00:00Okay, hi.
00:02All right, well, I hate it when I'm right because it's annoying.
00:06It really is.
00:08This is what we've all tried to tell you.
00:13As long as this guy's here, he's going to be tatting it up.
00:18Talking about talking?
00:19Talking about talk.
00:21Man, you hear to my left is the pride of Alpha Phi Alpha.
00:26He is the light of the world.
00:27He is Rico Beard.
00:29All right.
00:31Founders, we had an expansive conversation pre-show about that.
00:37This is how you feel when I ask you horse racing questions.
00:39I get it now.
00:40I know.
00:40It's great, isn't it?
00:42So Scoobal did some more talking.
00:45And I can't even say I have a problem with it because problem would be a singular thing.
00:50I have so many problems with everything I've read today.
00:55I'm just ready to take a flamethrower out.
00:58I have had it up to here.
01:01I can't take any more.
01:03Will you please get rid of this guy?
01:06Oh, and by the way, this is what I mean.
01:08Let me get this off my chest.
01:09Go for it.
01:10Like, you heard what Otto just did there.
01:12Now, how the hell am I going to make a five-year decision for this franchise because you beat the
01:19Royals without Bobby Witt Jr.?
01:20The Royals blow with Bobby Witt.
01:22But Bobby Witt's one of the four or five best ballplayers in the league.
01:26They don't even have him.
01:27Your games are null and void.
01:28Lloyd, you're playing a literal split squad team.
01:31Oh, but go ahead.
01:32Sell that hopium.
01:34I can't stand it.
01:35I hate everything.
01:36Brother, it's injury voodoo this year.
01:38That when they play a team, you just know star player won't be playing.
01:43So let me read you via The Athletic, Cody Stavenhagen.
01:47And there's some things in here that just make me question things.
01:51One being, quote, I knew something was wrong.
01:55I didn't know what was wrong.
01:57Regarding his elbow.
01:59If I could go back, I probably should have got an MRI in January and hammered it out to where
02:05I was done with it in the offseason.
02:07But there were other factors in play, Scoobal said.
02:11I was going through arbitration.
02:13The decision by the organization to take me to court, that probably had some impact subconsciously.
02:22Oh, dear.
02:24Okay.
02:24Well, see, now you done did it.
02:26Now you did it.
02:27First of all, they didn't take you to court, you drama queen.
02:30Stop it.
02:31This is what I mean with this guy.
02:33He has a need to be loved.
02:35He loves playing the victim.
02:37You are not a victim in this.
02:38You could have engaged in real, comprehensive, meaningful, substantive contract talks with this organization.
02:45You made a choice not to.
02:47Let's start there.
02:49Two, even if you were thinking this, you never say it.
02:56The fact that they were taking you to arbitration is the reason you didn't tell them there was already a
03:01problem with your elbow?
03:03Are you kidding me?
03:06Does this guy, is this a race with Dylan Larkin to be the most hated athlete in this town?
03:11Yes.
03:12What is this guy doing?
03:14Michael, I have no idea because when I'm reading an article, I was like, okay, so as you said, there's
03:21so many different layers and so many different things.
03:24And the entire time I'm reading it, I'm like, Tarek, what was your end game with this?
03:28What did you expect people to think after you said all of this?
03:33Like, you knew there was something wrong, but as you said, you got taken to court, you kept it to
03:40yourself, you go to the World Baseball Classic for a game, and then you get mad.
03:44Well, I don't care what these people write or say about me.
03:47And, you know, I knew I wanted to go pitch, but you knew you probably shouldn't go pitch, and you
03:51probably should have been ready for the season.
03:53You get hurt during the season.
03:56Yeah.
03:56No, here's the other one.
03:58You brought up the fans.
03:59We'll bring up the fans.
04:00And this is the craziest thing.
04:02Because my response to stuff like this is always like, well, what are you going to do?
04:07Hit somebody?
04:09Like, there's fans that come to games and still say things to me.
04:12You wouldn't say that if you were on the other side of this fence.
04:15You wouldn't look me in the face and say that.
04:18Or what?
04:19You want to lose all $32 million you just got handed this year?
04:22Go ahead.
04:23Slap a fan.
04:23See how that rolls.
04:24He went Tommy Tough Guy.
04:25No, I'm making a point.
04:27No, I get it.
04:27Like, come on, man.
04:27Words are words.
04:28It doesn't matter.
04:30You're a ball player.
04:31Just like we're idiot radio hosts.
04:33People say things all the time.
04:34What are you going to do?
04:35Hit somebody?
04:37This guy is on the road to being the most hated guy in this town.
04:42I really want to hear from Tiger fans, and I understand.
04:45Dead of summer, July 22nd, maybe we should be talking party ribs.
04:50Guys, this guy should be gone today.
04:53I swear to God.
04:55The idea that he just admitted that he knew something was wrong with his elbow, but he didn't say it
05:01because the team took him to court, a.k.a. arbitration.
05:04It's not really court.
05:06It's a business thing.
05:07And by the way, you were there because they couldn't get you to talk a real contract because you're allowing
05:13Dr. Seuss, Scott Boris, to lead you around by the nose and to make these obscene demands and do nursery
05:21rhymes.
05:23Stop me when you think I'm wrong.
05:25Anybody.
05:25Stop me if you think I'm being unfair.
05:27And the last thing you should ever do is cry about what fans say to you.
05:32The average fan can barely go see you play, but then, oh, you won't say it.
05:37If what are you going to do?
05:39Karate?
05:39What are you?
05:39The karate teacher from Napoleon Dynamite?
05:41Bow to your sensei.
05:43Stop it, Tarek.
05:44Cut it out.
05:45Tarek, let me help you out here.
05:46The second you go after a fan, the very next day, he will be lawyered up.
05:53You lost all your money.
05:54In a wheelchair, along with a neck brace and a full body cast because, well, Tarek Skubal attacked me and
06:01I need $100 million.
06:02You saw what happened with the guy who got in it with the wide receiver.
06:06He came at calf.
06:07And that was barely anything.
06:09Right.
06:10So you probably don't want to go down that route.
06:13And maybe when you felt something was wrong, maybe you shut it down, not do the whole, I'm going to
06:19go to the World Baseball Classic.
06:20I'll throw it.
06:21But no, maybe I shouldn't go.
06:22I'm going to come back.
06:24Quit writing bad things about me.
06:27It's getting to the point, Mike, it's very, it's just a lot of drama.
06:32It is just at this point, it's like.
06:34For a guy who can't get out of the fifth inning.
06:36You know what?
06:38I've had it.
06:41I'm just starting to, is the juice worth the squeeze anymore?
06:44No, but here's the problem.
06:46But wait, there's more.
06:48Second place is the steak knives because here's on the other side of it.
06:52And David, if I'm making a mistake, I'll apologize to you live on the air and during the commercial break.
06:57I know I shouldn't mix these two reports together, but damn it.
07:01He just led me down this road.
07:03Ken Rosenthal today.
07:05We are looking at Iserman 2.0 with Scott Harris.
07:10This is cowardly GM syndrome.
07:13Oh, I'll make a move, but it has to be on my term.
07:16You don't get to do that.
07:18Ready?
07:20Quote, Ken Rosenthal, according to two rival executives briefed on the Tigers' thinking,
07:25is about trading Scoobal for a controllable starting pitcher plus prospects.
07:29They want to thread the needle.
07:32Baseball executives use to describe a strategy where they both buy and sell.
07:36The way the Tigers could with Scoobal can be both difficult and disruptive.
07:41Yeah, here's your problem.
07:42When you're trading a Tarek Scoobal and you limit the marketplace of what teams can offer you,
07:50you in many ways are now taking the best possible deal off the table.
07:54It's just like Iserman.
07:55Wouldn't do a futures-driven package.
07:58Well, zabbity-doo.
07:59I want Wyatt Johnston plus picks.
08:01Cool.
08:02Now you're golfing at Edgewood.
08:04This is my problem.
08:06If Scott Harris is actually talking to teams, but he's not going to take the best deal,
08:11and it has to be this one specific asset, you likely won't get the best deal.
08:17And it's always the same.
08:19Well, the Tigers want to be competitive this year.
08:23So this is the Coney all over again.
08:26No GM in this town wants to just do the right move because they don't want to be accountable for
08:31it.
08:32There it is, man.
08:33That is the crux of the Coney.
08:35Because the second you make a move, now all of a sudden you're in the crosshairs,
08:39and you're going to be judged on this move.
08:41If you never make one, you'll never be judged.
08:44Hey, we're in the graphic.
08:48We could be a playoff team.
08:50That's success, right?
08:51In this town, it is.
08:53And you know what he's setting up?
08:55I'll tell you what he's setting up right now.
08:57Well, we did our due diligence, but nobody could offer us what we felt was fair market value.
09:04All because you're searching for one thing.
09:08And what if, for instance, a team like the Dodgers, let's say the Dodgers don't,
09:12I know they could trade you Sheehan, but just work with me.
09:14The Dodgers have six really high-level outfielders, including a guy like Azair Hope.
09:22If you're not willing to be malleable to what these teams are offering, you're limiting what you can get.
09:31Yes.
09:31So you start with Scooble admitting that the fact the team took him to court, basically he was butthurt,
09:40and he didn't mention something was wrong with his elbow because of it.
09:43Then you get to the part where, basically, he doesn't need, he doesn't care what you have to say about
09:51the WBC.
09:52I don't need to beg for forgiveness.
09:54I don't care what they say.
09:55It doesn't matter.
09:56Yet, in the next breath, Captain Needy says, there's fans that come to games and say things to me.
10:02But you just said you don't care.
10:04You would not say that if you were on the other side of the fence.
10:07You wouldn't look me in the face and say that.
10:09Or what?
10:10What, are you going to body slam somebody?
10:13A fan would be pumped up if you broke their jaw.
10:16They'd own you.
10:17So just, how about we don't do that?
10:19Screaming, back in the game!
10:21Back in the game, baby!
10:22How was your day, honey?
10:24Well, we rich.
10:25I got my shoulders separated by Tarek Scooble.
10:28We rich!
10:29Don't care.
10:29I mean, you're retired.
10:32Call your boss.
10:33You're done working.
10:34We're about to get paid.
10:36Guys, where are you at with Scooble?
10:37I mean, this guy is really becoming incredibly unlikable.
10:42And I've told you, as long as he's here, he's going to keep talking.
10:48And it's not going to stop.
10:50And maybe Scott Harris, you know what?
10:52To go full circle with Steve when out there asking for Wyatt Johnson, maybe he'll ask for Wyatt Lankford.
10:58And players.
10:59He's hurt.
11:00He had 1,000 OPS before he hurt his hamstring again.
11:04We'll just get players that we could have had.
11:06I know.
11:07Look, man.
11:08I am at a point now.
11:10And I've told you.
11:12They can do whatever they want.
11:14Wake me up when the deadline happens.
11:16But, brother, if I own the team, which I assuredly do not, this guy would be gone.
11:22I'm not dealing with a drama queen.
11:24I'm not dealing with neediness.
11:27I'm not dealing with a guy who wouldn't realistically engage in contract talks, but then wants to tell me how
11:33to run my franchise.
11:34I'm not doing it.
11:35But the other problem is there's always an effing caveat in this town with these GMs.
11:40Oh, Scott Harris might talk to a few teams, but he wants to thread the needle and still be competitive
11:47and has to have.
11:49It's like, why do I need a controllable pitcher?
11:52My pitching's fine.
11:55You need somebody to replace Skubal is why.
11:58Yeah, his name is Troy Melton.
12:01And you know who's next in line for that?
12:04Jackson Jobe.
12:05And you know who's next in line for that?
12:06Reese Olsen.
12:07And you know who's next in line for that?
12:09Montero.
12:10Like, man, that ain't my problem.
12:12If someone's offering me legitimate right-handed position players, you think I'm going to say no to that because I'm
12:20drawing a red line on this?
12:21This is my problem.
12:23It's setting up Harris not to deal him because he can come out and go, teams just didn't have what
12:29we offered.
12:29Takes two to tango.
12:31With a different article.
12:33This tells me there's going to be no movement because Skubal's going to be here.
12:39Harris is not going to do anything.
12:41He's going to come out and say, I tried.
12:43Especially two now.
12:44You don't even have Bobby Witt playing for the Royals.
12:45There's four straight wins.
12:46It's just, I am in disbelief at how a team that's seven games under .500 is referred to as a
12:54lock to make the playoffs.
12:55It's bizarre to me.
12:57But I want to know what you guys think.
13:00Because Skubal, basically, crying about how hard his life is, knew something was wrong with his elbow, didn't say anything
13:08because the team, quote, took him to court.
13:10Oh, wah.
13:11Yeah, nice court date.
13:13You walked out with $32 million.
13:15I'm sure that's the same as the guy paying his speeding ticket today.
13:20This is a problem I have.
13:21Most athletes just aren't smart enough to make public statements.
13:24Don't do it.
13:25Don't do it.
13:26Have a statement prepared for you.
13:29I didn't understand the purpose of that article.
13:32Or, I guess, why the article just came out.
13:34Oh, oh.
13:36Oh, boy.
13:36You know what?
13:37Oh, boy.
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