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Willard and Dibs debate if Brock Purdy is the face of the NFL through three weeks of the NFL season.
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00:00Victory Monday, and oh, by the way, that little dude,
00:04the little guy with the one and the three.
00:07Rock parody.
00:08The last pick in the draft is the biggest, baddest dude on the planet right now.
00:14Jump passes on the sideline.
00:16What are we doing, dude?
00:17Just to avoid getting sacked.
00:20I don't want to be sacked.
00:21I don't want to lose yards here, so I'm just going to, I don't know,
00:24I'm running out of room here.
00:25I have an idea.
00:26I'll jump out of bounds and just huck it, and turns out he might have completed it.
00:32Shanahan today, I'm reading the transcript, and he's like, you know,
00:35we saw the replay and stuff, and it turns out we might have been able to challenge it,
00:40but I don't know if they would have overturned it,
00:42but the very fact that that was actually kind of completed maybe
00:46is even more ridiculous than the fact that he jumped out of bounds to throw it.
00:50Hey, correct me if I'm wrong, both of you or anybody watching,
00:56the jump pass, and then they don't challenge.
00:59Was the very next play the Evans hook and ladder to D-Ball?
01:07Was it the very next play?
01:09I don't think so, but I'll double check.
01:12You don't look up the play chart.
01:12How many plays?
01:13Yeah, that was the opening drive, and they come out, false start McKivitts.
01:17Right.
01:18Incomplete to Evans, and then CMC for three, then it was the hook and lateral.
01:23Okay, so the jump pass was later.
01:25Second drive.
01:26Got it.
01:26Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
01:27Yeah, it was a first and 10 play from the 20.
01:30I have it here.
01:30Jump for Ferrell.
01:32Jump Ferrell.
01:33Jump Ferrell.
01:33One of my notes.
01:34So that was the second drive, which also culminated with a touchdown.
01:39And that was the one that he threw to Mike Evans,
01:41where the defensive back never even turned around,
01:44and Brock just threw it like right over his shoulder.
01:46Yeah.
01:47On the, I think Shanahan called it a slug-o, slant and go.
01:50And, yeah, Evans was the only one looking at Brock Purdy.
01:54I wonder how everyone's feeling about that, though.
01:57Like, I know that, like, for me, I don't want to do, the MVP conversation,
02:02it's too early.
02:03Okay, we're three games in, so I'd like to phrase it a different way.
02:09And 49er fans, how are you feeling about this description?
02:15Rather than saying he's a busy, you know, the MV Purdy,
02:20instead of doing that three weeks in, what about just through three weeks,
02:25this is the dude in the NFL.
02:27I think he's the guy.
02:29And I know that, you know, everybody's going to define that a different way.
02:34I don't, I'm not trying to tell you he's better than Josh Allen,
02:37and I'm not trying to tell you he's more accomplished than Patrick Mahomes.
02:40I'm telling you I think he's the most talked-about player in the NFL
02:43so far through three weeks.
02:45I think he's been the most effective player in the NFL through three weeks.
02:48I'm going to give Jackson Smith and Jigba, like, one and one A.
02:52I don't know what the hell you do to stop that guy.
02:54That guy is three touchdowns and 40 fantasy points every time he puts cleats on.
03:00So he's incredible.
03:02These two will see each other in 13 days in Seattle.
03:06So that's going to be awesome.
03:08But that's what I'm talking about.
03:10This is the most talked-about player.
03:12This is the most effective player.
03:14This is, through three weeks, the face of the league this year.
03:21Well, he's the quarterback of a team that's 3-0,
03:23and so you look at the other quarterbacks who are also 3-0,
03:26and if you just want to look at, forget the eye test,
03:29because we watch all of his snaps repeatedly, but just look at the stats.
03:33He is tied for the lead in touchdowns thrown.
03:36He's leading in touchdown percentage.
03:39What percent of your throws go for touchdowns?
03:41He's first in average air yards per attempt and quarterback rating,
03:47and his sack percentage is 0.00.
03:50So if you want to look at all of the things in which he leads the league,
03:54there's a number of them, and also there's 3-0.
03:57So hard to look at him and say he's not the dude.
04:00And you mentioned Jackson Smith and Jigba.
04:03Absolutely.
04:03He's on the short list as well, and Derek Henry is having a monster season as well.
04:08But when you're the quarterback of an undefeated team,
04:11and you're putting up the numbers and doing the things he's doing,
04:14even with yesterday's game, he fell all the way down, Mark, to 72.3% completion
04:20with a game that was not his finest, but he's at 72.3%.
04:26It's amazing.
04:28His quarterback rating at this hour is 133.1%.
04:33Right.
04:34Okay.
04:35Drew Locke is actually second, though he has only played a game and three quarters.
04:41Jackson Dart is third.
04:43He has played a game and two plays, or whatever that was.
04:47Jared Goff comes in as the next full-time QB at 116.1,
04:53Lamar Jackson 113.1.
04:55He is way ahead of everyone.
04:58He has set a record.
05:00I think this is not rating.
05:02This is more QBR.
05:03His QBR of 93.8 obliterates anything that's ever happened
05:10through the first three games of a season by anyone ever.
05:13Like, this is unprecedented stuff.
05:16And he is another, how many attempts?
05:1929 pass attempts?
05:2140-something, I think.
05:22Tim Kawakami has picked up the bit, and he actually shared that on Twitter.
05:26I think it's 40-something.
05:28I'll have it for you shortly.
05:29No, I meant 29, yesterday.
05:30How many pass attempts did he have yesterday?
05:32Oh, yesterday was.
05:33Was it 27, 29?
05:34What was it?
05:35Yesterday was 27.
05:37Okay, 27 pass attempts.
05:39So, he is now, I mean, based on where we're going,
05:42this should happen in Seattle in two weeks.
05:44Brock Purdy will become the highest-rate quarterback
05:47who's ever put a uniform on.
05:49He needs 64 pass attempts.
05:51Okay, so probably the week after.
05:53Could be.
05:53It's probably not Seattle.
05:54In fact, it better not be Seattle.
05:56If he throws 32 times per game over the next two weeks,
06:00something went wrong.
06:02But week six, on a Monday night, against the Washington Commanders,
06:07Brock Purdy is slated to become the highest-rated quarterback
06:09who's ever lived.
06:09And even at yesterday's game, I mean, 12 incompletes on the day,
06:15he had four touchdowns of his 15 passes that were thrown and caught.
06:20Four of them were for touchdowns.
06:21So, that's how you go ahead and inflate that quarterback rating.
06:24His confidence is so high right now.
06:27He is dropping back.
06:28You can feel it.
06:29As he is in complete control of everything,
06:33the confidence that others are showing in him is through the roof.
06:38Statistically, it's all there.
06:40Wins and losses, it's all there.
06:42Swagger, it's all there.
06:44He is the face of the league through three weeks.
06:48That's how I feel.
06:49And I know the haters that are out there.
06:52I mean, the funny stuff all comes in.
06:55Was it Portnoy, the barstool dude?
06:58He's like, yeah, I'd still take Drake May over Brock Purdy.
07:01Good for you.
07:02There's always hilarious takes.
07:04510, I see you texting in.
07:06He's the most talked about LOL.
07:09I don't know what you watch or dial into.
07:11He's the most talked about, and that's nationally.
07:14I'm not talking about locally.
07:15And the very next text is, he hasn't played anyone this season.
07:18He played the Rams.
07:20He played the Super Bowl,
07:22one of the most unprecedented Super Bowl favorites in league history.
07:26And he pantsed them.
07:28In a different country.
07:30So, like, I just, the beauty of now is you don't even really need to respond to the haters that
07:37are out there.
07:38Their ammo has been stripped.
07:41You have a barrel, like an empty barrel.
07:48Your chamber's got nothing in it.
07:51If you have anything to say about Brock, not this, not that, not the other.
07:55Don't like his arm.
07:56Don't like his height.
07:58You're out of ammo completely.
08:02And so, I just, that's how it feels right now.
08:07Like, he's easily, easily been the most discussed player in the NFL, in a national NFL media environment.
08:17I don't find it very close, to be honest with you.
08:19Well, I think Mahomes would be another.
08:21And, you know, Josh Allen has always talked about a lot.
08:24And even with yesterday, yesterday's game, he threw two picks.
08:28He had a fumble.
08:29They turned it over five times.
08:30And they still won the football game.
08:32And Josh Allen, if you look at the all-time list in the NFL of rushing touchdowns, he, I think
08:39he just went by Marshawn Lynch.
08:40He's now, he's closing in on 100 rushing touchdowns.
08:45He's going to, when he retires, he might go down as second or third all-time in rushing touchdowns.
08:50And he's a quarterback.
08:51It's ridiculous how potent he is with his legs.
08:54And you mentioned other candidates for the dude who is that dude right now through three weeks.
09:00And Derrick Henry is off to an amazing start.
09:03And also, Kenneth Walker III landing in Kansas City and turning that team into a completely dynamic offense.
09:10No doubt.
09:10No doubt.
09:10Walker's been awesome.
09:12Derrick Henry, I probably should have him on the list of five.
09:15Jackson Smith and Jigba, no question.
09:17Obviously, there's always a bias toward quarterbacks when we're talking about who is sort of running the league.
09:23And Mahomes and Allen and Purdy are all 3-0.
09:27And statistically, I would say, I mean, Purdy is ahead of both of them.
09:32Allen is certainly there.
09:34Mahomes, because of the presence of Walker, his numbers are nice.
09:38But they're not quite as gaudy because the Chiefs have been running the ball down people's throats.
09:43And Walker's been awesome.
09:45But those are the guys right now.
09:47And it doesn't matter if you've got Purdy in the one hole or the three hole or the five hole
09:52or whatever.
09:52He's a superstar.
09:53He's an absolute superstar right now in this league.
10:00And the Niners' offense is doing so many of the things that people have asked it to do, which is,
10:07hey, Brock, what about when the defense isn't good?
10:10Hey, Brock, what about when Christian McCaffrey's not dynamic?
10:14Hey, Brock, what happens when you lose your Avenger-wide receivers?
10:18Well, all of these things have happened.
10:21And all the Niners have done with that so far is lead the league in point differential and average 33
10:28points in outing.
10:29That's all they've done.
10:31So, like, there you have it.
10:33Like, this is what people have been asking Purdy to do, and he's doing it.
10:38Let's go to Skills in Vallejo.
10:40Skills, thanks for calling.
10:41What's up?
10:43Hey, thanks for having me, Willard and Dibbs.
10:45Greetings.
10:45How do I sound this time?
10:47You sound perfect, man.
10:48I'm glad you called back.
10:50Excellent.
10:51All right.
10:52Well, basically, the points I want to make, I want to put half of this call, I want to talk
10:56about the injuries.
10:57And then the other half of the call, I want to use to talk about a couple points made from
11:02the game
11:02and then drop a little bit of trivia on you, if that's okay.
11:05All right, man.
11:06Absolutely.
11:08All right.
11:09Well, basically, the Morning Rose has a phone line called the Sound Off.
11:13You can leave messages, talk about whatever.
11:15You may know that.
11:16And I called them a couple weeks ago, and basically, I was losing my mind.
11:19When the scribbling injuries and him and his teammates happened, I was losing my mind.
11:23Could not go through it again.
11:25Could not go through another year of injuries like in 2025.
11:28Can't play with them.
11:29Can't win with them.
11:31Can't do it.
11:32So, even yesterday.
11:34Can't say, oh, thanks.
11:36As the Niners, they pulled out a win that was kind of on the thrilling side.
11:40May not have been so thrilling if all the guys hadn't gone down.
11:43But I'm still troubled by all the carnage from the game.
11:46Well, there it is.
11:47I mean, we ended up with, at least I was more troubled earlier today.
11:51But now we've gotten better news on Evans.
11:53And then Trill Williams went down.
11:54He came back on the sideline.
11:55He was just kind of maintaining order there.
11:57But I hear the news on him is not bad.
11:59Not terrible either.
12:00So, I'm a little encouraged.
12:01But still, I cannot go through this again.
12:02And I have another year with our players going in and out of the lineup.
12:06That's enough about that.
12:08I want to highlight, real quick, two plays from Purdy.
12:12Which, when we talk about Purdy's career after it's over, we're going to look back on all the different things
12:16he's done.
12:16And these two plays won't even be included because they didn't technically count.
12:19His jump throw out of bounds to Farrell, of course, which you guys are talking about.
12:23And, of course, the late scramble, which was waved off by Kittle's alleged holding penalty, which, in hindsight, looks like
12:29Kittle did that to help his fantasy football owners.
12:31But I digress.
12:35And the last point I'll make, there's a little bit of trivia.
12:39Jacoby Bursette threw 52 passes last night, which are his second most in his entire career, behind the 50-70
12:44through last season against the 49ers.
12:46And then I'm seeing the box score with Deebo Samuel having zero receptions for 80 yards.
12:51It looks so off.
12:52And maybe think a little bit about baseball.
12:54And it turns out that there's a record of three RBI for someone with no official at-bats.
12:59And David Ortiz shares that record.
13:00The other guy does.
13:01I'm not going to bore you with who it.
13:02Or the other guy, you've never heard of him.
13:03I'm not going to bore you with who that is.
13:04Okay.
13:05But that's basically what I wanted to say.
13:06Have a good one.
13:07Okay.
13:07Skills, thank you very much.
13:08I can only imagine that that was, what, three bases-loaded walks in a game or something like that?
13:13Sac-flies, right.
13:14Yeah.
13:14Perfect.
13:14Or, you know, suicide squeezes it.
13:16Probably not with David Ortiz.
13:18I would imagine that the big poppy.
13:20Squeezing it off.
13:21That's just, it's wild when you look at the box score and it's Deebo Samuel, zero targets, zero receptions, 80
13:27yards.
13:28There you have it.
13:29And a touchdown.
13:30Never throwing the ball.
13:31Right.
13:32How many targets does he have this year?
13:34I don't feel like they're throwing Deebo the ball very much.
13:38You know, Deebo, and I get it.
13:40Swiss Army knife.
13:40He's moving around.
13:41He's an option in all kinds of, you know, sort of different ways in the pass game and in the
13:48run game.
13:49Deebo Samuel this year has nine receptions.
13:53Gosh, where's his target list, though?
13:57I need to get this.
14:00Deebo has been targeted this year 11 times.
14:03Which I guess, actually, that's a rather high number considering that he had none yesterday.
14:08So, I guess it was five and a half a game for the first two weeks.
14:11Yeah, and a couple of carries yesterday.
14:12And if you look at, like, McCaffrey's got 17 targets.
14:15You've got 16 for Kittle, 16 for Evans, 11 for Deebo.
14:20This is exactly what Shanahan wants.
14:22If you go back to the last time they went to the Super Bowl, the targets and the catches were
14:27equally distributed between Deebo and Ayuk and McCaffrey and Kittle.
14:31And I think that this, honestly, is what Shanahan wants.
14:34And, yeah, you want Demarcus Robinson healthy so he can be a part of the committee as well.
14:39But he wants to share the load, and that's what they've done so far.
14:42No question about it.
14:43And fun fact, Deebo Samuel has more receiving yards than Mike Evans so far this year.
14:47How about that?
14:48Wow.
14:48Yeah, considering how good Evans has been.
14:51Are you comfortable with that word, though?
14:54Like, to me, maybe that's what these three games have been for Brock Purdy, the fans, the narrative, and the
15:03discussion around him.
15:04I think for a long time there was the whole draftism thing.
15:10It was well before this year that the majority of football watchers, certainly, in my opinion, those who are being
15:18fair and know what they're watching, they got to a point where they're like, Brock's good.
15:23Brock's good.
15:24But I think that this year what it feels like is Brock's a superstar.
15:30You comfortable with that word?
15:32Sure.
15:33I mean, it's just a word.
15:34Well, no, it's not.
15:36It has meaning in sports.
15:38It does, but you can be a superstar.
15:41And in football, if you're the quarterback and you're the superstar, well, then you have to continue to go out
15:46there and be good.
15:48Like Justin Herbert, I think you could look at a year or even two ago and say, well, he's a
15:54superstar.
15:55Maybe he's a superstar in the making.
15:56And since then, he has struggled and they struggle.
16:00And now, all of a sudden, that team is in disarray.
16:03So, I don't know.
16:04You look at Mahomes.
16:06He's a superstar.
16:07And you can't un-mint that.
16:09No, for sure.
16:10He's going to get to a spot where his career will be over.
16:12He'll decline, et cetera.
16:13But Brock Purdy is in a spot where, yes, he's a superstar.
16:17Yeah.
16:18Like, I get what you're saying, and I think you're right.
16:20The Mahomes thing, you get to a certain spot where you've achieved enough to where now it's like we can't
16:25take the label from you.
16:26But Herbert, they wanted to give him the label, and now people are taking it away from him.
16:30Brock is in the same spot.
16:31He can't go through a prolonged three-year period of mediocrity or suckage and be 0-3, largely when the
16:39team around you is healthy.
16:40And with, you know, an accomplished coach and an accomplished offensive coordinator and all of these things, you can't do
16:47that.
16:48So, I'm with you.
16:49The label can get taken away, but it's there for now.
16:52It's there.
16:53He's a superstar.
16:54Look at him.
16:56Look at these numbers.
16:57This is out of control.
16:59It's actually the opposite.
17:00It's totally under control.
17:01That's how he looks.
17:02He's in total control of the football game right now.
17:04Well, and even at yesterday's game, and you look at the numbers, 15 for 27, not terrific, and 297.
17:12Well, 82 of those came on the hook and lateral.
17:15So, beyond that, he had about 200 yards elsewhere, but four touchdowns.
17:20And you look at what he's able to do with his legs, effectively rushing two times for 34 yards.
17:28One of them was a touchdown run.
17:30One of them got called back because of a hold.
17:32He's making the plays that are necessary.
17:34He's playing winning football.
17:36Yeah, and I'm not going to get too in the weeds on a day of completion percentage, especially because he
17:43went 20 of 22 last week.
17:45His individual game QB rating yesterday was 133.8.
17:50That's off the charts.
17:51So, he was phenomenal yesterday.
17:53When you have four touchdown passes, you don't turn the ball over.
17:56You average 11 yards per attempt.
17:59Those are beyond elite numbers.
18:02And the numbers are padded by the 82-yard play.
18:05Yeah, but that's life in the NFL.
18:07You know what I mean?
18:09We don't do that when Josh Allen dumps the ball to James Cook and he takes off.
18:14That's part of football.
18:15You get those.
18:16Patrick Mahomes gets those.
18:18Everybody gets those.
18:19Patrick Mahomes has a shovel pass to Travis Kelsey that's one foot long, and he gets a touchdown pass out
18:24of it.
18:24That's okay.
18:27Again, like, it's not just the numbers.
18:31It's 33 points a game.
18:33It's kind of all looking repetitive and similar every single time he goes out there.
18:40The ball security is elite.
18:42We wanted him without Christian McCaffrey just taking over.
18:47We wanted him to be more effective in the red zone.
18:50Take a look at those numbers.
18:51I haven't even done the deep dive on that yet.
18:54What's their red zone percentage so far this year?
18:57It's got to be damn near perfect.
18:59I think they've only not scored once, if memory serves.
19:02I mean, Pinheiro's not kicking field goals.
19:04Right, and I actually did this when I did my notes because I had them as 3-for-3 yesterday
19:10in the red zone,
19:11and then I checked the official stats, and they were only 2-for-2.
19:14Apparently, you have to be inside the 20.
19:16Yes.
19:17Not at the 20.
19:18Oh, 2-the-20 is not.
19:20You've got to be inside the 20.
19:22That's not red zone?
19:22So, yesterday, the final touchdown, they got to the 20.
19:27It was 2-and-10 from the 20.
19:29Kittle goes for 20.
19:31Touchdown.
19:31Not a red zone touchdown.
19:33So, I had to amend my notes.
19:35I think they're 8-for-9 on the year.
19:37You are correct.
19:38And I'm looking at it now.
19:39Do you remember the one time they went inside the 20 and didn't score a touchdown?
19:45I think it was against Miami?
19:48It was against the Rams, then.
19:50Opening drive.
19:51Opening drive.
19:52Oh, yeah, because they got down to the 4.
19:53Yep, and kicked a field goal.
19:54Yep.
19:54Opening drive.
19:55That's it.
19:56That's it.
19:57They are dead perfect at Levi's Stadium.
20:00When they go into the red zone, they go into the end zone.
20:02And they're 8-for-9, right, on the year?
20:04Is that correct?
20:05Okay.
20:05Yeah.
20:052-for-3 on the road and 5-for-5 at home.
20:10And, obviously, there are more touchdowns.
20:12Ones like Debo yesterday where you don't do the red zone.
20:15Yep.
20:16Didn't need it.
20:17Or Demarcus Robinson in Australia didn't need the red zone.
20:20And even, like yesterday, the Mike Evans was a 23-yarder, not in the red zone.
20:25Correct.
20:25And the last one, George Kittle, from the 20, I had it down as the red zone.
20:30Because, you see, I make these red marks to indicate the red zone.
20:34And I was like, they're 3-for-3.
20:35And I checked the stats.
20:37They're 2-for-2.
20:37And I was like, you know what?
20:38I guess you have to be at the 19-yard line and 2 feet.
20:41The 19-and-a-half.
20:42You've got to be inside the 20, not at the 20.
20:44So, there you have it.
20:45By the way, Purdy getting a lot of credit for that beautiful throw to Evans in the corner of the
20:49end zone.
20:49I want to give as much credit to Mike as Brock.
20:52Because Evans did something so subtle on that play.
20:55That turned it into a touchdown.
20:57Which is, he just kept his arms right by his side until the ball was there.
21:01The defender never had a chance to realize the ball was coming.
21:03It zips right over his head.
21:05If he had put his arms up, he totally would have blocked it.
21:08But he had no idea the ball was coming.
21:09And that's credit to Evans on that.
21:11That's what makes him a Hall of Fame receiver.
21:13Yeah, and that and the route.
21:15Because having read the transcript from Shanahan today.
21:18And he said, yeah, Evans ran a sluggo and stuff.
21:20Which is a slant and go.
21:22And you watch the replay.
21:23Evans does a quick little move off the line.
21:26Like he's going to run the slant.
21:27And immediately cuts it right back out and gets behind the defender.
21:30And that's what made it so Brock could just throw that up pitch and catch.
21:34How about Bobby in Los Altos?
21:36Hi, Bobby.
21:37Thanks for calling.
21:40Hey, thank you for taking my call.
21:42Good afternoon.
21:42Yeah, what's up?
21:43So, Brock Purdy.
21:45I think, you know, can we just, like, we don't have to go from Jag to Superstar.
21:51Can't you just be a star?
21:53There's got to be a couple steps there.
21:54And I think he's on the cusp of Superstar.
21:57Maybe he's like a sub-star.
22:00But I don't know if he's a Superstar yet.
22:02But one thing that is apparent to me is when you look at people like Trevor Lawrence specifically, you know,
22:09I think he's always been a good quarterback.
22:11But he needed the right coach to make him look good.
22:13And, you know, Liam Cohen is obviously a great quarterback and unlocked Trevor Lawrence.
22:17But Brock Purdy, to me, I feel like he could actually work with any head coach.
22:24Now, obviously, the synergy is there being with Shanahan.
22:26But Brock Purdy is almost getting to the point where it doesn't matter who you would pair him with from
22:32a head coach standpoint.
22:33I do feel like he would be successful.
22:36And that, to me, is what makes a superstar.
22:38That's what makes a Lamar Jackson or, you know, a Buffalo Bills quarterback.
22:44I don't know why that name escapes me.
22:45Josh Allen.
22:46Josh Allen.
22:48Josh Allen.
22:49Shout out Fireball.
22:51But I do feel like he's on the cusp of a superstar.
22:55But there's just got to be a couple levels.
22:57You can't go from what the national media calls a system quarterback to a superstar.
23:03So, again, he's on the cusp.
23:05I'll call him a sub-star.
23:06But what I do appreciate about him is I really do think it's not because of Shanahan that he's great.
23:11I think he's just shown that his processing and his incredibly quick burst out of the pocket and his decision
23:19-making makes him a sub-star.
23:22Yeah.
23:23And maybe it's a good season.
23:25He'll be a superstar, just like Mahomes.
23:28And I don't know why I forgot his name again.
23:30Yeah, Josh Allen.
23:31Yeah.
23:31Fireball boy.
23:32Still Josh Allen.
23:33Yeah.
23:34Yeah.
23:35Bobby.
23:35Bobby, thank you very much.
23:36Look, everybody gets to use whichever definition you want.
23:39You're like, you want him to be a star before he's a superstar?
23:42I personally already thought he was.
23:44So, if you're buying the national media that he was a system quarterback, sure, you're not going to elevate him
23:48to superstar.
23:49I never bought that.
23:50So, everybody gets to do that how they want.
23:52But to me, when I look at this league right now, I look at his numbers, I look at his
23:56team's output, the way they're playing, the way the whole country seems to feel about him right now, I absolutely
24:03feel he's a superstar.

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