00:00Good afternoon on a gorgeous Tuesday. We have got a ton of stuff to get to. We're going to get
00:07into college football. We've got to revisit the Lions. I thought the morning show did a good interview where Dan
00:11Campbell, the cracks are starting to show.
00:15Uh, and yes, we'll get to more of the insanity of the Red Wings, but college football, we have to
00:21get to it. Um, disastrous weekend. And yes, I mean, considering all the crap Rico and I take when we
00:29say things, it's like, yeah, you know what? I don't care. I'll be Brad Holmes. I was right. He was
00:34right. We were right. The most accurate people about Michigan football were Sparty radio. Uh-oh. Cue the Carl Lewis.
00:42Uh, your quarterback blows.
00:44And he ain't going to be the quarterback no more. And I'm starting to wonder if Kyle Whittingham is Bonnie
00:49Williams. Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln? And we can dive into the U of M thing
00:55for the people saying, I told you last week, they're not winning another game. Their best shot might be this
01:03weekend. It might be the best shot for them. They're terrible.
01:07Didn't realize how bad Illinois was until I saw the Vegas. Yeah. Bottom line, two and 10, three and nine
01:12potato potato. There's nothing there. If you're asking me, was Fitz a bad hire? My answer is yes, but I
01:18don't get to make a change. I never would have hired him. I gave you the reasons why. See you
01:23later. Michigan is the big story right now. Bryce Underwood looks like an all time recruiting bust. He's atrocious in
01:31every way. Another scintillating 10 completion game with two turnovers.
01:35Sweet job giving away a souvenir on fourth down on the last play of the game. You can't airmail a
01:42ball in a row 37. He's terrible. And now I do believe the bi-week is the time they will
01:48make a change and go to Tommy Carr. But who are your sources?
01:51The point is, no, I'm going to behave myself. The point is, I want to hear from Michigan fans and
01:57ask you the following question. Is one of these guys going to be back? Both of them going to be
02:03back or neither? Because the Whittingham thing is starting to really get scary. If you're a Wolverine, this is a
02:10guy, make no mistake about it. Utah was going the wrong way.
02:14He was ushered into retirement. And you offered him a gold standard job. He took it. He looks completely overwhelmed.
02:22He looks confused. He's saying stupid stuff. And look, guys, we're in a new era of college football. I don't
02:32think you get to come to Michigan and go six and six or five and seven.
02:36And you didn't get it to work with Bryce Underwood. I am kind of wondering, would this be a one
02:43and done? I told you when you hired him, even if it went well, he wouldn't be here that long.
02:48But I want to hear from the Wolverine elite, Rico, and let him take it where they want to go.
02:54But yeah, Bryce sucks.
02:55Might I suggest that he looks hamstrung. He looks like he's handcuffed. And he was promised things that didn't come
03:02to fruition. Like, well, you got this great quarterback.
03:05Actually, I don't. You saw that, Mike, on the first game, you know, the look when the cameras caught him
03:16at that Western Michigan game.
03:18And he just had this befuddled look on his face. Like, why did I? Why did I answer the phone?
03:24Why they took I saw the area code? I saw I was seven was a seven, three, four.
03:29And I picked up the phone anyway. Why? Why did I answer the phone? It's like, he looks like he
03:35has a ton of regret. He looks like he is a man that is not in control. He's the coach
03:39of Michigan, but he's not in control. He looks he's not enjoying himself at all.
03:44Can I make a comparison without getting us in trouble? Yeah, I hate when everything has to be Michigan, Michigan
03:51State. I'm not I'm not being hyperbolic. I'm trying to give you that I just live this as a state
03:57fan. He reminds me a lot of Jonathan Smith in that buyer's remorse on on your side was promised things
04:06he didn't get.
04:07And the immediate where the F am I look? What have I done? I'm not in any way comparing our
04:15programs. Don't get butthurt. I'm just saying we live this. It kind of is feeling that way.
04:22Michael, I can add to that. And David, you could attest to this because I said the same thing was
04:28a Big Ten media day when they asked about Ohio State and he went on. Oh, I played in rivalry
04:35games before and it's no big deal. And that's not the answer you want. And it was Jonathan Smith. Same
04:42thing. I played Oregon. I've been in rivalry games before. God, you guys making too big of a deal of
04:47this.
04:48And I'd said that day. Yeah, he may not. That's right. One there. You can't do that.
04:54Like you got to come in and I'm not saying you got to have the fake hate for Ohio State,
04:58but you got to know where you are. You got to read the room and know what you are about
05:03to say next. It's like a politician. You're going to be judged upon that. That's going to be in all
05:07the political ads. It's going to be in everybody. How does he feel about Ohio State? Well, he says they're
05:12just another team. Then he had to come back and clean it up. No, we got a countdown clock because
05:17I saw it.
05:17But the problem is his quarterback said the same thing. I know. And again, I mean, you could leave it
05:23to Bryce's play if you want. Anytime he talks, I cringe. But this was an arranged marriage. This is the
05:31biggest problem. When you hire a new coach in this goofy circus-ass world of college football, you have to
05:37either bring the coach's quarterback or let the guy go to the portal and select the player that works for
05:43them. Period.
05:45Everything. Bryce Underwood is at the epicenter of all of this. But the operation that Whittingham is running, this is
05:52not a Whittingham operation. They are as undisciplined as anything I've ever seen. They don't play tough. The O-line
06:00has taken a major step back. Major.
06:02And then, yes, you're not getting quarterback play. Bryce Underwood is a crime against football if you care about actual
06:12quarterback play and what it takes. It's beyond woeful. He makes DJ Lagway look like Warren Moon. I mean, give
06:20me a break. It's just, what do you guys say? Do you think they're both back?
06:25Do you think Tommy Carr's coming out of that tunnel against Penn State? I do. Do you think Bryce will
06:31quiet quit? Because the idea of Bryce sitting and learning, that's a fantasy. He'll sit and learn maybe somewhere else.
06:40He ain't gonna get benched for some three-star and sit here and be some great teammate. It's not gonna
06:45happen.
06:46Right. But I think if you really look at it, Whittingham has almost done a quiet benching already. That is
06:54just not beneficial yet. On key third down plays, on plays where Bryce, go out there and be the player
07:00that we all think that you are. We're gonna take the ball from him. We're gonna turn around and hand
07:04it off. Third and five. We can end this game. Nope. Just hand the ball off. Oh, we got stuff.
07:09We got to kick the ball. And you end up losing to Iowa.
07:12Times where you expect him to, this is your time to shine, son. This is the time that we believe
07:18in you. They are slowly taking that away from him. So it's like he is being benched, but he hasn't
07:25been officially benched yet. We're gonna take the ball away from you. We're gonna take all options away from you.
07:30And heck, we found out pre-show that you even had a tight end for Michigan. Kind of get something
07:36out of a group chat gets leaked out. They're not happy. What's going on?
07:40I wasn't really gonna make that the lead, but you do have to add it. Look, in today's college football,
07:45this is the problem. No one is really loyal to a program or a cause. We are living in a
07:50mercenary culture. And the minute the season's off the rails, players aren't thinking about, well, I still gotta play hard
07:56and put something good on tape.
07:58Because their pimp, I mean their agent, is already back-channeling them to another school for next year.
08:05And if you're Kyle Whittingham, and it looks this way, and your five-star QB walks out the door, first
08:11of all, he's never a five-star. If you go to Belleville, you should lose a star.
08:15If you're five, you're a four. If you're a four, you're a three. If you're a three, you're a two.
08:18If you're a two, you're a one. If you're a one, you don't exist.
08:21Wake me up when Belleville actually delivers on the hype. I mean, we ought to start a Devontae Dobbs Memorial
08:28Fund. Like, give me a break. It's just, this kid didn't camp anywhere. It's a joke. It is an absolute
08:36joke. And question these services, by the way, and these subscription hookers who write about it. This was the number
08:43one recruit in America, huh? Really? Really?
08:47Well, you know how you get to stay the number one recruit? A six-star recruit, huh?
08:51You don't go to any camp. You don't play anywhere. And therefore, once somebody sees you and they say, well,
08:57did you see Bryce? No, but I heard.
08:58He's an underwear all-star. He's a seven-on-seven guy. We said all this, but we were spiteful Spartys.
09:05No, we watch football.
09:07Okay, you saw the spring game and people told me, well, no, it's just the spring game. Like, he looked
09:12awful. He knows the plays.
09:14Who would talk to you? Of course, nobody would talk to you.
09:17Oh, I don't know. No one would talk to me. But you saw that. It was like, God, he's not
09:23kidding.
09:23It's that you said it. That's all it is. It's so condescending.
09:27All right, I'll leave it alone.
09:28It's just very condescending.
09:30I'll leave it alone.
09:31Sometimes people put it this way. Sometimes the easiest thing to do is just say, I was wrong and I'm
09:39sorry.
09:40He's right, Jim.
09:40And be a man and we all can move on.
09:43And just have some fun.
09:44Or you could just give word soup and justify and, well, I just didn't stop.
09:50Say these words.
09:51I was wrong.
09:52You were right.
09:53I didn't even need receipts, but now I do.
09:56Okay.
09:57Do you?
09:58I was wrong.
09:58You were right.
09:59And that's it.
10:00And he ain't talking to me.
10:01We'll leave it alone.
10:03David, anything you'd like to say as our resident Wolverine scumbag?
10:07I'll say this.
10:09That's a terrible introduction.
10:11Can I do that again?
10:13I'm sorry.
10:14That was horrible.
10:16David, what would you like to say as our respected Wolverine?
10:20No, I'll say this.
10:23I believe that both should be gone.
10:25I think Bryce is already gone.
10:27I truly think that he's already, his people have put himself in the transfer portal.
10:32That's what I believe.
10:34Whittingham should also be gone, but he won't be gone.
10:37I think because they don't have an AD and because of the president's situation getting
10:43settled, I think that will prevent them from getting rid of him.
10:47So we'll be stuck with Whittingham for another year, but he should be gone.
10:50It's a situation that shouldn't be.
10:53He shouldn't be here.
10:54Put the odds that Ward Manuel takes over.
10:56Oh my gosh.
10:57He's got nothing else to do.
10:58Ward Manuel shows up in a Bobby Valentine costume.
11:01I mean, it's Halloween season, so I'm Bored Daniel.
11:06What?
11:06I think.
11:07Ward, is that you?
11:09I think.
11:10He's wearing Spike Lee glasses and a mustache.
11:13He doesn't even have to do that.
11:14He just walks in, Mike.
11:15That man owns the university.
11:18No costume.
11:19You the head coach now?
11:20Yep.
11:21He knows where all the bodies are buried.
11:22I'm the head coach now.
11:23Yeah, you think?
11:23I'm your captain now.
11:24Matter of fact, if I want to be a quarterback, I'll be quarterback as well because I'm Ward
11:28Manuel.
11:28I guarantee you'd read a defense better.
11:31He shows up as Jeff Jackson.
11:35But to answer your question, Michael, I think one.
11:38I think one will be back.
11:41One will not.
11:42Do you want to tell us which one next?
11:44I'll tell you.
11:44What a radio tease.
11:46We're ready to roll.
11:47We'll get to the Lions a little later.
11:48Dan Campbell.
11:50I don't know, man.
11:52The cracks are forming.
11:54He was a little aggressive in that interview today, and Cookies wasn't even being provocative.
12:00No, no.
12:02We'll get to the wings, though, because Larkin may play tonight.
12:05Oh, that's good.
12:06Let's add nitroglycerin to an already raging explosion.
12:10Can't wait.
12:11We'll talk about it.
12:1397-1.
12:14Passing out Red Wing gasoline cans.
12:20It's an octopus on the side.
12:22All right.
12:22Oh, look.
12:23Dylan's going to play tonight.
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