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00:00:11Music

00:00:21They are only 26 pages, 26 papyri, but their importance has shaken the world of archaeology and the world

00:00:27of Christianity.

00:00:28These are documents that, some say, represent the last legacy or testament of Judas, a kind of apocryphal, forbidden, hidden gospel.

00:00:39Others say that the discovery is not such a big deal and that, frankly, documents like these were already known.

00:00:45Apparently, around 1945, some Bedouin shepherds were in the bowels of Nahamad and in some caves a series

00:00:51of surprising findings.

00:00:53They were books bound in leather and inside there was a kind of row of parchments.

00:00:58They contained documentation that, frankly, had never been seen before.

00:01:03These were the apocryphal Bibles, the documents that the Church, around the 4th century, dismissed, considered fabrications, heresies, something worthy of

00:01:11be prohibited.

00:01:12Now, so much later, these desert documents are once again making waves, and with much controversy.

00:01:18Tonight, on Cuarto Milenio, with the best specialists, those who are actually translating these documents here in Spain,

00:01:24We're going to try to find out the truth.

00:01:27To shed light on the alleged apocryphal testament of Judas.

00:01:36In El Bierzo, no one has been able to forget the tragedy of tunnel number 20.

00:01:40Hundreds of victims and an alleged ghost shape a disturbing story that we want to remember tonight.

00:01:47Under the acronym Sémica Ultra, one of the most sinister projects in history was inaugurated.

00:01:54A CIA plan that aimed to create hypnotized assassins, unconscious human automatons capable of committing crimes.

00:02:01any atrocity, obeying a precise order.

00:02:06Old sanatoriums are fertile ground for legends and rumors.

00:02:10In Spain there are a dozen places where it is claimed that inexplicable events occur.

00:02:15Our team chose one of the most representative ones, the Hispanic one from Guadarrama.

00:02:20And of course, as every week, we will analyze the amazing photographs from the viewers of Cuarto Milenio.

00:02:31Around the year 30 AD, an enigmatic figure appeared in the burning sands of ancient Judea.

00:02:38His name is Jesus, his message is different, revolutionary, seductive.

00:02:42What surely no one imagined is that two thousand years later we would still be talking about him with the same

00:02:47passion, with the same controversy,

00:02:49And why not say it, with the same mystery, because we know almost nothing about a figure who changed

00:02:54the world.

00:02:54A direct, basic example, for instance, is the success of the book The Da Vinci Code,

00:03:00which essentially calls into question some of the apocryphal theories or even

00:03:05heretical beliefs surrounding the figure of the Messiah.

00:03:09Was he married to Mary Magdalene?

00:03:11Do we know anything about his lost years and where he might have received his information or education?

00:03:16Were his miracles real?

00:03:18Did he really die on the cross?

00:03:19The questions multiply, and it feels like we never truly get to know a man who changed

00:03:24the destiny of humanity.

00:03:26The latest news that's in all the newspapers, as you probably already know, is the Gospel according to Judas.

00:03:31Nothing more and nothing less than one of those texts that were banned in the early years of Christianity.

00:03:37They say it's going to be so important that the famous scene of the kiss of betrayal, the kiss of Judas,

00:03:42It could change.

00:03:43Some say that this ancient papyrus, buried near Nahamadi in Egypt, recounts that Judas was meticulously planned and

00:03:51that he was not a traitor.

00:03:53As you can see, there are many questions on the table.

00:03:55To begin answering them, perhaps it would be good to travel to the sacred place, to the place where one of its official chapters lived,

00:04:02to the place where he was nailed to the cross, Jerusalem.

00:04:09There are many sacred sites scattered across countless countries, but none possess the mysterious power that emanates

00:04:16this.

00:04:17Not surprisingly, old legends tell that God, after creating the world, established a place that would be his

00:04:24house on the face of the earth.

00:04:26This site would be Jerusalem, the only holy place for the three great religions of the West.

00:04:41Obviously, all three monotheistic religions are found in Jerusalem.

00:04:46You have Judaism, from the days when David brought the ark of the tabernacle and set it up on the

00:04:54Mount Moriah.

00:04:55A thousand years earlier, Abraham almost sacrificed his son, Isaac, on the same Mount Moriah.

00:05:02So, from a Jewish point of view, one, Christianity, where some of the events of

00:05:11the days of Christ.

00:05:12And obviously Islam, since the seventh or eighth century AD, considers Jerusalem to be the place of the ascension.

00:05:21of the prophet Muhammad.

00:05:23It is undoubtedly the most sacred city above all others, and paradoxically, the one that has caused the most wars.

00:05:30It has been almost 3,000 years of endless conflict.

00:05:34During this time, its walls have witnessed epic battles, and rivers of blood have flowed through its streets, reaching far beyond.

00:05:41the knees,

00:05:41just as the chronicles of the first crusaders narrated it.

00:05:45Everyone fought over her, everyone wanted her, and yet, Jerusalem, throughout time, insisted on

00:05:52to belong to everyone and at the same time to no one.

00:05:57On this tiny mound was built the Temple of Solomon, the most powerful building that ever existed for the

00:06:04Jewish people.

00:06:05Storehouse of all the sacred relics, today only the wall remains of it where Hebrews from all over the world

00:06:11They come to pray.

00:06:15Very close to this wall, Jesus of Nazareth was crucified, thus making Mount Moriah the key location

00:06:22for Christians.

00:06:24Centuries later, this same piece of land was chosen by Muhammad to ascend to heaven.

00:06:31Therefore, Jerusalem is also one of the four holy cities for Islam.

00:06:36A whole mix of beliefs and events full of mystery, which make this land the cradle of everything

00:06:42the mysticism of the West.

00:06:45This is the place where Jesus of Nazareth lived and was crucified.

00:06:49I was telling them about the enormous impact that the discovery of a manuscript is having; some say it is revealing, surprising, even

00:06:58that would change the history of the church.

00:07:00The Gospel of Judas is, according to some experts, just one more.

00:07:05One of many that were found perhaps in the vicinity of Nahamadi, a small town in Egypt, in the years

00:07:1140,

00:07:12which added a series of documents that caused some controversy, but we don't know if they will change.

00:07:19the history of the church or not.

00:07:20There have been some very interesting studies in Spain, for example, Gnostic texts, Library of Nahamadi, second volume.

00:07:26One of the authors of these surprising studies of texts of this type is Antonio Piñero,

00:07:32who is undoubtedly the person best positioned to shed light on this Gospel of Judas and so many others

00:07:37enigmas surrounding Jesus.

00:07:39Antonio Piñero is a professor of Greek philology at the Complutense University of Madrid,

00:07:43specialized in literature and language of early Christianity.

00:07:46Don Antonio, welcome to Cuarto Milenio.

00:07:48Well, Antonio, Gnostic texts, the Library of Nahamadi, strange documents, other Bibles, other Gospels,

00:07:55And suddenly one comes out, the Gospel of Judas, well, thanks to National Geographic,

00:08:02And suddenly they say that the story of Judas is going to change, and not only Judas's story, but everyone's.

00:08:06what we know about the Holy Scriptures.

00:08:09Is it really that bad?

00:08:10I certainly don't think so. To me, it seems like just another one of the ones we have in the

00:08:16faculty.

00:08:16We have hundreds of photographs of those manuscripts, and we have based the edition on those photographs.

00:08:24I can't say much because, like everyone else, I don't know the text.

00:08:30These people are releasing it in small doses so that when the time comes, it can be sold well, etc.

00:08:35So they've given us a little page, a fragment from here, another from here, and a few photographs.

00:08:39I've seen the photos and I've said the same thing as what we have at the faculty.

00:08:44The same typeface, which dates from the 4th century, is written in Coptic, that is, in the Egyptian language.

00:08:50but at that time it was no longer written with hieroglyphs, but with Greek capital letters.

00:08:56It reads well and when you examine it quickly you say, well, just another gospel.

00:09:04And that gospel is like the others.

00:09:07Other gospels?

00:09:08Yeah.

00:09:08Different?

00:09:09Of the 60 or 70 gospels that we know, apart from those admitted by the church.

00:09:15Some are just a title, others are fragments, three or four pages, less, half a page,

00:09:22and others are complete.

00:09:24Some have been manipulated, others have been transmitted as is.

00:09:27I think this is just another one.

00:09:29And in my opinion, we have already published them, and here in Spain they are already published,

00:09:33texts that I believe are more important.

00:09:35So I'll answer you directly.

00:09:37Will this change history?

00:09:38Well, I don't think so.

00:09:39Antonio, you have been studying documents as interesting as this one,

00:09:44Mary Magdalene, Philip, gospels, documents, which at a given moment in history

00:09:49They are considered false, apocryphal, different, distinct.

00:09:54These different Bibles, let's call them that, tell such different stories,

00:09:58so destabilizing, so astonishing, compared to the official version.

00:10:03Yeah.

00:10:04They are indeed destabilizing, astonishing, and tremendous.

00:10:08For example, I would say that there are some infancy gospels

00:10:11in which they present Jesus as a murderer.

00:10:14In other words, he takes a child who has bothered him, hit him, knocked him down, and...

00:10:18kills.

00:10:19Indeed, then he resurrects him.

00:10:21But of course, there appears an irate Jesus, almost a scoundrel,

00:10:26who also bullies his teachers, humiliates them, doesn't allow them to punish him, etc.

00:10:33It's strange, very strange.

00:10:35Can we pay attention? Can we believe this is historic?

00:10:39I personally have many doubts.

00:10:41For one reason.

00:10:42Because this character was born into public life when he was already quite grown up,

00:10:49And the only thing that mattered was what he did during that public life, one, two, three years, we don't know,

00:10:56Well, the beginning of his life and another part are completely unknown.

00:11:00A gentleman comes to me two hundred years later and says, "In his childhood he did this and that."

00:11:07Well, I say, look, the same as with other great men of antiquity,

00:11:10When they grow up, they invent a childhood for them, they invent a different ending for them,

00:11:16Or do they invent certain passages from his life? Can I trust that?

00:11:21No, because there's a rule in ancient history which is that the texts closest to the events are usually the most accurate.

00:11:31They may contain true stories.

00:11:34And I say, they can.

00:11:35Imagine a gospel like this, probably from Judas, written two hundred years later.

00:11:41Well, I think it has little, very little that can alter a historical image of Jesus.

00:11:46On paper, this Gospel of Judas apparently shows or demonstrates, or attempts to demonstrate,

00:11:51that the tradition was not what it seemed, but rather that it was all a kind of plan orchestrated by Jesus himself.

00:11:56There, in the holy city, in Jerusalem, was Juan G. Vallejo.

00:12:00Some say it's such a special place that it changes many people's thinking.

00:12:04that many have had sudden conversions.

00:12:07Furthermore, I don't know if you remember, but when the year 2000 arrived,

00:12:09There was even talk of a syndrome, Jerusalem syndrome.

00:12:13I don't know, Juan G., if you've ever felt it, but it's a place unlike any other, isn't it? Welcome.

00:12:17Okay, thank you very much, Sikir.

00:12:18Man, Jerusalem is a city that makes anyone's hair stand on end.

00:12:21When we made the connection with Cadena Ser for almost an hour from the Holy Sepulchre,

00:12:25I told you that, unless someone is a cobblestone, they feel things in Jerusalem, right?

00:12:28It's a very special feeling, for example, walking along the Via Dolorosa on a Friday afternoon,

00:12:35supposedly touching the steps where Jesus of Nazareth was dying,

00:12:38At the same time, you hear the muezzin calling in the background, right?, calling the faithful to the mosque.

00:12:42And ten minutes later you can walk past the Wailing Wall

00:12:45and see hundreds of Jews placing slips of paper with wishes.

00:12:49in the only remaining fragment of the Temple of Jerusalem,

00:12:53which was the most sacred temple that ever existed for Judaism in all of history.

00:12:55Antonio, there's a key question that many people are still asking.

00:12:58and that they have passed it on to us many times.

00:13:00So, I imagine it's a difficult topic to develop quickly.

00:13:04But on a historical level, and even on a physically proven level,

00:13:08Is there still controversy among those who believe in the real existence of Jesus of Nazareth?

00:13:12And who still doubts the existence of the historical figure?

00:13:16I would say that within the field of those of us who investigate early Christianity,

00:13:21Well, 98%, considering Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant, atheist, agnostic,

00:13:3198% of us are convinced that this character really existed.

00:13:36And 2% are undecided.

00:13:38And a very small part probably deny it.

00:13:41What do we know, briefly, about the lost years of Jesus?

00:13:46Because the feeling is that until you reach, as we've said, your 30s,

00:13:49the sources we have to find out what happened to that child Jesus,

00:13:52There are very few of those teenage Jesus.

00:13:55In your opinion, is there anything we know for certain that we can believe?

00:13:58Well, I would honestly say almost nothing.

00:14:02Next to nothing?

00:14:03Nothing, almost.

00:14:04Well, you could say he was born before the great King Herod the Great died.

00:14:10All sources agree on that.

00:14:12That is, he was born 4 or 5 years before the beginning of the Christian era.

00:14:17It would be another problem to know why we have that 4 or 5 year lag.

00:14:21But anyway, that's another problem.

00:14:24And it's not even known for sure if he was born in Bethlehem.

00:14:28Not even.

00:14:29Not even that.

00:14:30Not even that.

00:14:31Even though we have all four evangelists,

00:14:342 who claim that he was born in Bethlehem.

00:14:36But I would tell him, and I have said it many times,

00:14:39than in the only slightly longer texts

00:14:42and close to the character we have,

00:14:44which are the first two chapters of the Gospel of Matthew

00:14:48and the first two chapters of the Gospel of Luke,

00:14:50I've said many times that people should take a piece of paper and a pen.

00:14:54and try to put together the facts that each one says and the other one says

00:14:57and try to get them married.

00:14:59There's no way.

00:15:00Impossible.

00:15:01It's impossible to marry them.

00:15:02Except for 4 things.

00:15:04Except for 4 things.

00:15:07So, do we know anything?

00:15:08Well, yes.

00:15:10Well, he was born in that era and I would say almost nothing else.

00:15:14Therefore, it is not surprising that the mystery

00:15:16around this character be large,

00:15:17because everything still needs to be investigated.

00:15:19What is clear is that for 2,000 years

00:15:21has permeated with its message, with its mystery,

00:15:24with its enigma, as is all of today's society, for example.

00:15:27That's why we keep talking about him.

00:15:29Some dared to go a little further.

00:15:31We don't know if they already have more or less extravagant theories.

00:15:34But we also want to analyze them here.

00:15:35on Cuarto Milenio.

00:15:36For example, there were some very controversial books.

00:15:39There will be some better, some worse.

00:15:41For example, the famous treatise by a Catalan German,

00:15:43Andreas Faber-Kaiser, who said

00:15:44Jesus lived and died in Kashmir.

00:15:47Even theories about where the remains actually lie,

00:15:51because they don't believe it's in Jerusalem,

00:15:53of this prodigious individual.

00:15:56Juanja, if you don't mind, after the commercial break

00:15:57We're going to talk about different theories,

00:15:59from other tombs of Jesus

00:16:01and of people who believe that there really was

00:16:03another ending for that crucifixion.

00:16:05Yes, I think maybe, well,

00:16:07one of the things that appears in the gospels,

00:16:08if Jesus died

00:16:11He appears and they stick their fingers in his sores

00:16:12simply because he had died,

00:16:13He was still alive.

00:16:14But if you want, we can talk about it later.

00:16:15of the next part of the report.

00:16:17Well, let's talk about it because it's really worth it.

00:16:18Are other tombs of Jesus possible?

00:16:20Let's find out here,

00:16:21on Cuarto Milenio.

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00:17:04The Holy Sepulchre could be the heart

00:17:07of that holy city that is Jerusalem.

00:17:09Thousands of people visit him daily.

00:17:12encountering something different,

00:17:14perhaps searching for an answer

00:17:15for its many unknowns.

00:17:17They say he died there.

00:17:19where Jesus of Nazareth was buried,

00:17:20no more, no less.

00:17:21The theories are diverse.

00:17:22There are some who put them in check,

00:17:24that they have tried to devise

00:17:25another type of hypothesis.

00:17:27Some are surprising.

00:17:29Some, I say,

00:17:30They were also trying to explain

00:17:31those lost years.

00:17:33Are they just literary fictions,

00:17:34so fashionable nowadays?

00:17:36Let's try to find out.

00:17:37in our next report.

00:17:39A search for the exact location

00:17:41where Jesus of Nazareth was buried.

00:17:47It all started right here,

00:17:50right next to these ancient olive trees

00:17:52who impassively gaze at the traveler.

00:17:54This place is the garden of Gesemane,

00:17:57the exact location

00:17:58where a group of soldiers

00:18:00They captured Jesus of Nazareth,

00:18:02leading into one of the episodes

00:18:04that marked the history of humanity.

00:18:06The Passion of Christ.

00:18:09For many,

00:18:10here she became inconsolable

00:18:11the very Son of God

00:18:12on earth.

00:18:13And that's all,

00:18:14People arrive from all over the world

00:18:16to feel it up close

00:18:17the memory of that presence.

00:18:19There are even those who

00:18:20they continue to argue

00:18:21in endless battles

00:18:23regarding what has been proven

00:18:24of its existence.

00:18:27There are more than a billion

00:18:28of scattered Christians

00:18:30all over the world.

00:18:31And Jerusalem

00:18:31It's like a map

00:18:33that leads them

00:18:33through death

00:18:34of his God.

00:18:36Through the streets

00:18:37of the old town

00:18:38wanders

00:18:38every Friday of the year

00:18:39a procession

00:18:40of pilgrims

00:18:41which he travels with devotion

00:18:43the Via Dolorosa,

00:18:44the same path

00:18:45that two thousand years ago

00:18:46led his Messiah

00:18:48until physical death.

00:18:50The current layout

00:18:51of these streets

00:18:52It's not the same

00:18:53than the one of time

00:18:53of Jesus Christ.

00:18:55But different

00:18:56archaeological excavations

00:18:57have brought to light

00:18:58pieces of the old pavement

00:19:00which he walked

00:19:01the Nazarene.

00:19:03Well, obviously

00:19:03There is a section of paving,

00:19:06There are some houses,

00:19:07all of that is found

00:19:09nowadays

00:19:10under the buildings

00:19:12current

00:19:13and in few places

00:19:14where it has been excavated

00:19:16The vestiges are still visible.

00:19:18But the key place

00:19:19to understand

00:19:20the death of Christ

00:19:21It is the Church

00:19:22of the Holy Sepulchre.

00:19:24Their story

00:19:24it goes back

00:19:25to the 4th century,

00:19:26when the Byzantines

00:19:27following the teachings

00:19:28of the gospels

00:19:29and the traditions

00:19:30of the area

00:19:31They pinpoint the exact location

00:19:33where Jesus died.

00:19:34The specific location

00:19:35where the cross was erected

00:19:37is known

00:19:37like Golgotha

00:19:38at the top

00:19:39from a quarry

00:19:40whose name

00:19:40It was Calvary.

00:19:43Up to this exact point

00:19:44They come every year

00:19:46tens of thousands

00:19:47of pilgrims.

00:19:48But the Church

00:19:49of the Holy Sepulchre

00:19:50It also includes

00:19:51the place

00:19:52where they anointed

00:19:53to the Savior

00:19:53and his tomb.

00:19:55As you go down

00:19:56we met

00:19:57with a stone

00:19:58that is

00:19:58precisely

00:19:59at the foot of Golgotha

00:20:00And that's what is called

00:20:01traditionally

00:20:02the place

00:20:02where Jesus

00:20:04was wrapped

00:20:04on the sheet

00:20:05to be taken

00:20:06to the grave.

00:20:07Where theoretically

00:20:08They should have washed it

00:20:09They should have perfumed it.

00:20:10But since there was no time

00:20:12because it was Friday

00:20:12and it was approaching

00:20:13the entrance of Shabbat

00:20:14They took him directly

00:20:15to the grave

00:20:16that is

00:20:16come on

00:20:17just 20 meters away

00:20:19later

00:20:20and there too

00:20:21we found another one

00:20:22small building

00:20:24a building

00:20:25very small

00:20:25that hides

00:20:26or encloses

00:20:28the place

00:20:29where would it be

00:20:30properly

00:20:31the deposit

00:20:32for the body

00:20:33the tomb.

00:20:35However

00:20:36the death of Christ

00:20:37It's an episode

00:20:38full of a thousand controversies

00:20:39and a controversy

00:20:40that lasts

00:20:41to this day.

00:20:43There are scholars

00:20:43who are convinced

00:20:44of the theories

00:20:45most surprising.

00:20:47For example

00:20:48There are those who think

00:20:49who survived

00:20:50to the scene

00:20:51of Mount Calvary.

00:20:52According to the chronicles

00:20:53Roman

00:20:54were needed

00:20:54up to 24 hours

00:20:56so that the condemned

00:20:57died nailed

00:20:58on the cross

00:20:58and the Nazarene

00:21:00he was so alone

00:21:01between 6 and 8.

00:21:02Besides

00:21:03the fact that

00:21:04there were several

00:21:05those who saw him

00:21:05after death

00:21:06I would not endorse

00:21:07the fact that

00:21:08He rose again

00:21:09but simply

00:21:10and within the theory

00:21:11of this current

00:21:12of thought

00:21:13who never died.

00:21:15Therefore

00:21:16always according to

00:21:17these thoughts

00:21:19somewhat extravagant

00:21:20maybe one day

00:21:21can be found

00:21:22his true tomb

00:21:23somewhere

00:21:24still

00:21:25to be determined.

00:21:26Well

00:21:27three of them

00:21:28They will be in Israel

00:21:29in Jerusalem

00:21:32Remember

00:21:32it is probably

00:21:33I think it was

00:21:348 or 9 years ago

00:21:36They were talking about an ossuary

00:21:37that they had found

00:21:39with the bones

00:21:40supposedly

00:21:41of Jesus

00:21:42of Mary

00:21:44and a Joseph

00:21:44No?

00:21:45but over the years

00:21:46it seems that

00:21:47That was a fraud

00:21:48Hey?

00:21:51There's this one from Masada

00:21:53There's the thing about Japan.

00:21:54there's the thing about

00:21:56the tomb of God

00:21:58in France

00:21:59We already have

00:22:00four places

00:22:02Glastonbury

00:22:03five

00:22:04Kashimira

00:22:05six

00:22:06and surely

00:22:08there will be

00:22:08a few more.

00:22:12It's been over

00:22:13two thousand years

00:22:14who died

00:22:15in this place

00:22:15bleak

00:22:16and yet

00:22:17his teachings

00:22:18and its footprint

00:22:19they remain palpable

00:22:20in life

00:22:21and the hearts

00:22:22of half of humanity

00:22:24they will rest

00:22:25his remains

00:22:25here or not

00:22:26life

00:22:27of Jesus

00:22:28of Nazareth

00:22:28eternally

00:22:29will be coated

00:22:30mystery

00:22:31a mystery

00:22:32and in this

00:22:33Yes, there isn't one.

00:22:34no doubt

00:22:35which will continue

00:22:36along

00:22:37of all eternity

00:22:42apocryphal tombs

00:22:43Never a truer word spoken

00:22:44juanje

00:22:45the story

00:22:46what else

00:22:47let's say

00:22:47may have

00:22:48some argument

00:22:48or it can be based

00:22:49in something

00:22:50is the one of

00:22:51Rozabal

00:22:51cashmere

00:22:52which motivated

00:22:53many investigations

00:22:54and very vehement

00:22:55in its time

00:22:55First, there is an issue

00:22:57It is Jesus

00:22:57He died on the cross

00:22:58or he did not die on the cross

00:22:59There's the first one

00:23:00let's call it a great unknown

00:23:01so

00:23:01Let's analyze the facts

00:23:02of the Passion of Christ

00:23:04according to Latin texts

00:23:05and Roman texts

00:23:06it was many times

00:23:07necessary that the crucifixion

00:23:08last until

00:23:0924 hours

00:23:09in the case

00:23:11of Jesus of Nazareth

00:23:11It seems that the texts

00:23:12They tell us it lasts

00:23:13between 6 and 8 hours

00:23:15to Jesus

00:23:15They don't break

00:23:16the legs

00:23:18He is given a spear thrust.

00:23:19on the side

00:23:19but a spear

00:23:20on the side

00:23:20It doesn't kill you

00:23:22the tomb

00:23:22in which he is buried

00:23:23Jesus

00:23:23is bought

00:23:24some time before

00:23:25by Joseph of Arimathea

00:23:26who knows that he is

00:23:26very close to Golgotha

00:23:27the site where he was crucified

00:23:28therefore

00:23:29in that tomb

00:23:30bribing the guards

00:23:31which was very easy

00:23:32They could have been left alone

00:23:33herbs to cure him

00:23:34But there is one more element

00:23:35that people forget

00:23:36And what if instead of vinegar

00:23:38Jesus was given

00:23:39laudanum

00:23:39that smells the same

00:23:40and it's an anesthetic

00:23:41Jesus fell asleep

00:23:43on the cross

00:23:43It was removed from the cross

00:23:45while alive

00:23:46He was anointed

00:23:47and he was healed

00:23:47for 3 nights

00:23:49He continued to be treated

00:23:50bribing the guards

00:23:51the third night

00:23:52left

00:23:52and from there

00:23:53that many witnesses

00:23:54they claimed

00:23:55that they put their fingers in him

00:23:56in the holes

00:23:57that they had done to them

00:23:58at the crucifixion

00:23:59That's one theory.

00:24:00that I always

00:24:00It gave me goosebumps.

00:24:02which would not prevent

00:24:03and respecting

00:24:04to all Catholics

00:24:05of the Christians

00:24:06that this gentleman's message

00:24:07because it was really outside

00:24:08the message of the Son of God

00:24:09What happened to him next?

00:24:10There are some documentaries

00:24:11from prestigious chains

00:24:12such as

00:24:12EBC's

00:24:13who have collected this story

00:24:14which also collected

00:24:15Andrea Faber-Kaizen

00:24:16in this book

00:24:16which is called

00:24:17Jesus lived and died

00:24:18in Kashmir

00:24:18which caused a seizure

00:24:19certainly not similar

00:24:20the da Vinci phenomenon

00:24:21but yes in the year 76

00:24:23It even sparked books

00:24:24against the grain and so on

00:24:25Of course there is a story

00:24:26very curious

00:24:26suddenly

00:24:27it is discovered that

00:24:28in an area of Kashmir

00:24:30in Kashmir

00:24:32there is a tomb

00:24:33of a holy man

00:24:33a holy man

00:24:35that we already know

00:24:36It has some characteristics

00:24:38Muslim women

00:24:38but that the holy man

00:24:39It was much earlier

00:24:40to the Muslim religion

00:24:41Let me explain

00:24:41the tests of Caprano XIV

00:24:43that are done

00:24:43in that tomb

00:24:44demonstrate that

00:24:45about the 1st century

00:24:46after

00:24:46I mean

00:24:47around the year 100

00:24:49more or less

00:24:49The person would die

00:24:51that is buried there

00:24:52this person

00:24:53that is buried

00:24:54whose name is Yesuaf

00:24:55which was called

00:24:56He married a lady

00:24:57whose name was Marján

00:24:58a possible Maria as well

00:25:00He was also buried

00:25:01For example

00:25:01according to Hebrew tradition

00:25:02with head looking

00:25:03east

00:25:04But the most curious thing is

00:25:05is that in the tomb

00:25:07of this gentleman

00:25:07right at her feet

00:25:08two holes appear

00:25:10that if they put their feet

00:25:11one on top of the other

00:25:12would prove that that gentleman

00:25:13was nailed down once

00:25:14on a cross

00:25:15so

00:25:16the dates of Caprano XIV

00:25:17They are approaching

00:25:19and they could coincide

00:25:20with that of life

00:25:21of Jesus of Nazareth

00:25:22the tradition of the area

00:25:23by name

00:25:24his

00:25:25as much as his wife

00:25:26also

00:25:27would confront this

00:25:28even the shape of the tomb

00:25:29based on Jewish tradition

00:25:31and for the professor

00:25:34from the Complutense University

00:25:35from Madrid

00:25:35the other version

00:25:37a theory

00:25:38absolutely fantastical

00:25:39which is the product

00:25:40of Romanticism

00:25:42of the 18th century

00:25:43no one can doubt

00:25:44I haven't gotten involved in that

00:25:45but I

00:25:46I cannot doubt

00:25:47that there was

00:25:48a holy man

00:25:48that it was

00:25:49Well, from a few centuries ago.

00:25:50before Muhammad

00:25:51but everything else

00:25:53It is based on speculation

00:25:54hypothesis

00:25:54about hypotheses

00:25:55which seem to me

00:25:56absolutely fantastical

00:25:58Antonio

00:25:58So we stayed

00:25:59with that word

00:26:00of Jesus

00:26:00with those documents

00:26:02because of course

00:26:03the matter

00:26:03of the apocryphal gospels

00:26:04what are they really saying?

00:26:05whether it really

00:26:06as we said before

00:26:07They are so destabilizing

00:26:09that will be the argument

00:26:10for future research

00:26:11of fourth millennium

00:26:11and also

00:26:12Juanje Vallejo

00:26:12he will tell us

00:26:13many of his investigations

00:26:14in the Holy Land

00:26:15some

00:26:16I foresee it already

00:26:17truly amazing

00:26:19Juanje

00:26:20thanks a lot

00:26:20buddy

00:26:21Don Antonio Piñero

00:26:22thanks a lot

00:26:22for your first visit

00:26:23to fourth millennium

00:26:24which will not be the last

00:26:25Of course

00:26:26what there is not

00:26:26of Jesus of Nazareth

00:26:27Of course not

00:26:28They are photographs

00:26:29although they have been counterfeited

00:26:30on many occasions

00:26:31alleged documents

00:26:32of appearances

00:26:33of the Messiah

00:26:34We're going now.

00:26:35with another subject

00:26:36completely different

00:26:37and much more up-to-date

00:26:38in the sense of technology

00:26:40those photographs

00:26:41that they send us

00:26:42the colleagues

00:26:43the friends

00:26:43those who see

00:26:44fourth millennium

00:27:00photos of all kinds

00:27:02those that have arrived

00:27:03this week

00:27:04until fourth millennium

00:27:05the faces

00:27:06yes indeed

00:27:06they still are

00:27:07a great classic

00:27:08Carmen Porter

00:27:08good night

00:27:09Good evening Iker

00:27:10indeed

00:27:11Geray Hernández

00:27:12he sent us

00:27:13This curious photograph

00:27:14from Gran Canaria

00:27:15They were taking

00:27:16an image

00:27:17this woman

00:27:18who is posing

00:27:19and precisely

00:27:19they realize

00:27:21just two years ago

00:27:22that someone

00:27:23appears behind her

00:27:25the bust appears

00:27:26of a woman

00:27:26and indeed

00:27:27by increasing the area

00:27:28where it appears

00:27:29that bust

00:27:30which tells us

00:27:31the sender

00:27:31we see that indeed

00:27:33features appear

00:27:34that suggest

00:27:34that correspond

00:27:35to a person

00:27:36We have also discovered

00:27:38because there's a mosquito net

00:27:39at the window

00:27:40or some kind of plastic

00:27:41blue-green in color

00:27:43and that this surface

00:27:44acts as a filter

00:27:45and hides

00:27:46anyone

00:27:47your object

00:27:47that is behind

00:27:48but with the flash

00:27:49which appears to have been used

00:27:51when capturing this image

00:27:52because it has been reflected

00:27:53that other person

00:27:55that was

00:27:55truly

00:27:56looking also

00:27:57towards the camera

00:27:58last week

00:27:58We were talking about Marian apparitions

00:28:00and of very strange photographs

00:28:01in El Escorial

00:28:02devotion

00:28:03and the photographs

00:28:04more or less unusual

00:28:05They remain united

00:28:07through a strange knot

00:28:08Carmen

00:28:08if also

00:28:09now that we're finished

00:28:11Holy Week

00:28:12many of our viewers as well

00:28:13have been able to capture

00:28:14some image

00:28:15shocking

00:28:16that they can send it to us

00:28:17of course

00:28:18but in this case

00:28:18was taken

00:28:19several months ago

00:28:21I said they were

00:28:23in Salamanca

00:28:24Fernando sent it to us

00:28:25and that they captured

00:28:26this image

00:28:27where the Virgin Mary can be seen

00:28:28whom they were photographing

00:28:29but when I upload the photo

00:28:31on the computer

00:28:31they realize

00:28:32that there is a strange figure

00:28:34like praying

00:28:34at the feet

00:28:35of this religious image

00:28:37and indeed

00:28:38in the area

00:28:38in which he tells us

00:28:39the sender

00:28:39the silhouette appears

00:28:41of a person

00:28:42they said

00:28:43that at that moment

00:28:43There was nobody there

00:28:44and that in the church

00:28:46access is not available

00:28:47from no one

00:28:48to that image

00:28:49but truly

00:28:50Yes, he was a person

00:28:51who was praying

00:28:52to which even

00:28:53we can see

00:28:54the reflection

00:28:54of what appears to be

00:28:55a watch

00:28:56and also

00:28:57down there

00:28:58which may be

00:28:59the bag

00:28:59that this woman was carrying

00:29:01It must be said

00:29:01which is very normal

00:29:02that the churches

00:29:03have a back

00:29:05where access will be granted

00:29:07to this type of images

00:29:08to virgins

00:29:09to Christs

00:29:09to change it

00:29:10what flowers are

00:29:11or put the cloak on properly

00:29:13So it would be

00:29:14a person

00:29:14that at those moments

00:29:15He was there praying

00:29:17without anyone knowing

00:29:18So there was no ghost

00:29:19but a person of flesh and blood

00:29:20that in any case

00:29:21had disobeyed

00:29:22some rule

00:29:23to approach

00:29:23to that figure

00:29:24now let's go

00:29:25to talk about stories

00:29:26which also broke

00:29:27all the rules

00:29:28all legality

00:29:29a dark story

00:29:31with official documents

00:29:32of the CIA

00:29:33the most sinister project

00:29:35that humankind has seen

00:29:36MK Ultra

00:29:58There's a popular rumor

00:29:59never well substantiated

00:30:01which indicates that we control

00:30:0310% of our brain

00:30:05which is not a rumor

00:30:06And yes, it is.

00:30:06absolutely proven

00:30:08is that many

00:30:09intelligence agencies

00:30:11many espionage services

00:30:12and above all

00:30:13many authorities

00:30:14they have tried to control

00:30:15our entire brain

00:30:16and conduct experiments

00:30:17terrifying

00:30:18to achieve that goal

00:30:19what I have in my hands

00:30:21Thanks to my colleague

00:30:22Eric Frattini

00:30:23These are official documents

00:30:25of the CIA

00:30:25declassified

00:30:26after 50 years

00:30:28that speak

00:30:29from MK Ultra

00:30:31It's a story

00:30:32hard to believe

00:30:33but absolutely real

00:30:34search

00:30:35of programmed killers

00:30:36people

00:30:37that they committed

00:30:38acts

00:30:39more or less

00:30:40noble or ignoble

00:30:41without being aware

00:30:42of it

00:30:42drug experiments

00:30:44a story

00:30:44that occurred

00:30:4550 years ago

00:30:46in the middle

00:30:47cold war

00:30:48It introduces us to it

00:30:49our colleague

00:30:50Santiago Camacho

00:30:55when we talk

00:30:57of conspiracies

00:30:57we're essentially talking about

00:30:59power

00:31:00those who conspire

00:31:02they seek to dominate

00:31:03to their fellow human beings

00:31:04their bodies

00:31:06and essentially

00:31:07their minds

00:31:08existence

00:31:10of fabulous means

00:31:10subliminal

00:31:11to manipulate

00:31:12psychologically

00:31:13to people

00:31:14is one of the greats

00:31:15topics

00:31:16of the theories

00:31:16conspiracy

00:31:17a topic

00:31:19which unfortunately

00:31:20It's real

00:31:25the central agency

00:31:26intelligence

00:31:27North American

00:31:28for a good part

00:31:29of its history

00:31:29He dedicated himself to experimenting

00:31:31with a whole complex

00:31:32drug arsenal

00:31:33electronic implants

00:31:35hypnosis

00:31:36and other tools

00:31:38for washing

00:31:38of brains

00:31:39whose qualities

00:31:40and applications

00:31:41were studied

00:31:42during the call

00:31:43Project MK Ultra

00:31:54directed by Dr.

00:31:55Sidney Gottlieb

00:31:56MK Ultra

00:31:57It was the name

00:31:58in code

00:31:58that received

00:31:59one of the projects

00:32:00with greater scope

00:32:01of the CIA

00:32:01that lasted

00:32:02since 1950

00:32:03until 1970

00:32:06and with which

00:32:07they intended to produce

00:32:08the drug

00:32:09of the truth

00:32:10perfect

00:32:10this drug

00:32:12used experimentally

00:32:13about people

00:32:14which they did not know

00:32:15to be subjects

00:32:16from a study

00:32:16it was used

00:32:18during the cold war

00:32:19to interrogate

00:32:20to potential spies

00:32:21of the Soviet Union

00:32:22and to test

00:32:23future possibilities

00:32:24mind control

00:32:25in human beings

00:32:29MK Ultra

00:32:30began

00:32:31under orders

00:32:31from the director

00:32:32of the CIA

00:32:33Alan Dules

00:32:34in April 1953

00:32:37supposedly

00:32:37as a response

00:32:38to similar projects

00:32:39of the Soviet Union

00:32:40China and North Korea

00:32:42used on prisoners

00:32:43American war

00:32:45during the war

00:32:46from Korea

00:32:46along with the desire

00:32:48of using techniques

00:32:49similar

00:32:49in their captives

00:32:50the CIA

00:32:51I was also interested

00:32:53in manipulating

00:32:53foreign leaders

00:32:54with these techniques

00:32:56and later

00:32:57would inventory

00:32:58several schemes

00:32:59to drug

00:33:00to Fidel Castro

00:33:03because

00:33:04most

00:33:05from the records

00:33:06of the project

00:33:07MK Ultra

00:33:07were deliberately

00:33:09destroyed

00:33:09in 1972

00:33:11under orders

00:33:12of the then

00:33:13director

00:33:13Richard Helms

00:33:14It's impossible.

00:33:15to have a complete

00:33:16understanding

00:33:17of the more than 150

00:33:19sponsored projects

00:33:20by MK Ultra

00:33:21and the programs

00:33:22of the CIA

00:33:23many of these methods

00:33:25implied

00:33:25drug use

00:33:26especially

00:33:28LSD

00:33:29taking place

00:33:30experiments

00:33:31in which

00:33:32hundreds of doses

00:33:33of this substance

00:33:34were administered

00:33:35without their knowledge

00:33:36to innocent citizens

00:33:38which they did not know

00:33:39being used

00:33:40like guinea pigs

00:33:41of the Indies

00:33:43one of the purposes

00:33:45finals

00:33:46of these practices

00:33:47was to manufacture

00:33:48a killer

00:33:48controlled

00:33:49artificially

00:33:50an effective

00:33:51and ruthless

00:33:52secret agent

00:33:53that not even

00:33:54himself

00:33:54knew that he was

00:33:55a species

00:33:57of automaton

00:33:57flesh and blood

00:33:58that he acted

00:34:00as a reflex action

00:34:01in certain

00:34:02stimuli

00:34:06today a large part

00:34:08of the American people

00:34:09no doubt

00:34:09of the resounding

00:34:10reality

00:34:10of this project

00:34:11sinister

00:34:12and many claim

00:34:14that the murders

00:34:15of characters

00:34:15like John Fitzgerald Kennedy

00:34:17and his brother Robert

00:34:18take on a new dimension

00:34:21contemplated

00:34:21from this

00:34:22dark possibility

00:34:30the documents

00:34:32that declassified

00:34:32the American authority

00:34:33exactly

00:34:34published

00:34:35for the first time

00:34:36December 5th

00:34:37of 1955

00:34:38It's been 50 years

00:34:40They are amazing

00:34:41to the point

00:34:42to reflect scenes

00:34:43like these rows

00:34:45laces

00:34:45shoes

00:34:46And you might ask yourselves

00:34:47And what the hell

00:34:48They have to do

00:34:49the shoes

00:34:49in this matter?

00:34:51Well

00:34:51appears to be

00:34:52appears to be

00:34:52that the controlled

00:34:54for the project

00:34:54MK Ultra

00:34:55the subjugated

00:34:56to that species

00:34:56brainwashing

00:34:57of hypnosis

00:34:57It was verified

00:34:59at least

00:35:00156 people

00:35:01they tied themselves

00:35:02the shoes

00:35:03completely the opposite

00:35:04with the ribbon

00:35:05below

00:35:06an anomaly

00:35:07that doesn't happen

00:35:08unnoticed

00:35:09in these reports

00:35:09This is Santiago Camacho

00:35:10good night

00:35:11It seems incredible

00:35:12But it was real.

00:35:13good night

00:35:14Yes, it is

00:35:14completely real

00:35:15Let's think that

00:35:16in the decade

00:35:16of the 70s

00:35:17a commission

00:35:18research

00:35:18of the Senate

00:35:20United States

00:35:20presided

00:35:21by the senator

00:35:22Ted Kennedy

00:35:23exposed

00:35:24to great scandal

00:35:26of the entire public

00:35:26American

00:35:27and of opinion

00:35:29global public

00:35:30exposed

00:35:31the project

00:35:31MK Ultra

00:35:32the project

00:35:33carried out

00:35:34on the part

00:35:34from the agency

00:35:35intelligence center

00:35:36United States

00:35:36of the CIA

00:35:37to control

00:35:38the mind

00:35:39of human beings

00:35:40obviously

00:35:41without their knowledge

00:35:42nor their consent

00:35:43and lead them

00:35:44to do things

00:35:45more varied

00:35:45all of this

00:35:46through experiments

00:35:47atrocious

00:35:48some of them

00:35:49experiments

00:35:50illegal

00:35:50experiments

00:35:51in which

00:35:52because they were taken

00:35:53citizens

00:35:54completely innocent

00:35:55like guinea pigs

00:35:56of the Indies

00:35:57we wanted to attend

00:35:58to one of the most

00:35:59prestigious

00:35:59Spanish psychiatrists

00:36:00ample

00:36:01recognized

00:36:02internationally

00:36:03the doctor

00:36:04Don Enrique Rojas

00:36:05and we asked him

00:36:06that's why

00:36:06brainwashing

00:36:07It continues to be done

00:36:08and if it is done

00:36:09How is it done?

00:36:10They are two different things.

00:36:12the manipulation

00:36:13and brainwashing

00:36:14the manipulation

00:36:15Yes, it is.

00:36:16and it means

00:36:16the capacity

00:36:17to offer you

00:36:18arguments

00:36:18to that person

00:36:20in such a way

00:36:20that changes his behavior

00:36:21in some direction

00:36:22or in some sense

00:36:23so

00:36:24They know a lot about that.

00:36:25psychiatrists

00:36:26and the psychologists

00:36:26the possibilities

00:36:28wealth

00:36:28the lushness

00:36:29of aspects

00:36:30that has

00:36:30that is to say

00:36:31how a person

00:36:32is capable of changing

00:36:33to turn

00:36:34to move

00:36:35in another direction

00:36:36that subject

00:36:37and then there is

00:36:38the manipulation

00:36:39biological

00:36:40What is washing?

00:36:41of brain

00:36:41which gives rise

00:36:42that there is

00:36:42one aspect

00:36:44biological

00:36:44or biochemical

00:36:45that is to say

00:36:45based on sedatives

00:36:47tranquilizers

00:36:49psycho-relaxants

00:36:49major sedatives

00:36:51orally

00:36:52intramuscular route

00:36:53or intravenously

00:36:54and all that

00:36:55aid

00:36:56both from the point

00:36:57from a psychological point of view

00:36:58as from the point

00:36:58from a biological point of view

00:36:59to occur

00:37:01a clear change

00:37:01and ostensible

00:37:02I think it arrives

00:37:03to the point even

00:37:04Santiago

00:37:05if there are reports

00:37:06that tell the story

00:37:07from some doctors

00:37:08who went too far

00:37:09even in the project

00:37:10MK Ultra

00:37:10and they even left

00:37:11like a hard drive

00:37:13completely empty

00:37:14the brain

00:37:15of their patients

00:37:15If that's the story

00:37:17from the doctor

00:37:17Ewan Cameron

00:37:18he used

00:37:19to experiment

00:37:20to their patients

00:37:21many of her patients

00:37:22generally women

00:37:23they reached him

00:37:24by cases

00:37:25severe depression

00:37:26some mild schizophrenia

00:37:28and he

00:37:29logically

00:37:30well

00:37:31I was telling the family

00:37:33that she had to confine them

00:37:34that she had to hospitalize them

00:37:35to carry them out

00:37:36a treatment

00:37:36But what I didn't suspect

00:37:37the family

00:37:38was what kind

00:37:38the treatment was

00:37:39and of course

00:37:40cured them

00:37:41the problem

00:37:41was that

00:37:42during the weeks

00:37:43of that treatment

00:37:44Dr. Ewan Cameron

00:37:45I had deleted them

00:37:47full

00:37:47the mind

00:37:48And when I say deleted

00:37:48full

00:37:49not only

00:37:50the memories

00:37:51identity

00:37:52the name

00:37:52but to these women

00:37:54They had to be taught

00:37:55to talk

00:37:55to walk

00:37:56Let's eat

00:37:58that is to say

00:37:58were real

00:38:00human babies

00:38:01of 30

00:38:0240 years old

00:38:03which

00:38:03It's a true atrocity.

00:38:06and yet

00:38:06after several civil trials

00:38:09for many years

00:38:10until retirement

00:38:11Dr. Ewan Cameron

00:38:12He continued practicing medicine

00:38:13There was a movie

00:38:14very successful

00:38:15which was called

00:38:16Conspiracy

00:38:16which starred

00:38:18Mel Gibson

00:38:19There are some scenes

00:38:20quite hard

00:38:21by the way

00:38:21that they were trying to recreate

00:38:23the alleged torture

00:38:24brainwashing

00:38:25and manipulation

00:38:26of the will

00:38:27from Project MK Ultra

00:38:28please guys

00:38:29Don't do that

00:38:30please

00:38:33please

00:38:46what's that?

00:38:49Brain syrup

00:38:51No

00:38:52No

00:38:53No

00:38:54syrup no

00:38:54please

00:38:55For God's sake

00:38:56Don't do it

00:38:57No

00:38:59No

00:39:00No

00:39:02please

00:39:03Don't do it

00:39:06No

00:39:11No

00:39:11has given me

00:39:12syrup

00:39:12Tell me who you've been talking to.

00:39:14He gave me syrup

00:39:15formerly Santiago Camacho

00:39:16has spoken the word

00:39:17programmed killers

00:39:19Did Santiago go that far?

00:39:20this is

00:39:21a secret agent

00:39:22a person

00:39:23that during

00:39:25for a few weeks

00:39:26a few months

00:39:27your brain

00:39:28It was washed

00:39:28It was completely programmed

00:39:30and when he let go

00:39:31in his civilian life

00:39:32I had no knowledge

00:39:34that this had happened

00:39:35I saw

00:39:37She was a human recorder.

00:39:38I saw

00:39:38I was listening

00:39:39I could even

00:39:40with a control word

00:39:42or with

00:39:42or with a stimulus

00:39:44execute

00:39:45a program of actions

00:39:46but

00:39:46He didn't even know

00:39:48that had been subjected

00:39:49to that process

00:39:49it was therefore

00:39:50the perfect secret agent

00:39:51because if he was captured

00:39:53I couldn't say anything

00:39:54because I didn't know

00:39:55absolutely nothing

00:39:56And it's curious.

00:39:57because

00:39:57some

00:39:58of the cases

00:39:59of murders

00:40:01of assassinations

00:40:02in the United States

00:40:03most famous

00:40:04well

00:40:04both in the case

00:40:06by Lee Harvey Oswald

00:40:07in the Kennedy case

00:40:07as in the case

00:40:08from Sirham

00:40:09Sirham

00:40:10in the case

00:40:11of his brother

00:40:11by Robert Kennedy

00:40:12They show a pathology

00:40:14in fact

00:40:14the killer

00:40:16by Robert Kennedy

00:40:16he was able to be questioned

00:40:18and in fact

00:40:18He/She fulfilled

00:40:19served sentence

00:40:20and forensic psychiatrists

00:40:22who interrogated him

00:40:23It really catches their attention

00:40:23two things

00:40:24entered

00:40:25in a trance state

00:40:26in a state of hypnosis

00:40:27with astonishing ease

00:40:28as if it had been

00:40:29hypnotized

00:40:30a large number of times

00:40:31and was very used to it

00:40:32to the process

00:40:33and in that state of hypnosis

00:40:34when the subject

00:40:35He no longer lies

00:40:36He was talking about interrogations

00:40:38strangers

00:40:39of a man with a pipe

00:40:40the one he called

00:40:41the colonel

00:40:42who asked him

00:40:44constantly

00:40:44and above all

00:40:45It made him hate

00:40:46to Robert Kennedy

00:40:48It is true that some

00:40:49of these killers

00:40:50that you have named

00:40:51that suddenly

00:40:52They have destroyed great icons

00:40:54of the 20th century

00:40:54They had some elements

00:40:56in common

00:40:56who knows if it's related

00:40:57With or without MK Ultra

00:40:58For example

00:40:58certain books

00:40:59Yes, indeed

00:41:00There is a very famous story

00:41:02that even in the movie

00:41:03that we have seen before

00:41:04in conspiracy

00:41:04It is included as one of the elements

00:41:06of the plot

00:41:06who is the guardian

00:41:08in rye

00:41:09Salinger's work

00:41:09indeed

00:41:10Salinger

00:41:11who is a character in himself

00:41:13to try apart

00:41:14because it has a life

00:41:14very mysterious

00:41:15In fact, it's the only one

00:41:16novel he writes

00:41:17then he lives in seclusion

00:41:18the rest of his life

00:41:20like a complete hermit

00:41:22But it's curious.

00:41:23because, for example,

00:41:24in the cases

00:41:25of

00:41:26the killer

00:41:28by John Lennon

00:41:29by Chapman

00:41:30this book

00:41:31He carried it with him

00:41:33and in fact

00:41:34appears to be

00:41:34who carried it

00:41:36at the moment

00:41:37of the murder

00:41:38but even

00:41:38when there was

00:41:39the attempted murder

00:41:40by Ronald Reagan

00:41:42also

00:41:43this alleged murderer

00:41:43which also curiously

00:41:45fit the profile

00:41:46of what could be

00:41:48a programmed killer

00:41:49for example

00:41:50There is a season

00:41:50of his life

00:41:51very dark

00:41:52What happens?

00:41:53in a boarding school

00:41:56paramilitary

00:41:57in a species

00:41:57of military academy

00:41:58a time

00:41:58and of which

00:41:59It is unknown

00:41:59absolutely nothing

00:42:00Well, this character

00:42:03also

00:42:04curiously

00:42:04not only

00:42:05He is an avid reader

00:42:06of the guardian

00:42:07in rye

00:42:08but also

00:42:08He carries it with him

00:42:10the day of the attack

00:42:11he reached the same book

00:42:13This makes sense.

00:42:15We were talking earlier

00:42:16of a stimulus

00:42:17a stimulus

00:42:17that somehow

00:42:19trigger the conditioning

00:42:21through hypnosis

00:42:22and drugs

00:42:23has gotten into the subject

00:42:24It may well be

00:42:24For example

00:42:25to receive a certain

00:42:26phone call

00:42:27But if you want to be

00:42:28more unequivocal

00:42:29that better

00:42:30that leave

00:42:30in the mail

00:42:31maybe

00:42:32a known object

00:42:33a book

00:42:34of a particular edition

00:42:36that when you open it

00:42:37automatically

00:42:38trigger that memory

00:42:39unconscious

00:42:40and make that program

00:42:42execute

00:42:42as if it were

00:42:43practically a robot

00:42:44books

00:42:45perhaps highlighted letters

00:42:46We'll never know

00:42:47what we will know

00:42:48is that the project

00:42:49MK Ultra

00:42:49It wasn't unique.

00:42:50It wasn't just something

00:42:51typical of the CIA

00:42:52and from the United States

00:42:53There have been other countries

00:42:54who were also pioneers

00:42:55sad pioneers

00:42:56He told us about it

00:42:57Dr. Enrique Rojas

00:42:58Well, today we know

00:43:00that there has been

00:43:01above all

00:43:02in the cold war

00:43:04in the communist world

00:43:05and then in prisons

00:43:07there have been

00:43:07many things of this kind

00:43:09that is to say

00:43:09There are experiments

00:43:10such as what are called

00:43:11the Black Room

00:43:11which is to lock up a subject

00:43:13in a space without light

00:43:16for 48 or 72 hours

00:43:19and that subject

00:43:21in a place without light

00:43:22without any communication

00:43:23a sound effect occurs

00:43:25of thought

00:43:26that is to say

00:43:26starts to hallucinate

00:43:28They tell outrageous things

00:43:30outlandish

00:43:31But many appear

00:43:32in official documents

00:43:33rumors are created

00:43:34previously

00:43:35now they are a reality

00:43:35officially verified

00:43:37Santiago, thank you very much.

00:43:38to you

00:43:38Of course

00:43:39that many rough edges remain

00:43:40still

00:43:40to understand

00:43:41of this Mecca Ultra

00:43:42and from these documents

00:43:43but

00:43:44as I said

00:43:45real documents

00:43:46officers

00:43:47and now publicly available

00:43:48It must be acknowledged

00:43:49that the American people

00:43:50It also has

00:43:51these great things

00:43:52these miseries

00:43:53They occurred in the 1950s

00:43:54And now at least

00:43:55we can know

00:43:56or part of them

00:43:57or its entirety

00:43:58what we are going to learn now

00:43:59It's the news

00:44:00this week's

00:44:01It's been seven days

00:44:02full of discoveries

00:44:03and discoveries

00:44:26Mexico is a country

00:44:28that always throws

00:44:29new surprises

00:44:30archaeological

00:44:30The last one is a surprise

00:44:32capital

00:44:33Carmen

00:44:33Yeah

00:44:34because a group

00:44:34of archaeologists

00:44:35has discovered

00:44:35an immense

00:44:36pre-Hispanic pyramid

00:44:38from 1500 years ago

00:44:40fairly

00:44:40on a hill in the city

00:44:42the star hill

00:44:43this pyramid

00:44:44It was built

00:44:45by the same people

00:44:46that they performed

00:44:47the one from Teotihuacan

00:44:48between the year 400

00:44:49and 500

00:44:50B.C.

00:44:51and there is certainty

00:44:52that it was used for

00:44:53for ceremonial purposes

00:44:54the construction

00:44:55that has a height

00:44:5618 meters

00:44:57and three bodies

00:44:58with slopes

00:44:58and platforms

00:44:59150 by 120 meters

00:45:01at its base

00:45:02has been damaged

00:45:03due to some buildings

00:45:04that have been carried out

00:45:05around

00:45:06but it is still preserved

00:45:07a low stone wall

00:45:08and a small room

00:45:09where they are observed

00:45:10a series of gaps

00:45:11on the walls

00:45:12for placement

00:45:13of offerings

00:45:14This is a discovery

00:45:15unique and that was

00:45:16at this point

00:45:17of history

00:45:18in the city

00:45:19from Mexico

00:45:20the following news

00:45:21This does not happen in Mexico.

00:45:22but it has a lot to do with it

00:45:23with that attitude

00:45:24so strange

00:45:25of the human being

00:45:25of sacrificing one's neighbor

00:45:26well yes

00:45:27a few weeks ago

00:45:28and by chance

00:45:29as usually happens

00:45:30with these findings

00:45:31a pastor

00:45:32found

00:45:33in the town

00:45:34Gansu China

00:45:35125 human skulls

00:45:38apparently

00:45:39the bones

00:45:40were

00:45:40inside

00:45:41from a bag

00:45:41plastic

00:45:42that was lying there

00:45:43in a ravine

00:45:44from a mountainous area

00:45:45of the autonomous county

00:45:46Tibetan

00:45:47from Tianzu

00:45:47after the initial analyses

00:45:49has been proven

00:45:50that most

00:45:50of the skulls

00:45:51They have been cut off

00:45:52the top

00:45:53while others

00:45:53They still have skin

00:45:55and hair

00:45:56where they do agree

00:45:57the specialists

00:45:58is in the heads

00:45:59They were separated

00:46:00of the body

00:46:00when individuals

00:46:01They were already dead

00:46:03the experts

00:46:04have denied

00:46:04the rumors

00:46:05that are running

00:46:06that the remains

00:46:06come from various hospitals

00:46:08and that the doctors

00:46:09they would have withdrawn

00:46:09the brains

00:46:10for optional purposes

00:46:11since the investigations

00:46:13show absence

00:46:14of medical techniques

00:46:15for decapitation

00:46:16and signals

00:46:17of mortal wounds

00:46:18Of course

00:46:19which is an image

00:46:20dreadful

00:46:21something kinder

00:46:22It's another discovery

00:46:23what does that have to do with it

00:46:23with some

00:46:24of the first inhabitants

00:46:25of this blue planet

00:46:26and they have done it

00:46:27a team of scientists

00:46:28from the university

00:46:29from Chicago

00:46:30have found

00:46:30in the Arctic Circle

00:46:32remains of a species

00:46:33ancient fish

00:46:34that populated the earth

00:46:35375 million years ago

00:46:37the remains

00:46:38of this new species

00:46:39called

00:46:39titalic roseae

00:46:41were found

00:46:42in a block of ice

00:46:43They have fins

00:46:44scales

00:46:44skulls

00:46:45similarities

00:46:45to the fish

00:46:46but also

00:46:47They have heads

00:46:48crocodile

00:46:49neck

00:46:49and ribs

00:46:50which are similar

00:46:51to those of terrestrial animals

00:46:53This would prove

00:46:53that could have existed

00:46:54an animal

00:46:55who lived

00:46:55both in the water

00:46:56as on earth

00:46:57And speaking of news

00:46:59interesting

00:46:59There are some that run

00:47:00like rumors

00:47:01and are the cause

00:47:02by popular demand

00:47:03in this case

00:47:04many friends

00:47:05of fourth millennium

00:47:05they asked us

00:47:06that we would attend

00:47:06to a place

00:47:07who has a reputation

00:47:08Delighted

00:47:08like so many

00:47:10other sanatoriums

00:47:10hospitals

00:47:11that are already abandoned

00:47:12well the assumptions

00:47:14hypothetical spectra

00:47:15strange voices

00:47:16It seems they've made a deep impression.

00:47:17in people

00:47:18that lives around

00:47:19about the Hispanic

00:47:20in Guadarrama

00:47:20Many stories are told

00:47:21and a team

00:47:22of fourth millennium

00:47:23has been there

00:47:24spending a night

00:47:25trying to find out

00:47:26that there is truth

00:47:26And what about fiction?

00:47:27I predict

00:47:28interesting surprises

00:47:30after the advertising

00:47:31But first

00:47:32we are going to embark

00:47:32on a different trip

00:47:33or rather

00:47:34we're going to take

00:47:35a dramatic train car

00:47:37because history

00:47:37from tunnel number 20

00:47:38it is above all

00:47:39a tragedy

00:47:40but a tragedy

00:47:41accompanied by

00:47:41ghost reviewers

00:47:43of omens of death

00:47:44of visions

00:47:45from beyond

00:47:46all that happened

00:47:47in a narrow place

00:47:48I invite you to get to know it

00:47:49Tunnel number 20

00:47:51It's a day

00:47:52one day

00:47:53and one day

00:47:55No

00:47:56No

00:47:57No

00:47:58No

00:47:59No

00:48:25Subscribe to the channel!

00:48:30Can we predict the future? Can we announce what is about to happen?

00:48:36I'm not referring to those people who read tarot cards, who claim to know everything, and who offer consultations.

00:48:42at a certain time at a certain time as if they possessed a power that the rest of us do not even understand.

00:48:47No, not at all. I'm referring to omens.

00:48:50Something that seems much more natural, that perhaps has happened to all of us at some point, and that is indeed

00:48:55surprising for its sometimes millimeter-perfect accuracy.

00:48:58People who suddenly woke up in the middle of nightmares feeling that they were really going to

00:49:04occur the following morning.

00:49:06We've been told many stories. Some clearly lacked evidence, documents, or arguments to support their credibility.

00:49:12However, I assure you that the story of tunnel number 20 is one of those that will leave you speechless.

00:49:17speaks.

00:49:18Do you want to meet her? Do you want to delve into this darkness, never a truer word spoken, of that journey?

00:49:22We need to reclaim time.

00:49:24Let's go back 60 years.

00:49:26Let's go to an area like the Old Town.

00:49:28There, the impossible happened.

00:49:30But if you like, we'll first analyze an accident, a misfortune, a tragedy, and then the surprise.

00:49:37Tunnel number 20.

00:49:45The Death Train.

00:49:46The Correo 421 express train had left Madrid on January 2, 1944, bound for La Coruña.

00:49:57It was Christmas time and families awaited the arrival of the compoy in the sapeaderos.

00:50:03The train leaves Madrid on the night of December 2nd.

00:50:07He arrived in Valladolid at a quarter to eight in the morning on the 3rd.

00:50:10It's already behind schedule.

00:50:12It is a day when many people return to their homes because of the Christmas holidays.

00:50:18And the train is packed with people.

00:50:20We're talking about a day, according to what we're told, or have been told, a gray day, a day with

00:50:26fog, from an icy day.

00:50:28And that might also affect visibility in the area, right? Possibly.

00:50:36The Mail Express consisted of 11 units, with an American steam-powered locomotive at the front.

00:50:43Between 600 and 1000 people were traveling.

00:50:45Among them were military personnel and the players of the Betanzos football team, who were returning from a match.

00:50:52Once in León, the train stops before reaching the steep Manzanal pass.

00:50:57The operators discover that it has a braking problem.

00:51:00But they are forced to continue marching.

00:51:03It is essential that the correspondence reaches its destination.

00:51:08Therefore, it begins to descend the Manzanal pass, with a single locomotive, which was precisely the one it had

00:51:14brake problems.

00:51:16As it goes down, that train becomes a runaway horse.

00:51:20The runaway locomotive, now down, and with a distress whistle blaring, went through the part that is

00:51:30from the tower next to the track,

00:51:33They heard perfectly that it was going where it was going, to crash.

00:51:40Meanwhile, down in the valley, at the Torre del Bierzo station, the stoker Alfonso Álvarez and his

00:51:46My colleague and I were operating a shunting locomotive,

00:51:51oblivious to the misfortune that was about to befall them.

00:51:54And then we picked up the loaded train, which we had left there on another track, and we went along the track

00:52:011,

00:52:02And I remember what the stationmaster told us,

00:52:05Hey, hurry up, the mail is coming, of course the mail is coming.

00:52:09While we were there, we felt a very strong impact, and we were thrown out.

00:52:14And we stopped as we came out of the tunnel, we launched out, and with the machine's brake and the counter-speed that

00:52:22We saw it, we were able to stop.

00:52:24The impact has been strong, but apparently there are only a few injured.

00:52:29Some express mail train cars have become stuck inside tunnel number 20.

00:52:35Meanwhile, Renfe workers are assessing the situation, unaware that the worst was yet to come.

00:52:41A Santa Fe steam locomotive is approaching at full speed from the opposite direction.

00:52:46And then, my cousin who was coming up above saw the Santa Fe coming,

00:52:51He started shouting, "Oh, saves, get out of there! Get out of there, here comes the Holy Faith!"

00:52:56And indeed, I left, because there was a headquarters, I arrived without a shirt, without pants, and I had to go home.

00:53:03because it was all scratched up.

00:53:04However, my companion left through another exit, but the 60-year-old gentleman...

00:53:08The fellow train driver dies instantly, and inside tunnel number 20, all hell breaks loose.

00:53:15The second convoy I made against them surprised them inside, and that's when the big incident occurred.

00:53:21massacre,

00:53:22Because, well, people who were helping died there, apart from the people who were on the first train.

00:53:27accident victims.

00:53:28So, what happens is a great tragedy, because a kind of oven is created inside the

00:53:33tunnel, from which it is almost impossible to escape, right?

00:53:37There was no help left, there was nothing, because they were two pine wagons, made of wood.

00:53:43And if there's a fire, well, you tell me, those who died, nobody knows, and they know it,

00:53:53Nobody has said it.

00:53:54That tunnel number 20 became a veritable crematorium, didn't it?

00:53:58Note that the following day, on January 4th, the North of Castile newspaper published that for the moment there was

00:54:0426 dead,

00:54:05And even the survivors have stated that they heard gunshots.

00:54:10because we imagine they were produced by the military personnel who were riding on that train,

00:54:15who preferred to die that way more quickly, rather than die in the flames.

00:54:22More than 60 years have passed, and the number of people who lost their lives is still not known for certain.

00:54:29Life inside tunnel number 20.

00:54:32Joaquín Nieves, a journalist who at the time collaborated with the Mencheta agency,

00:54:36He quickly approached the scene of the incident.

00:54:39The report they gave me was about 50, 50, 60 deaths at that initial time.

00:54:47With that figure, it was the one that I, of course, the one they were giving me as official, the one I considered.

00:54:51I wasn't getting it from official sources, but from the health services.

00:54:55I saw that they saw more boxes there with dead bodies, but the wounded, as soon as they were taken out, well

00:55:02They were already taking them from one place to another.

00:55:03Yes, when we started the project we set out to try and determine this number of deaths,

00:55:11because it appeared in the Guinness Book of Records for many years as the accident with the highest number of victims in history

00:55:17of the railway,

00:55:17and it appears to have around 800 victims.

00:55:22The number of deaths was completely unknown.

00:55:26After much research, over time, some say that if they didn't reach 250,

00:55:33And others place it between 250 and 500, but the exact truth is not known, nor will it ever be known, of course.

00:55:40In 2003, the director of the Eferramón de Fontecha agency won a Goya Award

00:55:46after having produced a short documentary film called Tunnel Number 20.

00:55:51It was the first time in 60 years that anyone had addressed this tragic event, which had been relegated to the

00:55:58forgot.

00:55:59The inhabitants of El Bierzo remember it as a balm that healed some old wounds.

00:56:06I had some very curious anecdotes about people who, after having spoken, and often because they hadn't even realized it.

00:56:13We were recording them, they finished and said, well, but of course, now you're not going to record anything for me, are you?

00:56:17And I say, no, we've recorded everything, they say, no, no, no, but everything I've told you, no

00:56:21It can be counted,

00:56:22that this cannot be told, that you cannot post it.

00:56:24Why not? We can't tell it because we've never been able to tell it, right?

00:56:28This concludes the chronicle of the tragedy, a misfortune that remains shrouded in mystery and obscurity.

00:56:33Because to this day we still don't know how many people lost their lives inside that grim tunnel

00:56:39number 20.

00:56:40But you may be wondering what this has to do with what I was announcing to you.

00:56:43A premonition? Predicting the future? Foretelling events?

00:56:47They're going to find out now. It's surprising.

00:56:50The second part of our report, produced by our colleague Luis Álvarez,

00:56:54Discover a story that remained hidden and overshadowed for many years.

00:56:59Someone had seen something. Someone had glimpsed something two days earlier.

00:57:09January 3, 1944 will forever be remembered in the minds of the people of León as a hellish day.

00:57:16Most people remain silent and do not yet dare to address something incredible that happened a few days before.

00:57:24An event that spread like wildfire and that many linked to a prophecy or a real ghost.

00:57:33On December 31st, according to the statement of Mr. Pablo Guerrero, a citizen of recognized standing from the town of Estorga

00:57:41de León,

00:57:42This man went to the headquarters of the Civil Guard, the Rural Civil Guard, to the eleventh headquarters,

00:57:47and stated that on December 31st, he was riding on that train and at the Valladolid station he

00:57:53A ticket inspector boarded,

00:57:55a strange inspector, an inspector in his railwayman's overcoat, with a basket in which he was presumed to be carrying

00:58:02the afternoon snack,

00:58:03and what he told the people who were in that train car, including Mr. Pablo Herrero,

00:58:10that an accident had occurred in the tunnels of Torre del Bierzo.

00:58:14This happened three days earlier, on December 31st.

00:58:19Despite how shocking that warning was, nobody remembers the face of that individual.

00:58:24The face of someone who, in despair, announced a tragedy that had not yet occurred.

00:58:31There were many witnesses, and there was no doubt.

00:58:34Someone seemed to have stepped forward in time, like a harbinger of a grim future,

00:58:39then to get off and disappear with the same mystery as their arrival.

00:58:45Following the strange complaint, the special judge for railway accidents,

00:58:49orders an investigation into several station chiefs,

00:58:52with the intention of identifying the phantom inspector.

00:58:56The first thing that comes to mind is that he might have had something to do with the accident.

00:59:00If it hadn't been some kind of premonition, it would have been an act of sabotage.

00:59:06We are talking about 1944, when the Franco regime had just been established.

00:59:10immersed in the midst of World War II,

00:59:13And at that time there were many people who were not happy with the authoritarian regime.

00:59:17which had been established in Spain, and where sabotage was carried out, the maquis had a strong presence.

00:59:24The subsequent investigation will rule out an act of sabotage against the convoy.

00:59:28Despite the efforts of the authorities,

00:59:31The whereabouts of that strange character dressed as a ticket inspector were never discovered.

00:59:35that night predicted the accident.

00:59:38Too many people fit that description,

00:59:41Therefore, that investigation was eventually abandoned.

00:59:44The subject could not be identified.

00:59:46Who was it?

00:59:48How did no one manage to locate him?

00:59:50Where did he flee to?

00:59:52And what was he trying to achieve that night with his fleeting warning?

00:59:55How could anyone describe the tragedy that was about to happen

00:59:59at that precise point on the map?

01:00:02Could it be a premonitory dream or a conscious hallucination?

01:00:08Or let's imagine that that strange inspector traveled three days later,

01:00:13on the real hell train, which later crashed in Torre del Bierzo?

01:00:18And was that a prelude to what would later become his death?

01:00:22Today nobody comes here to buy their tickets.

01:00:26Somehow the tower station was cursed forever

01:00:29and ruin took over the place.

01:00:33Tunnel number 20 was demolished a long time ago,

01:00:36but neither pickaxes nor excavators

01:00:39They have been able to overcome the unsettling memory of that ghostly visitor.

01:00:44A strange, impossible memory,

01:00:48that remains alive among these harsh mining valleys.

01:01:00Who was that phantom inspector?

01:01:02Why does nobody remember his face?

01:01:03Why did he warn the people who were on that train?

01:01:06Had he seen it before, or did he actually have inside information?

01:01:09of what was about to happen?

01:01:11Luis Álvarez is the author of this surprising research.

01:01:14Luis, good evening, welcome.

01:01:15Good evening, sir.

01:01:16Incidentally, there is extensive documentation.

01:01:18Here, there's no trickery or deception.

01:01:20You have it there, an official complaint to the Civil Guard,

01:01:22to Command No. 11.

01:01:24Yes, it's a document, Iker.

01:01:25as we have so often managed to recover from the archives,

01:01:28the files,

01:01:29and it is a complaint signed in León,

01:01:32in Command No. 11 of the Rural Civil Guard.

01:01:36And well, it recounts that on the 31st,

01:01:39what we have seen in the documentary,

01:01:40On the 31st, he boards a train at Madrid's North Station,

01:01:44A train leaves from there,

01:01:45and at Valladolid station, at 11:30 at night,

01:01:48A curious character gets on,

01:01:50a strange character dressed as a railway worker,

01:01:52which warns that there will be an accident,

01:01:55a very serious accident,

01:01:56Furthermore, in his own words,

01:01:57from the statement of the person filing the complaint,

01:01:59who is Don Pablo Herrero,

01:02:00He says that at the Torre station,

01:02:01and in the tunnels,

01:02:02A very serious accident had occurred.

01:02:04What had already happened?

01:02:05That's right, it had happened three days earlier, too.

01:02:07It is written here,

01:02:08We have the copy,

01:02:10This is it,

01:02:11And, of course,

01:02:12It is still a document.

01:02:14An experimenter X,

01:02:15somehow.

01:02:16Clear,

01:02:16Perhaps it somehow validates what has happened so many times before,

01:02:19that before a serious accident,

01:02:22before a great catastrophe,

01:02:24let it happen, then,

01:02:25impossible,

01:02:26that a person can predict it,

01:02:28I can swear to it.

01:02:28Here is a document that supports this.

01:02:30But the only thing we could confirm,

01:02:32and also with this document,

01:02:33As we were saying,

01:02:33He was a reviewer,

01:02:34inspector's uniform,

01:02:35with a inspector's overcoat,

01:02:37vintage,

01:02:38and that he had given a warning,

01:02:40And in fact,

01:02:41besides,

01:02:41Look,

01:02:41This is a very curious topic.

01:02:42Panic broke out inside the train car.

01:02:44For one simple reason,

01:02:45Iker,

01:02:45All the people inside were also traveling to Galicia,

01:02:48It's the same line that goes from the North Station to Galicia,

01:02:51and many of them,

01:02:52I imagine they had families,

01:02:53They would fear for the lives of some of their relatives,

01:02:55No?

01:02:56It's strange,

01:02:57No one was ever able to identify a man dressed as a ticket inspector.

01:03:00A tour was given of the original Renfe railway of that time,

01:03:04This man never appeared.

01:03:05We need to understand,

01:03:06Iker,

01:03:06We're talking about the year 1944,

01:03:08which could very easily have been an act of sabotage,

01:03:11And in those years nobody believed in paranormal phenomena,

01:03:14and even less so in predictions and premonitions.

01:03:16So,

01:03:16The most plausible explanation would have been that it was an attack.

01:03:19sabotage on the tracks.

01:03:21So,

01:03:21That's why an investigation is opened and Rome and Santiago are moving.

01:03:24to try to find this person.

01:03:26But the fact is that in the end,

01:03:27not only is it not found,

01:03:29Instead, all the media and station managers are mobilized.

01:03:32from at least 10 stations in the area,

01:03:34from Valladolid to León,

01:03:36all those that are nearby,

01:03:37and they find absolutely nothing.

01:03:39That's perhaps why it's the story of the phantom hill.

01:03:41Luis, thank you very much, mate.

01:03:44Nobody knows exactly how many people died,

01:03:46Nor does anyone know the identity or whereabouts of that man.

01:03:49"Nobody's face," many said.

01:03:51Nobody kept her,

01:03:52No one could identify him.

01:03:53Who was he?

01:03:54What was he trying to achieve?

01:03:55The history of omens,

01:03:56of premonitions,

01:03:57to guess what is about to happen,

01:03:59It's not new.

01:04:00This case is from 1944.

01:04:02There are others closer,

01:04:05equally surprising,

01:04:06Carmen,

01:04:06some such famous cases,

01:04:08unfortunately,

01:04:09like the Twin Towers,

01:04:109/11,

01:04:11which I believe is the pinnacle of information

01:04:13from people who saw something days before.

01:04:16Yeah,

01:04:16It also usually happens,

01:04:17Iker,

01:04:18that when a great tragedy is about to occur,

01:04:20months or even earlier,

01:04:21but especially in the days leading up to it,

01:04:23the week before that event occurs,

01:04:26There are a lot of people calling saying they have predictions

01:04:29or who dreams of the disaster that will come true a few days later.

01:04:339/11 is one of the cases with the most premonitions.

01:04:36and more dreams actually confirmed,

01:04:39because there is a record...

01:04:40Confirmed.

01:04:41Indeed,

01:04:42There is a record of premonitions in the United States

01:04:44in which, if you, for example,

01:04:46During a dream you see a vision,

01:04:49You have an image of a disaster,

01:04:50You can call yourself and say,

01:04:52Listen,

01:04:52I have dreamed this in my visions,

01:04:54I have witnessed such a tragedy.

01:04:56And indeed,

01:04:57Many entries are recorded on 9/11,

01:05:0057 premonitions and 38 dreams,

01:05:03just the week before it happens

01:05:05the attack on the Twin Towers.

01:05:07And they saw this?

01:05:07Did you see these images that are already an icon of the 21st century?

01:05:11They don't describe the event as it actually happens,

01:05:14But they do provide a lot of data.

01:05:15For example,

01:05:16a sensitive on a television program

01:05:18a few days before,

01:05:19He says he sees a tower in Manhattan.

01:05:21that a plane crashes into it

01:05:23and he was talking about the second tower.

01:05:25Others,

01:05:25instead,

01:05:25They say they see many llamas

01:05:27in some very tall buildings

01:05:29and that they see people even jumping out of windows.

01:05:31The scene that followed.

01:05:32Indeed,

01:05:33scenes that we would later see internationally

01:05:36and that they would give us all blood.

01:05:39There is also an American child.

01:05:40that just the day before,

01:05:43the night before,

01:05:43September 10th,

01:05:44He says he has a vision,

01:05:46enters a state that his parents do not understand

01:05:49and sees an image

01:05:50which he views as World War III.

01:05:53The next day he tells his school teacher

01:05:57And this teacher,

01:05:59Look,

01:06:00I don't know why,

01:06:00was it another premonition or what?

01:06:02Call the FBI

01:06:03to provide that information

01:06:04because the child

01:06:05describe it as an attack

01:06:07and that with that, the Third World War begins.

01:06:09And this child spoke

01:06:10of a gigantic building

01:06:12or a couple of buildings

01:06:13and I thought it was Chicago.

01:06:15I didn't know exactly either.

01:06:16the population,

01:06:17but the FBI found

01:06:18that kind of investigation

01:06:20which ended in nothing,

01:06:21dead end,

01:06:21Never a truer word spoken,

01:06:22on the topic at hand.

01:06:239/11,

01:06:24you were saying, Carmen,

01:06:2557 dreams and premonitions.

01:06:2757 premonitions

01:06:28and 38 dreams

01:06:30then,

01:06:31then,

01:06:32Unfortunately,

01:06:32in a few days,

01:06:33they come true

01:06:34with the terrible attacks

01:06:35against the Twin Towers.

01:06:37We've talked about children

01:06:37And that's because many times

01:06:38the children

01:06:39They seem to make sense,

01:06:40They seem to have something,

01:06:41an aura,

01:06:42Of course,

01:06:42wonderful,

01:06:43that over the years

01:06:44Of course

01:06:45it is stripping itself away,

01:06:46It's moving further away from us.

01:06:46There are many incomprehensible things

01:06:48in infancy.

01:06:49One of them would be

01:06:49your ability

01:06:50to notice things

01:06:51that at first glance

01:06:52They are not noticeable.

01:06:53There is a tragedy

01:06:54tremendous,

01:06:56Aberfan.

01:06:57Indeed,

01:06:58Iker.

01:06:58In this case,

01:06:59She is also a girl.

01:07:00She is nine years old,

01:07:01His name is Eril May Jones

01:07:02and a few days before

01:07:03that it occurs

01:07:04a tragedy

01:07:05that would almost end

01:07:06with a people

01:07:07full.

01:07:08She says

01:07:08who doesn't want to go to school

01:07:09because he has seen

01:07:10like a large black mass

01:07:12lunges

01:07:12against all children

01:07:13who are in that school.

01:07:16Indeed,

01:07:16this event

01:07:17It happened in 1996,

01:07:19October 20th,

01:07:21And it is in this town

01:07:22miner,

01:07:22in Aberfan,

01:07:24well, what it is

01:07:25an entire mountain

01:07:26coal

01:07:26lunges

01:07:27against the people,

01:07:28It ends completely

01:07:30in the dark

01:07:31just as he dreams

01:07:31the girl

01:07:32and she is a

01:07:33of the 140 dead,

01:07:35most of them children,

01:07:36because all children

01:07:37from the school

01:07:37die

01:07:38in that terrible...

01:07:39I mean,

01:07:39that she dreamed it

01:07:40but they forced him

01:07:41to go to school.

01:07:42Yeah,

01:07:42because at first

01:07:43the parents

01:07:44They don't have to believe

01:07:45what the children say,

01:07:47what children dream about,

01:07:48we contemplate it

01:07:49like just another dream,

01:07:50not as a premonition

01:07:51that something is going to happen

01:07:52and even more so when this girl

01:07:53He had no power

01:07:54that characterized her.

01:07:56It's a coincidence,

01:07:58These are the whims of fate,

01:07:59Of course

01:08:00we refer again

01:08:01to one of the greats

01:08:01icons of mystery,

01:08:03the Titanic,

01:08:03which has another part

01:08:04also relative

01:08:05to premonitions.

01:08:07Terrible event

01:08:07the one that occurs

01:08:08April 14

01:08:09of 1912,

01:08:10the one from the Titanic.

01:08:12Here we are seeing

01:08:12one of the images

01:08:14submarines

01:08:15that are captured

01:08:15And that's because

01:08:16in these tragedies,

01:08:18As I said at the beginning,

01:08:20There are many people

01:08:20that even

01:08:21trips are cancelled

01:08:22because they have dreams

01:08:24or premonitions.

01:08:24not because of something physical

01:08:26and a logical argument

01:08:27that has arisen

01:08:28another problem,

01:08:29but because they feel

01:08:29that they don't have to embark there.

01:08:31that something is going to happen.

01:08:32Many times even

01:08:33come in dreams

01:08:35as, in this case,

01:08:36The ship is sinking.

01:08:37To such an extent

01:08:38that are done years later

01:08:40some jobs

01:08:41like the professor's

01:08:42Ian Stevenson,

01:08:44that it collects

01:08:45step by step

01:08:46the statements

01:08:48of the survivors.

01:08:49They tell him

01:08:50that many

01:08:51of the characters

01:08:53important

01:08:54and of the people

01:08:55who were traveling

01:08:55on this ship

01:08:57what they said

01:08:58that there was nobody there

01:08:58capable of sinking it,

01:09:00Well, at dinners,

01:09:01in the halls

01:09:01where they stopped to talk,

01:09:03They said they had had

01:09:04strange dreams

01:09:05in which they saw

01:09:06to this ship

01:09:07sink.

01:09:08But there was,

01:09:08besides,

01:09:09also

01:09:09that were collected

01:09:10testimonies

01:09:11like the one of Mr.

01:09:12Middleton,

01:09:13which is one

01:09:14of those who

01:09:15at the last minute

01:09:16decide

01:09:16do not travel

01:09:17on that ship.

01:09:18Do not travel

01:09:19because he had had

01:09:21a dream,

01:09:22I had seen a ship

01:09:23whose keel was

01:09:24pointing

01:09:24skyward

01:09:25and the other half

01:09:26It was sunken.

01:09:28He had taken out

01:09:29the tickets already

01:09:29But he says he's resigning.

01:09:31them,

01:09:31who loses money

01:09:32because that ship

01:09:33It's going to sink.

01:09:34Colin McDonnell

01:09:34also rejects

01:09:35provide their services

01:09:36as an engineer

01:09:38on this ship

01:09:39And that's what they gave him.

01:09:39a lucrative salary

01:09:40that he didn't have

01:09:41because he dreams

01:09:42several times

01:09:43and has a premonition

01:09:44that would be

01:09:45his last trip.

01:09:46So,

01:09:47many people

01:09:47he is saved

01:09:48to die

01:09:49sunk with the Titanic.

01:09:51Sad stories

01:09:52really.

01:09:52A

01:09:53that's sure

01:09:54that many remember

01:09:54It was the explosion

01:09:55of the Challenger

01:09:56in January 1986

01:09:57the disappearance

01:09:58of those

01:09:59seven cosmonauts.

01:10:00It was perhaps

01:10:01the first

01:10:01where it was installed

01:10:02or was installed

01:10:03already in London

01:10:04a phone

01:10:05collected

01:10:05of predictions

01:10:06and visions

01:10:06and he fought

01:10:07the first disastrous

01:10:08record

01:10:09in this sense.

01:10:10Many people

01:10:10saw an immense

01:10:11explosion of light

01:10:12in the middle of the blue sky.

01:10:14Occurred,

01:10:15unfortunately.

01:10:16Having reached this point

01:10:16It must be said

01:10:17that the team

01:10:17from Fourth Millennium

01:10:18obviously

01:10:19not at all

01:10:20believes in people

01:10:21that they make of seeing

01:10:22the future

01:10:22your profession

01:10:23and office

01:10:24as if this

01:10:24were

01:10:25permanently

01:10:26in one.

01:10:26But of course

01:10:27Seeing these stories

01:10:28It's hard not to believe.

01:10:29that at specific times

01:10:30can we see something

01:10:31that is beyond

01:10:32of the senses.

01:10:33And speaking of senses,

01:10:34We've put them to the test.

01:10:35Our colleague

01:10:36Gerardo Peláez

01:10:36has been in a place

01:10:38disturbing.

01:10:39Many friends from Madrid

01:10:40They were asking us for almost

01:10:41please

01:10:42that we should go

01:10:43to this enclave,

01:10:45to an abandoned sanatorium

01:10:46which, like all hospitals

01:10:48where there is no more life

01:10:48well really

01:10:49they retain a patina

01:10:50of mystery.

01:10:51It's the story

01:10:52of the lamentations

01:10:54of the Hispanic.

01:10:56In the heart of the Madrid mountains

01:10:58rises

01:10:59among rocks and bushes

01:11:00resisting

01:11:01the passage of time

01:11:02and waiting

01:11:03pass away

01:11:04one of those places

01:11:06that shakes

01:11:07just by looking at it.

01:11:08The Hispanic.

01:11:15The Hispanic

01:11:16It was a hospital

01:11:18a hospital

01:11:19dedicated

01:11:20to the sick

01:11:21of the respiratory system

01:11:23more specifically

01:11:24to tuberculosis patients.

01:11:26Its heyday

01:11:27it is located

01:11:28between the years

01:11:2850 and 60

01:11:30approximately

01:11:30In a place

01:11:32really

01:11:33favorable

01:11:34to attract here

01:11:35well to all

01:11:36those people

01:11:37who suffered

01:11:38those ailments.

01:11:40Many were

01:11:41the sick

01:11:41that healed

01:11:42taking advantage

01:11:43its enclave

01:11:43privileged

01:11:44in the heart of nature

01:11:45but not a few

01:11:47They were the tuberculosis patients

01:11:48dying

01:11:48that expired

01:11:50behind its walls.

01:11:51This is where it turns on

01:11:52the wick

01:11:53of its dark legend.

01:11:54As time went on

01:11:55of the years

01:11:56the Hispanic

01:11:57is progressively

01:11:58forgotten

01:11:59until there is left

01:12:00completely uninhabited

01:12:01becoming

01:12:03so

01:12:03in the center

01:12:04meeting

01:12:05of couples

01:12:06gangs

01:12:06and hooligans

01:12:07what do they do

01:12:08of the old hospital

01:12:09his night sanctuary.

01:12:11It began

01:12:11run

01:12:12the rumor

01:12:13justified rumor

01:12:14besides

01:12:15because they were

01:12:15many the

01:12:16the testimonies

01:12:17of people

01:12:18who claimed

01:12:20having seen

01:12:21silhouettes

01:12:22in the windows

01:12:23of the building

01:12:24already demolished

01:12:24to see

01:12:26flashes of light

01:12:27inside

01:12:28of the building

01:12:29and other phenomena

01:12:31who witnessed

01:12:31more than one person.

01:12:33Little by little

01:12:34in the gossip circles

01:12:36from Guadarrama

01:12:36they begin

01:12:37to hear stories

01:12:38references

01:12:38terrifying voices

01:12:40or strange lights

01:12:41that travel

01:12:42the old galleries

01:12:43from the sanatorium.

01:12:44As we went down

01:12:45recording

01:12:46with the microphone

01:12:48and we were talking

01:12:49among us

01:12:49is introduced

01:12:50a voice

01:12:50that is mounted

01:12:51about ours

01:12:52And what does it say?

01:12:53as follows

01:12:54Avesatán

01:12:56It is a voice

01:12:57extremely

01:12:58extremely clear

01:12:59and very audible

01:13:00The dread

01:13:01caused

01:13:01because of the legends

01:13:02from the Hispanic

01:13:03attracts groups

01:13:04satanic

01:13:05that they perform

01:13:06different rituals

01:13:07and sacrifices

01:13:08in the chapel

01:13:09of the desolate building

01:13:11Traces of blood

01:13:12and demonic graffiti

01:13:14they testify

01:13:15of the macabre acts

01:13:16that there

01:13:17took place

01:13:18We met

01:13:19remains of rituals

01:13:21satanic

01:13:22or what it seemed

01:13:23indicate

01:13:24which were remains

01:13:25of satanic rituals

01:13:25such as

01:13:26the walls

01:13:28painted with blood

01:13:29inverted crosses

01:13:31painting

01:13:32we met

01:13:33on the wall

01:13:34the walls

01:13:35of the chapel

01:13:36stained

01:13:36with hands

01:13:39impregnated

01:13:40in blood

01:13:42remains

01:13:43from the blows

01:13:44that gave

01:13:45to the animals

01:13:45to cats

01:13:46chickens

01:13:47also

01:13:48they sacrificed

01:13:49years later

01:13:50we met

01:13:51with one

01:13:52of the members

01:13:52of this group

01:13:54who was dedicated

01:13:54to do this kind

01:13:56of rituals

01:13:57and he confessed to us

01:13:58indeed

01:13:59that he had participated

01:14:00in these rituals

01:14:01and that it was part

01:14:02from a small group

01:14:03who was dedicated

01:14:04to Satanism

01:14:05currently

01:14:06a fence

01:14:07block the way

01:14:08to all those

01:14:08who attends

01:14:09to the old sanatorium

01:14:10encouraged by its dark legend

01:14:13years later

01:14:14the mystery

01:14:15It remains unresolved

01:14:17who or what issues

01:14:18those creepy

01:14:19regrets

01:14:20from the inside out

01:14:21from the Hispanic

01:14:24go inside

01:14:24of logic

01:14:25and of coherence

01:14:26that people

01:14:27have some fear

01:14:28or respect

01:14:29to these places

01:14:29that are left with no one

01:14:30without a soul

01:14:31But they are just legends

01:14:33fables

01:14:33Or is there something more?

01:14:34Gerardo, good evening

01:14:35hello good evening

01:14:35Did you find anything else?

01:14:37apart from the myth

01:14:38I assure you

01:14:39to begin with

01:14:40the Hispanic

01:14:40It's a site

01:14:41that during the day

01:14:42impresses

01:14:43but at night

01:14:44terrorizes

01:14:44It's a site

01:14:45very shocking

01:14:47which may be its management

01:14:49Well, I don't doubt it.

01:14:50but of course

01:14:51with what you're going to tell later

01:14:52that were found

01:14:53our colleagues

01:14:54and good friends

01:14:54of this program

01:14:55Santiago

01:14:56and his brother Fernando

01:14:57when they investigated

01:14:58years ago

01:14:59those mysterious sounds

01:15:00that they recorded

01:15:01and some photos

01:15:02which we will check later

01:15:03Of course

01:15:03the myth

01:15:04or the black legend

01:15:05from the Hispanic

01:15:06at least

01:15:06It seems to have

01:15:07some consideration

01:15:09and a certain strength

01:15:10to have it

01:15:11in account

01:15:11Hey Gerardo

01:15:12by the way

01:15:14for a long time

01:15:15There is talk of lamentations

01:15:15what people

01:15:17let's say

01:15:18I was commenting

01:15:19in their personal circles

01:15:20It was the voice of a lament

01:15:22through the corridors

01:15:23It could be the air

01:15:23It could be a thousand things.

01:15:24were recorded

01:15:25but they were also recorded

01:15:26other things

01:15:27that we put here simply

01:15:28so that each viewer

01:15:29each spectator

01:15:30judge freely

01:15:31yes that's how it is

01:15:32the lamentations surely

01:15:33what you say

01:15:34They can be products of the air

01:15:35or from one of the gangs

01:15:37who ventured in

01:15:38within the Hispanic

01:15:38What is clear

01:15:39What is clear

01:15:39It's also

01:15:40an old hospital

01:15:42where there were many deaths

01:15:44many lamentations

01:15:45Well, it seems likely

01:15:46also

01:15:47those voices

01:15:48reproduce years later

01:15:49produced by something

01:15:51or by someone

01:15:51that is still

01:15:53behind those walls

01:15:54What is clear

01:15:54what's more

01:15:55in addition to those laments

01:15:57our colleagues

01:15:58they collected

01:15:59other sounds

01:16:00who are very curious

01:16:01and one of them

01:16:02above all

01:16:04also terrifying

01:16:05because we must remember

01:16:06that behind the walls

01:16:07from the Hispanic

01:16:07as the video said

01:16:08were made

01:16:09numerous rituals

01:16:11by groups

01:16:12satanic

01:16:12of sects

01:16:13well then

01:16:14one of them

01:16:14It seems to collect

01:16:16also part

01:16:17of the chants

01:16:18of the rituals

01:16:19of the masses

01:16:20that were celebrated there

01:16:21and collects a particular

01:16:23and very peculiar

01:16:24shout

01:16:25or chant

01:16:26that I believe

01:16:28which is better

01:16:28that we listen to it

01:16:28Let's see if they can do it.

01:16:31take out

01:16:32our viewers

01:16:33Let's see if they can do it.

01:16:33decipher

01:16:34But it seems quite clear.

01:16:35they put us

01:16:37They finished the investigation

01:16:38they were returning

01:16:39towards their homes

01:16:41with the recorder

01:16:41still

01:16:42start-up

01:16:43and they collected

01:16:44this creepy

01:16:45sound

01:16:46Let's listen to it

01:16:56The documents are there.

01:16:57simply

01:16:58voices of paranormal origin

01:16:59or coincidences

01:17:00That's for sure.

01:17:01We can't decipher it

01:17:02There's more, Gerardo.

01:17:03There are graphic documents

01:17:04There are more effectively

01:17:05These are more recent photos

01:17:07taken within the Hispanic

01:17:09one of them

01:17:09rather

01:17:10It's outside

01:17:11It's on the facade

01:17:12and the truth

01:17:13It's unsettling.

01:17:14what is seen

01:17:14in both photographs

01:17:16is something that

01:17:17I think it leaves

01:17:18goosebumps

01:17:18You can search

01:17:19an explanation

01:17:20which we will discuss

01:17:21to give it to her

01:17:21but of course

01:17:22It's quite unsettling.

01:17:23This, for example

01:17:23It's the first one

01:17:25He is a man

01:17:25with a flashlight

01:17:26or at least

01:17:26the beam of a flashlight

01:17:27but there

01:17:28there was nobody

01:17:28That's what it looks like.

01:17:29but there

01:17:29There was absolutely nobody there

01:17:31It is a light

01:17:32There is also someone

01:17:33what might you think

01:17:34which is a reflection

01:17:34from the flash

01:17:35what happens

01:17:36It's that if we realize

01:17:36It is a light

01:17:38very yellowish

01:17:38to be a reflection

01:17:39flash

01:17:39which is usually

01:17:40bluer

01:17:41also the form

01:17:42rounded

01:17:42It also seems

01:17:44which can rule out

01:17:45that theory

01:17:46And there is a fact

01:17:47even more disturbing

01:17:48from that same place

01:17:49More photos were taken

01:17:50and in the only

01:17:51that appears

01:17:52that reflection

01:17:53It is in this photograph

01:17:54we have provided them to you

01:17:55our colleague

01:17:56Guillermo León

01:17:56of course

01:17:57and he hasn't known either

01:17:59clarify this matter

01:18:00which possibly

01:18:01have a

01:18:02perfect natural explanation

01:18:03but that generates

01:18:04logically

01:18:05that great fabric

01:18:06of the legends

01:18:07that focus

01:18:07in one place

01:18:08in this case

01:18:09in a sanatorium

01:18:09called

01:18:10The Hispanic

01:18:10in Guadarrama

01:18:11There's another photo

01:18:12which also has to do

01:18:13with the windows

01:18:14This one does give a little bit

01:18:15repulsive

01:18:16because we heard

01:18:17the testimonies

01:18:18of people who said

01:18:19that in the windows

01:18:20Well, it seems that silhouettes were visible.

01:18:22Yes, indeed.

01:18:23This photograph is yours.

01:18:24This occurs

01:18:24Yeah

01:18:25It's recent

01:18:26from a few days ago

01:18:26occurs on the facade

01:18:27of the Hispanic

01:18:28and as we see

01:18:29on one side

01:18:30from the photograph

01:18:31It is appreciated as a species

01:18:32face

01:18:33we don't know if it is

01:18:34product of the weed

01:18:35paint stains

01:18:37or from the wall

01:18:38The point is that it looks

01:18:39a terrifying face

01:18:40on one side

01:18:41of the facade

01:18:41which of course

01:18:43Well, it seems so too.

01:18:44that has a certain relationship

01:18:45with those faces

01:18:46and even those lights

01:18:47that the people of Guadarrama

01:18:49says he saw

01:18:50on the facade

01:18:52of the Hispanic

01:18:52and anyway

01:18:53perhaps also

01:18:53There is a natural explanation.

01:18:55in the sense

01:18:56that there are certain luminescences

01:18:58reflections perhaps

01:18:59vehicular

01:18:59that cause

01:19:01in the windows

01:19:01those formations

01:19:02what we have done

01:19:03is to go there

01:19:03and verify

01:19:04which indeed

01:19:05the myth

01:19:06the legend

01:19:06the rumor

01:19:06It has a real basis.

01:19:08explainable or not

01:19:09but the stories

01:19:10of strange phenomena

01:19:12in hospitals

01:19:13they do not reduce

01:19:14of course

01:19:14only to the Hispanic

01:19:16we recovered

01:19:16a document

01:19:17also important

01:19:18the film director

01:19:19Oscar Aibar

01:19:20he told us

01:19:21like in Terrassa

01:19:21There was one of these places

01:19:22which of course

01:19:23he would not step on it

01:19:24not even in the craziest

01:19:25of their dreams

01:19:26And it's curious.

01:19:27like places

01:19:27where there is nobody

01:19:28They provoke this fear

01:19:29in people

01:19:30We see him and we hear him

01:19:32Well, look

01:19:32a hospital

01:19:32was it really

01:19:34It was abhorrent

01:19:35It was like a kind

01:19:35out beach

01:19:36He was one of the greats

01:19:37last

01:19:39euthanasia sites

01:19:40in Spain

01:19:40when a family

01:19:42There was a child with tuberculosis

01:19:43They were taking him away.

01:19:43and they took him to a place

01:19:44where there was a colony

01:19:45of 30,000

01:19:45They are ships and ships

01:19:48so that people

01:19:48outside dying

01:19:49It was a place

01:19:49where they took people

01:19:50to die

01:19:51It's unsettling to see

01:19:52It had its cinemas

01:19:53They couldn't leave

01:19:54it was like

01:19:55once you had

01:19:56You, the Koch void

01:19:57and you were already there

01:19:57so

01:19:58many people

01:19:59without anything else arriving

01:20:00There were many cases

01:20:00that they told us

01:20:01that they were children

01:20:02that arrived

01:20:02and their parents left them

01:20:03They went up to the top floor

01:20:04and they threw themselves

01:20:05Because of course

01:20:06go in there

01:20:06It was entering into horror.

01:20:07as we see

01:20:08as we see

01:20:08hospitals

01:20:09generate

01:20:09in quotation marks

01:20:11that bad feeling

01:20:12when they are abandoned

01:20:13because it seems there are many memories

01:20:14floating in them

01:20:15There are some

01:20:16some

01:20:17at least

01:20:17have made travel

01:20:19many rumors

01:20:20many legends lately

01:20:21Gerardo

01:20:21indeed

01:20:22and also

01:20:22many viewers of the program

01:20:24They also send information

01:20:26asking that

01:20:27that an investigation be conducted

01:20:28these hospitals

01:20:29that produce phenomena

01:20:30similar to those

01:20:31They occur in Hispanic culture.

01:20:32They are the case

01:20:33For example

01:20:33from the hospital of the wounds

01:20:34in Seville

01:20:35Manuel Lois of Huelva

01:20:36the one at the maternity ward in Valencia

01:20:38even one

01:20:38in Gran Canaria

01:20:39which is called

01:20:39the Pino hospital

01:20:40in all of them

01:20:41effects occur

01:20:43a little strange

01:20:44Lights are visible

01:20:45sounds

01:20:46There's even one

01:20:48legend

01:20:48that has practically happened

01:20:49to be like a species

01:20:50urban legend

01:20:50which speaks of a guard

01:20:52security

01:20:52that tries to go up

01:20:53upstairs

01:20:54to investigate

01:20:55Let's see where

01:20:56those sounds are produced

01:20:57and that the dog that carries

01:20:58He refuses to go up

01:20:59and it practically becomes

01:21:01afraid

01:21:02refusing to go up

01:21:03upstairs

01:21:04Let's see what the future holds.

01:21:05those walls

01:21:07that mystery

01:21:07Well, that's clear, Gerardo.

01:21:08that you will visit

01:21:09one of these hospitals

01:21:10and you will bring us the result

01:21:11like you did tonight

01:21:12Thank you very much, mate.

01:21:13Thanks to you, Iker

01:21:14by the way

01:21:15This didn't start today either.

01:21:16They remember the mysterious nun

01:21:18that appeared

01:21:19at the Reina Sofía

01:21:21we even interviewed

01:21:22to security personnel

01:21:23that they had decided

01:21:24not to continue working

01:21:25because they couldn't take it anymore

01:21:26with the visions

01:21:27of a species

01:21:28of a dark figure

01:21:28that I remembered

01:21:29to the former nuns

01:21:30who used to stroll around there

01:21:31a tremendous story

01:21:32what does that have to do with it

01:21:33with hospitals

01:21:34It was a place

01:21:34which was

01:21:35just like the Hispanic

01:21:36a hospital

01:21:37San Carlos

01:21:38we remember

01:21:39those visions

01:21:40we remember

01:21:41those supposed

01:21:42spectral apparitions

01:21:46I could hear the footsteps

01:21:48of the rosary

01:21:51of the rosaries

01:21:51of the nuns

01:21:55the topic was

01:21:56that only

01:21:57in the hallways

01:21:58where I worked

01:21:59were where I noticed

01:21:59those feelings

01:22:00as if something enveloped me

01:22:02as if something

01:22:02I was noticing

01:22:03a kind of force

01:22:05It was a feeling

01:22:06very strange

01:22:06and that made me feel bad

01:22:08and it upset me

01:22:09the behavior

01:22:10also

01:22:35Of course, the nun

01:22:37who wanders through the kingdom

01:22:38Sofia

01:22:39has never stopped

01:22:40capture by digital cameras

01:22:41yes indeed

01:22:42maybe one day

01:22:43Let's be lucky

01:22:44to be able to analyze it here

01:22:46in the section that follows

01:22:48the unusual photographs

01:22:49that our friends send us

01:22:50from Fourth Millennium

01:23:10Seven days ago

01:23:11We were talking to them

01:23:12of poltergeist phenomena

01:23:13of strange movements

01:23:14of objects

01:23:15furniture

01:23:16equipment

01:23:17that incite each other

01:23:18by invisible hands

01:23:19We have a photo

01:23:20from this

01:23:21Carmen

01:23:22Well

01:23:23Let's see it

01:23:24he sent it to us

01:23:25Adam Ray

01:23:25from Gran Canaria

01:23:26and he told us

01:23:27What is a photo?

01:23:28who took his sister

01:23:29and to other colleagues

01:23:30at the faculty

01:23:31as we see

01:23:31It must be a nursing degree.

01:23:33or of medicine

01:23:34because it is found

01:23:35in a laboratory

01:23:35and that at no time

01:23:36They saw how that object

01:23:37he was launched

01:23:38from nowhere

01:23:40But there are some interesting things.

01:23:41in this image

01:23:41And all eyes

01:23:43if we look

01:23:44of the girls

01:23:45are reflected

01:23:46and they go in one direction

01:23:47which is to the scissors

01:23:48and also

01:23:49we also see

01:23:50a hand

01:23:50ghostly

01:23:51in quotation marks

01:23:52because he's real flesh and blood

01:23:54that launches this object

01:23:55and it seems to us to show

01:23:57that is happening

01:23:58a poltergeist phenomenon

01:23:59in a laboratory

01:24:00of medicine

01:24:01So the spectrum

01:24:02He was quite physical.

01:24:04Is the next one, Carmen?

01:24:06the next

01:24:07It has no physical explanation

01:24:08But it does have an explanation.

01:24:10more or less logical

01:24:11Antonio Castillo

01:24:12he sent us

01:24:13This curious image

01:24:14which was carried out

01:24:15in the Chau de Fons

01:24:16in an abandoned house

01:24:17by the famous architect

01:24:18Lecubisir

01:24:19in Switzerland

01:24:20He tells us that

01:24:21Well

01:24:21He inserted the camera

01:24:23and captured this image

01:24:24says he sees

01:24:25a kind of face

01:24:27skeletal

01:24:28and the truth

01:24:28It has

01:24:29an explanation

01:24:30which is a reflection

01:24:31always with the lights

01:24:33and the shadows

01:24:34and also

01:24:34with the dust

01:24:35that are suspended

01:24:36in this case

01:24:37as is normal

01:24:37in an abandoned house

01:24:39Well, we'll keep looking.

01:24:40with great effort

01:24:41that paranormal photo

01:24:42that unsettling photo

01:24:43that photo that defies

01:24:44to any analysis

01:24:45from Fourth Millennium

01:24:46There are two directions

01:24:47There are two contact addresses

01:24:49in case they want to send us

01:24:50his photographs

01:24:51The first is through

01:24:52from the email

01:24:53on Cuarto Milenio

01:24:54at4.com

01:24:55and our post office box

01:24:5718189

01:24:58with the postal code

01:25:0028080 Madrid

01:25:01and we were already in a hurry

01:25:03we take off

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01:25:05in new research

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01:25:07in search of the mystery

01:25:08in new challenges

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