saw
19:17resulted in his being
19:19interrogated
19:19perhaps drugged
19:21maybe even brainwashed
19:23I spend far less time
19:24with Jim Penniston
19:26but he too strikes me
19:27as a likable
19:28honest person
19:29but
19:30as of this moment
19:31I can't honestly
19:33sit here
19:33and tell you
19:34that I believe
19:35he received
19:35a binary code message
19:37from time travelers
19:39yes he seems to be
19:40a personable person
19:41but you can never
19:42get inside somebody's head
19:43I believe
19:44he believes
19:45he encountered
19:46something strange
19:47in the woods
19:48back in 1980
19:49but perhaps
19:50his mind
19:51was tampered
19:52with two
19:53the way the human brain
19:54works is quite complicated
19:55and confabulation
19:57can be all over the place
19:58people can be outright
20:00lying in confabulation
20:02or they can
20:03be telling
20:04what they really think
20:05is the truth
20:06but has nothing to do
20:07with reality
20:07the question here
20:08is what really happened
20:10not
20:11what they think happened
20:13and
20:14what they're saying now
20:15certainly does not
20:16match their reports
20:17at the time
20:19I'm not ready
20:20to call Rendlesham
20:21Britain's Roswell
20:23just yet
20:23but
20:24something strange
20:26happened in the woods
20:27back in December
20:28of 1980
20:29something that affected
20:31a number of
20:31U.S. Air Force men
20:33in a profound
20:34and negative way
20:35and that
20:36is worthy
20:37of further investigation
20:38UFOs or not
20:40and now
20:41I'd like to know
20:42what you think
20:42you can contact us
20:44here at
20:44The Conspiracy Show
20:45through our website
20:46www.theconspiracyshow.com
20:49in the meantime
20:50don't be afraid
20:51move over Aphrodite
20:53I'm coming home
20:54goodnight
20:55I'm coming home
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