00:04text pouring in phones open talking michigan football today after a loss against the gophers
00:08over the weekend two losses in big 10 play not talking playoff talking about what to do now
00:15tommy car time though would not now we're just talking about bowl game well okay some text yeah
00:21this is a jensen heather michigan looks so bad i'm hoping a just we make a bowl game at this
00:26point
00:27yeah it's probably one that's going to happen on the 26th
00:32where'd that be at um i i'd have to go back and look i'm just you have all the early
00:38uh where where
00:39are uh where are the college football bowl games and i always look but i can't remember there was
00:45one on the 22nd there was one i think on the second listening to the game on saturday i've never
00:51heard
00:51john is angry with coaching decisions as he was against minnesota one of the things that really
00:57set me off was the very last touchdown that minnesota had in the fourth quarter and i think
01:06they were on about the six yard line could be wrong by a yard or two there was smith snowden
01:13was coming
01:14off the sideline and they had 10 players on the field he is racing just to get across the line
01:22of scrimmage before the ball is snapped so there's not an offsides penalty i would have preferred off
01:26sides penalty at that point because they would have declined it they are scored a touchdown but if you
01:32are disheveled like that and at that time they still had the lead why not call a timeout
01:41oh wait they didn't use their timeouts like i and and i i was as i am now um just
01:53puzzled
01:55as to what is going on all right it's you have the lead it's the fourth quarter you don't want
02:04them
02:05to get into the end zone timeout we're not set this is a big down for us it's a big
02:13moment in the game
02:14let's make sure that we have a defense set and and yeah that that was kind of the culmination of
02:21of me being upset but it's it's the culmination of what we've seen really for five games except for
02:28really the second half of utep but we're talking about utep yeah exactly this text uh is from brent
02:36text is from brendan and fenton says kaya whittingham is rich rod 2.0 and if you're thinking boy that's
02:43harsh if western michigan goes the other way by a second rich rod was the last coach to lose to
02:50a mac
02:50team whittingham would join him in that company so we're a second away from that comparison being spot
02:57bang on and and look you might have thought hey this guy could come in here and energize us like
03:01you thought with rich rod and that has not been the case in ann arbor sharon won nine games nobody's
03:05talking nine wins with whittingham and he brought his guys from utah so there's really no excuse yeah
03:11that's what i'm saying coaches players assistants he had stuff to work with here and they are
03:18undisciplined they take bad penalties they can't run the football and the thing they were supposed to do is
03:24rehabilitate a 12 million dollar quarterback and he looks as bad as he did at the end of last year
03:28without a qb coach
03:32so i know rich rod 2.0 may sound harsh to people it's not doesn't sound that far off though
03:36when you
03:37really start are they even going to make a bowl game when's the last time we were talking about that
03:41so
03:44that would have been brady hulk yeah
03:47well that's also the last time they lost to minnesota yeah
03:502014 is the last time they lost to the gophers my take on this is people need to calm down
03:55with
03:55the coaching a little bit for right now comparing a rich rod after five games is absurd okay well
04:01when rich rod was there like we didn't have anything to compare it against and now it was a
04:07three-ring circus from the beginning it never looked right rich rod was the biggest clown coach
04:13in the history of michigan football that's too early to say with this guy they made him a huge mistake
04:18saturday not putting car in that was a perfect opportunity to see what a different quarterback
04:25looks like in this offense right when you knew damn well the quarterback that was playing was not
04:30playing well it was they that's why i wonder about the hands being tied a little bit with the nil
04:36i've that is a perfect time to bench a quarterback in game when you throw consecutive interceptions
04:44and you're trailing on the road and you've already started to consider it or think about it a little
04:49bit there's it was just a perfect transition to see if it just looks different yeah now you got to
04:55go
04:55into a bye week where you're doing it internally it was a perfect opportunity to see it i that's why
05:03i
05:03wonder with this whole thing does a different quarterback make this all look different on the nil front
05:08we got a text that says i hope his hands aren't tied give tommy carr a chance that's chad in
05:13a truck
05:14and another says is there a fear that if you start car bryce is gone at the end of the
05:18year brian at work
05:19no i think you would want him to leave at the end of the year at that point who's afraid
05:24real quick
05:24michigan fans who's afraid that bryce underwood's gonna transfer is that a fear that michigan
05:28fans have right now are they what if this guy leaves the building you're gonna pack his bags if
05:34tommy carr comes in and starts and looks good right well it's i mean on the on the opposite
05:40side of things too is and i think there was a concern that you know with the coaching change
05:44that bryce was going to leave after last year where is he going after the performance last year
05:50i don't think he's leaving anywhere for a bigger payday right and again after this year do you think
05:57he's leaving for a bigger payday now i'm not going to sit there and say that there aren't coaches
06:03that would look at his skill set and say i can fix that let's compare it to another five-star
06:10quarterback didn't work out in his his first step his first stop uh they had a coaching change he
06:17looks like he's having a little bit more success now dj lagway paylor yes so he might do that so
06:23there's going to be a coach out there who maybe can work with him yeah and that's fine and they
06:28can do
06:28that let's get to wayne and madison heights wayne good morning hey guys hey just a couple questions
06:35before you chime in um hey john like tom brady when he sees all this wouldn't michigan reach out to
06:43him
06:44to kind of work with bryce underwood like you think he would do that to help him develop but i
06:49kind of
06:49wish to tommy carr um underwood had a good game against oklahoma yes but that would have been the
06:57next perfect game for tommy carr to start was the utep game you know give him some experience
07:04but um i'll let you guys comment on that and remember joe was it joe milton he was supposed
07:10to be the next big quarterback for michigan that then he transferred to tennessee he really was
07:15nothing so there's a long list of stuff is a long list of michigan quarterbacks that had a lot of
07:20hype
07:21that didn't live up to it bryce wouldn't be unique in that way no um and and getting back to
07:27you
07:27would tom come in and work i mean you'd have to call him i don't know um he happens to
07:31own an nfl team
07:32and he's got a a very good paying job on sundays pretty busy in the fall these days yeah um
07:39so yeah
07:40i don't know let's get to kent on a cell kent good morning hey good morning fellas hey i know
07:47you guys
07:47know i'm not a michigan fan i'm the exact opposite and i'm here to go but that ain't really it
07:52uh i am
07:53happy about the situation but i saw it coming in and to the season and this is where you know
08:00sometimes people are too close to a situation and they love something so much they can't see the
08:04truth and and i hate to say it but rico kind of called it early and i don't really agree
08:10with rico
08:10a lot of times but he called it and be careful letting this dude leave because aiden child everybody
08:16called him a clown everybody but he's looking pretty dang on good right now and he's competition
08:22so he could go elsewhere in the conference and somebody might be able to turn this dude around
08:28now i never thought he was a great player i always thought that uh even looking at him in high
08:33school
08:34i thought he was great for high school because he was bigger faster and stronger than everybody was
08:38playing against and uh right now it's come to fruition now can the guy salvage his career he could
08:45but michigan has a lot of things to improve and uh and you could see it going in i mean
08:50it looked
08:51like the perfect scenario and looked like the perfect fit with william and i'm telling you i
08:55know you don't think so tom and tom i agree with you more than anybody on this uh show but
09:00uh this
09:01is one and done he doesn't even want to really be there my opinion i think that's why the monty
09:05williams uh comparison comes up because they basically dragged this guy out of retirement gave him a
09:11job instead of looking at these little and don't get me wrong i don't want y'all to be good
09:16but when you look at these other schools like what indiana did and what ucla did bringing in
09:22it's like you guys don't even look to these smaller colleges to see if they got potential
09:27great coaches you know you guys you know the retreads rich rod you know and i actually think
09:34rich rod didn't get a totally fair shot but i still think he wasn't that good um but hey i
09:40am
09:41enjoying when i'm watching on saturdays and you know what real quick last weekend was the exact
09:46opposite of week two because when you guys beat oklahoma all my michigan fans were giving it to me
09:52and then when ohio state lost to texas it was even worse and they kept thinking that michigan is all
09:58that and i'm like dude oklahoma's quarterback is terrible but no one could see it they thought it
10:03was michigan's defense was just so great that they shut mature down i guess now we can all see
10:08material really isn't that good i think you know and that goes for me as ohio state fan you know
10:13i
10:13called it we were going to go to three championships in a row and we did you know i was
10:17wrong dead wrong
10:18hell i'm hoping we can get to one this year right but it still looks a little bit iffy but
10:23uh uh
10:24sometimes you just love something so much that you can't see the warts and there's a whole bunch of
10:30men out there with women doing the same thing on thing oh yeah sure sure can we could we could
10:35broaden
10:35the scope on that there's no doubt about it hopefully she doesn't have warts at least not
10:41in the important place but i don't think michigan fans are denying that their program has warts right
10:47now or whatever we're calling them there's no question maybe get tested let's go to cj in detroit
10:53cj good morning hey guys thanks for uh taking the call uh last caller kind of stole my thunder a
10:59little bit on what i was going to hit on but so i was able to see uh a lot
11:04of bryce's high school
11:04career my son was a sophomore when now bryce was a freshman so we got to watch go to a
11:09lot of home
11:09games and you know i used to take a lot of heat from my buddies in town because i say
11:14man i just
11:14don't see it like i don't see what everyone else sees you can see the stature for sure i mean
11:19when you
11:19the first time you see the kid you're like yeah he's definitely a athlete but man when you're bigger
11:24stronger and faster than everyone um that kind of gives you a false sense of i guess your competitive
11:30level or how good you really are it's easy to crash the schools but it's easy to kind of beat
11:37up on
11:37schools that are barely division one high school teams and you're looking phenomenal and the games
11:43are over with by halftime but then the biggest thing for me and another comparison that i make is
11:48you know i spent a lot of time at the school and i just didn't see any of the coaches
11:52ever holding
11:52this kid accountable for any mistakes that he made or any of his behavior outside of the field
11:58my comparison was another number one prospect that we had in the state which was imani bates
12:04i used to say the same thing about him like like man you know he yeah he's great but he's
12:09also
12:09shooting the ball 40 times a game and nobody's saying anything to him when he airballed 10 of
12:13them you know what i mean there's a name remember he was going to be the next this the next
12:17that
12:17yeah i'm not going to put bryce in that category because money had some issues off the field bryce
12:22doesn't have those um and i i will say this said it already if he if they decide to go
12:31in a
12:31different direction against penn state and they put tommy in it doesn't have to be the end of
12:36bryce's time at michigan it should be an open competition on a weekly basis to see who gives you
12:43that week the best chance to win the games and for the rest of the year it might be tommy
12:47carr
12:48for the rest of tommy's time at michigan it might be tommy carr but we don't know
12:53i got heather coming up next with the news the two grand slam and dan campbell at 802 it's 97
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