00:00Scott Anderson 97-1 open lines 248-539-9797 let's get back to your open line calls Brian in Detroit
00:07you're on 97-1 hello Brian hey fellas how y'all doing what's up Brian I got um Gator I'm
00:15with you
00:16I'm with you 100 percent once you go to camp you shouldn't be able to go back to play college
00:21sports
00:21but Gator always go back to thinking Elaine Kippen left those kids the NCAA didn't care about going
00:28and coming why do they care about it now why we got to put the restraints on the players but
00:35we
00:35won't we will never do it to the coach don't tell me it's just business everybody's getting paid now
00:40I think there's some different circumstances we got a coach that's going from team which I by the
00:44way I don't like I think there should be some sort of punishment there too with a coach going from
00:48job to job within college football as opposed to a you know a young man who's making his decision to
00:55join a professional football team and then if it doesn't work out he can go back to college
00:59I think there's a difference there great I'm with you I'm with you 100 percent but the
01:03Lane Kippen leaving at that point in time he leaving at that point in time just disgusting
01:09but now the NCAA didn't take him to court they didn't try to stop that so why do you want
01:13to
01:14mess with this it is only a one-time thing anyway if it go through Brian I've said this a
01:18bunch
01:19this world would be a lot easier if contracts were binding if you're a coach and you signed
01:28a six-year contract with a school and you suck after two years guess what school you're stuck
01:33with them and if you're a coach and you sign with a school for six years and somebody bigger
01:37comes along too bad you're stuck with them and if you're a team if you and and they should do
01:42the
01:42same thing with players and the length of their scholarships and then everybody knows there's
01:47rules and there's parameters and you have your own decision over your own time if you want to
01:53sign a four-year contract at a school and you suck it's it's you get to stay and be a
01:58scholarship
01:59player for four years and if you will sign a four-year contract and you want to go pro you
02:03can't
02:04it just make it black and white I don't care about leaving once the season over but the coach
02:12shouldn't be able to because Doug if a player just imagine that kid from Flint does
02:17from Saginaw that went up there that was the quarterback Chamblin just imagine he would have
02:21decided somebody offered him more money to leave now he would have been dragged in the mud but the
02:26coach do it is business and that's crazy to me brian thank you for the phone call you know i
02:32sit here and
02:32i say this gator and it sounds simple binding contracts but that comes with unintended consequences
02:41that i haven't even thought of every time we talk every time a rule gets changed there's something
02:46else and you know what else pisses me off and that doesn't piss me off that just makes me unplug
02:50and
02:51not pay attention and why i'm pretty much not going to pay attention to this story because fifth years
02:56the 2022 class they're eligible then they're not i mean somebody brings up a great point here scott
03:01says i bet many of these players would have stayed in school if the fifth year of eligibility was
03:07available to them prior to the draft and it's a valid point like if they knew they could come back
03:12would they have gone pro would they have been in the draft in the first place or would they have
03:17said
03:17oh no i'm coming back for my fifth year but you know it's just going to get appealed all this
03:22everything's going to get appealed there's going to be injunctions everywhere and i'm just going to
03:26i'm going to unplug i don't care it because when did things get so screwed up right because it used
03:33to
03:33be all right you had you you could red shirt and get the fifth year i don't want to say
03:38screwed up
03:38but i i things got way more complicated kated the when did it start it started with ed o'bannon
03:47suing the ncaa 20 years ago over his likeness being used in the ea sports video game well but that's
03:56that's a separate issue from eligibility that changed everything i agree it changed a lot of things but
04:02i i'm talking about from an eligibility standpoint like it used to be there was this really well
04:08defined hey you play three games and then you can be red shirted and you can't play the rest of
04:12the
04:12season but you'll you'll you'll get that fifth year of eligibility because everybody who's playing
04:16four games started suing and saying but i just missed it and and and in the case it when they
04:24when the ncaa caved on those cases that's when it starts because they don't have lost or they just
04:30lost the case but they don't have these hard and fast rules because yeah i mean to have hard and
04:34fast rules and it needs to operate like a i mean like a business with rules well the reason it's
04:40not
04:40operating like a business of rules because it's not a business there's not a collective bargain in
04:44there there might be someday between the athletes and the ncaa or whatever the governing body might be
04:51in the future but it's super complicated are we losing the audience kang do you think people
04:57just unplug with this stuff should we well don't say that out loud well inside thoughts by doug karsh
05:07i don't know if it's interesting to the to the commoner no but people care about they care about
05:12this they care about their sports just like you care about your sports right in college football
05:15and you know amateur quote-unquote sports it's completely changed it feels like i don't say
05:21overnight but now it's it's it's definitely not what it was five six seven years ago and we can sit
05:28here and complain but i honestly can genuinely say when saturdays roll around in the fall i'm as amped
05:34as i've ever been it's just the sunday through friday stuff that makes me unplug from talk about the game
05:41i think you guys i mean i wonder how like your kids doug think about college sports you know do
05:48they care as much or they do not care at all about them getting paid they just don't care that's
05:55completely out the window now and i think gradually everything else that we're complaining about is
05:58going to be two uh mike in northville is next hello mike mike what's up hey uh you know i
06:09i just wanted
06:10to say that uh i i think um college sports now especially football is in a better position than
06:16it's ever been with the changes they've made um with the playoff system and you know i understand
06:23everyone's apprehension about players getting paid but it's always been a minor league everything's just
06:27up front now and and visible and i you know as opposed to backdoor deals and some colleges being
06:34better at it than others now everyone has the same opportunity and i just i don't understand the hate
06:39for the players that are trying to do what's right for them and their families financially well i will
06:44tell you i don't know that you're getting a lot of hate out of uh this 10 to 2 here
06:48on 97 one i think
06:50that if you're talking about for the outs are you sensing and i'm just asking if there's something we
06:55need to defend ourselves against are you sensing that we are giving hate i i i feel a little bit
07:01that there's uh you know holding on to oh i like the good old days of college football and these
07:06kids
07:06should just all do it for the love of the game and that would be better if they all did
07:10that but i i
07:12think you know that's asking a lot of them when all these other institutions and ncaa universities are
07:17all getting paid these insane amounts of money and you know they're at risk that if they don't get
07:23paid now they get injured and this generational wealth type of life-changing money isn't going
07:29to come their way and i really think that it's it's just a minor league now which i think is
07:34okay
07:34and people just need to look at it as that way it's a minor league that's under the the banner
07:38of you
07:39know college sports you know what then if it's a minor league then pay them minor league salaries
07:43well they are because they're not getting paid my i mean somebody not look everybody focuses on the
07:48guys that get paid million dollars plus right there are plenty of guys that aren't getting paid that
07:53but when the minimum salary in the nfl is eight hundred and eighty five thousand dollars
07:59and you got college kids that haven't you know played it played a down a college football and
08:04they're signing you know a a multi-million dollar deal something's a little out of whack i don't mind
08:10you know at this point i'm accepting of the players getting paid but the one thing about what you just
08:15said is i i i do feel like yeah if they're it's a minor league they should get minor league
08:20salaries
08:20however my concern is i don't think it's coincidental that since everyone has been allowed
08:29to play pay players the southeastern conference has slipped what would be a logical conclusion
08:36is that perhaps perhaps i don't want to impugn anybody here but is it possible that the southeastern
08:44conference was paying players before more so more so than other obviously and i think that also
08:50met cloud your your vision on this because you're enjoying the fact that the big 10 is now raising
08:55up and the sec isn't and i got that okay that's kind of fun and little you know wink wink
09:00nod nod and
09:00and now we're saying it out loud but i don't even put that into into view it's for me it's
09:06just it this
09:07is something that should be kind of cut and dry and it is even though i say okay that they're
09:12a minor
09:12leagues they should get paid minor league salaries the problem with me saying that and i'll admit this
09:17is that it's not minor league revenues the college football that's so that's that's why it's not
09:25minor league and i i have no issue with if they were going to put rules in place if i
09:29was convinced
09:30they'd be followed i think the moment you stop let start limiting payments any school that adheres to
09:36that rule will be at a competitive disadvantage
09:41and it because others will not and don't care and never did 248-539-9797 it's carson anderson open
09:49lines in the meantime lions play tomorrow we got a lot to get into with that 97 one
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