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00:00for anyone who was like an OG Bachelor Nation Bachelorette fan who was excited for another
00:03season of The Bachelorette, regardless of it being Taylor Frankie Paul, just to see
00:07someone search for love again on television. To have your rosé with the roses. I'm sorry for you.
00:16Virtual Reality. Hi, I'm Danny Murphy. I'm Evan Real. And yeah, we're not recapping The Bachelorette
00:23today because there is no Bachelorette in case you all missed it. I mean, I think it's impossible
00:27for you to have missed it. They pulled the plug on this season of The Bachelorette, Taylor Frankie
00:32Paul's. We also saw the headlines last week, you know, between the video resurfacing being released
00:39from the 2024 or 23. 2023. 2023. 2023. Three years ago. Domestic violence arrest. So many updates
00:48coming up from there. So much happening this weekend. It's been very crazy. I feel there's I feel it's
00:54kind of been like Justin Timberlake's DUI photos got released. And I feel this is still the story
00:58that everybody was talking about. Oh, totally. And do you know what's really interesting is people
01:01are wondering where did this video come from? Who leaked it? I mean, I kind of always felt like it
01:05was Dakota, but the one filming it, people were speculating that some of the Mormon wives might have
01:10sent it to a TMZ. So this was confusing. Someone, I think it was on TikTok or Instagram, someone posted
01:16a theory that they thought it was one of the Mormon wives to release it. And a lot of people
01:20have
01:22been theorizing, I feel kind of aimlessly and without much merit, that the Mormon wives were
01:28very jealous of Taylor Frankie Paul being The Bachelorette and wanted to sabotage her from doing
01:33that. I feel like honestly, the Mormon wives would say Taylor was sabotaging herself because if you
01:38missed last season, the Mormon wives show, she was missing her flight to beat The Bachelorette.
01:44Yeah. But Miranda clapped back in those comments saying, the first time I saw this video was the
01:50first time all of you saw it. And then she wanted to say, I have my theories of who I
01:55think leaked
01:55it, but I can assure you, I don't believe it was any of the women. Yeah, I don't, I don't
01:59believe
01:59it was. What would they? And also, I think it's kind of f***ing up their bag because now it's putting
02:05the show that they're on in question. And I don't think people are going to be running to do
02:09partnerships with anybody affiliated with Mormon wives at the moment.
02:12I thought, right. And I think that, well, I thought Mormon wives would be in kind of a precarious
02:17position because of all this. I thought, you know, they're taking a break from filming at the moment,
02:23but they're not taking a break from social. Did you see the official social media account for
02:28secret lives of Mormon wives on TikTok was interacting with some weird content? So Chase,
02:35who is Miranda's ex, baby daddy, et cetera, was previously involved in the swinging scandal.
02:41He filmed a heated rivalry themed remake of the, all the things she said scene, which by the way,
02:48that's so old at this point with a Marciano who is like suing producers.
02:56Yes. And to me. Yeah. Uh, secret lives of Mormon wives, their official TikTok commented like,
03:03Ooh, like I forgot what it was. It was like eyes or like, Oh my God, that's tea. Or like,
03:07I forgot what it was, but it was like some quirky little comment. And I was like, what is going
03:12on?
03:13But it's not just a secret lives account. Taylor Frankie Paul is also active on social media.
03:17She is. Well, she was telling people like, this is my job. So I, which I guess so.
03:21I understand that. And also she was like,
03:25Nick Vial is always my supporter because people were resurfacing the clip of him saying
03:29that it needs to be Taylor Frankie Paul for the bachelorette and everything like that.
03:32I guess also she's like, people are talking about me anyway,
03:35so I might as well give them more things to talk about.
03:36Cause maybe it's changes the conversation.
03:38Like her being spotted out and about in the sweatshirt that said,
03:42I can't wait to take you to bed or what is it?
03:44I can't wait to sleep with you. It was about nod pods,
03:47which I don't know what a nod or a pod is,
03:50but I think it's like a warming thing for your bed.
03:52Yeah. We researched it earlier. I guess they make warming things for the bed,
03:56warming things for the eyes. It's to help you sleep.
04:00So I guess that's their tagline. I can't wait to sleep with you.
04:03And people thought that she was sending some sort of message amid all the drama.
04:07I don't think she was sending any kind of message.
04:10Like I said to Evan, my,
04:11the message is what she's been sending since season one, episode one,
04:14she's a hamper girl. She gets her clothes from the hamper.
04:16And that's a week who among us doesn't.
04:18She just does a sniff test.
04:20Be like this sweatshirt I can wear out.
04:22Cause in some episodes,
04:23remember she wore the coffee shirt four days in a row,
04:26four episodes in a row with the scrunchie.
04:27Yeah. Yeah. I remember that Taylor.
04:29So I don't think there's any secret message to this besides the fact that she
04:32doesn't do laundry frequently.
04:34And also that she just wanted to wear a sweatshirt.
04:36She was really staying true to herself though.
04:38And those paparazzi photos like that is,
04:40that's Taylor Frankie Paul sweatpants,
04:43free merch Crocs,
04:45Uggs,
04:45whatever it is.
04:46It's also kind of crazy.
04:46I feel like she's like as unbothered as can be.
04:50Oh yeah.
04:50She doesn't honestly,
04:51I think in some ways,
04:53I think in some ways,
04:55and this might sound a little weird,
04:57but I think she's a little bit relieved.
04:59I think she's a little bit relieved to not have it air because I think that,
05:04you know,
05:05obviously she's still very much entwined in this toxic dynamic with Dakota.
05:10Although his restraining order against her was granted and he has temporary
05:14custody of their son ever.
05:16However,
05:16until April,
05:17which it's March 20 something now.
05:19Yeah.
05:20So it's for a little bit longer.
05:21I think that she's a little relieved because it would have been hell for her to deal with Dakota watching
05:28her week after week.
05:29He would have,
05:29he would have reacted in a way that maybe was even worse than what he was doing.
05:33Right.
05:34I'm just assuming because I think a lot of this came out because he was so not happy to have
05:39to experience her going on dates with all these men.
05:41He's probably talking about how much he,
05:42she does not like him.
05:43Yeah.
05:44Them all saying about how they would be better guys for her and her kids than him.
05:47Right.
05:48It would have set him off in a major way.
05:50So you honestly,
05:51it could be a blessing for her and her family.
05:54Yeah.
05:54That this doesn't air.
05:56There's also rumors and,
05:58you know,
05:58take this with a grain of salt because this was information shared with Demois.
06:01And apparently it was a kind of,
06:04kind of a boring season and a dud of a season.
06:07Although Danny and I did.
06:09And we got a glimpse at the trailer for the rest of the season.
06:13And it looks honestly really good.
06:16Also a boring season of the bachelorette.
06:18Water's wet.
06:20When is the show ever interesting?
06:22I guess what the rumor is,
06:24is that she felt so disconnected from any of the men because she was still stuck on Dakota.
06:28And it was like,
06:29apparently very apparent.
06:30And so I guess they're reportedly,
06:34allegedly,
06:34rumoredly were concerns that it wasn't going to land well with the audience anyhow.
06:40But then in the world of Demois,
06:42which again,
06:43please take with a grain of salt.
06:44There's all these rumors about them maybe wanting to do like a double bachelorette season
06:49with Miranda and Layla,
06:51which is a fun concept and a fun theory.
06:54I mean,
06:55like maybe,
06:56and I think that actually would be kind of like the smartest direction to go right now,
07:02only because they waited so long to cast another bachelorette.
07:07They went outside of the bachelor nation world.
07:09And,
07:10you know,
07:11we've been talking about it a lot here and on page six radio,
07:13Danny bachelor nation as a whole for the last several years has been very irrelevant.
07:18So you can't pluck someone from the bachelor nation family from like three years ago that no one remembers or
07:24cares about to lead the bachelor.
07:25Yeah.
07:25And also a thing with that,
07:26because I feel right now,
07:27Disney,
07:27ABC,
07:28Hulu,
07:28all that circle family is stress that two of their major franchises are crumbling the bachelorette and Mormon wives.
07:34So if they bring someone from Mormon wives or two people from Mormon wives that have less controversy,
07:41they could help kind of be a solve to get everybody back to digesting these shows.
07:47Like rehab the image.
07:48Now I would say,
07:49I mean,
07:50I love Layla and I want to find love.
07:52I know she just entered.
07:52I think like a health program for her issues with her body and everything like that.
07:59So I don't know if this is the perfect time for her.
08:02If they could couple that or give her some space for that,
08:04that'd be amazing.
08:06Yeah.
08:07I don't know.
08:07I mean,
08:08I would love for her to find love.
08:10Yeah.
08:11Cause Chase's brother,
08:12wasn't it Mason,
08:13but you do make a really good point.
08:15She has other fish to fry.
08:18That are more important for her to,
08:19before I want her to get into the place to find love.
08:22I want her to work on herself to get to the place,
08:25the healthy place that she wants to be.
08:26Yeah.
08:27I know she's,
08:27I think she's like in correct.
08:30I'm I feel so forgive me outpatient versus inpatient.
08:32She's the one where she doesn't have to be at the center.
08:35So she's doing outpatient treatment,
08:37which I think she was,
08:39I think she feels good about that.
08:40So maybe if she was a bachelor,
08:42they could like put someone on set with her to help her with that.
08:44I don't know.
08:45I'd be very stressful.
08:46Like I don't,
08:46I don't know what they're,
08:47what they're going to do.
08:48It's just,
08:49I know a lot of footage from the bachelorette has been leaking people like,
08:52Oh,
08:52they filmed on my resort.
08:52Here's Taylor,
08:53Frankie Paul walking with someone.
08:54And now that I start making out with a,
08:55no one cares about spoilers because it's not going to happen.
08:58Everyone knows who she ended up with.
09:00Yeah.
09:00It was that guy who I'm forgetting his name.
09:03Doug,
09:03Doug,
09:04Doug,
09:05Doug.
09:05I'm just sending out prayers to Taylor.
09:10Cause I was her moment and her moment was blocked.
09:13Wow.
09:14Okay.
09:15Psychic.
09:15Okay.
09:15There I am.
09:16So sorry,
09:17Doug with the dud season.
09:18Sorry,
09:18Doug,
09:18not your fault.
09:19Yeah.
09:19But he's trying to become a rap.
09:21A pop star.
09:23A pop star.
09:24Yeah.
09:24He has music.
09:25Now if the season is as good as his music,
09:27I understand why they shelved it.
09:29It wasn't.
09:30It wasn't.
09:30It wasn't fabulosity.
09:32Hugh,
09:33you know,
09:33A for effort.
09:34Oh,
09:34and then also a lot of potential lawsuits are brewing.
09:39Yes.
09:40So some contestants might want to sue ABC for time and earnings wasted and also endangering them from having them
09:47film potentially intimate scenes with someone who has a history of domestic violence.
09:52Now that part I could see having some,
09:56if she,
09:56if her domestic violence disputes were so intense that they would have to cancel season and they knew about it
10:02all before.
10:04Why would you have her film with a lot of men?
10:06I could see that being a thing.
10:07I can't imagine.
10:08Like,
10:09I don't think you can sue in 2026 that I had the chance to maybe sell that that fun boxes.
10:13Oh,
10:13I miss those.
10:14I miss those days.
10:15Where are they?
10:16Those were the days my friends.
10:19What was the gummies?
10:21What was it?
10:22hair,
10:22hair care.
10:23Oh,
10:24sugar bear hair,
10:25sugar bear hair care.
10:26Yeah.
10:26Yeah.
10:27What happened?
10:28Wow.
10:28Or the teeth whitening.
10:29There was a specific teeth whitener.
10:31Actually,
10:31there were many teeth whiteners.
10:33Yeah.
10:33And also,
10:34because my thing too,
10:34you sign on for the bachelorette,
10:36assuming you could go home night one.
10:38So it's not like your earning potential is going to be f***ed up from that.
10:40Yeah.
10:40And also if you are,
10:43thinking that you're going to quit your job to do the bachelorette,
10:45I don't know who's going to help you with that.
10:48And now people are also saying,
10:49could ABC sue the Taylor Frankie Paul for a breach of contract?
10:53But I don't think she breached a contract because this will happen before her contract was signed.
10:56Right.
10:57Exactly.
10:58But with that Taylor Frankie Paul,
10:59people are saying could maybe sue ABC because like for terminating terminating because I,
11:03you told me.
11:05And you knew all about it.
11:07You knew.
11:07That's the thing that's so frustrating is that everything was very well documented.
11:12She's spoken about this on the show.
11:14She did a TikTok.
11:15She did a TikTok.
11:16Breaking dishes.
11:17She's done a podcast.
11:19Like she has spoken about this at length and it literally established the Mormon wives franchise.
11:25Yes.
11:25So that's what I'm so confused about.
11:28It's like it just share the visual depiction of the fight in the video was,
11:32I think,
11:32really hard for viewers to stomach and advertisers to stomach,
11:36obviously for the bachelorette.
11:37But you already knew about it.
11:40So I saw somebody say it wasn't,
11:42it was like the bachelorette was just,
11:44they're not like course correcting.
11:46They're just,
11:46they got caught.
11:47That's,
11:48oh.
11:48And so you got caught.
11:50It didn't work out.
11:51And you made a really dumb decision.
11:54I mean,
11:55look,
11:55we love the Mormon wives and we have historically been fans of Taylor Frankie Paul.
11:59So at first,
12:01you know,
12:01I know I was really excited for her to lead the bachelorette.
12:04I just didn't think of it in this context.
12:05And now that we have been hit with the reality of the bachelorette getting
12:10canceled and we are reminded very visually of this fight,
12:14it's like,
12:15oh,
12:16this was like a bad idea from the jump.
12:17Yeah.
12:18And also then you're like,
12:19oh,
12:19and Mormon wives producer saw this and was like,
12:21this is our central drama.
12:23Right.
12:24Exactly.
12:25And also,
12:25because a lot of people have been saying both people that were up for
12:29hosting potential with the bachelor franchise and also just going to
12:33compete on it.
12:35their background checks are the most intense things of all time.
12:39Yeah.
12:39Well,
12:40I mean,
12:41like,
12:42you want to think that that's what I'm like.
12:44So yeah,
12:44but then the historically,
12:45like historically,
12:46it's always like,
12:47how are we going to vet them better?
12:48How are we going to vet them better?
12:49Because there's always someone on the show who has some crazy ass thing
12:53that comes out from their past.
12:54And it's like with this one,
12:56you had,
12:57you had all the tools there.
12:58You knew exactly the history.
13:00You know what I mean?
13:01Like it was well documented.
13:02So it's like the vetting process in this scenario doesn't even like mean
13:07anything because they had,
13:08they had everything available to vet Taylor Frankie.
13:12She was already vetted in a sense.
13:13And they thought it was okay.
13:16Yeah.
13:17Which for Taylor Frankie Paul,
13:18I mean,
13:19look what she did was not okay.
13:21That video was very hard to watch,
13:22but it was a,
13:23it's a two way street between her and Dakota.
13:25But she's saying Dakota threw her to the ground before that.
13:28Exactly.
13:28So,
13:29and also she pled guilty to it too.
13:30So it's not like she,
13:31she took accountability.
13:32She's still on probation for it.
13:33She like,
13:34I think I do think that people are missing or some people are missing that
13:37piece is that she did accuse Dakota of throwing her to the ground.
13:41And this was reactionary and I'm not saying it was right,
13:44but like,
13:44you know,
13:45it's,
13:45it's not an excuse.
13:46It's,
13:46it's an explanation for the way that she was acting.
13:49I think if anyone suffered such abuse,
13:53they could also potentially black out and see red and retaliate.
13:57I'm not,
13:57I'm again,
13:57I'm not saying it's okay.
13:59I'm just saying like,
13:59it is potentially what it is,
14:01which is a lot of people are throwing around this term.
14:04Reactive abuse.
14:06And maybe,
14:06maybe it's that,
14:07maybe it's not,
14:08I'm not an expert,
14:09but I can,
14:10I,
14:12this might be a hot take.
14:13I can empathize with Taylor Frankie Paul.
14:15No.
14:15Oh,
14:16you know,
14:16I,
14:16I also watching how she was raised,
14:19how her mom treats her,
14:20how she treats her mom,
14:21everything like that.
14:22Yeah.
14:23She's a woman who needs help.
14:24Totally.
14:25And I think that's kind of the thing.
14:26Right.
14:27Yeah.
14:27And I just Dakota makes that so hard for her,
14:30you know,
14:31I just,
14:33the whole situation,
14:33the whole situation sucks.
14:34It's such a downer.
14:36And I,
14:36you know,
14:37I feel really bad for the Bachelorette fans.
14:39I know you guys were waning and fading and there,
14:41there weren't too many of you left,
14:43but,
14:43but for anyone who was like an OG bachelor nation,
14:46Bachelorette fan,
14:47who was excited for another season of the Bachelorette,
14:48regardless of it being Taylor Frankie Paul,
14:51just to see,
14:51to see your someone search for love again on television,
14:54to have your rosé with the roses.
14:56I'm sorry for you.
14:57Yeah.
14:57It just really stinks.
14:58Now,
14:58did you see,
14:59did,
15:00did I sign up just when we talk about Mormon wise before we sign up?
15:03Did Jesse really refollow Marciano?
15:05I don't know.
15:07I am not sure.
15:08So we have to do some,
15:08that's what people are saying.
15:09We have to have eyes and ears on that.
15:11A quick check.
15:12And also that while allegedly Jordan filed a restraining order against her.
15:17I don't know what that would be for,
15:18but file one against me.
15:20Cause I don't want to be near you.
15:21Oh,
15:22kidding.
15:22Actually.
15:23We had a great time with Jordan.
15:24He was very nice to us at the VRT awards.
15:26I will say both he and Jesse.
15:27And that was like the VRT awards took place September,
15:312025.
15:32Jesse won our boss babe award,
15:34which she shouted out on the season of Mormon wives.
15:36And come to find out,
15:38it was when Jesse and Jordan were going through a whole heck of a lot of
15:41turmoil as a couple.
15:42And so they were,
15:43I mean,
15:44they couldn't have been more loved up at our event.
15:46They were cuddly,
15:48canoodly,
15:49cozy.
15:49They really looked like their relationship was back on track.
15:53He even read this very special speech for her that he dedicated to her and
15:58winning the boss babe award and beating Kim Kardashian in the category.
16:01And it was very sweet,
16:02very touching.
16:02And so I would have had no idea how dire and terrible and forward things
16:07were behind the scenes at home in their marriage,
16:10which is apparently going to end at some point because they filed for
16:13divorce.
16:13Yeah.
16:13And she does follow him Marciano.
16:15I don't know.
16:16Really?
16:17I don't know what's going on.
16:18Did you also see Jesse was practicing her dance moves with Sasha Farber
16:23from dancing with the star.
16:23So I'm like,
16:24are we soft launching a dancing with the star stint?
16:28Is that like,
16:29would producers like that?
16:31You're posting content with Sasha.
16:32This woman is saying,
16:33I would love to see her on dancing.
16:34I don't even know what's going on.
16:35I don't even know if this is true or not.
16:37Mason and Chase's sister says that Jordan is allegedly going to jail.
16:40Okay.
16:41TikTok's getting crazy.
16:41TikTok's getting a little too cuckoo.
16:43Jesse ain't going to jail.
16:44That's not.
16:46No,
16:46Jordan is going to jail.
16:47Jordan's going to jail.
16:47Oh,
16:48I don't know about that.
16:49I don't know if he's going to jail,
16:50but that seems a tad more likely than Jesse's going to jail.
16:55But I'm just,
16:55I'm just speaking from my heart,
16:57not from facts.
16:58And I don't know anything about the situation and we don't need to spread
17:01misinformation from TikTok.
17:02We don't know what's going on.
17:03And like,
17:04now there's just a cute chihuahua on my feed.
17:05So I think on that note,
17:06we got to call it,
17:07but we'll see what continues to crumble in Utah.
17:11And where's the Voucher?
17:12They were in LA.
17:14Yeah.
17:15ABC.
17:15I don't know.
17:16ABC.
17:17Oh,
17:17that's NBC.
17:18Sorry,
17:18ABC.
17:19We'll get you next time.
17:20I don't know.
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