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Perfect summer out of sight? The Miami Marlins set a franchise record with their 12th straight loss, falling to the San Diego Padres 5 to 3. This leads the guys to once again question the leadership of Clayton McCullough.
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00:05Dude, let me just say this.
00:13When you're going through this, right,
00:17and you've done all of the book work to win games,
00:23you haven't noticed sometimes a coach say,
00:25you know what, I just need to go off the book.
00:26I need to do something a little different.
00:28Yep.
00:30Right.
00:31Like, why?
00:35Well, who does he trust in this?
00:36He bringing the dirty pitcher.
00:39Does he not, like, I'm telling you.
00:41You just don't, you look at, you look at Lake Bakker
00:43and you're just like, I don't trust that guy.
00:45He just looks, he, he, like, like, I'm like,
00:50I can't explain it.
00:51He should be noodling.
00:52He does look like, he does look like a noodler.
00:55That's true.
00:56And he does it every time.
00:59Like, every time he comes into a game.
01:01Like, he looks, he looks nervous.
01:03He just looks nervous.
01:04He's like, should I be here right now?
01:06Like, the eyes are bright.
01:07His name is Lake.
01:09He's got the Duck Dynasty hair.
01:11And yesterday he got teed up for two home.
01:14I was, uh, I was out and about yesterday because I was watching most of the game.
01:17And then my daughter, you know, we had high school orientation this week.
01:21Oh, wow.
01:23Yeah.
01:23She's very, she wants to try out for, for cheerleaders.
01:26She goes, well, can I go get some stuff at Dick's Sporting Goods?
01:28I was like, yeah, sure.
01:29For cheerleading?
01:30Yeah.
01:30Like, you know, like athletic gear and all that type of stuff, like tops and whatnot to
01:33work out and to get, uh, to get herself ready to go.
01:36I said, and I'm like looking, I'm watching a three, one game.
01:39I'm like, am I really not going to spend time with my kids over a Marlins game?
01:42So I'll listen to it in the car.
01:43I was listening to Jack McMullen, uh, on the way to Dick's Sporting Goods, which is
01:47very close to my house.
01:48It's only like 10 minutes away.
01:49I go in, we didn't spend an exorbitant amount of time in Dick's Sporting Goods, probably 15
01:56minutes.
01:57So within like 20 minutes, I come in leading all good.
02:04I get back in my car, fire it up.
02:08And I just hear, and that'll make it four, three.
02:13Padres.
02:13I'm like, what?
02:15Uh, what happened?
02:17What do you mean?
02:19I'm going to tell you what happened.
02:20Let's spot us.
02:23But, but here's what happens to this team and it's happened earlier, but they were able
02:29to overcome it, right?
02:31Everything will be going just fine.
02:34Pitchers dealing couple of tough spots.
02:37And then we get in the sixth and seventh inning and the pitcher throw eight straight balls.
02:42Walk two guys, home run, home run, give up four or five runs.
02:46It's happened one inning in, in most of these games, because these games had not been blowouts
02:53early.
02:54It's been like, you know, tight.
02:57It's been, they've gotten out of jams, double plays, timely hits, all this stuff.
03:03They've basically been playing for six or seven innings, a regular two, one filthy, or they have a two run
03:11lead.
03:11Yeah.
03:12And then there's that one inning where they bring in.
03:15And it's always a new pitcher.
03:17It's always a new pitcher that comes in and throws eight straight balls.
03:22It's been rough.
03:23It's been rough.
03:24I mean, they, they've, they've lost.
03:25I mean, when you lose a record amount, dude, not the, not 1998, not any of the hundred loss
03:31seasons in Marlins history.
03:33Have they lost 12 in a row?
03:34Have they lost 12 in a row?
03:36A record.
03:38And it's so crazy.
03:40Cause it's like, wow.
03:42So that was just a complete, like, was that just a complete mirage?
03:46No, here's, here's the thing.
03:48Here's the thing.
03:49And you do this and, and, and I'm going to be fair.
03:53You do this after the fact.
03:57Okay.
03:58A lot of these games they were playing in, right?
04:03Those balls they were hitting were getting through and they were tacking on runs.
04:08The pitchers were getting into how many times were the bases loaded with no outs and the
04:13pitcher comes in and boom, boom, boom out of the ending with no runs.
04:17There were a lot of things that were working in their favor that the same situations present
04:24themselves.
04:25And now they're not.
04:26Well, I mean, the hitting is definitely gone in the toilet.
04:28They're hitting scoring three runs for them during this losing streak.
04:33That might, that might as well have been 10 for them the way that they've been producing
04:36lately.
04:37I mean, they have not been putting up a lot of runs.
04:39They haven't scored a lot of runs.
04:41And, and I guess when that happens, there's more pressure on the pitching.
04:47Right.
04:47Everybody's got to be pressure.
04:48And it doesn't fail that, you know, a month ago we were saying, whoo, he threw that right
04:55down the middle of the plate and they only got a foul tip and now they're hitting it 400
04:59feet.
05:02Yeah.
05:02It's just, you almost would have just rather had a regular June and you could have stomached
05:07this more.
05:07Cause you just like, you worked your way up to this incredible record month, 20 and six.
05:13And you're just like, wow, what this, this, it feels like this is, this is going to be
05:19a special summer and it's not like you had a regular fall off.
05:25You had a historic fall off.
05:27This is a falling out of the plane and your parachute doesn't, doesn't eject.
05:32Like it's terrible.
05:33I don't even like, and they got the Phillies in town tonight.
05:38Right.
05:39Like how bad does this get?
05:40The thing is, is that.
05:43And, and, and I trust old Skipper is looking at the book, but I know that most managers
05:52that have been down here, well, you would have heard had to go with a gut, got to change
05:57it up, got to do something off book, got to just do something like just to invigorate all
06:05the guys who, who just, you know, even your players do something different, do something
06:10different to, to, to, to activate your players, to, to, to, to put a charge in them, like
06:15something.
06:17Right.
06:18We're still going through the book.
06:20Oh, lefty, lefty, righty, righty.
06:23They're trying some things like, you know, like Marcy's definitely gotten the hook.
06:28Like he is not getting his regular.
06:29Cause they were, I mean, they, they trotted Marcy out there, rain or shine, no matter what.
06:33I mean, they were putting them out there.
06:35So they like, and eventually you just have to be like, yeah, you just can't do this anymore.
06:39The guy has been a sieve all year in the lineup when we all thought he was going to be
06:42great.
06:43He stinks this year.
06:44It's not, it's just, it is what it is.
06:46I mean, we're at the end of July.
06:48Do you go with him a little bit longer because he's been making some plays in the field?
06:53I think they gave him enough rope of that already.
06:56Like we're at, we're going to be in August next week.
06:58You know, there's, there's two months left in the season, but I just, I don't know, man.
07:04Cause, cause the odds are a June isn't around to get yourself out of this.
07:08Like just, we were talking about this weekend, like, man, could you win one?
07:11They couldn't win one.
07:13And it's not like the Padres are.
07:14And they were not like they were blowing them out either.
07:16It's like, this is, I would say what makes this stretch worse is at no point in time.
07:26Did they just get blown out?
07:29It's been one inning.
07:31It's been one bad stretch of baseball that maybe last 20 minutes.
07:37Well, I think that goes back to what I was talking about.
07:39I know you and I got into it a little bit last week where I was talking about the sense
07:42of urgency from the team.
07:43And I get it.
07:44It's easy to talk about a sense of urgency when you lose eight in a row, but like a lot
07:49of people were pissed off at Clayton because his demeanor is always to be sunshines and rainbows.
07:53Like after these games, even after 11 straight, he seems fine.
07:56Now he kind of got broken a little bit yesterday, a little different, but this is one of those
08:02where like, he's not a fire, you know, in the ass type of guy.
08:05He's just not like, that's not how Clayton McCullough operates.
08:08So very few baseball guys that are like that though.
08:11Now they need that, you know, some, this would have been one of those where like a guy should
08:15have gone and broken the ABS.
08:17Somebody should have stolen a, somebody should have gone a Lloyd McClendon and taken the base
08:21away.
08:22Somebody here's the deal though.
08:23Baseball is you're failing most of the time.
08:26So how do you approach?
08:27Well, this is all of the time.
08:28This is not, this is not most of the time.
08:30No, but I'm saying in general, in general, in general, you have to know those times.
08:34Like you have to know those times when it's time to, to, to pull out the lose your mind
08:38card.
08:38You have to know that that's part of managing when you have to get a little bit crazy.
08:42It's part of it to know when to pull the trigger on that type of stuff.
08:45I think it's a, it's a tough spot if it's not who you are.
08:50And it's a tough spot when keep in mind, most of the guys you're talking to are already failing
08:5670% of the time.
08:58And now they're struggling to, to even get to that number.
09:02Yeah.
09:03I'm not even talking about, but I'm not even talking about ripping your players.
09:05Just do something to the manager, do something to show that you got, get mad at the situation.
09:11Not at the players.
09:12Just show you got a pulse.
09:13And I just, I just think with Clayton, it's kind of just like, Oh, we're trying.
09:18The guys are trying.
09:19Yeah.
09:20We're doing our best.
09:20I know what you're saying.
09:21You went after these games.
09:23Like he's just like, you wouldn't, you wouldn't know that guy was mired in a, in the, in a
09:27franchise losing streak.
09:28No, he finally cursed yesterday.
09:30Finally.
09:31Finally.
09:31Like, cause everybody talked about him after game 11 and they were like, dude, you got to act
09:35like you give a, I think, I think what, here's what, if I can kind of get what you're saying.
09:44And I would say all these guys are extreme competitors.
09:48When you get to that level, you're extreme, extreme competitor.
09:52And the anger that you should see from him is from a competition aspect of it.
09:59Yeah.
10:00And not, and not necessarily X's and O's.
10:03Like I'm just pissed off.
10:04Your players are your players.
10:06I'm just pissed off.
10:06I'm losing.
10:07I'm not saying we got to fix it.
10:09I don't know what the hell's going on, but this isn't, this isn't fun.
10:14And, and I'm tired of it.
10:15Like, it's that your players are your players.
10:18I'm not suggesting you can bench everybody.
10:20I'm not saying you got to rip, but I mean like, dude, it's the thing with me with this
10:25losing streak and everybody's kind of acted like it.
10:28It was like, well, they've been in these games.
10:29It's like, okay, but what, like at what, when is the line when you lose?
10:34Like, is it eight in a row?
10:36Is it nine in a row?
10:36Clearly now it took a franchise record to get any kind of pulse out of the guy.
10:41Oh, record.
10:43And that's, that's, that to me is like, you got to have a, as the leader of the organization,
10:48as the man who is supposed to be having these guys ready to go, it's gotta be a little bit
10:54more dire than get to a record for the franchise for you to feel like, oh man, I need, I
11:00should
11:00throw out some no, no words.
11:01You know, it's funny.
11:03Everything went left the minute management said, oh yeah, we're all in.
11:07I know Bruce Sherman's doing interviews with, uh, you know, he's feeling himself, you know,
11:13is that Leroy?
11:14Yeah.
11:14I've been so noticed that, but yeah, the minute they said they were all in, they're not, they're
11:19going to be active in the trading deadline to try to bring people.
11:23And then, you know, that's when the whole shop for trout started.
11:26Yeah.
11:27Yeah.
11:28And then everything's gone left.
11:29It's gone hell.
11:30It's gone to hell in a handbasket.
11:31It's, it's been, it's been terrible.
11:33And, you know, not to mention like the, if this is where it's all going to end and like
11:37they have a very, very tough August coming up, but a lot of all the, all the teams that
11:42they're either chasing or on.
11:44Yeah.
11:44Yeah.
11:45It's not going to be easy sledding is this is not, this does not have an obvious look
11:49of like, Hey, not that they'd be beating anybody.
11:51They can't beat anybody right now.
11:53I mean, you could probably put them out there with the worst of the worst right now.
11:56And the Marlins are being too, what's amazing about baseball is, would you be shocked if
12:01they won two out of three from the Philly?
12:04Yeah, actually I would, I would, I actually could tell you, yes, I wouldn't be shocked.
12:08I wouldn't because, because it's like, I don't know if it's a, and I never know how
12:15to explain this.
12:16I don't know if it's a talent thing because I would always say in football, the difference
12:21between Superbowl champ, a playoff team and a team that runs far is the ability to be consistent
12:34with how you play.
12:35Every player in the NFL has an opportunity or has the talent to have a day, right?
12:43The more days you can put together, the better your team is and so forth.
12:46And so on, it's hard for me to do that in baseball because some of it is so like, just
12:54random with a guy who has one home run, all of a sudden hits two in a game.
12:59And, and so it becomes very random.
13:02And so I don't know if in baseball you can actually, you know, kind of come to the point
13:11where, yeah, if the Marlins were, you know, one of those teams, one of those wildcard
13:18teams, they were able to sustain it.
13:21It's hard to say when they had the June that they had, you know, that they can't.
13:26And now we're here.
13:28So I don't know if that 20 and six is not an anomaly, right?
13:34I think it is, but that's a big, geez, what were they in March?
13:43In March, March, April, March, April, they were mid, they were bad, May, they weren't
13:48bad.
13:49They were bad.
13:49They were bad.
13:50June was the only outlier.
13:51Yeah.
13:51So, so then maybe, maybe we, we all fell for the fool's goal.
13:56Yeah.
13:57Well, there were reports that they said there were some of the organization that
13:59were like, yeah, I don't know.
14:01So the thing with the Marlins is, and I think that what gave me hope is, man, they've
14:05beaten some really good competition this year, as far as pitchers are concerned, some of the
14:08best in the league, you know, it didn't seem like they were, it was how it was like, again,
14:15how they were winning games.
14:18And now when you look at how they're losing games, they just haven't had those same like
14:24moments.
14:25So they haven't gotten out of these innings.
14:27They haven't had these timely hits.
14:29The balls are being hit right to people like it, and it, that's a very, that those are
14:34small margins, man, like small margins.
14:37Even though you went 20 and six, you're having those same situations right now.
14:42And it looks like a dumpster fire.
14:45Yeah.
14:45And again, like, that's cool.
14:47If you're losing, if you told me the Marlins were three and nine, I'll hear you 12 in a
14:52row.
14:53Right.
14:54It's epic.
14:55It's epic.
14:56Like, nobody's saying that it's never been done.
14:58It's never been done.
15:00Nobody's saying it hasn't been bad.
15:01But when you say you've done, here's what I can't figure out.
15:07So I don't know how to measure this or whatever.
15:09You've had the best month of a, of not just your team, but a few teams in years.
15:19Right.
15:20And you follow it up with the most losses ever in a row by your franchise.
15:26It's crazy.
15:26Like, how do you like, as a fan of the Marlins, how do you even like comprehend that you went
15:36from one of the best to the absolute worst in less than 30 days?
15:43We got crypto, bro.
15:44It was a pump and dump.
15:45That's what happened.
15:48We got this new thing.
15:49It's called fish coin.
15:50Invest in it.
15:50Oh, we got the number up.
15:51Just kidding.
15:52It was a Ponzi scheme.
15:54Yeah.
15:55Anyway.
15:56Sorry, Mike Trout.
15:57I guess you're going to be stuck with the Angels.
15:59We'll see you in a couple of weeks when you're at the ballpark.
16:01They're mad too.
16:02Doesn't matter.
16:04Doesn't matter.
16:05He's not bad.
16:06Now he'd laugh at the idea of waving his no trade to come to the Marlins.
16:10The 12th.
16:11No way.
16:12Well, we can always take the Florida angle.
16:15He'll be a Philly or a Yankee.
16:17Even with the 12th game losing streak.
16:19Still in the wild.
16:20I don't want to hear that.
16:21Enough.
16:21If you could basically line the bird that Jay Fig murdered, line the newspaper with those
16:30standings, the wild card standings, and say the Marlins have a shot.
16:32Come on, dude.
16:34I mean, here's what I can't believe, Tobin, and this is what I try to avoid.
16:42It's been less than a month, and your tone was totally different.
16:47Welcome to sports, Leroy.
16:48Yes, when you go 20 and 6 in a month, and then you lose 12 straight, your tone changes.
16:52I understand.
16:53I understand that.
16:55You want me to give you a brochure to sports?
16:57No.
16:58You want a tour?
16:59Again, I understand all this.
17:02Vlad, when were you happier?
17:03When it was back in the day when you guys were terrible Knicks seasons or when you won the championship?
17:08I mean...
17:09Title.
17:12What are we talking about?
17:13Yeah, but Vlad, let me ask you this.
17:17During the course of the season, when the Knicks were kind of going through their little issues,
17:26like, you were up and down with it too, right?
17:29Yeah, you go through the emotions.
17:32Right, because it's a long season.
17:33Right.
17:35But...
17:35That's all I'm saying.
17:36But...
17:37Like, I know it doesn't look like it.
17:40I know it doesn't look like it, but...
17:43But Leroy, 12 games, man?
17:45Yeah, I know.
17:46That's just a little much.
17:48I know.
17:48That's just a little...
17:49Like, okay, fine.
17:50You had a losing streak before the All-Star break, but you were playing so great.
17:53Cool.
17:54You needed a break.
17:55Right.
17:55But to lose nine games after the break, to be the only team in baseball to ever win a game
17:59after the break?
18:00Was Giannis officially on the heat the last time the Marlins won a game?
18:03Dude, it's been...
18:05They said...
18:05What did they say the other day?
18:06It's been, what?
18:0720 days?
18:08Like, it's almost, what?
18:0815, 16 days since they've won?
18:10That's incredible.
18:12More than that, because remember, you had the four days for the...
18:15Oh, the break.
18:16The break.
18:17It's got to be more than 20 days.
18:21The last time the Marlins tasted victory, my God.
18:25It was Thursday.
18:28It was a Thursday in July before the All-Star break.
18:32I hate that they do this stupid thing on ESPN first half, second half.
18:35Just have the whole schedule.
18:36Is it the Guardians?
18:38July 9th.
18:39They get to...
18:40The Mariners.
18:41The Mariners.
18:41That's right.
18:42That's right.
18:43They swept the Mariners.
18:44They were fresh off back-to-back sweeps.
18:46They swept the A's.
18:47Oh, it hasn't been 20 days.
18:48So, they got swept by the Indians.
18:50I mean, the Guardians.
18:51Excuse me.
18:52It's okay.
18:52Pardon yourself.
18:5520 days.
18:56Yep.
18:57Man, it's like...
18:58That's three weeks, man.
18:59I know.
19:00That's an epic.
19:01I'm just...
19:02You know how hard that is?
19:03Vlad, I'm just...
19:05And maybe it's the athlete in me.
19:09Like, you play something for six months, and in 20 days, your rat's off a ship?
19:13Fab.
19:13What about me?
19:14I know!
19:15I've got you ups and downs.
19:16I've seen my team not lose in the NBA playoffs for like 30 days, right?
19:21Yeah, yeah.
19:22That's great.
19:22Now, I'm working for a team that I haven't seen win in three weeks.
19:28Listen, I'm not saying that everybody should calm down.
19:33I'm not saying everybody is wrong.
19:35I'm not saying you shouldn't feel how you feel.
19:37I'm just saying...
19:41And the 20 and 6 doesn't help my argument.
19:44Me saying it's a long season...
19:47Like, it seems like this lasted a month and a half.
19:50These last 12 games, it seems like they haven't won a game in a month and a half.
19:53Shemitah's right.
19:54They've been 0-10 since Halfley threw the first pitch.
19:57Yeah, but it's...
19:58But they also have 12...
19:59And then he says apologize to me.
20:01He's been on this Halfley curse for a while.
20:03Everybody's been getting blamed for a curse.
20:05Minervini got blamed for a curse because he filled in on that Guardians weekend.
20:09Everyone's getting blamed for curses.
20:11I don't think that...
20:11I don't know.
20:12I don't know what this is.
20:14This has been a rough go.
20:16It could be the curse of Giannis.
20:17They haven't won since Giannis been a Heat player.
20:19Hmm.
20:20I'll take it.
20:21I know you will.
20:22I was going to say, I'll take it.
20:23I'll take it.
20:24I'll take it.
20:24I saw that the first round picks did first pitches.
20:26That didn't do anything.
20:27I honestly want the Dolphins to stay right now away from the Marlins
20:30because they had the two first rounders out there yesterday
20:32throwing the first pitches simultaneously.
20:33I'm like, oh, careful.
20:34I need you guys ready for training camp.
20:37But truthfully told...
20:38How did that baseball look in Proctor's hand?
20:40Tiny.
20:42Like a tic-tac.
20:43Like a tic-tac.
20:43Like a tic-tac.
20:43Like a tic-tac.
20:43Like a tic-tac.
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