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00:00:18Welcome to Fourth Millennium.
00:00:19Tonight our mystery ship travels to some of the sacred Templar sites in Spain.
00:00:24Places where a strange secret still remains that no one has managed to decipher.
00:00:28We will also explore the narrow streets of a small town in Badajoz.
00:00:32This week there is talk of a specter worthy of another time.
00:00:36There they call it the Pantaruja.
00:00:38And finally, pay close attention to the stunning images brought to us by two reporters from Haiti and some other locations.
00:00:44from Africa.
00:00:44These are images of witchcraft, zombies, and rituals never seen before.
00:00:52There were nine knights and in a very short time they became the most powerful order in Europe.
00:00:58Nobody knows why they ended up condemned to die at the stake.
00:01:02Tonight we uncover the secrets of the Spanish Templars.
00:01:09A mysterious apparition has kept a town in Badajoz on edge for two weeks.
00:01:14Several neighbors have seen her and nobody knows for sure what is happening.
00:01:19A role-playing game? A joke that's too mean?
00:01:23A true mystery?
00:01:27Zombies are real people who were unearthed by sorcerers practicing authentic voodoo.
00:01:34Slaves without conscience, condemned to work day and night at the orders of the bócor or black sorcerer.
00:01:40Tonight, Cuarto Milenio delves into the darkness of a world always forbidden to white men.
00:01:53Night of March 13, 1814, on a small island called the Isle of the Jews, in the middle of the Seine.
00:01:59There, several soldiers lead Jacques de Molay, the last great master of the Templars, to the flames, to the stake.
00:02:05They say that almost with fire crackling in his body, he launched a final prophecy, launched a final act of revenge.
00:02:12Clement V, Pope, says, "I summon you before the tribunal of God in 40 days."
00:02:18And you, King Philip, before a year has passed.
00:02:21Indeed, barely a month passed before Pope Clement died in his chambers from a strange illness.
00:02:28The doctors could do nothing.
00:02:29Later, that king, who had entrusted the end of the great Templar order, died in an accident with his horse.
00:02:37banging against some branches.
00:02:39The prophecy had been fulfilled.
00:02:41From that moment on, the Templars gained ground.
00:02:43They begin to become an order that has disappeared, but at the same time is revered.
00:02:49Its mystery has also remained in some parts of Spain.
00:02:52It's time, together with our colleague Juan Vallejo, to explore these mysterious enclaves.
00:02:57There stood the poor knights of Christ.
00:03:01The story tells of nine knights, devout and fearful of God's power, who risked their lives on a perilous journey
00:03:08which led them to the heart of the Holy Land.
00:03:19The year of our Lord was 1118, a difficult time, shrouded in endless battles between Christian Europe and the
00:03:28The Muslim East.
00:03:29At stake were the enclaves that Jesus Christ had walked upon, and many were prepared to go to war.
00:03:35in order to keep the holy places away from unfaithful spirits.
00:03:39Thus the Order of the Temple was born, as a community of men willing to give their lives for the memory of
00:03:45Christ.
00:03:46It is actually an order of chivalry that was created for the strict protection of the Holy Land.
00:03:52In this respect it differs somewhat from the other great orders that were created in Palestine in the 13th century, such as
00:03:58the hospital staff or the tutors,
00:03:59which originally had a hospital function, that is, care for pilgrims, a function of what we would call
00:04:05benefactors.
00:04:06They were, in a way, mini-NGOs, which also had a warrior and warlike component, which in their temper, however,
00:04:12He stood out from the beginning.
00:04:14Today, there are hardly any written documents left that tell us about the true motivation that led a group of knights to
00:04:20create the mysterious order of the temple.
00:04:22And that increases its enigma with the passing of centuries.
00:04:26It seems certain that they owe their name to the fact that they were established on the old ruins of the ancient Temple of Solomon.
00:04:32in Jerusalem.
00:04:32A place that, according to chronicles, was filled with fabulous riches and objects of great power, sought after by all.
00:04:39cultures.
00:04:40To this day, there are many who believe they have found some of those treasures.
00:04:45And that made them a rich and influential community from the very day of their birth.
00:04:51Well, in the Order of the Temple there were as many as 40,000 people.
00:04:54Clearly, it is an order shrouded in mystery, because the moment of its founding already represents a great deal
00:05:01enigma.
00:05:03They claimed credit for something that wasn't actually what they went to Palestine to do: protect the pilgrims.
00:05:11For eight years, instead of protecting pilgrims, they dedicated themselves to excavating a mountain, the mountain where there had been
00:05:15state the old temple of Jerusalem.
00:05:17And they must have found something that they brought back to Europe, and from that moment on they grew exponentially.
00:05:22The Templar order did indeed involve handling great treasures.
00:05:24In both senses that we understand spiritual treasures in Christianity and in the Western world, they came to have a
00:05:30vast knowledge.
00:05:32Furthermore, due to their contact with Islam and other Christian religions, such as the Orthodox Church or
00:05:38the Armenian church,
00:05:39with which they were in contact from their life in the Holy Land, as well as goods in the material sense,
00:05:44since they were in a way the initiators of modern banking.
00:05:48The Knights Templar order disappeared suddenly in 1314, condemned by a church that distrusted an organization that had come to
00:05:56to accumulate great power in a very short time.
00:05:58Seven centuries later, we explore almost forgotten places in our country, where fascinating Templar constructions can still be seen.
00:06:06These buildings are full of secrets, where the smallest details silently tell us about the lives of these courageous people.
00:06:15warrior monks.
00:06:16It must be remembered that Spain had already been a melting pot of cultures for several centuries, of the three incredible cultures.
00:06:21That Kabbalah, which is Jewish esotericism, let's say its root, its medieval written origin, focuses on
00:06:31Spain.
00:06:32And that in Spain there had been writings by mystics, esotericists of Sufism and also about themselves.
00:06:40Spain was a strategic location for them, not only for military reasons, but for other reasons that have been unfairly overlooked.
00:06:47forgotten by history.
00:06:49Mysteries that have to do with the power of certain places and with the ancient wisdom dedicated to identifying the
00:06:55authentic sacred sites.
00:06:59There is no doubt that the Templar issue is in vogue.
00:07:02The history of the Templars, the Templars and the lost word, the secret goal of the Templars, the enigma of
00:07:09The Templars...
00:07:10The word is repeated because it sounds mysterious, enigmatic. People want to know more.
00:07:14And why? Why this kind of passion for a people who disappeared almost seven centuries ago?
00:07:20We have as our guest an editor, a writer, and someone who has worked on many of these books...
00:07:25...and that has brought this issue to the attention of the general public in the last 20 years.
00:07:29This is Sebastián Vázquez. Good evening, Sebastián. Welcome to Cuarto Milenio.
00:07:32Thank you, Iker. Good night.
00:07:34Hey, why so much fervor for the Templars so long afterward?
00:07:38Because the Templars have become a myth.
00:07:41His death, the death of the Templars, the extinction of the Temple, his own birth shrouded in mystery...
00:07:51...and above all the accusations made against them of heresy, of strange rites, all that stuff that lies behind the temple.
00:07:57Why not say it? The famous mystery of the Temple treasure, the Temple money that never surfaced...
00:08:04...nor its documents; all of that has, over time, created a myth surrounding this order...
00:08:11...that in the end, history and legend have merged, creating a strange amalgam...
00:08:18...but it has indeed made the Templars fashionable.
00:08:21Although I must say it's not recent, you have a book there that's been published for 20 years, right?
00:08:26And nowadays, well indeed, this whole, let's say, esoteric part of the temple, is absolutely in fashion.
00:08:35And why would it end that way, with the last Grand Master at the stake? What happened?
00:08:41We were saying that in Spain there are places of power, places that were not chosen for no reason, it was not a coincidence.
00:08:47It seems that the Templars were also guarding some much more important secret.
00:08:51For example, knowing the telluric energy sites, the sites where they could settle.
00:08:57A truly supreme knowledge.
00:08:59Our colleague Juan Vallejo has gathered some information on these points.
00:09:03Hot spots, points that are still there and that we no longer know how to read.
00:09:07Walk with us, with Cuarto Milenio, through that Templar Spain.
00:09:13It is not a legend, but a palpable reality.
00:09:16A powerful and primitive enigma still penetrates the very depths of anyone who sets foot in this small temple.
00:09:22The Church of the True Cross in Segovia.
00:09:26It currently belongs to the Order of Malta, but in the past, it was one of the key locations for the Knights Templar.
00:09:32our country.
00:09:33In its center stands a small shrine that, like a tower, represents for many the tree of life.
00:09:38Its halls were used as a setting for ceremonies, the content of which was lost forever in the mists of time.
00:09:46But we also have the iconographic elements.
00:09:48The iconographic elements are fundamentally the corbels.
00:09:52The corbels and some capitals, where symbolic elements appear that may be related, for example, to alchemical figures.
00:10:01Such as harpies, or a number of animals that occur in pairs, such as wolves.
00:10:07Or places like San Bartolomé de Ucero, which is practically the bible of corbels, where we can find zodiac signs,
00:10:16Templar heads, barrels and all kinds of elements.
00:10:21But the most surprising thing about this place is that if we leave a pendulum right in its center, it will
00:10:26It moves thanks to a force whose origin we still do not know.
00:10:30It is just one of the many examples that shows us how the ancient Knights Templar always built their
00:10:36churches in centers of power, which had previously been sacred to other religions.
00:10:42This is undoubtedly one of the most controversial points of the Templar enigma.
00:10:46The possibility, investigated by many scholars and historians, who speak of this order as a group of connoisseurs of
00:10:53ancient mysteries, from the wisdom of authentic energy maps, which they would use for different purposes.
00:11:00A key place to understand this knowledge of the warrior monks is the hermitage in the Lobos River canyon, in
00:11:07right in the heart of the province of Soria.
00:11:09The function, surely the most important that this hermitage on the Lobos River, in Lucero, had, is a function of spiritual initiation.
00:11:19That is, an approach by qualified individuals within the Knights Templar, to a kind of rapprochement
00:11:28mystical towards God, to call it something.
00:11:30This causes a series of transformations in man, both internally in the soul and in the spirit, even also
00:11:39in the body.
00:11:39Located in a place of singular beauty, its strategic value was nil in the Middle Ages.
00:11:45However, the fact that the Templars settled precisely there was by no means a simple coincidence.
00:11:51It is located at the central point of the Iberian Peninsula, insofar as the two most extensive points of the
00:11:58Iberian Peninsula, which are Cape Creus on one side, and Cape Finisterre on the other, if
00:12:03We joined them, the middle, right here in the hermitage of the Lobos river canyon.
00:12:06The fact that the hermitage is located precisely at the midpoint between Cape Creus and
00:12:11The one in Finisterre is a discovery of the Spanish writer Juan García Atienza.
00:12:16How were the Templars able to find this information, without such precise maps existing in antiquity?
00:12:22It remains an enigma to this day.
00:12:24But if we're talking about mystery, we shouldn't forget the natural setting in which this building is located.
00:12:31It should be noted that we have a large cave, where some rituals have surely been performed since prehistoric times.
00:12:37There are even cave paintings.
00:12:39On the other hand, it is likely that where the hermitage now stands, there once existed a pagan temple, perhaps even
00:12:46a dolmen or a mení, something.
00:12:48They are no longer here, but their works continue to speak for them.
00:12:53Over valleys and castles, on the facades of old churches, mysterious symbols continue to tell us that the faith of those
00:13:01Men condemned to die on the unjust flames of a bonfire, has not been lost forever.
00:13:06For every time a pilgrim or traveler enters one of its buildings with a thirst for knowledge, he will feel
00:13:14Within it, the energy and wisdom of the temple remain, very present despite the centuries and
00:13:21from long oblivion.
00:13:22Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah.
00:13:46The images, documents, engravings, capitals, and stones are all interesting and undoubtedly speak volumes.
00:13:52Why that strange ending?
00:13:54Is it true, Sebastián Vázquez, that the Templars spat on the cross and worshipped figures that were once condemned?
00:14:00of demonic ones, like the so-called Baphomet, that strange face that appears in some of these places we have visited?
00:14:05Was it true? Were they veiled accusations meant to get rid of them?
00:14:10Basically, what's closing is that there's a plot, a plot between the Pope and the King of France to
00:14:15to get rid of them and great accusations are made against them, including the ones you have said.
00:14:22On the other hand, it must be understood that they are tortured, so all the testimonies that are born under torture, well, naturally,
00:14:29In fact, many of them later retract their statements.
00:14:32The main accusations are indeed the ones you mention.
00:14:35Heresy, insofar as in the ceremony of admission as knights they were required to spit on the cross, to give obscene kisses
00:14:45and, above all, to venerate a head, described as a head that they called the Baphomet.
00:14:53Sometimes she is described as a dark, bearded head, which others sometimes say was given a
00:15:01a kind of cord and they venerated it.
00:15:05What is the meaning of Baphomet? There are many interpretations.
00:15:10I prefer that one, especially because of its parallels.
00:15:13We can go back in time very far, the parallel of the famous mysteries, the famous mysteries of Egypt, where
00:15:22We see that also, even back then and quite late in time,
00:15:26There was also talk of a head, in this case the head of Osiris, venerated in his sanctuary, in his temple,
00:15:36and that this then happens to the Greco-Latin world.
00:15:40Is it possible that this tradition will reach the temple, that these mysteries will reach the temple? It's likely, it's likely.
00:15:48What is certain, and there is no doubt about it, is that the Templars practiced a kind of thinking of the court
00:15:55heterodox and whose practices were certainly not at all adapted to what the church was.
00:16:03They were not well-received, without a doubt. Practices that led to their abrupt end.
00:16:07But let's also consider this fact. Why did they choose those places? Why sites that seemingly had no significance?
00:16:13Significance in defense, are they suddenly also marked by mystery?
00:16:18As we have seen in the report, some are equidistant from certain points, caves where there were ancient traditions.
00:16:25It seems the Templars possessed this secret knowledge and that their centers of power were a reality.
00:16:29They knew them very well.
00:16:31What could they know? Why those places and not others? Why such remote locations?
00:16:35There is already a very old tradition of places of power, and we can go to the Bible, right?
00:16:41That place that Jacob blesses, where he has the dream of God's ladder, where angels go up and down.
00:16:49Incidentally, many of these Templar sites feature stairways to heaven.
00:16:52Exactly. Or the myth of the stone. That stone where Jacob rests his head.
00:17:00This whole myth of the sacred place, of that place that is like a doorway, a connection between the divine and
00:17:07the human,
00:17:08It is present in many cultures. From Celtic culture, of course, to Jewish culture, and so on.
00:17:14It is possible and certain that the Templars chose many of these places that were already designated by ancestral tradition.
00:17:23and then they possibly chose some new ones.
00:17:28In other words, these people knew very well what the telluric lines were.
00:17:31Places of power, Sebastian, where mysterious, strange things happen.
00:17:35We saw how some people believe that, for example, in the Church of the True Cross,
00:17:38It is said to belong to the Templars; there are strange forces, and experiments are being done.
00:17:42Elsewhere it is said that many other cultures, for example, already buried their dead or performed their rituals.
00:17:48ancient.
00:17:49Do different things happen, or can ordinary people notice something different in those places chosen by the Templars?
00:17:57Well, it must be said that this is always a subjective experience.
00:18:00What is certain is that, for example, on the Camino de Santiago, where there are many of these places,
00:18:07Let us remember Eunate, let us remember Torres del Río, let us remember Villa Alcázar de Sígraga,
00:18:14just to give a few examples.
00:18:16And it's true, you only have to be there to see that pilgrims,
00:18:20Some are believers, some make the journey for emotional reasons, others do not.
00:18:25They do indeed declare that in those places they have had, let's say, extrasensory experiences.
00:18:32What is real and what is not? Since it is always a subjective experience, it is very difficult to assess.
00:18:39But what is certain, and there is no doubt about it, is simply being there in these places.
00:18:44and observe how many pilgrims, many visitors, do perceive something, let's say, different.
00:18:51At Cuarto Milenio, we also want to propose different kinds of journeys.
00:18:55If you go to those places and find that it was worthwhile because you encountered a vision
00:18:59We are satisfied with the antiquity that I did not know.
00:19:02Are there still Templars left, Sebastian?
00:19:06Well, there are many who claim that they are.
00:19:08Personally, in my personal opinion, I doubt it.
00:19:11I believe that in 1314, when Jacques de Molay died at the stake, that's where the Templars ended.
00:19:16Furthermore, I believe it was done consciously, because we also mentioned its disappearance earlier.
00:19:22And that's where the mystery lies.
00:19:24Why? When they are arrested, when Nogaret, King Philip's prime minister,
00:19:31He's going to arrest them, he's going to capture them; the Templars have already hidden all their money.
00:19:38all their documents, that is, they had perfectly...
00:19:41That they were going to be persecuted.
00:19:42And let us remember that in France alone there were then around 4,000 Templars
00:19:47plus his entire army of Tugoscupolos.
00:19:49In other words, an absolutely tremendous force.
00:19:53They don't defend themselves.
00:19:54They don't defend themselves.
00:19:55That is another enigma that historians have not been able to solve.
00:20:01We always speak in the past tense, but there are people, we say, who consider themselves neo-Templars.
00:20:05That is, modern-day Templars, who continue to venerate the old values
00:20:09of these poor knights of Christ.
00:20:11It's a very controversial topic.
00:20:12Purists say no, it's not possible, that when that burning of Jacques de Molay occurred
00:20:16The whole story is over.
00:20:17And others have followed, in more or less small societies,
00:20:20even in study committees, as is the case with Templo España.
00:20:24We see and hear their director of research.
00:20:30Templo España is a society for medieval studies, specifically Templar studies.
00:20:37and is primarily dedicated to research.
00:20:41One of their goals is also to achieve something they've wanted for a long time.
00:20:47attempts are being made by associations known as neo-Templars,
00:20:53But in this case, from a canonical point of view, let's say.
00:21:02In other words, it would be the restoration of the Templar order.
00:21:05but doing so through a canonical restoration.
00:21:14The fascination with tempera will continue, we are convinced.
00:21:17One day we may know the true secret of its origin and its treasures.
00:21:20Hopefully, right, Sebastian?
00:21:21I hope those documents turn up, I hope those treasures turn up.
00:21:24And from there we will be able to learn much more about temperance.
00:21:28Although the investigations continue, so does the interest.
00:21:31And I believe that new data is always emerging.
00:21:34which are revealing things about this extraordinary order.
00:21:37A fascinating investigation indeed, Sebastian.
00:21:39Thank you so much for your first visit to Cuarto Milenio.
00:21:41Thanks to you, Iker.
00:21:42Indeed, well, in this 21st century,
00:21:45perhaps a reflection of the spirit of that order
00:21:47It remains in such an unexpected place for swashbuckling knights.
00:21:51such as cyberspace.
00:21:52The network, the network of networks, the internet,
00:21:55It remains a refuge, in quotes,
00:21:57quite hospitable to these poor gentlemen.
00:22:01Santiago Camacho has toured the hotspots
00:22:04who still speak of that temperament
00:22:05which for most of the members is still alive.
00:22:12A simple search for the words templar or templat in English
00:22:15on any of the major internet search engines
00:22:17It will tell us to what extent this topic generates great public interest.
00:22:23We will find hundreds of thousands, millions of pages related to this topic.
00:22:27Unfortunately, they contain all sorts of things.
00:22:30From serious and rigorous study groups
00:22:34like the templeespaña.org page
00:22:37even others who hold the most outlandish theories
00:22:41that would even make a novelist hesitate when considering a plot.
00:22:48From groups, let's call them, neo-Templars
00:22:51as the sovereign and military order of the Temple of Jerusalem
00:22:55even destructive cults
00:22:59like the infamous Solar Temple sect
00:23:02which made newspaper headlines due to their collective suicide
00:23:06that can cause tremendous damage.
00:23:09To discern between one and the other, between the chaff and the wheat, on this subject
00:23:14As always, it's up to us internet users.
00:23:20You already know that our mystery ship
00:23:22It has the ability to move without any problem in space-time.
00:23:25Therefore, we leave behind the dark and medieval times of the Templars
00:23:29right up to today, even the photographs, the documents.
00:23:32Always full of surprises and always brought here by Carmen Porter.
00:23:35Good evening, Carmen.
00:23:36Good evening, Iker.
00:23:38Surprises like the one we found in this image
00:23:40that Antonio Izquierdo sent us.
00:23:42A person very close to him underwent a serious operation.
00:23:46They took some photographs while he was still recovering.
00:23:49And what we see is truly impressive.
00:23:52A figure of a nun in a white habit
00:23:54with a series of blue stripes
00:23:58and you can even see the cross he wears around his neck.
00:24:01And apparently, there's an explanation for this.
00:24:04It's a double exposure because it's a film camera.
00:24:07that it was most likely exposed twice.
00:24:10In other words, that he rewound that reel,
00:24:13have used it again
00:24:14and then those two images were superimposed.
00:24:17Well, then we have a ghost product of the technique.
00:24:20A purely mechanical adjustment has caused this strange anomaly.
00:24:23There are much rarer ones, Carmen.
00:24:25Others, much rarer, that sometimes appear on television,
00:24:29as you will see in the coming weeks,
00:24:30but also in the closets.
00:24:32On the glass, this time,
00:24:33This is the photograph that Beatriz Pola sent us from Valladolid.
00:24:37He said he saw an effigy when he took a photograph
00:24:41to one of his closets.
00:24:43And also our IT analyst, Guillermo de León,
00:24:46He gave us an explanation.
00:24:48This curious image resembles a face peeking out
00:24:50through one of those glass panes in the door
00:24:52and appears to be caused by a combination of stains
00:24:55that have reflected the flash light off the camera.
00:24:58Well, you know there are always two ways to contact us
00:25:00so that they can send us all these kinds of strange anomalies
00:25:04which sometimes have an explanation.
00:25:05Two ways to contact us. The first, as always,
00:25:07via email at cuartomilenio@4.com
00:25:12And, of course, also if they want to send us letters,
00:25:15They will have to do it this time to a post office box,
00:25:1918189, using the postal code for Madrid,
00:25:23which is 28080.
00:25:25Needless to say, we look forward to your full cooperation.
00:25:28to continue investigating and discovering mysteries.
00:25:31Mysteries like the one that has amazed
00:25:33and, we could say, that he terrified an entire town in Badajoz.
00:25:36Have you ever heard of the mysterious Pantaruja?
00:25:43For the past month, a strange being has been wandering around.
00:25:46through different places in Albuquerque.
00:25:48The sightings of Pantaruja continue to divide the locals.
00:25:52For many, it's a tasteless joke
00:25:55which tarnishes the image of the population.
00:25:57For others, it's encounters with the spectral figure
00:26:00They are a resounding reality.
00:26:192005 has left us with news worthy of another time.
00:26:23I read full page headlines
00:26:25from the newspaper Hoy, the oldest in the Extremadura press,
00:26:28Pantaruja continues to haunt the night in Albuquerque.
00:26:32It refers to the beautiful town of Albuquerque
00:26:34in the province of Badajoz.
00:26:36Days later, on the back page,
00:26:39Psychosis in Albuquerque.
00:26:41In this town, there's only one thing people are talking about.
00:26:43A Pantaruja or specter wanders from night to night
00:26:46on several streets dressed in white.
00:26:49Keep going, the days keep passing in this last week
00:26:52And the level of anxiety increases, as is to be expected.
00:26:55A person dressed as Pantaruja
00:26:57It has a large part of the population on edge.
00:27:01The Pantaruja, the scarecrow, the apparition, the specter,
00:27:04The penitent has many names.
00:27:05It is a figure we thought had been forgotten.
00:27:07and which is typical of the Middle Ages in different parts of Spain.
00:27:10There are people in this town who claim to have seen her.
00:27:13Some even say that in this 21st century
00:27:15It could just be the work of some pranksters,
00:27:17from a role-playing game, perhaps,
00:27:18of a kind of ritual,
00:27:20of a kind of secret society,
00:27:22of people who are even conducting a sociological experiment
00:27:25to measure fear in this small population.
00:27:28What the hell is going on in that town of Albuquerque?
00:27:30Our colleague Francisco Contreras
00:27:32He was there to tell the tale.
00:27:37For the past month,
00:27:38A strange being wanders through different places in Albuquerque.
00:27:42The appearances of the Pantaruja
00:27:44They keep the locals divided.
00:27:46For many,
00:27:47It's a bad joke
00:27:49which tarnishes the image of the population.
00:27:51For others,
00:27:52encounters with the spectral figure
00:27:54They are a resounding reality.
00:27:57Angel, were you telling me about the Pantaruja thing?
00:28:00Is it a story?
00:28:01Yes, I think this is a hoax.
00:28:03foolishly,
00:28:03that there is nothing here,
00:28:04neither Pantaruga, nor Pantarugo.
00:28:07No, does it stretch?
00:28:08Want to talk about...
00:28:10I'm really looking forward to this, guys!
00:28:11...the journalists.
00:28:12This is all a drag
00:28:13that have been taken out there
00:28:13four catfish and that's it.
00:28:17It's a chat from the Jaca Cañero.
00:28:19That's also a lie,
00:28:20Because lately,
00:28:21when there were no comments here,
00:28:22the town was dead
00:28:24And it's caught us by many years,
00:28:25Well, they also performed that routine.
00:28:27so that people would have something to talk about.
00:28:28I won't tell you anything else,
00:28:29that this is all a lie.
00:28:31No, man,
00:28:31There's something there,
00:28:32something...
00:28:32Is there nothing?
00:28:32Is there nothing?
00:28:33Is there nothing?
00:28:33Have you seen anything over there?
00:28:34Goes!
00:28:35This is a lie.
00:28:37The Pantarujas in Alburquerque,
00:28:40Well,
00:28:40She was a bit like that person.
00:28:42that to continue their romantic relationships,
00:28:46some of those that were not allowed
00:28:49within society,
00:28:50that is to say,
00:28:50a married woman
00:28:51with a man
00:28:52Unlike her husband,
00:28:54or vice versa,
00:28:55or a married man,
00:28:57or a man who was going to see
00:28:58a married woman and such,
00:29:00then the way there was
00:29:01upon arriving at the site
00:29:02It was about being fully covered.
00:29:04from top to bottom
00:29:05and that no one noticed
00:29:06until you arrived
00:29:07to the amorous encounter,
00:29:09So that was it
00:29:09so there existed
00:29:12the Pantarujas,
00:29:12It wasn't for the purpose
00:29:13to go and scare anyone.
00:29:19Headlines like
00:29:20The Pantaruja continues to cause concern
00:29:22the night in Alburquer,
00:29:24or Psychosis in Albuquerque,
00:29:26published by the newspaper Hoy,
00:29:28have aroused concern
00:29:30among the neighbors.
00:29:31What's unusual is that someone
00:29:32decides to dress in white,
00:29:34to put on a hood,
00:29:35some chains
00:29:36and go out onto the street
00:29:37to scare someone,
00:29:38That's what's unusual.
00:29:40and well,
00:29:41beyond knowing
00:29:42if it's a scarecrow
00:29:45that they say
00:29:46or something supernatural
00:29:47or it isn't,
00:29:48What interests us
00:29:49It's that it wakes up
00:29:50people's attention,
00:29:51the interest,
00:29:52and we tried
00:29:53to tell things
00:29:54to our readers
00:29:55of what happens to them
00:29:56around.
00:29:58And well,
00:29:59We're not going in anymore.
00:30:00at greater depths,
00:30:02No?
00:30:03The last two weeks
00:30:04the comments
00:30:05They haven't done
00:30:06more than grow.
00:30:07They put on a
00:30:09white salt,
00:30:11They were carrying a candle,
00:30:12others say
00:30:13who were carrying a knife,
00:30:14we were
00:30:15fearful
00:30:15and fear,
00:30:17as is happening now,
00:30:18I haven't seen her,
00:30:19but the kids
00:30:20They send them
00:30:20to the sewing center
00:30:23that there is a cinema,
00:30:24and the kids
00:30:25They don't want to go.
00:30:26They don't want to go
00:30:26because they say
00:30:27that they are afraid
00:30:28of the pantaluga.
00:30:29And when it arrives
00:30:30at seven
00:30:30or around
00:30:31I'm leaving now
00:30:32right to my house
00:30:32because it scares me
00:30:34if I were to find myself
00:30:35in that case.
00:30:37One of the first incidents
00:30:38took place
00:30:39in Fear Alley,
00:30:41in the gloomy
00:30:41cobbled passageway
00:30:42that connects the streets
00:30:44of Saint Anthony
00:30:44and Saint Peter.
00:30:45José Miguel Gemio
00:30:46so beautiful
00:30:47he stumbled
00:30:48with something very strange.
00:30:50That has happened
00:30:51now approximately
00:30:51about ten days
00:30:52in which José Miguel
00:30:54He arrived home
00:30:55that is happening
00:30:55the Alley
00:30:56and arrived
00:30:57around five
00:30:58in the early morning
00:30:58when it has been found
00:30:59in this work
00:31:00that's right here
00:31:01has been found
00:31:01to the pantaluja
00:31:02and has been the only person
00:31:04that has interacted
00:31:05with her
00:31:06because the pantaluja
00:31:07It looked like he was going to scare him
00:31:08something that generally
00:31:10It has not been normal
00:31:11and he has tried
00:31:13remove his mask
00:31:14that he was wearing.
00:31:15Then they got into a fight
00:31:15both
00:31:16so that José Miguel
00:31:17He took a cane from him
00:31:19which leads to the pantaluja
00:31:19and the pantaluja
00:31:20He ran away
00:31:21and he broke it
00:31:22the cane
00:31:24on the back
00:31:25to the pantaluja.
00:31:25What stands out the most
00:31:27It's that apart from the candle
00:31:28that wore
00:31:29because he was wearing
00:31:30a chain
00:31:31tied to the waist
00:31:32something that others
00:31:33who have seen it
00:31:33well no
00:31:34They say he wasn't going
00:31:35with that chain.
00:31:35The incident generated
00:31:37all kinds of speculation
00:31:38and there were even
00:31:39who stated
00:31:40that the forces
00:31:40State security
00:31:41had intervened
00:31:42to clarify the facts.
00:31:44There has been no
00:31:45no official complaint
00:31:46by no neighbor
00:31:48that it has had
00:31:48no problem
00:31:49of this type
00:31:51with no one
00:31:52or that
00:31:52Well
00:31:53that it has occurred
00:31:55a
00:31:57not even slight
00:31:58disturbance
00:31:59of public order
00:32:00and that it has so manifested itself
00:32:01both to the Civil Guard
00:32:02like the police.
00:32:03That is to say
00:32:03That has never existed
00:32:04really.
00:32:05There are rumors circulating.
00:32:06as such
00:32:07It even reaches the mayor himself.
00:32:08but because
00:32:09in the end it has a relationship
00:32:10with the neighbors
00:32:11and they tell you the gossip
00:32:12from time to time.
00:32:13In the castle
00:32:14of Albuquerque
00:32:15built in the 14th century
00:32:16by Álvaro de Luna
00:32:17have also occurred
00:32:19encounters
00:32:19allegedly
00:32:21supernatural
00:32:21in recent days.
00:32:22We are at the Tower of Banners
00:32:23which is another of the places
00:32:24where it has been seen
00:32:25to the Pantarujas.
00:32:26Specifically, it has been
00:32:27a boy
00:32:28that came
00:32:29at the time it turns off
00:32:30the light of the castle
00:32:31at half past twelve
00:32:32around there
00:32:32coming on foot
00:32:33towards the part
00:32:34from below the castle
00:32:34when he has seen
00:32:35at the door
00:32:36of the Tower of Banners
00:32:37has seen the Pantarujas.
00:32:39Then
00:32:40has gone up
00:32:41and it has gone up
00:32:42all these stairs
00:32:43and it has appeared there
00:32:45and arrived
00:32:45well, like
00:32:46it is almost always the norm
00:32:48the candle arrived
00:32:49and he was dressed
00:32:50all in white
00:32:51and believes it carries
00:32:52a hood
00:32:52also in the area
00:32:53of the head.
00:32:54The most perplexing case
00:32:56has starred in it
00:32:57José Pablo Rodríguez.
00:32:59It happened nearby
00:33:005 a.m.
00:33:01of December 15th.
00:33:03After parking
00:33:04your vehicle
00:33:05and when it was available
00:33:06to start working
00:33:07in the bakery
00:33:08located on the outskirts
00:33:09checked how someone
00:33:11I was watching him
00:33:12in complete darkness.
00:33:14And when I had twisted
00:33:15at the moment
00:33:16I had twisted
00:33:17So I just stood there.
00:33:18because I saw that something
00:33:19It was moving.
00:33:20Then it was
00:33:21when he crossed quickly
00:33:22and went in
00:33:24because of that scratch.
00:33:25A disconcerting vision
00:33:27with identical characteristics
00:33:29to those described
00:33:30by the other witnesses
00:33:31but with one detail
00:33:33meaningless.
00:33:34That figure
00:33:35of white canvases
00:33:36traveled around
00:33:3850 meters
00:33:39in a flash
00:33:40and disappeared
00:33:41like swallowed
00:33:42through the air.
00:33:44And he left there
00:33:45and ran
00:33:46And off we go.
00:33:47Yes, yes, yes.
00:33:47He went into that canyon.
00:33:48But at full speed.
00:33:49I was surprised.
00:33:50At this speed
00:33:52running quite fast.
00:33:53It had to be a young person
00:33:55or a person
00:33:55that she was well prepared.
00:33:57To run well.
00:33:59During two cold nights
00:34:01We toured the town
00:34:02trying to find
00:34:03an explanation.
00:34:04However
00:34:05our cameras
00:34:06they must have scared away
00:34:07to the mysterious shadow
00:34:08which apparently
00:34:09He refused to stand up for himself.
00:34:11Is this a role-playing game?
00:34:13From an experiment
00:34:14to measure fear
00:34:15of a town?
00:34:17Of genuine penitents?
00:34:19Or is there something
00:34:20truly strange
00:34:21in these events?
00:34:23Will we ever know?
00:34:24What or who is hiding?
00:34:26after the appearances
00:34:27of this grotesque pantarruja?
00:34:42It must be said of course
00:34:43that the medieval site
00:34:44those narrow streets
00:34:46that darkness
00:34:46It's an ideal place
00:34:48so that
00:34:48man in disguise
00:34:50or authentic appearance
00:34:51the pantarruja
00:34:52do your thing.
00:34:53We are accompanied by
00:34:54in this program
00:34:55a dear friend
00:34:56person
00:34:57who has done a great deal of research
00:34:59in how the media
00:35:00communication
00:35:01they can generate fear
00:35:02how they experience
00:35:03even with that
00:35:03It's José Augusto
00:35:04Ventín Pereira
00:35:05tenured professor
00:35:06of the University
00:35:07Complutense University of Madrid
00:35:08teacher
00:35:08welcome
00:35:09good night
00:35:09hello good evening
00:35:10surprising news
00:35:11at least
00:35:12full 21st century
00:35:12I say it often.
00:35:13because I get excited
00:35:14with these things
00:35:15The year 2005 ends
00:35:16and an entire social community
00:35:18scared by a ghost
00:35:20that seems from another time
00:35:21Does this happen?
00:35:21Yes, it happens
00:35:22and also
00:35:23It's not new.
00:35:25because reality
00:35:27of those events
00:35:28It's in the culture
00:35:29ancestral
00:35:32next
00:35:33from Spain
00:35:35in my region
00:35:37in Galicia
00:35:38For example
00:35:39the Holy Company
00:35:40a true classic
00:35:41It's a classic
00:35:42in these elements
00:35:43and when
00:35:45someone was saying
00:35:47that was
00:35:48the Holy Company
00:35:49was generated
00:35:50a collective fear
00:35:51what's happening?
00:35:52well then
00:35:52that the media
00:35:53communication
00:35:54serve as
00:35:56drum
00:35:57like a box
00:35:58of resonance
00:35:58of those events
00:36:00and what before
00:36:00local
00:36:02now it becomes
00:36:03in an element
00:36:03more universal
00:36:04wider
00:36:06And it's going to be
00:36:07the journalist
00:36:09subject to interest
00:36:11certain
00:36:12the one who is going to give it to him
00:36:13the rhythm
00:36:14to that drum
00:36:15of resonance
00:36:16in a sense
00:36:16or in another
00:36:17It will give it more rhythm
00:36:17slower pace
00:36:18will interpret
00:36:19depending on what
00:36:20Well
00:36:21based on a series
00:36:22of interests
00:36:22that would need to be investigated
00:36:23perhaps the fact
00:36:24at the radio level
00:36:25which seems to be the medium
00:36:26that reaches the most people
00:36:27in these matters
00:36:28key in history
00:36:29how fear spreads
00:36:30it is precisely
00:36:31the work you have
00:36:32between the hands
00:36:33the invasion from Mars
00:36:34Orson Welles
00:36:35maybe a large audience
00:36:36young
00:36:37I don't remember exactly.
00:36:38What happened
00:36:39There are also many myths.
00:36:40what happened
00:36:40around that broadcast
00:36:41It was a great thing
00:36:43worthy of an absolute
00:36:44middle teacher
00:36:45but the demonstration
00:36:46also of power
00:36:46that the media have
00:36:47to spread panic
00:36:48Yeah
00:36:49panic
00:36:49joy
00:36:50or stimulate passions
00:36:53at levels
00:36:56uncontrollable
00:36:57in fact
00:36:59it's not
00:36:59It's not with the work
00:37:01by Orson Welles
00:37:02where
00:37:02it occurs
00:37:03in a way
00:37:06planned
00:37:07fear reactions
00:37:09here in Spain
00:37:10in this respect
00:37:11We are pioneers
00:37:12the general
00:37:13Queipo de Llano
00:37:16in the capture of Seville
00:37:17well he got
00:37:21neutralize the population
00:37:23with its transmissions
00:37:24and with his microphone
00:37:25walking
00:37:26that after achieving
00:37:29To take Seville
00:37:30continues to use
00:37:32the same technique
00:37:32scary
00:37:34both in Andalusia
00:37:36as in Extremadura
00:37:37retransmitting
00:37:40indirect executions
00:37:41retransmitting
00:37:42royal executions
00:37:43real
00:37:44and
00:37:46with the presence
00:37:47of the family
00:37:48who was crying
00:37:49that
00:37:49He begged for mercy
00:37:51therefore
00:37:52It generated terrible panic.
00:37:53and he got
00:37:56gain
00:37:59both Extremadura
00:38:00like Andalusia
00:38:01through
00:38:03not of the weapons
00:38:04but from fear
00:38:05we're going to
00:38:05Watch now
00:38:06that other genius
00:38:07that we were talking about
00:38:08Orson Welles
00:38:09images
00:38:10unforgettable
00:38:11also
00:38:11and sounds
00:38:12of a transmission
00:38:13Halloween
00:38:15year 1938
00:38:17and all of America
00:38:19it collapsed
00:38:20for an alleged
00:38:21alien invasion
00:38:22a story
00:38:23than by much
00:38:23Let it be heard
00:38:24It never ceases to amaze
00:38:53The Columbia Broadcasting
00:38:55The observatory in Chicago, Illinois,
00:38:57He observes that he observes several explosions
00:38:59of incandescent gas occurring
00:39:01at regular intervals on the planet Mars.
00:39:03The spectroscope indicates that the gas
00:39:05It is hydrogen and it is moving towards Earth
00:39:07with enormous speeds.
00:39:11I'm speaking from the roof
00:39:14of Broadcasting Building.
00:39:16I'm speaking from the roof
00:39:17of Broadcasting Building,
00:39:19New York City.
00:39:20The bells you hear are ringing
00:39:23to warn the people to evacuate
00:39:25the city as the Martians approach.
00:39:29We remember 1938,
00:39:31fear of what came from outside, of space,
00:39:33strange explosions on the surface
00:39:35from the red planet. From there, chaos.
00:39:37Studies were also conducted on that chaos,
00:39:39how people experienced it is not uncertain
00:39:41that there were people who were on the verge of ending his life.
00:39:43And there's no need for suicide.
00:39:44Suicides related to this issue.
00:39:45Yes, yes, out of fear, out of terror.
00:39:49Such psychosis was provoked
00:39:51that people reacted
00:39:52in the form
00:39:55that some people react.
00:39:56When he sees something he is unable to control,
00:39:59Well, there are people who
00:40:01chooses suicide.
00:40:02Let's look at the next story
00:40:03from our colleague Francisco,
00:40:05because, curiously,
00:40:06This happens in Albuquerque,
00:40:08at the research level,
00:40:10occurs in a place
00:40:11marked by mystery previously.
00:40:12And that's because Extremadura,
00:40:13both provinces,
00:40:14Cáceres and Badajoz,
00:40:15have always been inclined
00:40:16to this type of appearance.
00:40:18Some of them motivated
00:40:19military research,
00:40:20as we shall see,
00:40:21and others ended
00:40:22in the deepest
00:40:23of the mysteries.
00:40:24People in costumes,
00:40:25We repeat,
00:40:26strange acts
00:40:27or extraordinary figures.
00:40:30Of course,
00:40:31Extremadura is a place
00:40:31where the footprint
00:40:32of the strange
00:40:33has always been present.
00:40:38Although the adventures
00:40:39of the Pantaruja
00:40:40they seem to have
00:40:40a physical origin
00:40:41and natural,
00:40:42these lands of Extremadura
00:40:44They are the place
00:40:44where the largest number
00:40:45of mysterious apparitions
00:40:47have occurred
00:40:48during the last few decades.
00:40:50The road
00:40:51that connects Alburquerque
00:40:52and Badajoz
00:40:52is the place
00:40:53where they claim
00:40:54that for years
00:40:55another mysterious figure
00:40:56It frightens drivers.
00:40:59It happened in June
00:41:01from the year 2000
00:41:03another of the events
00:41:05that border on the absurd
00:41:06and that have a lot to do with it
00:41:08with appearances
00:41:09on roads.
00:41:12In that month
00:41:14some girls
00:41:15who came from Albuquerque
00:41:17they were heading
00:41:17to your home
00:41:18in Badajoz
00:41:19They picked up a person
00:41:21that was
00:41:22in this same place
00:41:24and arriving
00:41:25to a curve
00:41:26that there's a little more
00:41:27ahead of this road
00:41:28this person
00:41:30he told them inside the vehicle
00:41:31be careful
00:41:32with that curve
00:41:33because that's where it was
00:41:34where I killed myself.
00:41:39Then
00:41:41the cold
00:41:42it invaded them from within
00:41:43and automatically
00:41:45they looked
00:41:45the two
00:41:46backwards
00:41:47to ask him
00:41:48something to the individual
00:41:49and then
00:41:50they realized
00:41:51that there was no
00:41:52no one inside the vehicle.
00:41:55It is about
00:41:55from the same point
00:41:56where recently
00:41:57have been able
00:41:58filming strange luminaries
00:41:59soaring through the skies.
00:42:01just a few kilometers away
00:42:02within the perimeter
00:42:03from the military base
00:42:04It is also remembered
00:42:06another mysterious story
00:42:07that some baptized
00:42:08as
00:42:09the Portuguese woman.
00:42:10The Portuguese woman
00:42:11specifically
00:42:12It is about
00:42:13of a figure
00:42:14evanescent
00:42:16preferably
00:42:17women
00:42:17based on the testimonies
00:42:18that have been collected
00:42:19with a dress
00:42:22white
00:42:22as if it were
00:42:24a dress
00:42:25bridal
00:42:25that appeared
00:42:27above all
00:42:29in the early hours of the morning
00:42:30night
00:42:31that's when
00:42:32He has been seen
00:42:33appear on this road
00:42:34from this side
00:42:35towards the other.
00:42:37Even
00:42:38have been given
00:42:38cases
00:42:40of soldiers
00:42:41that
00:42:42providing service
00:42:43guard post
00:42:44have seen
00:42:45to this appearance
00:42:46cross
00:42:47the wall
00:42:48from the base
00:42:48but
00:42:50fair
00:42:51after
00:42:51to cross
00:42:52the wall
00:42:53disappear
00:42:53in front of
00:42:54from her eyes.
00:42:57Neither
00:42:58the province
00:42:58from Cáceres
00:42:59he is saved
00:42:59of fear
00:43:00to this type
00:43:00of appearances.
00:43:01A strange
00:43:02figure
00:43:03mourning
00:43:03he strolled
00:43:04for this
00:43:04peaceful
00:43:05region
00:43:05filling
00:43:06terrifying
00:43:06to the neighborhood.
00:43:07Occurred
00:43:08in autumn
00:43:08of 1983
00:43:10on this street
00:43:11from Saucedilla
00:43:11when Maria del Carmen
00:43:12Ramos
00:43:13was heading
00:43:13towards his house
00:43:14It was getting dark
00:43:15and was able to see
00:43:17a strange figure
00:43:17in principle
00:43:18He didn't define it well
00:43:19that was approaching
00:43:20on the other side of the street
00:43:21of the avenue.
00:43:22Upon arrival
00:43:23at this point
00:43:23to this corner
00:43:24the figure
00:43:25crossed
00:43:25and then
00:43:26Yes, she was able to observe her
00:43:27perfectly.
00:43:27It was a being
00:43:28three meters
00:43:29height
00:43:30with a garment
00:43:31black
00:43:32cassock
00:43:33the figure
00:43:34appeared to stop
00:43:35one moment
00:43:36but immediately
00:43:36crossed
00:43:37and went in
00:43:38on this street.
00:43:39One of the things
00:43:40that called the most
00:43:41attention
00:43:41to Maria del Carmen
00:43:42is that the figure
00:43:43It had no feet
00:43:44rather
00:43:45was flying over
00:43:46or was
00:43:47at ground level
00:43:47its skirts
00:43:49they were moving
00:43:49as if I had
00:43:50a fan
00:43:51oriented
00:43:51up
00:43:52and the girl
00:43:53that remained
00:43:53on the corner
00:43:54covered him
00:43:54the vision
00:43:55street
00:43:55immediately
00:43:56that the figure
00:43:57crossed
00:43:57She peeked out
00:43:58his surprise
00:43:59was that the figure
00:44:00He was no longer there
00:44:01nevertheless
00:44:02and with a daring
00:44:03of courage
00:44:04it reached
00:44:05that
00:44:06alley
00:44:07which is an alley
00:44:08No Exit
00:44:08but to be sure
00:44:09and saw that he wasn't there
00:44:10there
00:44:10Now he was scared
00:44:11and left
00:44:12in a hurry
00:44:13the events
00:44:15that are now produced
00:44:15in Albuquerque
00:44:16They are not something new
00:44:18for years
00:44:19various regions
00:44:20Extremaduran
00:44:21have been visited
00:44:22because of this type
00:44:22of horrors
00:44:23worthy of another
00:44:24distant past
00:44:25the witnesses
00:44:27of all conditions
00:44:28social
00:44:28they simply state
00:44:30what they have seen
00:44:30They don't lie
00:44:32nor do they fable
00:44:32the great enigma
00:44:34therefore
00:44:35It remains
00:44:36nature itself
00:44:37of these appearances
00:44:38the mystery
00:44:40whose is
00:44:40behind
00:44:41of these visions
00:44:42that any night
00:44:43they can come out
00:44:44at a pace
00:44:45despite
00:44:46we don't create
00:44:47in them
00:44:57fear
00:44:58It is very powerful
00:44:59with it you can
00:45:00modify behavior
00:45:01of the human being
00:45:02something like that, exactly.
00:45:03It should have happened
00:45:04not too long ago
00:45:05in Seville
00:45:05early morning
00:45:06of 2000
00:45:06Do you remember?
00:45:07They remember perfectly
00:45:08these images
00:45:09which we will now see
00:45:10stampedes
00:45:11in the middle of the street
00:45:12the Nazarenes
00:45:13that they didn't know
00:45:13to do
00:45:14There was talk of hooded figures
00:45:15of a person
00:45:15with a large knife
00:45:16different things were discussed
00:45:17coordinated groups
00:45:18to experiment
00:45:20with that morbid thing
00:45:21What is fear?
00:45:21We asked him
00:45:23to a person
00:45:24that was broadcasting
00:45:25the event
00:45:25our colleague
00:45:26of the chain
00:45:26to be in Seville
00:45:27Javier Márquez
00:45:28he still
00:45:28five years later
00:45:30He can't explain it
00:45:34around five
00:45:35a.m.
00:45:36that early morning
00:45:36from the year 2000
00:45:37began to be produced
00:45:38racing
00:45:39and it was generated
00:45:40panic
00:45:41among all people
00:45:41that there was
00:45:42through the streets
00:45:43from the center
00:45:43from Seville
00:45:44some races
00:45:45that were prolonged
00:45:46in time
00:45:46about 20 minutes
00:45:47that were generated
00:45:49simultaneously
00:45:50at various points
00:45:51from the center
00:45:51of the city
00:45:52And what is clear
00:45:53the thing is
00:45:54who caused
00:45:55the beginning
00:45:56of those races
00:45:57I knew very well
00:45:57what I was doing
00:45:58they could be heard
00:45:59lots of noise
00:45:59many sounds
00:46:01strangers
00:46:01some thought
00:46:03which were gunshots
00:46:05thing that
00:46:06It was always ruled out
00:46:08even the delegate
00:46:09citizen security
00:46:10back then
00:46:11he said that he had
00:46:11exploded a pipe
00:46:12on a street
00:46:13close to the center
00:46:14but also
00:46:15It was ruled out
00:46:16some were talking
00:46:18that there had
00:46:18a bull escaped
00:46:19of the square
00:46:20of the workshop
00:46:21in the city
00:46:22hysteria was generated
00:46:23that there were many people
00:46:24who became
00:46:25to their homes
00:46:26that abandoned
00:46:26your place
00:46:29where they were
00:46:29to see the brotherhoods
00:46:31and they went back home
00:46:32They returned home
00:46:33because they had
00:46:35genuine fear
00:46:36from being on the street
00:46:37and that there was
00:46:38well, close
00:46:39200 people
00:46:40that had to be
00:46:41attended
00:46:41or by attacks of hysteria
00:46:43or out of panic
00:46:44or due to injuries
00:46:45caused by those races
00:46:46People started running
00:46:47but I didn't know
00:46:48when it was about to end
00:46:49running
00:46:53Many things happened
00:46:54never told
00:46:55on those streets
00:46:57from the center of Seville
00:46:57early morning of 2000
00:46:59one of the protagonists
00:47:00because I was there
00:47:01He was our colleague
00:47:02of Millennium 3
00:47:03from the other mystery ship
00:47:04Carlos Cala
00:47:05and he even told us
00:47:06from that moment
00:47:07due to lack of knowledge
00:47:09of what really happened
00:47:09exists today in Seville
00:47:11a device
00:47:12special security
00:47:16People were walking through the streets
00:47:18I was running
00:47:18It happened nearby.
00:47:20very close
00:47:21of what it is
00:47:22the center
00:47:23Seville city centre
00:47:23where they pass
00:47:24all the brotherhoods
00:47:25And I saw rivers of people
00:47:27running through the streets
00:47:28that came out transversely
00:47:30to the main
00:47:31And I asked
00:47:33what's happening
00:47:33what's happening
00:47:34and the people
00:47:35running nonstop
00:47:35said
00:47:36I don't know
00:47:37I don't know
00:47:37I don't know
00:47:38But he kept running
00:47:38and maybe
00:47:39Who told you?
00:47:40I don't know
00:47:40I was already there
00:47:41about 20 meters away from you
00:47:42the following year
00:47:43It was quite noticeable
00:47:45what had happened
00:47:46in the year 2000
00:47:46and it showed
00:47:47because it wasn't difficult
00:47:49see next to the
00:47:51at the steps
00:47:51to the thrones
00:47:52Where are they?
00:47:52the images
00:47:53Holy Week
00:47:54or at the beginning
00:47:56of the parade
00:47:57or to mediation
00:47:59in the end
00:47:59everywhere
00:48:00There was a noticeable increased police presence.
00:48:02There was a plan
00:48:03also
00:48:04security
00:48:05quite programmed
00:48:06and very well thought out
00:48:07precisely to avoid
00:48:09that these things
00:48:09could be repeated
00:48:11again
00:48:11and well
00:48:12people
00:48:12the truth is that
00:48:13behaved
00:48:14Well, like every year
00:48:15It seems that in the year 2001
00:48:17had already forgotten
00:48:18the year 2000
00:48:18and he didn't return
00:48:20to talk about the topic
00:48:23without a doubt
00:48:24Professor Ventín Pereira
00:48:25this matter
00:48:26from Badajoz
00:48:27of the pantaruja
00:48:27that may be the reason
00:48:29of future research
00:48:30about fear
00:48:30and how it affects us
00:48:31of course
00:48:33I think that
00:48:34in an analysis
00:48:36of history
00:48:37of the contents
00:48:38of the media
00:48:39communication
00:48:41we will find
00:48:42many pantarujas
00:48:44many
00:48:46pantaruja
00:48:46were the first
00:48:49data
00:48:50that came out
00:48:51in the press
00:48:51about UFOs
00:48:52pantarujas
00:48:53were
00:48:53at the time
00:48:55the boogeyman
00:48:57fat extractor
00:48:59the werewolf
00:49:00pantarujas
00:49:02There are
00:49:03constantly
00:49:04nails
00:49:04with foundations
00:49:07real
00:49:09and others
00:49:09completely
00:49:10created
00:49:12and fictitious
00:49:13to get
00:49:16an effect
00:49:18selling
00:49:18of newspapers
00:49:19or get
00:49:20a discredit
00:49:22of the content
00:49:24of those news
00:49:25or a promotion
00:49:26of those news
00:49:28teacher
00:49:29thanks a lot
00:49:29Thank you for your visit
00:49:30to fourth millennium
00:49:31Let it not be the last one
00:49:31because of course
00:49:32we have seen with different eyes
00:49:34phenomena
00:49:34that might worry us
00:49:35but that sometimes
00:49:36They have an explosion
00:49:37very special
00:49:38with the participation
00:49:39of that element
00:49:39now indivisible
00:49:41of society
00:49:41which are the media
00:49:42communication
00:49:42of which
00:49:43we belong
00:49:43Thank you very much, professor.
00:49:46by the way
00:49:47There are images
00:49:47that are worthwhile
00:49:48remember again
00:49:49images that follow
00:49:51without ending
00:49:52to a mystery
00:49:52I keep wondering
00:49:54And I'll leave the matter there.
00:49:55perhaps some viewers
00:49:56may answer someday
00:49:57What happened in Seville?
00:49:59that early morning
00:50:00from the year 2000?
00:50:16during this week
00:50:17that we just left behind
00:50:18despite
00:50:19logically
00:50:20has been presided over
00:50:21for the celebrations
00:50:22Christmas
00:50:22and the change of year
00:50:23They have also passed
00:50:24worthy things
00:50:25of being in our
00:50:25private news report
00:50:27things that have to do with
00:50:28For example
00:50:28with prehistory
00:50:29such unique names
00:50:30and unknown
00:50:31like a titanosaur
00:50:33a team of paleontologists
00:50:35has found
00:50:36to the northwest
00:50:37from Patagonia
00:50:38a strange specimen
00:50:39over 10 meters long
00:50:41whom they have called
00:50:42titanosaur
00:50:43the animal is
00:50:44in an exceptional state
00:50:45preservation
00:50:46He keeps all his fingers
00:50:48and claws
00:50:48the tail
00:50:49the ribs
00:50:50and part of the waist
00:50:51And that's despite what he lived through.
00:50:5271 million years ago
00:50:54the paleontologist
00:50:55Juan Porfiri
00:50:56He explains
00:50:57What was this dinosaur like?
00:50:58and their behavior
00:51:03It's a dinosaur
00:51:05of these dinosaurs
00:51:06quadrupeds
00:51:06long neck
00:51:07long-tailed
00:51:08and that is
00:51:09in a geological formation
00:51:10which is called
00:51:11Allen training
00:51:12that is, a formation
00:51:13one of the last
00:51:15formations
00:51:15that exist
00:51:16in the Cretaceous period
00:51:18and the importance
00:51:20of the material
00:51:21besides how good
00:51:22preserved that is
00:51:23the thing is
00:51:24They know each other
00:51:25few dinosaurs
00:51:26of that formation
00:51:27in the province
00:51:27from Neuquén
00:51:30now we travel
00:51:31some more
00:51:31north
00:51:32in American geography
00:51:33and we stayed
00:51:34in Mexico
00:51:34They speak there
00:51:35of exorcisms
00:51:37for more
00:51:3724 years old
00:51:38the priest
00:51:39Castro Simón
00:51:40is performing
00:51:41in a parish
00:51:42Mexican
00:51:42mass exorcisms
00:51:43It's already very common
00:51:45see how dozens
00:51:46of people
00:51:46suffer seizures
00:51:47shouting
00:51:48vomiting
00:51:48and curses
00:51:49that mix
00:51:50with the prayers
00:51:51of the priest
00:51:52many of these people
00:51:53They believe they were
00:51:54consecrated to the devil
00:51:55even before birth
00:51:57terrifying screams
00:51:59which I hope they don't arrive
00:52:00so far
00:52:00as our next
00:52:01focus
00:52:02We are talking about one of the planets
00:52:03more enigmatic
00:52:03of the solar system
00:52:04We're talking about Uranus.
00:52:05the space telescope
00:52:07Hubble
00:52:08has photographed
00:52:09two new rings
00:52:10and two moons
00:52:11on Uranus
00:52:12the most surprising thing
00:52:13is that one of them
00:52:14It has a diameter
00:52:15twice as large
00:52:16to the rest
00:52:17of known rings
00:52:18and that the orbits
00:52:19of this planet
00:52:19have changed
00:52:20during the last decade
00:52:21This means
00:52:22that the planet
00:52:23It has a system
00:52:24dynamic
00:52:25of moons and rings
00:52:25variable
00:52:26and possibly
00:52:28unstable
00:52:28space
00:52:29it keeps throwing
00:52:30surprises
00:52:31but also
00:52:32the mainland
00:52:32has some reserved
00:52:33for all of us
00:52:34this story
00:52:35It seems like fiction
00:52:36some time ago
00:52:37It would be fiction
00:52:37a genetic bank
00:52:39to preserve
00:52:40some species
00:52:41of felines
00:52:41the one who has taken
00:52:42this initiative
00:52:43revolutionary
00:52:44It's the zoo
00:52:46from Buenos Aires
00:52:47for that
00:52:48have created
00:52:48a bank
00:52:48of genetic resources
00:52:49where they are stored
00:52:5010 species of felines
00:52:51who live in South America
00:52:53the genetics bank
00:52:54will store inside
00:52:55from their containers
00:52:56of liquid nitrogen
00:52:57at 196 degrees
00:52:59below zero
00:52:59semen samples
00:53:00eggs
00:53:01hair and tissue
00:53:02of these felines
00:53:03so that
00:53:03can be preserved
00:53:05for a long time
00:53:06a long time
00:53:07It's the one they wear
00:53:07African cultures
00:53:08worshipping strange gods
00:53:09a long time
00:53:10is the one that the Bocor
00:53:11or black witches
00:53:12They've been digging up people.
00:53:13a long time
00:53:14It's the one that gets taken
00:53:15talking about the zombie enigma
00:53:16without knowing if this is real
00:53:17or not
00:53:18some reporters
00:53:19who will be here
00:53:20in fourth millennium
00:53:20They went with their cameras
00:53:22to see it
00:53:22and to tell the tale
00:53:24the use
00:53:26of slaves
00:53:26zombified
00:53:27by witches
00:53:28that they have taken them out
00:53:29from the tomb
00:53:30after having them
00:53:31induced a death
00:53:32apparent
00:53:32for which they were
00:53:33buried alive
00:53:34They are the living dead
00:53:37of a horrible reality
00:53:38which is still practiced
00:53:40and that exceeds
00:53:41any fiction
00:53:57from the tomb
00:54:21Let me tell you this story. It impressed me greatly.
00:54:24It was written by Harvard botanist and biologist Webb Davis, and he called it the zombie enigma.
00:54:30He became interested in the story of a black man from Haiti named Clervius Nercis.
00:54:36He died and was buried in 1962.
00:54:39He even published his death certificate.
00:54:41The curious thing about this story is that Clervius Nercis himself reappears 18 years later as a lobotomized man.
00:54:47believing himself to be a zombie, believing he was living in hell inside a vast plantation dominated by a bocor or black sorcerer.
00:54:54Webb Davis and subsequently several works thus discovered, in the middle of the 20th century, the history of slaves and the dead
00:55:00living.
00:55:01Witches who exhumed people who had previously been hypnotized or put into a cataleptic state,
00:55:09in a state of apparent death, after ingesting a substance called zombie powder.
00:55:13Then they were dug up and forced to live in that world of darkness.
00:55:17A harrowing story.
00:55:19A story usually forbidden to journalists.
00:55:22But here we'll have amazing, first-hand images.
00:55:26I invite you to explore the eerie world of the living dead on Cuarto Milenio.
00:55:31Zombies.
00:55:34In the midst of the digital and technological age, strange beliefs still persist in remote and dark spaces of our planet.
00:55:43Haiti, the poorest country in the world, and certain enclaves in sub-Saharan Africa,
00:55:48These are still places where the shadows of authentic voodoo roam freely.
00:55:55There, the terror of voodoo and beings of darkness is a latent reality.
00:56:00In many homes, the deceased are still buried near the entrance.
00:56:04so that the diabolical Bokor sorcerers do not dig up the dead in the middle of the night and practice their witchcraft on them
00:56:11posthumous.
00:56:12In these types of rituals, always forbidden to journalists or travelers,
00:56:16The participants are deeply knowledgeable about black magic,
00:56:20and they converse or believe they are possessed by spiritual entities.
00:56:24They are capable of speaking with a voice that is not their own,
00:56:27devour live animals, swallow crystals without feeling pain,
00:56:31or to inflict deep wounds upon themselves at the command of those beings from beyond.
00:56:41The real zombie enigma begins in the 1970s,
00:56:45when various university botanists and anthropologists discover an even more sinister reality.
00:56:51The use of zombified slaves by sorcerers,
00:56:55who have been taken from the grave after having been induced into apparent death,
00:56:59for which they were buried alive.
00:57:02They are the living dead of a horrific reality,
00:57:05which is still practiced and surpasses any fiction.
00:57:09Come on! Come on! Come on! Come on!
00:57:15Let's go! Let's go! Let's go!
00:57:29Living dead, black witches, unearthed, zombie dust, what is all this?
00:57:33We have two exceptional friends, two people who have experienced it firsthand.
00:57:39that feeling of unease you get when you're recording images like the ones you've seen.
00:57:43Shamanic world, world of witchcraft.
00:57:46They are Juan José Revenga, a documentary producer,
00:57:49director of a fundamental series, Mythical America.
00:57:51Welcome to Cuarto Milenio.
00:57:52Good evening, Iker. Thank you very much.
00:57:54And José Manuel Novoa, also a dear friend,
00:57:56director of documentaries at Explora Films.
00:57:58Good evening, welcome.
00:57:59Good evening, Iker.
00:58:00Hey, this isn't fiction. You've experienced it firsthand.
00:58:04Have you seen any zombies?
00:58:06Zombies, of course they exist. That's the first thing to say.
00:58:10It's not the zombie from the movies or what we're used to seeing,
00:58:13The zombie that eats others, that's not it.
00:58:15But the zombie exists, it really does.
00:58:17The zombie is created by a drug, a drug prepared by the bocor, the dark sorcerer.
00:58:22With that, they manage to poison a person,
00:58:25a person is left with two heartbeats per minute.
00:58:27Would that be zombie dust?
00:58:29Zombie dust, exactly.
00:58:30How do they operate? How do they get someone buried alive?
00:58:32It could be zombie dust, or someone could blow it on you, or you could step on it.
00:58:35We're talking about a poison that is about 300,000 times more potent than cocaine.
00:58:40Simply step on it with your bare foot for it to penetrate your skin and be inside you.
00:58:44That leaves you in a death-like state with two heartbeats per minute,
00:58:48The eyes do not respond, the breath does not respond.
00:58:51Any doctor certifies death.
00:58:53They bury you in that state, but of course, you're alive.
00:58:58You don't consume any oxygen.
00:59:00You can live for a week in a coffin with the oxygen inside it.
00:59:03That's when the sorcerer, the bocor, appears again.
00:59:06They pull him out of the coffin with some secret herbal rubs, managing to wake him up.
00:59:10But of course, you haven't had oxygen in your brain.
00:59:12And you're in a state where you're completely out of it.
00:59:15That's a zombie, a person who has no free will.
00:59:18My God.
00:59:19You would have met me somewhere too.
00:59:21Yes, yes, in Haiti.
00:59:22In Haiti.
00:59:23The place, without a doubt, the most likely, the most sordid.
00:59:25You told me on one occasion, in a previous interview we had,
00:59:30which is a place where one is always uneasy.
00:59:32Yes, there is a tremendous subversion towards whiteness.
00:59:37And especially if you touch on these topics, which are an absolute taboo for foreigners.
00:59:42It must be said that zombification is a punishment, it is the ultimate punishment within the traditional law of voodoo.
00:59:50The ultimate penalty is not the death penalty, but zombification.
00:59:54When someone is a wrongdoer, they have committed crimes, murders,
01:00:00The lacú, the monastery, meets and decides to sentence this person to zombification.
01:00:07Then they appoint an executioner, who is the one who goes with the body to the cemeteries.
01:00:12And he begins to prepare, as Revenga said, the zombie powder.
01:00:17It is now known that, apart from many magical and dubious components,
01:00:24The main one is tetrodoxin, which they extract from the backbone of the pufferfish.
01:00:30And indeed this is the element that seems to cause this state of deep catalepsy,
01:00:37where, well, this person will be buried and then, as Juan José explained,
01:00:41for he is rescued from the tomb.
01:00:43But deep down, what they've done is a kind of brutal lobotomy.
01:00:47And then they have him to work in the fields, as a servant or something like that.
01:00:52Did you see them too then?
01:00:53I had a tremendous encounter, because we were in Berré, in the Artibonite area,
01:01:00which is one of the areas, they say, where magic is most powerful.
01:01:05There in Haiti we were with an ungan, a priest, and voodoo,
01:01:09And we knew he had zombies, right?
01:01:12Something happened...
01:01:13He had zombies like someone who has pets or slaves.
01:01:16And we were filming for hours, right?
01:01:17By three in the morning, we had already filmed practically everything that could be filmed there.
01:01:22And we were already a bit on our own.
01:01:25And I went around the back of the house, where there was a patio with some women preparing coffee,
01:01:31In large drums, right?
01:01:33And I entered through a back door of the house.
01:01:37I started to hear moans from someone who was crying.
01:01:42So, well, like what happens to us journalists,
01:01:46that we always end up walking a little into the lion's den,
01:01:49So I went down a corridor; there was a dim light.
01:01:52and a half-open door at the end.
01:01:55And then I approached.
01:01:57And just as I stood in front of the door,
01:02:00A man from inside opens the door and sees me.
01:02:03And it was an image that has stayed with me, of course.
01:02:07because the deceased was there.
01:02:10There was a young girl at their feet crying,
01:02:13But the most striking image was that there was an elderly gentleman.
01:02:17with a syringe, then, like for horses,
01:02:22injecting a yellowish liquid into the corpse.
01:02:27There was terror there, and well, we'll see what happens here.
01:02:31And he didn't exactly understand what he had seen either.
01:02:35Later I was traveling with a Haitian journalist,
01:02:39who was also a Voodoo gant,
01:02:41And I told him, this happened to me, what this is and so on.
01:02:44And I think that when we've talked about zombification on a traditional level,
01:02:48But there are also people who can pay a bocó
01:02:51so that it harms a third person.
01:02:53And then, when a death occurs unexpectedly in a family,
01:02:59Well, people are always afraid that their father, their brother...
01:03:03Let the witch doctor take him away.
01:03:04...they may have been caught in a zombification.
01:03:08And then, to make sure that the mouth won't be able to rescue him from the grave,
01:03:13They inject strychnine into the corpse to poison and actually kill it.
01:03:17This is amazing, isn't it?
01:03:18But this is a reality that demonstrates horror and fear
01:03:22in which people live in Haiti because of this issue of the living dead.
01:03:26And we'll give you one more piece of information, José Manuel,
01:03:27a fact that adds to this grim story that is being lived today in the 21st century.
01:03:32The article, if I'm not mistaken, Juanjo Revenga, 246 of the Haitian penal law,
01:03:37He still condemns the crime of zombification.
01:03:41It's there, it's not something made up.
01:03:43We're talking about today,
01:03:44Attempting to take away a person's will is still punishable.
01:03:47by any means, any kind of means, poisons or whatever,
01:03:51It is still punished as attempted murder.
01:03:54That's the case today.
01:03:55So something does exist, right?
01:03:57Something is there.
01:03:58This is still working.
01:03:59As José Manuel said, they bury them.
01:04:01He often buries people with their heads cut off.
01:04:03or they bury them face down, in case they call the bocor,
01:04:05that they dig downwards and not upwards.
01:04:06Is it true that in Haiti many people bury their dead
01:04:09at the front door of the house to keep them under control
01:04:11And that the black sorcerer doesn't arrive at night?
01:04:12At the door below the houses, on the porches of the houses below,
01:04:16so that it cannot open.
01:04:16Because, of course, the sorcerer always, the bocor,
01:04:18who is the dark voodoo sorcerer,
01:04:20It has to do with meat.
01:04:21It has to do with paraphernalia,
01:04:23It's not just a matter of arriving and starting to dig.
01:04:25It is something prepared, something that is an ancient ritual.
01:04:28We're talking about voodoo.
01:04:28Voodoo is the oldest religion in the world.
01:04:30It is 7,000 years old.
01:04:32When we talk about Catholicism, we're talking about 2,000 years.
01:04:34Or Islam has 1,500.
01:04:36There has been plenty of time to prepare this.
01:04:38They were a people who came from the Caribbean as slaves
01:04:40And that's where he was attacked, he was hurt,
01:04:44They worked as slaves and voodoo was corrupted.
01:04:46They turned a religion that was theirs into something of revenge.
01:04:50The revenge was directed at the white man.
01:04:52That was what gave them power.
01:04:52A demonic weapon, the class.
01:04:54It was power.
01:04:55There they had the power of revenge.
01:04:57The strangest thing is that the fear of being buried alive
01:05:00It is not unique to Itío,
01:05:02from some points in Central Africa.
01:05:05Until not so long ago, in the 19th century,
01:05:07In Germany there were the famous Morgenhausen,
01:05:09where hundreds of coffins with people inside,
01:05:12with the lid open,
01:05:13They were still there waiting for someone to make a move.
01:05:16because nobody knew exactly
01:05:17when real death arrived.
01:05:19There were no means to determine the exact time of death.
01:05:22And many people, in France and in Spain,
01:05:23There was genuine fear of being buried alive,
01:05:26They even put up small banner devices
01:05:29that were activated right in the cemetery
01:05:31saying, here I am, they have buried me alive.
01:05:33Catalepsy is still a world unto itself.
01:05:34hanging by a very thin thread.
01:05:37Today there are indeed techniques
01:05:39to know exactly when someone is dead,
01:05:42but until a long time ago
01:05:43Everything was done by guesswork.
01:05:45Medicine continues to investigate this frontier between two shores.
01:05:49That death that is not quite death.
01:05:51Catalepsy.
01:05:55The initial symptoms with which it manifests
01:06:00It is accompanied by a sensation of numbness or paresthesia.
01:06:02around the mouth, lips, tongue,
01:06:05followed by a feeling of dizziness or vertigo.
01:06:09They appear a little later
01:06:11the tingling sensation,
01:06:13paresthesias are more widespread.
01:06:15There may be difficulty walking,
01:06:19speech difficulty,
01:06:20There may also be tachycardia, hypotension
01:06:25and the most severe manifestation
01:06:27It is a paralysis of the respiratory muscles,
01:06:30which is why people can die
01:06:34due to respiratory failure.
01:06:36In the event of deaths
01:06:38They occur mainly in the first 24 hours.
01:06:44Juan José Revenga
01:06:46He is a person who, along with José Manuel Novoa
01:06:48They have traveled through areas that are truly forbidden.
01:06:51of voodoo, shamanism, zombification,
01:06:54the rituals of black magic
01:06:55and they have brought back spectacular images.
01:06:58There are some that coincide in both.
01:07:00which are rituals where a kind of scarecrow
01:07:04It burns, it catches fire,
01:07:05There is a person inside
01:07:06And I don't know if she was burned alive.
01:07:07But very strange things happen
01:07:09As we will see in these amazing images.
01:07:12Have you experienced it? Have you filmed it?
01:07:13Are those tricks to shock the journalist?
01:07:15These are things that truly cannot be explained today.
01:07:19that do not fall within our coordinates?
01:07:20What the hell is this?
01:07:21In all these things there is always preparation, falsehood,
01:07:25In fact, 90% of these cases exist.
01:07:27They are lies, they are staged.
01:07:29But there is an inexplicable 10%.
01:07:31And in this case, I think we're between
01:07:33a portion of that 10%.
01:07:36Yes, this straw thing is in southern Benin
01:07:39It is a ceremony called Saint Beto
01:07:41Saint Beth
01:07:42where Buddhists go out into the village
01:07:45to demonstrate the magic
01:07:47because not everyone knows, only the initiated
01:07:51They know the secrets of Buduno
01:07:53And then within this we were there
01:07:56This was in 1991
01:07:58we were filming
01:08:00And as you can see, now some piles of straw like this are coming out.
01:08:05that are moving
01:08:07They pick one up and maybe there's a bottle.
01:08:08There's someone inside, always there
01:08:09There's supposed to be someone inside.
01:08:11Then they lift it up and what remains is a snake.
01:08:14anything remains
01:08:15Well, you suppose that maybe
01:08:16It could even be a child who is there
01:08:17But in the end, at the end of this ceremony
01:08:21Well, a lot of these arrived in the center of the square
01:08:24They poured diesel into it
01:08:25and they started to burn it
01:08:27And well, as you can see, there's quite a big fire.
01:08:31And that thing starts to move to the rhythm of the drumbeat.
01:08:34and there couldn't be anyone inside.
01:08:36And well, it moves, it moves, it moves
01:08:37until only ashes remain
01:08:39that keep moving to the rhythm of the drum
01:08:41And finally, well, they take it away.
01:08:43It seems there's nothing there.
01:08:44We were watching
01:08:45But anyway, let's see...
01:08:47Well, those are rare things.
01:08:49I know you're a skeptic
01:08:50I am a skeptic
01:08:51And what is that?
01:08:52Well, I don't know.
01:08:52I haven't found an explanation for this.
01:08:54why it was moving
01:08:56And also keep in mind
01:08:57that we weren't even close to a city
01:08:59who were people very involved in the countryside
01:09:00a village that didn't even know
01:09:02that we were going to arrive
01:09:04In other words, well
01:09:05Well, they're one of those mysteries.
01:09:07as Juan José says
01:09:08that 10% that you always have left there
01:09:11that you don't...
01:09:11your Cartesian mindset
01:09:13because it doesn't allow you to
01:09:14give the explanation
01:09:16and logically then
01:09:17It makes you feel somewhat uneasy.
01:09:19How could we not?
01:09:20Juanjo, they even blew zombie dust on you.
01:09:22a bocor, you had an encounter with him
01:09:24and he even blew on you
01:09:25which must be the most lethal form
01:09:27No?
01:09:27have someone blow in your face
01:09:28that amount of oxygen
01:09:30I think it must be lethal
01:09:31just a drop of this
01:09:33This happened in the mountains of Haiti
01:09:36only
01:09:36It's the only way to search
01:09:38these real things
01:09:39No?
01:09:40taking into account that Haiti
01:09:41It's a problem
01:09:42traveling and searching for voodoo
01:09:43It's something that's hidden
01:09:45that doesn't let you
01:09:45The police allow it
01:09:46The witches won't allow it.
01:09:47Nobody allows it
01:09:48moving around Haiti looking for voodoo
01:09:50The one who asks about that
01:09:52It's already been indicated
01:09:52No?
01:09:52It's something they don't want.
01:09:54Because it's real
01:09:54in everything that contains lies
01:09:56or things like that
01:09:56no problem
01:09:57They take you, he's a tourist
01:09:58They charge you and nothing happens
01:09:59But when we're talking
01:10:00about serious things
01:10:00of a real voodoo
01:10:01We are talking about a religion
01:10:03from the deepest
01:10:04and the darkest
01:10:04of a religion also
01:10:06That is forbidden
01:10:07That can't be touched
01:10:08but for no one
01:10:09he was traveling alone
01:10:10with the intention
01:10:12to seek comfort
01:10:13from seeing the zombie dust
01:10:14I did it
01:10:15after traveling
01:10:16through the mountains
01:10:16I manage to get him to take me
01:10:17a gentleman
01:10:18one night at a temple
01:10:19to a comfort
01:10:19He opens the door for me.
01:10:21a man with a
01:10:22shirtless
01:10:23around 40 years old
01:10:24sour-faced
01:10:25Everything was dark
01:10:26and we started talking
01:10:27among the French evil
01:10:29of Haitian
01:10:29and well
01:10:30I was able to understand him
01:10:31that zombie dust
01:10:32It was his
01:10:33and there was nothing
01:10:34What is zombie dust like?
01:10:35zombie dust
01:10:35Let's see
01:10:36like talcum powder
01:10:38with red tips
01:10:39That's all I could do
01:10:40which gave me time
01:10:41let's see
01:10:41I already asked him
01:10:43and I told him
01:10:43Look
01:10:43The only thing I want
01:10:44It's seeing zombie dust
01:10:45And if that exists
01:10:46Or that's fiction
01:10:48he went behind
01:10:49of a curtain
01:10:50from a blanket
01:10:50that had hung
01:10:51on the wall
01:10:52appeared
01:10:53They show it to me
01:10:54They show it to me
01:10:54a wooden bowl
01:10:54This is zombie dust.
01:10:56It is true that there exists
01:10:57I see it
01:10:58This is zombie dust.
01:10:59or it could be anything
01:11:00I took a little with my hand
01:11:01He blew on my face
01:11:03I woke up two days later
01:11:04in a cabin in a village
01:11:06What happened during that time interval?
01:11:08I don't know
01:11:08All I know is that my whole body hurt.
01:11:10Well
01:11:10We had gone up there in a van
01:11:12I must have gotten out in the back of the van.
01:11:13They must have taken me down
01:11:14and two days later
01:11:15dawned
01:11:16You don't remember anything.
01:11:17nor nightmares
01:11:17not even a bad dream
01:11:18nothing
01:11:19that's all I remember
01:11:20They are the ones that as soon as I woke up
01:11:21run away from there
01:11:22a terror
01:11:24indescribable I imagine
01:11:25a real terror
01:11:26that when the fear is real
01:11:27It's very different.
01:11:28By the way, Juanjo
01:11:29Have you brought something for the audience?
01:11:31of fourth millennium
01:11:31so they can see it
01:11:32this that we have
01:11:33Let me tell you an anecdote
01:11:35Sometimes the figures we see
01:11:37And we are seeing amazing images
01:11:38The iconography is very curious
01:11:40It has a lot of power
01:11:40Sometimes it's not necessary
01:11:41that a figure
01:11:42have a thousand feathers
01:11:43twenty thousand colors
01:11:44sometimes the simple silhouette
01:11:46of a dark child
01:11:47with a goat horn on his head
01:11:49It makes one tremble
01:11:50because it says
01:11:51Gee
01:11:51These objects have power
01:11:52They have something
01:11:52I don't know how to describe it
01:11:53But there's code there
01:11:55unwritten
01:11:55Have you brought any items
01:11:56who have been at ceremonies?
01:11:57This has been in ceremonies
01:11:58where voodoo was also born
01:12:00in Benin
01:12:01Republic of Benin
01:12:01It all comes from the Republic of Benin
01:12:03the place where this religion was born
01:12:04born in the
01:12:05the Fon and Yoruba ethnic groups
01:12:07that's where it begins
01:12:07They are the most powerful sorcerers in Africa
01:12:09And that's how they created voodoo.
01:12:11and from there
01:12:12good with the slaves
01:12:13It spread worldwide
01:12:14But that's from the coast of Benin.
01:12:16and from Nigeria
01:12:17What do we have?
01:12:18We described a little
01:12:19This, for example
01:12:20Witches use it on their hand
01:12:21when they are cleaning it
01:12:22to the people around
01:12:23or entering into a trance
01:12:24beginning the trance
01:12:26They're moving this
01:12:27and with goat horns
01:12:28than the goat's horn
01:12:29or of a male goat
01:12:30always in all cultures
01:12:31It's omnipresent, isn't it?
01:12:32is omnipresent in evil
01:12:32when we work for evil
01:12:34whenever we are on the dark side
01:12:35We'll always have things like this.
01:12:37is with this around
01:12:38and with horns
01:12:39He passes them over his face
01:12:41while the other
01:12:41His eyes roll back
01:12:42and he goes into a trance
01:12:44we have brought precisely
01:12:45Juanjo
01:12:46And we are seeing now
01:12:47some images
01:12:48of trances
01:12:48of people
01:12:49You recorded them
01:12:50tremendous trances
01:12:51movements
01:12:51that seem worthy of epilepsy
01:12:53then
01:12:54the person believes they are
01:12:55rode
01:12:56mounted by a loa
01:12:57a god
01:12:58a genius
01:12:58a spirit
01:12:59the spirit
01:13:00He is no longer himself
01:13:00It's not him
01:13:01They even start talking to you
01:13:03in other languages
01:13:03as happens in other religions
01:13:05also in the possessions
01:13:06Here they start speaking French
01:13:07without having a clue
01:13:08or in English
01:13:09They start speaking to you in other languages
01:13:10that they do not know
01:13:11or in ancient languages
01:13:12in lost languages
01:13:13from Africa
01:13:14There are people who wear
01:13:15500 years there
01:13:16and they start talking
01:13:17of lost African languages
01:13:18when any African language
01:13:20it is not written
01:13:20It's all spoken.
01:13:21writing does not exist
01:13:22in none of them
01:13:23It is a possession
01:13:24that many times
01:13:25Well, it's drugs.
01:13:25have taken any drugs
01:13:26This is not
01:13:27There are many times
01:13:28that there are no drugs involved
01:13:29simply music and chants
01:13:30That's more than enough.
01:13:31music and songs
01:13:32that make them arrive
01:13:33repetitive
01:13:34repetitive
01:13:34the smoke
01:13:35They start smoking cigarettes
01:13:36the smoke
01:13:37which is the connection
01:13:37between the visible world
01:13:38and the invisible
01:13:39That's what opens the bridge for you.
01:13:40And that's when they feel
01:13:42that a spirit enters
01:13:43that spirit rides them
01:13:44and they are already a different person
01:13:45And you see them with their eyes rolled back in their heads.
01:13:47And you say, well
01:13:47This cannot be an act.
01:13:49dance
01:13:49You see them cross each other's faces
01:13:50They feel no pain
01:13:51there is a situation
01:13:52pierce the face
01:13:53I think we'll be able to see it too.
01:13:56images of self-mutilation
01:13:57pierce the face
01:13:58eating crystals
01:13:59José Manuel Novoa
01:14:00Why is this happening suddenly?
01:14:01enters a state of self-harm
01:14:03because
01:14:04well, many times
01:14:05These are demonstrations
01:14:07in front of others
01:14:08so they can see
01:14:08that in that state
01:14:09They are not themselves anymore
01:14:10but the spirit
01:14:11that has ridden them
01:14:12that possesses them
01:14:13Well, it can do these things
01:14:15They are usually this type
01:14:17of demonstrations
01:14:18the trance anyway
01:14:19may come
01:14:20or by ingestion
01:14:22of substances
01:14:23psychotropic
01:14:23as is the case
01:14:24of the iboga
01:14:25or ayahuasca
01:14:26peyote
01:14:27all this type
01:14:27of plants
01:14:29indolic
01:14:30entheogens
01:14:31that have
01:14:32fact that
01:14:33a cult takes place
01:14:35around them
01:14:35or it can also come
01:14:36in Africa
01:14:37For example
01:14:37There are studies that have been done
01:14:38that when the rhythm
01:14:39It is between 4 and 7 cycles
01:14:40This causes
01:14:41the trance
01:14:42the trance
01:14:43is
01:14:43according to many authors
01:14:45is to place
01:14:46on the horizon
01:14:47of reality
01:14:48from that other dimension
01:14:50where people
01:14:51may have
01:14:52ability
01:14:53as for
01:14:54they
01:14:55the Africans
01:14:55They say they can see further
01:14:56ability
01:14:57from seeing the ultrasensitive
01:14:59to see
01:14:59other things
01:15:01that
01:15:01if you're not in a trance
01:15:02you can't see
01:15:03For example
01:15:04shamanism
01:15:05the shaman
01:15:06in order to be able to
01:15:07cure
01:15:08in order to be able to
01:15:10to be the link
01:15:11between
01:15:12our world
01:15:13and beyond
01:15:14also enters a trance
01:15:16This from the beginning
01:15:17of the times
01:15:18from the cave
01:15:19or through fungi
01:15:21or through rhythms
01:15:22or through
01:15:23of those states
01:15:24of ecstasy
01:15:25that are caused
01:15:26is
01:15:27when the shaman
01:15:28when the person
01:15:29It has the ease
01:15:31of being aware
01:15:32between those two worlds
01:15:33Well, these are just theories.
01:15:35but really
01:15:36It's impressive.
01:15:37me the first time
01:15:38that I saw a trance
01:15:38in Africa
01:15:39well
01:15:40It was in that story
01:15:41by Boethius
01:15:43What is this secret society?
01:15:44where he was the only target
01:15:46who entered
01:15:48well the first trance
01:15:50that I saw
01:15:50It's impressive.
01:15:51It's impressive.
01:15:52because
01:15:53you realize
01:15:54that something is happening
01:15:55you realize
01:15:56that that person
01:15:57who is at that moment
01:15:58in that state
01:15:59It has a force
01:16:00that you almost feel it
01:16:01on the chest
01:16:02however skeptical
01:16:04that you are
01:16:04It's something that happens
01:16:05really
01:16:05It's impressive.
01:16:07I think that
01:16:08that today
01:16:09one must have
01:16:10At least show some respect.
01:16:11with these things
01:16:14above all
01:16:14when they happen
01:16:16for them
01:16:17It's not a show
01:16:18for tourists
01:16:19It's not in a hotel
01:16:19Well, you have to have respect.
01:16:21because
01:16:22Well, there's something there.
01:16:23there's something
01:16:24Something is floating there
01:16:25and something
01:16:25that it really has
01:16:27It is powerful
01:16:28and very powerful
01:16:29for them
01:16:30I believe that the
01:16:31people who are
01:16:32Looking at these images
01:16:33and listening to these stories
01:16:34because they have discovered
01:16:35a new world
01:16:35a world about which
01:16:36We will continue investigating
01:16:37and exploring
01:16:38our intention
01:16:39it was simply
01:16:39bring it up
01:16:40as he did
01:16:40Watt Davis
01:16:41in the famous
01:16:42zombie enigma
01:16:42It was a wake-up call
01:16:44tremendous
01:16:44to everything that was known
01:16:45of ethnobotany
01:16:46of substances
01:16:46and beliefs
01:16:47We are in the 21st century
01:16:49But this continues
01:16:50there
01:16:51present
01:16:52Juanjo
01:16:52José Manuel
01:16:53Thank you so much
01:16:53for the first visit
01:16:54because I'm sure
01:16:55that will have to be followed
01:16:56going deeper
01:16:57in the mystery
01:16:57of the zombies
01:16:58of voodoo
01:16:58and of the dark world
01:16:59with all due respect
01:17:00like you said
01:17:00a pleasure
01:17:03Incidentally, the cinema
01:17:05has also shown interest
01:17:05in these stories
01:17:06many times
01:17:07and it seems that
01:17:08in none of them
01:17:09has managed to get closer
01:17:10faithfully
01:17:10forcibly
01:17:11of the real events
01:17:13stories
01:17:14images
01:17:14documents
01:17:15colors
01:17:16chants
01:17:17I'm sure
01:17:18that already
01:17:19We will not be able to forget
01:17:30ab Congress
01:17:32with your morning
01:17:33all
01:17:33Okay
01:17:34valeer
01:17:34also
01:17:35the
01:17:35force with
01:17:51And as always, in the final stretch of our program,
01:17:54We analyzed some of the most surprising graphic documents.
01:17:58It's very curious that many of them, Carmen,
01:18:00They have been obtained in sacred places, in churches, in temples, in hermitages.
01:18:04This is, for example, the image that Miriam sent us.
01:18:07from Zarza de Montánchez, in Cáceres.
01:18:09He told us that his father had obtained this photograph in a church.
01:18:13and that at that moment he was completely alone.
01:18:15But you can see a man with his back turned.
01:18:18and another who appears to be kneeling.
01:18:20Well, there's an explanation for the photograph.
01:18:22It is an overlap due to excessive time exposure.
01:18:26One person appears with their back turned, and another, indeed,
01:18:29looking to the left.
01:18:30Both photographs are superimposed.
01:18:32It's been a long time since we talked about the sky,
01:18:34of the enigmas and mysteries that occur up there.
01:18:37There are photographs that, from time to time,
01:18:39They remind us that strange things happen.
01:18:41UFO or optical illusion?
01:18:43For Loreto Pastrana, it was an unidentified flying object.
01:18:48Those three lights we are seeing do have a plausible and real origin.
01:18:53This is an image taken through a window pane
01:18:57And this has caused the light source in the room to reflect.
01:19:01where the photographer was located.
01:19:03A light source behind them, which in this case was a lamp,
01:19:06It is the one that has emitted those lights that we now see in the photograph.
01:19:10And as always, both to see if there are mysteries that are truly worthy of investigation
01:19:15or simply bounces that can be analyzed by computer science,
01:19:18We have two ways to contact you.
01:19:19Two ways to contact.
01:19:21The first way, as always, is through email at cuartomilenio.com
01:19:26And we also have a post office box, number 18189, with the postal code 28080 in Madrid.
01:19:34We await all your information, all the documents, all the photos.
01:19:37all filming or even sound recordings.
01:19:40Because even though many have that, an explanation,
01:19:42We continue searching for the true enigmas that still remain to be solved.
01:19:45It is our mission and we know that we will continue to discover new unexplored worlds every week.
01:19:51As you know, we are Cuarto Milenio.
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