00:00we're just so we're clear though just because the canes uh beat nc state worse than notre dame
00:04they're still not better than notre dame even though they beat notre dame just so everybody's
00:07clear that's i don't make the rules that was just the rules i'm lashing out i understand but you
00:13know it's so dumb i hate who's who's notre dame has one loss or two two two texas a&m and miami
00:19but they lost to miami that's the thing that's crazy we've we've had this it's so stupid we've
00:27had this conversation before is that if you beat a team now here's the other thing we could say
00:37miami lost to two unranked teams okay but and notre dame lost to two guess who they lost to though
00:43a team they lost they lost to a head-to-head when when did the games matter leroy when did the games
00:49matter you know yeah but it's so dumb you don't think it matters even though you beat said team
00:56their two losses to uh top five ranked teams at the time not if one of those is you well done
01:02well done and your two losses against unranked teams yeah i don't think it matters i don't think
01:08if if if if they lost to you if they lost to you if it would have been a different team no argument
01:16if they lost to you then yeah sorry it's actually i feel like they got to make it up even more
01:21that's it sorry them's the rules or should be the rules they just make up the rules as they go
01:29well i would say this they want notre dame up there so unrealistically they always get up there
01:36isn't it amazing um but i would say this they play four
01:42squeeze it maybe five tough games a year and then they play all the armed forces
01:49and the coast guard and do tell this by the way this is what i'm curious um do they play usc this
01:56year yeah yeah they beat them they beat them okay yeah
01:59but like the thing that i'm just looking at is like okay great so you beat usc good for you
02:06you can be miami though you shouldn't be above them that's the rules they don't even have this
02:14dumb scc it's early in the year though it's not early in the year there's there's two games but
02:19i'm saying when they lost oh that's another one that's silly let me tell you something when the
02:23game happens the game happens sorry we don't get to do that if anything both teams are probably
02:28healthier the canes now are going out there they got no cornerbacks they're starting running back
02:32is gone what are we talking about that was the most primo game that there was everybody healthy
02:39a whole summer to prepare canes kicked their ass doesn't matter though oh it was a wrong game and
02:46you know tough atmosphere you make every for for what can i ask you something for what what is this
02:52what does this notre dame do for you every year you're trying to prop them up every year so they
02:59don't even respect our troops you know they go out there they beat our own forces you don't think
03:05that losing the game in the first week of the season that means no matter what you do the rest
03:11of the year the team you lost you should be above is that not the game i like i'm sorry why make it
03:15a big deal then if they're gonna because here's what this is why i have an issue with it all right
03:20i don't know i sound like a homer here but whatever this is what don't make any sense it does make
03:25sense because if you play early in the year if you're gonna make because this became the thing
03:29they wanted to make opening week before the nfl gets going they wanted to make it the biggest
03:35deal well you don't get to make it the biggest deal and then all the say well it doesn't matter
03:41that much after the season goes on it's stupid did the game happen or the game not happen but
03:48like i hate that you put me in a situation to where if i make sense of it or try to make sense of it
04:00then i'm a hater no that's not what i'm saying i'm saying that if one plays two
04:07in the beginning of the year and two beats one and then they play 10 games in between there
04:16moving back and forth or whatever that means two should always be above one if the record's the
04:22same yes that's that's with all those games you're moving up and down based on those games if it's
04:28if it's the same record when in what in what sport hold on let me tell you something right now i'm not
04:35being a jerk about this let's let's be legitimate at this if the dolphins played the bills okay and they
04:41beat them both games fantasy understand they finish with the same record what's the tiebreaker
04:46boom and if the heat beat if the heat and the cavaliers finish with the same record right and
04:54the heat have more wins against the cavaliers what's the tiebreaker so if the kings and notre
05:00dame finish with the same record why in god's name do we have to do this whole song and dance about
05:04well it was early in the season i don't understand that the game should always matter the most i had
05:11this problem with fsh so so let me get this straight and i'm trying to understand your logic
05:18notre dame lost to the third ranked team and miami was the what when i think they were 10th 10th
05:28okay two top 10 teams and they all lost to texas and in by one right two top 10 teams
05:33miami lost to two unranked teams right and you're still telling me that no matter what poll you have
05:43man because as this goes as this goes on right you lose into a top three team doesn't drop you that
05:51much but you lose into an unranked team right so should drop you more and you did it twice i understand
05:58that so i'm saying just the way the path that their seasons have taken
06:03that's why they're so far apart but once we have all soon as we so you're saying so soon as
06:10they get the same record miami should still go regardless of how the once the season finishes out
06:15okay let's say they both finish with two losses and you have a head-to-head win over a team it
06:20absolutely should be the ultimate tiebreaker we could you could window wax you could talk all this
06:24thing you could talk logic in what sport leroy tell me in what sport i'm asking you a question
06:30in what sport does head-to-head never matter football because you get ranked every week
06:36it's stupid though how many times do we look at this thing when anyway in your conference it does
06:41matter when fsu in your conference they're not in our conference no you misunderstand what i'm saying
06:47in conference play their head-to-head matters but in the national um rankings the stupid rankings
06:56okay i can't like i'm just like all right like i don't understand so you're here's here's what i'm
07:06getting at regardless of how the seasons have played out right yep and regardless that miami lost
07:14the two unranked teams no matter what they should be above notre dame if the record's the same do you
07:19you understand if the record's the same yeah i do yeah but you can't lose you can't lose the teams
07:23that you're supposed to be better than fine but the if the record's the same if we're not talking one
07:28you sound ridiculous like the more i think about it it's just during the course of a season i don't
07:33think i do sound ridiculous during the course of a season depending on who you play and how you play
07:39week to week those rankings change which okay but they're always hold on i don't understand this
07:44because you've always been the thing that record that rankings are fluffed up they're just subjective
07:49this is made for tv what has always mattered is what the games okay but yes the games matter so one
07:56team loses to two high top 10 teams and the other team loses to two but they lost to you hold on
08:02the other team loses to two unranked teams who you think they're gonna put ahead of who regardless
08:09of what they had to head the two the team that only lost you can't say that though i can't i'm telling
08:14you how it works i ended hold on i know how it works i'm arguing how it works i know how it works
08:21i understand the argument my thing is it's dumber to just throw out proof that we have of a game
08:28that happened you're just like three months ago who cares leroy is the season the season or what
08:34i don't understand that so who cares that it was three months ago the season is the season
08:39the stupid championship happens it used to happen a month after the last game happened correct who
08:45cares like college football is so dumb with this no i'm trying to here's what i'm trying to figure out
08:51i'm trying to figure out if you were if the canes were on the other side of this
09:00would you be fine with it i wouldn't have much of an argument i don't know how you could have an
09:06argument i lost to that person because you lost the two unranked teams but if you lost you can't go
09:11lose wait you can't go lose the two games that notre dame lost and i hate notre dame
09:18leroy has never sounded dumber and that's saying a lot all right we'll end it you you guys have no
09:25so the canes should be 10 or based on based on the way this season or notre dame should be lower
09:31they should be 10 or the or the notre dame should be lower but notre dame's 10 then they should be
09:36lower i'd be fine where should the canes be 12 13 we should be 12 they should be 13 i'd be fine with
09:44that at least it would make sense okay at least the games would make sense like this you know i get
09:51aggravated with the i don't understand why though because it goes against everything you've ever
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