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00:00:17Do you remember this image?

00:00:19They are the three girls who appear alongside Natumba...

00:00:22...in a small cemetery in the province of Ávila.

00:00:25I am convinced that they have not been able to forget them.

00:00:27They're there. As if they've come from another time.

00:00:31As if they appeared out of nowhere.

00:00:32In a photograph that could be one of the best of alleged ghosts obtained in our country.

00:00:37Of course, there is also the possibility of an elaborate and complex fraud.

00:00:42Last week on Cuarto Milenio, with millions of friends, and I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart...

00:00:47...we try to find the solution to this challenge, to this enigma.

00:00:50And we fell short, as we have so many other times.

00:00:53What I can assure you, what I am completely certain of, is that tonight's journey...

00:00:59mystery ship...

00:01:00...it will also be worth it.

00:01:02We're going to find surprises, documents, stories...

00:01:06...which I assure you, are very difficult to forget.

00:01:10Our journey has already begun.

00:01:11Welcome.

00:01:18November 11, 1979.

00:01:21A plane with 109 passengers makes an emergency landing in Valencia, after being escorted by a UFO.

00:01:28This is, without a doubt, the most complete and fascinating case of all those investigated by the Army of

00:01:34Air.

00:01:35James Dean, Marlon Brando, Roman Polanski, Marilyn Monroe.

00:01:40Multimillionaire stars, famous for their film successes and glamorous lives.

00:01:46However, there is a dark side that is never told, and that we want to reveal today.

00:01:53On May 13, 1981, the terrorist Aliaca tried to kill the Pope in the very House of God.

00:02:00The failed assassination attempt in St. Peter's Square, after a quarter of a century, is still shrouded in mystery.

00:02:05most impenetrable of mysteries.

00:02:09This list I have here is the first one made in Spain about UFOs and Army investigations.

00:02:17Air.

00:02:17They are a cluster of cases, you can see March 20, 1964, in Seville, January 1, 1975,

00:02:24in Burgos, June 22, 1976, in the Canary Islands.

00:02:27Cases that remained unexplained in the official archives of the Spanish government.

00:02:32And the thing is, I always say the same thing: when people talk about UFOs, the eternal question is, do you believe...

00:02:37in UFOs?

00:02:37And I reply that as a journalist I can neither believe nor disbelieve; this is not a matter of faith.

00:02:41Are there documents that support the existence of UFOs? Yes, there are.

00:02:44In the Air Force facilities, which Cuarto Milenio has been able to visit exclusively,

00:02:49There are 2,000 files on unidentified flying objects that have no solution.

00:02:55or at least there are doubts about what they could be.

00:02:58Many of these cases involve qualified personnel, elite witnesses, fighter pilots, military pilots,

00:03:04people who came to see with their own eyes anomalies that we don't know what they are.

00:03:08We're not talking about aliens or time machines here,

00:03:12We are really talking about a phenomenon that violates our airspace

00:03:15and that sometimes even forces a plane full of passengers to land.

00:03:20It happened on November 11, 1979, and files of this thickness demonstrate,

00:03:26of the Air Force, I repeat, which is one of the best documented cases in the world.

00:03:31For those Austrian tourists, it was just another flight.

00:03:34However, something happened halfway through the journey.

00:03:37It was an interrupted journey.

00:03:39It's a story I want you to know, with original recordings.

00:03:42of what happened on that mythical night in the history of UFOs.

00:03:45It's the Manises UFO.

00:03:49Commander Javier Lerdo de Tejada,

00:03:52with over 8,000 flight hours and 14 years of professional experience,

00:03:56along with the second pilot Ramón Zuazu,

00:03:58The TAEJK 297 super-caravel began its takeoff.

00:04:02from the Mallorcan airport of Son San Juan, around 11 pm.

00:04:06In the airplane cockpit, the mechanic Francisco Javier Rodríguez

00:04:10He observed unknown traffic approaching at high speed.

00:04:16Let's hope we have some traffic coming our way.

00:04:19to our left, approximately 4 or 5 miles.

00:04:23297 negative, no traffic reported.

00:04:27We have our red light signals,

00:04:30as now about 3 miles to 10 from our position.

00:04:35At approximately the same height.

00:04:38At 10 o'clock in position,

00:04:40about 3 miles to the left of your current position.

00:04:43Yeah.

00:04:44Affirmative.

00:04:45Yes, please let me know about that traffic when you can.

00:04:49We at 97 have no information of any traffic proceeding on that route,

00:04:53But this is the only traffic between Ibiza and Licante.

00:04:58Whatever it was, it was too close to the device.

00:05:03It performed impossible maneuvers, going up, down, accelerating rapidly.

00:05:07and then, suddenly, it would stop.

00:05:11He seemed to be playing with the plane.

00:05:13It's just that the lights, these famous lights,

00:05:15Well, at first they were far away, to the left, and below, right?

00:05:18At a different altitude than ours

00:05:20And it seemed like they were flying in formation alongside us, didn't it?

00:05:23It seemed like they were playing with us.

00:05:25That's when, from that movement

00:05:29close to us, both before and behind,

00:05:30That's what scared us, isn't it?

00:05:33Suddenly,

00:05:34and from the EVA 5 military surveillance station in Benidorm,

00:05:37They appeared to emerge from nowhere.

00:05:39up to five echoes of unidentified objects.

00:05:43Who were they?

00:05:44And above all,

00:05:45What were they trying to achieve by approaching a plane full of passengers?

00:05:49Can you confirm what type of aircraft can handle this traffic?

00:05:54Vivae 297, can you confirm?

00:05:56Live in the same direction.

00:05:58Yes, we are getting closer.

00:06:02Second afternoon, 297.

00:06:04I can only see two fixed red lights, without a flash.

00:06:09Second afternoon, 297.

00:06:11I have increased the ascent rate by 280

00:06:15But this traffic is rising much faster than we are.

00:06:18and it tightens more and more.

00:06:22297, received.

00:06:24Given the extremely alarming situation,

00:06:26The commander chose to change the established course

00:06:28and perform an emergency landing

00:06:30at the Valencian airport of Marises.

00:06:33It was at that moment

00:06:34when from the Barcelona control tower

00:06:36The direct intervention of the air force was requested.

00:06:39The military was willing to meet

00:06:42who was hiding behind that device.

00:07:06The supercaravel TAE 297

00:07:09He initiated a swift defensive maneuver, turning to his right towards Valencia.

00:07:13During the journey to the city of El Turia

00:07:15The UFO continued to pursue the aircraft.

00:07:19Well, when the three of them came in

00:07:21both Tejada and Zoazo as well as La Zapata

00:07:24Well, not even Kirchhoff's films.

00:07:26They arrived pale and distraught.

00:07:29I've only seen those faces twice in my life.

00:07:33The entire security and emergency operation

00:07:36He was deployed at the Valencian air base.

00:07:38And suddenly

00:07:40the mysterious unidentified flying object

00:07:43appeared above the Manises vertical

00:07:45as if defying all those who could see it with the naked eye.

00:07:49More than 50 people

00:07:51They witnessed that miracle.

00:07:54Finally, between the control tower

00:07:56the colleagues from the traffic office

00:07:59the airport director himself

00:08:01who was with us

00:08:02I was here, I had dinner here that night

00:08:05and other people who were around here

00:08:06There were about 30 of us.

00:08:08Let's see the same thing.

00:08:10The UFO was observed

00:08:11from different points of the airport

00:08:13and even from nearby neighborhoods

00:08:15to the air facilities.

00:08:18That thing, whatever it was

00:08:20I was there.

00:08:22We were keeping track

00:08:23Sure, we started to see it

00:08:24Hey, you see it, well look, yes, there it is

00:08:26Well, the usual, right?

00:08:27We get a call from the control tower

00:08:29Hey, are you watching it?

00:08:30Yes, yes, in the same position.

00:08:31We all agreed

00:08:32as if we weren't right next to each other

00:08:34because one might think

00:08:35One might expect collective hysteria, wouldn't one?

00:08:37No, because the man who was in the tower

00:08:39I saw him

00:08:39those who were on the other side

00:08:41They saw it on the platform

00:08:42We notified the air base

00:08:43There was an air base in front then.

00:08:44It has now disappeared

00:08:45The base is now AENA's land, isn't it?

00:08:48from the airport

00:08:49So there was an airbase there, wasn't there?

00:08:51We notified the day captain

00:08:52from the air base

00:08:52They left and from the platform

00:08:54They saw it too.

00:08:55but we were watching

00:08:57from different places, right?

00:08:58It was the first time in history

00:09:00of Spanish aeronautics

00:09:01than a commercial airplane

00:09:03suspended its flight route

00:09:04and made an emergency landing

00:09:05due to the presence

00:09:06of a flying object

00:09:07unidentified

00:09:08the so-called Malises file

00:09:10It had only just begun.

00:09:15a Mirach F1

00:09:16from the military base

00:09:17from the plains of Albacete

00:09:18piloted by the experienced

00:09:19Captain Fernando Cámara

00:09:21I was going on a Scramble mission

00:09:23The objective was clear.

00:09:26intercept the intruder

00:09:27that he had raped

00:09:28Spanish airspace

00:09:38intense night

00:09:39in the Spanish sky

00:09:41at a certain point

00:09:42of the night

00:09:44the order is given

00:09:45that a Mirach F1

00:09:46takeoff

00:09:47from the air base

00:09:48of the Plains

00:09:49in Albacete

00:09:49to pursue the intruder

00:09:51to pursue

00:09:52to that UFO

00:09:52in the cockpit

00:09:54of that plane

00:09:54A man was walking

00:09:55extensively experienced

00:09:56Air Force captain

00:09:58Mr. Fernando Cámara

00:09:59Fernando Cámara

00:10:00good night

00:10:01good night

00:10:02welcome

00:10:03And thank you very much.

00:10:04because I know it's not easy

00:10:06somehow

00:10:06to remember again

00:10:07these stories

00:10:08It's been a long time

00:10:10But you were there

00:10:11a lot a lot

00:10:12It's been a long time

00:10:13unforgettable

00:10:14I can't imagine

00:10:14Well

00:10:15So many things have happened

00:10:17since then

00:10:18and before that

00:10:20well then

00:10:20truly

00:10:21It's a story

00:10:22hey

00:10:22what happens

00:10:23Fernando

00:10:23at a given moment

00:10:25They wake you up

00:10:26I imagine

00:10:26They give you the alert

00:10:27and you get on

00:10:28on your plane

00:10:28you take off from there

00:10:30What happened?

00:10:30What were the first few minutes like?

00:10:31I passed through Valencia

00:10:33above Valencia

00:10:34I didn't see anything

00:10:35on the radar

00:10:36it didn't appear

00:10:38no echo

00:10:40There were no echoes

00:10:41of other planes

00:10:42because

00:10:43they had been in charge

00:10:44to separate

00:10:45traffic

00:10:46civil

00:10:47that there might have

00:10:47in the area

00:10:48at a moment

00:10:49I thought I saw

00:10:50a light

00:10:51southward

00:10:52seaward

00:10:54a light

00:10:55seaward

00:10:55and I say

00:10:55Well, head there.

00:10:57Let's see if

00:10:58if you see something

00:10:59I saw then

00:11:00in front of me

00:11:01and a little bit

00:11:02lower

00:11:03if I went

00:11:04at 20,000 feet

00:11:06I might think

00:11:07that was

00:11:0818,000

00:11:0919,000 feet

00:11:10I mean

00:11:10I saw him

00:11:11a bit

00:11:11below

00:11:12of the horizon

00:11:12and in front

00:11:14we see a light

00:11:15a light

00:11:16that

00:11:16It's red

00:11:17where we said

00:11:18now it's white

00:11:21but it wasn't

00:11:22a light

00:11:22intermittent

00:11:23if it was varying

00:11:24little by little

00:11:24Yeah

00:11:25suddenly you saw her

00:11:26red

00:11:26suddenly you saw her

00:11:27white

00:11:27or did you see her

00:11:29green

00:11:30also

00:11:31so

00:11:32I'm watching her right now.

00:11:34so

00:11:35seeing her there

00:11:37because I used

00:11:38the modes

00:11:40radar

00:11:40that the plane had

00:11:42Well, to see

00:11:43if it detected it

00:11:44something already

00:11:45focusing

00:11:46directly

00:11:46in that light

00:11:49that I saw

00:11:49but nothing

00:11:50on the radar

00:11:50nothing appeared

00:11:52if it were an object

00:11:53conventional

00:11:54Fernando

00:11:54an object

00:11:54another plane

00:11:56whatever it was

00:11:56obviously

00:11:57You usually see it

00:11:58so

00:12:00I think that

00:12:01when he should have been

00:12:03approximately

00:12:03at some

00:12:04that

00:12:046 or 7 miles

00:12:06of the vertical

00:12:07from Valencia

00:12:09so

00:12:10It started

00:12:12to occur

00:12:14on the plane

00:12:15some interference

00:12:16the detector

00:12:17threat

00:12:18radar

00:12:18carrying

00:12:19the planes

00:12:19that

00:12:22It is a system

00:12:23that warns you

00:12:24if a

00:12:25if a radar

00:12:27good from another plane

00:12:28good of a missile

00:12:30seeing those

00:12:31is focusing on you

00:12:32So that object

00:12:33Fernando

00:12:34then

00:12:34upon seeing the information

00:12:35that you had

00:12:36which is that I had

00:12:36located here

00:12:37I mean, I see

00:12:38that light

00:12:38and then

00:12:39when I'm there

00:12:40closer

00:12:41It starts

00:12:42the beep

00:12:43of

00:12:43to say

00:12:45man

00:12:45Well, there's something there.

00:12:46that is

00:12:48that is enlightening me

00:12:49And what do you feel?

00:12:50then

00:12:51inside the cockpit

00:12:52in what is

00:12:53a fighter jet?

00:12:55because of what you feel

00:12:56is that someone

00:12:56It's illuminating you

00:12:57you understand me?

00:12:58that are illuminating you

00:13:00with a radar

00:13:00which also

00:13:02the system

00:13:03I was telling you

00:13:04What kind?

00:13:04It was a little

00:13:05the radar

00:13:05and the radar

00:13:07that

00:13:08that came out

00:13:10The lights that illuminated me were a continuous wave radar, which is normally a type of radar that is associated with

00:13:16to a missile. That is, the missiles are targeted with that continuous-wave radar, which is what guides them.

00:13:22The missile to launch you. In other words, it's a radar that's not pleasant to feel in the plane.

00:13:30I realized that the address where I was being blocked is called "block," which isn't that...

00:13:36They're not blocking the controls, it's that they're blocking you with a radar, it was in the direction

00:13:41This light was on, and at the same time, there was radio interference. Interference

00:13:48Very similar to what an emergency beacon is, which produces a sound like a siren, you know? In the

00:13:57radio. And couldn't you calculate the size somehow? The size cannot be calculated.

00:14:01Because when you see a light, you don't know if it's very far away or very close. What

00:14:08What happens? In this case, the researchers later gave it importance because I saw it.

00:14:14in front and a little lower, and those below saw it from above. So there was already,

00:14:21You were viewing it from two points, so it can already be determined that it, that light,

00:14:28I had been standing vertically above Valencia for almost an hour, and there I was, a

00:14:37at an altitude at which helicopters normally cannot hover, much less sustain a

00:14:42It's that time and they give a radar signal. And what did you do, Fernando, at that moment when you were already very close?

00:14:47of the object? I'm still tracking it with my system, I have the infrared missiles activated, but nothing.

00:14:56It gives off an infrared signal, meaning it doesn't give off heat, because, well, it's possible the radar doesn't detect it.

00:15:02Look, but if he were there, because given the distance I was from Valencia, he should have been there already.

00:15:10About a mile or two away, very close to that light. So I alerted the controller.

00:15:18I tell him, hey, I've already passed Valencia, I've already passed Valencia and I still have

00:15:24The light in front, because it's time, that is, you go much faster, it takes longer to count it

00:15:31than moving around, through the air. And then the controller commented that yes, they had

00:15:40Seeing that the light had gone out, he was ahead of me. And how long will this chase continue?

00:15:44Fernando? Well, that chase almost took me all the way to Zaragoza. From Valencia to Zaragoza,

00:15:49behind that identified flying object? Yes, there are approximately, there could be 10,

00:15:5211 minutes, 15 minutes. I was asking military control for permission to go supersonic.

00:15:59to see if I could get closer. I think I managed, I should have managed, to get closer.

00:16:05Moreover, despite the interference. And I have the feeling, I think, that at one point,

00:16:12Because time has passed, and above all, things move very fast there, since that light that came out

00:16:20It was as if it radiated light. An object that radiated light? Yes, it was like something that radiated light.

00:16:27in the light. I think I saw a shape like a cup, like a cup without the

00:16:34part

00:16:34From the foot, a cup, a trunk. A hemisphere? A hemisphere. Immediately he returned

00:16:43to keep my distance and to have the same feeling I had since I had seen him

00:16:48There it is. And then, well, there, behind him. Well, the testimony of Fernando Cámara,

00:16:54Air Force captain, Mirage F1 fighter pilot, I think he has nothing

00:16:57which has to do with what, unfortunately, television has taught us for years,

00:17:00of absolutely strange people who talk about UFOs. There are also witnesses of genuine

00:17:05The elite who have seen them. But not only that. Fernando talks about interference, and it's curious.

00:17:10because just a few days later, in another report that had been confidential for many years

00:17:14From the air force, a very similar episode is recounted about Motril, where another pilot

00:17:21The report says, after ten minutes of flight chasing a kind of log

00:17:25of the cone, located above Motril, I'm talking about two days after this incident, when passing through

00:17:30Heading 360 degrees, the pilot listens and comes, and they are seeing him, spelled out and written by

00:17:38The documents, which for many years were still confidential to the air force, are being listened to.

00:17:43The childlike voices inside his cockpit say to him, "Hello, how are you?"

00:17:48Hello, hello. The interference lasted about 30 seconds. The plane landed safely.

00:17:53At 6:05 PM, after failing to reach that object. Fernando Cámara spoke about cases like this.

00:17:58The similarities between a hemispherical object, like a crescent moon, and other features are not accidental. There are many documents.

00:18:03Regarding these types of stories, and I repeat, in the actual army archives. For example,

00:18:07in the first few days, specifically on January 2, 1975, at the shooting range

00:18:12of Bardenas Reales, one of the most heavily guarded places in Spain during that decade of the

00:18:1670, where American pilots practiced fighter piloting, an object identical to the one that

00:18:21Captain Fernando Cámara describes how he landed before 30 witnesses. The night before, five soldiers

00:18:26From the army and the Burgos Engineering Academy, five observe, in the middle of the road

00:18:32objects with a shape identical to that described by Fernando Cámara, which even manage to burn

00:18:36the field. There, the next day, the press found a footprint of 300 square meters,

00:18:42The trace we are seeing is a charred trace. These are documents that have never been solved.

00:18:46Our colleague Juan Vallejo and Francisco Contreras have both succeeded

00:18:50to access a place that has always been airtight, but which has been opened for the fourth cameras

00:18:54millennium. These are the Air Force facilities, the Central General Library of

00:18:58Air Force, where files like these are kept, files that tell what

00:19:03What happened to Fernando Cámara? Do you want to see the official UFO documents from

00:19:07Spanish Army? Do you want to see the files firsthand? Here they are.

00:19:13After 24 hours, the news broke in the media, causing a

00:19:17An unprecedented debate. The press headlines were unequivocal.

00:19:30Not even the Minister of Transport, Sánchez Terán, could give a logical answer to the episode

00:19:36during their visit to the facilities. The military investigation, silent and methodical,

00:19:42It had already begun. Any investigation, data, or information regarding the UFO incident will be

00:19:47It became a classified matter, a secret that was kept for many years.

00:19:54Two Air Force officers came to meet with us right away.

00:20:01from the barracks, who was on duty at the base that day and also came to make it official

00:20:05of flights, a lieutenant or a captain. And they already surveyed us there and then we had

00:20:11to speak with them again, with a delegation from the Air Force. Fifteen days later we had

00:20:16that return.

00:20:17The Armed Forces launched a thorough investigation. In 1979, everything related

00:20:24The UFO phenomenon was classified as a reserved matter by the Board of

00:20:29Chiefs of Staff. Over time, researchers and journalists

00:20:34They have carried out meticulous work to try to explain what happened that night.

00:20:39November 11. Their studies revealed that during the following days, the following occurred

00:20:45more encounters of similar characteristics.

00:20:48And it was coming from the Minister of Commerce; it was going to land at the air base. And while it was arriving and not

00:20:54I arrived, a captain called me over and said, "Hey, go out onto the runway, you'll see." And we looked and there was

00:21:00A very bright red light appeared in the sky in the northwest direction. This stopped for a while and then...

00:21:06He came out again after a while and then he was gone. So, hey, we told them and all that. I mean, no way.

00:21:13Military prototypes, collective hallucinations, and even luminous reflections have been offered as explanations.

00:21:19recurring. But for those involved, there is still no solution to that night of

00:21:24terror, experienced in the Spanish sky.

00:21:27Well, what I can tell you is that after so many years in this world of aeronautics,

00:21:33a normal airplane, and "normal" includes everything I know about airplanes, right?

00:21:40She wasn't. She wasn't. A star, what can I say? She wasn't a star either, obviously.

00:21:47The reflection of the chimneys of some place that someone said it could be, well

00:21:52Man, from Cartagena, I don't know where he said. Well, listen, no, no.

00:22:00But it's a UFO, right? An unidentified flying object. Something we didn't know about, at least I didn't.

00:22:07I'll never know, nor do I have any record of it ever being discovered what it could have been, but...

00:22:13something completely outside the norms.

00:22:18It was necessary to wait until July 29, 1994, the date on which the 142 pages that make up

00:22:25The military report on the Manises case was declassified. A thick volume to which the

00:22:31The Cuarto Milenio team has gained access. Our cameras have witnessed how in

00:22:37The analyzed UFO files can be consulted at the Air Force headquarters.

00:22:42For defense. There are the real official documents of the Spanish government.

00:22:48As regards the Manises case, it concludes with the judge's findings.

00:22:53case instructor, assuring that...

00:22:56...the existence of unidentified traffic in the area is confirmed, originating

00:23:01unknown. That is the true verdict for a case that no one, 25 years later,

00:23:09has managed to explain.

00:23:17There were books like the one by...

00:23:18...the journalist, the great journalist and friend Juan José Benípte, from Jaleta del Norte,

00:23:22which he called the Manises Incident. But there were others, such as the Manises case file,

00:23:26by Juan Antonio Fernández Pérez, who much later gave a hypothesis.

00:23:31And it is common for hypotheses to be made to explain the strangest cases.

00:23:36Even stranger. I don't know if I should comment on it, Fernando, but some people said that what

00:23:42What could have been seen were the chimneys of a factory in Cartagena. And that alarm,

00:23:47The emergency landing and your pursuit as an F1 fighter pilot was to some chimneys.

00:23:51I don't know if you want to comment on anything.

00:23:52So you understand that the chimneys that gentleman is referring to are the spoil heaps,

00:23:58It is a refinery located in Descombreras.

00:24:00Which I imagine happen every day; they don't disappear and they appear.

00:24:02Well, it's there, and all of us who are Air Force professionals have always seen it,

00:24:07because they are next to where the General Air Academy is located, in San Javier,

00:24:12and that have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

00:24:14You saw it and that was it.

00:24:15I saw it. The following week, this case you mentioned, the one in Motril,

00:24:20Another close friend of mine from our graduating class came up with something that gives me complete peace of mind.

00:24:26you understand me?

00:24:27And the identical behavior is incredible.

00:24:29We're not giving his name out of respect for him, but...

00:24:32He gave him a beating, you know?

00:24:36The plane even had rivets; they were burned.

00:24:39How, how, how, Fernando?

00:24:40Well, but it's a case I'm not involved in.

00:24:43Yes, it got to... Well, it's mentioned in the official report.

00:24:45Because while I was there observing this matter, it seemed as if a light, as if a blowtorch,

00:24:52Her sensation was that a blowtorch had passed over her from the bottom to the top of the plane.

00:24:58Then we were told, hey, you've put me in a collision with a plane or another plane that might be around here.

00:25:02And I was like, well, there aren't any there and all that.

00:25:04And then, when he followed after it, which was like one of those acetylene torches,

00:25:10I mean, it really hits you hard, you know?

00:25:13That's when he heard those voices...

00:25:16The voices of children.

00:25:16About the kids and stuff, you know?

00:25:18And besides, this case, as he remembered the case from the previous week,

00:25:24Mine says, well, they're not putting this one on the radio for me.

00:25:28And he turned off the radios.

00:25:29He didn't just change the channels, he turned off the radio and kept listening.

00:25:34Also with the radios turned off.

00:25:37So, some cases as well...

00:25:38You mean, Fernando, with the radios off, as the report mentions,

00:25:41Hi, how are you?

00:25:42Hello hello.

00:25:42Inside the cockpit, children's voices, an air force pilot.

00:25:45Furthermore, I believe those voices made...

00:25:48On an Iberia plane, flying over the Mallorca area,

00:25:54He gave a report of...

00:25:56That he had also heard those voices.

00:25:58They had also gotten into their radio there.

00:26:01The army reports are full of anomalies, we'll leave it at that.

00:26:04Anomalies, let everyone think what they want.

00:26:05But I, Fernando, sincerely, here in public, want to thank you for your courage.

00:26:10Because for me, it takes courage, given how these issues are sometimes handled.

00:26:13that a professional of your caliber says, I saw it.

00:26:16I believe that for many people who have seen these objects, it is important.

00:26:18I saw it, I made the report that I made.

00:26:21For a time it was classified as confidential.

00:26:25And I always, you know what I mean?, that you've called me for something like this.

00:26:30Well, I've informed the air force to ask for permission.

00:26:33Hey, ask the press office for permission.

00:26:35And that's it. Now I'm in reserve, it's declassified.

00:26:39And I haven't considered, you understand?, that I had to ask for permission.

00:26:43Fernando, and we thank you from the bottom of our hearts, truly.

00:26:45Because for me, I repeat, it's a sign of courage.

00:26:47Thank you so much for your visit to Cuarto Milenio, Fernando.

00:26:50Well, that's fine, I'm always at your service.

00:26:52Official Bulletin of the Cortes Generales, Congress of Deputies.

00:26:57None other than Mr. Enrique Mújica Herzog, in the middle of Parliament,

00:27:02He asked three questions about what kind of plane, what kind of traffic,

00:27:07What unidentified flying object caused the TAE company's supercarabel to land?

00:27:12And what happened that night of November 11, 1979, over the Spanish sky?

00:27:18Three questions that remain unanswered.

00:27:21After 25 years, no one responded.

00:27:24The government's response is, we might say, a conventional one.

00:27:29as in other governments, other countries that have been subjected to parliamentary control.

00:27:34We are continuing our investigation; we cannot provide any further information.

00:27:37We continued studying the phenomenon.

00:27:40I am convinced that an X-File could be done in antiquity,

00:27:45as interesting as these Spanish army officers,

00:27:48Speaking of another historical maneuver, the discovery of America.

00:27:52There are still a lot of doubts about whether there were other sailors before Christopher Columbus.

00:27:57There's some surprising news, and as always, Carmen Porter brings it to us.

00:28:00Carmen, good evening.

00:28:01Good evening, Iker.

00:28:02The Chinese and their navigators appear to be strong candidates to be the true discoverers of the new world.

00:28:09Well, a map that could prove

00:28:13that Chinese fleets arrived in America before Christopher Columbus.

00:28:16The map, which appears to be an 18th-century copy of the original, which was made in 1418,

00:28:22It shows North and South America in unusual detail.

00:28:26It was acquired in 2001 by lawyer and art collector Liu Gang,

00:28:29who says he didn't realize its significance until he read a book by an English author

00:28:34who claimed that a Chinese admiral arrived in America before Columbus.

00:28:37It was the work of Gavin Menzies, 1421, the year in which China discovered America,

00:28:43which is based on the possibility that Admiral Feng arrived on this land 70 years before Christopher Columbus

00:28:49Colon.

00:28:50The great historical feat of a mysterious admiral, Feng He.

00:28:54Also mysterious is what is happening in a specific place in Galicia,

00:28:58a place where authentic exorcisms are still performed in the 21st century,

00:29:02And it happens in our own country.

00:29:04Last week, the parish priest of Ocorpiño, in Galicia,

00:29:09He had to exorcise three elderly women who believed they had the devil in their bodies.

00:29:15The first to undergo the ritual performed by the priest José Don Sion,

00:29:19It was a 60-year-old woman who was emitting high-pitched screams while writhing on the floor with severe convulsions.

00:29:25Seated on a bench, another alleged possessed woman screamed and growled while kicking the ground loudly.

00:29:30And a third one was vomiting, as well as dragging benches to the floor.

00:29:35Apparently, the parish priest was only able to cast the demons out of two of them.

00:29:39Or so a third person claimed; she will have to return to have the exorcism ritual performed on her.

00:29:44And I don't know if the demons of antiquity would torment the figure of a child, the child of Taung,

00:29:49which for many is nothing more and nothing less than the missing link.

00:29:52An American researcher believes he has solved the mystery surrounding the death of a hominid that lived 2,000 years ago

00:30:00on Earth.

00:30:01This is a skull belonging to an African juvenile hominid discovered in 1994

00:30:06and is considered as evidence of the missing link.

00:30:09The child's death was attributed to a leopard or other carnivore.

00:30:12But now, Lee Berger, a paleontologist at the University of Johannesburg,

00:30:16He claims that the boy known as the Taung child, a three-and-a-half-year-old, was killed by an eagle.

00:30:23But now, if you're ready, let's talk more about joined photograms than photographs.

00:30:27I mean, from movies, I mean, from Hollywood.

00:30:30But it's about a side of Hollywood that is never told, the dark side, the sinister side.

00:30:43The child's death was attributed to a leopard or other carnivore.

00:31:11Many names, many facts and many memories surrounding the great Hollywood cinema.

00:31:18Spectacular box office returns, many Oscars, glamour, beauty, power, money...

00:31:22But there is also a dark side, a side that some specialists even describe as witchcraft,

00:31:28full of rituals, a fondness for esotericism, for spiritualism,

00:31:32and sometimes also filled with tragic deaths and strange coincidences.

00:31:37We're talking about the curses of Hollywood.

00:31:39A story that I think you should know because it can be as interesting as the movies themselves in some cases.

00:32:02These movie superstitions are extremely varied.

00:32:06It is said, for example, that Superman is a cursed character.

00:32:09Many of the actors who have portrayed him on the big screen have been victims of inexplicable bad luck,

00:32:15which on several occasions has ended in tragedy.

00:32:20If we talk about Superman, curiously we are talking about a curse on the character and not on the person as we are used to.

00:32:26We should start by talking about Bud Collier.

00:32:27This was the person who was an actor, but a voice actor.

00:32:30He voiced Superman in the television comics and died three years after starting the role.

00:32:35of mild circulatory problems.

00:32:37We would have to talk about George Reeves, who was the first actor in the television series and who, interestingly,

00:32:42He died in 1959 from a gunshot wound to the head.

00:32:45They spoke of suicide, but no fingerprints were ever found on the weapon used.

00:32:50And we would have to talk about Christopher Reeve, perhaps the one we know best, the most important, the Superman who has gone

00:32:55to the big screen.

00:32:57And, well, everyone knows that he had an accident while riding a horse.

00:33:01He became quadriplegic in a wheelchair and died at age 52 from a heart attack.

00:33:06It was even said that actor Marlon Brando's bad luck began when he played a small role as the father of

00:33:12Superman.

00:33:13At other times, it is the artists themselves who seem to tempt fate by flirting with the occult.

00:33:20The voluptuous James Mansfield maintained a close relationship with Anton Levy, founder of the Church of Satan.

00:33:27A relationship that did not have the approval of her husband.

00:33:31The fact is that James Mansfield's lover at the time, his lawyer Brody, did not agree with those things at all.

00:33:37The actress's inclinations towards the world of Satanism and esotericism.

00:33:41And he made fun of it quite a bit, to the point that on one of the visits they both made to

00:33:46Beyoncé's house,

00:33:48He spent all his time mocking, being ironic, and criticizing the witch doctor, Bey.

00:33:55The person who didn't take it very well and apparently placed a curse on James's lover

00:34:00Mansfield also warned her to be careful because accidentally,

00:34:05If she was present at the moment that curse could materialize, it could also affect her.

00:34:12And well, as many film fans know, James Mansfield died shortly afterwards in a spectacular and

00:34:19tragic car accident,

00:34:20in which, moreover, in a rather gruesome way, he literally lost his head.

00:34:25In a head-on collision, while driving to perform in Las Vegas, the car's windshield was shattered.

00:34:32completely severing the actress's head and also causing the death of her lover,

00:34:37Fortunately, the actress's two children who were traveling with them were unharmed.

00:34:42Many filmmakers who have explored the figure of the devil have personally experienced the alleged curse.

00:34:48The most dramatic case is possibly that of Roman Polanski, director of Rosemary's Baby.

00:34:54Many people warned him not to approach the subject of the devil.

00:34:57But he ignored it time and time again, claiming he was not superstitious.

00:35:04It was during filming that he received the terrible news that his wife, eight months pregnant,

00:35:10The beautiful actress Sharon Tate had been murdered by followers of the psychopath Charles Manson.

00:35:16a shady character who in his delirium believed himself to be the very incarnation of the antichrist.

00:35:23Those men who desecrated Polanski's home called themselves The Family

00:35:27and turned the luxurious Cielo Drive mansion into a veritable orgy of death.

00:35:33On the walls, painted with blood, were messages and warnings that many interpreted as a true act of revenge by the evil one.

00:35:46She is one of the most famous faces of the 20th century, unfortunately.

00:35:50Charles Manson, books like this one were published in Spain, causing great terror among readers.

00:35:56with shocking photographs of the massacre of this strange family.

00:36:01He remains imprisoned, and thank goodness, because it seems that his mental health has not changed one iota during all this time.

00:36:07The actions of this family, of these boys, put an end to a certain part of the American dream.

00:36:13It was a direct attack against that way of life of the stars.

00:36:16There's a story that still gives me goosebumps,

00:36:19And our dear colleague Santiago Camacho told me about it. Santiago, good evening.

00:36:23Good evening, Iker.

00:36:24Well, apart from the terrible thing about the massacre, about painting things like "pig" with blood,

00:36:30also phrases that seemed strange, such as helter, skelter,

00:36:34They were referring to a Beatles song that these people went crazy for,

00:36:38There is another story that connects directly to the mysteries of Hollywood,

00:36:42The protagonist, the beautiful Sharon Tate.

00:36:44Indeed, Sharon Tate, at a time when she didn't even know the man who would become her husband,

00:36:50Roman Polanski had no connection whatsoever with the tragic death he was going to suffer.

00:36:55but she lived with one of the most important hairdressers, one of the most important stylists in Hollywood,

00:37:01Jay Sebrin, they were lovers, they had a relationship, and also, well, in a house that had a reputation,

00:37:10It had been occupied by several film stars,

00:37:13and it was reputed to be somehow imbued or enchanted.

00:37:17Sharon Tate told her friends on several occasions about a dream,

00:37:21that when they remembered her, after her death, these friendships paled,

00:37:26Because it's impressive. I remember that one night he woke up,

00:37:32She woke up startled, from what seemed like a nightmare.

00:37:37And so, he went down to get some water.

00:37:41At the foot of the ladder, tied with a rope around her neck,

00:37:45A figure was found, a figure with a canvas sack,

00:37:48with what looked like a pillowcase covering his head,

00:37:52whose neck was flowing with abundant blood, and it appeared that she had been beheaded.

00:37:57It was the figure of a pregnant woman.

00:37:59A vision?

00:38:00A vision. He thought it was a ghost.

00:38:03He attributed it to being in a state of half-sleep, perhaps.

00:38:06and that she wasn't fully awake, and had just had a nightmare,

00:38:09And maybe that's why.

00:38:11Certainly, the vision was prophetic.

00:38:12because those were exactly the same circumstances

00:38:16where his body was found years later,

00:38:18covered with a pillowcase,

00:38:21beheaded and several months pregnant.

00:38:25A precognition, an evidence, an anticipation of future events.

00:38:31Parapsychology knows this very well.

00:38:33Those who are experts in these fields would have no doubts.

00:38:37Sharon Tate, one of the victims of the dark side of Hollywood.

00:38:40Specifically, Santiago, they were talking about another character,

00:38:41Bruce Lee, who could be there, or who was going to attend that dinner

00:38:45where the Manson family enters and kills those who are there.

00:38:49It wasn't a miracle, was it?

00:38:51But, nevertheless, its end is equally mysterious.

00:38:53Yes, in fact, also in the case of Bruce Lee,

00:38:56He was freed from this curse,

00:38:57But it was even something that his fans

00:39:02It has caught their attention a lot,

00:39:04a very unclear death, a sudden death,

00:39:07which also seems to have been moving

00:39:09the curse from parents to children,

00:39:10because, likewise, under the same mysterious circumstances,

00:39:14in the same tragic circumstances,

00:39:16His son, too, this one already a movie star,

00:39:19in its infancy, at that time, years later,

00:39:21He also lost his life.

00:39:23I'm sure everyone remembers the great,

00:39:25indomitable Bruce Lee,

00:39:27those kicks faster than the camera's eye,

00:39:30that man who is an icon,

00:39:31But what exactly did he die of?

00:39:33Why does it remain a mystery?

00:39:35Why are there conspiracies surrounding this figure today?

00:39:37And what happened to your son?

00:39:39Let's get to know him.

00:39:40On July 20, 1973,

00:39:43Bruce went to Betty Tim Pei's apartment,

00:39:45to talk about the movie Game of Death,

00:39:48the one that never finished filming.

00:39:50After dinner,

00:39:52Bruce said he had a headache.

00:39:54Apparently,

00:39:54I had been experiencing these pains

00:39:56for some time.

00:39:58Betty gave her some medicine.

00:39:59and after dinner,

00:40:01He went to sleep.

00:40:02Bruce Lee

00:40:03He never woke up.

00:40:05There was talk of a fragile brain

00:40:07due to the thousands of blows to the head

00:40:08suffered throughout his career.

00:40:11However,

00:40:11Other versions mention a possible involvement

00:40:14of the mafia that controls the film industry in Hong Kong,

00:40:17or from martial arts schools,

00:40:19whose secrets were allegedly violated by the actor.

00:40:23Brandon,

00:40:24Bruce Lee's son,

00:40:25He also died very young

00:40:26in an inexplicable accident

00:40:28during the filming of the movie The Crow,

00:40:30when he was shot with a gun

00:40:32which should have been charged

00:40:34with blank cartridges.

00:40:36Is the Lee family there?

00:40:37Under a curse?

00:40:42I'm sure, Santiago,

00:40:44if they offer you a car,

00:40:45even if it's a Porsche,

00:40:46You'd never buy it, would you?

00:40:48It's the story of James Dean's car.

00:40:50Yes, especially a Porsche 550.

00:40:52Which was the car, precisely,

00:40:54It's a legendary car.

00:40:55within sports cars,

00:40:57a highly valued collector's item,

00:41:00But that's where James Dean lost his life.

00:41:02And it also seems that all its pieces,

00:41:04or part of its engine,

00:41:05They have continued to generate a negative legend.

00:41:07almost to the present day.

00:41:09Do you want to know the story of Little Bastard?

00:41:11That was the name of this vehicle.

00:41:12James Dean and other greats,

00:41:14entangled in the curses of Hollywood.

00:41:19It has always been said that there is some kind of curse

00:41:21It weighed heavily on Marilyn Monroe's head.

00:41:24The more success he achieved on screen,

00:41:26Even more unhappy was his personal life.

00:41:29Unrequited love,

00:41:31depressions,

00:41:32drugs,

00:41:33and finally,

00:41:34a strange suicide

00:41:35that for conspiracy theorists

00:41:37It could have been a state assassination

00:41:39related to her affairs with the Kennedy brothers.

00:41:43A genuine conspiracy

00:41:44which remains one of the favorites of the American people.

00:41:48James Dean also passed away

00:41:50under the sign of the curse.

00:41:52His film career was short,

00:41:54only two years,

00:41:55but enough to impose his image

00:41:57among the teenage audience.

00:41:59It all ended tragically.

00:42:02when his Porsche 550

00:42:03It crashed head-on into another vehicle.

00:42:07Some people are linking this accident

00:42:09with the thwarted romance

00:42:10which he had with the B-movie actress

00:42:12and a practitioner of witchcraft,

00:42:14Mayla Normi,

00:42:14better known as Vampire.

00:42:17It seems that the day on which

00:42:19James Dean

00:42:20He also met a tragic death

00:42:23in a traffic accident

00:42:24driving at full speed

00:42:26his Porsche,

00:42:27Vampire,

00:42:28fed up with the actor's contempt

00:42:30that he had practically abandoned her,

00:42:32He picked up a framed photograph

00:42:34that he had of the same

00:42:35and threw it forcefully against the wall

00:42:37breaking it into a thousand pieces

00:42:39so that the crystals of the frame

00:42:41they became embedded

00:42:42completely splitting

00:42:43the face of James Dean.

00:42:45According to legend,

00:42:46at that very moment

00:42:47Dean's Porsche

00:42:48It crashed at full speed

00:42:49becoming unrecognizable

00:42:51both the car

00:42:52as its occupant.

00:42:53But strange events

00:42:55they did not finish

00:42:56with Dean's death.

00:42:58It seemed as if somehow

00:42:59the curse

00:43:00he would have moved to his car,

00:43:02the one he called

00:43:03little bastard.

00:43:04So,

00:43:05the Porsche 550

00:43:06It continued to claim victims

00:43:08even after

00:43:09of having been scrapped.

00:43:11For example,

00:43:12when in the same place

00:43:13of the accident

00:43:13a truck was collecting

00:43:15the remains that were left

00:43:16of the car

00:43:17to move them

00:43:19These came loose

00:43:20fell on top

00:43:21of the driver

00:43:22and he lost his life

00:43:23instantly.

00:43:24Subsequently

00:43:25car insurance

00:43:27He sold the car

00:43:28to a collector

00:43:30and this collector

00:43:33He made a series of parts

00:43:34with the.

00:43:35He sold on one side

00:43:35the gear lever

00:43:37which caused an accident

00:43:39also in a race.

00:43:40He sold the wheels

00:43:41that exploded

00:43:42because they were in bad condition

00:43:43in another vehicle

00:43:44and perhaps the accident

00:43:47more striking

00:43:48related to this car

00:43:50also takes place

00:43:51during a race

00:43:52with the engine.

00:43:53The engine had been installed

00:43:54in a car

00:43:54of a tycoon

00:43:57from Beverly Hills

00:43:58and this man

00:43:59Well, it was the first time

00:44:00that he was going to take that car

00:44:01He had an accident

00:44:02in the race

00:44:02and died

00:44:02and lost his life.

00:44:04Coincidences?

00:44:04It's possible.

00:44:06As happens

00:44:06with witchcraft

00:44:07and voodoo

00:44:08psychiatrists

00:44:08and anthropologists

00:44:09They think that suggestion

00:44:10plays an essential role

00:44:12for compliance

00:44:13of curses.

00:44:14This type of story

00:44:15necen after

00:44:16not during life

00:44:17of people

00:44:18who have suffered from it.

00:44:19That is to say

00:44:20is something that

00:44:20when he leaves

00:44:21joining

00:44:22supposedly

00:44:23a whole series

00:44:24of phenomena

00:44:24which we call

00:44:26strangers

00:44:27we want to justify

00:44:29existence

00:44:29of all those phenomena

00:44:31with an alleged curse

00:44:33the question is

00:44:34in which we never know

00:44:35really

00:44:36if that curse

00:44:37has been fulfilled

00:44:37or what has happened

00:44:39have been

00:44:39a series

00:44:39by chance

00:44:40that have had

00:44:41a union

00:44:43and that give

00:44:44one aspect

00:44:44of something negative

00:44:45in relation

00:44:46to the rest.

00:44:47Coincidence or curse

00:44:48of what we can

00:44:49be sure

00:44:50It's because after the powerful

00:44:51Hollywood spotlights

00:44:52There will always be

00:44:53a shadow

00:44:54mystery

00:44:54a mist

00:44:55that is never projected

00:44:56in no room

00:44:57but that it weighs

00:44:58whoever it may concern

00:44:59continues planning

00:45:00silent

00:45:01like a black man

00:45:02omen

00:45:02about the city

00:45:03of the lights

00:45:04luxury

00:45:05and glamour

00:45:08Curses

00:45:09coincidences

00:45:10Call it whatever you want

00:45:10but it gives the impression

00:45:11that the stars

00:45:12from Hollywood

00:45:13they move

00:45:13in a world

00:45:13of money

00:45:15where everything is

00:45:16within reach

00:45:16hand in hand

00:45:17And perhaps that's why

00:45:17the greater interest

00:45:18is to go

00:45:19that which cannot be bought

00:45:20with the bill metal

00:45:22to those strange worlds

00:45:23sometimes Santiago

00:45:24worlds of Satanism

00:45:25It seems unbelievable

00:45:26But there is a great influence

00:45:27in the big stars

00:45:28for good

00:45:30everything that is considered

00:45:31dark and demonic

00:45:32Yes, indeed

00:45:33that when Anton LaVey

00:45:35the founder

00:45:35of the Church of Satan

00:45:37decide to locate

00:45:39his black Vatican

00:45:41somewhere

00:45:42it is precisely

00:45:43in Hollywood

00:45:44where it is decided

00:45:45to place it

00:45:46he

00:45:47we have seen

00:45:48a moment ago

00:45:49the case of James Mansfield

00:45:50But his church of Satan

00:45:52attracts

00:45:53it becomes

00:45:53in one of the phenomena

00:45:54social

00:45:55of the season

00:45:57and attracts many stars

00:45:58from the very

00:46:00James Mansfield

00:46:00even Sammy Davis Jr.

00:46:02For example

00:46:02which also

00:46:03He was a very good friend

00:46:05of this black pope

00:46:06and becomes

00:46:08in the decade

00:46:09of the 60s and 70s

00:46:10in an equivalent

00:46:11to what could be

00:46:11at the moment

00:46:12the Church of Scientology

00:46:13in terms of attracting

00:46:15a large number

00:46:16of celebrities

00:46:17a large number

00:46:18of movie stars

00:46:19to her bosom

00:46:20There is an explanation.

00:46:23if we want to give it

00:46:23any explanation

00:46:24rationale to this

00:46:25which is

00:46:25in an environment

00:46:26highly competitive

00:46:27in an environment

00:46:29tremendously

00:46:30superstitious

00:46:30besides

00:46:31how is

00:46:31the entertainment industry

00:46:33from the world of cinema

00:46:34Well, sometimes

00:46:35to achieve success

00:46:37one can appeal

00:46:38absolutely everything

00:46:39notice that

00:46:40in history

00:46:41the key moment

00:46:43in which there is

00:46:43more black masses

00:46:44in which it is generated

00:46:45Satanism

00:46:45as we know it

00:46:46at the moment

00:46:47it is precisely

00:46:48the court of Louis XVI

00:46:49an environment

00:46:50exactly the same

00:46:51to which it could be

00:46:52the Hollywood environment

00:46:53in which the courtiers

00:46:56they were trying to get ahead

00:46:57rather

00:46:57stepping on each other

00:46:58to the others

00:46:58and in which already

00:46:59as a last resort

00:47:00Help was needed

00:47:01even if it were

00:47:02from the devil himself

00:47:04Santiago

00:47:06thank you so much

00:47:07Thank you for your visit

00:47:08to the fourth millennium

00:47:08and above all

00:47:09we stayed a little while

00:47:09overwhelmed

00:47:10because we didn't imagine

00:47:11that there was such enthusiasm

00:47:13such a hobby

00:47:13into the dark

00:47:14in black

00:47:14strange

00:47:15and also

00:47:16some specialists

00:47:16They claim that

00:47:17That's why they happen

00:47:18certain things

00:47:19the black pope

00:47:20They knew that on the internet

00:47:22is active

00:47:23that satanic church

00:47:24that he founded

00:47:25this mysterious character

00:47:26I knew that still

00:47:27many Hollywood stars

00:47:28They continue to attend

00:47:29to certain rituals

00:47:30all that

00:47:31This can be verified

00:47:33simply

00:47:33at the touch of a key

00:47:46when the police detachment

00:47:48He arrived at the mansion

00:47:49of the Polanskis

00:47:50they met

00:47:50a scene

00:47:51of horror

00:47:51all covered in blood

00:47:53even the curtains

00:47:54There was a kind

00:47:55of letters

00:47:56or codes

00:47:56that no one has been able to decipher

00:47:57and the truth

00:47:59It's just that the curtains

00:47:59sometimes

00:48:00they also reflect

00:48:01things

00:48:02mysterious

00:48:04mysterious

00:48:05like this face

00:48:06that appeared

00:48:07in one image

00:48:08that he sent us

00:48:08Carlos Gómez

00:48:09and that it was taken

00:48:10in a hostel

00:48:11of nuns

00:48:11while they were

00:48:12spending a weekend

00:48:13with some monitors

00:48:14we have analyzed

00:48:15the photograph

00:48:16and apparently

00:48:17It is undoubtedly

00:48:18of some kind

00:48:19projection

00:48:19over the curtain

00:48:21the factions

00:48:21are very defined

00:48:22and also

00:48:23extend

00:48:23about the folds

00:48:24of the curtain

00:48:25perfectly

00:48:26therefore

00:48:27someone

00:48:28he played a joke

00:48:29to these monitors

00:48:30and these students

00:48:31that were

00:48:32having a pleasant time

00:48:33weekend

00:48:34in this hostel

00:48:35a joke

00:48:35very well done

00:48:36That has to be said

00:48:37by the way

00:48:37that sometimes

00:48:38They are not objects

00:48:39frills

00:48:39unidentified

00:48:40those that are captured

00:48:41through the cameras

00:48:41photographs

00:48:42but people

00:48:43that happen

00:48:44unidentified

00:48:45There we have an example

00:48:46Carmen

00:48:46That's what he was telling us.

00:48:48Noemi Perez

00:48:49by sending us this image

00:48:50was happening

00:48:51a pleasant afternoon

00:48:52with his friends

00:48:53in a local

00:48:54when they took a photograph

00:48:56upon revealing it

00:48:57they realized

00:48:57that someone

00:48:58that they don't know

00:48:59and that he shouldn't be there

00:49:00it was just happening

00:49:01behind

00:49:01and indeed

00:49:02It's about

00:49:03from prolonged exposure

00:49:05while a person

00:49:06passes in front

00:49:07of the objective

00:49:07and at a given moment

00:49:09the exposure to light

00:49:10from the flash

00:49:10freezes and captures

00:49:11that silhouette

00:49:12that really

00:49:13was happening

00:49:14behind them

00:49:14ghost of flesh and blood

00:49:16if they happen

00:49:18these types of cases

00:49:18if they have documents

00:49:20of this

00:49:20or other mysteries

00:49:21They already know where to go

00:49:23two directions

00:49:23which are already classics

00:49:24Carmen

00:49:24an email address

00:49:26electronic

00:49:26fourth millennium

00:49:27at4.com

00:49:28And of course

00:49:29a post office box

00:49:3018189

00:49:3328080 Madrid

00:49:34like postal code

00:49:35a man passing by

00:49:36almost like a shadow

00:49:37TRUE

00:49:38almost like a silhouette

00:49:39without a defined shape

00:49:40Something like that happened

00:49:42in St. Peter's Square

00:49:42May 13, 1981

00:49:45a mystery

00:49:46that still

00:49:47no one has been able to clarify

00:49:48that shadow

00:49:49It had a name

00:49:50Aliasca

00:50:23all the covers

00:50:24from newspapers around the world

00:50:25they reflect the same face

00:50:27the unsettling gaze

00:50:28of an individual

00:50:29called

00:50:29Mehmet Ali Azka

00:50:31that on May 13

00:50:33of 1981

00:50:34decided to end it

00:50:35to the life of the Pope

00:50:36He didn't succeed

00:50:37fortunately

00:50:37but his action

00:50:39It remains

00:50:39one of the greats

00:50:40mysteries of the 20th century

00:50:41Everything has been discussed

00:50:43It has been said that the KGB

00:50:44was willing

00:50:45to annihilate

00:50:46to the Polish Pope

00:50:47that so many problems

00:50:47was giving

00:50:48in the block

00:50:49of the iron curtain

00:50:50It was also discussed

00:50:51even aid

00:50:52within the Vatican itself

00:50:53It's more

00:50:54Aliasca

00:50:54in the initial statements

00:50:56indicates that

00:50:57has received

00:50:58insider information

00:50:59from within

00:51:00of the Holy See

00:51:01fiction of a madman

00:51:02true story

00:51:04this name

00:51:05It's on everyone's lips

00:51:06But this man

00:51:07it is still

00:51:08a complete stranger

00:51:09as of today

00:51:10almost 25 years later

00:51:12nobody knows

00:51:13what were the threads

00:51:14that moved it

00:51:14We want to meet him

00:51:16in depth

00:51:16we want to immerse ourselves

00:51:18in the biography

00:51:19of a strange man

00:51:21Aliasca

00:51:21the gunman

00:51:23who attempted

00:51:24in the square

00:51:24of Saint Peter

00:51:43Memed Aliasca

00:51:45is a character

00:51:46mysterious

00:51:47that drags

00:51:47a story

00:51:48of murders

00:51:49leaks

00:51:50and intrigues

00:51:50international

00:51:51He was born in 1958

00:51:53in the bosom

00:51:55of a family

00:51:55humble

00:51:56of a suburb

00:51:56of the province

00:51:57Turkish Malatia

00:51:58as a child

00:51:59He earned a living

00:52:00selling water

00:52:01but soon

00:52:02showed his sympathies

00:52:03by the gray wolves

00:52:04a mysterious

00:52:05terrorist organization

00:52:07far right

00:52:08his past

00:52:09of criminal

00:52:11person more or less

00:52:12active

00:52:13and action

00:52:13willing

00:52:14to face

00:52:15to the police

00:52:16in minor offenses

00:52:17is quickly captured

00:52:18and promoted

00:52:20to receive

00:52:21a training

00:52:22supposedly

00:52:23in Bulgaria

00:52:24the area very close

00:52:25to Türkiye

00:52:26against the border

00:52:27with the part

00:52:28continental Europe

00:52:29and later

00:52:30it is documented

00:52:32their presence

00:52:33in Syria

00:52:34where

00:52:35like many other groups

00:52:37radicals

00:52:39terrorists

00:52:40of the time

00:52:42receives training

00:52:43in the use of weapons

00:52:44and explosives

00:52:45February 1st

00:52:47of 1979

00:52:48murdered the journalist

00:52:50Turkish liberal

00:52:50Abdi Ipekci

00:52:51editor of the newspaper

00:52:53Miliet

00:52:53Aska

00:52:54He was arrested

00:52:55almost immediately

00:52:56but on November 23

00:52:58of that year

00:52:59before it was dictated

00:53:00his death sentence

00:53:01He escaped from prison

00:53:02from Kartal

00:53:03the prison

00:53:04safer

00:53:05of the country

00:53:06when he killed

00:53:07to the director

00:53:08from the newspaper

00:53:09Miliet

00:53:10Abdi Ipekci

00:53:12I was 20 years old

00:53:15He killed him

00:53:16and they put him in

00:53:17in jail

00:53:18maximum security

00:53:19from Kartal

00:53:19and from there

00:53:21a police officer

00:53:23a guardian

00:53:24from prison

00:53:25He helped her escape

00:53:26women's dress

00:53:28He gave him such a

00:53:29And the two of them left.

00:53:30quietly

00:53:31The guard came out

00:53:32and Alietcha

00:53:33lady's dress

00:53:34through the door

00:53:35from prison

00:53:35from Kartal

00:53:37and they left

00:53:38to a bus

00:53:39It was after this

00:53:40surprising escape

00:53:41when Aska

00:53:42passed to Bulgaria

00:53:43where it says

00:53:44that began

00:53:44to work

00:53:45for the services

00:53:45secrets

00:53:46of this country

00:53:46and for the KGB

00:53:48Soviet

00:53:48an organization

00:53:50believe it or not

00:53:51with many interests

00:53:53in the Vatican

00:53:54historically

00:53:55the service

00:53:56Russian secret

00:53:57or the KGB

00:53:57has had

00:53:58an interest

00:53:59very special

00:54:00because of everything that was happening

00:54:01in the Vatican

00:54:04after

00:54:05of the

00:54:06of the

00:54:06Second World War

00:54:08the KGB

00:54:09realized

00:54:10that in certain

00:54:11countries

00:54:12I couldn't

00:54:13act

00:54:14directly

00:54:14because I couldn't

00:54:15bear

00:54:16the pressure

00:54:16that its agents

00:54:17were discovered

00:54:18that its agents

00:54:19were caught

00:54:20whereby

00:54:20used

00:54:21for the missions

00:54:22riskier

00:54:23for the missions

00:54:24more dangerous

00:54:25to the services

00:54:26secrets

00:54:27from some of the countries

00:54:28that they

00:54:29controlled

00:54:30basically

00:54:31they used

00:54:32to the services

00:54:34secrets

00:54:34Poles

00:54:35and to the services

00:54:36secrets

00:54:37from Germany

00:54:37east

00:54:38and to the services

00:54:38secrets

00:54:39Bulgarians

00:54:40as follows

00:54:41that we know

00:54:42from Aliasca

00:54:42It's because it moves

00:54:43with a fake passport

00:54:44in the Federal Republic

00:54:45from Germany

00:54:46Italy

00:54:46Swiss

00:54:47Tunisia

00:54:48and Spain

00:54:49your final destination

00:54:50It was the same

00:54:51house of God

00:54:52St. Peter's Square

00:54:54in the Vatican

00:54:54where on May 13

00:54:56of 1981

00:54:58shot the pope

00:54:59John Paul II

00:55:00with a gun

00:55:01Browning 9 millimeters

00:55:02for Bellum

00:55:03Nobody could believe it

00:55:05to what happened

00:55:06and the images

00:55:07captured casually

00:55:09by a team

00:55:09Spanish television

00:55:10They turned around

00:55:12to the world

00:55:12the Turk

00:55:13upon being arrested

00:55:15it was shown

00:55:15calm and cold

00:55:16like ice

00:55:17as if it were

00:55:18a puppet

00:55:19that followed

00:55:19precise orders

00:55:20from someone

00:55:21in his pocket

00:55:22it was found

00:55:23a handwritten note

00:55:24which said

00:55:24I

00:55:25Azka

00:55:26I have killed the pope

00:55:27so that the world

00:55:28I can find out

00:55:28that there are thousands

00:55:29of victims

00:55:29of imperialism

00:55:39we have read

00:55:40many documents

00:55:42in recent days

00:55:43about the

00:55:44imprisonment

00:55:45the new entry

00:55:46in prison

00:55:47from Aliazka

00:55:47his strange words

00:55:48They say he believes

00:55:50Christ

00:55:50who will be in charge

00:55:52of killing Bin Laden

00:55:53nobody knows

00:55:54as it arrived just right

00:55:55even the Pope

00:55:55and he was able to shoot him

00:55:56several projectiles

00:55:58There's a whole story behind it.

00:55:59dark

00:55:59that never ends

00:56:00to reveal

00:56:01There are wonderful books

00:56:02They could be recommended

00:56:04many

00:56:04but perhaps

00:56:05the most accurate

00:56:06lately

00:56:07It is the Holy Alliance

00:56:08from a phenomenal journalist

00:56:10which I believe is

00:56:10the best-informed person

00:56:11from the Vatican

00:56:12Eric Fratini

00:56:14by the way

00:56:15that there is one thing

00:56:15that I can't resist

00:56:16to ask you

00:56:16Eric

00:56:17good night

00:56:17welcome

00:56:17good night

00:56:18Thank you for your visit.

00:56:19Fourth Millennium

00:56:19There is one thing

00:56:20I don't know if it's a legend

00:56:21or truth

00:56:21And that intrigues me

00:56:22and I think the viewers

00:56:24also

00:56:24the Pope's visit

00:56:25John Paul II

00:56:25to prison

00:56:26Where is Aliazka?

00:56:27the man

00:56:28who tried to kill him

00:56:30they say

00:56:30and the images are seen

00:56:31several minutes pass

00:56:33speaking almost crouching

00:56:34one with the other

00:56:35They say the Pope

00:56:36and you can see

00:56:38pales

00:56:38that I was telling him

00:56:40Aliazka

00:56:40after

00:56:41days later

00:56:42the pope

00:56:42gives order

00:56:43about what

00:56:43that conversation

00:56:45and even some notes

00:56:46move to the archive

00:56:47Vatican secret

00:56:48with the order

00:56:49that nobody

00:56:50rediscover

00:56:51what happened

00:56:51that May 13th

00:56:53Truth or legend?

00:56:54I think we based it on

00:56:55mainly in rumors

00:56:56because

00:56:58really

00:56:59does not exist

00:57:00documentation

00:57:02as we said

00:57:03the journalists

00:57:04pure and simple

00:57:04about that famous

00:57:05May 13

00:57:06that is true

00:57:08because it was recorded

00:57:10in the secret archive

00:57:10Vatican

00:57:11the thing is

00:57:13fairly

00:57:13the next day

00:57:14the meeting

00:57:15between

00:57:15John Paul II

00:57:16and

00:57:17Mehmet Aliazka

00:57:18in Reviva prison

00:57:19in cell T4

00:57:22takes place

00:57:23one day the 23rd

00:57:24and on the 24th

00:57:25in the year 83

00:57:27on the 24th

00:57:28John Paul II

00:57:29through the cardinal

00:57:30Luigi Pogui

00:57:31which was

00:57:31It was the man

00:57:33Luigi

00:57:33Cardinal Luigi Pogui

00:57:34He was the almighty

00:57:36head of service

00:57:36Vatican espionage

00:57:37throughout all the years

00:57:38most important

00:57:39let's say acting

00:57:40John Paul II's policies

00:57:42ordered that

00:57:43all documents

00:57:44relatives

00:57:44both to the meeting

00:57:45by Mehmet Aliazka

00:57:46in Reviva prison

00:57:47as with everything investigated

00:57:50or compiled

00:57:51through other services

00:57:52foreign espionage

00:57:53like the Israeli Mossad

00:57:54or the CIA

00:57:55or the American CIA

00:57:57remained

00:57:59placed in boxes

00:58:00sealed

00:58:00with the pontifical seal

00:58:01in the Vatican secret archives

00:58:03what's happening?

00:58:04those documents

00:58:05they cannot be opened

00:58:06because of Vatican law

00:58:07He does not have an order.

00:58:07declassification

00:58:09but

00:58:09Yes, they are recorded

00:58:11in a search warrant

00:58:12that's public knowledge

00:58:13in the pontifical honor

00:58:15this

00:58:15like everything else

00:58:16in the events that occurred

00:58:17May 13

00:58:18from the year 81

00:58:19and it's in the archive

00:58:20Vatican secret

00:58:21the next day

00:58:22from the meeting

00:58:22with Mehmet Aliazka

00:58:23But the most incredible thing

00:58:24Erick

00:58:25And you tell it.

00:58:25in your books

00:58:26which are many

00:58:26Vatican secrets

00:58:27the holy alliance

00:58:28you've been around the last few years

00:58:29getting into it

00:58:30as a great journalist

00:58:31in these matters

00:58:32always so thorny

00:58:33one thing that not everyone knows

00:58:35Aliazka

00:58:36fires several shots

00:58:37One hits him in the stomach

00:58:39but another

00:58:40He was going to kill her chest.

00:58:41What happened to that bullet?

00:58:42Yeah

00:58:43Aliazka

00:58:43from 5:18

00:58:45which is when it does

00:58:46the first shot

00:58:48It hits him in the stomach

00:58:49to John Paul II

00:58:50when he just left

00:58:51to the girl

00:58:51which are the famous images

00:58:53that we have seen

00:58:53hundreds of times

00:58:54the second bullet

00:58:56He shoots her in the chest

00:58:57at chest level

00:58:58of John Paul II

00:58:59the bullet hits him

00:59:01on a medal

00:59:02that he always wears hanging

00:59:03because he was a devout man

00:59:04of Fatima

00:59:04It hits him in the medal

00:59:07and the bullet is deflected

00:59:08and it starts

00:59:09a phalanx

00:59:10of the little finger

00:59:11of the right hand

00:59:12That's why they say

00:59:12the doctors

00:59:14they say that

00:59:14the second bullet

00:59:16it has affected him

00:59:17at hand

00:59:18and the third shot

00:59:19It is done

00:59:20Azka

00:59:21commits 3 shots

00:59:22and the third

00:59:23it's embedded in him

00:59:23on the arm

00:59:24on one arm

00:59:26that bullet

00:59:28the trajectory continues

00:59:29it deviates

00:59:30through the medal

00:59:31It starts

00:59:32a phalanx

00:59:33of the finger

00:59:33one hand

00:59:34and ends up embedded

00:59:35in the car

00:59:36in the papal vehicle

00:59:39that bullet

00:59:40It's also very curious

00:59:41which is also another date

00:59:42remembered from May 13th

00:59:43because that bullet

00:59:46He asks the doctor

00:59:49to your private doctor

00:59:50at the Gemelli clinic

00:59:51when he recovers

00:59:52of the attack

00:59:52He asks that please

00:59:53that the bullet

00:59:54hand it over to the Pope

00:59:56because on May 13th

00:59:58He's going to take her

00:59:59to Fatima

00:59:59It's more

01:00:00the bullet is inserted

01:00:01crushed by the medal

01:00:02of Fatima

01:00:03again on May 13th

01:00:04again on May 13th

01:00:05in a metal box

01:00:06in a metal urn

01:00:08with the pontifical seal

01:00:09and he takes her

01:00:10personally

01:00:11to the church of Fatima

01:00:13and leaves it there

01:00:14that now everyone

01:00:15You can see the medal

01:00:17and the medal

01:00:17She left it to him as an inheritance

01:00:19to your private doctor

01:00:21Perhaps it's time

01:00:22to remember

01:00:23with data

01:00:24some of them

01:00:25It has taken a long time

01:00:26to come to light

01:00:26what happened

01:00:28in that attack

01:00:29in St. Peter's Square

01:00:295 and 18

01:00:30May 13

01:00:32again on May 13th

01:00:331981

01:00:34our colleague

01:00:35Santiago Camacho

01:00:36which has also done

01:00:37Fermanal books

01:00:37on this matter

01:00:38as a biography

01:00:38unauthorized

01:00:39from the Vatican

01:00:40try to explain

01:00:41what happened

01:00:42It gives the impression

01:00:43that they are images

01:00:43seen by all

01:00:44images that leave a mark

01:00:45a time

01:00:45with the same force

01:00:47that the attack

01:00:48to the twin towers

01:00:48or that the arrival

01:00:49from man to the moon

01:00:50however

01:00:51about this fact

01:00:51we know rather little

01:00:53What happened that afternoon?

01:00:54and why

01:00:55after the attack

01:00:57from St. Peter's Square

01:00:58They were all unknowns.

01:01:00who had wanted

01:01:01Eliminate the Pope

01:01:02in cold blood

01:01:03in 1985

01:01:05It began in Rome

01:01:06the trial

01:01:06about an alleged

01:01:07international conspiracy

01:01:08in the attack

01:01:10against the pontiff

01:01:11it was thought

01:01:12that the KGB

01:01:13had asked

01:01:14to the secret service

01:01:14Bulgarian

01:01:15that organized

01:01:16the assassination

01:01:16that's what was baptized

01:01:18as

01:01:18Bulgarian track

01:01:19the secret service

01:01:22Russian

01:01:22I had the Bulgarians

01:01:25performing the operations

01:01:26dirty

01:01:27near

01:01:28from the Vatican

01:01:30This service

01:01:31Bulgarian secret

01:01:32what I would have done

01:01:33would have been

01:01:35look for

01:01:36a way

01:01:37to finish

01:01:37with the Pope

01:01:38because the Russians

01:01:39they couldn't bear it

01:01:41to have a Polish pope

01:01:43that

01:01:43not only

01:01:45supported

01:01:45openly

01:01:47solidarity

01:01:48and his friend

01:01:49Oleg Valesa

01:01:50but supported

01:01:51all the movements

01:01:52revolutionaries

01:01:53they saw

01:01:54that the wall

01:01:55from Berlin

01:01:56could end

01:01:57along

01:01:58of the different

01:01:58interrogations

01:01:59Aliazka

01:02:00has given

01:02:01different versions

01:02:02of the facts

01:02:02increasingly

01:02:03contradictory

01:02:04and increasingly so

01:02:05convoluted

01:02:06in what everyone

01:02:07the experts

01:02:08They agree

01:02:08as of today

01:02:09is in that

01:02:10the Turkish gunman

01:02:11guards jealously

01:02:12his secret

01:02:13a terrible secret

01:02:14to whom recently

01:02:16has set a price

01:02:17and that for many

01:02:18could change

01:02:19the story

01:02:20of the 20th century

01:02:21I think that

01:02:24I'm sure

01:02:25And this is a fact.

01:02:26scientifically proven

01:02:28that Aliazka

01:02:29He's a liar

01:02:29compulsive

01:02:31and take very good care of it.

01:02:32his secret

01:02:33because he knows

01:02:33that in that

01:02:34His life depends on it

01:02:35now when they say

01:02:36that they can kill him

01:02:37surely

01:02:37They are preparing

01:02:38anyway

01:02:39his murder

01:02:40what they say

01:02:40than for 12 million

01:02:41of dollars

01:02:42He's going to lie.

01:02:43He's not going to talk

01:02:44not even for 12

01:02:44because it's the last

01:02:45that says

01:02:46there would be no room

01:02:47to go where to hide

01:02:48among all this

01:02:49accumulation of versions

01:02:50Aska has arrived

01:02:51to affirm

01:02:51that told

01:02:52with the help

01:02:53of an accomplice

01:02:53within the Vatican itself

01:02:55many took

01:02:56hands on head

01:02:57and not a few

01:02:58They recalled the strange death

01:03:00of John Paul I

01:03:00as an example

01:03:02of the strange plots

01:03:03occurred

01:03:03within the Holy See

01:03:05the truth is that

01:03:06after the fall

01:03:07of the Berlin Wall

01:03:07it was verified

01:03:09that the services

01:03:09Bulgarian secrets

01:03:10They had a mole

01:03:12infiltrated in the very

01:03:13Swiss Guard

01:03:14that guarded

01:03:15to the Supreme Pontiff

01:03:16they met

01:03:17with which they had

01:03:18a mole

01:03:19embedded in the Vatican

01:03:20with all

01:03:21credibility

01:03:23and they

01:03:24limiting

01:03:24from the very first moment

01:03:26to complement

01:03:28the low salary

01:03:29that had

01:03:29this guard

01:03:31at first

01:03:32and little by little

01:03:33to gradually obtain

01:03:34information

01:03:35Alois Sterman

01:03:37he managed to place

01:03:39microphones

01:03:40in the room

01:03:41of the Pope

01:03:42to find out

01:03:43their conversations

01:03:44private

01:03:44and usually

01:03:46used

01:03:47the train line

01:03:48Rome

01:03:49Eastbrook

01:03:50where there was

01:03:50or had

01:03:51a drawer

01:03:52where he was in charge

01:03:53his tapes

01:03:54magnetic tape recorders

01:03:54where he was in charge

01:03:55the information

01:03:56about the activities

01:03:57of the Pope

01:03:58and above all

01:03:59that

01:03:59What was I going to do?

01:04:00the only

01:04:01that perhaps

01:04:02knew part

01:04:02of the great truth

01:04:03is the very

01:04:04John Paul II

01:04:05December 27

01:04:07of 1983

01:04:09Aska received

01:04:10in his cell

01:04:11the visit

01:04:11of the Pope

01:04:12with who

01:04:13chatted

01:04:13for 18 minutes

01:04:15taking refuge

01:04:16in the secret

01:04:16of confession

01:04:18whatever it was

01:04:19the dialogue

01:04:20in that gloomy place

01:04:21knowledge

01:04:22of that secret

01:04:23keen

01:04:24deeply

01:04:25both men

01:04:27It seemed to me

01:04:28an enlightened one

01:04:29and he talked a lot

01:04:30of the third secret

01:04:31to Fatima

01:04:32and said

01:04:33because

01:04:34the homicide

01:04:35To the Pope?

01:04:36because

01:04:36the attempt

01:04:36of murder

01:04:37To the Pope?

01:04:37and spoke

01:04:38with distance

01:04:39as if

01:04:40he wouldn't have been

01:04:41the author

01:04:43of the shots

01:04:46said

01:04:46because

01:04:47Kill the Pope?

01:04:47because

01:04:48he wondered

01:04:48himself?

01:04:50I mean

01:04:50separating

01:04:51about what

01:04:51he had been

01:04:52the author

01:04:53maybe someday

01:04:54Alias carrompa

01:04:55the silence

01:04:56and tell the world

01:04:57the truth

01:04:58about the attack

01:04:59about who drove

01:05:00the threads

01:05:01and why

01:05:02if he escapes

01:05:03of the many

01:05:04that have set a price

01:05:05to his head

01:05:06maybe that day

01:05:07is possible

01:05:08that what is known

01:05:09serve to reveal

01:05:11one of the great secrets

01:05:12of all time

01:05:13a true mystery

01:05:15that for some

01:05:16he has been sleeping since that

01:05:17fateful day

01:05:18deep inside

01:05:19from the Vatican archives

01:05:20and that for the moment

01:05:22no one seems

01:05:23be willing

01:05:24to reveal

01:05:32Images that follow

01:05:33overwhelming

01:05:33despite

01:05:34as I was saying

01:05:34We have seen them

01:05:35thousands of times

01:05:36that John Paul II

01:05:39clinging

01:05:39to his own abdomen

01:05:40and seeing that the blood

01:05:41falls

01:05:42and he at one point

01:05:43Erick believes he is going to die

01:05:45It's more

01:05:45this attack

01:05:46causes changes

01:05:47much stronger

01:05:48of those who think

01:05:49or those that were made public

01:05:50The Pope was never the same

01:05:52from this moment

01:05:52No?

01:05:53No, well

01:05:54It's because it changed

01:05:55You were saying

01:05:56in the presentation

01:05:57of the program

01:05:59you were saying that

01:05:59until then

01:06:00clear

01:06:01no one had thought of it

01:06:02kill the Pope

01:06:03really

01:06:03to attempt to assassinate the Pope

01:06:04in the contemporary age

01:06:06No?

01:06:06and really

01:06:07it's true

01:06:08because the entire block

01:06:10then that he had

01:06:10from then on

01:06:11of the attack on the Pope

01:06:12the entire security block

01:06:14all the great security

01:06:15what comes next

01:06:16which it now has

01:06:16Pope Benedict XVI

01:06:18it is, let's say

01:06:20It is a security system

01:06:22worthy of a head of state

01:06:23something I didn't have before.

01:06:25because John Paul II

01:06:26never thought

01:06:26that they could shoot

01:06:27against the Pope

01:06:28nor its secret services

01:06:29nor the Israeli Mossad

01:06:30not even the CIA

01:06:31He had a great relationship

01:06:32with Vernon Walters

01:06:33the special envoy

01:06:35from President Reagan

01:06:36for espionage matters

01:06:37that they had even warned him

01:06:39that could have been the target of an attack

01:06:40by the Islamists

01:06:41of the pro-Iranian

01:06:42which is one of the theories

01:06:43which is also handled

01:06:44You talk about theories, Erick

01:06:45And which one do you keep?

01:06:48year 2006

01:06:49It's been a long time

01:06:50They are talking about the Bulgarian track

01:06:52of the KGB

01:06:52of a Pope who was too friendly

01:06:54of that famous Polish union

01:06:56Solidarnock

01:06:58But who was behind it?

01:06:59because he says several things

01:07:00when he can speak

01:07:01That's why it doesn't surprise me.

01:07:02that the Pope would stay

01:07:03Perhaps it was Azka's madness.

01:07:04what I was telling him

01:07:05in jail

01:07:05or were they things that cannot be known

01:07:07talks about aid

01:07:09within the Vatican

01:07:10and many people remember

01:07:11other episodes

01:07:11like the strange death

01:07:13of John Paul I

01:07:14They start talking

01:07:15of a species

01:07:15of the Vatican mafia

01:07:16or it's nonsense

01:07:18And there was something else.

01:07:18much clearer

01:07:19but nobody knows

01:07:20that no one has managed to discover

01:07:21Well, there's one thing

01:07:22that never

01:07:22which came to light very little

01:07:24He brought it to light

01:07:25an Italian journalist

01:07:26from the newspaper La República

01:07:29when they stop

01:07:30to Mecmeta Liaska

01:07:32He is stopped by a police officer

01:07:33There is a nun

01:07:35precisely at the moment

01:07:36from the third shot

01:07:37a nun

01:07:38who was next to

01:07:39from Mecmeta Liaska

01:07:40raises his hand

01:07:41and takes her hand

01:07:41with another tourist

01:07:44Mecmeta Liaska

01:07:45run away

01:07:46and the plate

01:07:47He knocks it down

01:07:48a police officer

01:07:49in Italian civilian clothes

01:07:50from then on

01:07:52Liaska

01:07:52happens

01:07:53under control

01:07:54of the secret services

01:07:55Italians

01:07:56who are the ones who

01:07:57they perform

01:07:57the first interrogation

01:07:58Liaska

01:08:00That leads them

01:08:02to an apartment

01:08:03that he occupied

01:08:03with another Turkish citizen

01:08:04Turguz Herbit

01:08:05that

01:08:07mysteriously

01:08:08discover

01:08:09in the apartment

01:08:09when the Italians enter

01:08:10the Italian security force

01:08:11They discover that Turguz Herbit

01:08:13I had a special pass

01:08:14to enter the premises

01:08:15Vatican

01:08:16that is to say

01:08:17that through him

01:08:17they say possibly

01:08:19he was able to find out

01:08:20what time

01:08:20because

01:08:21curiously

01:08:22the

01:08:23the exit

01:08:24What does John Paul II do?

01:08:25May 13

01:08:26It was not planned

01:08:27because he

01:08:28has to receive

01:08:29to a head of state

01:08:30to an African head of state

01:08:32He has to receive it

01:08:33and it seems to be

01:08:34that was not planned

01:08:35that he would leave

01:08:36that May 13th

01:08:37appears to be

01:08:37what they say

01:08:38that someone

01:08:39He gave her information

01:08:39breaking news

01:08:40that's why

01:08:41the theory

01:08:42also that it is handled

01:08:42that they would give him

01:08:43information

01:08:44breaking news

01:08:44that the pope

01:08:45had decided

01:08:46go out to the square

01:08:46Saint Peter

01:08:47and that's when

01:08:48he decides

01:08:49see the possibility

01:08:50whether you can access

01:08:51until John Paul II

01:08:52and as it was not planned

01:08:54in St. Peter's Square

01:08:55There weren't many people.

01:08:56that May 13th

01:08:57And that's why

01:08:57so he gets

01:08:58in the images

01:08:59has been seen

01:09:00the moment

01:09:00I think it's been seen

01:09:01in the images

01:09:02the moment of the shot

01:09:03He has achieved

01:09:04if you realize

01:09:05get very close

01:09:06I think it has

01:09:06maybe two or three people

01:09:08in front of

01:09:08when it's happening

01:09:09the Popemobile

01:09:09and that shovel even

01:09:10They hurt other people

01:09:11I don't remember

01:09:12There are two American tourists

01:09:13which are wounds

01:09:14not in those three shots

01:09:16the three shots

01:09:17indeed

01:09:17Pope is wounded

01:09:18John Paul II

01:09:19Mehmet Ali Azka

01:09:20was identified

01:09:21as a follower

01:09:22of the gray wolves

01:09:23It's also a name

01:09:24that produces a certain chill

01:09:25Who were the gray wolves?

01:09:27a kind of

01:09:28terrorist commandos

01:09:30with many deaths

01:09:31from his back

01:09:31and that we also want to know

01:09:33They are hardly ever talked about anymore

01:09:34but they were truly terrifying

01:09:35in Türkiye

01:09:36and as we see

01:09:37in other parts

01:09:38It was Mehmet Ali Azka

01:09:39a true gray wolf

01:09:41And if it was

01:09:41Who are they?

01:09:42those who hide

01:09:43under this pseudonym?

01:09:46the end of the era

01:09:47of the 70s

01:09:47It's a time

01:09:48bloody and tragic

01:09:50for Türkiye

01:09:50armed groups

01:09:52from the far left

01:09:53They openly confront each other

01:09:55on the streets

01:09:57and also in the fields

01:09:58with groups

01:10:00from the far right

01:10:01in this case

01:10:01the most meaningful

01:10:02It is the one of the gray wolves

01:10:04militants

01:10:06of the Turkish nationalist party

01:10:08the MHP

01:10:09of Absalam Turques

01:10:10and?

01:10:11like all these extremist groups

01:10:14have been able to

01:10:16at some point

01:10:17remote-controlled

01:10:18by foreign secret services

01:10:22Was it paid for by someone?

01:10:24With how much money?

01:10:25With which plans?

01:10:27With what subsequent security?

01:10:28because I'm sure

01:10:29that Aliasca

01:10:30I didn't count

01:10:31that they were going to arrest him

01:10:32right there

01:10:32But how did he attempt it?

01:10:33against the Pope

01:10:34with St. Peter's Square

01:10:36with all its rules

01:10:37basic safety?

01:10:38It's a very curious story.

01:10:40But even more curious

01:10:41is to know

01:10:42certain documents

01:10:43that have been coming out

01:10:43in drops

01:10:44a letter, Eric

01:10:45For example

01:10:45yes that's how it is

01:10:46There is a letter

01:10:48that sends

01:10:48Mehmet Aliasca himself

01:10:50to a newspaper

01:10:51from Türkiye

01:10:51in the year 79

01:10:52He calls

01:10:53He defines John Paul II

01:10:55like the great commander

01:10:56of the crusade

01:10:56and he threatens

01:10:57by killing the Pope

01:10:58in case John Paul II

01:11:00step on Turkish soil

01:11:02as the soil of Islam

01:11:03he says in the letter

01:11:04curiously

01:11:05that letter

01:11:05is sent

01:11:06to a media outlet

01:11:07to a newspaper

01:11:09a chain of newspapers

01:11:10which was quite

01:11:11pro-Western

01:11:12The letter is published

01:11:14There is a reaction

01:11:15by the editor

01:11:16to that letter

01:11:18the editor

01:11:19answer

01:11:20in a column

01:11:21to that letter

01:11:21by Mehmet Aliasca

01:11:22and Mehmet Aliasca

01:11:24He kills him

01:11:25kills the editor

01:11:26And that's why

01:11:27Therefore, he is fulfilling his obligations.

01:11:28currently condemned

01:11:29in Türkiye

01:11:29in a Turkish prison

01:11:30for the murder of the editor

01:11:32well first

01:11:33What do you think happened?

01:11:34Who was pulling the strings?

01:11:35of this strange puppet

01:11:36What if it was a puppet?

01:11:38because a madman alone

01:11:39It seems too strange.

01:11:40too strange

01:11:41too strange

01:11:43Well, there are different versions.

01:11:44the most widespread version

01:11:47who have even denied it

01:11:48great scholars

01:11:49from the history of the KGB

01:11:51It's the KGB

01:11:52was behind

01:11:54used the services

01:11:54Bulgarian secrets

01:11:55to establish contact

01:11:57with the gray wolves

01:11:57to kill John Paul II

01:11:59through the intervention

01:12:00of the Vatican State

01:12:01which was very important

01:12:02to end the government

01:12:04pro-communist

01:12:05by Jaruzelski

01:12:05in Poland

01:12:06and support the union

01:12:07Solidarity

01:12:08by Lech Walesa

01:12:09Then there's another version

01:12:10which is quite widespread

01:12:12primarily through

01:12:13by Gordon Thomas

01:12:13Gordon Thomas

01:12:14is one of the

01:12:15best historians

01:12:17about history

01:12:17of Israeli espionage

01:12:19he assures

01:12:19than the gray wolves

01:12:20They were financed by Iran

01:12:21and that it was simply

01:12:23an order

01:12:23given by the Ayatollah

01:12:25Khomeini

01:12:26to kill John Paul II

01:12:27That's another version

01:12:29that is told

01:12:29which tells it mainly

01:12:30Gordon Thomas defends him

01:12:32but everything remains

01:12:33a mystery

01:12:33By the way, we're seeing

01:12:34images from a series

01:12:35of documents

01:12:36of web pages

01:12:38Vatican Archives

01:12:39It seems good

01:12:40There is also a lot of fascination

01:12:42with this matter

01:12:42How many things are stored there

01:12:44they say that now

01:12:45Some will be brought to light

01:12:46You know this story

01:12:47Eric

01:12:47the Vatican Archives

01:12:48It will have as much as it says.

01:12:50You can really see it

01:12:51I want the listeners

01:12:53and viewers

01:12:54Let the people of Cuarto Milenio know.

01:12:55there continue to be some areas

01:12:56that probably never

01:12:58be known by no one

01:12:59you in order to access

01:13:00to the Vatican Library

01:13:01you need first

01:13:02a permit

01:13:03or an identification

01:13:04that you are a researcher

01:13:05You have to present

01:13:08quite a few important letters

01:13:10of important people

01:13:10that I recommend

01:13:11to enter the Vatican Library

01:13:12which is, let's say

01:13:13the public part of the Vatican

01:13:15another of the documents

01:13:16very important

01:13:17what do you need

01:13:18It's a letter from your parish priest.

01:13:19where it says

01:13:20that you are a good Catholic

01:13:22You are a good Christian

01:13:23and you can have access

01:13:23to that Vatican department

01:13:26once you've achieved it

01:13:27you can access

01:13:28to a certain sector

01:13:29from the Vatican

01:13:30because?

01:13:31because the Vatican

01:13:31It does not have a law.

01:13:33declassification

01:13:33of documents

01:13:34as it has

01:13:35every Democratic State

01:13:36USA

01:13:37He is 50 years old

01:13:38based on a document

01:13:39classified

01:13:40I think Spain

01:13:41He is 100 years old

01:13:41etc

01:13:42The Vatican State does not

01:13:44then

01:13:44has an apartment

01:13:46an apartment

01:13:47What is the Vatican Secret Archives?

01:13:49the Vatican Secret Archives

01:13:50that's where they are included

01:13:51are introduced

01:13:53all documents

01:13:54that the Vatican State

01:13:55doesn't want to

01:13:56that nobody reads

01:13:57only to that access

01:13:59have access

01:14:00only the Pope

01:14:01to that Vatican Secret Archives

01:14:03the Vatican Secretary of State

01:14:06and the

01:14:07he

01:14:16alliance

01:14:16five centuries

01:14:17espionage

01:14:17Vatican

01:14:18a story

01:14:19very little known

01:14:20many documents

01:14:21of these spies

01:14:21Vatican

01:14:22along

01:14:22of the last

01:14:23500 years

01:14:23They were in that file

01:14:24And I ask you

01:14:25Do they give you permission?

01:14:26as a researcher

01:14:27journalist

01:14:28enter the Vatican Archives

01:14:29in that secret place

01:14:31What comes first?

01:14:32that you would look for

01:14:33on any topic

01:14:34Vatican?

01:14:35perhaps about the attack

01:14:36of peace

01:14:36or any other

01:14:37or any other story

01:14:38clear

01:14:38is what you think

01:14:39that there are files

01:14:40But where exactly would you go?

01:14:41Well

01:14:42as of May 13

01:14:42For example

01:14:43to find out who

01:14:44What did he tell her?

01:14:45mostly

01:14:46alias

01:14:47at that meeting

01:14:47December 1983

01:14:48me to write this book

01:14:50I asked on 14 occasions

01:14:52the entrance

01:14:53in the Vatican Library

01:14:54not in the Secret Archives

01:14:55What did they tell you?

01:14:56and on all 14 occasions

01:14:58they sent me

01:14:59even good

01:14:59I have the letters saved

01:15:01for example

01:15:01that were under renovation

01:15:03that at that moment

01:15:04the head librarian

01:15:05who is a Spaniard

01:15:06a Spanish abbot

01:15:07I wasn't there at that time.

01:15:08available to help me

01:15:10in the documents

01:15:10that I needed

01:15:11that is to say

01:15:12They gave me some big ones

01:15:13diplomatic responses

01:15:14Vatican

01:15:15Eric

01:15:16I hope that in the future

01:15:17and that you come and tell

01:15:18the Fourth Millennium

01:15:18Let's learn more

01:15:19Vatican secrets

01:15:20and above all

01:15:21let's know

01:15:22what we were starting

01:15:23wondering all of us

01:15:24What conversation took place

01:15:25between the Pope

01:15:25And alias?

01:15:27Why the result

01:15:28of those words

01:15:28that make the Pope pale in comparison

01:15:30Are they an eternal secret?

01:15:32Perhaps one day we will discover it.

01:15:32Eric

01:15:33welcome

01:15:34And thank you.

01:15:34to Fourth Millennium

01:15:35This is your home

01:15:36and until next time

01:15:36thank you so much

01:15:37good night

01:15:37by the way

01:15:38that we were talking about

01:15:40of a character

01:15:41whose face has appeared

01:15:42whose face

01:15:43whose effigy

01:15:44on all the covers

01:15:45of newspapers

01:15:45a face that

01:15:46psychologists

01:15:48and psychiatrists

01:15:48I'm sure they have

01:15:49fertilized field

01:15:50to dissect

01:15:51and draw their conclusions

01:15:52for many

01:15:53He's a schizoid.

01:15:54a madman

01:15:55a maniac

01:15:56with paranoid delusions

01:15:58sure

01:15:59We are sure of it

01:16:00or is it a character

01:16:01much colder

01:16:01intelligent

01:16:02and calculator

01:16:03psychiatrists

01:16:04as I say

01:16:05They have their own opinion

01:16:08the profile would face

01:16:09the person who attacked

01:16:11against the pope

01:16:11is fundamentally

01:16:13the one of

01:16:13that of a being

01:16:15fanatic

01:16:16a fanatic

01:16:17fundamentally

01:16:17is a person

01:16:18who hates himself

01:16:19a frustrated person

01:16:21with his way of being

01:16:22that does not appreciate

01:16:23their internal values

01:16:24by not appreciating

01:16:25their internal values

01:16:26because he doesn't like himself

01:16:27What it does is

01:16:28something very simple

01:16:29adopts external values

01:16:31many times

01:16:32the values of an ideal

01:16:33of a cause

01:16:34of a religion

01:16:36even of a profession

01:16:37he becomes a fan of them

01:16:39because it begins to create

01:16:40what should have been

01:16:40turned in on itself

01:16:41he flips it

01:16:42about other things

01:16:44that frustration

01:16:45It's so intense

01:16:46and on the other hand

01:16:47that fanaticism

01:16:47It's so brutal

01:16:49which on many occasions

01:16:50he even goes so far as to deny it

01:16:51of reality

01:16:52because if reality

01:16:53does not match

01:16:54with what the fan thinks

01:16:55is immediately rejected

01:16:57that makes it flesh

01:16:58cannon

01:16:59obviously

01:16:59for any lost cause

01:17:01to immolate oneself

01:17:02at a given moment

01:17:03in a car

01:17:03since it's going to be

01:17:04the greatest

01:17:05what can you do

01:17:06in his life

01:17:081 and 3

01:17:09Key 13

01:17:10I am convinced

01:17:11that they have stayed

01:17:12with the data

01:17:12it gives the impression

01:17:13that in all this story

01:17:14in history

01:17:15of John Paul II

01:17:16it is repeated macabrely

01:17:17this digit

01:17:18It's also curious

01:17:19that in a place

01:17:20full of mysteries

01:17:21like Fatima

01:17:22that number

01:17:23also had

01:17:24a presence

01:17:25extremely important

01:17:25our colleague

01:17:26Carmen Porter

01:17:27He carried out exhaustive work

01:17:29in his book

01:17:29Mysteries of the Church

01:17:30and found data

01:17:31that will surprise you

01:17:32Carmen

01:17:33all of them data

01:17:34related

01:17:35with that date

01:17:35that you mentioned earlier

01:17:37Iker

01:17:37with the number 13

01:17:38It is precisely on May 13th

01:17:39of 1917

01:17:40when three shepherd boys

01:17:42allegedly

01:17:43appears to them

01:17:44the Virgin

01:17:45in a field

01:17:46in Leiria

01:17:47in Portugal

01:17:47It is October 13th

01:17:49when that same image

01:17:50He says something is going to happen

01:17:51that a miracle is going to happen

01:17:52who will be witnesses

01:17:53all people

01:17:54in this case

01:17:55There were thousands

01:17:55those who gathered

01:17:56in that field

01:17:58Something would happen

01:17:59Something would be seen

01:18:00in the sky

01:18:00and indeed

01:18:01a ball of light

01:18:03which also emitted heat

01:18:04because it dried up all the soil

01:18:05that it was wet

01:18:06because of the heavy rain

01:18:07that had fallen

01:18:08that morning

01:18:08and the people's clothes

01:18:09They dried in an instant

01:18:11Iker

01:18:11It was the famous Sun Dance

01:18:12from that old year 1917

01:18:14we create a link

01:18:15if you agree

01:18:16Until next time, the 13th

01:18:17St. Peter's Square

01:18:19They've seen it

01:18:20Aliasca attack

01:18:21in the heart

01:18:23from the Vatican

01:18:23but a year later

01:18:25an event

01:18:26more shadowed

01:18:27May 13

01:18:28again

01:18:29This time in Fatima

01:18:30John Paul II was there

01:18:32visiting

01:18:33when a priest

01:18:34Spanish fundamentalist

01:18:35Juan Fernández Crón

01:18:36He attempts another attack.

01:18:38against the Holy Pontiff

01:18:39in this case

01:18:40with a knife

01:18:40large dimensions

01:18:41precisely John Paul II

01:18:43I was going to deposit

01:18:45that bullet

01:18:46than a medal

01:18:47of Our Lady of Fatima

01:18:48had diverted

01:18:49from his own chest

01:18:50from his own heart

01:18:51But there's more.

01:18:52Day 13 in this story

01:18:53May 13

01:18:54from the year 2000

01:18:55they meet

01:18:56to thousands of people

01:18:57hundreds of journalists

01:18:58in Fatima

01:18:59because it will be revealed

01:19:00the third secret

01:19:02in that third secret

01:19:03That's all that's said.

01:19:04and nothing less

01:19:04that was already written

01:19:05that Aliasca

01:19:06he was going to attack

01:19:07in 1981

01:19:08against Pope John Paul

01:19:09And finally

01:19:10day 13

01:19:10a date

01:19:11with a funereal key

01:19:12death

01:19:14of the last

01:19:14of the seers

01:19:15He left us last year

01:19:16also on the 13th

01:19:17Sister Lucia died

01:19:19and the secret of Fatima

01:19:20part of that secret

01:19:22He went to his grave

01:19:22with her

01:19:23a story

01:19:24Don't tell me no

01:19:25truly worthy

01:19:26to be analyzed

01:19:27detail by detail

01:19:28how we analyze

01:19:30the photographs

01:19:30that reach us

01:19:31some leave us

01:19:32speechless

01:19:33I must admit

01:19:34that when I opened

01:19:35the photograph

01:19:36that he sent us

01:19:37from Teror

01:19:38in Gran Canaria

01:19:38Paqui López Ramírez

01:19:40I was left a little cold

01:19:41in front of the screen

01:19:42from the computer

01:19:42I saw the face

01:19:43of a child

01:19:44without eyes

01:19:45who laughed

01:19:45she smiled

01:19:46in front of the camera

01:19:47Paqui was very scared

01:19:48he asked us

01:19:49what could it be

01:19:50that she was

01:19:50in communion

01:19:51of his nephew

01:19:52and had done

01:19:52that photograph

01:19:53and that child

01:19:54I couldn't be there

01:19:55what we are going to do

01:19:56is to analyze

01:19:57the photograph

01:19:58to give it

01:19:58all the data

01:19:59that we can

01:20:00to this person

01:20:01and at least

01:20:02relieve a little

01:20:03that anguish

01:20:04which still maintains

01:20:04that scare

01:20:05with Guillermo León

01:20:06at the head

01:20:06We will try to find out

01:20:07who is hiding

01:20:08Who is that white child?

01:20:10If you have photos like this

01:20:11They already know

01:20:11two basic directions

01:20:13two ways of contact

01:20:14first as always

01:20:15via email

01:20:16on Cuarto Milenio

01:20:17at4.com

01:20:18And of course

01:20:19a post office box

01:20:20so that they send us

01:20:21whatever you wish

01:20:22It is 18189

01:20:24by entering the postal code

01:20:2628080 Madrid

01:20:27And since I don't believe

01:20:29no way

01:20:29in chance

01:20:30I summon you

01:20:31to our next broadcast

01:20:32to our next trip

01:20:33with the mystery ship

01:20:34will be the program

01:20:35number 13

01:20:37They already know

01:20:38are

01:20:38Fourth Millennium

01:21:18Thank you!

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