00:09the question for Michigan fans
00:12what is the problem
00:13and who is the problem
00:16good morning 97.1 Jim Costa John Jansen
00:19Heather Park Gov and Greg behind the glass
00:21Michigan already has three losses before Halloween
00:23you can't say it's all Bryce Underwood
00:25although I'm certainly not defending the way he played
00:27when it was his job
00:28it's two different quarterbacks
00:30that have struggled which then says
00:32oh boy this is an offensive issue
00:34they can't run
00:35they certainly can't run outside
00:36this Rhino formation is an abomination
00:38so it's all Jason Beck's fault
00:39but wait
00:40Kyle Whittingham has told you
00:42I greenlit these calls
00:44I'm standing by my guy
00:46listen to how successful we were
00:48last year
00:50at Utah
00:51in the Big 12
00:53and I
00:54I just
00:55I didn't put it in the overreactions
00:56I don't think it's an overreaction
00:59Michigan hired
01:00their version of Jonathan Smith
01:03a guy from out west
01:05who had success in the Pac-12
01:07in this case the Big 12 too
01:10who came in here
01:11and he's a little more mild-mannered
01:13not as fiery
01:14not very intense
01:15doesn't understand the rivalries
01:17you know
01:18I don't hate Ohio State
01:19what's the little brown jug
01:21yeah
01:21you know like
01:22every game's a trophy game
01:23every game's a trophy game
01:24so it feels to me
01:25like they have
01:26Jonathan Smith
01:27in Ann Arbor
01:28and we bitched about
01:29Jay Johnson
01:30was the OC
01:31during that era
01:32well now we're bitching
01:34about the OC
01:34here
01:35I just think it all goes back
01:36to the head coach
01:37this is Kyle Whittingham's problem
01:39did I also see that
01:40now that you mentioned
01:41Jay Johnson
01:42he's the new play caller
01:43at Oregon
01:44yep
01:45it's here to fix everything
01:47got the cleanup crew
01:48see how he does out there
01:50Dante Moore done for the year
01:51by the way
01:52yes
01:52yeah
01:52huge
01:53huge hit
01:54for that Oregon team
01:55they've already taken
01:55some huge hits
01:56but
01:57getting back to
01:58our issue here locally
02:01I think the biggest issue
02:02for me
02:02yeah
02:03there are
02:04issues with
02:05the coaching staff
02:07this was a
02:08this was a coaching staff
02:10that inherited
02:10a nine win team
02:12now schedules are different
02:13and that is the one variability
02:15that it's hard to account for
02:17nine wins last year
02:18this year
02:19you're playing Indiana
02:20yeah you played Oklahoma
02:22it was there
02:22but you beat Oklahoma
02:23this year
02:24Oklahoma's maybe not the same
02:25there are
02:25I understand the schedule issue
02:28but it was a nine win team
02:29you had a returning quarterback
02:31you had a returning offensive line
02:32you had an all
02:33you know
02:33an all-American freshman
02:35in Andrew Marsh
02:36you had Jordan Marshall
02:37that was six yards shy
02:38of a thousand yard back
02:39last year
02:40along with Justice Haynes
02:41Justin Haynes is gone
02:42insert Savion Hyder
02:45defensively
02:45and no one's questioning
02:46the defense
02:47but you did inherit
02:49some good talent on defense
02:51but then you add
02:51Chris Bracey
02:52Smith Snowden
02:53John Henry Daly
02:54some really good players
02:55to that defense
02:56how is it possible
02:58that you go from
02:59a nine win team
03:00last year
03:01to what we're seeing
03:02so far this year
03:03and I'm getting to my point here
03:05I'm going to land the plane
03:06the biggest issue for me
03:08is the play of the offensive line
03:10five returning starters
03:13and they have found
03:14no consistency
03:15in running the football
03:18in basically six and a half games
03:20you had the second half
03:21against Penn State
03:22where against Penn State
03:24that was also a team
03:25that was second worst
03:26in the Big Ten
03:27in stopping the run
03:29they allowed 400 yards
03:30on the ground
03:32against Northwestern
03:33so you go out there
03:34in the second half
03:34and you put together
03:36you have a 43 yard
03:38touchdown run
03:38by Bryson Kuzdal
03:39you got a 41 yard run
03:40coming out of your own end zone
03:41by Savion Hyder
03:43things are starting to look good
03:44well what was
03:46what was different
03:47some of it was just
03:48hey you're playing against
03:48a bad rushing defense
03:49you also had a guy in there
03:51that was getting his first start
03:53in Avery Gatch
03:55now
03:56I guess I'm
03:57maybe I'm really old school
03:59but when something changes
04:01and you find success
04:05maybe when the starter
04:06becomes healthy
04:07you stick with
04:09because there's a competition
04:10at quarterback
04:11you already made a change
04:12why not stick with a guy
04:13that
04:14that showed
04:15it wasn't perfect
04:16but that he may give you
04:18an advantage in the run game
04:19yeah it's interesting
04:19that you bring him up
04:20because I've had Michigan fans
04:21you're going
04:22why is this guy not playing
04:24it felt like they tapped
04:25into something
04:26that ultimately is a reflection
04:28of coaching
04:28if you're running the wrong
04:29blocking scheme
04:30for your personnel
04:31that's a coaching issue
04:32if you're playing the wrong
04:33offensive lineman
04:33that's a coaching issue
04:35if
04:36and you brought up the schedule
04:37I want to draw a clear
04:38distinction here
04:39that's why I was
04:41calling me
04:41I got a thought
04:42that's why I wanted to land a plane
04:44their schedule is more difficult
04:46this year
04:47but they lost to Minnesota
04:48Iowa
04:49and Indiana
04:50and I know Indiana's got a number
04:51next to their name
04:52but Michigan
04:52Tom you had the stat
04:53when's the last time Michigan
04:54lost to all three of those teams
04:56in the same year
04:57don't believe it's happened
04:58ever
04:58ever
04:59how long they've been playing
05:00football at Michigan
05:01they've never lost to those
05:02three teams in the same year
05:03I mean 67
05:04Indiana and Minnesota
05:05beat them
05:06but Iowa
05:06wasn't on the schedule
05:07and that's some of the
05:08at play here
05:09is the anomalies
05:09on the schedule
05:10where you skip teams
05:11they've been doing it
05:12for years
05:13you know
05:13and look
05:14the bottom line
05:15is though
05:15cosmetically
05:16that's not Michigan football
05:17and Indiana's not bad
05:19but Minnesota
05:19and Iowa
05:20are middle of the ground
05:21Big Ten teams
05:21right
05:22Jerome Moore
05:23would have beat those teams
05:24here's the bottom line
05:26they're one and three
05:27in the conference
05:27that's what
05:28Kyle should have been
05:30countered with
05:30when he said
05:31the six and one
05:32seven and oh crap
05:33you're one and three
05:34in the Big Ten
05:36you gotta win the Big Ten
05:37you gotta compete
05:38in the Big Ten
05:38before you take the next step
05:40to the playoff
05:41and all that stuff
05:42like he's making it sound
05:43like you're borderline
05:43a playoff team
05:44with that seven and oh
05:45six and one crap
05:46well and here's the other
05:47thing too
05:48and I'm not defending
05:49Jason Beck
05:50because you've gotta be able
05:51to call plays
05:52for what your offense
05:54is good at
05:55what are the best things
05:56that this offensive line
05:57does
05:58may not be
05:59what I traditionally call
06:00but because this is
06:01the one that I inherited
06:02this is the one we have now
06:03these are the plays
06:04I'm gonna call
06:05in his defense
06:07if you can't block
06:08the run
06:09what do you expect
06:11him to call
06:12Tom what did you make
06:13of my Jonathan Smith
06:14comparison
06:16I heard the wrong guy
06:17from out west
06:18who doesn't bring
06:18the physicality
06:19the identity
06:20the toughness
06:21doesn't fit
06:22if you look at
06:23your comment literally
06:24I think you're technically
06:25being too harsh
06:26because of this guy's
06:27track record
06:28but if you look at it
06:29like broadly
06:30I do think
06:31there's a case
06:32to be made
06:33that it is
06:33Michigan's version
06:34of Jonathan Smith
06:36it's not a facsimile
06:38the same
06:38but there's enough
06:39similarities to say it
06:40the problem you run into
06:42is if this doesn't
06:43change at all
06:43this season
06:44and players leave
06:45and you don't
06:46recoup those players
06:48well if you have
06:48an exodus
06:49of the
06:50holdovers
06:53I mean maybe
06:53you keep the Utah guys
06:55but you're gonna be
06:56in this weird
06:57disjointed program
06:58what you have to be careful
06:59with is you can't
07:00if these coaches
07:02are so stubborn
07:03and committed
07:03to I'm gonna run
07:04my big 12 offense
07:06in the big 10
07:07this is gonna turn
07:09into an S storm
07:09well that sounds
07:10more like Rich Rod
07:11yes
07:12bingo
07:13it's not Rich Rod
07:14yet either
07:15no
07:15but I gave you
07:16the stat yesterday
07:17this is
07:18their worst
07:19point per game
07:19offense
07:20since year one
07:21of Rich Rod
07:22in 2008
07:23two straight
07:24home games
07:25right
07:25been shut out
07:26at halftime
07:26wow
07:27I gotta give it
07:28to Shabath
07:29the last three
07:30games
07:30they haven't
07:31scored
07:32a touchdown
07:33I don't know
07:33if they scored
07:33a field goal
07:34on drives
07:35that haven't
07:36come off a
07:36turnover
07:37I mean that's
07:38how bad
07:38it's gotten
07:39for their offense
07:40we may be
07:40looking at here
07:41like how close
07:42it could be
07:43to an 0-4
07:44Big 10
07:44can you imagine
07:45the talk
07:46if that would
07:46have happened
07:46and the only
07:47thing that saved
07:48it was
07:49the QB spark
07:50can we talk
07:51Tommy
07:51because we don't
07:52know
07:52I don't know
07:53if Carr
07:53is better
07:54than Underwood
07:54I think
07:55he is
07:55slightly
07:56but
07:57can we talk
07:57Tommy for a
07:58second
07:59because
08:00Bryce is
08:02Bryce
08:02we've seen
08:03him play
08:03almost 20
08:04games now
08:04at Michigan
08:05I think
08:05it was the
08:06right call
08:06to move
08:07on
08:07having said
08:08that
08:08Tommy
08:09didn't look
08:09good
08:09and you
08:10can excuse
08:10it
08:10he's a
08:11freshman
08:11but ultimately
08:12he didn't
08:12look good
08:13he made
08:13some bad
08:13decisions
08:14the pitch
08:15on the
08:16speed
08:16option
08:17the throw
08:18into quadruple
08:18coverage
08:19and the sack
08:19he took
08:20by the way
08:20that he
08:21did have
08:22time
08:22and took
08:24him
08:24out of
08:24a gimme
08:25field goal
08:25into a
08:26much more
08:27difficult
08:2750 some
08:28odd yard
08:28field goal
08:28that they
08:28missed
08:29those are
08:29three
08:29decisions
08:30that directly
08:30led to
08:31nine point
08:31swings
08:32in a game
08:33that was
08:336-6
08:34going to
08:34overtime
08:34right
08:35and
08:36poor
08:37decision
08:38and this
08:39is how
08:39it all
08:40kind of
08:40plays
08:40together
08:41whether
08:41it's
08:41the
08:41offensive
08:42line
08:42whether
08:42it's
08:42the
08:42play
08:43of
08:43the
08:43quarterback
08:43or
08:44it's
08:44the
08:44play
08:44caller
08:45poor
08:46decision
08:46to pitch
08:47that ball
08:47when he
08:48did
08:48but you're
08:49also putting
08:49a quarterback
08:50in a
08:50position
08:51where
08:51you're
08:52asking
08:52him
08:53to pitch
08:53that ball
08:53with his
08:54offhand
08:56and if
08:56you watch
08:57that one
08:57he's trying
08:58to pitch
08:58it with
08:59his right
08:59and he
09:00gets hit
09:00the ball
09:00fumbles
09:01so you
09:02want to
09:03be able
09:03to have
09:03a full
09:04complement
09:04of plays
09:05that you're
09:05calling
09:05but you
09:06also have
09:07to understand
09:07while
09:08with a
09:09veteran
09:09quarterback
09:10that may
09:11be a
09:11legitimate
09:12play call
09:13but with
09:13a freshman
09:14quarterback
09:15do I
09:15want to
09:16put him
09:16in that
09:16position
09:17to run
09:18that option
09:19and him
09:19asking him
09:20to pitch
09:20it with
09:20his
09:20offhand
09:21hold on
09:22hold on
09:22they literally
09:23won the
09:24Penn State
09:24game
09:25with a
09:25speed
09:26option
09:26to the
09:27left
09:27that time
09:28he kept
09:29he kept
09:29it
09:30he didn't
09:31have to
09:31pitch
09:31so I
09:32get your
09:33point
09:33but do
09:34we not
09:35agree
09:35that the
09:36Indiana
09:36defense
09:36is better
09:37and much
09:38different
09:39than the
09:39Penn State
09:40defense
09:40I think Greg's
09:40point is the
09:41play call
09:41itself
09:41can be
09:42executed
09:43yes
09:44quarterback's
09:44got to be
09:44smarter in
09:45that moment
09:45I also
09:46thought there
09:47was a
09:47you tell me
09:47if I'm
09:47wrong
09:49I don't
09:49want to
09:49make a
09:50big mistake
09:50after making
09:51those mistakes
09:51it felt like
09:52hey I'm just
09:52going to roll
09:53out and run
09:53out of bounds
09:54hey I'm just
09:54going to do a
09:55quick dump
09:55off
09:55I'm
09:57the offense
09:57is limited
09:58when a guy
09:59is nervous
10:00in that spot
10:01in that moment
10:01making his
10:02first start
10:03it's just a lot
10:04that's wrong
10:04we want to know
10:05what the problem
10:06is and who the
10:06problem is
10:06248-539-9797
10:08let's go to
10:10Auger in
10:10Grand Rapids
10:11Auger good
10:11morning
10:13what's up
10:13guys
10:14how you doing
10:15good man
10:16my favorite
10:17time of year
10:19fall
10:20couple takes
10:21on the
10:22offensive line
10:22we keep
10:23bashing them
10:23and that's
10:24what we're
10:24going to
10:24keep doing
10:25one
10:26if they
10:27are returning
10:28starters
10:28why are they
10:29meshing together
10:29we're missing
10:30so many blocks
10:31especially the
10:31edge rusher
10:32and two
10:33why
10:33if we have
10:34the best
10:34offensive line
10:35coach and
10:36one of the
10:36highest paid
10:37offense coordinator
10:37why aren't they
10:38working together
10:39on their schemes
10:39and making sure
10:40we block that
10:41edge rusher
10:42all season long
10:43this has been
10:44like we have
10:45no time to
10:46throw the ball
10:46we can't run
10:47the ball
10:48so we're
10:48second and
10:48long
10:49third and
10:49long
10:50and that
10:50as you can
10:52attest to
10:52John
10:53your play
10:54calls get
10:54limited when
10:55it's second
10:55and long
10:56so if you
10:56run it
10:57you know
10:58you got
10:58I mean
10:59if you
10:59pass it
11:00all second
11:00long
11:01they know
11:01you're going
11:01to pass
11:02it right
11:03yeah
11:03and part of
11:05the issue
11:05I had
11:05on Saturday
11:07in terms of
11:07the pass
11:08protection
11:08is
11:09you've got
11:09a freshman
11:10now making
11:11his first
11:11start
11:12at the right
11:12tackle spot
11:13if you're
11:14in a
11:14passing down
11:15obvious
11:15passing down
11:16situation
11:17you tell
11:18your running
11:18back
11:19if your guy
11:20blitzes
11:20you got to
11:21pick him up
11:21and this guy
11:22is going to
11:22have to live
11:22on his own
11:23he's going to
11:24have to play
11:24big boy
11:24football
11:25if that guy
11:26doesn't
11:27then you
11:27should be
11:28in position
11:28to help
11:29that freshman
11:30tackle
11:31and it
11:31just
11:31that wasn't
11:33there
11:34nope
11:35and let's
11:36not call him
11:36they could
11:36bootleg
11:37anymore
11:37the rest
11:37of the year
11:38and last
11:39point
11:40we could
11:41easily be
11:416-1
11:42but we
11:42easily
11:42could be
11:433-4
11:43that's right
11:44I think
11:44started
11:453-0
11:45or 2-1
11:46and look
11:46what happened
11:46in his
11:47first year
11:47so let's
11:48finish this
11:49year out
11:49strong
11:50let's beat
11:51those Buckeyes
11:51go blue
11:53go blue
11:54thanks Auger
11:56we're up
11:57against it
11:57I got calls
11:58to get to
11:58we're going
11:58to talk to
11:59more Michigan
12:00fans
12:00because
12:00oh and
12:01by the way
12:01pages of
12:02texts
12:02there's a lot
12:03to say
12:03on Michigan
12:04football
12:04it's 97-1