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Miami’s new throwback uniforms spiral into a heated debate over mixing apparel brands and whether Nike and Jordan are actually the same thing.
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00:00Happy birthday, by the way.
00:01Mario Cristobal.
00:02He is 56 years old today.
00:04I'm trying to think.
00:05Was he on the team when we...
00:06No, he wasn't.
00:07He wasn't on that team.
00:09Nah, he wasn't there yet.
00:10Yeah, he wasn't on that yet.
00:13So...
00:13Did you get your jersey yet, Brittany?
00:15Did you get your 01 jersey?
00:16I have not.
00:18I'm really contemplating it as a thing.
00:21Because it's Adidas?
00:22Yeah.
00:23And then everybody's going to have Nike next year, and then you're going to be like, I got the old
00:26jersey.
00:27Exactly.
00:28Do people care?
00:28But if it's a good jersey, it's a good jersey.
00:31I think...
00:31I won't wear Adidas.
00:33I got Adidas Michigan stuff.
00:35You won't wear any of it?
00:36Nope.
00:36I would just wear the Jumpman stuff.
00:39Really?
00:39Yeah.
00:39Why?
00:40I don't know.
00:41If it's good stuff, it's good stuff.
00:42Isn't that how you do it?
00:43Brittany, explain to him.
00:45Yeah, come on.
00:46Do you mix your brands, too?
00:48I try not to.
00:49I try not to, but I will do it.
00:52So will you go buy all the Adidas half price on sale stuff?
00:57Probably.
00:59Probably.
00:59So then I have to start wearing Adidas.
01:00I thought I was doing that with the Panthers.
01:02It cost me $175.
01:03So I have to wear Adidas shoes if I wear the Adidas stuff?
01:07Of course.
01:07Are you crazy?
01:09Even if it's a jersey?
01:11Tobin.
01:12It's not.
01:12Everybody's going to say, wait.
01:14So here's what's going to happen.
01:15You never mix brands.
01:16It's going to work.
01:17So you're going to get that on sale Adidas jersey.
01:20Yep.
01:21Right?
01:21You're going to be wearing it to a game, and somebody's going to come up to you and say,
01:25I got the new one.
01:28I'm telling you.
01:29I have to imagine that Nike's also going to come out with a throwback to kind of combat
01:34the Adidas sales.
01:35They have to combat it?
01:36No.
01:36Most people buy the new stuff anyway.
01:40Isn't it like the 25th anniversary?
01:41Isn't it supposed to be special?
01:43I get it, but it's also like ... First off, we never liked the Adidas deal, right?
01:50No.
01:51No one liked it.
01:51No one wanted it.
01:53I don't wear Adidas.
01:55I wear Nikes, typically.
01:57But I have D-Wade jerseys.
01:59I don't wear basketball jerseys a lot.
02:01In fact, I think it's probably the last jersey I bought.
02:02But I have D-Wade jerseys from when the heat first ... It was right after Nike.
02:09They went on the Adidas run.
02:10So I have a D-Wade Adidas, and I have a D-Wade Vice Nike.
02:13You're telling me I can't wear my Adidas red Dwayne Wade jersey if I don't have Adidas shoes on?
02:19Are you crazy?
02:20Are you crazy?
02:22Are you crazy?
02:23Are you crazy?
02:24You know where that jersey goes?
02:25Where?
02:26That jersey goes in case you're wearing D-Wade and you want to get it signed.
02:30What?
02:30You can get it signed, but it goes into the box and hope D don't throw it ...
02:33This is blowing my mind.
02:34It goes into a box ...
02:36How is this blowing your mind?
02:37It goes into a box and you hope D doesn't throw it away.
02:40Well, yeah, that's true.
02:42She's ruthless.
02:43She's ruthless.
02:43I asked my wife last night if I had any clothes left.
02:46That's crazy.
02:47I said, do I still have the same amount of clothes than when you went in there?
02:52I'm really ...
02:52Because you know this is how it goes.
02:54She'll hold up this.
02:56I haven't seen you wear this in so ...
02:58Handsome Dabby says Adidas.
02:59Because, ugh, no swag, Tobes.
03:02See?
03:02I mean, okay, listen.
03:03I like old school Adidas.
03:04I like to wear Cortez's and Superstars, and I used to wear this all the time.
03:09But it's like, I don't want to purchase an almost $200 jersey if the team isn't even
03:14going to be wearing them ever again.
03:15Even if it's a good jersey?
03:16No.
03:17I don't think so.
03:18I can go get the Nike version of it.
03:20So strange.
03:20No, you would get side-eye.
03:22Yeah, but what if they don't make it as good?
03:23So you're telling me ...
03:24If you went into a store ...
03:25We don't think that Nike's going to make it as good.
03:27Come on.
03:28If you go into a store, and there's a sales rack, and there's the hottest and latest ...
03:34I'm going to take the better quality jersey.
03:36No.
03:36And you go buy that sale item ...
03:38Right.
03:39When you stand in a line, everybody's going to be looking at you and talking about it.
03:41Okay, so you're telling me.
03:43You're telling me.
03:44So not a current player.
03:45I'm not going to make it like ... I'm not going to make it Malachi Tony.
03:48Let's say I want to go buy an Ed Reed.
03:51It matters whether or not I get an Ed Reed Adidas or an Ed Reed Nike.
03:55Yep.
03:55Why?
03:56First off, it's not even the original ... Let's be honest.
03:59It's not even the original jersey.
04:00Their original jersey was Nike.
04:02Right.
04:02It was.
04:03It was, but times change.
04:05I don't know what to tell you.
04:06They didn't wear throwbacks.
04:07They used to wear champions.
04:09You're not going to find it ... First of all, you're not going to find an Adidas
04:13Ed Reed jersey.
04:15No, they are making them.
04:16They are making them.
04:17That's for that whole year.
04:18They're making ... So they've released Ed Reed, Jeremy Shockey, Clinton Portis, Sean Taylor,
04:26Dorsey, and I think Shockey.
04:27Yes.
04:27Did I say Shockey twice?
04:28No, I think you might have.
04:29Okay, so the only way you could buy it, the only way, the only way, if they put 25-year
04:38anniversary somewhere on it.
04:42They do.
04:43I think there's like a patch.
04:43Isn't there, Brittany?
04:44A patch?
04:45I don't think there's a patch.
04:46I think there's a patch on the back.
04:48That means that ...
04:50101.
04:51Huh?
04:51It's like it's special edition.
04:53Right.
04:53Right.
04:53Right, right.
04:54So then can I wear it with my Nikes?
04:56No.
04:56I only have to ... But I have to buy Adidas whenever I wear that jersey.
05:01So I just can't have that jersey?
05:03No, you can have the jersey.
05:05You're not going to buy the jersey anyway.
05:06Why would I?
05:07Why would I?
05:08Why would I?
05:08Wearing it with flip-flops, damn it.
05:10Maybe I will.
05:11No, you're not.
05:12My old school jerseys ...
05:14Can I wear a jersey with flip-flops?
05:15You know what my old school jerseys are?
05:16I mean ...
05:16They don't have nothing on them because they didn't have that.
05:18Well, that's what I have.
05:19The old jerseys that I have, they're old Santana Moss jerseys, but they're just number sixes.
05:24They don't say anything.
05:24Yeah, same.
05:25I have old jerseys.
05:26I have an Andre Johnson.
05:28They wouldn't ... But that's how it was back then.
05:29They didn't sell ... You couldn't buy the jersey.
05:32You couldn't put the name ...
05:32So they knew they were doing something shady.
05:35Yeah.
05:35Oh, of course.
05:35Because they would sell a jersey without putting the player's name on it.
05:38I have an Andre Johnson that's not an Andre Johnson.
05:40I have a ... I have two Santana Mosses that are not Santana Mosses.
05:45And you know why that sucks?
05:46Because 17 people have worn that number.
05:48Exactly.
05:49But it goes with the times, though, because you can currently be like, oh, I'm currently wearing this
05:52player.
05:53That's what I used to do.
05:53I used to have ... I had a for Devin Hester, but it didn't have his name on it, obviously.
05:58But it was for Devin Hester.
06:00I have Earl Campbell, Archie Manning, OJ Simpson.
06:05Ooh.
06:06Cool.
06:09I have a couple more.
06:11LB says Tobin only buys Jersey Mike's.
06:15That's a bastard.
06:16Hey, don't hate on Jersey Mike's now.
06:18Jersey Mike's pretty good.
06:19Jersey Mike's pretty decent.
06:20Pretty good.
06:20It's pretty good.
06:21It's pretty good.
06:21All right.
06:21Listen, I don't know the rules anymore.
06:23I'm very scared.
06:24You know the rules.
06:25I don't know the rules anymore.
06:26Why are you scared?
06:27Just don't mix brands.
06:28Like, that's just ...
06:29But I can buy it.
06:30You can buy it.
06:31Sure.
06:32If I have Adidas shoes.
06:33If you have Adidas shoes.
06:34So, here's what happens.
06:34Yes.
06:35If you have Adidas shoes to match, which you don't.
06:39So, let's start here.
06:40I don't.
06:41You don't.
06:41We're setting up a hypothetical situation.
06:43I could get them, though.
06:44No.
06:45Yes.
06:45What if I bought ...
06:46Okay.
06:46So, let me ask you this.
06:47If I have a pair of D-Wades.
06:49Uh-huh.
06:49If I wear D-Wades with an Adidas D-Wade jersey, is that mixing brands?
06:54No.
06:54Or is that okay?
06:55No, that's okay.
06:56Okay.
06:57Because it's not a name.
06:58It's not necessarily a well-known brand of his shoe.
07:01His shoe company is not a well-known brand, in my opinion.
07:04I mean, it's not in China.
07:06In China, yes.
07:07But not in America.
07:08It should be.
07:09So, I'm okay with that.
07:10But you can't do Nike and Adidas.
07:12That's just wrong.
07:12That's sacrilegious.
07:13I didn't even realize that's a big deal.
07:15I didn't.
07:16So, like, I ...
07:17Okay, so I ...
07:17You're not going to wear Jordan ...
07:20Like, Leroy's not going to wear Adidas with Jordan, like, Michigan stuff.
07:23Right.
07:24This is crazy.
07:26I mean ...
07:27You can wear Nike in Jordan, though.
07:29The state's house just feels intangible.
07:32And the crazy thing is ...
07:34Very intangible.
07:35Some people, Nike is different than Jumpman.
07:40So, you can't wear ...
07:41So, you have to wear Jumpman with your Michigan stuff?
07:45Some people feel that way.
07:46Some people are that picky with it.
07:47It's a little strong.
07:48Some people are that picky with it.
07:50Yeah, but that's a little strong, because they're owned by the same company.
07:53But here's the problem.
07:54When it's Jumpman, they don't have Nike on it.
07:58I understand.
07:59But it's still owned by the same company.
08:02No, it's owned by Jordan.
08:03Jordan owns Jumpman.
08:04But it's under the same umbrella.
08:06If you wear Jordan's shoes, they have a Nike check on them.
08:09Handsome Davy says, no one's wearing D-Wade's gear here.
08:11No, no, no, no.
08:12That's a no-no.
08:12So, Brittany, there's a difference between Air Force Ones and Jumpman.
08:20Yes, thank you so much.
08:21I know that.
08:22Yes.
08:22Jumpman does not have a Nike swoosh on them.
08:25The original Jordan Ones have a Nike swoosh on them.
08:30No, you're talking about the Jumpmans?
08:33Jumpman is different.
08:34Like the brand Jordans.
08:36Listen, Randy used to get fined because Randy Moss had Jumpman, and it wasn't Nike.
08:43And he would get fined for that.
08:45So, it is different.
08:47But Nike owns Jumpman.
08:48That doesn't make any sense.
08:49All they do is make the shoes.
08:53Michael Jordan owns Jumpman.
08:56So, all these people are not signing with Nike.
09:00He's not a Nike athlete.
09:01He's a Jumpman athlete.
09:02Right.
09:02Bam is not with Nike.
09:04He's with Jumpman.
09:04Jonas is with Nike.
09:06Right.
09:06That's his own thing.
09:09That's the big deal.
09:11Guy says, I had one here that said, oh, Dade's house says, I had to buy New Balance socks to
09:17wear with my New Balance shoes.
09:19Yes.
09:19See, this is another thing I'm very confused about.
09:20Look.
09:21Hey.
09:22See, I wear no name because I can't.
09:24If I have Nike shoes on.
09:25I knew that rule.
09:26I knew that rule.
09:27If I have Nike shoes and I reach in and there's an Adidas on my sock, we got to go
09:31back to
09:31the door.
09:32I don't even see.
09:32I don't even know the rules anymore because, like, here's the thing.
09:34There's two things that are crazy.
09:35One, I don't like long socks.
09:37That wasn't cool when I was growing up.
09:39You didn't wear long socks.
09:40I don't wear long socks.
09:40Yeah.
09:40You wear little socks.
09:42Okay.
09:43Second of all, all right, New Balance was lame as hell when I was coming up.
09:46And now, all of a sudden, New Balance is cool?
09:48New Balance is so cool.
09:50Yeah, because they're so cool.
09:52I would say New Balance is, as far as the feel of the shoe and everything, right along
10:00like Skechers, like they-
10:03That's for the old.
10:04No, but I don't know.
10:05New Balance used to be.
10:07Yeah.
10:07New Balance, was it?
10:09Hookah.
10:09My grandfather wore New Balance.
10:11Hookah.
10:11Hookah.
10:12Hookah.
10:12Hookah.
10:14What's the other ones?
10:16Brooks.
10:17Brooks.
10:19Like, yeah.
10:19The old love Brooks.
10:20You, like, yeah.
10:22Yeah, so if I see, you know where those shoes are all worn by doctors and nurses, too.
10:30Hmm.
10:31So, comfort shoes.
10:32So, that's what New Balance was.
10:34Comfort wasn't cool.
10:35Then they started making sports.
10:36First, they started making golf shoes.
10:37They made golf shoes first.
10:40Then they went from golf shoes, then Skechers made golf shoes.
10:43Now they do, like, the old people lingerie rounds.
10:46Slip on.
10:47You ain't doing no kind of activity if you can slip on your shoes.
10:51You better grab a lace and tighten that thing.
10:53Stunt Steve says, ankle socks are lame.
10:55You are correct there.
10:56This is crazy.
10:57All these new rules.
10:58QAM, I mean, I'm going to be 40 in a couple weeks.
11:00This is insane behavior.
11:02QAM, you're on the air.
11:03What's your name?
11:04I'm sorry.
11:05I had to call in about this.
11:07Brittany is absolutely correct.
11:08Young man is owned by Nike.
11:10It's just a different department.
11:12Yes, it is.
11:13I'm telling you.
11:14You can go look it right now.
11:15It sounds like you found a loophole.
11:16It is owned.
11:17It's owned by Nike.
11:19It's just a different department.
11:20You shamed me for my D-Wade shoes, and now you are trying to loophole because you were
11:24jumping with Nike.
11:26Listen, I'm a sneakerhead.
11:28I'm telling you.
11:29They sell Nike.
11:30It's a different department, but they're owned by Nike.
11:32No, no, no.
11:33You can get Jordans at the Nike outlet.
11:37What they basically do is service the Jordan brand, but Jordan brand is owned by Jordan.
11:46Well, that's Bam.
11:47Jordan don't even own Jordan.
11:48Jordan owns a percentage of it.
11:50He sold his name years ago.
11:51So it says, no, Jumpman is a separate company from Nike, but it's a distinct sub-brand, and
11:56the logo is owned entirely by Nike.
11:59I'm asking Bam, I'm on that.
11:59Because they bought it back from him.
12:01They bought it back from him.
12:03You understand that, right?
12:06You're right.
12:07I'm just saying you know what I know.
12:08He owned it.
12:11It was separate.
12:12They bought it back from him.
12:14But what did you say, Brittany, to start it off?
12:16What is the first line?
12:18Go ahead.
12:19It says, Jumpman is a separate company from Nike, but it's a distinct sub-brand and logo
12:24are entirely owned by Jumpman.
12:26Nike owns the iconic Jumpman silhouette, which features a photo inspired by the pose of the
12:30basketball legend, Michael Ford.
12:32It is a cool logo.
12:33It is.
12:33All right.
12:33Hit the brick, Sansom Daffy.
12:35But it is owned.
12:36It is now.
12:38They bought it back from him.
12:40He made it a big deal to go separate from Nike.
12:43A big deal.
12:44I don't think he did sell it because he had a party last year in Greece for all his assets.
12:48No, he's still, listen, it's still under his, but they bought a majority of it.
12:54So they basically, they just pay him.
12:57He's a licensure?
12:57Huh?
12:58He's a licensed.
12:59Yeah.
12:59Yeah.
12:59It's like they have with Tiger Woods, right?
13:02Yeah.
13:04QAM, make it quick.
13:08Hello?
13:09All right.
13:10He can't make it quick if he don't say nothing.
13:11That's true.
13:12What are we doing?
13:13What are we doing?
13:14Man, that was much more heated than I thought it was going to be.
13:17I've got to be honest with you.
13:18It was Brittany's fault.
13:20Why are you pointing fingers?
13:22I'm joking.
13:23It is some Daffy trying to come in and tell me.
13:25I just wanted to know if you were going to get a jersey.
13:27You don't realize when this all started, that was like the thing.
13:33Jordan had to get approved by the NFL.
13:37Right?
13:39Because they said he wasn't a part of Nike.
13:41Nike was approved as shoes you could wear.
13:46Jordans were not.
13:47So everybody that he had wearing Jordans early on were getting fined like Bush was.
13:53Remember with Adidas?
13:55Because Adidas wasn't approved.
13:57Reggie Bush was getting fined every week when he came out.
14:00That was like a big deal when like Reebok took the jerseys.
14:03Because I thought that was a big deal.
14:07My feet still hurt from putting them damn things on.
14:10But the point is, that could have been back in the day, Leroy.
14:13But as of right now, Nike owns Jordan.
14:16So that's my point.
14:17You can wear Nike stuff with Jordan stuff.