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00:00What's your comfort level Shanahan and Purdy long term as a pairing that's basically what Kyle Shanahan
00:08Said today Brock is the leader of our team. I've loved these three years with Brock
00:13I plan on being with Brock here the whole time. I'm here. So like Brock's been a stud
00:17He's a guy I got a lot of confidence in and just as a human but it starts with what he's done on the field these
00:22Last two and a half years and capable winning a Super Bowl with him
00:25We just almost did and I know he's capable of getting the Niners Super Bowl in the future Greg Cosell in about 40 minutes
00:31We'll take your call shortly. Let me throw a couple of texts at you that have come in on this on this subject
00:38dibs, what do you think if the 49ers send Purdy to the Raiders and sign Aaron Rodgers?
00:44I'm out on that. I'm out on Aaron Rodgers
00:47You can look at his numbers this year and his statistics and say oh
00:51You had a pretty good year better than you would have thought but the eye test and really more so the ear test on Aaron Rodgers
00:59The guy is past his prime and the amount of distractions that he brings through his off-field
01:05Interviews and just the way he comports himself. I am out on Aaron Rodgers funny to me
01:10sometimes when people bring stuff up like that because
01:13Objectively Brock Purdy at his worst if that's where you want to go this year was
01:19Absolutely unequivocally better than Aaron Rodgers
01:22So like in other words if you want Aaron Rodgers to me that tells me that you're going on resume
01:27and that's fine if you want to go on resume, but if you want to go to the past and and totally
01:33Be beholden to what's already happened in the past. Why won't you do that with Brock Purdy?
01:37Because last year is one of the best players in the league, right?
01:40And he had one of the 20 best passing seasons in the history of the quarterback rating
01:44So I'm with you on that but Aaron Rodgers when you look at the numbers statistically, he was pretty good
01:50But it's because they were behind in almost every game and then you watch the way
01:55He and they went about playing football and for me it was it was pretty uncomfortable to watch
02:00Yeah, actually and and I don't know necessarily what stats you're referring to and I'm not even an expert on Aaron Rodgers stats
02:07But just like you I watch a lot of football. I do not think Aaron Rodgers was pretty good this year at all
02:15Like I watched that offense a lot. I do not think that I do not think that it was impressive whatsoever. I'm looking at
02:23where Aaron Rodgers even
02:26Was rated this year like what was his quarterback rating? Yeah 20th in the league
02:32down at 90.5 behind Geno Smith
02:36Brock Purdy much much better
02:3896.1 not great. But but you know top 15 in the league like yeah
02:42I don't like like Aaron Rodgers to me that doesn't woo me in the slightest
02:46No, no, he had through fewer interceptions per attempt than Brock Purdy. His interception percentage was lower
02:54He threw for more yards
02:55He played in more games certainly, but a lot of it was because they were playing from behind
03:00Watching a lot of Jets games this year because I had Garrett Wilson on my fantasy team
03:05That was probably frustrating not in the beginning of the year. It was fun
03:08But once Devante got there
03:10I was a wrap target share went way down and just the way that offense and the way that whole team
03:16Kind of crumbled and you know, you're the leader of the team as a quarterback
03:20Especially a 40 year old quarterback 41 year old quarterback and yet he was the one kind of leading the charge to
03:27Get Robert Sala out nothing broke apart from the inside and it broke apart from him outward
03:33Let's go to uh, let's go to Trevor in Rohnert Park. Hey Trevor. Thank you for the call
03:38You're on with it and Debs was up guys
03:41Hey, what's up, man?
03:42So I just wanted to say a little bit about the whole thing with the contract with Purdy
03:47I I think if there's a lot of back-and-forth, but the bottom line is he's gonna get paid
03:52He's showed that he can
03:54He can be a manageable quarterback a serviceable quarterback and maybe even more over the last few years
04:00So I don't think it's a matter of back and forth should the Niners sign him
04:04Should that I have to go outside and find somebody that's not gonna happen
04:07He's gonna get paid and he's gonna get paid top-tier money that cross cuts at the record last the last time
04:14He was when he was signed right?
04:15It was 60 million and then before that was Joe Burrow and the talent it doesn't match up, right?
04:20Because Patrick Mahomes is like the cream of the crop there, right and he's got and he's he's not making 60 million a year
04:26So so his talent he played well enough that the way the NFL goes
04:31He's gonna get his money and he's gonna get the 60 probably 65 mil
04:35I just I know that's a that's biting a bullet there
04:38He's not probably worth it when you look at the other quarter some of the other quarterbacks in the league that are making
04:44That kind of money, but I think that's just the way the NFL lately
04:48So I just think he's gonna get paid so the the focus should shift on who are the Niners keeping?
04:54Who are they gonna have to get rid of? I think D Bo's probably a guy you probably won't see next year
04:59I just feel that way and then how do you make this team better to become a
05:05Super Bowl contending team and that really comes down in my opinion like the non-glamorous
05:10positions the defensive line the offensive line and I I think they need to focus on that and I think that's where the
05:16Conversations ago, and I also think the Drake Greenlaw. He's not brought up enough
05:20I think he should be a priority to sign even though he is injury prone
05:24He's a guy when he's on the field
05:26You guys could definitely see it when he came back. The defense was like a different defense. So
05:32Is the team the Super Bowl team?
05:35It can be if the injuries stop because those were like the worst injuries ever saw and what do they do?
05:41When they sign after they sign pretty because it's not an if it's gonna happen
05:46It's where that where the players who who you keep who you can who you can build around
05:54How you can build that defense up because the defense was allowing a lot of points too
05:58You don't need pretty to throw that many touchdowns
06:02And be the savior if your defense can hold the opposing team from scoring every time they touch the ball
06:08No, Trevor, that's it. And it's absolutely right. In fact, you just described Patrick Mahomes season Patrick Mahomes this year
06:15Nobody's coming down his road and I don't necessarily know why they would he's been you know
06:20He does what Brock did not do well this year, which is really perform at his best in the fourth quarter
06:25But if you want to dive deep into stats
06:28Patrick Mahomes did not have a great year. But what's he got around him?
06:31He is a defense that was one of the best defenses in the NFL and they were able to keep opponents in the game
06:37And then he does great things down the stretch. He deserves all the credit in the world for that. But I said it yesterday
06:42I'll say it again. I'll say it again tomorrow
06:44I don't find it offensive or a criticism of a player when you say they need to have good things happening around them to perform
06:52At their best that's that's okay with me. That does not mean that a player is less than or not good
06:58Like even Lamar Jackson who I'd argue right now to me is the league MVP this year
07:03But even Lamar Jackson what was happening early in the year when his defense sucked out loud. What was happening?
07:10Oh kept finding himself in second place and they were losing too many football games and then they made some adjustments on the defense
07:18I started giving the wall to Derrick Henry, too
07:19And now they look like the potentially the best team in the AFC in the eyes of some
07:23yeah, and ultimately the only number that matters is the one that's listed under the W so you can look at Mahomes's numbers and
07:30Where does he fall in the MVP and all the rest of it?
07:33They went 15 and 2 and he went 15 and 1 so if you want to talk about numbers
07:38Fantasy football all this and that and MVPs. That's great and all the rest of it
07:43Mahomes has won the last two Super Bowls and he led his team to a 15 and 2 record in the year that they're going
07:49For a third in a row that to me is more impactful than QB our interception percentage or share yards
07:56Intended and all the rest of that not I do want to throw something out there based on what the caller was just saying
08:00Yeah in terms of who's staying
08:03He also said part is gonna get 60 to 65 again
08:07Doesn't matter necessarily the bright year, but I don't I don't know that it's gonna be that
08:11But I think that we can start to move forward on the premise that the 49ers are comfortable paying Brock Purdy
08:16What's the number? I don't know the structure is what matters
08:19We'll see what it is, but he mentioned that he thinks Debo Samuel will be gone
08:24Well John Lynch said this Debo's under contract. Yeah
08:29Yeah, a good player and has done a ton for this organization. You know, we're not in the business of letting good players out of here
08:36Okay, we're not in the business of letting good players leave
08:38Take a listen to when Shanahan and Lynch then address Dre Greenlaw green
08:43I like we're doing everything in the world we can to bring green law back and we're not into losing
08:47Really good players who are unbelievable people
08:50So we're gonna do everything we can to never lose really good players or good people
08:54But that's also a very hard challenge very hard and that's something that you don't just talk about in one meeting
09:00There's too many things that connect to that
09:02Draft free agency roster years all that stuff and that takes weeks months to decide
09:07I think the only thing I'd add to that the the communication with the players
09:11But what's most important and I know I sat with Dre and always have great discussions with Dre
09:17I know about his want to be here and I know our want to have him here and like Kyle said there's
09:22There's realities and there's tough decisions and so many factors to all those things
09:28But believe me the desire on both sides is there
09:30Okay, so Debo and Greenlaw based on those responses what you're feeling right now
09:36Well Debo is coming back 100% guaranteed lock it up cuckoosh
09:40And I'm like I'm looking at his reworked numbers according to 49ers web zone
09:45His base salary for next year is 1.17 million dollars
09:48Okay, and part of the signing bonus when he restructured you remember. Yep. It's 8.9
09:54There's a prorated option bonus yada yada yada the overall salary cap number is about 16 million
10:00After next year
10:01Then you have a greater ability to get out from underneath the contract because he restructured
10:06His number went down this year and his number went down next year
10:10And so really when you look at Debo is he worth 16 million dollars to your team or any team?
10:16I think that's a slam-dunk. Yes
10:18Then you get into the next year and his salary cap numbers 33 million now
10:23Will he be worth 33 million in?
10:252026 that becomes I think a real debate as for Dre Greenlaw
10:30I think they want the player and I think the player wants to be here
10:34But I would bet they already have a number where they're gonna be comfortable with Dre Greenlaw
10:39And that may not be the number that Dre can get elsewhere
10:42So yeah, you can feel in their response that it's gonna be challenging. They want him. He wants them, but
10:50Exactly right like and and you know
10:53You got to see how the rest of the the cookie crumbles before you can figure that out
10:57And that's why I kind of stood on the table yesterday
10:59Because I really really think they got to figure it out. It's interesting though. Like I'm with you on the Debo thing
11:05Yeah, and I'm an agreement on it that they should keep him and don't buy into this narrative that he's lost a step
11:11I don't know who would say that
11:13however
11:14Whenever I hear and maybe this is the Warriors fault
11:17But whenever I hear a general manager just be like he's under contract
11:21That's exactly what Mike Dunleavy said about Jordan Poole. Yeah
11:25Ten seconds before he was a wizard
11:29so I know that that sounds like
11:33Debo's back I
11:34More take it again. I think he's back, but I don't take that as he's a hundred percent back
11:41I take that as we're a hundred percent not talking about it because we don't have to
11:47Course, he's under contract
11:49There's we don't need to we don't need to answer that question if you trade Debo Samuel
11:53And this is according to spot track if you trade him before June 1st, the dead cap accelerates 31 million next year
12:00Yeah, no, I don't you trade him after June 1st that 31 million gets split over two years
12:05But the dead cap is still 31 million. It's still a lot
12:07So you're not gonna release them because the dead cap is the exact same amount of money
12:11So Debo is coming back for one more year because it's gonna cost you 31 of a cap hit and they've worked so hard
12:18To build up their cap savings this year to where they're number one in cap room
12:23You're not just gonna get rid of Debo and give up 60% of your cap flexibility. So yeah, you locked it up cuckoosh
12:30he's coming back the other part of it is the
12:33the interesting part about a Brock contract because
12:36Everyone wants to talk about Dak getting 60 and he got 60 80 million signing bonus, which gets pro-rated
12:44But as you look at Dax contract after next year, there is an out
12:48So no matter what they give Brock, they're gonna build it to where it's not gonna be a five-year guaranteed
12:55Yeah, they gave they gave they gave Kirk Cousins 160 million dollars and 14 games later
13:00They're like done guaranteed right done. His was all the guarantee is gonna end up I think
13:07There is a way for the Falcons to get out of this, but they will end up paying Kirk ready
13:1290
13:15Dollars for 14 football games
13:19Half of which they did not win. Yeah, you're right. I'm looking at it here guaranteed. It's signing was 90
13:24so he gets his 90 and
13:27If they get out now the dead cap is 65 million
13:30Yeah, but they have to they have to get out now
13:32You're not gonna I like this is back to that Jimmy G conversation that I remember we went around and around on this
13:39And it's a little different because I think Kirk gets where he is age wise and health wise and all of that stuff
13:46But Kirk Cousins does not want to be a backup and you don't do that to Michael Penix
13:52You don't just have Kirk in the room staring at you so that every time you throw a pick
13:57Everyone's looking around on the sideline
13:59There go the cameras and Fox is panning to Kirk Cousins and Tom Brady's breaking it down
14:04Like you just don't do that to the guy. It's not a good way to raise a quarterback
14:08Yeah
14:09So I think Kirk will be on a different team next year question of when you do it
14:12Based on how much of that cap hit you have to eat now 65 million against the cap
14:18Just has to eat and and what's happening
14:20I think his other teams are looking at the Falcons and it's a game of chicken
14:23It's like what you want trade for him. They're like you're gonna release him like right
14:28But then he could go to anybody and and actually we we've got another trade on line two right now. No, you don't know
14:35You don't know you don't know you don't right and that's that's what's going on with cousins and the Falcons
14:40I would guess that's why looking at his contract is why it's a non-starter
14:44Even if you don't want Brock, you don't you're not gonna bring in Kirk Cousins at 37 with that
14:51Contract that is it's an albatross around your neck
14:54Completely right completely and again, he didn't perform. He was worse
15:00He was worse than Brock this year. No doubt objectively
15:03Mike and Santa Clara next hi Mike. Thanks for calling. What's good?
15:08Hey, good afternoon guys. Happy Wednesday to you both
15:12Just wanted to talk about the party situation
15:15I agree. He's going to get paid and Willard like you said, what is it going to be?
15:21We don't know. We obviously don't know that you know for John Lynch and them to decide but dibs
15:27I I actually agree with what I think you said it yesterday where we look into the
15:34Backloading parties contract and where the first couple of years at the most you can still get paid a
15:41Smaller amount. I think it happened with Josh Allen
15:43And I can't remember who else but they did something similar to that
15:47But it still leaves us room to also still make if you want to say that last Super Bowl run
15:53Especially with the team and if we keep Debo among the other players that are coming back
15:57Because this year was an anomaly with all the injuries and everything, you know
16:01It still gives us that capital to still be able to also reload where we need to and again
16:06Keep us keep us still relevant for at least another year or two
16:10For a Super Bowl title and last thing I wanted to say guys, you know
16:14I just have to give a shout out to my wife Sheena. We're expecting our first baby in a week and a half
16:18Yeah, I told her I would I would name I would give her a shout out. So we're having a baby girl
16:24Congratulations
16:26Congratulations and and Mike here's my one word of advice
16:30Ignore all the people who want to line up and give you advice and tell you how
16:37It's gonna be so hard and you're not gonna get any sleep and how your life is gonna change
16:41Your life is gonna be so much better forever. That's the only thing I want to say
16:47Thanks, man, I appreciate it I agree
16:49As well
16:52The guy who's just two years removed from having another baby your life's gonna change and you're not going to sleep so there
16:59I'm still not sleep. Yes. It's true
17:03Cliche I know it's just I hate it when people do that
17:06It's almost like they got to get their own crap off their shoulders. Yeah, someone's like so happy and so excited and they're like, okay
17:14Congratulations. That's the end of you. Yeah, it's just like don't say that
17:18You're not gonna sleep there's some truth to it, but it's just different right you'll get there exactly
17:24Yeah, you'll be bald and fatter and all those things, but you'll get there. You can be bald and skinnier, too
17:30That's true. That's coming up at 412
17:33It's kind of like the people who after a heavy day of rain. It's like well we needed it
17:38It's like yes, but you know, my socks are wet and my rain gutters are failing and all the rest of it
17:45Yeah, tell me that at Soldier Field two years exactly I'm like or this year and I'm
17:50Floating down the Chicago streets. Well, this is great for the early man. I don't really want to hear that right now
17:57Yeah, um, anyway, yeah, the structure is going to be the structure
18:03Yeah, and quite frankly most of us once the structure comes in
18:07We don't even go do the homework to find out what it is. We don't care and
18:13Even though we quote-unquote should because yes, it's gonna lead to this that or the other the question
18:19We should be asking is not
18:21Will Brock take less like that's what we love to do Brock looks like a nice guy. I bet he knows
18:27It's all about the structure and the maneuverability that Brock is
18:32Sort of mindful to allow the 49ers without letting himself get hosed
18:37That's the negotiation it's not 52 55 57 in a way
18:44That's whatever. That's whatever because the Niners can get out of it in one year or two years or three years or however
18:50They structure it Brock is also no dummy
18:54Brock knows that he has succeeded here. He earned this money
18:59here with these teammates and this coach and
19:03Whether you guys like Kyle Shanahan or not
19:05There's an unbelievable track record of a quarterback having better numbers with Kyle Shanahan
19:12Then that quarterback does with other offensive minds. There's a beautiful track record
19:17Yeah hard to find one to the contrary right so Brock knows all of this and therefore that's leverage to the Niners
19:24He does not want to leave. He's not gonna allow himself to get hosed
19:30But is he mindful for example like ask yourself this not as Brock a nice guy
19:36Do you think Brock cares if Drake Greenwell's on the team, right?
19:40Do you think that Brock cares about the overall strength of his roster outside of him?
19:45I know he does and I'm looking at Dak right now four years in 240 average of 60 the signing was 80
19:51Not terrible this year coming up the cap hit
19:55Eighty nine point nine million Lord, and he does the cap hit and he doesn't have a running back
20:00It's because he and CD and Micah they make about half of the overall cap
20:06And so you've got no room for anyone else. I'd argued the structure of it was just completely stupid
20:11Yep, I mean for Jarrah Jones
20:13This is the richest man in the NFL for Jarrah Jones to use his face
20:20To utter the sentence we couldn't afford Derrick Henry is
20:25Like if I'm a Cowboy fan, you couldn't say anything more offensive than that
20:31Your tickets are through the roof your stadiums through the roof. You built it yourself
20:35You are literally the most important owner in the sport and you have more money than God in very few years left
20:41And you're gonna tell us you couldn't afford
20:44Afford
20:46Derrick Henry, so we're rocking Rico Dowdle good little player. I mean
20:52What are we doing? Yeah, what are we doing?
20:55We're not structuring contracts the the right way is what we're doing. That's it. That's the correct answer
21:00I mean what the Niners have done is
21:02Like light years to borrow from Joe Lacob. It's light years ahead of the majority of the league the way they structure these
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