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00:00:09Music
00:00:23A computer program created at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem 10 years ago
00:00:28He was looking for hidden clues in the Bible
00:00:32It arranged some terms like a giant word search.
00:00:35And he tried to focus on certain coincidences.
00:00:38One of them was surprising, constant
00:00:41End of Days, Armageddon, nuclear holocaust and a date, 2006
00:00:46Let's try to find out, let's try to know what's true and what's false.
00:00:50On a highly controversial topic: the secret code of the Bible
00:00:53But this will be just one of the stories we'll be covering on Cuarto Milenio tonight.
00:00:57Because there are others that are equally surprising
00:01:06Tonight we will relive one of the most amazing stories that has happened in our country
00:01:10It happened in an old kitchen
00:01:12Where a sinister voice tormented neighbors, scientists, and security forces
00:01:18The press dubbed the phenomenon the Zaragoza Goblin
00:01:23End of the world, 2006
00:01:26The message is repeated in the secret code of the Bible
00:01:29We are dealing with a mere mathematical game
00:01:33Or really in the holy scriptures
00:01:35The past and future of humanity have always been written.
00:01:40Isidoro Arias dreamed of sailing around the world.
00:01:44Traveling completely alone
00:01:46But one lazy night, the ship was filled with strange visions
00:01:50That caused something unexpected
00:01:53And of course, we'll analyze the best images of the mystery.
00:01:57They keep arriving at the Cuarto Milenio ship
00:02:06The case of Zaragoza
00:02:08Late October 1934
00:02:10At first, just a brief mention in the regional press
00:02:14But how many briefs end up becoming a matter of public order?
00:02:18What no one could have suspected in that house in the center of the Aragonese capital
00:02:22It was that dozens of people were going to gather at the gates
00:02:26Many of them were police officers, others were engineers
00:02:28Even the civil governor Don Otero Mirelis
00:02:30What was happening on that second floor?
00:02:33Apparently, it had already started a few nights before.
00:02:36A voice, a kind of moan, a lament, a shriek
00:02:39She had been climbing those small stairs step by step.
00:02:43Moreover, there are those who say
00:02:45That all the neighbors on each of the floors
00:02:47They began to ask each other questions.
00:02:49Have you heard that?
00:02:51It could be the wind, the howling of the air
00:02:54A bad pipe is hooked up
00:02:56Everyone thought, each to themselves, of a hypothesis
00:02:59And they closed their doors
00:03:01And they lay down
00:03:03Nobody could have suspected, as I say
00:03:04That the next day the police were going to land there
00:03:07All of that was going to turn into something much more macabre
00:03:10Something that even ended with the death of several people
00:03:12And we're going to tell you about it here.
00:03:14This is the story of the Goblin of Zaragoza
00:03:18Zaragoza awoke in the cold autumn of 1934
00:03:21With the same uncertainty that accompanied Spain in a turbulent era
00:03:25Civil war was near.
00:03:27And social tension was becoming palpable in the streets.
00:03:30It was a dark time.
00:03:32In which there was barely room for a smile
00:03:34However
00:03:35Early November
00:03:37A strange phenomenon occurred
00:03:38Which made it so that for two months
00:03:40All evils will be forgotten
00:03:42Before that dark prodigy
00:03:45The lamentations
00:03:46Because in the beginning they are
00:03:47There are pitiful ones
00:03:49A voice that sounded effeminate
00:03:51A voice that then changes to male
00:03:54But at first they are laments
00:03:56They are moans
00:03:56Then Maria begins to listen
00:03:58Come
00:04:00Dragging the words
00:04:01And that's precisely when he decides to warn.
00:04:04To the lady of the house
00:04:05To the owner of the building
00:04:06And from there
00:04:08Well, they're taking it more seriously
00:04:10And they call the police
00:04:10It all started on the second floor
00:04:12From a property located on Gasol Street
00:04:14With Gotor number 2
00:04:15A chilling laugh
00:04:17Like a prolonged laugh
00:04:19He made many neighbors come out
00:04:21To the main staircase
00:04:22They looked at each other
00:04:24But there
00:04:25There was nobody left.
00:04:26So
00:04:2770 years ago
00:04:29This nightmare began
00:04:38Today nothing remains
00:04:39From the old house
00:04:41Well, it was demolished decades ago.
00:04:42Just the name of the current building
00:04:45It evokes that bygone era.
00:04:48Elf
00:04:48It will forever be a place
00:04:50Marked by that voice from beyond the grave
00:04:52That caused a total shock
00:04:54That all the floors came out
00:04:56Where they lived
00:04:56To the staircase
00:04:57Just as they were caught
00:04:58Then
00:04:58At 5 in the morning
00:04:59Well, as we all were
00:05:01And that's it.
00:05:02All hell broke loose.
00:05:04They began to see
00:05:05What was happening?
00:05:05And at noon
00:05:06They called the police
00:05:07That's when it's already
00:05:08From the same floor
00:05:10Where I was
00:05:11He said cowards
00:05:11Cowards
00:05:12You called the police
00:05:13Cowards
00:05:14Cowards
00:05:14Nobody could believe it
00:05:15What was happening
00:05:17But those phrases
00:05:18Complaints and threats
00:05:20They emerged in front
00:05:21From dozens of witnesses
00:05:22It was a deep voice
00:05:24That came out through
00:05:25From the old stove
00:05:26From the kitchen
00:05:26According to what was certified
00:05:28The official complaint
00:05:29The first person
00:05:30Who was a witness
00:05:30From the facts
00:05:31She was the maid
00:05:32From the house
00:05:33Pascual Alcocer
00:05:34A humble woman
00:05:36And simple
00:05:36That when he approached
00:05:37His hand to that stove
00:05:38He could hear
00:05:39A lament
00:05:40That emerging
00:05:40Out of nowhere
00:05:41He said
00:05:42You're hurting me.
00:05:44Next
00:05:45The girl
00:05:45He pressed the switch
00:05:46Leaving everything in darkness
00:05:49And that entity
00:05:51The macabre joker
00:05:52He responded instantly.
00:05:55Light
00:05:55That I don't see
00:05:56The agents took over the house
00:05:58An army of bricklayers
00:05:59He looked at all the pipes
00:06:01Electricity
00:06:03Gas
00:06:05I think they disarmed
00:06:06From top to bottom the floor
00:06:07To see
00:06:08Where could it come from?
00:06:09That mysterious voice
00:06:10And they didn't find anything.
00:06:12Really
00:06:12The news
00:06:13From that mysterious voice
00:06:14He ran through the streets of Zaragoza
00:06:16Like gunpowder
00:06:17And thousands of onlookers
00:06:18They crowded together every day
00:06:20In front of the number 2
00:06:21From Gascón de Gotor Street
00:06:23They were eager people
00:06:25From hearing the miracle
00:06:26Or to face
00:06:27What they believed
00:06:27A malignant entity
00:06:29A whole army of wise men
00:06:30He was recruited
00:06:31To solve the enigma
00:06:32At the same time as the newspapers
00:06:34Aragonese
00:06:34And from all over Spain
00:06:35They were reporting on the event
00:06:37Giving it big headlines
00:06:39So popular
00:06:40It became so popular
00:06:40The mystery of the goblin
00:06:41That even went beyond
00:06:43Our borders
00:06:44Being on the cover
00:06:45In the London newspaper
00:06:46The Times
00:06:47Meanwhile
00:06:48That voice
00:06:49He continued to defy
00:06:50With his ingenuity
00:06:51And his wisdom
00:06:52To all who dared
00:06:53To get closer there
00:06:54The authorities
00:06:56They cordoned off the area
00:06:57And all the inspections
00:06:58They yielded a null result
00:07:00The question was obvious.
00:07:01Who was hiding?
00:07:03Behind those voices
00:07:04That seemed
00:07:05Otherworldly?
00:07:12At a given moment
00:07:13On one of those nights
00:07:14On call
00:07:14The two armed police officers
00:07:16Those in charge of guarding
00:07:17The enchanted stove
00:07:18That's what the press called him.
00:07:20They asked
00:07:21And they began to talk
00:07:22With that entity
00:07:23That joker
00:07:24They told him
00:07:25Do you want money?
00:07:26That voice
00:07:27Whatever it is
00:07:27According to what they say
00:07:28The documents
00:07:29Said
00:07:29No
00:07:31Do you want a job?
00:07:32No
00:07:33And the police inspector
00:07:35He dared to say
00:07:36So what do you want, man?
00:07:37He said
00:07:38Nothing
00:07:39I am not a man
00:07:41Juan Jesús Vallejo
00:07:42It has been ordered
00:07:42To reproduce
00:07:44Almost to the millimeter
00:07:45What was a story
00:07:46In which have passed
00:07:47Already 70 years
00:07:48Of long mystery
00:07:49Today it still is
00:07:50A Spanish X-File
00:07:51Juan Jesús
00:07:51Welcome
00:07:52Good night
00:07:52Good night
00:07:53Because it seems that
00:07:54There were even people
00:07:55That they tried
00:07:57To be protagonists
00:07:58In the sense
00:07:58To blame someone
00:07:59They tried to search
00:08:00A scapegoat
00:08:01Quickly
00:08:02To silence this story
00:08:04It seems that it was
00:08:04The main reason
00:08:05From the authorities
00:08:06As you mentioned before
00:08:07This case ends up becoming
00:08:09It's already more than just a phenomenon
00:08:10Paranormal itself
00:08:10That in a matter of
00:08:13Well, it's a sign of social unrest.
00:08:14That there was
00:08:14Because there were more than 3,000 people
00:08:15On the street
00:08:16In a turbulent time
00:08:17The case comes to light
00:08:19To the pages
00:08:19From The Times newspaper
00:08:20And then, well
00:08:21Well, let's just say the authorities
00:08:22They decide to cut this short
00:08:24For the sake of health
00:08:24So they rule in principle
00:08:26To a psychiatrist
00:08:28The director of the psychiatric hospital
00:08:29From Zaragoza
00:08:29And then to two judges
00:08:31That they close the book on the matter
00:08:32On the matter
00:08:33And that they blame
00:08:34To a person
00:08:34Which ended up being
00:08:35A true victim
00:08:35Of the mystery
00:08:36Not because of the mystery
00:08:37He would have been cruel to her
00:08:38But because society
00:08:39And the judges
00:08:40They had to find someone to blame.
00:08:42And they ruined his life
00:08:43They ruined his life
00:08:44He was a victim of the mystery
00:08:46And we'll see.
00:08:47On the front pages
00:08:47From that November of '34
00:08:49Like the matter
00:08:50The goblin was
00:08:50Sincerely
00:08:51Increasing
00:08:52A joker
00:08:53A madman
00:08:54Someone who wanted to scare
00:08:56For some reason
00:08:56Due to some debt
00:08:57For some revenge
00:08:58To the inhabitants
00:08:59From that floor
00:09:00From Gascón de Gotor Street
00:09:01Because?
00:09:02The truth is that
00:09:03It seems difficult to us
00:09:04But we wanted to ask
00:09:05To sound specialists
00:09:07And in radio technique
00:09:08If it could have been built
00:09:10Perhaps in that year 34
00:09:11Some device
00:09:12That got stuck in some pipe
00:09:14From another house
00:09:15Or somehow
00:09:16Which seems difficult to us
00:09:17Incredible
00:09:18They could reproduce
00:09:19Human voices
00:09:20In some sense
00:09:21But remember one thing
00:09:22It wasn't just voices
00:09:23The alleged goblin
00:09:25The entity
00:09:25Paralitergia
00:09:27What the experts said
00:09:28In parapsychology
00:09:28Not only could I pronounce
00:09:30Names or threats
00:09:31But I saw
00:09:32What was happening
00:09:33When the light went out
00:09:34It said light
00:09:35That I don't see
00:09:35Sometimes
00:09:36He could even guess
00:09:37The number of people
00:09:38That they were in that kitchen
00:09:39What was cooking?
00:09:40Never a truer word spoken
00:09:41In that place?
00:09:42Being hollow
00:09:43The fireplace
00:09:43The sound
00:09:44It's easier
00:09:44Let it spread
00:09:46Around there
00:09:46But of course
00:09:47We would need to know
00:09:48What dimensions
00:09:48It has a chimney
00:09:49If there is any kind
00:09:50Interruption
00:09:51On the way
00:09:52Some kind
00:09:52Narrowing
00:09:53But it's easy
00:09:55Let it spread
00:09:56From one place to another
00:09:56Being hollow
00:09:57Much easier
00:09:58From one room
00:09:59To another
00:09:59And if we talk
00:10:00From an old house
00:10:01That the partitions
00:10:02They tend to be more
00:10:03Thicker
00:10:04From modern construction
00:10:06It would be much easier.
00:10:07That he communicated through there
00:10:09Let's try
00:10:10Understand it
00:10:10In the second part
00:10:11From one of the
00:10:12The Great X-Files
00:10:13That despite
00:10:15From official information
00:10:16Despite the isolation
00:10:17From the house
00:10:18Despite everything
00:10:19Security measures
00:10:20It gives the impression
00:10:21That never
00:10:22It was resolved
00:10:27The mystery of the goblin
00:10:29It increased day by day.
00:10:30At the same time
00:10:31That the unease was growing.
00:10:32Among the maximums
00:10:33Provincial authorities
00:10:34Given the impossibility
00:10:36On behalf of the judge
00:10:37To clarify the facts
00:10:38He is the famous psychiatrist
00:10:39Joaquín Jimeno Riera
00:10:41The one who tries
00:10:42To clarify what is happening there
00:10:43To do this
00:10:44Ask thorough questions
00:10:46To the maid of the house
00:10:47Pascual Alcocer
00:10:48And it determines
00:10:49What is this?
00:10:50Through a phenomenon
00:10:51Mixture of hysteria
00:10:52And of ventriloquism
00:10:53Unconscious
00:10:54The one that causes
00:10:55The phenomenon
00:10:56Without knowing it
00:10:57The fact that someone
00:10:58Unconsciously
00:10:59To be able to utter words
00:11:01It's not entirely
00:11:02Disposable
00:11:03That is to say
00:11:04It is likely
00:11:05That some people
00:11:06With a profile
00:11:07Own
00:11:08Hysteriform
00:11:10That is to say
00:11:10Characteristic of hysteria
00:11:11And without being aware
00:11:14And without being aware
00:11:14Of that
00:11:14It aired at a certain point
00:11:16Messages
00:11:17He uttered words
00:11:18It aired at a certain point
00:11:20Phrases
00:11:21That could mislead
00:11:23At a given moment
00:11:24To the rest of the attendees
00:11:25They blamed him
00:11:26To Pascuala
00:11:29And he took advantage
00:11:30And he took her away.
00:11:30A trip
00:11:30In the car
00:11:31To the swamp
00:11:32As if under the pretext
00:11:33Picking vegetables
00:11:34And bring things from her
00:11:35And he kept talking
00:11:36Here's the goblin
00:11:36Not being there
00:11:37So,
00:11:37That was ruled out.
00:11:38Despite
00:11:40Poor thing
00:11:40They turned her into a shop
00:11:41So it was her.
00:11:42Or it wasn't her
00:11:43The neighbors
00:11:44They were evacuated
00:11:44The apple
00:11:46Whole isolated
00:11:46The architects
00:11:48From the building
00:11:48They checked every corner
00:11:50And the army
00:11:51Cut off any
00:11:51Communication
00:11:52By waves
00:11:53They thought they had solved it
00:11:55The mystery
00:11:55Blaming the maid
00:11:57However
00:11:57When everything
00:11:59It seemed resolved
00:12:00And in presence
00:12:01Of the guards
00:12:01Assault
00:12:02That voice
00:12:03It emerged again
00:12:05With a terrible threat
00:12:06Screaming
00:12:08Insulting
00:12:08And swearing to kill
00:12:10To all inhabitants
00:12:11From the house
00:12:12Pascual Alcocer
00:12:13I was already very far away
00:12:14But that diabolical voice
00:12:16He was still there
00:12:18The technicians
00:12:20They return with their hearts
00:12:21In a fist
00:12:22And before the engineer
00:12:23In charge of all the works
00:12:25It happens again
00:12:26Something amazing
00:12:27That voice
00:12:28Whoever it was
00:12:29He seemed to guess
00:12:31Impossible data
00:12:32About the structure
00:12:33Internal of that place
00:12:34He was a bricklayer
00:12:36He was one of those who
00:12:37He had intervened
00:12:37In construction
00:12:38From the building
00:12:39It was with his juice
00:12:41Your palette
00:12:41His pickaxe
00:12:42Its peak
00:12:44To measure
00:12:44How many sides
00:12:45They were needed
00:12:46So as not to bring
00:12:46At home
00:12:47That it was inhabited
00:12:47Excessive material
00:12:48But what is fair
00:12:50And he started measuring
00:12:51And when I was measuring
00:13:05Said
00:13:33That gentleman
00:13:36That remains alive
00:13:37That remains alive in her mind
00:13:37And that she will never forget
00:13:39There was no family life there.
00:13:41Not even a family bed
00:13:42No family life
00:13:43Nothing.
00:13:44We depended on whether or not there were people there.
00:13:46On the floor
00:13:46Because a police couple
00:13:48On duty in Satos
00:13:50It was fixed there
00:13:51Fix it there in the kitchen
00:13:53And another one in the front courtyard
00:13:54And another one in the street
00:13:55And around the house
00:13:56Everything was there
00:13:57I told him
00:13:57Let's go, Dad
00:13:58Let's go to bed
00:13:58I was half asleep
00:13:59This guy is crazy.
00:14:01I mean, I told him
00:14:02And he jumps at me a few seconds later.
00:14:04Chalao
00:14:05Not small
00:14:07A voice
00:14:07Those that
00:14:08That left us
00:14:09The ausa everything
00:14:09Except for me
00:14:10Because I say
00:14:10Well
00:14:11Spoken to me
00:14:13But otherwise
00:14:14He left them
00:14:15It's the last sentence
00:14:16I heard him
00:14:17After two months
00:14:18Of voices
00:14:19Messages and threats
00:14:20That voice
00:14:21It went out forever
00:14:23And for no apparent reason.
00:14:25As if never
00:14:26It would have existed
00:14:28However
00:14:28Its echo
00:14:29He accompanied her for life
00:14:30To several characters
00:14:31That were involved
00:14:33One way or another
00:14:34In those strange events
00:14:36Even indirectly
00:14:38That voice
00:14:38It was also charged
00:14:39A victim
00:14:40The maid of the house
00:14:42He went to his grave
00:14:43With the stigma
00:14:44Of a guilt
00:14:45That he never had
00:14:47I have had the opportunity
00:14:48From talking to Pascuala
00:14:49And curiously
00:14:50When I asked him
00:14:51Who did the voices?
00:14:52She answered me
00:14:54The wall
00:14:55For her
00:14:56The voices
00:14:56The wall made them
00:14:58It was a huge problem
00:14:59In his life
00:15:00She ended up being locked up
00:15:01At home
00:15:01Years without going out
00:15:03Not even
00:15:03Let's do the shopping
00:15:04Because curiously
00:15:05People still
00:15:06He was chasing her
00:15:07To ask
00:15:08Not even the media
00:15:09Communication
00:15:10Even practically
00:15:11Last year
00:15:11That died
00:15:12That voice
00:15:13That hoarse voice
00:15:13Intelligent
00:15:14It will never return
00:15:15Listen
00:15:16He went away
00:15:17Who knows where
00:15:18Perhaps weary
00:15:20For a world
00:15:20That I would never understand her
00:15:22Today
00:15:23In the 21st century
00:15:25We live in a time
00:15:26Where they no longer have a place
00:15:27These strange
00:15:28And incomprehensible fables
00:15:30However
00:15:31That no one can deny
00:15:33Those events
00:15:35That motivated
00:15:35Extensive research
00:15:36Official
00:15:37For absurd reasons
00:15:38That they may seem to us today
00:15:40They really happened
00:15:41The old building
00:15:44It collapsed
00:15:44As the only way
00:15:45To put a definitive end to it
00:15:47To the mystery
00:15:47That kept
00:15:48In its entrails
00:15:49A mystery
00:15:50Regardless of who it may offend
00:15:52Nobody could solve it
00:16:02The guilty maid
00:16:04But she was
00:16:06Many kilometers away
00:16:06From the house of Gascon of Gotor
00:16:08However
00:16:09The press stopped talking
00:16:11There is a fact
00:16:12Really interesting
00:16:13That I came across
00:16:14Also in this investigation
00:16:15The police
00:16:16He invited a medium
00:16:17This one
00:16:18Of recognized prestige
00:16:19Asunción Jiménez Álvarez
00:16:2034 years old
00:16:21To participate
00:16:22In a species
00:16:23Meeting
00:16:24With the supernatural
00:16:25It would be one of those scenes
00:16:26That so many times
00:16:27We have seen in the cinema
00:16:27Talking table scene
00:16:29What was his/her name?
00:16:30Or of people
00:16:31Joining the thumbs
00:16:32And concentrating
00:16:33Waiting for something
00:16:35Surely
00:16:35That meeting
00:16:36I had a reason.
00:16:37Very light
00:16:37Contact the entity
00:16:38Supernatural
00:16:39Perhaps I already thought that.
00:16:40The police
00:16:41That he had been given
00:16:42From the soul of that house
00:16:43Be that as it may
00:16:44Asunción Jiménez Álvarez
00:16:45He fell suddenly
00:16:46In a collapse
00:16:47After
00:16:48Always according to
00:17:18Some witnesses were present
00:17:19He accuses her of having her parents
00:17:20They had practiced witchcraft
00:17:21And the demons
00:17:48Do they ever go to Zaragoza?
00:17:49That wonderful city
00:17:50Walk through its city center
00:17:52Stop
00:17:53If possible
00:17:53A few seconds
00:17:54In front of the street
00:17:55Gascon of Gotor
00:17:55Number 2
00:17:56And think
00:17:57That building
00:17:57Even if it's new
00:17:58It harbored a mystery
00:17:59No solution
00:18:00The only memory
00:18:01Those golden letters
00:18:02Building
00:18:03Elf
00:18:04And I summon them
00:18:05So that they don't get lost
00:18:06The story
00:18:06Very sad indeed.
00:18:08Also breathtaking
00:18:09By Isidoro Arias
00:18:10A man who had a dream
00:18:11Around the world
00:18:12Embarking on his sailboat
00:18:14Alone
00:18:15Everything was going
00:18:15Full steam ahead
00:18:16Never a truer word spoken
00:18:17And suddenly
00:18:18One night something happened
00:18:20Something that is indeed a mystery
00:19:02From Isidore
00:19:17Some journalists of the unknown
00:19:19We share and reflect on our memories, experiences, and reflections.
00:19:22Always in field notebooks like this one
00:19:24We share that with the sailors.
00:19:26They are men who always, especially when night falls
00:19:29They reflect what the day has been like in what is called a logbook.
00:19:32Isidoro Arias's had some strange inscriptions
00:19:37They seemed like the symptoms of someone feverish, someone asking for help.
00:19:40He spoke of mysterious beings
00:19:42They are the product of delirium, loneliness, or illness.
00:19:46But he saw them, they were real, they were there
00:19:48What happened to that trip?
00:19:50With that trip interrupted
00:19:51Our colleague Francisco Contreras has tried
00:19:54Two years after these events, seeking an answer
00:20:07Isidoro Arias had a special relationship with the sea
00:20:10Since the 1980s
00:20:12His passion was solely and exclusively focused on sailing
00:20:23The magic of the waves
00:20:25And the enchantment of sea voyages
00:20:27They surrounded Isidore
00:20:28That he had crossed the Atlantic Ocean ten times
00:20:33Isidoro Arias was a person with enormous knowledge of the sea.
00:20:37Besides, he loved sailing.
00:20:39I had done other experiments
00:20:44Transoceanic
00:20:44And above all, he was excited to enjoy the sea
00:20:48The sailor trained hard to face the loneliness of the long and hard stages that awaited him.
00:20:54A loneliness that became his greatest enemy every day
00:20:58That was what worried him most.
00:21:00Because he had to be very strong psychologically to avoid going crazy
00:21:05He meticulously prepared his adventure and the vessel with which he would undertake the voyage.
00:21:10Isidore
00:21:11I know he spent three years preparing for the trip
00:21:15Studying the routes, the sea currents that would be most favorable to him
00:21:20Which ports would I have to avoid if I didn't stop there?
00:21:25Because it was dangerous
00:21:28I have two points of contention.
00:21:32One meteorological and one for my own safety
00:21:35One is in Indonesia with piracy
00:21:37I actually have to go armed even
00:21:39I do not carry firearms.
00:21:41But I do carry blank-firing guns and such.
00:21:46And that's regarding piracy.
00:21:49And then I have a problem, another stage that is more conflictive
00:21:52What is meteorology?
00:21:53I'll have her in Cape Town
00:21:55Because in Cape Town I'm going against the grain.
00:21:57The famous Roaring Forties
00:21:59We had a small reception
00:22:01And a small farewell to Isidoro
00:22:03On their way out, right?
00:22:04He seemed very excited, very eager.
00:22:07March 28, 2001
00:22:09Under the legend, there is only one Andalusia.
00:22:12Isidoro departed from the Malaga marina of Benalmadena
00:22:15To begin your adventure
00:22:17And thus make one of their dreams come true.
00:22:20I realized I was in the presence of a dreamer.
00:22:23And a very kind person.
00:22:26With a brutal sense of humor
00:22:29And above all, what shocked me
00:22:31It was her determination to fight for a dream
00:22:33Against all odds, with whatever it took
00:22:36But after six months
00:22:37Something unexpected happened
00:22:39His family members began receiving enigmatic communications
00:22:43And not very reassuring
00:22:45Isidoro Arias seemed nervous
00:22:47Something wasn't right.
00:22:49And the situation became alarming.
00:22:51March 25, 2003
00:22:54They received a final statement
00:22:57His message described a nightmare.
00:23:00Isidore described how small beings
00:23:02They had been boarding their sailboat for several days.
00:23:05What would he be seeing, or what wouldn't he be seeing?
00:23:08That man, my father, Mr. Arias
00:23:10To be so upset at that moment
00:23:13And to be this worried
00:23:15And sending out news reports that he's seeing strange beings
00:23:20Or maybe he's seeing dwarves.
00:23:23Or that they speak to him
00:23:25Or that he's not seeing it but he's hearing it
00:23:27In any case, it seems to me that Tuga is having a very hard time.
00:23:31After several years of silence
00:23:33The Cuarto Milenio team has managed to interview Mario Arias
00:23:36Son of the missing sailor
00:23:38What did Isidoro Arias tell them in that message?
00:23:42Why had he cut off communication?
00:23:44Who were those strange beings he was talking about?
00:23:47It seemed that he saw or heard strange beings
00:23:50Well, tiny
00:23:51Well
00:23:52These are things we cannot control.
00:23:55Figment of the imagination
00:23:57Isidoro Arias
00:23:58Victim of exhaustion
00:24:00And possibly sick with malaria
00:24:02She was facing her worst nightmare.
00:24:05To the devils of his mind
00:24:08I don't know why it works like that.
00:24:09But the risk does exist.
00:24:11That loneliness can affect you
00:24:13The family and friends of Isidoro Arias
00:24:17They began their search
00:24:18Nautical associations and marinas
00:24:21They joined forces in the searches
00:24:23And even officially
00:24:25The governments of different countries collaborated
00:24:28Like Brazil, South Africa or the United Kingdom
00:24:31Well, 38 days passed
00:24:33So
00:24:34I know that the family went to the Andalusian Regional Government
00:24:38He went to every ministry in the government
00:24:43Everyone
00:24:44Because they also had an idea
00:24:45And it was that
00:24:47They believed it was very important
00:24:48That an airplane was flying over the area
00:24:50To find it
00:24:51And maritime rescue
00:24:53He said he was doing everything he could.
00:24:55Because they had no means
00:24:56To send abroad
00:24:59May 1, 2003
00:25:0138 days after that disturbing message
00:25:04His ship appeared 600 miles away
00:25:07From the island of Saint Helena
00:25:08In the Gulf of Guinea
00:25:10The crew of the French fishing vessel Freco
00:25:12He located the ship at position 5 degrees and 13 minutes north
00:25:164 degrees and 10 minutes west
00:25:18But there was no trace of Isidoro Arias
00:25:21There is no trace of Isidoro's body
00:25:27And there was his documentation.
00:25:29Your survival kit
00:25:32What I was saying about leftover food in good condition
00:25:35And all that's missing is the Zodiac and him
00:25:37The islander's sailboat was moved to the port of Avillán
00:25:41On the Ivory Coast
00:25:42And with the investigations
00:25:44Commanded by the Spanish consul of Tejada
00:25:47The first questions arose
00:25:49The logbook
00:25:51Written by Isidoro Arias
00:25:53He detailed all the events
00:25:55Events that occurred during the voyage
00:25:56It reflected how the weather conditions
00:25:59They were favorable
00:26:00And the nautical equipment was in perfect condition
00:26:03Which proved that she had not been a victim
00:26:05Of acts of piracy
00:26:06Nor were there any signs of neglect
00:26:09From the vessel
00:26:09But one thing
00:26:11It alarmed the experts
00:26:13The Zodiac
00:26:14A small boat
00:26:15Which I used for short trips
00:26:17Or as a lifeline
00:26:19He had also disappeared
00:26:20Without leaving a trace
00:26:22Everything was in order
00:26:23There wasn't either.
00:26:25Symptoms
00:26:26Had there been an approach
00:26:28Nor if there had been
00:26:30A struggle
00:26:32A struggle
00:26:33Nothing.
00:26:34Something like that
00:26:34Where was Isidoro Arias?
00:26:37It was a hallucination
00:26:38As a result of high fevers
00:26:40That Isidore saw
00:26:41Like little beings and imps
00:26:43They climbed up the hull of the ship
00:26:44To harass him
00:26:45What really happened
00:26:47During those days at sea?
00:26:49It caught my attention
00:26:50That my father abandoned ship
00:26:51Because it's the safest option.
00:26:53So
00:26:53However much you may have
00:26:55Some type of feverish process
00:26:57That makes you imagine things
00:26:58You'll always be more relaxed on a boat.
00:27:01He truly experienced an encounter
00:27:03With the impossible
00:27:05I would like to make it clear
00:27:06That
00:27:07Based on this
00:27:10One can say
00:27:10That's it
00:27:11Their reality
00:27:13But what cannot be done
00:27:14In a media outlet
00:27:15Or from a media outlet
00:27:16Give notice
00:27:18Offering that
00:27:19That's reality
00:27:20And much less so.
00:27:23Taking into account
00:27:23That's what's important.
00:27:24In the headline
00:27:25That wasn't what was happening
00:27:27But
00:27:27The man from Malaga
00:27:28That it was going around the world
00:27:29I needed help
00:27:31And that's very sad.
00:27:33Today
00:27:34Five years later
00:27:36From the day Isidore
00:27:37It departed from the Malaga coast
00:27:39Many questions remain
00:27:41Thank you for your response.
00:27:41His island sailboat
00:27:44He managed to complete a circumnavigation of the world
00:27:45His son Mario Arias
00:27:47He traveled to the Ivory Coast
00:27:49To recover the vessel
00:27:51And with her
00:27:51He completed the journey
00:27:53That his father
00:27:54She left it unfinished
00:27:55A while ago
00:28:01I want to thank
00:28:02Very especially
00:28:02The collaboration
00:28:03That has given us
00:28:04The son of Isidoro Arias
00:28:05I imagine also
00:28:06Which has been especially painful
00:28:08Remember this whole story
00:28:09And also
00:28:10Because he had not declared
00:28:11For no other media outlet
00:28:12Thank you.
00:28:13In advance
00:28:14By the way
00:28:15That Isidore
00:28:16I had left a message
00:28:17Agonizing
00:28:18Someone
00:28:19A being
00:28:20That described
00:28:20In a deformed shape
00:28:21Strange
00:28:22It's going up
00:28:22Through the hull of the ship
00:28:24And then
00:28:24Nothingness
00:28:25As we said before
00:28:26The interrupted journey
00:28:27No trace
00:28:29Hallucination
00:28:29Mirage
00:28:30Vision
00:28:31How many things
00:28:32They can fit in the mind
00:28:33From a man?
00:28:34Or are we wrong?
00:28:35If they actually happen
00:28:36This type of event
00:28:37And they're not at all
00:28:38Questions about our own brain?
00:28:41We have tried to find out
00:28:42Because many people
00:28:42He has spoken about malaria.
00:28:43As a disease
00:28:44That can cause
00:28:45Strange visions
00:28:46That they are real
00:28:47For those who suffer from it
00:28:48Regarding those kinds of issues
00:28:50And about other tropical diseases
00:28:51We've talked
00:28:52With an expert
00:28:53Doctor
00:28:54In the subject
00:28:54Cerebral malaria
00:28:56It has a clinical manifestation
00:28:58Highly variable
00:28:59But in principle
00:29:01One of the symptoms
00:29:03That it may have
00:29:04Apart from a dizzy spell
00:29:05Headache
00:29:07Delusions
00:29:08And convulsions
00:29:10And then finally
00:29:10That's getting worse
00:29:12If it is not treated
00:29:12Correctly
00:29:13And it leads to a coma
00:29:15Irreversible
00:29:16And the patient dies
00:29:18Isidoro Aria's ship
00:29:20He found himself adrift
00:29:21Without a captain
00:29:22Aimless
00:29:23Almost like a ghost ship
00:29:25And it should be noted here
00:29:26What about ghost ships?
00:29:28There is the history of the seas
00:29:29Completely full
00:29:30Some cases
00:29:31Brought to you by Carmen Porter
00:29:32Good night
00:29:33Good evening Iker
00:29:33We'll start with the most famous one
00:29:35Of all time
00:29:36The unsinkable Titanic
00:29:37Indeed
00:29:38We begin with the tragedy
00:29:40From the Titanic
00:29:40You know that it happened
00:29:42In 1912
00:29:43Exactly on April 14th
00:29:45There are 1513 people
00:29:47Those who lose their lives
00:29:48In that terrible tragedy
00:29:50But there's a curious thing.
00:29:51A serial
00:29:52As the experts say
00:29:53An impossible coincidence
00:29:55And it's a novel
00:29:56Which was published 14 years earlier
00:29:58In 1898
00:29:59Indeed
00:30:00It's called Futility
00:30:01It is written by
00:30:02Morgan Robertson
00:30:03He was British
00:30:05It hadn't been very successful
00:30:06With his writings
00:30:07But look
00:30:08What a coincidence!
00:30:09It's spot on
00:30:1014 years earlier
00:30:11That it occurs
00:30:12That Titanic tragedy
00:30:13In many things
00:30:14For example
00:30:15In his novel
00:30:16The main ship
00:30:17The main ship
00:30:19It's called Titan
00:30:20And it also puts
00:30:21That it was unsinkable
00:30:21Also
00:30:22And with great luxury.
00:30:23It has the capacity
00:30:24For 3,000 passengers
00:30:25As I also had
00:30:26The real Titanic
00:30:27It had two masts
00:30:29Just like the Titanic
00:30:30And also
00:30:31Three propellers
00:30:33As I had
00:30:33That mythical ship
00:30:35And on top of that, it turns out
00:30:36From the same shipyards
00:30:37Where did the Titanic come from?
00:30:38In reality
00:30:39Always in mind
00:30:40Of this one
00:30:41Morgan Robertson
00:30:41The two could reach
00:30:43A maximum speed
00:30:44That was 25 knots
00:30:45And here it comes
00:30:47The strong
00:30:48And the most interesting thing
00:30:48Regarding the topic
00:30:50Roberson says
00:30:51Roberson says in his novel
00:30:52That ship
00:30:53The Titan
00:30:53It crashes into
00:30:55Uniceber
00:30:55In April
00:30:56The Titanic
00:30:57It crashes into
00:30:59Uniceber
00:30:59April 14th
00:31:01Indeed
00:31:02As he recounted
00:31:03The novel
00:31:04Premonition
00:31:05Prediction
00:31:05By this author
00:31:06Which was somewhat
00:31:07Strange
00:31:08And
00:31:08Because
00:31:09He
00:31:09I was writing
00:31:11With a method
00:31:12What was writing?
00:31:13Automatic
00:31:14He said he had
00:31:15A species
00:31:15Guide
00:31:16In another astral
00:31:17What was he saying?
00:31:18How I had
00:31:19That writing
00:31:20How I had
00:31:21That will link together
00:31:22The scenes
00:31:23That were caused
00:31:24In his books
00:31:25Futilti
00:31:25Morgan Robertson
00:31:26And in the books
00:31:27There is no trick
00:31:27Not even cardboard
00:31:28There is a legal deposit
00:31:29What does it say?
00:31:30When it has been printed
00:31:31Now
00:31:3114 years earlier
00:31:32That the Titanic
00:31:33Really
00:31:34It really crashed
00:31:35Almost the same number of deaths
00:31:36With the same number of boats
00:31:37And with details
00:31:39Amazing
00:31:40But
00:31:40Is there a Titanic?
00:31:41For example
00:31:42Spanish style
00:31:43We have an episode
00:31:45Of that type
00:31:46Also with mystery
00:31:46We have it
00:31:47It was a ship
00:31:48Very dear
00:31:49For the people of the Canary Islands
00:31:50It was called Balvanera
00:31:52He explains it to us
00:31:53Part of that story
00:31:54Our colleague
00:31:55José Gregorio González
00:31:56Well
00:31:57Following the pattern
00:31:58Of many
00:31:58Collective tragedies
00:32:00Of disappearances
00:32:01Or of deaths
00:32:02Of great
00:32:03Human masses
00:32:04The Balvanera case
00:32:05It also brings together
00:32:06A series of
00:32:07Characteristics
00:32:07Of cases
00:32:08Very unique
00:32:09Of premonitions
00:32:09Or of omens
00:32:11Of bad omens
00:32:12That surround this case
00:32:13For example
00:32:13From the very moment
00:32:15In which the helmet is painted
00:32:16With the name Balvanera
00:32:17A mistake is made
00:32:18Replacing
00:32:19The second V
00:32:20For a B
00:32:20Something that
00:32:21It is interpreted
00:32:22Like a bad omen
00:32:23Then
00:32:24Also already
00:32:25When
00:32:26The journey takes place
00:32:28To America
00:32:29From his last trip
00:32:30Well, it happens
00:32:31A circumstance
00:32:32Very peculiar
00:32:33At the port
00:32:33From Santa Cruz
00:32:34From La Palma
00:32:34Before setting sail
00:32:35Lose an anchor
00:32:36Something that also
00:32:37At that moment
00:32:38It makes people
00:32:39It is proposed
00:32:39That that
00:32:40I wasn't going to have
00:32:40A good ending
00:32:41Previously
00:32:42Even a few months earlier
00:32:43On his previous trip
00:32:45There was suffering
00:32:47A major epidemic
00:32:48Where they died
00:32:48Dozens of Canary Islanders
00:32:50And it wasn't either.
00:32:51Let's say
00:32:51A precedent
00:32:52An omen too much
00:32:54Positive
00:32:54For what could happen
00:32:56And finally
00:32:56And finally
00:32:57Already on the trip itself
00:32:58Things happened
00:33:00That stand out
00:33:01That component
00:33:03Mysterious
00:33:03In this case
00:33:04For example
00:33:05The captain
00:33:05From the vessel
00:33:07He wrote a letter
00:33:08To his wife
00:33:09From Santa Cruz
00:33:10From La Palma
00:33:11Predicting
00:33:12That possibly
00:33:13I wouldn't go back.
00:33:13Alive
00:33:14From that trip
00:33:14We found
00:33:15Also
00:33:16Other
00:33:17Another element
00:33:18For reflection
00:33:19In the numerous
00:33:20Passage
00:33:20Who disembarked
00:33:21At the port
00:33:22From Santiago
00:33:23From Cuba
00:33:23Passage
00:33:24That he had a ticket
00:33:25Complete journey to Havana
00:33:26As if somehow
00:33:27They were sensing something.
00:33:28What could happen
00:33:29And among the cases
00:33:30More eye-catching
00:33:31It is found
00:33:31A girl's
00:33:32From Las Palmas
00:33:32From Gran Canaria
00:33:33That repeatedly
00:33:35It was revealed
00:33:37His refusal
00:33:38To board
00:33:38In Balvanera
00:33:39Even on the days
00:33:41Previous
00:33:41He went so far as to say
00:33:43Publicly
00:33:43As reported
00:33:44The newspapers
00:33:45From that time
00:33:45That ship
00:33:46It was going to sink
00:33:47And that they weren't going to succeed
00:33:48Get there
00:33:49To America
00:33:50To your destination
00:33:50These are examples
00:33:52Of the many stories
00:33:53Premonitory
00:33:54That surrounded
00:33:54To the sinking
00:33:56From Balvanera
00:33:56A severed head
00:33:58That was the only thing
00:33:59That appeared
00:33:59So many people
00:34:01Of so many lives
00:34:01From so many broken dreams
00:34:02In Balvanera
00:34:03But there is another ship
00:34:05That almost exceeds
00:34:05In a ghostly state
00:34:07Those we have cited
00:34:08Previously
00:34:09Your name
00:34:09And to a true legend
00:34:10Mari Celeste
00:34:11When it came out
00:34:12The Mari Celeste
00:34:13From Puerto
00:34:14It had on board
00:34:15Seven crew members
00:34:16Seven sailors
00:34:17The captain
00:34:18The captain's wife
00:34:19And a little girl
00:34:20That they had
00:34:21Two years old
00:34:22When the one from Igratia
00:34:23It is found
00:34:25With the Mari Celeste
00:34:26He sees that there is no one there.
00:34:28Aboard
00:34:28They decide to disembark
00:34:29A boat
00:34:30With several sailors
00:34:31To investigate
00:34:32If they find each other
00:34:33In the cabins
00:34:33If they are sick
00:34:34And there they discover
00:34:35That there is nothing
00:34:36But they find it strange
00:34:37One simple thing
00:34:38There are no reasons.
00:34:41That it has occurred
00:34:43No storm
00:34:44Nor that it crashed
00:34:45Against nothing
00:34:46The food is perfect
00:34:48Table setting
00:34:49As in the case
00:34:49From Ciudad Arias
00:34:50Indeed
00:34:51The utensils
00:34:51Navigation
00:34:52Iker
00:34:52They haven't moved.
00:34:53Whereby
00:34:54It is ruled out.
00:34:54That possible storm
00:34:56That he would have given
00:34:57With the crew
00:34:58Into the water
00:34:58That they had drowned
00:34:59In that case
00:35:00They don't know
00:35:01And an investigation is carried out.
00:35:02It is worn
00:35:03The sailboat
00:35:04To Gibraltar
00:35:05And there in Gibraltar
00:35:06An investigation is being conducted
00:35:07They say that everything
00:35:08It's very strange.
00:35:09That they don't have
00:35:10No indication
00:35:11That in that crew
00:35:13It has occurred
00:35:13For example
00:35:14A murder
00:35:15Which is one of the hypotheses
00:35:16That in the beginning
00:35:17They are given
00:35:17And do you know what it is?
00:35:19The latest hypothesis
00:35:20That the specialists
00:35:22That they investigate
00:35:22The sea and sky
00:35:24Dan?
00:35:25You tell me
00:35:27Uncontrolled panic
00:35:28Something
00:35:29It makes all those people
00:35:31Enter into such a state
00:35:32Panic
00:35:33Let him do
00:35:33Let them take
00:35:34A boat
00:35:35And also
00:35:35The boat is never found
00:35:36Just like in the case
00:35:37By Isidoro Arias
00:35:38And everyone
00:35:39Lost track of her
00:35:40And of course
00:35:41They believe it's an escape.
00:35:42All of this made the news
00:35:43Back then
00:35:44We're going now
00:35:45With the news
00:35:45That have occurred
00:35:46In the last seven
00:35:47This week
00:35:48Also prone
00:35:49Many matters of mystery
00:35:51And also
00:35:51With significant accuracy
00:35:53The animals
00:35:54Definitely
00:35:54Main Characters
00:36:16The birth of a strange animal
00:36:18That deviates from the norm
00:36:20It keeps provoking
00:36:21A special fascination
00:36:22In the past it could be
00:36:23Omen of
00:36:25Well
00:36:25A bad omen
00:36:26Or also of fortune
00:36:28From Buenaventura
00:36:30For the owners
00:36:31For example
00:36:32From a small lamb
00:36:33There's the news
00:36:34In Jerez de la Frontera
00:36:35Carmen
00:36:35It has happened
00:36:37In the town
00:36:38From the Florida Boat
00:36:39In Cadiz
00:36:40There a married couple
00:36:41It has been found
00:36:41In one of the births
00:36:43From one of his lambs
00:36:44With a strange little lamb
00:36:46That he had four eyes
00:36:48And two mouths
00:36:49The owners of the animal
00:36:50Dolores
00:36:51And her husband
00:36:51Antonio Vigan Aranjo
00:36:53They say they were very scared
00:36:54When they saw him do it
00:36:55And that although the animal
00:36:56He is very weak
00:36:57Veterinarians
00:36:58They told him
00:36:59Because he only has one brain
00:37:00It is possible
00:37:01May he/she survive
00:37:02According to Dolores
00:37:03The animal
00:37:03It has a head
00:37:04Very ugly
00:37:04And very big
00:37:05With four eyes
00:37:06And two mouths
00:37:06One of them
00:37:07With a conduit
00:37:08So we can eat
00:37:09From what we have been able to see
00:37:10So far, feed
00:37:11Without any problems
00:37:13The shepherds
00:37:14They have declared
00:37:14That they don't think
00:37:15Leave it in the field
00:37:16Instead, they're going to raise her.
00:37:17At home
00:37:17Because they feel very sorry for them
00:37:19The little animal
00:37:20I already warned you
00:37:21That the animals
00:37:21They were going to be the main characters.
00:37:22Undisputed
00:37:23But now we're talking
00:37:23In another sense
00:37:25Because Sekhmet
00:37:26The Lion Queen
00:37:27She was also queen
00:37:28From the shadows
00:37:29Carmen
00:37:29A team of archaeologists
00:37:31Germans
00:37:32He has discovered
00:37:32Seventeen statues
00:37:34Of the goddess Sekhmet
00:37:35In the temple
00:37:36From Amenhotep III
00:37:37In Luxor
00:37:38The figures
00:37:39That measure
00:37:39One meter and seventy centimeters
00:37:41They represent
00:37:41To the goddess Sekhmet
00:37:42Deity
00:37:43With a woman's body
00:37:44And lioness's head
00:37:45Some of them
00:37:46They represent the goddess
00:37:47In a seated position
00:37:48On his throne
00:37:49Decorated with inscriptions
00:37:51That refer to
00:37:52To unification
00:37:52Between the north
00:37:53And southern Egypt
00:37:54During the eighteenth dynasty
00:37:56According to mythology
00:37:57Sekhmet
00:37:58She is a warrior deity
00:37:59Sent by the god Ra
00:38:00To punish men
00:38:01For ceasing to worship him
00:38:03The goddess also
00:38:04It was a symbol
00:38:04From the arrival
00:38:05Of epidemics
00:38:06And diseases
00:38:06Although at the same time
00:38:08It also helped
00:38:09To heal them
00:38:10In many temples
00:38:11She put on Sekhmet
00:38:11As absolute protector
00:38:13From the environment
00:38:14Now unfortunately
00:38:15In this 21st century
00:38:16We need to protect ourselves
00:38:17Otherwise
00:38:17Carmen
00:38:18And that is why
00:38:19It has been celebrated
00:38:19In Tokyo
00:38:20An exhibition
00:38:21With the latest
00:38:23Technologies
00:38:23Anti-crime
00:38:24At the fair
00:38:25Security Show 2006
00:38:27The visitors
00:38:27They have been able to observe
00:38:28Tools and machines
00:38:29That can be used
00:38:31Against aggressors
00:38:31Thieves
00:38:32Kidnappers
00:38:33And even
00:38:34Poyers
00:38:34Among the instruments
00:38:36Peculiar
00:38:36That have been seen
00:38:37There was a portable launcher
00:38:39That fired a net
00:38:399 meters
00:38:40To catch a suspect
00:38:41At a distance
00:38:42Up to 3.5 meters
00:38:44Or a device
00:38:45That fills the whole house
00:38:46With smoke
00:38:46To stun the thieves
00:38:47And also a system
00:38:48That I can locate
00:38:50To the children
00:38:50At the exact spot
00:38:51From its route
00:38:52To school
00:38:53And his parents
00:38:54They can observe them
00:38:55Through the screens
00:38:56From a computer
00:38:57Now we're talking about children
00:38:58If you agree
00:38:58In the year of our Lord
00:39:00The chronicle read as follows:
00:39:01From 1666
00:39:03Curious year
00:39:04A giant child was born
00:39:05In Jaén
00:39:06To whom, by the way
00:39:07They immediately labeled him
00:39:08Like the Antichrist
00:39:09The poor boy
00:39:10He was not to blame.
00:39:11And he died a few days later
00:39:13But the truth is, the truth is
00:39:14It's because of the giant children
00:39:16These are not just stories from yesterday.
00:39:17These images will remind you of them
00:39:19Images of the birth
00:39:20From a little girl
00:39:21Truly disproportionate
00:39:23In its colossal size
00:39:26We kept her
00:39:28Because we're going to talk
00:39:29From fascination
00:39:30From the concern
00:39:31And even from fear
00:39:32What did these beings cause?
00:39:33They are not legends
00:39:34They are the giants
00:39:35We're going to go looking for
00:39:36Of the Spanish giants
00:40:21It must be a night of terror
00:40:23For the great Androis Paré
00:40:24Father of modern surgery
00:40:26And that in that 16th century
00:40:28He was left tormented
00:40:30From what I saw in their eyes
00:40:31It happened in a shanty
00:40:33Practically on the outskirts of Turin
00:40:34Always according to its date
00:40:36The medical diagnosis
00:40:37Between the placenta
00:40:38A baby appeared
00:40:39That he was half human
00:40:40And it almost looked half calf
00:40:42His devilish-looking face
00:40:44From that meeting
00:40:46With the extraordinary
00:40:47What he got out of it
00:40:48From the common norm
00:40:49Androis Paré
00:40:50He dedicated his entire life
00:40:51To catalog monsters and prodigies
00:40:53For example
00:40:54What caught his attention the most
00:40:56They were the giants
00:40:57There have been cases
00:40:59Over the last few centuries
00:41:00Most of the time
00:41:02These individuals
00:41:02Ordinary people
00:41:04With certain deformities
00:41:05They become almost less
00:41:07That in circus creatures
00:41:08I am convinced
00:41:09What do they remember?
00:41:10This man
00:41:11This man's skeleton
00:41:12Jason Merrick
00:41:13The Elephant Man
00:41:14This is the latest example
00:41:16As often happens
00:41:17Society
00:41:17He ends up turning them
00:41:19In fairground items
00:41:20He said that the giants
00:41:21They attracted a lot of attention
00:41:22From the French doctor
00:41:23And they did.
00:41:24Because according to him
00:41:25There were two causes
00:41:26Or reasons
00:41:27So that they would emerge
00:41:28Colossal men
00:41:29It was a
00:41:31The wrath of God
00:41:32And another
00:41:32Inspiration
00:41:33Of the evil one
00:41:34That was the thinking
00:41:35Then
00:41:36Today, fortunately
00:41:37The giants
00:41:37They live among us
00:41:38But some
00:41:39For his
00:41:41Amazing appearance
00:41:42I believe it continues to motivate.
00:41:43A certain fascination
00:41:44In the men of the 21st century
00:41:46I want to lead them
00:41:47Even a small town
00:41:48From Guipúzcoa
00:41:49A place that is known
00:41:50Because that's where he was born
00:41:52A person
00:41:52Which became
00:41:53In giant
00:41:54The giant of Alzo
00:41:56A surprising story
00:41:57What's happening around here?
00:41:58And I'm sure
00:41:59They will not be able to forget
00:42:10Miguel Joaquín
00:42:11Elicegui Arteaga
00:42:12He was born on July 10th
00:42:14From 1818
00:42:15In the hamlet
00:42:16From Ipinza
00:42:17In Alzo de Abajo
00:42:18Guipúzcoa
00:42:19It was the fourth
00:42:20One of nine siblings
00:42:21And his youth
00:42:22It developed
00:42:22Like any other
00:42:23Boy his age
00:42:24Until he turned
00:42:25The 20 years
00:42:27Miguel Joaquín
00:42:28Sick
00:42:29From an unknown evil
00:42:29That made him grow
00:42:30And grow excessively
00:42:32Reaching
00:42:33The 2 meters
00:42:34And 42 centimeters
00:42:35His village neighbors
00:42:37They eventually got used to it
00:42:38At his level
00:42:39However
00:42:40People
00:42:41That they saw him
00:42:41For the first time
00:42:42They were astonished
00:42:43As if petrified
00:42:45When they were looking
00:42:45His enormous figure
00:42:46Some crossed themselves
00:42:48And others fled
00:42:49As if they had seen
00:42:50A monster
00:42:51Word of mouth
00:42:52He did the rest
00:42:53People renamed him
00:42:55Like the giant of Alzo
00:42:58His fame surpassed
00:42:59Our borders
00:43:00And his family
00:43:01He didn't waste the opportunity
00:43:02The opportunity
00:43:03To become rich
00:43:04At his expense
00:43:04Nations
00:43:05In the room
00:43:06The one I told you about
00:43:06Where I was born
00:43:08Yes, in this house
00:43:10He had a minor illness
00:43:11And he was sick
00:43:13And from there
00:43:14From there
00:43:14It began to grow
00:43:15And grow
00:43:16And grow
00:43:17And he arrived at the
00:43:19At the height
00:43:20That arrived
00:43:20And then a case came along
00:43:21Well, there was
00:43:22Here
00:43:23They were making a reservation
00:43:24Wheat and such
00:43:25And he ate
00:43:27Well, a casserole dish
00:43:28Of six or seven
00:43:29Farmers
00:43:30That they were here
00:43:30And he ate
00:43:31The only
00:43:32Those anecdotes
00:43:33That always happened
00:43:35Hunger
00:43:35I was always hungry
00:43:37In 1843
00:43:38They formed a society
00:43:40With a promoter
00:43:40From that time
00:43:41Called
00:43:41José Antonio Arzadun
00:43:43Receiving 13 ounces
00:43:45Gold per year
00:43:45In the contract
00:43:47That they signed
00:43:47They included a series
00:43:49Of surprising clauses
00:43:50For example
00:43:52Society
00:43:53It should supply
00:43:54To the giant
00:43:54All tobacco
00:43:55That he needed
00:43:56Besides clothes
00:43:57And maintenance
00:43:58But the most striking
00:43:59It is that this society
00:44:01I should allow him
00:44:02To the young man
00:44:02The assistance
00:44:03To Mass
00:44:04In the days
00:44:04By precept
00:44:07Signed
00:44:07The abusive contract
00:44:08They embarked
00:44:09On tour
00:44:10Circus
00:44:10Showing off the giant
00:44:12In towns
00:44:12From different provinces
00:44:13Spanish
00:44:14And also
00:44:14In a crowd
00:44:15From European cities
00:44:16From the humblest
00:44:18Villagers
00:44:19Even kings and queens
00:44:20Like Elizabeth II
00:44:21From Spain
00:44:22Luis Felipe
00:44:23From France
00:44:23O Victoria
00:44:24From England
00:44:25They witnessed
00:44:25With amazement
00:44:26Admiration
00:44:27And even fear
00:44:28Those 242 centimeters
00:44:30Of being human
00:44:31That they were shown
00:44:32As if it were an attraction
00:44:33It was like a fair
00:44:36Such was the admiration
00:44:37What they felt for him
00:44:38In his village
00:44:39That each time
00:44:39That he was returning
00:44:40From someone
00:44:41From his travels
00:44:41It was measured
00:44:42At the door
00:44:42From the church
00:44:43To check
00:44:44What had grown
00:44:45The chiseled marks
00:44:47Even today
00:44:48They can be seen
00:44:48They attest to the dimensions
00:44:50Which it reached
00:44:51The giant of Alzo
00:44:54The shameful tour
00:44:55To which he was subjected
00:44:56Miguel Joaquín
00:44:56It ended eventually
00:44:58From the years
00:44:58His father
00:44:59She ended it
00:45:00Upon learning
00:45:01That his son
00:45:02He had not been allowed
00:45:03Attend mass
00:45:04On two occasions
00:45:05During an exhibition
00:45:06In San Sebastián
00:45:07And that's paradoxical
00:45:09That being who provoked
00:45:10Instinctive fear
00:45:11In all those
00:45:12That they saw him
00:45:12He was extremely religious.
00:45:14But above all
00:45:15Good-natured
00:45:16And so harmless
00:45:17Like a child
00:45:19What I most desired
00:45:20Miguel Joaquín
00:45:21It was returning to his homeland
00:45:22Well, I missed it
00:45:24Their daily chores
00:45:25The masses
00:45:26And the games
00:45:26Sunday card games
00:45:28He died at the age of 43
00:45:30Afflicted
00:45:30From pulmonary tuberculosis
00:45:32And with a state
00:45:33In a state of great economic hardship
00:45:35Many were those who
00:45:36Over the years
00:45:37They wanted to buy his remains
00:45:39To analyze them
00:45:39And to study a morphology
00:45:41So surprising
00:45:42But the family
00:45:43He flatly refused.
00:45:45However
00:45:46The rumor is circulating
00:45:47That his tomb
00:45:48It was desecrated
00:45:49A cold winter night
00:45:50And its skeleton
00:45:51Taken somewhere in Europe
00:45:54They disappeared
00:45:54The remains
00:45:55Of the skeleton
00:45:56The giant disappeared
00:45:57That it's in the London Museum
00:46:00If this is not
00:46:01That's already been done.
00:46:02No
00:46:03Whether it's true or not
00:46:05It's in his hamlet
00:46:06Clip
00:46:07Where his spirit
00:46:08He's still alive
00:46:08And that's precisely it.
00:46:09The place where it begins
00:46:11The legend
00:46:11From a man
00:46:12That with the passing of the years
00:46:13It became almost
00:46:15That in a mythological character
00:46:17He was born Miguel Joaquín
00:46:19But he died converted
00:46:21In the mythical
00:46:23Giant of Alzo
00:46:28Until well into
00:46:29The 20th Century
00:46:30There were some figures
00:46:31Macabre
00:46:32But real
00:46:32They were called
00:46:33Body snatchers
00:46:34They went to the cemeteries
00:46:36With the intention
00:46:36To take away the corpses
00:46:38And often
00:46:39The doctors themselves
00:46:39Medicine advanced in this way
00:46:40They were the buyers
00:46:42Imagine the special interest
00:46:44Which aroused, for example
00:46:45An anatomy
00:46:46Like that of the giant of Alzo
00:46:47Or so many others
00:46:48Luis Álvarez
00:46:49In this report
00:46:50He has come to find
00:46:50To family members
00:46:52Very far away
00:46:53Yes indeed
00:46:53But family members really
00:46:54From the root trunk
00:46:55Of the Elícegui family
00:46:56The surname
00:46:57About this man
00:46:58That many say
00:46:59He died tormented
00:47:00Sad
00:47:00Some speak
00:47:01He died of hunger
00:47:02Others who tried
00:47:03Marry him to a giantess
00:47:05Many theories
00:47:06For this man
00:47:06It's already part of the legend
00:47:08But perhaps what is most interesting
00:47:09It's not the only case
00:47:10Our colleague
00:47:11Gerardo Peláez
00:47:12He has investigated
00:47:12Other cases
00:47:13Of Spanish giants
00:47:14They are amazing
00:47:15Gerardo
00:47:16Good night
00:47:16Hello, good evening
00:47:17For example
00:47:18The giant from Extremadura
00:47:19I don't know if I surpassed him
00:47:20In size or not
00:47:21But yes, in anticipation
00:47:22Yes that's how it is
00:47:23It was not bigger than him
00:47:24Because it was slightly shorter
00:47:25But yes, in anticipation
00:47:26And above all
00:47:26For a Dantean contract
00:47:29That he signed throughout his life
00:47:30And that we will tell you about later.
00:47:31But this man
00:47:32His name was Agustín Luengo Capilla
00:47:33Agustín Luengo
00:47:34He was born in Puebla de Badajoz
00:47:36In 1849
00:47:38And its story
00:47:39Just like the giant of Alzo
00:47:40She's very curious
00:47:41Given its great height
00:47:43Soon
00:47:44Their relatives
00:47:45Even the same
00:47:45He saw his destiny clearly.
00:47:47I was at the circus
00:47:48So
00:47:48As a result
00:47:49It began to become known
00:47:51And that's when he enters her life.
00:47:52A character
00:47:54I think I know
00:47:55For all the people
00:47:56He likes what's hidden.
00:47:57And the mysterious
00:47:58Dr. Velasco
00:47:59Dr. Velasco
00:48:00Why are you talking?
00:48:01About a special character
00:48:02In this plot?
00:48:02Was he almost a body snatcher?
00:48:04Well, almost
00:48:05Similar
00:48:06Because he was a character
00:48:07Here he is
00:48:08He's a character
00:48:09He was very famous
00:48:10At that time
00:48:10In Madrid
00:48:11Because he was the founder
00:48:12From the ethnological museum
00:48:13It is even said
00:48:15A story
00:48:15What happened to your daughter?
00:48:1715 years old
00:48:17When he died
00:48:18He even went so far as to embalm her
00:48:20To try to keep her alive
00:48:22And that she took it out
00:48:23Even dressed as a bride
00:48:24Out on the street
00:48:25Something that
00:48:25Of course
00:48:26The people who lived
00:48:27In Madrid
00:48:27From that time
00:48:28I couldn't believe it.
00:48:29Especially because
00:48:30A person
00:48:30At that level
00:48:31And in theory so cultured
00:48:33Well, I missed it
00:48:34That it could arrive
00:48:35To do things like that
00:48:36And what is Gerardo's relationship to this?
00:48:37And you might be wondering
00:48:38To the people
00:48:38This mysterious doctor
00:48:40Who founded one of the most
00:48:41Important museums
00:48:42With the giant from Extremadura
00:48:44In Geluengo Chapel
00:48:45Well, Dr. Velasco
00:48:46When he learned of the existence
00:48:47From the Extremaduran giant
00:48:49Quickly
00:48:49Upon seeing the surprising
00:48:51Morphology that it had
00:48:52He made her a deal
00:48:54He made her sign a contract
00:48:55Which I believe he couldn't refuse
00:48:56He offered her 3,000 pesetas
00:48:58For taking possession of his bones
00:49:01Once the giant
00:49:01I would have died
00:49:02Something certainly
00:49:03That nowadays
00:49:04It's unthinkable
00:49:05And that caught the attention
00:49:06From all of society
00:49:07From that time
00:49:08Even the giant himself
00:49:10When once dead
00:49:11The family continued
00:49:12Collecting that money
00:49:13Because of course
00:49:14At that time
00:49:153,000 pesetas
00:49:15It was a quantity
00:49:16Exorbitant amount of money
00:49:17And that practically
00:49:19Indeed
00:49:19He lifted them out of poverty
00:49:20Agustín Luengo's family
00:49:21And I'm going to tell you something, Gerardo
00:49:22And you know it well.
00:49:23And this team knows it too.
00:49:24That is still in that museum
00:49:26It needs to be said.
00:49:27There's a certain mystery.
00:49:28A certain blush
00:49:28Or a certain modesty
00:49:29Let it be recorded
00:49:30One thing that is public
00:49:31And that it is there
00:49:32The skeleton
00:49:33From Augustine
00:49:34Luengo Chapel
00:49:36That's still there
00:49:37It's there
00:49:37Follow the skeleton
00:49:38It is exposed
00:49:39In the main hall
00:49:40From the museum
00:49:41Here we have
00:49:42Agustín's skeleton
00:49:43It's impressive.
00:49:43It's impressive.
00:49:45And the curious thing about all of it
00:49:46It's because when it fell
00:49:47In the hands of Dr. Velasco
00:49:48He gave her treatment
00:49:50A pickle
00:49:51What did he do to her?
00:49:52To grow 10 centimeters
00:49:53Therefore
00:49:54This is not the actual size.
00:49:55That the giant came to have
00:49:57To this we must add
00:49:5810 centimeters more
00:49:59That he had when he died
00:50:00The story is certainly
00:50:01Dantesque
00:50:02Dr. Velasco
00:50:03Besides
00:50:03Which logically
00:50:04He wanted to get his hands on the bones
00:50:05He tried to take advantage
00:50:07From the situation
00:50:08To make known
00:50:09The ethnological museum
00:50:11That back then
00:50:12That was when he had founded it
00:50:13Logically, I needed
00:50:14Fame and recognition
00:50:15To be visited
00:50:16It was like the star object
00:50:17As we saw earlier
00:50:17To Jason Merrick
00:50:18The Elephant Man
00:50:20Well placed on a pedestal
00:50:21Right there in the London hospital
00:50:23But the most curious thing
00:50:24From this story
00:50:24It's just that all these giants
00:50:25It appears they died
00:50:26Sad
00:50:27Insecure
00:50:27Clear
00:50:28Today's measures
00:50:29Of human beings
00:50:30They have varied
00:50:31100, 150 years ago
00:50:33The usual average
00:50:34I think Gerardo was located
00:50:35At 1.40
00:50:361.50
00:50:36The contrast with these figures
00:50:38He made them demigods
00:50:39Is it true that the giant of Alzo
00:50:41Then his body
00:50:41Has it not been located?
00:50:42Could someone have stolen it?
00:50:44That's the most curious thing
00:50:45From the giant of Alzo
00:50:46He didn't steal it anymore.
00:50:47Someone who is theoretically Spanish
00:50:48Some physicist
00:50:50Some doctor
00:50:50I would like to investigate it.
00:50:51Instead, it is spoken of
00:50:52From some English doctor
00:50:54That he ordered
00:50:56Steal the body
00:50:57And quickly
00:50:58Take it to the British Isles
00:51:00Where it appears to be
00:51:01That is exposed
00:51:02Somewhere
00:51:02And it even arrived
00:51:03He was even investigated
00:51:05To try to re-explain
00:51:06That very strange morphology
00:51:08What did the giant of Alzo have?
00:51:09One thing needs to be pointed out.
00:51:10Which was tremendously proportionate
00:51:12Because when he stretched out his arms
00:51:14It measured exactly the same
00:51:16From top to bottom
00:51:172.42
00:51:182.42 indeed
00:51:19That's very strange
00:51:20In patients with gigantism
00:51:22Extremely rare
00:51:23We were telling the audience earlier, Gerardo
00:51:25They wanted to marry her off
00:51:26With a giantess
00:51:27Something worthy of a novel
00:51:28But what was happening?
00:51:29I'm sure some of you remember
00:51:30That movie
00:51:32Horrible in some aspects
00:51:33Endearing in others
00:51:35Freaks
00:51:35Monsters or freaks
00:51:37That in the 1930s
00:51:38It caused a tremendous commotion
00:51:40Because these circuses
00:51:42These traveling fairs
00:51:43They showed things that
00:51:44They were hidden
00:51:45But they generated a morbid curiosity
00:51:46Tremendous in people
00:51:47And until not too long ago
00:51:48In some of these places
00:51:50Above all
00:51:51From the British Isles
00:51:52Well, they still existed
00:51:53The sites
00:51:54Where the giants
00:51:55They interacted with each other
00:51:56There were entire families
00:51:58In the end they didn't manage to get married
00:51:59To the giant of Alzo
00:52:00But if we wanted to do one thing
00:52:02Which could be very interesting
00:52:03We're talking about measures
00:52:04In centimeters
00:52:05To what extent
00:52:06Human beings
00:52:07He has even gone so far as to challenge
00:52:08The thresholds
00:52:08From their own genetics
00:52:11People have overcome
00:52:12To these Spanish giants
00:52:13Nowadays
00:52:14How's the Guinness World Record doing?
00:52:14Let's call it that
00:52:15Of great giants in history
00:52:16They have surpassed them
00:52:17And then some
00:52:18Because the giant from Extremadura
00:52:19For example
00:52:20It stayed at 230
00:52:20The giant of Alzo
00:52:22We said that he had 242
00:52:23But the tallest man
00:52:24Who has ever lived
00:52:25On Earth
00:52:26Except according to the Bible
00:52:28Goliath
00:52:28Well, it's
00:52:29Robert Pershing Waldo
00:52:31An American man
00:52:33Who was born in Illinois
00:52:33In a town called Alton
00:52:35And it reached 273 centimeters
00:52:38Tall
00:52:40273
00:52:40273
00:52:41And his case is terrible.
00:52:42Because
00:52:43There it is
00:52:44Indeed
00:52:44That's the case
00:52:46My God
00:52:46Realize
00:52:47And quickly
00:52:48Just like what happened
00:52:49With the cases
00:52:50Of the Spanish giants
00:52:51Clear
00:52:51His life
00:52:52She had to be channeled
00:52:53Towards the show
00:52:54Towards the world of the circus
00:52:56Even from tours
00:52:57His life was more commercial.
00:52:58That of the giants
00:52:59De Alzo
00:53:00The Extremaduran
00:53:00In this case
00:53:01This person
00:53:02Robert Waldo
00:53:03I admired him tremendously
00:53:04To his mother
00:53:05But I had a fondness for him.
00:53:06Bestial towards her
00:53:07However
00:53:08His father
00:53:09They tried to take advantage
00:53:10The height of his son
00:53:11However
00:53:11For example
00:53:12As of today
00:53:12Who is the tallest man?
00:53:14On the face of the earth
00:53:15Today?
00:53:15Right now
00:53:16The highest
00:53:17According to Guinness
00:53:18He's Chinese
00:53:18What is it called
00:53:19shishun
00:53:19What does it measure?
00:53:202.38
00:53:22But that's according to the Guinness Book of Records.
00:53:24Because there is a case
00:53:25That it is not included
00:53:26In the Guinness Book of Records
00:53:27And that's because
00:53:27He suffers from gigantism.
00:53:29And it seems that Guinness
00:53:30Well, it doesn't collect
00:53:31To the people
00:53:32That they are not healthy
00:53:33It is about
00:53:34By Leonid Stanik
00:53:35He is Ukrainian
00:53:36Here he is
00:53:37Which reaches a measurement
00:53:382.55 centimeters
00:53:40My God
00:53:41That this man
00:53:42Yes, it is
00:53:42Completely tormented
00:53:44The last time it was measured
00:53:45It was years ago.
00:53:46And he doesn't want to do it again.
00:53:47Because it has no interest.
00:53:49To enter the Guinness Book of Records
00:53:49He feels ashamed
00:53:50Of his appearance
00:53:51She doesn't even want to look in a mirror.
00:53:52Of course
00:53:53It's a terrible story
00:53:54This young man's
00:53:55That changed his life
00:53:56Precisely in an operation
00:53:57When I was 14 years old
00:53:59They tried to remove it
00:54:00A tumor
00:54:00And what they did was
00:54:01Well, play it
00:54:03The gland
00:54:04That produces
00:54:04Growth hormone
00:54:06And they disrupted it
00:54:08In this way
00:54:08From there
00:54:09It began to grow
00:54:10To grow
00:54:10To grow
00:54:11The fuse was lit
00:54:12And it hasn't stopped since.
00:54:13But the curious thing is
00:54:14He regrets it.
00:54:15And she is ashamed
00:54:16From the height
00:54:16And of his image
00:54:17Gerardo
00:54:18Therefore
00:54:18We conclude
00:54:19So the stigma
00:54:19For these people
00:54:21It's still going on
00:54:21Somehow
00:54:22In the 21st century
00:54:23It's not the vision
00:54:24Of the surgeons
00:54:25From the 16th century
00:54:25But if there is something
00:54:26Fascinating
00:54:27Fearful
00:54:27Of distancing
00:54:28From everything that comes out
00:54:29From the standard
00:54:30Thank you for this research.
00:54:31And of course
00:54:32We invite people
00:54:32That he goes to the museum so much
00:54:34To see the giant from Extremadura
00:54:35Like that little village
00:54:37I raise
00:54:37Where they still remain
00:54:38The brands
00:54:39We've seen them
00:54:39In Luis's report
00:54:41Where this man measured
00:54:42Yes, indeed
00:54:42And above all
00:54:44To finish, Iker
00:54:45A common feature
00:54:46That all giants have
00:54:47They don't use their height
00:54:49To cause harm
00:54:50To command respect
00:54:51Quite the opposite
00:54:52His height
00:54:53It makes them
00:54:54Tremendous complexes
00:54:55What makes them
00:54:56Extremely shy
00:54:57Thank you Gerardo
00:54:58This investigation
00:54:59Thanks to you
00:55:00Amazing
00:55:00Dear friends
00:55:01Amazing
00:55:02Because it gives us the feeling
00:55:03That there are still some left
00:55:03Many things
00:55:04To be revealed
00:55:05In human genetics itself
00:55:07How far has it gone?
00:55:08Some human being
00:55:09For example
00:55:09In ancient times
00:55:10Is it Goliath?
00:55:11Or other great colossi
00:55:12And titans of antiquity
00:55:13Example of this disease
00:55:16Or this dysfunction
00:55:17Absolutely scientific?
00:55:19Someday maybe
00:55:20We'll find out
00:55:20I'm sure
00:55:21Meanwhile
00:55:22Names like Alzo
00:55:23Or the one from the Extremaduran giant
00:55:24They've already stayed
00:55:25As part of the mysteries
00:55:27To be revealed
00:55:27In our country
00:55:28We have seen photographs
00:55:29Shocking
00:55:30Photographs
00:55:30That really leave one
00:55:32Well
00:55:32Speechless
00:55:33Given the altitude
00:55:33Of these giants
00:55:35From the 20th century
00:55:35But perhaps
00:55:37Let's make it a good time
00:55:38To make way
00:55:39Other photographs
00:55:40We know that too
00:55:41They worry them
00:55:42These are the ones that send us
00:55:43The viewers
00:55:44From Fourth Millennium
00:56:04There are few places
00:56:05So famous
00:56:06In the capital of Spain
00:56:07May they have more stories
00:56:09Of ghosts
00:56:10Besides
00:56:10We're talking about
00:56:11Linares Palace
00:56:12Of the Marquises of Linares
00:56:14Stories of all kinds
00:56:15Voices create a fraud
00:56:16But some say
00:56:17That there was a real substrate
00:56:18That is very clear
00:56:19It's because of the tourists
00:56:20They don't resist
00:56:22To take a photograph
00:56:22To its windows
00:56:23Its mysterious windows
00:56:25Carmen
00:56:25Above all
00:56:26They don't resist
00:56:27If they are followers
00:56:28From Fourth Millennium
00:56:29And how do they comply?
00:56:31With homework
00:56:32They go to the places
00:56:32They say they have a mystery
00:56:34And they take photographs
00:56:35And what happened?
00:56:36It has happened
00:56:36In two photographs
00:56:37That reached us
00:56:38This week
00:56:39One of them sent it to us
00:56:40Javier Espuelas
00:56:41From Logroño
00:56:42He came to visit
00:56:43The city of Madrid
00:56:44And the other one she sent us
00:56:45Edwin Merlo
00:56:46From Valencia
00:56:48The two of them were here
00:56:49Well, after a few days
00:56:50And the two
00:56:51They captured it with their digital cameras.
00:56:53Something strange
00:56:55In the windows
00:56:55From that mythical
00:56:56Linares Palace
00:56:58We have analyzed
00:56:59Both photographs
00:57:00And Guillermo León
00:57:02He tells us that the first one
00:57:04It's the distance
00:57:05Therefore
00:57:06The area
00:57:06For example
00:57:07The distance
00:57:08From the moment the photograph is taken
00:57:09That's the first point
00:57:10That we need to consider
00:57:12It's very difficult
00:57:13Expand the zones
00:57:14From the large windows
00:57:15Because being
00:57:16So far away
00:57:17That ability is lost.
00:57:19Those pixels
00:57:20They add up to more
00:57:21And then
00:57:22The photograph
00:57:23Loses quality
00:57:23Whereby
00:57:24It's very difficult
00:57:25Identify
00:57:25The faces
00:57:26That appear
00:57:27But it is true
00:57:28That there are two species
00:57:30Of faces
00:57:30Two faces
00:57:31That seem to belong
00:57:32One to one man
00:57:33Much older
00:57:34And another to a man
00:57:35Younger
00:57:36We've done a reenactment
00:57:37In three dimensions
00:57:38And the plot can originate
00:57:40Those errors in interpretation
00:57:41What may seem to us
00:57:43A face
00:57:43It could very well be
00:57:44The reflection
00:57:45On the glass
00:57:46From the window
00:57:47From any building
00:57:48Opposite
00:57:48A curtain
00:57:50Merely collected
00:57:51Or even
00:57:52That really
00:57:52Someone had appeared
00:57:54In those windows
00:57:55Highlights
00:57:56And mirages
00:57:57That the cameras
00:57:58They manage to reflect
00:57:59Probably
00:58:00But it's an illusion
00:58:01Knowing that
00:58:02Inside
00:58:03From the Bible
00:58:03No more, no less
00:58:04Hidden codes are concealed
00:58:06It's normal and logical
00:58:08That in a computer program
00:58:10Let's put it this way
00:58:12Extend all the letters
00:58:13From the ancient Torah
00:58:14Or the first five books
00:58:16From the Bible
00:58:16Appear, for example
00:58:17The word Hitler
00:58:18And cross paths with
00:58:20Evil man
00:58:21It is true that there is
00:58:22In short
00:58:23A key
00:58:24That someone hid
00:58:24Thousands of years ago
00:58:26Don't miss it!
00:58:27Let's try
00:58:27Discover it
00:58:31That someone hid
00:58:32Actually
00:58:32aprogen
00:58:32That someone hid
00:58:35That someone hid
00:58:36EITHER
00:58:58That someone is hiding
00:59:26Thanks for watching the video.
00:59:28Many wise men and scholars have tried to determine over the last few centuries whether writing is the most powerful
00:59:35Of all humanity, the Bible contained some key, some code, some way of anticipating events.
00:59:42This, which may sound heretical and strange, for example, excited the mind of Isaac Newton himself.
00:59:48I had more notes when the latest ones were discovered on this matter, on this story of the Bible code, than
00:59:54about physics, for example.
00:59:55I was absolutely convinced that there was some kind of internal code that could turn that book or those books into
01:00:02a kind of prophetic machine.
01:00:04What I want to tell you is amazing. I'm honestly a little speechless.
01:00:07I think they are mathematical flukes.
01:00:10But let's see what you all think.
01:00:12There is a famous journalist in the United States, Michael Drosnin, published, for example, in the Wall Street Journal or in the
01:00:18Washington Post, who one day is summoned to meet with an Israeli mathematician named Leahu Rips.
01:00:23It's a day in 1994, and what this man wants to tell you or explain is that he has discovered a
01:00:30a kind of computer matrix that reveals certain things about the Bible.
01:00:35I imagine Drosnin was left as you might be, with your eyes wide open.
01:00:38How is that possible? What program is that?
01:00:40Apparently, so that we could all understand, that original program revealed what the complete terms are, the letters of
01:00:48the Bible, and displayed them in a long spiral like a giant alphabet soup.
01:00:54That program also allowed you to insert a code, a word, a search command, and the Bible would find it among them all.
01:01:02them, whether in one way or another.
01:01:04And sometimes, those words that the search engine asked the Bible to locate within it, intersected with
01:01:10others.
01:01:11Whether by chance or not, Leahu Rips posed a kind of challenge to this journalist, who was initially, we imagine, incredulous.
01:01:18He named it after the Israeli Prime Minister, Isaac Rabin.
01:01:22Throughout the entire Bible, and of course it made no sense for Isaac Rabin to appear, but from top to bottom that [character name] emerged
01:01:27name.
01:01:27In one of the parts of the first five books or Pentateuch.
01:01:36In 1994, the great surprise for the American journalist came when, in November of 1995, an envoy
01:01:43God shoots Isaac Rabin in the back, according to his own words.
01:01:48The journalist gets scared, asks for the program, and starts experimenting.
01:01:52The secret code of the Bible.
01:01:55A matter that is still controversial today, ten years after its discovery.
01:02:00That's right, Santiago Camacho.
01:02:01You, who know a lot about computers and conspiracy, know that this issue continues to cause some turmoil.
01:02:07But that's how it all began, with the Israeli prime minister and a message that said, "Assassin who will assassinate."
01:02:12Yes, in fact, that's how one of the most exciting journalistic stories of the last decade began, I think.
01:02:19Let's consider that not only did Michael Rosling discover this story, but also, with that message in hand, he was already convinced
01:02:26through other evidence that this Bible code thing worked,
01:02:32He desperately tries to prevent what he believes is already inevitable: the attack against Isaac Rabin.
01:02:37He contacts his press office, his advisors, sends him letters, and even uses mutual acquaintances.
01:02:45so that they can deliver the message to him, and as if it were...
01:02:47Do you want to save him?
01:02:48Indeed, he wants to save him because he is convinced that this is going to happen and he has no other proof at hand.
01:02:53that this Bible code,
01:02:54which, based on other evidence that we will see throughout the program, has already convinced him of
01:02:59that works.
01:03:00He can't do it; it's as if under a curse, as if fate were absolutely unstoppable, and as if that which
01:03:07It was written there in Hebrew characters, destined to be fulfilled irrevocably.
01:03:12Michael Drosnin, how could he remain silent about this story? What tests did he secretly conduct with the mathematician Liago Rips?
01:03:18We don't know. What is certain is that he went from being a prestigious journalist to almost being driven mad by this story.
01:03:24He published several books, one of them, a second version of the so-called New Secret Bible Code, reflected in his
01:03:30cover, year 2001, something surprising.
01:03:32In the Bible, in the Holy Scriptures, the words "towers" intersect or arise in the matrix of this program.
01:03:40twins and airplane.
01:03:43Of course, it doesn't make sense to talk about airplanes in biblical times, not at all, but always
01:03:49I repeat, and so that we all understand, because it is difficult at first, it comes out like a word search.
01:03:54The airplane can be upside down, at one end, at the other, diagonally, but always with the same proportion of
01:04:00word by word.
01:04:01Now, if there's room in all this for one more twist, a kind of turn, an even more difficult leap,
01:04:07That was given by a Spaniard, a computer engineer, who knows perfectly well what the internal codes of these are.
01:04:14machines,
01:04:15And he said, "Why don't we translate this into Spanish? Why don't we adapt this kind of search engine?"
01:04:20The Bible cross-references words and makes it more understandable?
01:04:23And from there came another very interesting study, which he called Code B; he is David Zurdo, and he is
01:04:29here tonight.
01:04:30David, good evening.
01:04:31Hey Iker, how are you?
01:04:32Incidentally, another fact: it is true that Arafat, in one of the very few interviews he granted to an American journalist, was
01:04:39with Michael Drosnin,
01:04:40And it's not to talk about politics or the somewhat strange situations among the various conflicts of the middle entity,
01:04:46but to ask, what does the Bible code say about me?
01:04:48In fact, the Bible code has attracted the attention of very important people, including agencies.
01:04:53such as the United States National Security Agency,
01:04:56and also even a Nobel Prize, I mean, to mention something recent, in economics, which he has publicly stated he believes
01:05:03in this code.
01:05:04What do you think?
01:05:04Yes, look, when you mentioned earlier the translation or the way to search in this translated to
01:05:10In Spanish, it must be said that the Torah, the Torah is used in Hebrew,
01:05:13which is the only language in which, if we accept that it was a revelation, it has remained, let's say, unaltered throughout
01:05:20these millennia.
01:05:21This program, to put it clearly, puts it letter by letter, so to speak, it doesn't change the meaning, but rather strings it together.
01:05:26all in lines...
01:05:27Spin it all together in a single row, let's put it that way, then break it into pieces that are always equidistant,
01:05:32and are rearranged in such a way that these word searches appear
01:05:35And those messages, well, they can appear, as you said, vertically, horizontally, diagonally, but always in a
01:05:41small environment and always related to each other.
01:05:43In fact, the B-code program simply allows a user in Spanish, Spanish or
01:05:50Spanish speakers, enter terms into this search program,
01:05:54which is the same system as Liyahu Rips, but use them in Spanish.
01:05:59The program transliterates these search words and attempts to locate them in the Torah.
01:06:04I believe that, from that perspective, this has to remain a simple mathematical game.
01:06:08But, since we're on the subject of mathematics, and given that ten years have passed and the controversy continues,
01:06:13Let's look at and experiment with the searches that are apparently surprising.
01:06:17For example, the second one that Michael Drosnin does has to do with another president's name, Kennedy.
01:06:23We were recently talking about Kennedy, we saw that horrifying image of his assassination, and many people wrote to us saying that
01:06:30I didn't remember the brutality of the JFK assassination,
01:06:34And then Kennedy appears. And on the same page, so we're clear, where Kennedy only appears once, from above
01:06:40Down below, it intersects with the word Dallas, if I remember correctly, the state in which he died.
01:06:47The curious thing, Santiago Camacho, and you know many CIA stories well, is that the intelligence services, with
01:06:51names and surnames, they are interested in this Bible code as is normal.
01:06:55Yes, in fact, even before it was publicly known. Michael Drosnin himself is aware of this, being
01:07:03correspondent in Israel,
01:07:05political correspondent, for matters completely unrelated to this type of subject matter, and, like many correspondents, has his contact in
01:07:13the secret services, specifically the Mossad.
01:07:15He is the one who tells him about a professor at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, who has developed a theory
01:07:21which they have used as a basis for making certain predictions.
01:07:25Specifically, he had predicted the exact date of the outbreak of hostilities during the Gulf War.
01:07:31Of course, Michael Drosnin initially takes it with a bit of...
01:07:34He doesn't believe it.
01:07:34He doesn't believe it, and is quite skeptical.
01:07:37What he includes in his book is the comment of this secret agent, who tells him, "You'll see what..."
01:07:42You do it, but it works for us.
01:07:44It's curious because the US National Security Agency itself, the NSA, also unofficially showed some interest through
01:07:52one of its most renowned cryptographers, Harold Gans.
01:07:56Harold Gans, in principle, was one of the greatest detectors, one of the greatest skeptics of the Bible code.
01:08:02He was an internationally renowned cryptographer and dedicated himself to experimenting with the program developed by Doron Wizzum.
01:08:11who was the computer scientist who helped Dr. Reeves put this into computer terms.
01:08:16He even developed his own program and, to his astonishment, discovered that it worked.
01:08:22And if this employee of the US National Security Agency were to be one of the biggest skeptics in
01:08:28The topic has become one of its biggest advocates.
01:08:30But the Bible's secret code, or code B, it must be said, is both right and wrong.
01:08:35Or at least we introduce terms into their inner workings, and sometimes they're right, and sometimes they're catastrophically different from
01:08:43which then actually happens.
01:08:44For example, is it possible that the Bible foretold or precisely marked the arrival of the
01:08:53man on the moon?
01:08:53This happened in the first searches.
01:08:55That's right, but we're talking about a fact that is proven after the fact.
01:08:59I did want to say that it's nothing new.
01:09:01It came out exactly Armstrong, the word Armstrong, the surname of the first man to step on the moon, precisely.
01:09:09Armstrong, for example, and moon, let's imagine that Armstrong's last name is not a very strange last name in the United States.
01:09:14There's even another very famous Armstrong who is the cyclist.
01:09:19Of course, we wanted to think that he was referring to that Armstrong who went up, I mean, Neil, who went up to the moon
01:09:24and that in 1969 he conquered it, the first to set foot on this satellite.
01:09:28But we don't really know; we just want to interpret it that way.
01:09:31And interpretation, for me, is the real key to the issue of why we can't use the
01:09:37Bible code as a prophecy tool.
01:09:39Clear.
01:09:39Not only as a test, but always as something inspiring, even, that we can find messages that even lead us to think
01:09:47I don't know, maybe there's a better future, even if it's sometimes tinged with negative issues.
01:09:53Speaking of the future, David, one of the things that I'm sure scares people the most and that always
01:09:58they wonder.
01:09:58The subject of prophecies, from Nostradamus to Saint Malachy, is one of those that most deeply influence public opinion.
01:10:03public.
01:10:04Prophets, almost always very ominous, who gave a specific number to the day of the end of times, of the four
01:10:11Horsemen of the apocalypse, of the end of days, it can be called many things.
01:10:15And evidently, and we verified it on that legendary day on Milenio III on the SER network, it must be said, the
01:10:21The night we received the most messages in our entire history from interested people asking questions about the code; everyone was asking
01:10:28at the end of the world.
01:10:29I find it a bit macabre, because I imagine that will depend on us and not on any code.
01:10:34But there are different versions, Santiago. Are some figures repeated a lot? 2006?
01:10:402006, 2010 is also one of the figures that is referenced.
01:10:46But Doctors Reeves and Wilson themselves are the first to argue that their discovery is useless or shouldn't be used.
01:10:55It can be used to make prophecies, but it is a mathematical curiosity, let's call it that, that has been absolutely proven.
01:11:03As for it being too much of a coincidence that this happens, I mean, we're talking about coincidences sometimes measured in numbers.
01:11:09greater than one, among several thousand or hundreds of thousands.
01:11:14This is something that was actually published in renowned mathematical journals such as Statistical Science, which is a statistics journal.
01:11:23very prestigious.
01:11:24And that this, as a mathematical curiosity or as an object of scientific study, serves to make prophecies themselves, or
01:11:32In other words, the child's own parents are the first to say, let's be serious, let's not use this to
01:11:39this.
01:11:40Because really, as David Zurdo so aptly put it, it is something whose interpretation we can only truly know in retrospect.
01:11:49Does Hitler appear in the Bible?
01:11:50It appears. And not only does it appear, but it appears in rather suggestive terms, especially if viewed from the point of view of
01:11:58from a Jewish perspective.
01:11:59He's called a Nazi and an enemy. That is to say, a Nazi, of course, and what greater enemy has he ever had?
01:12:06history of the Jewish people that Hitler precisely adopted.
01:12:09Typing that program, that search, into any computer, it arises, one has had to, importantly, it doesn't arise for no reason, one
01:12:17He has had to add the word Hitler, he must have added a few others and he only crosses paths with enemy.
01:12:22Indeed, with Nazi and enemy, which greatly increases the degree of improbability of those words being together.
01:12:29Perhaps the greatest success of The Bible Code, this book by Michael Drosnin, which our colleague David then discussed
01:12:35Lefty transformed it into B code,
01:12:37A worldwide bestseller, accompanied by the number one advertising campaign in the United States, the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Italy, and Israel, naturally.
01:12:43Ten years ago, this story began, and it was then that events that changed the world truly took place.
01:12:489/11, the attack on the Twin Towers, and of course, Drosnin comes up with it, just to take things to the extreme.
01:12:55curl,
01:12:56include in that program that decrypts the approximately 304,000 characters of the Torah, from the first five books of
01:13:04the Bible,
01:13:05And towers, twins, and an airplane emerge.
01:13:09Towers, twins, and an airplane, and many other messages. For example, also the World Trade Center, crossed with the word Arabia.
01:13:15World Trade Center?
01:13:16Let us remember that Bin Laden is of Arab nationality, from the country of Arabia, not just from the Arab region.
01:13:22And more things, for example, one of the searches I did was New York, written in English, which is
01:13:27crosses with Laden, with Atta,
01:13:29who is the pilot of one of the planes.
01:13:30Atta, with double T, Mohammed Atta.
01:13:32Yes, and the word "Arabia" again, for example. That is, we have many messages that contain these words.
01:13:38But as you rightly said, we always have to say which words we want to try to locate.
01:13:42Which doesn't mean that those words are there just because we put them there, but that they are there independently of
01:13:47that we put them up.
01:13:48And how much is there that we don't know? Search.
01:13:49That's the fundamental point.
01:13:51And another important thing too, David.
01:13:54Because we have observed on many occasions, when we have discussed the Bible code or prophecies in other forums,
01:13:59that people are genuinely afraid and that, equally, from this whole conversation, people are taking away the
01:14:04nuclear holocaust 2006.
01:14:06Other ancient prophets, such as the Aztecs, also spoke of the End of the World in 2012.
01:14:11And so many also crashed and burned with ridiculous books about the end of the world in 1984.
01:14:16There is an excellent philosophical-anthropological study called When Prophecy Fails.
01:14:20And the code also fails, therefore it is not perfect.
01:14:23Moreover, I refer to some data.
01:14:26With code B, searching for John Paul II, which was a term that, imagine, got inside the
01:14:33computer with the long agony of the pontiff,
01:14:36Death arises in 2004.
01:14:38O Karol Boitila, death 2004.
01:14:41David, there have been major failures, so I think this alleviates them a little, don't you think?
01:14:44That's how it is.
01:14:44It's a truth machine.
01:14:45It must also be acknowledged that there must be some other problem, and for a reason, because Arafat's death also
01:14:50It is recorded with a one-year delay.
01:14:53This might also lead us to consider other avenues, right?
01:14:56Perhaps the exact year we're trying to interpret isn't quite right, is it?
01:15:02But yes, and for example, it's not only necessary to reach a point like the death of the Pope
01:15:07John Paul II,
01:15:08but also, for example, there cannot be an atomic holocaust.
01:15:10If he's going to end the world in 2006, if afterwards, in 2008, he's going
01:15:14to have a world war.
01:15:15This contradiction ultimately leads us to the conclusion that they are two terrible things, but ultimately it leads us to one
01:15:19positive thing,
01:15:20Which is thinking that both things can't be, right?
01:15:22We have done similar things with computers, computers that don't need to take up an entire building,
01:15:28as we can imagine, and almost like an old measuring tape, going round and round.
01:15:33We have encoded with code B some searches that we imagine may be of interest to the 21st century audience.
01:15:40And we have done it with curiosity, skepticism, and believing that it is a simple mathematical fluke,
01:15:45But it's there, and it's certainly in the United States that it has been guided.
01:15:48Santi, let's start with some that are very interesting.
01:15:51For example, what does the most famous ship of all time, the Titanic, appear like in the Bible?
01:15:57Yes, indeed, it is absolutely remarkable how, if the term Titanic is introduced—here it is—
01:16:07It intersects with things as absolutely unequivocal as the term ice, the term accident,
01:16:15And above all, the exact date, the year in which the accident took place, right?
01:16:22It is one of those cases in which we see that, indeed, in retrospect, after everything has passed, let's say,
01:16:33The Bible code shows astonishing accuracy.
01:16:37Not so much, as we have seen, in cases where we try to make prophecies,
01:16:41But indeed, when we try in some way to verify or underline what happened,
01:16:45That's where the code really shines, let's say.
01:16:48And it does show data beyond any interpretation.
01:16:52I would like that, because, precisely, I am quite skeptical about this matter.
01:16:55in the sense that it has, as our colleagues say, a prophetic reality,
01:16:59But it is very interesting as a curiosity, and that's how we're seeing it.
01:17:02You enter terms and see what comes up, and what doesn't.
01:17:04It's not that we endorse those terms or that search,
01:17:07The program has no errors; it is a computer program.
01:17:10The letters cannot be changed; if any of this information we are providing is incorrect,
01:17:13or by Michael Drosnin, would have been wrong,
01:17:15Any specialist who closely monitored the matter of the Bible would say,
01:17:18No, this letter doesn't match, it matches perfectly; the interpretation is another matter.
01:17:23For example, you looked up, David, one of the most enigmatic popes,
01:17:27He only lasted a few weeks in office; it has always been considered murder.
01:17:32of poisoning, he was a pope who was going to radically change the foundations of the church,
01:17:37of more advanced land, John Paul I, Albino Luciani.
01:17:40Yes, the famous pope of the month, let's say, a little more than a month.
01:17:44What came out?
01:17:44Albino Luciani, for example, has one of the most accurate messages for me,
01:17:47because we found in the Luciani code, the surname, Albino,
01:17:51That is the name of this pope, John Paul I, who was assassinated.
01:17:54and the year 5738, which translated to our dates, is 1978.
01:17:59We were talking about the end of days, the eternal subject of the end of the world that always interests prophets,
01:18:03There have been other previous ends of the world, even if they were regional in scale,
01:18:07For example, Santiago, the Hiroshima bomb, I imagine has also prompted many inquiries.
01:18:13Does it appear in code B?
01:18:14It also comes out in a very clear way.
01:18:17You type Hiroshima and out comes the bomb.
01:18:19And a bomb comes out, and not only does a bomb come out, but it comes out in 1945.
01:18:25It's absolutely unbelievable that these things happen.
01:18:28But I'd like to point out one thing.
01:18:30If there is a book in the world where a message could have been encoded
01:18:35with the absolute certainty that it will endure throughout the centuries,
01:18:39That is precisely what the Torah is.
01:18:40For thousands of years, Jews have continued to write the Torah
01:18:44exactly the same way they say God dictated it the first time.
01:18:49Not word by word, but letter by letter.
01:18:53With such perfection that if he writes, which are still done by hand,
01:18:56If he writes, he makes a mistake; if he makes a small smudge,
01:19:00if he does the slightest thing that could induce error,
01:19:04That Torah, that Torah in draft form, is automatically destroyed, it is buried.
01:19:08It remains impure.
01:19:09It becomes impure and cannot be used.
01:19:12Such is the zeal with which the Jewish people have ensured that it is not distorted,
01:19:17not a single word, not a single term, not a single letter,
01:19:21Everything seems to indicate that it's a message of tremendous importance,
01:19:24Apart from the religious aspect, something that the slightest change of a single character
01:19:30It can distort it; it is vital that it remains.
01:19:33And so it has been for thousands of years.
01:19:35Isaac Rabin, a murderer who will murder.
01:19:39Who wounded JFK? Die, Dallas.
01:19:42Armstrong crosses paths with Luna.
01:19:44Atomic Holocaust, End of Days, 2006.
01:19:47Hitler, Nazi and murderer.
01:19:49Twin Towers,
01:19:51Twin towers and airplane.
01:19:53Juan, did you look for world war or war?
01:19:58Yes, world war, indeed.
01:20:00World War III.
01:20:01Because, although the number was not recorded in the Bible code,
01:20:05since it has happened before, or rather, we are looking for it before it happens,
01:20:09We can say that since everything is contained without time, as the Torah is considered to be,
01:20:13something that has neither past, nor present, nor future,
01:20:15Well, we can look for World War III.
01:20:17And I have found that it intersects with a very specific year, which is 2008, or 5768 in the
01:20:23Jewish calendar.
01:20:24We'll leave the matter here, which I imagine will lead each viewer of Cuarto Milenio to investigate in their own way.
01:20:30with such curious terms as Mars, intersects with humanity, intersects once with conquer,
01:20:35It intersects with travel, it intersects with 2011.
01:20:38Or, for example, stranger things, like Lucifer crossing paths with 666,
01:20:45which would be logical within the context of that writing and that time,
01:20:48What is not clear is whether it intersects with the Holocaust and the year 2007.
01:20:53So far we can read, as they would say on a legendary television program,
01:20:56It's the B code, it's the Bible code, it's a program that has generated countless articles and debates.
01:21:01A Washington Post journalist notices that term first,
01:21:05that assassination of the Israeli prime minister, and we haven't been able to find out anything else either.
01:21:10It's simply that those letters provide those surprising findings.
01:21:14Everyone can interpret it as they wish; that's the rule of this program.
01:21:16Let each person draw their own conclusion.
01:21:19Santiago, by the way, in conclusion, is it a mathematical game, a lucky break, or something more?
01:21:23I think there's more to it. There's a small detail: a Slovak rabbi,
01:21:30Michael Bismarck already discovered this in 1957.
01:21:331957?
01:21:34Yes, but I didn't have what it took to decipher it; I didn't have the computer skills.
01:21:39If someone encoded that message, they encoded it in such a way that until man
01:21:44did not have the computer tools to analyze that data,
01:21:48I couldn't decipher that message.
01:21:50If that message truly exists, it is for us, here and now.
01:21:54As always, thank you very much, Santiago.
01:21:56To you.
01:21:56David, the same question, the same conclusion, a simple mathematical coincidence or something more?
01:22:02It's difficult to say, as I said, mathematical coincidence is always there, we won't be able to avoid it.
01:22:06But I find it hard to believe that it's just a mathematical coincidence, considering the tradition from which this comes.
01:22:12that indeed with computers we have managed to computerize something that has already been attempted for centuries and centuries
01:22:18And I would certainly say that at the very least it opens up avenues of doubt or somewhat strange ways of thinking,
01:22:25which is always positive, to try to find the truth, which in the end is what interests us all.
01:22:29Thank you very much, David Zurdo.
01:22:30Thank you, Iker.
01:22:31For your first visit, David Zurdo, author of this book, Code B, the hidden messages that the Bible hides from us,
01:22:36which also argued the program where one can experiment.
01:22:40And as we say, let everyone think what they want, because this is certainly surprising.
01:22:45It is surprising to weave together divine tradition, the first sacred words with computer science and technology.
01:22:51That two seemingly antagonistic worlds exist, yet they provide certain answers.
01:22:56It's no surprise that these books have been bestsellers.
01:22:58Is there anything more mind-blowing than thinking that this was written while going out and getting to know our future?
01:23:04Is there anything more surprising than imagining that what will happen to this entire genre is contained within those characters?
01:23:10human, to all of humanity?
01:23:12Of course, we can only say one thing: we will continue to wait and continue to do what we can.
01:23:18investigating, waiting for events.
01:23:19We are certain that the Bible's secret code is, firstly, wrong about the end of the world in 2006,
01:23:24And secondly, it will still be a topic of discussion.
01:23:28Now we'll move on to photographs.
01:23:29We have been seeing all this time codes, computer images, letters that track themselves, that intersect,
01:23:36that intersect.
01:23:37Now let's tackle another computer enigma, because most of the photographs that reach us at Cuarto Milenio are
01:23:42digital photographs.
01:23:44Digital photographs full of questions.
01:24:04The photographs of strange, unknown faces that suddenly emerge in the digital image,
01:24:10They are undoubtedly the most mysterious, or at least the ones that produce the greatest sense of dread in our audience.
01:24:18We have three good examples, Carmen.
01:24:20The first one was sent to us by Charlie from Benidorm.
01:24:24He told us that he took a photograph of two of his friends, and suddenly he realized that a stranger appeared in it.
01:24:29face behind,
01:24:31What is most unusual is its tone, an intense and very powerful blue.
01:24:35We have analyzed this image and initially there are no signs of digital retouching in the information of the
01:24:41photograph.
01:24:42The first thing we did was investigate the nature of that face, which belongs to a girl who
01:24:47He is indeed in that place.
01:24:49We also appreciate that the right side of the face appears with a normal tone and that it has long hair and
01:24:56who is holding a kind of glass in his hands.
01:24:59One possible explanation is the existence of some point of light similar to the one we observed at the top of
01:25:04the photograph.
01:25:05It's quite powerful and also has that blue hue that made this poor girl appear with
01:25:11ghostly form.
01:25:12And Don Guillermo doesn't miss a thing.
01:25:14If I saw this face, the last thing I'd think is that it belonged to a man, or to a woman.
01:25:19In this case, flesh and blood.
01:25:20But that's how it is. What about this one where a child, an infant, appears?
01:25:24Fernando Martínez sent us this image that was captured 20 years ago.
01:25:28The person who appears in it, who was a little boy, was 5 years old, now he is 25.
01:25:34But there is something that emerges right behind him, a kind of woman's face, Iker.
01:25:40Quite creepy, indeed.
01:25:41This is a scanned photograph of an original on normal photographic media.
01:25:46The face that appears above the girl could be due to a double exposure in the film.
01:25:51because next to it, on the left side of that same image, certain parts belonging to another can be seen.
01:25:57scene,
01:25:57which is not the one we are considering.
01:25:59In the absence of a negative test result, if that were the case, we would have to accept this explanation.
01:26:06But, if Fernando Martínez is watching, we would appreciate it if he could send us that negative so we can give him a more detailed explanation.
01:26:14And we end up with a face, but a face that screams.
01:26:18Miguel Ángel Benjumea sent it to us from Seville.
01:26:22He said he was touring Morocco, they were traveling by bus,
01:26:27And suddenly they passed by a cemetery, the Muslim cemetery.
01:26:31He decided to take a series of photographs and what they captured through the glass is something very strange.
01:26:37In the center of the image, that face appears above the gravestones of the cemetery.
01:26:41As you rightly said before, Iker, he seems to be shouting, or at least he appears a bit aggressive.
01:26:46It could very well be the reflection of the headrest of the image we see reflected in that glass.
01:26:52Furthermore, if we look closely, the blue tone of the face is similar to the color of the headrest.
01:26:59that we have in that foreground.
01:27:00However, we have highlighted that face and created a three-dimensional recreation,
01:27:05since the resulting formation is undeniably unsettling,
01:27:08because it perfectly outlines what would be a face looking upwards
01:27:12and it also has that expression we mentioned before of suffering or pain,
01:27:17as if it were a scream.
01:27:19If you have ever obtained in ancient times,
01:27:22in paper negative photographs or with modern, digital cameras,
01:27:27You already know that there are two essential and well-known addresses, Carmen.
01:27:31The first way is through our email at 4tomilenio.com
01:27:36And of course, the post office box, which you already know is open 24 hours a day.
01:27:41Section 18.189, using the Madrid postal code 28.080.
01:27:46Send us your documents because in the meantime we will continue investigating.
01:27:50searching, investigating.
01:27:51It is our job, especially because there are still mysteries that challenge us.
01:27:55As you know, we are Cuarto Milenio.
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