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00:00Image was everything back then. At the time, we were like, we wish we would get more magazine covers and
00:05stuff, but now we're glad that we weren't lumped in with that glam scene.
00:09And we survived through grunge and all that stuff until we self-destructed ourselves, you know.
00:15That's a whole nother chapter, another story.
00:18Rock, metal, frog, and everything in between.
00:22Welcome to this episode of Talkin' Rock with Meltdown.
00:25Don't forget to follow the audio-only Talkin' Rock podcast on all podcast platforms.
00:30And now, it's time for today's conversation. Here's Meltdown.
00:34I had to let you hear that because I was talking to Ted Nugent last week, and he's like, you're
00:39not recording this Meltdown.
00:41And of course, he was spitting out all sorts of wisdom. How you doing, Frank?
00:45I'm doing fantastic, man. It's great to be on your show.
00:48And great to be, we were just talking about surviving, right?
00:53And it's been 40 years for Tesla, and I remember coming to RIF when we were first starting out back
00:59in the 80s.
01:00And so, here we are, 40 years later.
01:03Yeah, it's unbelievable. I think, if I'm not mistaken, doesn't the debut record, that turns 40 in December?
01:09That's right, yeah. Mechanical Resonance was released in December of 86.
01:14And I remember in December of 86, going to see the David Lee Roth show, Eat Him and Smile at
01:22the Cow Palace.
01:23And Cinderella was opening, and I had no idea at that time that we were going to end up being
01:29the next support act for David Lee Roth.
01:32He picked Modern Day Cowboy off the Headbangers Ball video on MTV and picked us to be his next support
01:39act, which was huge at the time.
01:41Yeah, I didn't realize that. You know, I used to sneak into the radio station as a kid, and I'd
01:46always play that song on, like, my demo tapes and stuff.
01:50Oh, what, Modern Day Cowboy?
01:51Yeah, yeah, because it hits so hard, and I'm like, you know, I'd make up radio stations and, you know,
01:55record myself.
01:56And this was back when I was just a young kid, you know.
01:59Oh, right. You were making demos, too. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's how, you know, that's awesome, man.
02:04Well, I'm really glad we're both here still alive to talk about it, because I was just a kid when
02:09I wrote Modern Day Cowboy.
02:11I was about 17 years old making demo tapes.
02:14And by the time we ended up getting into the studio to record it at Bearsville in New York, it
02:20did pack a punch.
02:22Yeah.
02:22You know, by the time we got done with that.
02:25And so anyway, well, it's great to be with you, Melting Down.
02:28Yeah.
02:29What else you got for me, man? Let's chat.
02:30Yeah. So that studio, that's in Mid-State New York, correct?
02:35Yeah, it's upstate where Bearsville Studio is where we recorded our first album.
02:41And they had a barn there, and we lived in that barn for about a month practicing these songs like
02:48Modern Day Cowboy and Changes and Coming At You Live that we had already played in the clubs for a
02:53couple years already.
02:54So it just really was a developmental process, like a boot camp.
02:59And it was up in the woods there, near where Woodstock, New York.
03:04Yeah.
03:05Yeah.
03:06So how does a band from the West Coast end up in New York to record it?
03:10Why didn't you guys do something somewhere in California or whatever?
03:13Well, we had done a lot of demos over the years in our hometown, Sacramento.
03:19Ronnie Montrose used to come up from the Bay Area.
03:21And then we had a manager who would take us down to L.A., and we started shopping for a
03:27record contract down there.
03:28And we actually made some demos at Cherokee Studios and, I don't know, Sunset Sound.
03:35We had done some demos down in L.A.
03:37But back then, it was the age of producers.
03:42You know, Mutt Lang was a huge producer.
03:45Bob Claremount and all these big-name producers.
03:48And we had gotten signed to the label, but no producers would agree to us because we were still pretty
03:56young.
03:56Like I said, I had just turned 18, and we were a young band, and we kept getting rejected and,
04:05in the process, writing and recording demos in California.
04:08But how we ended up in New York was Steve Thompson and Michael Barbiero and Cliff Bernstein and Peter Minch.
04:16They were from the East Coast and from New York, and they took an interest in us, and they agreed
04:22to produce the record as long as we went to New York and got away and went up in the
04:27woods to be reclusive and secluded up there, which worked out great because we were able to focus on that
04:34first album, which is my favorite Tesla album, by the way.
04:38Why is that your favorite?
04:40I mean, you just mentioned all that stuff, but is it just because all those years kind of culminated at
04:44one, or what makes it your favorite?
04:45Yeah.
04:46Well, there's a lot of things.
04:48Number one, I personally was the youngest guy in the band, but I was very driven in writing them songs
04:54with the guys.
04:55And so to be a young person and having all of that stuff happen, there's a naive innocence that you
05:05look back on and go, wow, I can't believe that I actually was a part of that thing.
05:11The other thing is, is this is before Pro Tools and before even 48 track recording.
05:19That whole record was done very stripped down, live in the studio.
05:24The band was in the room together playing live, and you can feel that energy on that first album.
05:30And it's 24 track.
05:32It's not a lot of overdubs.
05:34It's just really pure.
05:34And why did you guys decide to cover Little Susie?
05:38Well, Little Susie was a song that stuck around with us forever when Ronnie Montrose produced our first ever demo
05:49tape.
05:50I was 16 years old and Ronnie Montrose was very instrumental in coaching us and being a mentor and giving
06:00us lessons and teaching us what we could do and what we shouldn't do.
06:05And he brought that song to us because he liked the storyline about a young gal who's trying to make
06:12it in, you know, a little and it tells a story, the song does.
06:17And he thought that Jeff Keith would tell that story well.
06:21And so plus the day that era, a lot of bands were doing covers that were unknown songs that became
06:30hits.
06:31Like when Quiet Riot did Come On, Feel the Noise, you know, that was an unknown song pretty much until
06:38they had a hit with it.
06:39So it was kind of a trendy thing to do to find an obscure song and cover it your own
06:46way.
06:46So Ronnie wanted to do that with us, and he brought Little Susie to our attention.
06:51And the secret sauce to that was is playing acoustic guitar.
06:57And acoustic guitar has always kind of been the secret sauce in Tesla as far as separating us from the
07:03glam sound.
07:04We had that organic acoustic vibe in our music, you know.
07:08Yeah, that is something that I never really thought about it before.
07:11Yeah, you guys really, you know, yeah, there's not much that glam sound and there's not much the hairband thing
07:17with Tesla.
07:18You're just a straight ahead rock blues band.
07:20And you guys never really got lumped in with that, did you?
07:23Well, no, we didn't.
07:26And at the time, it was a little frustrating because, you know, image was everything back then.
07:30And we all have long hair.
07:32We still do, thankfully.
07:34You know, we all had long hair back then.
07:36But at the time, we were like, wow, man, you know, we wish we would get more magazine covers and
07:42stuff.
07:42But now, looking back, again, hindsight being 20-20, we're glad that we weren't lumped in with that glam scene.
07:48And, you know, I think really it's the 80s, that whole era, that decade, like Motley Crue says, the decade
07:56of decadence, right?
07:58The 80s were the whole era was lumped together.
08:02And, you know, we came out in the late 80s.
08:05But we survived through grunge and all that stuff until we self-destructed ourselves, you know?
08:13Yeah.
08:14That's a whole other chapter, another story.
08:17So, yeah, I just mentioned Motley.
08:19You're going to be here in Detroit actually a week from today as we record this at Pine Knot.
08:23It's going to be Extreme, then you guys, and then Motley.
08:26So going on, you're sandwiched right in between two killer bands.
08:30No kidding.
08:31And you mentioned it perfect.
08:32I've been talking about this.
08:33We are sandwiched right in the middle between these two legendary powerhouse bands.
08:38So we're stepping up our game.
08:40We practiced for it.
08:41We got our production down tight, our set list.
08:45We're doing, you know, Hang Tough, Modern Day Cowboy, Heaven's Trail, bam, bam, bam.
08:50And we got one hour of power of Tesla classics that we're going to play.
08:57And we're really excited about it.
08:59And we're really excited because Nikki Sixx personally invited us to do this tour with them.
09:06I mean, you know, and he could have picked anybody.
09:08There's so many great rocking bands.
09:10And he picked Tesla.
09:12And, you know, I think probably it's sort of a reunion, so to speak, because we toured with Motley Crue
09:17in their heyday on the Dr. Feelgood tour back in 1991 or something.
09:21So, you know, this is like a reunion with them.
09:25And then the flip side is, is this will be really the first time we've spent any time touring with
09:32Xtreme.
09:32We've never hardly done any shows with them.
09:34So it'll be great to get to know those guys.
09:36And it'll be great to get reunited with Motley Crue and be smack dab in the pressure zone.
09:44Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Right in the middle of it there.
09:46Yeah. So. So you mentioned, you know, Tesla songs will be playing, but you've got this homage record coming out
09:51this coming Friday.
09:52And what do you what do you mean playing off of that?
09:56Well, you know, because we're only doing one hour, we know that people are going to want to hear Tesla
10:03original classics.
10:04So I'm not sure that we're going to play anything off homage, but we do have an original song called
10:11Never Alone.
10:12And we are releasing a video for that. And we are. Oh, we did already release the video for that.
10:17We are. We just did a new video for a song called I Wish It Would Rain.
10:23And that video will be coming out. But unless the set time can be lengthened,
10:29I'm not sure if we're going to play any of those songs live, but I would sure love to play
10:33Spread Your Wings by Queen,
10:35because I think that's a really cool song. And the set list on homage, the song choices is so dynamic.
10:41The range of vocals on that record and the songs. I mean, we're covering Elvis Presley on there.
10:48We're covering James Brown, Hank Williams, Sr., Bob Seger. Hey, one of your local guys.
10:54Yeah. I don't know if you've heard it, but we did Night Moves on there, which that's like a Holy
10:58Grail song.
10:59And we we we rose to the challenge on that one. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah.
11:04She used me. No, what do you say? She used me. I used her. Neither one cared.
11:07I know that I think I totally botched that. But anyways, no, that's that's a great song.
11:12So I keep seeing that you guys pick these songs as kind of like for Jeff Keith.
11:18Was there any songs that you guys picked? You're like, oh, man, this is just great guitar.
11:21And it's just shredding. Or is it all around the vocals? Well, no, this album is all around the vocals.
11:26We wanted to pay homage to singers, but also to our own singer, Jeff Keith.
11:31And he's 68 years old and he can still sing such a variety of soulful songs naturally and effortlessly.
11:40And so we wanted to focus this one around the vocals.
11:43Now, what you're talking about is what we did on Real to Real, which is a covers album we did
11:49years ago.
11:49And we did rock bottom by UFO. Yeah. You know, and we we did the shredding guitar stuff on that
11:56album.
11:57But this one is centered more about vocals and paying homage to singers.
12:02Gotcha. Was there was there anything on this record that you found difficult or challenging to play yourself?
12:08I'm not really challenging as far as like on a skill level, but what was challenging and it was very
12:17important to us is paying homage to the original versions and studying the arrangements.
12:24And there's a couple songs like Night Moves and the Ballad of Curtis Lowe by Lynyrd Skynyrd to me is
12:32like a Holy Grail kind of song.
12:34And the original version is so packed with feeling and natural, I mean, greatness, you know, to to pay respect
12:44to that and not butcher it and keep it Tesla.
12:47But sounding close to the original, it took effort to to really study it and listen and listen when the
12:55headphones over and over again and go, wow, and try to imagine where was Bob Seger when he said woke
13:02last night to the sound of thunder.
13:05How far off I sat and wondered that particular section of the song right there.
13:10Oh, I'm getting goosebumps right now thinking about it.
13:13I'm like, how in the world are we going to capture that?
13:16You know, but we did.
13:17I was really happy.
13:18It came out pretty good.
13:19Well, he probably did that right here in the home of the Motor City.
13:23I know you're a Mopar guy, aren't you?
13:25Yes, sir.
13:26I love Dodge Dodge cars.
13:28I just picked up a Challenger.
13:30I got a used one here.
13:32Great deal on it.
13:33And yeah, yeah, I love Mopars.
13:35I love GMC, too.
13:37I just we just got a GMC Denali pickup truck.
13:40I don't know if those are made there or not in Detroit, but we have to haul a horse trailer
13:46around and we needed something powerful.
13:48So I got a good deal on a 2020 GMC Denali.
13:53A little private personal information there for people.
13:56How many horses you have?
13:59We have an old guy.
14:01He's an old Friesian.
14:02He's a black Friesian.
14:03He's been in a lot of Tesla videos.
14:06I wrote him in the I Want to Live video.
14:08I also did a song called Sunrise in Texas myself on my on my on my Frank Hannon tribute.
14:17Oh, yeah.
14:18Album.
14:18This is a covers album here that I did.
14:20And there's a song called Sunrise in Texas.
14:22And I rode my Friesian horse in that.
14:25My wife does cowboy sports.
14:30And I do that with her.
14:31It's called cutting.
14:32And it's a cowboy sport where you you work with cattle and we have one champion cutting horse at my
14:40wife shows.
14:41And we just sold one of her babies.
14:45And we love horses.
14:46It's been a great hobby and a great way for me to give back.
14:50I've done a lot of charity events for breast cancer in Fort Worth, Texas at the charity foundation.
14:57And I've competed against the cast of Yellowstone before riding a cutting horse.
15:05And I've worked with Bill Riddle and some and some people in the horse world.
15:09And, you know, it's been a great outlet.
15:12You truly are a modern day cowboy.
15:16Yeah, I guess so.
15:17I guess so.
15:18I'm going to write a song called Cosmic Cowboy here pretty soon because I'm working on a new album.
15:22That's going to be my next instrumental album.
15:25My last album I did was an album called Reflections.
15:28It's a guitar instrumental album.
15:31And my new one is going to have some Cosmic Cowboy stuff on it.
15:39Space out.
15:42What guitarist, what was the guitarist that you saw or what made you decide to pick up a guitar?
15:48Well, in the 70s, man, you know, 1976, I was 10 years old and guitar music was just the ultimate.
15:59You know, Frampton Comes Alive, Rick Derringer, Rock and Roll Hoochie Coo, you know, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Freebird was on the
16:07radio all the time.
16:09My first memory, though, of really hearing the guitar would have been Carlos Santana and Black Magic Woman.
16:17I remember being a little kid and hearing that Black Magic Woman and that guitar going, ooh, that's scary sounding,
16:22you know.
16:23And then I saw Jimi Hendrix in a movie when I was 10 years old, burning his guitar, setting it
16:29on fire, playing Wild Thing.
16:31And that really blew my mind, seeing how Jimi Hendrix just really just played the guitar with such physical emotion.
16:41So, you know, back when I was a kid, it would have been Jimi Hendrix.
16:45And then, you know, I'm not going to exclude Ted Nugent, of course, man.
16:50Stranglehold was was definitely one of the first songs I ever learned how to play.
16:54And, you know, so it was Ted Nugent, Rick Derringer, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Peter Frampton, Jimi Hendrix, Carlos Santana.
17:03That's about a big list of it.
17:06You know, it's so funny, you know, like I said, I saw Ted last week, the dude, 77 years old,
17:11played for two hours and 10 minutes.
17:14Yeah, we got to open for him at the Bike Week Festival there in Ocean City, Maryland last year, and
17:20he's just still rocking it, man.
17:22Oh, he's awesome.
17:23Yeah, you saw him recently.
17:24I mean, do you know anyone that's in their late 70s, has so much energy?
17:29No, no, he's an enigma.
17:32Yeah.
17:33And, you know, and naturally high, right?
17:36And I love that.
17:37He's a warrior, man, a soldier, six-string soldier.
17:40Man, no doubt.
17:42Did you have a chance to talk to him?
17:43Oh, yeah, I ran into him.
17:45We had kind of a silly riff, for lack of a better pun there, with him years ago.
17:52And our lead singer was a vegetarian for a minute, and they had a little beef there.
17:57So any time I would run into Ted, he would razz me, you know, because he thought I was part
18:02of the hippie coalition or something.
18:03And I had to let him know, bro, I am a rock and roller just like you are.
18:11Hey, tell me something unusual that the fans, I mean, you just mentioned horses and stuff like that, but something
18:15unusual that the fans would find kind of different about you, Frank?
18:20About me?
18:21Yeah.
18:21Give me something unusual.
18:22You ever been arrested?
18:23You ever been, I don't know, anything?
18:25You've been to space?
18:25I don't know what's going on with you.
18:27Man, I've been very, very blessed.
18:30I hate to use the word lucky, fortunate, that I have not been arrested.
18:36I've done some very foolish and stupid things like we all have, based around alcohol and drugs in the past.
18:44And thankfully, I have been able to avoid the long arm of the law and stay out of jail.
18:52And my stepdad used to tell me, there's one thing for sure, a guy's always going to end up in
18:57jail at one point in his life.
18:58Well, luckily, that hasn't happened to me.
19:00But no, I would think that the most obscure thing would be the horse activity, stepping on the back of
19:08a horse and connecting with that animal in a situation where you're with a herd of 50 cows.
19:18And you're walking in really slow and you got to be calm and you just walk in there and, okay,
19:23there's that black cow over there.
19:25You want to go over there and separate him and get him away, separate, really calm without making all the
19:31other ones go crazy.
19:33That right there, I mean, my heart's starting to beat just thinking about it, but it's the opposite.
19:37You have to, it's anti-intuitive.
19:40You have to bellow out because the horse can feel your energy.
19:45So, you know, and I'm also a dog lover.
19:50I've been babysitting a little miniature pin, a little mini pin lately.
19:54And there's little, little, little cutie pie.
19:57She's just licking me everywhere.
19:58And so I'm an animal lover.
20:00I was, by the way, I just thought about this as I was telling you, I was with one of
20:04your friends last week in Green Bay, Wisconsin, your friend, Ryan.
20:08Oh, I love Ryan.
20:09Yeah.
20:10Yeah, yeah, he's great, man.
20:12I told him I was talking to you and I'm like, hey, man, you know, I went and saw that
20:15venue because I'd never seen it.
20:16And I know, I know Mark Scogin and I never saw the venue before.
20:20And that venue is incredible.
20:21Is it called Epic or something?
20:23Yeah.
20:24Yeah, yeah.
20:24I got the Epic sweatshirt.
20:26Yeah.
20:26Yeah.
20:27It's incredible.
20:28Yeah.
20:28Great guy, man.
20:29He's always helped me.
20:30Even when I was in some downtimes and I needed a gig, he booked me in Appleton, Wisconsin, you know,
20:35and has brought my solo, my solo act.
20:39Me as a solo artist to the to that area.
20:42Many times.
20:42Great friend.
20:43Yeah, he's a good guy.
20:44Well, final thing here for you, Frank.
20:46So looking back, you know, you said 40 years.
20:48So what was what was the pinnacle of Tesla for you, in your opinion?
20:54Gosh, there's been many pinnacles and there's been many low points.
20:58The late 90s was a very tough low point when we had broken up for a couple of years.
21:03We should have just taken a break, but we were really burnt out because we had toured nonstop.
21:10A couple of pinnacles supporting Def Leppard in the round for the on the hysteria tour.
21:19We were performing at Texas Jam with Boston and Aerosmith and Whitesnake and Poison on June.
21:28I got the poster over here, June 22nd, 1987, in front of 90,000 people.
21:34Wow.
21:34And the night before we were playing in Lubbock, Texas, for 100 people in a club and we were taking
21:40the rental car to get to Texas Jam.
21:42You know, that was kind of a whoo.
21:46I would say the Tokyo Dome opening for Metallica in 1990.
21:51New Year's Eve was a big one.
21:54Wow.
21:55And one other high moment for me was when I was playing my guitar solo for Love Song, the intro,
22:03in Barcelona, Spain, and the whole stadium was singing it.
22:09The melody, like a soccer chant, you know, you know how they go, oh, well, they were singing Love Song.
22:20My acoustic melody while I was playing it and it was just breathtaking.
22:24So that was a pinnacle when you get 10,000 Spaniards chanting your guitar solo.
22:32Wow.
22:33That was a rush.
22:34Yeah, from a kid in California going halfway around the world and people know your songs.
22:38That's crazy.
22:39Yeah, that was very rewarding.
22:41You are from California, right?
22:43Northern California.
22:44Yes, born and bred.
22:45Yep.
22:46Up in the foothills, up in the country, outside of Sacramento, where the Old West took place there.
22:52You know, Hangtown, California, where they discovered gold in the gold rush.
22:56Yeah.
22:57And you mentioned the Hysteria Tour.
22:59Was that tour as crazy as rumor and lore has it?
23:04Yes, definitely.
23:05Definitely.
23:06The whole stage rose up and it was a whole little city under the stage.
23:11And a lot of backstage parties and craziness back then.
23:16Yeah, it was pretty insane.
23:18And I was just barely 20 years old at the time.
23:21So I was like the shy kid, thankfully, because I watched all them older guys go crazy and do some
23:27crazy stuff.
23:28I can imagine.
23:29What did your parents think about your choice of careers?
23:32Were they always behind you?
23:33Yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:35My mom was a hippie, you know, and is and still doing very well.
23:39I just saw her about an hour ago.
23:42And my grandma, my grandpa, they were very supportive of me being, because it was obvious to them when I
23:49was 10, 11, 12 years old, that guitar was my calling and I was natural at it.
23:54And I started playing gigs and leaving town when I was 14.
23:58I left high school when I was 15, took a test.
24:01So they were always very supportive of my direction because I knew early on what I wanted to do.
24:08Yeah.
24:08And then you leave high school.
24:10It's so crazy.
24:10I think about it.
24:11Sometimes you leave high school like that.
24:12And, you know, the next thing you know, you're playing with Def Leppard and there's all this stuff going on
24:16underneath the stage.
24:17So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:19It's we have opened for a lot of great artists, Metallica, Def Leppard, Great White, Poison.
24:27You know, we're still friends with Bret Michaels.
24:29We do shows with him.
24:30We've opened for the for the Nuge a bunch of times.
24:33We're doing shows with Leonard Skinner.
24:35It's been a really great ride, man.
24:37It really has.
24:38And in 2027, will we see you on a big stage with with the aforementioned Bret Michaels, perhaps?
24:45Possibly.
24:46If they Poison can get it together.
24:48I heard that we are first on their list.
24:50And that'll be a reunion, too, because we we toured with them.
24:53I watched Bret Michaels write Every Rose Has a Thorn at Soundcheck one day when we were touring with them.
24:59And before that song came out, he was writing it and I would watch, you know.
25:03Wow.
25:03And so where was that at?
25:05He was working on that song every day at Soundcheck.
25:09Yeah.
25:10What was the name of that tour?
25:12Look what the cat dragged in or it was it was one of those tours that we did with Poison
25:17in 1987.
25:19And he was working on the song and he would practice it at Soundcheck.
25:24And he did that every day for a long time.
25:26He really worked hard on that song.
25:27And that's why it's still such a great song.
25:29And 40 years later now, too.
25:32Yeah, I think Every Rose Has a Thorn is great.
25:34I think something to believe in, personally, is I think that one is as far as those mellow songs, I
25:38think I like that one better.
25:39But Every Rose Has a Thorn is obviously great.
25:41Yeah, yeah, man.
25:43Yeah, they got great songs.
25:44And that's really what it's all about when you're an artist, you know, is the songs.
25:50And thankfully, we were told early on by Ronnie Montrose and people that worked with us, write songs, a whole
25:56album of songs.
25:58Don't have an album that just has one good song on it.
26:00Make sure if you're going to put 12 songs on an album that every song is strong.
26:04And so that's what's important is the songs.
26:08Well, I'll tell you what, man, you're coming to town, like I said, at Pine Knob next Monday, the 20th.
26:13And, of course, Somaj comes out this coming Friday.
26:16And as far as new Poison stuff, no full-length albums in the future right now, just kind of playing
26:22it by ear.
26:23Oh, I don't know.
26:25Oh, you're talking about Poison?
26:26You mean Tesla?
26:26I'm sorry, Tesla.
26:27Sorry, got Poison.
26:28Well, no, we were talking about Poison, so I was thinking that, too.
26:33I don't have a crystal ball.
26:35I really don't know.
26:36You know, it depends.
26:38You know, we might get a burst of creativity while we're on tour.
26:41And one thing we have learned is that we can write and record on tour.
26:46So we might have a burst, but I can't guarantee it.
26:51You know, things have slowed down in that area a little bit, you know, because we're a lot older.
26:55And the truth is, is we've got only an hour set to play right now, you know.
27:01So we play, we write singles.
27:03And it's been a lot more fun to write singles, you know, because we can write a song and put
27:08it out.
27:08All right.
27:09Instead of waiting and trying to write 12 of them and then, you know, waiting and stuff.
27:13So, but we'll see.
27:15I'm not going to say yay or nay on that.
27:17I don't know.
27:18That's cool.
27:19Yeah, it's great that 40 years later, Tesla is still around and still making racket.
27:22Yeah, exactly.
27:24Well, Frank, thanks so much for your time, man.
27:26It's looking forward to seeing you next week here in Detroit Rock City, the home of Mopar.
27:31That's right.
27:32All right.
27:33Detroit Rock City.
27:34We'll see you soon.
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