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The Conspiracy Show with Richard Syrett Season 2 Episode 8 The Framing of Sirhan Sirhan  Was Presidential hopeful, Robert F. Kennedy really killed by  disgruntled Palestinian Sirhan Sirhan as we’ve been led to believe? Or was he another in a long line of Manchurian candidates, a victim of a long standing mind control program.  Richard interviews  Sirhan’s lawyer, and several researchers who affirm the evidence is crystal clear: Sirhan Sirhan did not fire the fatal shots that killed Bobby Kennedy.   Broadcast personality Richard Syrett creates a calm, rational platform on which stars from the worlds of conspiracy thought, the paranormal, alternate health can engage in high quality discourse in these subject arenas.  Director: Jalal Merhi  Writer: Richard Syrett  Stars: Rose Lynn Mangan, William Francis Pepper, Colin A. Ross

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00:00Welcome to The Conspiracy Show.

00:12My name is Richard Serrett.

00:14A Palestinian immigrant languishes in prison for killing a U.S. presidential hopeful.

00:19But is he guilty or was he framed?

00:22Did he actually fire the fatal shots that cut short the life of a young democratic hopeful

00:27or was he a patsy?

00:30Was he in fact hypnoprogrammed to take the fall?

00:33On this episode of The Conspiracy Show we investigate the possible framing of Sirhan Sirhan, the man

00:39serving life in prison for the murder of Robert F. Kennedy in July 1968.

00:45We'll speak to Sirhan's lawyer who is convinced his client was framed and he has petitioned

00:50the U.S. district court in California for a new trial.

00:54We'll also speak with a psychologist specializing in trauma induced mind control who says it

00:59is highly probable Sirhan was a Manchurian candidate, a mind controlled patsy.

01:05We'll also meet an independent researcher who has spent more than four decades piecing together

01:09forensic evidence she says proves Sirhan did not fire the fatal shots that killed RFK.

01:16And of course we'll hear from a skeptic who maintains Sirhan is guilty as charged.

01:21Me?

01:22I just want the truth and I'm willing to follow it wherever it leads.

01:26It is time to redefine reality.

01:33It has been engineered by the Illuminati.

01:34There's no doubt.

01:35I'm here in Centerpoint, Texas with Galen Ross, the author of The Elite Serial Killers of Lincoln,

01:52JFK, RFK, and MLK.

01:54Okay.

01:55Galen, welcome to The Conspiracy Show.

01:56It's my pleasure.

02:01What happened in the Ambassador Hotel in the pantry as Robert F. Kennedy made his

02:09way?

02:10Well, he was there running for office in the fundraiser in the main hotel.

02:15And the quickest way to get to the next meeting would go through the pantry.

02:20There were probably 50 people in the pantry.

02:23And when they got to the steam tables, the maitre d' felt someone trying to get past him,

02:29but it was actually Sirhan Sirhan with a pistol.

02:32The fatal shot was right behind his right ear.

02:35The fatal shot was fired less than an inch from behind his right ear, and all the indications

02:41were that Sirhan was in front of him all of the time.

02:50Sirhan liked Bob Kennedy, supported Bob Kennedy.

02:55If he could have voted, he would have voted for Bob Kennedy.

02:58There have been a lot of interviews of Sirhan in prison by psychiatrists that actually put

03:04him under hypnosis and tried to get him to recall all of the facts of that event that day.

03:10And he could recall everything except for about an hour, hour and a half of his time.

03:14Well, Sirhan was told by everyone that he was guilty.

03:18Everyone said, well, you know, you did this.

03:20The thing we've got to do is try to save your life.

03:23That's really what this is all about.

03:24You killed a senator, and you were there.

03:27You have a gun.

03:28The gun, all the bullets were fired, and this is your gun.

03:30You're guilty.

03:31They convinced Sirhan that he was guilty.

03:33But all the witnesses in the pantry at that time said that Sirhan never got closer than

03:40about three feet from Bobby and was always in front of him.

03:43Twelve witnesses who placed Sirhan always in front of the senator.

03:49No time in any event was he behind.

03:52I have copies of Thomas Noguchi's coroner report in my book.

03:56All the shots came from down below, from behind Bobby, and in an upward direction.

04:01They showed me a fair amount of evidence that had emerged starting off with the Noguchi autopsy report.

04:07And I couldn't believe how that report was basically ignored and not introduced effectively into evidence,

04:16because it showed quite clearly that Bob was shot from the rear.

04:21Whoever was firing was firing from behind and slightly below.

04:27All the indications that we have are that there was a lot of pressure on Tom Noguchi to do other than what he did and say other than what he said.

04:36Well, if it's accepted that he was hypnoprogrammed and that he was acting under the control of someone else,

04:46it's significant because it means he could not have had the conscious intention to commit murder.

04:58Michael Shermer is a writer, author, and the publisher of Skeptical magazine.

05:03Michael, welcome to The Conspiracy Show.

05:06Hi.

05:13Michael, twelve witnesses present in the pantry at the Ambassador Hotel have sworn out an affidavit,

05:19stating that at all times, Sirhan was in front of Bobby Kennedy.

05:25What are your thoughts?

05:26I mean, the defense attorney may say that,

05:28but again, people's memory of what they think they saw and remember, especially decades ago,

05:35are completely contaminated now because it's been so long.

05:38Particularly in the fog of war, so to speak, the chaos of an assassination in a closed area,

05:44lots of noise and screaming and echoes and so on.

05:47And then after the fact, trying to reconstruct what happens,

05:51you're not going to get a consistent story like that.

05:53He's always been consistent about it, always.

05:57There's never been a question that there is a total blank of what happened in the pantry.

06:03And you know, I believe him.

06:11How likely do you think it is that Sirhan Sirhan was hypnoprogrammed?

06:16Oh, I am convinced. I will tell you, in the very beginning of this case, I truly believe Sirhan did it.

06:24There was no question.

06:25At the time of the shooting, he was either on rohypnol or some other amnesia-inducing drug.

06:33Sirhan has long maintained that he has absolutely no memory of shooting Bobby Kennedy.

06:39What do you make of that?

06:40Would it surprise you to learn that pretty much every prisoner in the jail with him says they were innocent and they didn't do it?

06:48They all say that.

06:50It seems that in Sirhan Sirhan's case, the experts have all agreed that this appears to be genuine amnesia that he has.

06:56And it looks like he's been handled or programmed in some way.

07:00He does talk about this mysterious woman who accompanied him into the pantry.

07:09She tapped him on the shoulder.

07:10Does that fit the model that this perhaps was his handler and the tap on the shoulder was the triggering mechanism?

07:16It appears that the woman in the polka dot dress was involved in the operation or was his direct handler.

07:22And the triggers might include either some of the reflections, bright lights, mirrors actually in the hotel lobby or the tap on the shoulder by the woman.

07:32Well, she probably gave him the key word that put him under hypnosis.

07:37And she also, they were drinking a cup of coffee and she probably put rohypnol in his coffee.

07:44He could have been conditioned. I really believe he was hypnotized.

07:48Yes, he was under her control. And she was the one who switched him on.

07:53The one who was seen leaving soon after the shooting and even bellowing out, you know, we killed him, we shot him, words to that effect.

08:02She came through and said, we killed him or we got him or something like that.

08:07They? We? What? What'd she say?

08:09What if she said, they got him, they got him, they got the senator.

08:13And people mistakenly heard we instead of they.

08:17Do you think Sirhan, in addition to being given rohypnol, do you think that he was in fact a Manchurian candidate?

08:25Very likely. He's probably the best example of a Manchurian candidate.

08:29And he probably had been trained by the CIA or the FBI, probably most likely the CIA, days or maybe weeks before the shooting.

08:41And so he was ready to carry out his orders.

08:48But it's the best example of a Manchurian candidate that I've seen.

08:53Well, if it's accepted that he was hypnoprogrammed and that he was acting under the control of someone else,

09:01it's significant because it means he did not, could not have had the conscious intention to commit murder or any other felony.

09:11That he, in fact, was following the instructions of the orders of someone else.

09:18I mean, it is the typical Manchurian candidate type of scenario.

09:23I don't think it's possible to create a Manchurian candidate that can do something against their will.

09:28Not to that extent.

09:29However, getting somebody to actually do something immoral, like have sex with you when they don't want to,

09:34or murder the president, or anything like that, there's no evidence that that can actually be done.

09:39There was belief that it could be done decades ago, but most psychologists today believe that can't be done.

09:45The whole purpose of the Manchurian candidate is not to get them to do something.

09:49It's so that they have amnesia.

09:51And that means they're resistant to interrogation, and if it's an infiltration mission,

09:56they can keep their cover completely intact because they don't even know that their cover is a cover.

10:02Well, Dan Brown is probably one of the leading experts in the world on this whole area of hypnoprogramming,

10:09and he is an expert witness.

10:11He has come to the conclusion, after three years of working with this man, that he was hypnoprogrammed.

10:18Remember, he regressed him under hypnosis and took him back to that period of time in his life.

10:26Surahan is a highly hypnotizable character.

10:31I mean, on a one to five, he's rated a five.

10:35Hypnosis is not a reliable memory retrieval device.

10:40The myth is that memory is like a video recording, and you can rewind it and play it back on the theater of your mind

10:47and rewatch it, and hypnosis would be like the rewinding machine.

10:51That isn't how memory works at all.

10:54It's constantly changed and edited and re-edited, and whatever he's doing there,

11:00probably just completely making up that story.

11:02It isn't anything like rewinding the tape and playing it again.

11:07There were so many red flags in this case.

11:12But you know it smacks of a cover-up.

11:15That I know.

11:16If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it's a duck.

11:21R.F.G. R.F.G. R.F.G. R.F.G. R.F.G.

11:27R-N-K-A-R-N.

11:30Thanks to all of you.

11:31And now it's on to Chicago, and that's Whitney.

11:45There emerged what's known as the Brzezinski tape.

11:49And in that tape recording that was made at the time

11:53of the assassination, the bullets fired in the room

11:56were actually heard.

11:5814 shots, I believe it was five people were actually hit.

12:02The technology wasn't available at the time

12:05of Sirhan's trial, but it later on became available.

12:09And it was very carefully, scientifically examined

12:14and became quite clear that they believed

12:17that 13 bullets were fired.

12:21And of course, Sirhan's gun only contained eight shots.

12:25Right, so people heard 11 shots, there's only eight shots,

12:27therefore there must have been a second shooter.

12:29No, there's just echoes in a small closed-in area like that.

12:34One shot can sound like two with an echo.

12:38And again, people are just remembering,

12:39I think I heard eight.

12:41No, it was nine.

12:42No, it was 10.

12:42No, it was 11.

12:43These are just eyewitness accounts.

12:46They're earwitness accounts that are not reliable.

12:4814 shots fired, yet Sirhan Sirhan was firing an Ivor Johnson

12:54eight-shot .22 pistol.

12:56Roosevelt Greer, unofficial bodyguard for Bobby,

13:00he grabbed Sirhan's hand and was beating it against the steam table.

13:05Five witnesses quite clearly said that after the second shot,

13:10Sirhan's hand was pinned to the table.

13:13This is pretty powerful evidence of innocence.

13:16I mean, the defense attorney may say that,

13:18but I believe that all the shots were fired from that gun,

13:23so obviously they couldn't have pinned it down after the second shot.

13:27So clearly there really were two shooters.

13:29But then there's another problem.

13:31Aside from the fact that you had five victim bullets retrieved,

13:35you had four shots to Senator Kennedy.

13:38That's nine.

13:39The gun only holds eight.

13:40There are serious questions that have arisen with respect to

13:43what's known as the neck bullet that was taken out.

13:47I have shown, proved absolutely that the Kennedy neck bullet

13:51that they gave to the examiners was a fake.

13:54That was a substitute.

13:55How do I know that?

13:56The markings on the base of the bullet.

13:58Pretty hard indications that there was a substitution of bullets.

14:03The LAPD and the FBI both very systematically destroyed evidence.

14:11They refused to interview key witnesses.

14:15Some of the witnesses they interviewed,

14:17they even discounted what they said and said they were lying.

14:22And so it was an effort by the CIA, the FBI,

14:26and the LAPD to cover up the killing of Bobby Kennedy.

14:31You had over 2,000 photographs.

14:33And then you had the destruction of the ceiling panels and the door frames.

14:37And why would you do that?

14:38They just file orders and they know that they're supposed to shut up

14:42and never talk about it.

14:44Because they could be involved themselves in the criminal charge.

14:48Well, OJ's defense team accused the LAPD of the same thing.

14:52So what?

14:53I mean, yes, of course.

14:55Sometimes this goes on.

14:56Everybody knows this goes on.

14:57But that doesn't really say anything about the guilt or innocence of the accused.

15:04I think in the case of Sirhan, it isn't anything like the racial accusations against the LAPD

15:12or any motive that they would have.

15:15What would be their motive?

15:16I just don't see it.

15:17The elite, wealthy leaders of the world or this country

15:23could do anything they want and get by with it.

15:26The laws did not apply to them.

15:28I do know something is rotten in Denmark.

15:33There were so many red flags in this case.

15:36But you know it smacks of a cover-up.

15:39That I know.

15:40If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's a duck.

15:47They have their killer, so they say.

15:51So there's no point in going any further into it.

15:54And the same thing is true with JFK and RFK.

15:57They had their killer and they weren't interested in facts or the truth.

16:06So if Sirhan Sirhan didn't fire the fatal shots that killed Bobby Kennedy, who did?

16:11It was a security guard that was standing right behind Bobby.

16:16His name was Thane Eugene Cesar.

16:18The FBI and the L.A. Police Department interviewed this security guard, but never as a suspect, but only as a witness.

16:30Was Thane Eugene Cesar also a Manchurian candidate?

16:34It sort of fits the pattern.

16:37He did his job.

16:38He killed Bobby.

16:40No.

16:41Absolutely not.

16:43Thane Eugene said, I wish I could tell you more about that, but it has to remain sealed.

16:49You know, I'll be 83.

16:51I'll write it down, and after I'm dead, open it up.

16:56They have their killer, so they say.

17:00So there's no point in going any further into it.

17:03And the same thing is true with JFK and RFK and MLK.

17:08They had their killer, and they weren't interested in facts or the truth.

17:12I spoke with his lawyer, William Francis Pepper in New York.

17:15Okay.

17:16He's seeking a new evidentiary trial.

17:18Do you think he deserves one?

17:19Do you think he'll get one?

17:20He won't get one.

17:22And just like the JFK killing, that will never go into court.

17:28I expect our motion will be denied.

17:31The people involved in those three major killings are very high up.

17:37The people within this nation.

17:40I hope I'm wrong about that.

17:43I think the power of the case now and the defense that we've been able to develop to this point in time

17:52is something that the forces that are very powerful in this country

17:57and who played a role in this assassination will never want to see the light of day.

18:03Who wanted Bobby dead and why?

18:05Lyndon Johnson felt that Bobby was going to try his best.

18:11In fact, I think he's made some statements that he was going to do his best to get to the truth of the killing of his brother.

18:18And so the only way he could really get to the roots is to become president and to fire J. Edgar Hoover and put someone in his place that would actually do the proper investigation.

18:29What they will do is to try very hard to just to keep it under the radar, keep it out of sight.

18:38And eventually, Serhan will die.

18:42We have concerns about his health now.

18:44So he will eventually pass away.

18:46That makes it academic.

18:48And there will be books written or maybe even a movie done.

18:51But that all goes away.

18:53And the history books will still reflect the fact that this Palestinian terrorist,

18:59whom some people have called the first terrorist, you know, killed Robert Kennedy.

19:04And so we're swimming upstream trying to get this story out and to get this matter into an evidentiary hearing,

19:13which, in my view, would have to lead to a trial, a new trial, or a dismissal of the charges.

19:20Let's recap.

19:22Serhan Serhan maintains he cannot remember shooting and killing Robert F. Kennedy.

19:26But he does remember a mysterious woman who accompanied him into the pantry.

19:31Under hypnosis, he recalls that she tapped him on the shoulder as Bobby entered the pantry of the Ambassador Hotel,

19:37and he suddenly assumed a range-firing position.

19:41Several witnesses, including campaign workers, reporting seeing this woman.

19:45One couple saw her leaving the hotel and overheard her say,

19:48We shot him. We shot Senator Kennedy.

19:50Professor Daniel Brown says that after 60 hours of interviewing Serhan,

19:55he has concluded he is highly hypnotizable.

19:58LA County's chief medical examiner at the time insisted RFK was shot at close range from behind.

20:04Yet 12 eyewitnesses have sworn out affidavits affirming that Serhan was at all times in front of Bobby.

20:10Audio recordings taken at the Ambassador Hotel the night of the shooting clearly reveal that there were at least 11 shots fired,

20:19perhaps as many as 13, yet Serhan was holding an 8-shot .22 caliber pistol.

20:25For those of you who don't believe in conspiracies, I invite you to examine in earnest the details surrounding the murder of Robert F. Kennedy.

20:33Pay close attention to the coroner's report.

20:35Ask yourself that age-old question.

20:37Ki bono.

20:38Who benefits?

20:39And remember, a conspiracy is not just always a theory.

20:43It's often a crime.

20:45And now I'd like to know what you think.

20:47You can contact me here at The Conspiracy Show through our website, www.theconspiracyshow.com.

20:53In the meantime, don't be afraid.

20:56I'll see you next time.

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