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Hoch explains why he understands the decision by Marlins manager Clayton McCullough to pull Eury Perez after 7 innings but totally disagrees with it.
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00:00Um, so Clayton McCullough pulls Yuri yesterday, six out shy from completing a perfect game.
00:06He had thrown 92 pitches.
00:08Here's the context.
00:09He'd thrown 92 pitches, but it was his third start following a month where he didn't play
00:14baseball because of a thigh injury.
00:17Aside from that, the game got out of hand.
00:21Um, Lake Bakar, who they brought in, walked the first batter, gives up two hits and then
00:29gives up a grand slam before there were zero outs.
00:32So it could, it couldn't have worked worse was crazy.
00:35And then, and then, cause he left him in McCullough left him in, I think for five earned runs.
00:40Yeah.
00:41And then McCullough is telling you and all these Marlins pundits are telling you, you know,
00:44Oh no, this is about winning games.
00:46This isn't about personal accolades.
00:48I'm like, well, it's about winning games.
00:49How about you get Lake out of there a little quicker?
00:52Cause you seem to be riding with him.
00:54You seem to have immediately forgotten.
00:57It's, it's about winning games.
00:58All of a sudden it was eight, five ended up winning nine, eight.
01:04I may or may not have been rooting for Oakland at the end of that game.
01:10Yeah.
01:11I can see both sides of this.
01:13You have a plan.
01:14Uri already towards what he tore his elbow up.
01:17Now he was out.
01:17He was injured.
01:18You had a pitch count on him, but also there are times in baseball or hell baseball times.
01:24And sports that are special that we'll talk about that 83 point game with the wizards.
01:29What did that mean to, to the heat organization?
01:32Nothing at all, but we're going to remember it.
01:35Bam's 83 points for the rest of our life.
01:37We'll remember a perfect game.
01:41Like we talk about Randy damn Johnson, who I don't even know if he's alive still.
01:45That's where you have to figure it out.
01:47Clayton.
01:48That's like Eric's bullshit, taking Bam out, not at the end of the third quarter,
01:52but taking him out when he got to 77 points, midway through the fourth.
01:56Like letting him flirt with it.
01:58And the thing that annoys me is because, you know, I had this argument with Appel yesterday
02:04on text, and he's like, hey, he's coming off injury, and I get it.
02:10I get why you would pull someone.
02:13And by the way, I would be okay with it if it was just a no-hitter.
02:18If it was just a no-hitter, I would be okay with them taking him out after 92 pitches.
02:25A perfect game has been thrown 24 times in the history of baseball.
02:33That's crazy.
02:34You're not going to get that opportunity again when you're a pitcher.
02:38I understand the concept of having a pitch limit at 90.
02:43There are no plans in the world that you can't deviate from in extraordinary circumstances.
02:53And these were extraordinary circumstances, in my opinion.
02:57I looked it up yesterday.
02:59I had to AI it.
03:00You know how many pitchers have been pulled whilst pitching a perfect game
03:07through seven or more innings?
03:11Three.
03:12Two.
03:13Three now.
03:14Three now.
03:15With Uri.
03:16Two in the history of baseball had ever been pulled.
03:20In the history of baseball, and McCullough was part of both of them, by the way,
03:24because he pulled Clayton Kershaw in L.A.
03:27He wasn't the manager, but he was part of that staff.
03:29But I just found that to be an embarrassing, gutless move, saying,
03:37oh, pitch count over 90, we can't have him do that.
03:40I get it.
03:41I get that 99 out of 100 times.
03:43You can become the 25th person in the history of baseball to throw a perfect game.
03:50You've got to get through two innings.
03:52You're telling me that Uri Perez, if he throws 92 innings, 92 pitches, or 123 pitches,
04:01that's going to be the difference between you making the playoffs or not?
04:06Sorry.
04:06I just don't buy it.
04:08Bad decision.
04:10Analytics and emotion shouldn't be on the same plane.
04:15And that's what happens.
04:16Where you're thinking emotionally about it, you could be the 25th guy.
04:20Like, come on, let him go.
04:22He's dealing right now.
04:23Hell, 95, 101, what are we talking about?
04:27I'm pulling him at 90.
04:29When he hits 90, I'm pulling him.
04:31I planned on that yesterday.
04:32I planned on that two weeks ago.
04:34So what do you do?
04:35You go with emotion or you go with your analytic plan?
04:37Like I say, you can have a plan and stick to it 99 out of 100 times.
04:43You cannot tell me that plans can never be deviated from under any circumstance.
04:49We see it all the time in sports.
04:52You can come into a football game with the thought of we're going to run it up the middle.
04:56We're going to run it up the middle.
04:57We're going to run it up the middle.
04:58And you've beaten him six times on the outside.
05:02And you go, you know what?
05:03I think I'm going to stick with that because it's working.
05:06Yuri Perez was working yesterday.
05:08It was working.
05:09He was working.
05:10He was doing something that you don't ever see.
05:13And Clayton McCullough stole it from him.
05:16Again, I get the decision.
05:19I don't agree with it.
05:21And that's where people are getting caught up.
05:23They want to explain it to me over and over.
05:25I get it.
05:27I disagree with it.
05:30But wearing my Marlins lid, I'm a huge fan of what they're doing this season.
05:37They have been an unbelievable bright spot.
05:40They're flirting with the wild card.
05:42They're probably going to be buyers.
05:44So I'm a huge Marlins fan and a believer in what's going on.
05:49He made a terrible decision yesterday.
05:53By the way, Mike McDaniel made a terrible decision, not scoring 73 against Denver.
05:59He did what McCullough did, which was you flirted with something.
06:04And for no apparent reason, you just decided to bail on it.
06:08Mike McDaniel, that season was an exciting season.
06:14He made a mistake in that game.
06:16McCullough made, in my opinion, a huge mistake yesterday.
06:217-3 on the 10-game road trip.
06:25Playing good baseball.
06:28I'll be the nerd here.
06:3295th pitch, he messes up his elbow.
06:35Yeah, but when has he gotten injured in the past?
06:39He just came off of injury.
06:41I understand.
06:41Did it happen on the 40th pitch?
06:4452nd pitch?
06:45Yeah.
06:45Does it always happen with him at the 93rd pitch and above?
06:49I would probably say no.
06:51You can get injured at any time, anywhere.
06:54You can't throw a perfect game, almost ever, 24 times in the history of the oldest sport.
07:05And had he walked a batter or given up a hit?
07:08Boom!
07:09Yeah, it's done.
07:10It's done.
07:11It's that simple.
07:13Crazy.
07:14Just lame.
07:14It was just lame.
07:15Lame.
07:16Lame decision.
07:16Lame.
07:18Weak.
07:18Spoh would have kept him in.
07:20Yep.
07:21But you're right, by the way, Marlins are 49 and 42 overall, 23 and 8 since June 1st.
07:26They do deserve a ton of credit.
07:28They're off today.
07:29They're going to have a six-game homestand prior to the All-Star break.
07:33Otto Lopez, Max Meyer are going to represent the fish in the All-Star game.
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