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00:00I remember every day just holding my breath.
00:02Is news going to break? Is news going to break?
00:03Is Taylor going to go to jail?
00:04Like, is Dakota going to go to jail?
00:05It was so scary.
00:10Virtual reality.
00:13Hi, I'm Denny Murphy.
00:14I'm Evan Riel.
00:15And oof, the Mormon wives' lives.
00:18I mean, they're always kind of a mess,
00:20but this season, a little extra messy.
00:23It was really messy.
00:24I mean, obviously, this was the lead up
00:26to Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota Mortensen's
00:29domestic abuse allegation scandal
00:31that ultimately led to the demise
00:33of Taylor Frankie Paul's season of The Bachelor,
00:35the reason why it was pooled.
00:36But we're getting a lot of behind-the-scenes tea.
00:38We get the spoiler that Doug won,
00:41but then he ultimately didn't win
00:43because Taylor went back to Dakota,
00:45but then was also canoodling with Ben.
00:47And called off their, like, honeymoon weekend
00:49or whatever it is.
00:50Happy couple.
00:51Happy couple.
00:52Yes.
00:52Going into the first happy couple visit with Doug,
00:55there was a point that clicked that I was like,
00:56this isn't going to work.
00:57And I'm going to break it off.
01:00She said, oh, I am happy coupling.
01:02Well, not happily coupling with other people,
01:03but having that.
01:04I know it is always the crazy thing
01:05that the domestic dispute that pulled The Bachelorette
01:08is what this season one, episode one
01:10of The Mormon Wives started with.
01:12Right.
01:12So it's honestly, as a viewer,
01:14it's a bit confusing, to be honest,
01:17because we, it's like every episode,
01:20it's like three weeks until the production pause,
01:23two weeks until the production pause.
01:24And do you know what I didn't think helped
01:26is that at the end of the season,
01:28there's this kind of, like, intense,
01:31like, the whole cast is fighting with Taylor
01:34after she comes off this fight
01:36with Michaela and Macy and Jesse
01:38while they were trying to pull
01:39the Cartier ring hijinks for Layla
01:41to get Mason's Cartier ring back
01:43after Mason and Layla broke up,
01:45which we're so glad that Layla moved on from Mason.
01:47Layla, I am so happy.
01:47And I'm sorry you've been through so much
01:49before you can legally rent a car.
01:50No, literally.
01:51Girl, you are too young to be dealing with this.
01:53She's only 24.
01:55I am, I love anyone discovering their sexuality.
01:58No one has needed to be with a woman
01:59more in their life than Layla.
02:01Layla, these men are not for you.
02:03I mean, if you end up with a man,
02:05that's copless,
02:06but I feel like this woman is a good energy for you.
02:07We don't know her yet.
02:08Yeah.
02:09I just know, the bar's low.
02:10Oh, totally.
02:11Very low.
02:12Oh my God.
02:12Every man involved in the mom talk orbit
02:16is just kind of like,
02:18I don't want to say trash.
02:19No, because that's rude to garbage.
02:22No, oh, I mean right.
02:24Because you know what I mean?
02:25Because they're, what is,
02:26what I hate is,
02:27it's not even,
02:28it's the manipulation.
02:30Yeah.
02:30And I feel like it's a lot of them,
02:33it's a lot rooted in like,
02:36they've watched these women flourish
02:38and have such amazing opportunities.
02:42As the women are helping these men out
02:43every f***ing step of the way, mind you.
02:46And now I don't know why there's levels of jealousy
02:49and I think kind of things of like,
02:51but I'm the,
02:52I feel a lot of them are like,
02:53but I'm the man of the house,
02:54or not even the house,
02:55but I'm the man.
02:56Yeah.
02:57You can't be doing this.
02:58Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba.
03:00And Chase,
03:00we had amazing interactions with him in April.
03:03Yeah.
03:03When he did our live show before this came out.
03:06The way he's talking to everybody,
03:07you don't even have a woman at home.
03:08Right.
03:08Why do you care what these women do?
03:09I know.
03:10As you're getting DUIs
03:11and making Miranda's life hell.
03:12I know.
03:13And Miranda really handled that with such grace.
03:15I mean,
03:15she's a stronger woman than us all.
03:16We were saying,
03:17Miranda is such a level-headed person.
03:19She really is the voice of reason.
03:21And when she's going through so much s***
03:22with Chase and his DUI
03:24and worrying about how that will impact their kids
03:26and their family life,
03:27she's showing up for her friends like Layla
03:29when she's going through her messy Mason situation.
03:32She's just the best.
03:33Miranda is the best.
03:35She really is.
03:36And I will say,
03:36I know a lot of people kind of feel like,
03:39oh,
03:40Whitney doing Chicago.
03:41Can she act?
03:42Yada,
03:42yada,
03:42yada.
03:43She acted like she gave s***
03:44about Jen Affleck's drama so well this season.
03:47So girls get an EGOT.
03:48When she had to sit down,
03:49because Whitney really did everybody solid
03:51and came back.
03:51She didn't want to come back for this final.
03:54She didn't want to do that.
03:55She didn't.
03:55Whitney,
03:56you don't have to say anything.
03:57Whitney did not want to film anymore
03:58the second she got Chicago.
03:59My opinion,
04:00my assumption.
04:00And then they're like,
04:02and Jen Affleck's like,
04:03I want to have a sit down with her
04:04because I just feel we have to right some wrongs.
04:06Whitney's like,
04:06I don't give a s***.
04:08Well,
04:08especially because Jen is talking about things
04:10that happened season one.
04:11Two years ago.
04:12Yeah.
04:12Like,
04:13I just,
04:13What?
04:14I rewatched back everything
04:16and you said that I was a bad friend.
04:18You're talking about season one.
04:19Yes.
04:20Like,
04:20two years ago.
04:21Yes.
04:23I don't understand her commitment
04:26to the,
04:27what seems to be an inability
04:29to move on from the past.
04:31I think,
04:31I mean,
04:33she was fighting with Whitney
04:34who doesn't even look like the Whitney
04:35we see today.
04:36No.
04:36You know what I mean?
04:37Like,
04:37Whitney's been through
04:38so much
04:38and she's changed so much
04:39and the whole cast has evolved
04:41and grown.
04:41And her energy with everyone
04:42has changed so much too.
04:43Yes.
04:43Yeah.
04:43But Jen,
04:44and with much love to Jen,
04:46it just kind of seems like she's stuck.
04:47It doesn't even seem like she has
04:49any strong allies in the cast
04:51with the exception of Miranda
04:53who's not even that close to her.
04:54Miranda is the one
04:55who went to check in on her.
04:57Wait,
04:57Jen doing a sad TikTok alone?
05:05She's just doing one by herself.
05:08Oh my God.
05:09Oh my God.
05:09Okay.
05:10So that made me laugh so hard.
05:12I was kind of on the floor.
05:13I was like,
05:14this is really sad.
05:14So when they were in New York,
05:16right?
05:16Uh-huh.
05:17Because it was a brunch
05:18before they were all heading back to Utah.
05:19And she really just,
05:20Jen could not even fan happiness.
05:23She told Whitney,
05:24I'm so happy for you.
05:25You did incredible
05:26as Roxy Hart in Chicago.
05:27But when Whitney was talking about it
05:29at the brunch
05:30and all the opportunities
05:31that she wants to-
05:32All the girls were like,
05:32do you want to do more Broadway?
05:33Do you want to add?
05:33Everyone gassing Whitney up
05:35because not gassing,
05:36just giving her the flowers
05:36that she earned.
05:37Yeah.
05:38And Jen just couldn't handle it.
05:39You could tell she was seething with jealousy.
05:40And then they were all going to do
05:41a group TikTok
05:42and they invited Jen
05:43to be a part of it.
05:44But she was like,
05:45no, I don't feel like doing it.
05:46And then she does the solo TikTok.
05:47And it was almost like
05:49she did it on purpose
05:50so that fans would know
05:51she's in the same exact location.
05:54And then it sort of builds this narrative.
05:56I think was her,
05:57I think that was her intention
05:59to build this narrative.
06:00Oh, they're leaving Jen out there
06:01being mean girls.
06:01They're being exclusionary.
06:03Oh, exactly.
06:04And I will say also,
06:06I hope not,
06:07we're not Zach Affleck fans.
06:10Particularly,
06:11oh, sorry.
06:11I mean, I don't know.
06:13No, historically, no.
06:15Historically not.
06:15But an interesting thing,
06:17I thought it was really interesting.
06:18Okay, I think we're on the same wavelength.
06:20Yes, I'm like,
06:20Zach, now listen, now watch.
06:22When Jen was like,
06:23I'm having you go talk to
06:26the Mormon bishop
06:28to get you back on track.
06:29So that you can be worthy enough
06:30to give your daughter
06:31a Mormon blessing.
06:33But he was explaining
06:34he hasn't gone to church
06:35for the last year and a half
06:37because he's been supporting
06:38this reality TV lifestyle
06:40which was shunned
06:41by the Mormon church.
06:42So then he sort of,
06:43I don't want to say succumb
06:45to her new lifestyle,
06:46but he was supporting her
06:48in the most extreme level
06:49because he stopped going to church.
06:51And also in addition
06:51to reality TV,
06:53he was saying,
06:55you,
06:55I was learning
06:56from our conversations
06:58how much of the church
06:59is rooted in the patriarchy.
07:01Right.
07:01And I want,
07:02I want to be a better,
07:04because he's having
07:05a metamorphosis.
07:06Right.
07:06Because that's what I was like,
07:07well, he's not like a,
07:08doing a little better now.
07:09I think him and Jen
07:09are doing like awfully now.
07:10I don't even know.
07:11But it's like,
07:12he was growing and evolving.
07:14He was trying.
07:15In a way that.
07:15He's the one guy here
07:16who's somehow not toxic this season.
07:18Yeah.
07:19And I,
07:20you would think that Jen
07:21would appreciate him
07:22sort of separating himself
07:25from those traditional values
07:26and beliefs
07:26within the system
07:28of the Mormon church
07:29because she's out here
07:30wanting to pursue her dreams
07:32of acting and dancing
07:33and singing
07:33and doing sports illustrated.
07:35Now, the one thing
07:36which we find out
07:37later in the season
07:38when she talks more
07:38about her acting aspirations,
07:39he's not down with it.
07:41And he said he talked to God
07:42a lot about that.
07:43And so I understand
07:44her frustrations being like,
07:45well, you need to support me.
07:47However,
07:48like going back
07:49to the bishop
07:50and the baby blessing of it all,
07:51she should have just understood
07:53that he was uncomfortable
07:54with that
07:54and didn't want to do that.
07:55And because she was
07:56so like the mom talk
07:57started like fighting
07:58against the patriarchy
07:59of the Mormon church.
08:01Why would you be so hell bent
08:03on getting your baby blessed
08:04within a ceremony
08:05that is so rooted
08:06against what you stand for?
08:07Rooted in the patriarchy.
08:08Do you think God
08:09heard Jen Affleck song?
08:11I mean, Miranda did.
08:13Miranda,
08:14I want my pink back.
08:15Look,
08:16I love that she built a studio.
08:18I love that she used
08:19her Dancing with the Stars cache
08:20to build something
08:21that can help her
08:22potentially facilitate
08:24some of her dreams.
08:24and I think it's courageous
08:26of her to sing live
08:29on television.
08:30Absolutely.
08:31Like that's,
08:31we don't all have
08:32that confidence.
08:33She's like,
08:33Whitney sang live.
08:34Here's Jenna.
08:35I'm going to sing live too.
08:36I want my pink back.
08:37She was explaining
08:37that flamingos
08:38when they give birth,
08:39they lose their pink color
08:40and she's given birth
08:40many times.
08:41She's about to give birth again.
08:43She has opened up
08:44about the mental health struggle
08:45she experiences
08:45when pregnant.
08:46Yet she
08:48and Zach are having
08:49another baby,
08:49which I don't know
08:50whose idea that was,
08:51but that's a conversation
08:52happening online right now.
08:53But I hope she gets
08:54her pink back.
08:54I hope she gets
08:55her pink back
08:55and I hope maybe
08:56the ladies,
08:57because she is going on
08:58to do Secret Lives
08:58and Mormon Wives
08:59Orange County,
09:00I hope she has friends there.
09:02I have to imagine
09:03she has better allies
09:05because it's funny
09:05when everyone was
09:07in an igloo
09:07in Central Park
09:08and then it was Taylor
09:09and Jen together.
09:10I was like,
09:10how did we get here?
09:12How did we get to this?
09:13And also with Taylor
09:13in the city,
09:15this whole Ben saga
09:16was crazy.
09:17Really crazy.
09:18And also it's crazy
09:19that she was like,
09:20what do you want
09:21our kids to be?
09:23And then she got stressed
09:24that he wants
09:25to be in a relationship.
09:26Do you think,
09:26because Jesse called it out,
09:28do you think
09:29it's just coincidental
09:30or planned that Taylor
09:32and Dakota got out
09:33of relationships
09:33at the same time?
09:35I mean,
09:37I don't know.
09:38I feel like
09:40maybe a bit of both.
09:41Yeah.
09:41I don't know.
09:42I just,
09:43it's like,
09:43it's all sad.
09:44With Taylor and Dakota,
09:46it makes me so,
09:47so sad.
09:48You know,
09:48this Ben situation
09:49obviously like
09:50did not make Taylor's life
09:51any easier
09:53because he also had
09:54kind of a girlfriend too,
09:56but it wasn't his girlfriend.
09:57I forget her name,
09:58but they kept using
09:58that Ferris wheel clip
09:59over and over again.
10:00Oh, that's Dakota with her.
10:02Dakota with the new girlfriend.
10:03Yeah.
10:03Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:04I can't even remember her name.
10:06Emily, Emma.
10:07Emily, Emma.
10:08I have no clue.
10:09We didn't really get much
10:10of her on the show.
10:11It seemed like she filmed
10:11a little bit,
10:12but I guess she wasn't
10:13that,
10:13I don't know.
10:14Maybe she was just
10:15like a non-factor,
10:16but Ben was a factor
10:17in New York City
10:17at this massive penthouse
10:20apartment hotel room,
10:21which looked like amazing.
10:22The bathroom was spectacular.
10:24However,
10:24I don't know
10:24if that bathroom scene
10:25was so spectacular.
10:26What went through your mind?
10:29When she was slurping water?
10:30Before she was slurping water.
10:31Yeah.
10:32When Ben was showing off
10:33his booty cheeks
10:33to the camera.
10:36Mine was blurred,
10:37so I don't know.
10:39I don't even know
10:39what the booty cheeks
10:40were doing.
10:41I just,
10:41I don't know.
10:42I felt so bad.
10:44Taylor loved it.
10:44She was like,
10:45I can't believe you did that
10:45on camera.
10:46I felt so bad
10:46for the camera person
10:47because I was like,
10:48oh my God,
10:48y'all have been sweaty
10:49all around the city.
10:50Well,
10:50he hasn't really left
10:51the penthouse.
10:52He's been hiding
10:53because she's under
10:54her strict bachelor MDA.
10:55She can't be seen
10:56with another man
10:57for months and months
10:58and months
10:58and her mom's
10:58worried about it.
10:59Yeah,
10:59when she chaotically
11:00ordered every dessert
11:00at Serafina
11:01then ran away.
11:02I was like,
11:03what does that mean?
11:03And then of course,
11:04Michaela and Macy
11:05M&M Incorporated
11:06went to deliver the desserts
11:07because they wanted to see
11:12for themselves like,
11:13okay,
11:13so this is why Taylor's
11:14being so weird.
11:15Why do I know
11:15like they like
11:18hand fed each other
11:19New York cheesecake
11:19in that bath tub water?
11:23Sounds kind of,
11:24I mean,
11:24I'm not saying no.
11:26And also,
11:26I don't know why
11:27it's so different.
11:27Like I drink tap water,
11:28but like I don't know
11:29if I would drink bath water
11:30that I'm actively in.
11:31Was she rinsing her mouth
11:32and spitting it out
11:33or do you think she actually
11:34No, I think she drank it.
11:35She consumed it.
11:35I hope so.
11:36Because Ben said
11:37that she reminded him
11:38of a wild animal,
11:39which maybe was a turn on,
11:40but his face wasn't,
11:41his face was like,
11:48Well, also Ben,
11:48it's like you're dating
11:49Taylor Frankie Paul
11:50like with love.
11:50Like she strikes me
11:51as a girl who would
11:51drink the bath water.
11:53Do you know what I mean?
11:54Like I'm not even
11:54saying that in a bath,
11:55I'm like she wears
11:56the same sweatpants
11:57every scene.
11:57She does and she looks
11:58so good in her sweatpants
12:00and that tight
12:00little long sleeve shirt
12:02and her boob job
12:02is just like boob jobbing
12:03and you know,
12:04say what you want
12:05about Taylor.
12:05She's a really beautiful girl.
12:06She's so pretty
12:07and I feel like
12:08she's just lost.
12:09I mean,
12:10I don't know.
12:10It just stresses me out.
12:11She stresses me out.
12:12And we were talking about it
12:13at the start of this recap,
12:14but that ending
12:15sort of towards the end
12:16when she's having this,
12:18well,
12:18it turns into a mea culpa
12:19with all the girls
12:20and everyone's saying sorry,
12:21but before that,
12:22there's this very heated discussion.
12:24You know,
12:25Macy and Michaela,
12:25they are very concerned
12:26about Taylor
12:28and the way she's moving
12:29through the post-bachelorette
12:30journey with Dakota
12:31and with Ben
12:31and doing all this
12:32and that and the other.
12:33And this is a lingering conversation
12:35that stemmed from the quote,
12:37what they're calling
12:37a street fight.
12:38I think Michaela said
12:39it was like Jerry Springer
12:40in the streets
12:40when after the hijinks
12:43of trying to retrieve
12:44the Cartier ring back
12:45for Layla amid the Mason breakup,
12:48somehow they came
12:49into this discussion.
12:51It's almost like the girls
12:52wanted to get Taylor
12:54in the car
12:54so they could really corner her
12:55to talk to her
12:56to have this kind of like
12:57intervention about
12:58what she's doing
12:58with all these three
12:59different guys
13:00after the bachelorette
13:01between Dakota, Doug
13:02and Ben, whatever.
13:04And Taylor was just not
13:06receptive to it
13:07and it became this discussion
13:08like Michaela and Macy,
13:10you think you're perfect
13:10so acting like you're perfect,
13:11you're not perfect.
13:12And then Michaela and Macy
13:13are like,
13:14oh, we never really said that.
13:15What's going on?
13:16And then they try to,
13:18they try to make it work
13:20at this,
13:21I think it was,
13:21was it at Jesse's Housewarming?
13:23Jesse's Housewarming?
13:23Because she got a new house
13:24that she bought in her own name
13:25because she knows what's up.
13:27Foreshadowing.
13:27Yeah, she saw the writing
13:28on the wall
13:28that she and Jordan
13:29were not going to sit together.
13:30They're together
13:30on the show right now.
13:31But of course.
13:32It's so crazy to watch,
13:33but finish your thought
13:34and then we're going
13:34to do Jesse a little bit.
13:35So at Jesse's House
13:36at the housewarming,
13:37they're having this like discussion
13:38and Macy and Michaela,
13:40so Jesse and Taylor,
13:42they connected
13:43after filming
13:44the street fight scene.
13:45Yes.
13:45And Taylor had sent
13:46an apology note
13:47to all the girls.
13:48Michaela and Macy
13:49did not interact with it
13:51and Taylor was upset
13:52because she felt like
13:53Macy and Michaela
13:54were being fake
13:54because they wanted
13:55to save the conversation
13:57until they had a camera
13:58in front of them.
13:59It's a good reality star too.
14:01Right, like maybe
14:01that's just their job
14:02at this point.
14:03You know what I mean?
14:04And so...
14:04But also,
14:05like instead of just texting it,
14:06it was like,
14:06I want to say to your face.
14:09Right, so Taylor,
14:10I don't like,
14:10weaponizing is too harsh a word,
14:12but she was kind of like
14:14weaponizing their delayed response
14:15and using that as her main ammo.
14:19But she did apologize
14:20for freaking out
14:21in the text message,
14:22but Macy and Michaela
14:23wanted to address it in person
14:24and then it becomes this whole thing
14:26where Michaela accidentally
14:28brings up Shania.
14:29Shania is the former best friend
14:31of Miranda
14:32who f***ed Chase and Dakota.
14:34Shania seems like a piece of f***,
14:36but no one's really placing the onus
14:38on Dakota in this situation
14:41because Dakota and Taylor
14:43have been up and down.
14:45Shania didn't really...
14:46Shania mattered to Miranda
14:47because that was her best friend.
14:48Shania did not matter to Taylor.
14:49But with Miranda,
14:50she made a really good observation
14:51in one of her confessionals.
14:53She was like,
14:54Taylor did this out of spite.
14:55Shania is just a piece of s***.
14:57Dakota did it out of spite.
14:58Dakota did it out of spite.
14:59And so no one's really...
15:00I wish Miranda would have said that
15:02in front of Taylor
15:03to Dakota's face.
15:04But you know why
15:05it wouldn't matter
15:06what you said in front
15:07to Taylor about Dakota?
15:09Right.
15:09Nothing you say to Taylor...
15:11He's not going to register.
15:12...about Dakota.
15:12Nothing you say to Dakota about Taylor
15:14will never register anything.
15:17Yeah.
15:17And if you ever find yourself
15:18in a situation
15:19where your drama's involving
15:20a Dakota, Doug, and Ben...
15:22Like, girl, what are we...
15:24We got to...
15:24I know.
15:25It just makes me really sad
15:26for Taylor.
15:27And then at the end of the season,
15:28we see that The Bachelorette
15:30is officially canceled
15:31after the video comes out.
15:32And she didn't even show up to that.
15:33There's a last group scene.
15:35I think...
15:36I forget whose house it is.
15:38Someone's house.
15:38No, no, they all have houses.
15:39They're gathering on a white couch
15:40as the girls do
15:41in their sweatpants.
15:42And Dakota...
15:43I mean, Taylor doesn't show up
15:44and explains like,
15:46oh, Dakota's being an asshole.
15:47And then the video comes out
15:48and then The Bachelorette is pulled.
15:49And then, you know,
15:50we're left with this question.
15:51Will Taylor return
15:52to the secret lives
15:53of Mormon wives?
15:53But Hulu,
15:54that's like up to y'all.
15:56I don't know.
15:56Like, that's like,
15:57we don't...
15:58That's not really even up to Taylor.
15:59That's like literally up to Hulu.
16:01Up to if she gets a contract.
16:02Right.
16:03So...
16:03And I mean, what is crazy?
16:05I want her to return.
16:05I really do.
16:06I'm rooting for Taylor.
16:08I know she's done
16:08a lot of bad stuff,
16:09et cetera.
16:10Like the, you know,
16:11we've seen the videos.
16:12Dakota's done just as horrific shit.
16:15But I think, you know,
16:17the thing is like,
16:18this is the incident
16:18that kicked off the show.
16:21That's the thing.
16:21It's the reason why we have a show.
16:23Right.
16:23And so now there's
16:24video evidence of it.
16:26Okay.
16:26We knew it was heavily documented.
16:28It was the start of the show.
16:30It was the reason why she was arrested.
16:31I know.
16:32But I know they're actively filming now.
16:33So we're going to get
16:34the season 5B, 6 sometime soon.
16:36And I'm really going to want to know
16:38how Jessie goes from
16:39how she talks about Marciano now.
16:40Oh, I know.
16:41To where they are now.
16:43Right.
16:44Also, speaking of Jessie,
16:45Jessie, if you're watching,
16:46you look beautiful.
16:47I don't want you to be insecure
16:48about your face.
16:49She talks a lot about
16:50her plastic surgery regrets,
16:51which just like honestly
16:53broke my heart.
16:55She was like,
16:55I want my old face back.
16:57I don't think it...
16:58I personally don't think
16:59it looks that different.
17:00But also her want...
17:01That's her want.
17:02Like that's what...
17:03You know the same reason
17:04why people choose
17:05to get plastic surgery
17:06for themselves.
17:07That want is what
17:08she wants for herself.
17:09But we love you, Jessie.
17:11Yeah, I know.
17:12You're a beautiful girl.
17:13I just...
17:13I feel so bad for her.
17:14But I am really interested
17:15to see how the Marciano
17:16situation plays out
17:17because she was talking
17:18some mad s***
17:19about Marciano.
17:20Did not like him
17:20filming the show.
17:22Felt like he was clout chasing.
17:23Now she seems happier
17:24than ever with him.
17:24Did she tell him
17:25she said all that
17:26or did he learn all of that
17:27on Thursday with her?
17:28Oh, I don't know.
17:29I feel like she probably
17:30gave him a heads up.
17:31But then they kind of hard...
17:32I mean, hard launch
17:33but I feel like
17:33they've been hard launching.
17:34Oh, yeah.
17:35Yeah, walking carpets together
17:37doing their thing.
17:38She was in the VRT
17:39comment section
17:39saying she's happier than ever
17:40even though Mikayla
17:41doesn't really approve
17:42of Jessie and Marciano.
17:44Mikayla says what she thinks
17:45and I love it.
17:46Love.
17:47I love it so much.
17:48Mikayla is f***ing amazing.
17:49She will just say
17:50whatever the f***
17:51is on her mind.
17:52It's incredible.
17:52Like when she called out
17:53Mason at the dinner table
17:54like, yeah,
17:55Layla gifts you all the f***
17:56and it feels a little bit
17:57imbalanced.
17:57And Mason was like,
17:59you could tell internally
18:00he was just like,
18:01f***, I can't believe
18:02she's saying this out loud.
18:03She's so giving
18:03and that's like
18:04her love language
18:05is gift giving.
18:06I think it's an amazing
18:06quality to have
18:07but it gets to a certain point
18:09where I'm like,
18:10it is too much
18:11if you're getting
18:11taken advantage of.
18:13She has never met a filter.
18:15And never, ever do.
18:16Never do.
18:17Her and Macy are such...
18:18A dynamic duo.
18:19Oh my God, yes.
18:20Love them.
18:20And so are Miranda and Layla.
18:22We talked about them
18:22on Page Six Radio.
18:23We were glowing
18:24how much of a great
18:26friendship dynamic they have
18:27which is why, guys,
18:28I mean,
18:29vote for whoever you want.
18:30But we're saying
18:30the VRT Awards
18:32are October 6th
18:33at Edison Ballroom
18:35which is so fun.
18:35But you all can help us
18:36vote for the winner.
18:37So go to
18:37page6.com
18:38slash virtual reality
18:39to put in your votes.
18:40You can vote every day
18:41until September 29th.
18:42One of the categories
18:43is dynamic duo
18:44where Miranda and Layla
18:46are nominated.
18:47They're against some like
18:48heavy duty though.
18:49They're against Lindsay and Gemma.
18:50Robin and Giselle.
18:51Yeah, Sally and Austin.
18:52So if you're a Mormon Wife fan,
18:55we're just letting you know that.
18:56But yeah,
18:57I guess we will.
18:57We're going to be back
18:58recapping so much reality TV.
19:00But I wonder when
19:01Orange County...
19:02What's going to come first?
19:03Orange County Mormon Wives
19:04or the next season
19:04of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?
19:06Ooh, I don't know.
19:06I'm honestly really intrigued
19:08by Orange County Mormon Wives.
19:09That would be like
19:09a good palate cleanser
19:11from all the darkness and drama.
19:12I need more details
19:13about that girl,
19:14that podcast girl.
19:16Bobby?
19:18Oh, yes.
19:19The one who's like
19:19in bed with people
19:20and is friends with Jake
19:21or something.
19:22See, this is why
19:23we'll keep you posted.
19:24When it drops,
19:25we will let you know about her.
19:26But until then,
19:27goodbye.
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