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William Branham Historical Research

John and Chino examine how the creation of the modern nation of Israel in 1948 and the Six-Day War of 1967 became powerful evidence for end-times expectations in Pentecostal, charismatic, Latter Rain, William Branham, and Hobart Freeman circles. Chino revisits Freeman’s interpretation of Luke 21:24, the “times of the Gentiles,” the fig tree, and the generation expected to witness the Second Advent, while John traces similar ideas through restoration theology and early Pentecostal expectations.  They explore what happens when selected political and historical events are treated as certain fulfillment of biblical prophecy while other details are ignored or spiritualized. The discussion moves through Luke 21, Revelation 11, Daniel, Joel 2, failed expectations, recalculated timelines, and the doctrine that Christ could return at any moment, ending with a warning against building entire doctrines from partial interpretations—the theological equivalent of hearing “Blessed are the cheesemakers.”  CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:05 Hobart Freeman, Israel, and the Last Days 07:30 Luke 21:24 and the Times of the Gentiles 10:34 The Cherry Pie Problem: Partial Prophecy Fulfillment 15:00 Reexamining Israel, the Fig Tree, and Revelation 11 19:23 What Does “This Generation” Mean? 23:38 Israel’s Restoration and End-Times Urgency 28:31 Did the Times of the Gentiles End in 1967? 35:25 How Restoration Theology Shaped Pentecostal Expectations 39:20 Could Jesus Have Returned at Any Moment? 47:36 Following Restoration Theology to Its Logical Conclusion 50:13 What Happens When Prophecy Fails? 56:29 Jesus’ Warning About “This Is the Time” 58:46 Life of Brian and the Danger of Misinterpretation ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ – Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham – Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org – Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg  – Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham – Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr – Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books

Transcript

00:00:31Hello, and welcome to another episode of the William Branham Historical Research Podcast.

00:00:35I'm your host, John Collins, the author and founder of William Branham Historical Research

00:00:40at william-branham.org, and with me I have my co-host, minister, and friend, Cheno Ross,

00:00:45pastor and the voice of the understanding scripture and truth by Cheno D. Ross YouTube

00:00:50channel.

00:00:51Cheno, I was having a conversation with Bob Scott yesterday, and we were talking about

00:00:56a subject unrelated to this, but we got deep into the midst of it, and I leaned close to

00:01:01the microphone and said, now I'm going to say something that's going to probably upset

00:01:05a lot of people, and then I went into that subject, and we got to talking about it, I

00:01:11don't know, maybe ten minutes later.

00:01:13I did it again, because to tell the history, you have to say things that really offend people,

00:01:18and it's a sad truth, but the history is offensive to those who don't understand the history.

00:01:23Well, that was Bob Scott, and I think there were three times that I did this.

00:01:27Well, I'm going to tell you right now, and I'll tell the listeners right now, this whole

00:01:30episode is going to offend a lot of people, because we're going to talk about Israel,

00:01:35and Israel is one of those subjects that you just don't talk about historically and talk

00:01:40about what actually is happening, and we're going to dive into some areas that not many

00:01:45people know of where some ideas came from, but needless to say, there will be people in

00:01:50the comment feeds who hate my guts.

00:01:53It won't be unusual or an anomaly, though, will it?

00:01:57No.

00:01:59So, you know, we did not get very far in what I wanted to talk about last week, John, with

00:02:06regard to Hobart Freeman's views on Israel in the last days.

00:02:09I was kind of setting it up, and there were just a lot of other things we were looking at,

00:02:15but there were two events that happened during Dr. Freeman's life while he was alive that

00:02:24happened with regard to Israel.

00:02:26One was Israel became a sovereign nation in May of 1948.

00:02:31Now, Hobart was not even a Christian at the time, so that probably didn't mean much to

00:02:36him.

00:02:36Then he did not come to Christianity until 1952, four years later.

00:02:41But I know in looking back on it, it was significant for him.

00:02:46What was most important was what happened in June of 1967.

00:02:54It was known as the Six-Day War when Israel got her capital city of Jerusalem back, because

00:03:01this happened literally just a year after Hobart had entered into the charismatic movement and

00:03:07experience.

00:03:08So, he's both a Christian and in the charismatic movement, and so to see these things happen

00:03:14in Israel were very, very significant for him.

00:03:19And there is one verse in particular that he honed in on.

00:03:24Of course, there are many passages that, in my estimation, do talk about a future restoration

00:03:31of Israel.

00:03:32So, it's not that I have any objection to that.

00:03:36And there's a large part of evangelical Christianity, not everyone, but a large part, who would be

00:03:44in agreement with some type of view of the restoration of the nation of Israel.

00:03:49You know, if anyone knows just a little bit of history, they know that Israel went into the

00:03:55Babylonian exile and captivity in 586 B.C.

00:04:00And there were successive world powers that were in control, more or less, of Palestine,

00:04:07you know, from then all the way down to a little brief period of Jewish independence under the

00:04:14Maccabean era during the middle of the 2nd century B.C.

00:04:19But we all know, by the time we open the New Testament, Rome is in control of the world.

00:04:24And so, Rome is in control of Israel.

00:04:26And there was a Jewish revolt that lasted for four years, from A.D. 66 to A.D. 70.

00:04:35Vespasian came in and attacked to put down the rebellion of the Jewish people.

00:04:41He ended up being the emperor and was called to Rome.

00:04:45And then his son, Titus, finished the defeat of the Jewish revolt and leveling of the city

00:04:52of Jerusalem in A.D. 70.

00:04:54And so, since that period, Israel has been in a dispersion.

00:04:59The Jewish people have been dispersed all around the world until the middle of the 20th

00:05:05century.

00:05:05So, we're talking about 2,000 years after the A.D. 70 time, 2,500 years after the Babylonian

00:05:14captivity.

00:05:14So, it does seem to be something fairly significant.

00:05:18A lot of people agree with that.

00:05:20But what was different with Dr. Freeman was his take on a particular verse in the Olivet Discourse

00:05:28in Luke's account of it, which was Luke 21 and verse 24.

00:05:34This is found in the middle of an eschatological section of Scripture where we're leading up

00:05:42to the Passion Week and the Crucifixion.

00:05:45And, you know, the Gospels, especially the Synoptics, Matthew, Mark, and Luke, are made

00:05:50up of a lot of stories about Jesus' time on earth, his miracles, his healings, and a lot

00:05:59of the sayings or discourses that he had.

00:06:02And there are long sections where he's teaching, like the Sermon on the Mount or the Parable of

00:06:08the Sower.

00:06:09And one of these last discourses has been entitled by biblical scholars the Olivet Discourse

00:06:17because he is on the Mount of Olives having just left the temple in Jerusalem.

00:06:22Jerusalem, he's looking back at the temple and the city, and he gives this great discussion

00:06:28of what's going to happen to Jerusalem and the temple.

00:06:32And you'll find it in Matthew 24 and in Mark 13, and Luke has his version in Luke 21.

00:06:40And so, you know, there are a lot of opinions and interpretations of how to understand this

00:06:46discourse, mostly with regard to which parts of his sayings have to do with the first century

00:06:54and which parts are still yet to be fulfilled, you know, post-first century.

00:06:59And so we come to this Luke 21, 24 verse, John, where what we read there is that Jerusalem

00:07:07will be compassed about with armies, the city is going to fall, the people will go into

00:07:14captivity, and they'll go into foreign nations of the world, which does seem to have been

00:07:19fulfilled in AD 70, you know, just what, 30, 35 years after Jesus said this.

00:07:26And then we have Luke 21, 24b, and Jerusalem will be trodden down of the Gentiles until the

00:07:36times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

00:07:39That's the key part of the verse that was key in Dr. Freeman's eschatology.

00:07:45So by virtue of the fact Jesus mentioned Gentiles, there is something about Jewish versus Gentiles.

00:07:51So you see, the city has been taken and ransacked.

00:07:55The people have been sent out into captivity.

00:07:58Another dispersion, not unlike the Babylonian one, except this went not just to Mesopotamia,

00:08:05but these people were predicted to go to the far ends of the earth in their dispersion

00:08:11until a certain time, until something happens, until the times of the Gentiles have been fulfilled.

00:08:21And so, obviously, if you look at this in light of what happened in the Six-Day War in June

00:08:28of 1967,

00:08:30what Hobart was arguing for is, look, that verse has been fulfilled.

00:08:35That Luke 21, 24, Jerusalem will be trodden down of the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

00:08:46Well, the Jews have their city back.

00:08:49So now we can know that the times of the Gentiles had been fulfilled and know that we're living at

00:08:57the very end of time.

00:08:59So this is the way he read that verse.

00:09:02This is the way he understood that.

00:09:04As you read on in the few verses after that, you have this very famous reference to the fig tree

00:09:11where Jesus said, let me give you a parable.

00:09:14He said, when you see the fig tree beginning to bud and produce foliage on it,

00:09:21you know that summer is near.

00:09:24So when you see these things happen, then lift up your heads,

00:09:29your redemption draws nigh,

00:09:31and this generation will not pass away until all things have been fulfilled.

00:09:37John, when I first heard this in 1976,

00:09:42you know, I'm not that many years removed from the Six-Day War either.

00:09:46And I'm being told that Israel is the fig tree.

00:09:50And when you see Israel get her city back,

00:09:53then the generation living at that time would not die until the second advent.

00:10:00That's basically what he said,

00:10:03and that is definitely the way I interpret it.

00:10:06And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

00:10:08And I'm not, it wasn't just the people under Dr. Freeman's ministry.

00:10:12It was people under a whole lot of other ministers' ministries,

00:10:16all of whom were hearing somewhere in the 60s or 70s,

00:10:21or even up into the 80s,

00:10:23that we have been born during the time when we can be certain,

00:10:28not just kind of assume,

00:10:30but be certain that the second advent was going to happen.

00:10:33And you can imagine the effects that had on all of our lives.

00:10:37So let me tell you the parable of the cherry pie.

00:10:41A great prophet once said that he would bring his wife to Chen O'Ross' house,

00:10:47and they would have a great time together.

00:10:50And his wife would bring the most excellent cherry pie,

00:10:53and everybody would enjoy the cherry pie.

00:10:57The way the Christian church has been infected with this cancer,

00:11:02you, Chen O'Ross, could say that that prophecy is fulfilled

00:11:05because John and his wife came to my house.

00:11:08But the Chen O'Ross who wants the cherry pie would say,

00:11:11but wait a minute, I didn't get any cherry pie.

00:11:12What about that part of the prophecy?

00:11:16We have taken all of these scriptures,

00:11:18and I'm saying we collectively who have been plagued by this ministry,

00:11:24in such a way that we can apply it literally to any point in time.

00:11:29Because what they do is they say,

00:11:31look, these ten things were part of this prophecy,

00:11:34and I see two of them.

00:11:35Do you not see it, my brother?

00:11:37It's happening right here.

00:11:38And they ignore the other eight.

00:11:39And then what they'll do sometimes is they'll say,

00:11:42well, the other eight are spiritual.

00:11:44They're happening in a realm we can't see.

00:11:46Well, man, that cherry pie is in a realm you can't see,

00:11:50so you can enjoy that cherry pie while it's off in fantasy land,

00:11:54and you're still missing the cherry pie.

00:11:56That's really the problem here.

00:11:58What I'm trying to say is I have looked at this backwards and forwards

00:12:02because when I left, I left the cult with a doomsday mindset.

00:12:05I know all of the passages they use.

00:12:08I know all of the ones that they use to apply to Israel.

00:12:11And here's where I'm going to step on a few toes, upset a few people.

00:12:16I have never yet really given my opinion on the scriptures

00:12:20when I talk about theology.

00:12:22I usually say there are differences in ways theology is viewed.

00:12:26And I'm going to preface that with this now,

00:12:29but I'm going to also preface it with the cherry pie parable

00:12:33because we went to things like there's a passage in Ezekiel

00:12:37that talks about gathering from all of the country.

00:12:40You know, the dry bones passage.

00:12:42Gather all of you from your lands and take you.

00:12:44Well, when Latarine broke out, it's breaking out on the verge of this big event

00:12:52where Israel is coming back into this nation.

00:12:53They're saying, look, I see these two things.

00:12:56And they're totally ignoring not only the other eight,

00:12:58but like you said, what about the things that happened in the past

00:13:02that was actually part of the prophecy?

00:13:04It was not just Israel and Judah becoming one nation.

00:13:08That theme came from British Israelism.

00:13:11They were trying to say that the United States and Canada and England

00:13:14are the descendants of the lost ten tribes.

00:13:17Therefore, this passage is being fulfilled in your day.

00:13:20But what about the one Davidic king ruling over them?

00:13:23What about God's covenant of peace?

00:13:25All of these things that are part of that prophecy,

00:13:28they just throw it into the spiritual and they say, look, it's being fulfilled

00:13:31because we see these two out of these 10, 15 things.

00:13:35And what it has done, it has trained people to shut off all critical thinking.

00:13:39That's one of the worst things that they can do.

00:13:41But the second worst thing they can do,

00:13:43they just glaze over when they read the Bible and they say,

00:13:46I just can't understand this.

00:13:47I remember when I left the cult, somebody actually told me,

00:13:50I'm explaining to them, there's no way that this is correct

00:13:53because the Bible is very explicit right here.

00:13:55And they said, yeah, I know I can read that and it doesn't make sense,

00:13:59but I just don't have the power to understand it.

00:14:02I'm glad that God sent a prophet and the prophet could explain it to me.

00:14:06And you can't reconcile it.

00:14:08That's the point I'm trying to make.

00:14:10Yeah.

00:14:10And as I said earlier, John,

00:14:11there's a lot of discussion on how to interpret the Olivet Discourse

00:14:16because there do seem to be parts of it that were fulfilled in AD 70.

00:14:21And then there also seem to be parts of it that you can't reconcile with AD 70.

00:14:29So, you know, you have to do a little bit of cherry picking, you know,

00:14:32from your cherry pie.

00:14:34You have to do a little cherry picking.

00:14:36I think this applies to AD 70 and I think this doesn't.

00:14:39But for my young 17-year-old mind, you know,

00:14:42you've got to picture me where I was.

00:14:45Because, you know, whenever Israel got her capital city back in 1967,

00:14:52you know, I'm eight or nine years old, so I'm not watching the news.

00:14:55I'm watching Batman and Robin on TV.

00:14:57I'm not – I don't know anything going on.

00:15:00And so when I learned this from Hobart, and, you know, you go back and say,

00:15:04oh, yeah, I see Israel did in the Six-Day War.

00:15:07It was somewhat of a miraculous victory for the Israeli people and pilots

00:15:12and army and nation that got their city back.

00:15:14And then he brings in this verse that Jerusalem will be under Gentile domination

00:15:22until – and then he shows you when that until happened.

00:15:26It happened in my lifetime when I was a young boy.

00:15:29And so – and then you would go into talking about the fig tree.

00:15:34Israel is the fig tree.

00:15:35You know, everybody said Israel is a fig tree.

00:15:37And so for the first few years of my Christian charismatic life and experience,

00:15:45you know, I definitely believe that.

00:15:47But, you know, the good news is it didn't end there.

00:15:51I had some time to continue to read my Bible.

00:15:55And, you know, as I read my Bible, you know some of the things I saw, John,

00:15:59that I don't know, even to this day, prophecy preachers still aren't telling anyone,

00:16:05and yet they're right there in the passage itself.

00:16:09I think the first thing – you know, if I didn't know anything else, you know,

00:16:13just say this young Cheno doesn't know anything else except what Hobart's told him.

00:16:19Then I look at Luke 21, 24, and I think, okay, Luke 21, 24 has been fulfilled

00:16:26because now Israel has her city back.

00:16:28I can't possibly know or think anything but that because that's all I've been taught.

00:16:32But within a few years, I'm reading my Bible, and I get to the last book of the Bible,

00:16:38I get to Revelation, I get to chapter 11, I get to verse 2,

00:16:42and I find that same or a very, very similar phrase again

00:16:47that regardless of whether Israel did or didn't get her city back,

00:16:53and she got most of it back in 67,

00:16:55there's still a future time where if people will read Revelation 11 and verse 2,

00:17:03they will see that the city is going to be trodden down, given over to the Gentiles.

00:17:10So it's either going to happen again or Luke 21, 24b really was not fulfilled in the Six-Day War.

00:17:20And so then I read other things, and I came to realize that Israel is really not referred to

00:17:30in the Old Testament under the symbolism of a fig tree.

00:17:35Normally, the nation of Israel is referred to as a vine or a vineyard.

00:17:41And so you go, well, I don't know if Israel is the fig tree,

00:17:46because the prophecy preacher said Israel is a fig tree,

00:17:51and when Israel begins to blossom, that's the way they would interpret that.

00:17:55When Israel begins to blossom, and the blossoming is them getting their city back,

00:18:00then you know that you're living in the last generation.

00:18:04But guess what?

00:18:05The same chapter, Luke 21, goes on to say,

00:18:09Jesus, in Luke's version, says,

00:18:13Behold the fig tree and all the trees.

00:18:17In other words, Israel is not the fig tree.

00:18:22He is giving a parable, and the parable is so obvious,

00:18:25and he's not just specifying the fig tree.

00:18:30I think down in verse 29 is where he says,

00:18:33And all the trees.

00:18:34In other words, he's saying,

00:18:35This is what happens to all trees when you see them begin to bud.

00:18:41I mean, this doesn't take much sense at all to realize.

00:18:45You know you're in spring, and summer will be here soon.

00:18:49That's all he's saying by that.

00:18:51And he's not saying Israel is a fig tree.

00:18:53He said this is true of any and every tree,

00:18:56that when you see trees bloom and blossom,

00:18:59you know summer is coming.

00:19:01And so, consequently, he said,

00:19:04So, the people that do witness some of these things happening

00:19:07can know that they are living in the end times.

00:19:11But which of those things?

00:19:14And so, here is where it took another interesting path,

00:19:19and that concerned the word generation.

00:19:22Hobart didn't make a whole lot with this word,

00:19:25but everybody else did.

00:19:28This generation will not pass away.

00:19:31So, there have been all kinds of books published

00:19:33and sermons preached on what is meant by generation.

00:19:36Does it mean the people of Israel?

00:19:39Does it mean the people living when Jesus was speaking?

00:19:42That's the way the liberal scholarship would take it,

00:19:45so that Jesus ends up being a false prophet,

00:19:48because he said the people living now,

00:19:50when he was talking,

00:19:52wouldn't die until everything's been fulfilled,

00:19:54and here we are 2,000 years later.

00:19:56The way that Hobart Freeman took that,

00:20:00and the way that probably most evangelical prophecy preachers

00:20:04took it then and now,

00:20:06was that a generation referred to a certain length of lifespan of people.

00:20:15And so, it would be argued,

00:20:17was it 40 years?

00:20:18Is it 70 years?

00:20:20And when do we date the beginning of that generation?

00:20:23Some people, as we'll see here in a few moments,

00:20:26when I share some information from some other preachers,

00:20:30would say it began in 1948.

00:20:33So, depending on how long you want to make a generation,

00:20:37you've got either 40 years or 70 years to wait

00:20:41until the second advent.

00:20:43Or, if you want to say that generation

00:20:45really needs to be jump-started at the six-day war,

00:20:50then you've got 1967.

00:20:51You add your, however long you think a generation is.

00:20:55You add your 40 years,

00:20:56which is what most people would say,

00:20:58your 70 years.

00:21:00And, of course, the problem is,

00:21:02as you can tell,

00:21:03the more time elapses,

00:21:05the more you have to go back

00:21:07and revisit how long you think a generation is.

00:21:11If a generation is 40 years,

00:21:14then neither one of those times work,

00:21:1748 or 67.

00:21:19So, you have to start stretching that and say,

00:21:21well, I think maybe a generation is 70.

00:21:23And before you know it,

00:21:24people will be up to the lifespan of Moses,

00:21:28of 120 years.

00:21:30And then once you get to 120 years,

00:21:32then all bets are off.

00:21:33You know, once you get to 121 years,

00:21:36all bets are off

00:21:37because people are just grabbing at straws,

00:21:41you can tell.

00:21:42But this had a big impact on my life,

00:21:45and I hope people listening can understand

00:21:47how and why it was through

00:21:49Dr. Freeman's interpretation

00:21:50of this particular passage in Luke chapter 21.

00:21:53So, now I'm going to go to the parable

00:21:55of the hundred messiahs.

00:21:57Only, it's actually not a parable.

00:21:59This is history.

00:22:00I don't know if you have read

00:22:01Josephus' Antiquities of the Jews.

00:22:03He lists all of the different messiahs that came

00:22:06and all of the different versions of the end time

00:22:10that was nigh whenever the people saw Rome invade.

00:22:13If you read that history,

00:22:15there's a part of that history

00:22:17that most people that I have talked to

00:22:20who are in this movement

00:22:21and the movements that branch from it

00:22:23are fully unaware with,

00:22:24and that is the abomination of desolation.

00:22:27When the Romans come in,

00:22:28they would actually set up this thing

00:22:30in the temple that was abominable to the Jews

00:22:32and that was truly the abomination of desolation for them

00:22:35because they just desolated Jerusalem.

00:22:38Well, you had all of these people

00:22:40who were claiming to be the predicted messiah

00:22:43and knowing how this works,

00:22:45you have humans who are saying,

00:22:46look, here's a guy claiming to be the messiah.

00:22:49He's coming to deliver us.

00:22:50Well, then he doesn't.

00:22:51And then there's another one and another one.

00:22:53Josephus lists all of these people

00:22:55that are the messiah, the coming one.

00:22:58And then there's one page that says this is,

00:23:00I think it says this is the Jesus of Nazareth

00:23:02or something like this.

00:23:04That was actually penciled in or written in,

00:23:06not penciled, but written with a pen and ink, I guess,

00:23:09on the scroll after the text was written,

00:23:12but a copyist copied it

00:23:14and people today mistakenly think

00:23:16that was part of the original.

00:23:18Josephus just listed all of them.

00:23:19He didn't really have a preference

00:23:21which one was the Jesus that we know.

00:23:24But that history exists

00:23:26because whenever people saw one or two

00:23:30of the 10 or 12 things that are predicted,

00:23:34well, this must be it.

00:23:35People look, here's a messiah right here.

00:23:37He's claiming to be it.

00:23:38And then he's not.

00:23:40Well, what happened with 1948,

00:23:45whenever Israel comes to be a nation,

00:23:47you had all of these people

00:23:49who were giving a lot of credence

00:23:53to the restoration theology.

00:23:55They were saying that God is coming

00:23:56to restore the church

00:23:57and they were already looking for the Jews

00:24:00to come into a location.

00:24:01So you had people who were heavily influenced

00:24:06by that type of theology

00:24:07who were in politics

00:24:08helping to form the nation of Israel.

00:24:11So there's a politics angle that comes to it.

00:24:13There's a Christianity angle,

00:24:15Protestantism, etc.

00:24:16Well, what happened was

00:24:18when it did happen,

00:24:19suddenly everybody who's in the restoration mindset

00:24:22and especially those in latter rain,

00:24:24they just went nuts

00:24:25because look, there it is.

00:24:27It's right here.

00:24:28We see it politically.

00:24:30The problem is, again,

00:24:31not all of the things were fulfilled

00:24:33and they were starting to look at

00:24:35grasping at straws,

00:24:36trying to figure out,

00:24:37well, how do we say this is the rest of it?

00:24:40But within the movement,

00:24:41that started the heightened urgency

00:24:44to predict the doomsday.

00:24:46If you open up the very first few issues

00:24:48of the Voice of Healing,

00:24:50they've got these countdowns of dates

00:24:52and they've got,

00:24:53here's where the Jews were invaded,

00:24:55they're walking through Germany,

00:24:56all of this,

00:24:57and they're doing

00:24:58all these mathematical formulas

00:25:00to predict it.

00:25:01And in the midst of all of this hype,

00:25:061954, William Branham publishes this,

00:25:09or it's a recording, actually,

00:25:11but it was published later in a book,

00:25:13Questions and Answers.

00:25:14Question number nine in the 1954,

00:25:17questions and answers number one,

00:25:18what position will the church be in

00:25:20when the gospel returns to the Jews?

00:25:22And he lays it out very plainly,

00:25:25that's in Luke 21, 24.

00:25:27And then he goes on to explain his reasoning why,

00:25:30which is exactly what you're describing.

00:25:32The reason why that caught my attention

00:25:34when you said that passage,

00:25:36that's one of the loaded language phrases

00:25:38in my head.

00:25:39Every time I hear it,

00:25:40I know exactly you're talking about Israel.

00:25:42And that's because we were programmed

00:25:44to believe this.

00:25:45The sad part of it is,

00:25:47there are different views

00:25:49of how all of this theology

00:25:51is to come to be.

00:25:52And I understand that.

00:25:53You may not believe like I do.

00:25:55I mean, I won't tell you what I believe.

00:25:58But there are so many people

00:25:59that are influenced by that,

00:26:01that the theology is actually swayed.

00:26:03And you have to ask the question,

00:26:05is it swayed in the right direction?

00:26:07And in my opinion,

00:26:08if it sways towards a doomsday thought,

00:26:10you're probably in a destructive group.

00:26:12So what I find surprising, John,

00:26:14is what you just said about Branham.

00:26:15Because I've often wondered,

00:26:18you know,

00:26:18how much of Hobart Freeman's theology

00:26:21came from William Branham.

00:26:23And the longer you and I

00:26:25have podcasted together,

00:26:27the more we realize

00:26:29a whole lot came from William Branham.

00:26:32And, you know, Hobart,

00:26:33to his dying day,

00:26:34says his famous quote was,

00:26:36I don't care what anyone says,

00:26:38I believe William Branham was God's prophet.

00:26:40And that was to deflect

00:26:42some of the weird stuff

00:26:44that Branham taught,

00:26:46like serpent sea,

00:26:47which Hobart did not agree with that.

00:26:49He somehow, in his mind,

00:26:51could tolerate a genuine,

00:26:53genuine biblical prophet,

00:26:56i.e. William Branham,

00:26:58you know, holding to crazy

00:26:59and heretical stuff,

00:27:01which is a whole other story in itself.

00:27:04But, you know,

00:27:08it was just,

00:27:08it was a really powerful part

00:27:10of the first few years

00:27:11of me listening to Dr. Freeman.

00:27:13I was just amazed

00:27:14because, you know,

00:27:15we all want to live in the last days.

00:27:19I mean,

00:27:20maybe we don't.

00:27:21I mean,

00:27:21I don't even think that way anymore.

00:27:24For some reason,

00:27:26that was the way

00:27:27evangelicalism was set up,

00:27:29charismatic and non-charismatic.

00:27:31You know,

00:27:32there's plenty of non-charismatic

00:27:34evangelicalism

00:27:35where people just say,

00:27:37Jesus is coming back any day.

00:27:38I think he's coming back

00:27:39in my lifetime.

00:27:41And I don't know why

00:27:43it's important to believe that

00:27:47or think that

00:27:47or even want to believe that.

00:27:49Is he coming back?

00:27:51Absolutely.

00:27:52The Bible says he left

00:27:54and he will return.

00:27:55Why it has to be important

00:27:57that he's coming back

00:27:58during my own personal lifetime,

00:28:00I haven't really figured that out.

00:28:03And it seems like

00:28:04there's a lot of bad things

00:28:06that will be happening

00:28:07in conjunction

00:28:08with the second advent.

00:28:09Maybe you don't want

00:28:10to be alive then.

00:28:11Maybe it would be better

00:28:12that you had already died

00:28:14and gone to heaven.

00:28:16But in looking at Luke 21, 24b,

00:28:19the second half of that verse,

00:28:20I just thought it was slam dunk.

00:28:22It was just,

00:28:22he had made the case.

00:28:24We're living in the last days.

00:28:25You know,

00:28:26it took me a little while

00:28:26to figure out the fig tree

00:28:28and find Revelation 11

00:28:29and verse two.

00:28:31But something that did not take me

00:28:33as long to figure out,

00:28:34John,

00:28:34was that says that

00:28:37Jerusalem will be trodden down

00:28:39until the times of the Gentiles

00:28:42are fulfilled.

00:28:42That is a particular,

00:28:45specific phrase.

00:28:46And Hobart had even taught on that

00:28:49that that phrase referred

00:28:52to Daniel's prophecy,

00:28:53where Daniel,

00:28:55with his own vision

00:28:58he has in chapter seven

00:28:59and with the dream

00:29:00that Nebuchadnezzar had

00:29:02in chapter two,

00:29:03seems to picture

00:29:05the future history

00:29:07with regard to Israel

00:29:09in relation to four world powers,

00:29:13Babylon,

00:29:14then Medo-Persia,

00:29:15then Greece,

00:29:15then Rome.

00:29:16And then,

00:29:18and those are all Gentile nations,

00:29:20that Jerusalem will be trodden down

00:29:22of the Gentiles

00:29:23until the times

00:29:25of the Gentiles

00:29:26are fulfilled.

00:29:27And the only thing

00:29:28that happened

00:29:29after the times

00:29:31of the Gentiles

00:29:31is the fifth kingdom,

00:29:33the Messianic kingdom.

00:29:35And,

00:29:35and it didn't start

00:29:36in July

00:29:38of 1967,

00:29:39you know?

00:29:41So,

00:29:41the way Hobart

00:29:43worked that out,

00:29:45he fudged on that

00:29:45and he said,

00:29:46well,

00:29:47he would use this analogy.

00:29:48He'd say,

00:29:48well,

00:29:49remember in the Second World War,

00:29:51the war officially

00:29:53can come to an end

00:29:55and the allied forces

00:29:56have defeated

00:29:57the Axis powers,

00:29:59but you know,

00:29:59there's still

00:30:00little skirmishes going on,

00:30:01little flare-ups

00:30:02over here

00:30:03and over there.

00:30:04Because I was wondering,

00:30:05well,

00:30:05at the times

00:30:06of the Gentiles

00:30:06had been fulfilled,

00:30:08i.e.

00:30:09Luke 21,

00:30:1024,

00:30:11then that should be

00:30:11the Second Advent.

00:30:14But he would hedge

00:30:15on that by saying,

00:30:16well,

00:30:17there are just

00:30:17a few more details

00:30:18that have to be

00:30:19taken care of.

00:30:20And so,

00:30:21you're fine with that

00:30:22as long as you're

00:30:23in the early

00:30:23to mid

00:30:24to late 1970s.

00:30:25You know,

00:30:26and he died in 84.

00:30:27What would he be saying now?

00:30:29You know,

00:30:30you have to start

00:30:32reinventing things.

00:30:33So,

00:30:33to me,

00:30:35it began

00:30:36not to make

00:30:37so much sense.

00:30:38Just the way,

00:30:39you know,

00:30:40he would say,

00:30:41well,

00:30:41the times of the Gentiles

00:30:43had been fulfilled

00:30:43because they got

00:30:44their city back.

00:30:45He never mentioned

00:30:46Revelation 11

00:30:48in verse 2.

00:30:49But they've got

00:30:50their city back.

00:30:51So,

00:30:51the times of the Gentiles,

00:30:52well,

00:30:52according to his own

00:30:53teachings on Daniel,

00:30:55then once the fourth kingdom,

00:30:57which was Rome,

00:30:58once that comes to an end

00:31:00and Jerusalem

00:31:01and Palestine

00:31:02are in the possession

00:31:04of the Jewish people,

00:31:06there's nothing left.

00:31:08It's the Messianic kingdom.

00:31:10And so,

00:31:11then I realized,

00:31:12well,

00:31:12now wait a minute.

00:31:15Jerusalem is primarily

00:31:17under control

00:31:18of the Jews,

00:31:19but even to this day

00:31:20in which we're speaking now,

00:31:23they're not in control

00:31:24of the whole city.

00:31:25There is a Muslim mosque,

00:31:27the Dome of the Rock,

00:31:28right on the Temple Mount.

00:31:31The Jewish people

00:31:32are not in control

00:31:33of that part of the city,

00:31:34and that seems to be

00:31:36a very important part

00:31:38of the city.

00:31:38So,

00:31:39all of these things

00:31:40just create

00:31:43problems

00:31:43in a person's mind.

00:31:45You're wondering,

00:31:45how can this person

00:31:47teach what he has taught

00:31:48on the times

00:31:49of the Gentiles

00:31:50and be teaching this?

00:31:52You know,

00:31:52John,

00:31:53it reminds me,

00:31:54there is a famous quote,

00:31:57this is a non-Christian

00:31:58background

00:31:59in writing completely,

00:32:00but you remember

00:32:01Lewis Carroll

00:32:02who wrote those

00:32:04fascinating

00:32:06children's novels

00:32:07about Alice's

00:32:09adventures

00:32:09in Wonderland,

00:32:10and then I think

00:32:11there was a subsequent

00:32:12through the looking glass.

00:32:15Through the looking glass,

00:32:17I'm just thinking

00:32:18about that right now

00:32:19in light of what

00:32:20I just said

00:32:21regarding Dr. Freeman's

00:32:23contradictory views

00:32:24about so many

00:32:25eschatological things.

00:32:27Through the looking glass

00:32:29introduced us

00:32:30to all these

00:32:31interesting characters

00:32:32like Humpty Dumpty

00:32:33and the Rabbit

00:32:34and Twiddly Dee

00:32:36and Twiddly Dum,

00:32:37but there was

00:32:38another character

00:32:39called the White Queen,

00:32:42I think was her name.

00:32:43There was a Red Queen

00:32:44and the White Queen,

00:32:46and the White Queen,

00:32:48who was supposed to be

00:32:49over 100 years old,

00:32:51the White Queen,

00:32:54whom Alice could never

00:32:56figure out,

00:32:58she made this famous quote

00:33:00where she said,

00:33:01sometimes I have believed

00:33:04six contradictory things

00:33:06before I've even eaten

00:33:08breakfast in the morning.

00:33:10And that is just an expression

00:33:13that was, I thought,

00:33:14brilliantly done

00:33:14by Lewis Carroll,

00:33:16how people can,

00:33:18before breakfast,

00:33:19believe six contradictory things,

00:33:21have all of these

00:33:22different things

00:33:23in their brain

00:33:24firing like pistons

00:33:27in a car,

00:33:28but yet they don't

00:33:30line up with each other.

00:33:31So when you look

00:33:32at the fact that

00:33:33Israel's not the fig tree,

00:33:35he's not talking about

00:33:37Israel as a fig tree

00:33:39because he's just saying

00:33:40all the trees

00:33:41have followed

00:33:42this same pattern

00:33:43of producing leaves

00:33:46and buds

00:33:46before they actually

00:33:47produce fruit.

00:33:49the fact that Israel

00:33:51didn't get her

00:33:52whole city back,

00:33:53she doesn't have it

00:33:54to this day,

00:33:55the fact that

00:33:56the times of the Gentiles

00:33:58must not have come

00:33:59to an end

00:34:00because they're still

00:34:01going to overrun

00:34:02the city

00:34:03at a future date

00:34:04in Revelation 11,

00:34:05too,

00:34:06just tells me

00:34:07I think

00:34:08Dr. Freeman's

00:34:09interpretation

00:34:10of Luke 11,

00:34:1124,

00:34:1221,

00:34:1324,

00:34:14rather,

00:34:14was wrong,

00:34:15and I better

00:34:16just put the brakes

00:34:17on all of this stuff

00:34:18concerning what

00:34:20you just said

00:34:21of this urgency

00:34:22that we can be certain

00:34:23that the Second Advent

00:34:24is going to happen

00:34:25any day.

00:34:26Have you ever wondered

00:34:28how the Pentecostal

00:34:29movement started

00:34:30or how the progression

00:34:31of modern Pentecostalism

00:34:33transitioned

00:34:34through the latter reign,

00:34:35charismatic,

00:34:36and other fringe movements

00:34:37into the New Apostolic Reformation?

00:34:40You can learn

00:34:41this and more

00:34:41on William Branham

00:34:43Historical Research's

00:34:44website,

00:34:44william-branham.org.

00:34:47On the books page

00:34:48of the website,

00:34:49you can find

00:34:50the compiled research

00:34:51of John Collins,

00:34:52Charles Paisley,

00:34:54Stephen Montgomery,

00:34:55John McKinnon,

00:34:56and others,

00:34:57with links to the paper,

00:34:58audio,

00:34:59and digital versions

00:35:00of each book.

00:35:01You can also find

00:35:02resources and documentation

00:35:04on various people

00:35:05and topics

00:35:06related to those movements.

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00:35:26When I'm talking

00:35:27to somebody

00:35:28and I'm talking

00:35:28about something

00:35:29really important

00:35:30and my wife

00:35:31is with me,

00:35:32she's the one

00:35:33who corrects me

00:35:33and says,

00:35:34no, John,

00:35:34your memory's wrong.

00:35:35This happened

00:35:36slightly different

00:35:37and she'll make sure

00:35:38that the other party's aware

00:35:39that she's trying

00:35:40to keep John honest.

00:35:41And it just has to do

00:35:43with, you know,

00:35:44people's memories

00:35:45over time,

00:35:46they kind of change

00:35:47and they have this way

00:35:49of remembering things

00:35:51in the way

00:35:52that they want to

00:35:53rather than the painful parts

00:35:54that might make them

00:35:55feel uncomfortable later.

00:35:57That's just human nature.

00:35:58That's part of psychology.

00:36:00The reason I like history

00:36:01is because it's like my wife.

00:36:03Whenever it's documented,

00:36:04it keeps people honest.

00:36:07And I have made

00:36:08the statement a few times

00:36:09and now is the good

00:36:11goodest time of any

00:36:12to qualify it

00:36:13that the early Pentecostal movement

00:36:15was really

00:36:15Lateran 1.0.

00:36:17Lateran was Lateran 2.0.

00:36:19IHOP KC was Lateran 3.0

00:36:22and beyond.

00:36:23Well, there is a book

00:36:25which I'll admit

00:36:26I've not read it

00:36:27but I have read

00:36:28many scholars reference it

00:36:29in some of my research

00:36:30written by D. Wesley Myland.

00:36:33It's called

00:36:33The Lateran Covenant

00:36:34and Pentecostal Power

00:36:36and what this book did

00:36:38was it took

00:36:40what it considered

00:36:41to be the early reign

00:36:42it's taking that passage

00:36:43from Joel 2

00:36:44it says the early reign

00:36:46was Pentecost Acts 2.

00:36:47That's what it was predicting.

00:36:49So it's already ripped

00:36:51Joel's prophecy

00:36:52out of context

00:36:53and then it says

00:36:54he went on to

00:36:56try to say

00:36:57that the long dry period

00:36:59was actually

00:37:00what we call

00:37:01church history.

00:37:02That's when the church

00:37:03had this long dry period

00:37:05and then the latter rain

00:37:06is whenever

00:37:07the Lord came

00:37:08and restored

00:37:08the Holy Spirit power

00:37:09and he's referring to

00:37:11Azusa Street obviously.

00:37:12Well, he goes on to say

00:37:14that the harvest

00:37:15is going to be

00:37:16this final

00:37:16worldwide evangelism

00:37:18and that was a theme

00:37:19that was flowing

00:37:20in the early Pentecostal movement

00:37:22and the movements prior

00:37:24and all of this

00:37:25to sum up

00:37:26his main thesis

00:37:27which is

00:37:28the second coming

00:37:29is imminent.

00:37:30Now this book

00:37:30was written in 1910

00:37:32long before any of this

00:37:34so every Pentecostal

00:37:35is looking at this book

00:37:36thinking

00:37:37wow, when Israel comes

00:37:38this is it

00:37:39it's imminent.

00:37:40So when you look at

00:37:41Voice of Healing magazine

00:37:42or any of the other people

00:37:44who are doing

00:37:44all these calculations

00:37:45when's it going to be

00:37:46it's tomorrow

00:37:47it's next year

00:37:47they're all going back

00:37:49to this theme

00:37:50which wasn't unique

00:37:51that we're going to see

00:37:54Israel restored

00:37:55in their nation

00:37:56and then boom

00:37:56that's it

00:37:57it's happening.

00:37:58And so everybody thought

00:38:00Doomsday was right here

00:38:01upon us.

00:38:01Well what happened was

00:38:03it kind of fizzled out

00:38:04because Doomsday

00:38:05didn't happen

00:38:06so then the latter rain

00:38:07movement breaks out

00:38:08in North Battleford

00:38:09well suddenly it's reunited

00:38:11because not long after

00:38:13Israel actually becomes a nation

00:38:14so they get really excited

00:38:16and they think

00:38:17okay well

00:38:17we thought it was going to be

00:38:19that other one

00:38:19well it's this one.

00:38:20The point I'm trying to make

00:38:21in all of this is

00:38:22history keeps us honest.

00:38:24You can look back through time

00:38:26long before this

00:38:27and you're going to find

00:38:28people who find

00:38:28a political event

00:38:29they're going to find

00:38:30people who have

00:38:32some sort of a move

00:38:33in the church

00:38:34or whatever it is

00:38:34and they'll pick

00:38:35two or three things

00:38:36out of context

00:38:37and they'll say

00:38:37this passage of scripture

00:38:40means us

00:38:41and the worst error

00:38:42that I see in all of this

00:38:43really is the Joel 2.

00:38:45Joel 2's prophecy

00:38:46wasn't talking about this

00:38:47at all

00:38:47and if you understand

00:38:48that prophecy

00:38:49it's actually not

00:38:50that good of a thing

00:38:51it's talking about

00:38:52a plague that's coming

00:38:53to the land

00:38:53it's not talking about

00:38:55a great coming thing

00:38:56so whenever I'm looking

00:38:58at all of this mess

00:39:01yes I understand

00:39:02that there are

00:39:02different theological views

00:39:04and I'm not going to say

00:39:04that those are right or wrong

00:39:05but the error

00:39:07is trying to say

00:39:08that we know

00:39:09for certain what it is

00:39:10and I think that's

00:39:11where Hobart Freeman

00:39:12wandered off into error

00:39:13because he spoke

00:39:14with certainty

00:39:15yes I know this is it

00:39:16and look

00:39:17you have to obey me.

00:39:19yeah I don't know

00:39:21if you'll be up for it

00:39:22in the future

00:39:22but we could

00:39:23do a podcast together

00:39:25on the former

00:39:27and latter reign

00:39:28that would

00:39:29I don't know

00:39:29if you've done one

00:39:30but that would be

00:39:30an interesting one

00:39:33you know

00:39:33it's definitely true

00:39:35John

00:39:35that the New Testament

00:39:36does teach

00:39:39that the second coming

00:39:40will be sudden

00:39:41that it will be

00:39:43unexpected

00:39:44you know

00:39:45it's many times

00:39:46couched in the form

00:39:47of a thief in the night

00:39:50those aspects

00:39:51of the second coming

00:39:52are definitely there

00:39:53in the New Testament

00:39:54what I have always

00:39:55what I have wondered

00:39:56for the last 40 years

00:39:58is where

00:39:59did

00:40:01modern Christianity

00:40:02come up

00:40:03with the idea

00:40:05that the second coming

00:40:07of Jesus

00:40:08could happen

00:40:08at any moment

00:40:09that's not the same

00:40:11as saying

00:40:12it's going to be

00:40:12sudden or unexpected

00:40:13those are two

00:40:14entirely different

00:40:15philosophical concepts

00:40:17where did this idea

00:40:18come

00:40:19where did it begin

00:40:20what was the date

00:40:22the first date

00:40:23where from that

00:40:24date forward

00:40:25the second coming

00:40:26of Jesus

00:40:27could happen

00:40:27at any moment

00:40:28because I've simply

00:40:29just stopped people

00:40:30and said

00:40:30wait a minute

00:40:31let's analyze that

00:40:32do you believe

00:40:33do you believe

00:40:34Jesus could come

00:40:35at any moment

00:40:35they say yes

00:40:36said okay

00:40:38how long

00:40:39has that

00:40:41doctrine

00:40:42let's call it

00:40:43the imminency

00:40:44of the return

00:40:45of Christ

00:40:45how long has that

00:40:46been a true doctrine

00:40:47how long has it

00:40:48been true

00:40:48and they'll say

00:40:48well that's always

00:40:49been true

00:40:50and I'll say

00:40:51okay I was hoping

00:40:52you would say

00:40:52that

00:40:52so

00:40:54the day

00:40:55after Jesus

00:40:56ascended into

00:40:57heaven

00:40:58this is Acts

00:40:59111

00:41:00the day

00:41:00after he

00:41:01ascended into

00:41:02heaven

00:41:02could he have

00:41:03come back

00:41:03that day

00:41:05well

00:41:07no

00:41:07because

00:41:08you know

00:41:09he had to

00:41:09pour out

00:41:10the Holy Spirit

00:41:10first

00:41:11I said

00:41:11yes

00:41:12exactly

00:41:13that was

00:41:13going to be

00:41:1410 days

00:41:14later

00:41:15so he

00:41:16could not

00:41:16could he

00:41:17theoretically

00:41:18literally

00:41:19technically

00:41:20theologically

00:41:20in any way

00:41:21could he have

00:41:22come back

00:41:22prior to

00:41:23Pentecost

00:41:24no

00:41:24because he

00:41:25had predicted

00:41:26the outpouring

00:41:27of the Holy Spirit

00:41:28well then what

00:41:29about four months

00:41:30after Acts 2

00:41:31could Jesus

00:41:32have come back

00:41:33and they say

00:41:33well yes

00:41:34he

00:41:35the early church

00:41:36thought he could

00:41:36come back

00:41:37at any moment

00:41:37I said no

00:41:38they actually

00:41:39did not think

00:41:40that

00:41:40because he

00:41:41had predicted

00:41:42the gospel

00:41:43would be spread

00:41:44after the

00:41:45outpouring of

00:41:45the Holy Spirit

00:41:46in Jerusalem

00:41:48in Judea

00:41:49in Samaria

00:41:50and to the

00:41:50uttermost parts

00:41:51of the earth

00:41:52if he comes

00:41:54back there's

00:41:54no time

00:41:55for that

00:41:55to happen

00:41:56and you

00:41:56just work

00:41:57your way

00:41:57through

00:41:57early

00:41:59first century

00:42:01church history

00:42:01asking the

00:42:02person the

00:42:03question

00:42:03so when

00:42:04did this

00:42:05doctrine

00:42:06of imminency

00:42:07become a

00:42:09valid

00:42:09Christian

00:42:10doctrine

00:42:11what about

00:42:1210 years

00:42:1315 years

00:42:14after the

00:42:15day of

00:42:15Pentecost

00:42:16could he

00:42:17have come

00:42:17back

00:42:18at any

00:42:19moment

00:42:19and they

00:42:20say well

00:42:21yes

00:42:21and I

00:42:22say no

00:42:22because he

00:42:24appeared to

00:42:25Paul in

00:42:25a vision

00:42:26and said

00:42:26Paul had

00:42:27to appear

00:42:28before Caesar

00:42:29in Rome

00:42:29and testify

00:42:30about Jesus

00:42:31so he can't

00:42:32come back

00:42:33until at least

00:42:34Paul gets

00:42:34to Rome

00:42:35you know

00:42:35and you keep

00:42:36working your

00:42:37way through

00:42:37what the

00:42:39what the

00:42:40New Testament

00:42:40actually shows

00:42:42about early

00:42:44church history

00:42:45and their

00:42:45belief about

00:42:46the second

00:42:46advent

00:42:47and then you

00:42:47get all the

00:42:48way to the

00:42:48end of

00:42:48John's

00:42:49gospel

00:42:49which is a

00:42:51in John

00:42:5121 there's

00:42:52this remarkable

00:42:53prophecy

00:42:53where it

00:42:55has to do

00:42:55with John

00:42:56the beloved

00:42:57disciple

00:42:58and Peter

00:42:58and Jesus

00:43:00says to

00:43:01Peter when

00:43:01you were

00:43:02young

00:43:04you know

00:43:04you did

00:43:05what you

00:43:06wanted to

00:43:06do

00:43:07basically

00:43:07when you

00:43:08were old

00:43:08when you

00:43:09will become

00:43:09old

00:43:10you'll stretch

00:43:11forth your

00:43:11hands

00:43:12and someone

00:43:13else will

00:43:13carry you

00:43:14whether you

00:43:15don't want

00:43:15to go

00:43:16and John

00:43:16goes on to

00:43:17tell us

00:43:17that was a

00:43:18prediction

00:43:18of Peter's

00:43:19death

00:43:20so Jesus

00:43:21is saying

00:43:22Peter's not

00:43:23going to die

00:43:23as a young

00:43:24man or as

00:43:24a middle-aged

00:43:25man

00:43:25that is an

00:43:26absolute

00:43:27prediction

00:43:27that he

00:43:29is going

00:43:29to die

00:43:30and glorify

00:43:32Jesus

00:43:32in his

00:43:33death

00:43:33but he's

00:43:34going to

00:43:34die

00:43:34at an

00:43:34older

00:43:35age

00:43:35so again

00:43:36the second

00:43:36coming

00:43:37couldn't have

00:43:37happened

00:43:37until then

00:43:38so you

00:43:39know once

00:43:39I just

00:43:40sat down

00:43:41and just

00:43:41thought

00:43:42it's not

00:43:43deep

00:43:43it's not

00:43:44theological

00:43:45it's not

00:43:45philosophical

00:43:46it is

00:43:47logical

00:43:47could he

00:43:48have come

00:43:49back at

00:43:49any moment

00:43:50during the

00:43:50first century

00:43:52no

00:43:52certain things

00:43:53have to

00:43:54have happened

00:43:55and then

00:43:56John when

00:43:56you put

00:43:56with that

00:43:57all these

00:43:58parables

00:43:59that Jesus

00:43:59himself

00:44:00taught

00:44:01where he

00:44:02he taught

00:44:02a parable

00:44:03about a

00:44:03nobleman

00:44:04who was

00:44:05going to

00:44:05go into

00:44:05a far

00:44:06country

00:44:07and receive

00:44:08a kingdom

00:44:09and this

00:44:09far country

00:44:10implies

00:44:11distance

00:44:11which implies

00:44:12time

00:44:13and then

00:44:14he comes

00:44:15back

00:44:15you have

00:44:16other

00:44:16parables

00:44:17like the

00:44:17parable

00:44:18of the

00:44:18ten

00:44:19virgins

00:44:19the five

00:44:20foolish

00:44:21the five

00:44:21wise

00:44:22even the

00:44:23five that

00:44:23are wise

00:44:24once this

00:44:26person has

00:44:26gone

00:44:27they have

00:44:28fallen asleep

00:44:28you know

00:44:30they are

00:44:30asleep

00:44:31and then

00:44:32the bridegroom

00:44:33comes back

00:44:34all of these

00:44:35parables imply

00:44:37what a

00:44:37long period

00:44:39of time

00:44:39we don't

00:44:39know how

00:44:40long

00:44:40that's the

00:44:41whole thing

00:44:41we don't

00:44:42know how

00:44:42long

00:44:43so could

00:44:44he have

00:44:44come back

00:44:44in AD

00:44:4550

00:44:46no

00:44:46in AD

00:44:4760

00:44:47no

00:44:47in AD

00:44:4880

00:44:48no

00:44:49could he

00:44:50come back

00:44:50today

00:44:51I don't

00:44:52know if

00:44:52he could

00:44:53come back

00:44:53today or

00:44:54not

00:44:54that's the

00:44:55whole point

00:44:56of this

00:44:56it's going

00:44:56to be

00:44:57a long

00:44:57time

00:44:58and those

00:44:59parables

00:44:59tell us

00:45:01occupy

00:45:02until I

00:45:03come

00:45:04that's your

00:45:04responsibility

00:45:05and so

00:45:06I really

00:45:07don't know

00:45:08where this

00:45:10came from

00:45:11I honestly

00:45:11don't know

00:45:12why everyone

00:45:13seems to

00:45:14think

00:45:14you know

00:45:15some of it's

00:45:16connected to

00:45:16Israel

00:45:171948 and

00:45:181967

00:45:19for sure

00:45:20but there are

00:45:21probably people

00:45:22that don't even

00:45:22know Israel's

00:45:23history and

00:45:24maybe people

00:45:25who are

00:45:27who don't

00:45:28believe that

00:45:29Israel has

00:45:29any role

00:45:30that they are

00:45:31not God's

00:45:31clock and

00:45:32calendar

00:45:33that they

00:45:33don't have

00:45:33any role

00:45:34in eschatology

00:45:36I think

00:45:36there are

00:45:37people in

00:45:37that camp

00:45:38who still

00:45:39believe

00:45:39oh I

00:45:40think Jesus

00:45:40will probably

00:45:41come back

00:45:41in my

00:45:42lifetime

00:45:42I'm not

00:45:43I mean

00:45:45I think

00:45:45we should

00:45:45all pray

00:45:47as the

00:45:47New Testament

00:45:48closes

00:45:49with

00:45:49Maranatha

00:45:50come Lord

00:45:51Jesus

00:45:52we want

00:45:53him to

00:45:53come

00:45:54we

00:45:54we want

00:45:55there to

00:45:56be the

00:45:56establishment

00:45:57of the

00:45:57kingdom

00:45:57of God

00:45:58we want

00:45:58the will

00:45:59of God

00:45:59to be

00:45:59done

00:46:00on earth

00:46:00as it

00:46:01is in

00:46:01heaven

00:46:02but why

00:46:03that is

00:46:03necessary

00:46:04to happen

00:46:05during my

00:46:05lifetime

00:46:06I just

00:46:07don't

00:46:07understand

00:46:09I think

00:46:10when

00:46:10when everyone

00:46:11first becomes

00:46:12a Christian

00:46:12maybe you

00:46:13are so

00:46:14excited

00:46:15and enthusiastic

00:46:16about your

00:46:17relationship

00:46:18with the Lord

00:46:18and your

00:46:19walk with the

00:46:19Lord

00:46:20that you're

00:46:20just

00:46:20you just

00:46:21want

00:46:21all things

00:46:22to be

00:46:22fulfilled

00:46:23but as

00:46:24you

00:46:24spend

00:46:25some time

00:46:26in your

00:46:26Christian

00:46:26life

00:46:27you realize

00:46:27a Christian

00:46:28life

00:46:28is

00:46:29it is

00:46:29not a

00:46:30sprint

00:46:30it is

00:46:32a long

00:46:32distance

00:46:33journey

00:46:34and

00:46:35the odds

00:46:36of the

00:46:37Lord

00:46:38coming back

00:46:39during my

00:46:39lifetime

00:46:40I don't

00:46:40even know

00:46:41how to

00:46:41predict

00:46:41what the

00:46:42odds

00:46:42are

00:46:42but I

00:46:43would

00:46:43assume

00:46:44I would

00:46:45just

00:46:45assume

00:46:46you say

00:46:47assume

00:46:48based on

00:46:48what channel

00:46:49with what I'm

00:46:49getting ready

00:46:50I would

00:46:50assume

00:46:51based on

00:46:512000 years

00:46:52of church

00:46:53history

00:46:53I would

00:46:54assume

00:46:54that he

00:46:55probably

00:46:55will not

00:46:56come back

00:46:56during my

00:46:57lifetime

00:46:57it's kind

00:46:58of arrogant

00:46:59it's a

00:47:00little

00:47:00it does

00:47:01John

00:47:01does it

00:47:01not

00:47:01border

00:47:02a little

00:47:02bit

00:47:02on

00:47:03selfishness

00:47:03and arrogance

00:47:04to think

00:47:05that somehow

00:47:05me

00:47:06and you

00:47:07we are

00:47:07we're more

00:47:08important than

00:47:09the people

00:47:09that lived

00:47:10500 years

00:47:10ago

00:47:11and so

00:47:11surely

00:47:12he's got

00:47:12to come

00:47:12back

00:47:13during my

00:47:13lifetime

00:47:14I believe

00:47:15he is

00:47:15literally

00:47:16bodily

00:47:16visibly

00:47:17coming

00:47:17back

00:47:18but I

00:47:19just

00:47:19don't

00:47:19know

00:47:19when

00:47:20you

00:47:20probably

00:47:21didn't

00:47:21catch

00:47:21it

00:47:22in the

00:47:22comments

00:47:22but I've

00:47:22had a few

00:47:23people who

00:47:23tell me

00:47:24John you

00:47:24have a

00:47:24wonderful

00:47:25gift of

00:47:25discernment

00:47:26to which

00:47:27I always

00:47:27respond

00:47:28no man

00:47:29I just

00:47:29simply ask

00:47:30questions

00:47:30I like

00:47:31to ask

00:47:31questions

00:47:32and figure

00:47:32things out

00:47:33it doesn't

00:47:33mean I

00:47:34have a

00:47:34gift

00:47:34of any

00:47:34sort

00:47:36look at

00:47:37it like

00:47:37this

00:47:37I'm

00:47:38standing

00:47:38in my

00:47:38room

00:47:39my

00:47:39five-year-old

00:47:40runs up

00:47:41to me

00:47:41with a

00:47:41tool

00:47:41from my

00:47:42garage

00:47:42and looks

00:47:44at me

00:47:44and the

00:47:45minister

00:47:48and my

00:47:48son is

00:47:49five years

00:47:49old

00:47:49and he

00:47:50says

00:47:50dad

00:47:50I found

00:47:51this hatchet

00:47:51I want

00:47:52to go

00:47:52outside

00:47:52and play

00:47:53with it

00:47:53and the

00:47:54minister

00:47:54says

00:47:54well he's

00:47:55old enough

00:47:56he's strong

00:47:56enough

00:47:57he can hold

00:47:58it

00:47:59so therefore

00:47:59he must be

00:48:00able to go

00:48:00out and play

00:48:01with it

00:48:01and I'm

00:48:01thinking as a

00:48:02dad

00:48:02I know the

00:48:03conclusion

00:48:03of what will

00:48:04happen

00:48:04if he does

00:48:05this

00:48:05and we'll be

00:48:06going to the

00:48:06hospital

00:48:06because I'm

00:48:07looking beyond

00:48:08what I see

00:48:10presently

00:48:10to the

00:48:11consequences

00:48:12that can

00:48:12happen

00:48:12later

00:48:13the

00:48:13problem

00:48:14is

00:48:14people

00:48:15have

00:48:15given

00:48:16just

00:48:16handed

00:48:16over

00:48:17the

00:48:17reins

00:48:17to

00:48:17the

00:48:17minister

00:48:18in

00:48:18the

00:48:18room

00:48:18whatever

00:48:19he wants

00:48:20to say

00:48:21looking at

00:48:21the here

00:48:22and now

00:48:22and not

00:48:23looking at

00:48:23its logical

00:48:24conclusion

00:48:24the reason I

00:48:26say that

00:48:26is this

00:48:28whenever the

00:48:28latter rain

00:48:29movement broke

00:48:29out

00:48:30not long

00:48:31after this

00:48:31they started

00:48:33taking all

00:48:33of these

00:48:33doctrines to

00:48:34their logical

00:48:35conclusion

00:48:35if you're

00:48:36going to go

00:48:37back to the

00:48:37book of

00:48:37Joel

00:48:38well then

00:48:39you have to

00:48:39put us

00:48:40back into

00:48:40the Old

00:48:41Testament

00:48:41if you're

00:48:42going to

00:48:42put us

00:48:42back into

00:48:42the Old

00:48:43Testament

00:48:43and

00:48:44this

00:48:45British

00:48:45Israel

00:48:46theme

00:48:46and

00:48:46restoration

00:48:47theme

00:48:47is

00:48:47part

00:48:48of

00:48:48it

00:48:48well

00:48:49what's

00:48:49he

00:48:50going

00:48:50to

00:48:50restore

00:48:50the

00:48:51old

00:48:51covenant

00:48:51Jews

00:48:52had

00:48:52the

00:48:52feasts

00:48:53so

00:48:53they

00:48:53published

00:48:54the

00:48:54Feast

00:48:54of

00:48:54Tabernacles

00:48:55which

00:48:55led

00:48:55into

00:48:55all

00:48:56kinds

00:48:56of

00:48:56confusion

00:48:57and

00:48:58if

00:48:58you

00:48:58continue

00:48:59down

00:48:59that

00:49:00trail

00:49:00I'm

00:49:00going

00:49:00to

00:49:00stop

00:49:00there

00:49:01because

00:49:01you

00:49:01can

00:49:01go

00:49:01wander

00:49:02off

00:49:02into

00:49:02extremes

00:49:02but

00:49:03if

00:49:03you

00:49:03follow

00:49:04that

00:49:04trail

00:49:04out

00:49:05look

00:49:06at

00:49:06the

00:49:06way

00:49:06the

00:49:06Jews

00:49:06worshipped

00:49:07in

00:49:07that

00:49:08old

00:49:08system

00:49:08it

00:49:09didn't

00:49:10it

00:49:10was

00:49:10different

00:49:11than

00:49:11some

00:49:12of

00:49:12the

00:49:12other

00:49:12religions

00:49:12of

00:49:13the

00:49:13ancient

00:49:13world

00:49:13but

00:49:13in

00:49:13many

00:49:14ways

00:49:14there

00:49:14were

00:49:14similarities

00:49:15that

00:49:15nobody

00:49:15is

00:49:15going

00:49:16to

00:49:16do

00:49:16today

00:49:16you're

00:49:17not

00:49:17going

00:49:17to

00:49:17carry

00:49:17birds

00:49:18up

00:49:18to

00:49:18an

00:49:18altar

00:49:19and

00:49:19burn

00:49:19it

00:49:20and

00:49:21there

00:49:21are

00:49:21passages

00:49:21that

00:49:22says

00:49:22God

00:49:22just

00:49:22really

00:49:23likes

00:49:23the

00:49:23aroma

00:49:23of

00:49:24burnt

00:49:24flesh

00:49:24what

00:49:25Christian

00:49:25is

00:49:25going

00:49:26to

00:49:26do

00:49:26this

00:49:36had

00:49:36to

00:49:36do

00:49:36was

00:49:36they

00:49:37had

00:49:37to

00:49:37nuance

00:49:37it

00:49:38we're

00:49:38going

00:49:38to

00:49:38take

00:49:38these

00:49:40specific

00:49:40things

00:49:40from

00:49:41the

00:49:41old

00:49:41covenant

00:49:41and

00:49:42we're

00:49:42going

00:49:42to

00:49:42restore

00:49:42those

00:49:43but

00:49:43we're

00:49:44under

00:49:44a

00:49:44new

00:49:44covenant

00:49:44so

00:49:45we're

00:49:45going

00:49:45to

00:49:45exclude

00:49:46these

00:49:46others

00:49:46well

00:49:47who

00:49:47gets

00:49:47to

00:49:47decide

00:49:48it's

00:49:48the

00:49:49minister

00:49:49in

00:49:49the

00:49:49room

00:49:49that

00:49:49decides

00:49:50what

00:49:50of

00:49:50the

00:49:50old

00:49:50covenant

00:49:51you

00:49:51keep

00:49:51and

00:49:51what

00:49:52of

00:49:52the

00:49:52new

00:49:52covenant

00:49:52you

00:49:52keep

00:49:53so

00:49:53you've

00:49:53literally

00:49:54just

00:49:54handed

00:50:06and

00:50:06if

00:50:07you're

00:50:07not

00:50:07looking

00:50:08ahead

00:50:08then

00:50:08you're

00:50:09looking

00:50:09either

00:50:09at

00:50:10the

00:50:10minister

00:50:10who's

00:50:10telling

00:50:11you

00:50:11where

00:50:11to

00:50:11look

00:50:11or

00:50:11you've

00:50:12got

00:50:12a

00:50:12mirror

00:50:12and

00:50:12you're

00:50:12looking

00:50:12behind

00:50:13you

00:50:13neither

00:50:14one

00:50:14really

00:50:15work

00:50:15you're

00:50:15going

00:50:15to

00:50:15run

00:50:15into

00:50:16a

00:50:16wall

00:50:16and

00:50:17so

00:50:17what

00:50:18happens

00:50:18when

00:50:19these

00:50:19things

00:50:19don't

00:50:20happen

00:50:20I

00:50:20mean

00:50:21we've

00:50:21been

00:50:21a

00:50:22generation

00:50:23plus

00:50:23since

00:50:241948

00:50:24we've

00:50:25been

00:50:25now

00:50:26another

00:50:27generation

00:50:27plus

00:50:28since

00:50:291967

00:50:30what

00:50:31happens

00:50:31is

00:50:32disillusionment

00:50:36some people

00:50:36are able

00:50:37to be

00:50:37like

00:50:38the

00:50:38white

00:50:39queen

00:50:40and

00:50:40tolerate

00:50:41you know

00:50:41six

00:50:42contradictory

00:50:42things

00:50:43in their

00:50:43mind

00:50:44even

00:50:44before

00:50:44breakfast

00:50:45in the

00:50:45morning

00:50:45but

00:50:46for

00:50:47a lot

00:50:47of

00:50:47people

00:50:47disillusionment

00:50:48sets in

00:50:49especially

00:50:50I think

00:50:50John

00:50:51for those

00:50:51people

00:50:52who were

00:50:52converted

00:50:53under

00:50:54these

00:50:54ministries

00:50:55thankfully

00:50:56I was

00:50:57already

00:50:57a believer

00:50:57several

00:50:58years

00:50:58before

00:50:58I ever

00:50:59heard

00:50:59Hobart

00:51:00Freeman

00:51:00that's

00:51:01not

00:51:01true

00:51:01with

00:51:01everyone

00:51:02some

00:51:02people

00:51:02have

00:51:03actually

00:51:03come

00:51:04to

00:51:04faith

00:51:04in

00:51:04Christ

00:51:05in

00:51:06a

00:51:06Branham

00:51:07setting

00:51:07or

00:51:08in

00:51:08a

00:51:08Freeman

00:51:08setting

00:51:09and

00:51:10so

00:51:10then

00:51:11wow

00:51:12I feel

00:51:12sorry

00:51:12for

00:51:13those

00:51:13people

00:51:13because

00:51:14so

00:51:15much

00:51:15of

00:51:16their

00:51:17Christian

00:51:17life

00:51:18and

00:51:19belief

00:51:19system

00:51:19is

00:51:20tied

00:51:20to

00:51:20that

00:51:21particular

00:51:22ministry

00:51:23and

00:51:23so

00:51:23disillusionment

00:51:24sets in

00:51:25what

00:51:25happens

00:51:26with

00:51:26the

00:51:26people

00:51:26who

00:51:26have

00:51:27taught

00:51:27these

00:51:27things

00:51:28well

00:51:28I

00:51:30think

00:51:30they

00:51:31do

00:51:31several

00:51:32things

00:51:32but

00:51:32they

00:51:33do

00:51:33everything

00:51:33they

00:51:33can

00:51:33to

00:51:34minimize

00:51:34the

00:51:34damage

00:51:35you

00:51:36know

00:51:36as

00:51:36time

00:51:37goes

00:51:37by

00:51:38and

00:51:38as

00:51:38the

00:51:39clock

00:51:39continues

00:51:40to

00:51:40tick

00:51:40to

00:51:41deflect

00:51:42the

00:51:42spotlight

00:51:42and

00:51:43so

00:51:43one

00:51:43of

00:51:43the

00:51:43things

00:51:44they

00:51:44will

00:51:44do

00:51:45and

00:51:45you

00:51:46can

00:51:46trace

00:51:46this

00:51:47out

00:51:47in

00:51:47history

00:51:47they'll

00:51:48simply

00:51:48stop

00:51:49talking

00:51:49about

00:51:50it

00:51:50if

00:51:51you

00:51:51listen

00:51:51to

00:51:51Hobart's

00:51:52taped

00:51:53messages

00:51:53from

00:51:541983

00:51:56verses

00:51:571973

00:51:58guess

00:52:00what

00:52:00he's

00:52:00not

00:52:01talking

00:52:01very

00:52:01much

00:52:02about

00:52:02he's

00:52:03not

00:52:03talking

00:52:03about

00:52:03Israel

00:52:04getting

00:52:04their

00:52:05city

00:52:05back

00:52:05now

00:52:06he

00:52:06did

00:52:06mention

00:52:06it

00:52:07occasionally

00:52:07but

00:52:07it's

00:52:08not

00:52:08on

00:52:09the

00:52:09top

00:52:09of

00:52:09his

00:52:09mind

00:52:10because

00:52:10one

00:52:11of

00:52:11the

00:52:11ways

00:52:12you

00:52:12deal

00:52:13with

00:52:13the

00:52:13fact

00:52:14that

00:52:14a lot

00:52:15of

00:52:15time

00:52:15now

00:52:15has

00:52:16elapsed

00:52:16since

00:52:161948

00:52:17or

00:52:18since

00:52:181967

00:52:19is

00:52:19you

00:52:20stop

00:52:20talking

00:52:20about

00:52:21it

00:52:21another

00:52:22way

00:52:22that

00:52:23many

00:52:23false

00:52:24prophets

00:52:24have

00:52:25handled

00:52:25it

00:52:25is

00:52:25they

00:52:25simply

00:52:26go

00:52:27back

00:52:27and

00:52:27recalculate

00:52:28the

00:52:28dates

00:52:29oh

00:52:30yes

00:52:31I

00:52:31missed

00:52:31that

00:52:32because

00:52:32of

00:52:32this

00:52:33thing

00:52:33I

00:52:34forgot

00:52:34about

00:52:34that

00:52:35and

00:52:35so

00:52:36that's

00:52:37what

00:52:37the

00:52:37Jehovah's

00:52:38witnesses

00:52:38did

00:52:39with

00:52:40Christ

00:52:41entering

00:52:42coming

00:52:43back

00:52:43to

00:52:43earth

00:52:43they

00:52:44said

00:52:44well

00:52:44really

00:52:44he

00:52:44didn't

00:52:45come

00:52:45back

00:52:45to

00:52:45earth

00:52:45but

00:52:45he

00:52:45entered

00:52:46the

00:52:46heavenly

00:52:46sanctuary

00:52:47at

00:52:47that

00:52:48time

00:52:48and

00:52:49that

00:52:49is

00:52:50just

00:52:51false

00:52:51prophecy

00:52:52101

00:52:52anytime

00:52:53something

00:52:54doesn't

00:52:55come

00:52:55to

00:52:55pass

00:52:55I

00:52:56don't

00:52:56know

00:52:56that

00:52:56I

00:52:56even

00:52:56know

00:52:57anybody

00:52:57I

00:52:57really

00:52:57don't

00:52:58know

00:52:58that

00:52:58I

00:52:58know

00:52:58anybody

00:52:59who

00:52:59gave

00:52:59a

00:53:00prophecy

00:53:00it

00:53:00didn't

00:53:00happen

00:53:01and

00:53:01they

00:53:01just

00:53:01stood

00:53:02up

00:53:02and said

00:53:02I'm

00:53:02flat

00:53:02out

00:53:03wrong

00:53:04don't

00:53:04ever

00:53:04trust

00:53:05a

00:53:05prediction

00:53:05of mine

00:53:06again

00:53:06I

00:53:07don't

00:53:07know

00:53:07that

00:53:07anybody's

00:53:08ever

00:53:08done

00:53:08that

00:53:08they

00:53:08will

00:53:09recalculate

00:53:10the

00:53:10dates

00:53:10or

00:53:11they

00:53:11will

00:53:11suggest

00:53:12that

00:53:12the

00:53:12listeners

00:53:14misinterpreted

00:53:14what

00:53:14they

00:53:15meant

00:53:15by

00:53:15what

00:53:16they

00:53:16said

00:53:16you

00:53:17know

00:53:17it's

00:53:18just

00:53:18this

00:53:18never

00:53:19ending

00:53:20stream

00:53:21of

00:53:21attempts

00:53:22to

00:53:22minimize

00:53:23the

00:53:23damage

00:53:24and

00:53:24to

00:53:24deflect

00:53:25the

00:53:25spotlight

00:53:26or

00:53:27they

00:53:27will

00:53:28I've

00:53:29seen

00:53:29some

00:53:29do

00:53:29this

00:53:30they'll

00:53:30cast

00:53:31their

00:53:31prediction

00:53:31in

00:53:32some

00:53:32new

00:53:33form

00:53:33you

00:53:34know

00:53:35it's

00:53:35kind

00:53:36of

00:53:36like

00:53:36it's

00:53:36gone

00:53:36through

00:53:37a

00:53:38metamorphosis

00:53:38process

00:53:39or

00:53:40they'll

00:53:40come

00:53:41along

00:53:41and tell

00:53:41us

00:53:42that

00:53:42and

00:53:42this

00:53:42is

00:53:43maybe

00:53:43the

00:53:43worst

00:53:43of

00:53:44all

00:53:44but

00:53:44this

00:53:44is

00:53:44the

00:53:45easiest

00:53:45way

00:53:46to

00:53:46do

00:53:46it

00:53:46you

00:53:47know

00:53:47stop

00:53:47talking

00:53:47about

00:53:48it

00:53:48recalculate

00:53:49the

00:53:49dates

00:53:51casted

00:53:51in

00:53:51some

00:53:51other

00:53:52form

00:53:52they

00:53:53will

00:53:53they

00:53:54will

00:53:54come

00:53:54and

00:53:55say

00:53:55that

00:53:56God

00:53:56has

00:53:57changed

00:53:58his

00:53:58mind

00:53:59or

00:53:59his

00:53:59plans

00:54:00because

00:54:00things

00:54:01on

00:54:01earth

00:54:01have

00:54:02changed

00:54:02so

00:54:03I

00:54:04mean

00:54:04that's

00:54:04an

00:54:04easy

00:54:05one

00:54:05I

00:54:05mean

00:54:06we

00:54:06could

00:54:07I

00:54:07could

00:54:07predict

00:54:08the

00:54:08second

00:54:08advent

00:54:09tomorrow

00:54:10and

00:54:10then

00:54:11when

00:54:11that

00:54:11doesn't

00:54:11happen

00:54:12just

00:54:13do

00:54:13it

00:54:13for

00:54:13the

00:54:13next

00:54:13day

00:54:14and

00:54:14when

00:54:14that

00:54:14doesn't

00:54:14happen

00:54:14do

00:54:15it

00:54:15next

00:54:15week

00:54:15and

00:54:16say

00:54:16well

00:54:16it's

00:54:16because

00:54:18Ukraine

00:54:19the

00:54:19Soviet

00:54:19Union

00:54:20or

00:54:20communist

00:54:21China

00:54:21or

00:54:22just

00:54:22whatever

00:54:22you

00:54:22want

00:54:23to

00:54:23say

00:54:24and

00:54:25it's

00:54:25so

00:54:25interesting

00:54:26with

00:54:26Hobart

00:54:27Freeman

00:54:27he

00:54:28did

00:54:28not

00:54:28continue

00:54:29to

00:54:29talk

00:54:30about

00:54:30the

00:54:31six

00:54:31day

00:54:31war

00:54:32like

00:54:32he

00:54:33did

00:54:33in

00:54:33the

00:54:33late

00:54:3360s

00:54:34and

00:54:34early

00:54:3470s

00:54:35because

00:54:35you

00:54:36know

00:54:36the

00:54:37clock

00:54:37is

00:54:37going

00:54:37tick

00:54:38tick

00:54:38you've

00:54:39got

00:54:39all

00:54:39this

00:54:39time

00:54:40when

00:54:40I

00:54:40look

00:54:40back

00:54:41on

00:54:41other

00:54:41prophecies

00:54:42he

00:54:42gave

00:54:42we

00:54:43have

00:54:43played

00:54:43the

00:54:44prophecy

00:54:44that

00:54:47in

00:54:47law

00:54:47Bruce

00:54:48Kinsey

00:54:49in

00:54:50the

00:54:50early

00:54:50to

00:54:51mid

00:54:5170s

00:54:51that

00:54:52Bruce

00:54:52Kinsey

00:54:52was

00:54:52going

00:54:52to

00:54:53be

00:54:53a

00:54:53prophet

00:54:53and

00:54:54he

00:54:54was

00:54:54going

00:54:54to

00:54:55preach

00:54:55to

00:54:55the

00:54:56Gentile

00:54:57yay

00:54:57saith

00:54:58the

00:54:58Lord

00:54:58even

00:54:59unto

00:54:59the

00:54:59Jews

00:54:59you

00:55:00will

00:55:00be

00:55:00a

00:55:00prophet

00:55:02you

00:55:03know

00:55:03Bruce

00:55:03was

00:55:04never

00:55:04a

00:55:04prophet

00:55:05you

00:55:05know

00:55:05Bruce

00:55:06and

00:55:06Hobart

00:55:06ended

00:55:07up

00:55:07on

00:55:07opposite

00:55:08ends

00:55:08of

00:55:09the

00:55:10theological

00:55:10issues

00:55:11and

00:55:12were

00:55:12at

00:55:13odds

00:55:13and

00:55:13at

00:55:13war

00:55:14with

00:55:14one

00:55:14another

00:55:17place

00:55:17where

00:55:17Hobart

00:55:18would

00:55:18use

00:55:18the

00:55:19ladder

00:55:19of

00:55:19the

00:55:20ways

00:55:21to

00:55:21change

00:55:21matters

00:55:22and

00:55:22say

00:55:22well

00:55:22God

00:55:22changed

00:55:23his

00:55:23mind

00:55:23because

00:55:24Bruce

00:55:25no

00:55:25longer

00:55:25accepts

00:55:26me

00:55:26as

00:55:26God's

00:55:27prophet

00:55:27you

00:55:28know

00:55:29just

00:55:29whenever

00:55:31people

00:55:32come out

00:55:33with these

00:55:33prophecies

00:55:34everyone

00:55:34should

00:55:35I

00:55:35wouldn't

00:55:36even

00:55:36say

00:55:36beware

00:55:37I

00:55:37would

00:55:37just

00:55:37say

00:55:38discount

00:55:38them

00:55:38just

00:55:39discount

00:55:40them

00:55:40why

00:55:41aren't

00:55:41we

00:55:42after

00:55:42all

00:55:42these

00:55:42years

00:55:43we

00:55:43I

00:55:44say

00:55:44we

00:55:44Christian

00:55:44people

00:55:45why

00:55:45aren't

00:55:45we

00:55:46immune

00:55:46we

00:55:47should

00:55:47have

00:55:47some

00:55:48type

00:55:48of

00:55:48built

00:55:48in

00:55:49immunity

00:55:50to

00:55:51this

00:55:51kind

00:55:52of

00:55:52garbage

00:55:52and

00:55:52I'm

00:55:53not

00:55:53saying

00:55:53that

00:55:54someone

00:55:54can't

00:55:55have

00:55:55some

00:55:57word

00:55:58some

00:55:58prediction

00:55:59but I

00:55:59will

00:55:59guarantee

00:56:00or let

00:56:01me

00:56:01just

00:56:01say

00:56:01this

00:56:02is

00:56:02what

00:56:02I

00:56:02believe

00:56:03no

00:56:03one's

00:56:03going

00:56:03to

00:56:04know

00:56:04the

00:56:04second

00:56:04advent

00:56:05no

00:56:05one's

00:56:05going

00:56:05to

00:56:05be

00:56:05able

00:56:06to

00:56:06predict

00:56:07that

00:56:08that's

00:56:08not

00:56:08going

00:56:09to

00:56:09happen

00:56:09in

00:56:09my

00:56:09opinion

00:56:10I

00:56:11would

00:56:11say

00:56:11I'm

00:56:11definitely

00:56:12100%

00:56:13immune

00:56:14to

00:56:16any

00:56:17book

00:56:17or

00:56:17any

00:56:18sermon

00:56:18that

00:56:18comes

00:56:19out

00:56:19where

00:56:20this

00:56:20brilliant

00:56:21person

00:56:22has

00:56:22figured

00:56:23anything

00:56:23out

00:56:23or

00:56:24even

00:56:24if

00:56:25it's

00:56:25not

00:56:25so

00:56:25obvious

00:56:26as

00:56:27that

00:56:27John

00:56:27let me

00:56:29just

00:56:29close

00:56:29with

00:56:29one

00:56:30other

00:56:31part

00:56:32of

00:56:32Luke

00:56:3221

00:56:33that

00:56:33just

00:56:33came

00:56:34to

00:56:34my

00:56:34mind

00:56:35something

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00:56:37back

00:56:37when

00:56:37I

00:56:37was

00:56:38young

00:56:38in

00:56:39my

00:56:39Christian

00:56:39life

00:56:40we

00:56:40know

00:56:40in

00:56:41the

00:56:41Olivet

00:56:41Discourse

00:56:42Jesus

00:56:42predicts

00:56:43that

00:56:43there

00:56:43will

00:56:44be

00:56:44people

00:56:44who

00:56:44come

00:56:45claiming

00:56:46him

00:56:47claiming

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00:56:48claiming

00:56:48that

00:56:49he

00:56:49said

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00:56:50claiming

00:56:50these

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00:56:51and

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00:56:51does

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00:56:57another

00:56:58thing

00:56:58that

00:56:59is

00:56:59not

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00:57:00in

00:57:00Luke

00:57:0221

00:57:02and

00:57:03I

00:57:03think

00:57:03verse

00:57:048

00:57:04where

00:57:06he

00:57:06said

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00:57:07those

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00:57:08only

00:57:08who

00:57:08come

00:57:08and

00:57:08claim

00:57:09that

00:57:09they're

00:57:09Christ

00:57:10he

00:57:11said

00:57:11beware

00:57:12of

00:57:12those

00:57:12who

00:57:13come

00:57:13and

00:57:16that's

00:57:17in Luke

00:57:1721

00:57:18beware

00:57:18of

00:57:19those

00:57:19it's

00:57:19not

00:57:19just

00:57:20those

00:57:20who

00:57:20claim

00:57:21Hobart

00:57:21would

00:57:22never

00:57:22have

00:57:22claimed

00:57:23that

00:57:23he's

00:57:23Christ

00:57:24or

00:57:24claimed

00:57:24this

00:57:25but

00:57:25he

00:57:25did

00:57:26come

00:57:26and

00:57:26say

00:57:27what

00:57:27this

00:57:28is

00:57:28the

00:57:29time

00:57:29what

00:57:30time

00:57:30this

00:57:30is

00:57:30the

00:57:31time

00:57:31of

00:57:31the

00:57:31second

00:57:32advent

00:57:32this

00:57:32is

00:57:33the

00:57:33time

00:57:33of

00:57:33the

00:57:33end

00:57:34days

00:57:34we

00:57:34are

00:57:35living

00:57:35in

00:57:35it

00:57:35this

00:57:35is

00:57:36it

00:57:36this

00:57:36is

00:57:36it

00:57:37and

00:57:38that's

00:57:38one

00:57:38of

00:57:38the

00:57:38things

00:57:39in

00:57:39Luke's

00:57:40account

00:57:40of

00:57:40Jesus

00:57:41discussion

00:57:41where

00:57:42he

00:57:43warns

00:57:43us

00:57:43beware

00:57:45of

00:57:45people

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00:57:46come

00:57:46and

00:57:46say

00:57:47this

00:57:47is

00:57:48the

00:57:48time

00:57:48that's

00:57:49right

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00:57:49the

00:57:50Olivet

00:57:50discourse

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00:57:51it's

00:57:51always

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00:57:53you

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00:57:53I

00:57:53often

00:57:54discuss

00:57:55together

00:57:55John

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00:57:56they

00:57:56just

00:57:56cherry

00:57:57pick

00:57:58Luke

00:57:5821

00:57:5924

00:57:59take

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00:58:00out

00:58:00of

00:58:00its

00:58:01context

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00:58:01even

00:58:02interpret

00:58:02it

00:58:02correctly

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00:58:03even

00:58:03interpret

00:58:04it

00:58:04in

00:58:05light

00:58:05of

00:58:05Daniel

00:58:05don't

00:58:06even

00:58:06read

00:58:07Revelation

00:58:0811

00:58:092

00:58:09misinterpret

00:58:10it

00:58:10but

00:58:11right

00:58:11there

00:58:12before

00:58:12he

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00:58:13into

00:58:13the

00:58:14discourse

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00:58:15warns

00:58:15us

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00:58:16people

00:58:16who

00:58:16come

00:58:17and

00:58:17say

00:58:17now

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00:58:21the

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00:58:22this

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00:58:22the

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00:58:23that

00:58:24would

00:58:24be

00:58:24my

00:58:24warning

00:58:25to

00:58:25everyone

00:58:26that

00:58:26we

00:58:26should

00:58:26all

00:58:27take

00:58:27heed

00:58:28to

00:58:28Jesus

00:58:28warning

00:58:29and

00:58:29just

00:58:29be

00:58:29careful

00:58:30of

00:58:30any

00:58:30minister

00:58:31even

00:58:32in

00:58:32our

00:58:32own

00:58:32local

00:58:33church

00:58:33who

00:58:34stands

00:58:34up

00:58:34and

00:58:34said

00:58:36I

00:58:36just

00:58:39beware

00:58:39of

00:58:40those

00:58:40people

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00:58:41end

00:58:41by

00:58:42stepping

00:58:42on

00:58:42some

00:58:42more

00:58:43toes

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00:58:43make

00:58:43everybody

00:58:44else

00:58:44who's

00:58:44not

00:58:44yet

00:58:44mad

00:58:45at

00:58:45me

00:58:45a

00:58:45little

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00:58:46angry

00:58:46I'm

00:58:47a

00:58:47big

00:58:47fan

00:58:47of

00:58:48satire

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00:58:49understand

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00:58:50and

00:58:50there

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00:58:50people

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00:58:51just

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00:58:51uptight

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00:58:52understand

00:58:52the

00:58:53purpose

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00:58:53satire

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00:58:54satire

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00:58:55a

00:58:55comedy

00:58:56that

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00:58:58sometimes

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00:58:59will

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00:58:59a

00:58:59comedy

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00:59:00things

00:59:09he's

00:59:10contemporary

00:59:10to

00:59:11Jesus

00:59:11and

00:59:11he's

00:59:11continually

00:59:12being

00:59:13branded

00:59:13as

00:59:14a

00:59:14messiah

00:59:14and

00:59:15he

00:59:15doesn't

00:59:15want

00:59:15it

00:59:15but

00:59:16it

00:59:16walks

00:59:16you

00:59:16through

00:59:17all

00:59:17these

00:59:17biblical

00:59:17scenes

00:59:18and

00:59:18what's

00:59:18funny

00:59:19is

00:59:19when

00:59:20I

00:59:20first

00:59:20watched

00:59:20it

00:59:20I

00:59:20was

00:59:21so

00:59:21uncomfortable

00:59:21because

00:59:22I

00:59:22thought

00:59:22that's

00:59:22sacrilegious

00:59:23but

00:59:23the

00:59:24more

00:59:24I

00:59:24got

00:59:25into

00:59:25the

00:59:25movie

00:59:25I

00:59:26started

00:59:26reading

00:59:26as

00:59:27I'm

00:59:27watching

00:59:27some

00:59:28of

00:59:28the

00:59:28history

00:59:28and

00:59:29I'm

00:59:29learning

00:59:29things

00:59:29that

00:59:30I

00:59:30just

00:59:30simply

00:59:30didn't

00:59:30know

00:59:31and

00:59:31the

00:59:31satire

00:59:31was

00:59:31causing

00:59:32me

00:59:32to

00:59:32think

00:59:33because

00:59:33that's

00:59:33how

00:59:34satire

00:59:34is

00:59:34intended

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00:59:35causes

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00:59:35to

00:59:35think

00:59:36well

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00:59:36this

00:59:37one

00:59:37scene

00:59:37that

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00:59:39it's

00:59:40the

00:59:40sermon

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00:59:40the

00:59:40mount

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00:59:41Jesus

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00:59:41saying

00:59:42blessed

00:59:42are

00:59:42the

00:59:42peacemakers

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00:59:44it

00:59:44gives

00:59:44you

00:59:44the

00:59:44big

00:59:45broad

00:59:45scene

00:59:45so

00:59:46if

00:59:46you

00:59:46scope

00:59:46out

00:59:47how

00:59:47many

00:59:47thousands

00:59:48of

00:59:48people

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00:59:49been

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00:59:49and

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00:59:50Jesus

00:59:50is

00:59:50this

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01:00:02I'm

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01:00:05cheesemakers

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01:00:06doctrine

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01:00:09what's

01:00:09happening

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01:00:11it

01:00:11somebody

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01:00:13misinterprets

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01:00:35Messiah

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01:00:40the

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01:00:41you

01:00:41feel

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01:00:42but

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01:00:44with

01:00:44that

01:00:44blessed

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01:00:45the

01:00:45cheesemakers

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