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Robert Woeger is an American Christian author, minister, digital ministry pioneer, evangelist, podcast creator, writer, and producer whose work centers on helping people know Jesus Christ, believe God’s Word, pray with faith, speak Scripture with confidence, and live in agreement with God.

Active in Christian digital ministry since 1995, Robert has used websites, books, podcasts, videos, online teachings, prayer resources, and faith-based media to encourage readers and listeners in salvation, prayer, healing, spiritual growth, holiness, God’s Glory, and victorious Christian living. He is the author of more than 40 Christian books and the creator, writer, producer, and host of Faithclip, a Christian podcast series featuring short Bible-based teachings on faith, prayer, healing, encouragement, and speaking words in agreement with Scripture.

Robert Woeger’s public mission is to deliver hope to a lost and dying world through Bible-based books, Christian teachings, digital evangelism, podcast media, faith-building resources, and online content that points people to Jesus Christ.

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00:09Robert Woger and I'm so excited. I'm a Christian minister and author and digital ministry pioneer
00:17and I'm so excited to be here. I'm happy to be here with Yaya Diamond today.
00:37Hey, you're diamonds, dream chasers, we won't wait. Subscribe today before it's too late. Inspiration flowin' just like the breeze.
00:49Chase your dreams and feel it easier.
00:55Be good. Be very good.
01:00I am trying to be very good. I think I'm succeeding. Let me know in the comments if I'm succeeding
01:07and being very good. But if I'm not being very good, then that means you know me very well. Never
01:12mind. My name is Yaya Diamond and you're watching Dream Chases Radio. I am very biased on all of my
01:18guests here. I have celebrities, but not only that, I have people like you and me, darling, people who are
01:23going after their dreams and their goals.
01:24And that's exactly what this station is all about. Inspiring you to go after your dreams and your goals. As
01:31long as it's good for you, as long as it's positive, and as long as it moves you forward, mistakes
01:36and all, you're going good. That's what Dream Chases Radio is all about. And I want to thank you guys
01:41so much for tuning in today. We have an amazing guest. We got Robert, and I'm going to help me.
01:46Okay, here we go. Woger. There you go. I said it. I did it.
01:52Okay. I get excited when I say the right name. Oh, gosh. The little things that matter in this lifetime.
01:59Thank you so much, Robert, for joining us.
02:01Well, thank you, Yaya.
02:03So, you know, I want to go back, and I always go back with my guests to the past. And,
02:08you know, for the moment that they knew, that they knew, this is what I'm going to do. Sometimes it
02:14doesn't happen like that. Sometimes it's a trial and error. What was it like for you?
02:19Well, my life has really been an example of God's tapestry. You know how he weaves your life, but you
02:29don't know wherever you're at right then when I was a child or a teen or my 20s, 30s, 40s,
02:36wherever I was in life, I couldn't see the whole hand of God and the whole tapestry and his master
02:42weaving ability.
02:43But now, as I'm a little older, I'm 61 now. So I can look back and see how God orchestrated
02:53my life, even the little things. You know, the Bible says that all things work together for good for them
02:59that love God, that are called according to his purpose in Christ Jesus.
03:02Well, that is so true. All things in our lives, not just my life, but every person is important. God
03:11loves every person. Every person has an appointed destiny. And I wasn't raised in a Christian home.
03:20I didn't know about God. I didn't know about God. And it was like I was set up by the
03:25devil from birth to fail. And I had to go through so many things.
03:30But I know God was there. He had angels around me. He had a destiny and he had a plan.
03:38And all I had to do was ask God, if you're real, show me.
03:43And when I prayed that kind of prayer, like I said, I wasn't raised in the church, wasn't raised.
03:48My parents weren't Christians. But he took me through life experiences, just like we all have life experiences. And that's
03:59what brought me to where I'm at now.
04:01Wonderful. Wow. Well, you know, I think that a lot of people can relate to that. You know, a lot
04:07of people know that their beginnings were very rocky and very challenging.
04:12But without those challenges, do you think you'd be where you're at today?
04:18Absolutely not. Absolutely not. One of the things I had to learn is, you know, I had to overcome, but
04:31not I had to get to the point where I stopped relying on myself and turned everything over to God.
04:37Because I had to get to the point where I said, I am nothing. He is everything.
04:43You know, all of us have a challenge and a journey that we have to go on. So your ministry
04:48began in 1995, right? In the 1900s.
04:53Well, actually, my ministry actually began in 1990. My digital internet ministry.
05:00The internet wasn't around publicly till around 94, 95. So I didn't start using the internet for Christian ministry till
05:10about 95.
05:11But there are some key things that I am so happy that are gone with the digital realm.
05:18I'm like, I hated that thing. Oh, my gosh. It took forever. But I mean, you know, and you've got
05:26mail. That one there was revolutionary.
05:30So when you started your digital media, you've seen a lot of digital platforms come and go, especially in Christian
05:38ministry and over the past three decades.
05:45Well, we really have to go back to 1987 because that's when I gave my life to Jesus Christ.
05:52I had gone through a traumatic life experience, sort of like a life and death experience.
05:59And I lost everything. And I reached out to God and said, that's when I prayed, God, if you're real,
06:06show me.
06:07I was on the run from the law. I was doing all kinds of things.
06:11And everything was, it looked like my life was totally over.
06:15And God took me and, you know, he will build you from faith to faith.
06:20And he will, he line upon line.
06:24And he took me from there, pulled me out of that miry clay.
06:27I almost felt like the prodigal son, you know, that had returned.
06:32And God began showing me his love.
06:34And then when I first received his love, I didn't, my father never, never showed me a bit of love.
06:41My natural father here on earth, he called me names.
06:44He mistreated me.
06:45He abused me.
06:47But, so I had to wait till 1987.
06:51I was born in 1965.
06:54And then I discovered the love of the father, of the heavenly father and of Jesus.
07:02And then I could go, then he called me into ministry.
07:05He put me on solid ground through a series of miracles.
07:10And if we have time, we can talk about those.
07:12But really, I had that road to Damascus experience like Paul did, where he was knocked off the horse and
07:19mule.
07:20And he was blinded, and Jesus got his attention.
07:24Well, God had to get my attention.
07:26But once he did, I sold out totally.
07:30And then it was a cleanup process.
07:33We all have to go through a cleanup process.
07:36I felt like I, the devil had put everything in the kitchen sink on top of me.
07:41And I felt the weight of the world on me.
07:44And then it was a cleansing.
07:46It was a deliverance process.
07:48It was getting free.
07:50Because I lived most of my life in fear and bondage and neglect and abuse and pride and all kinds
07:58of things.
07:58But back to your question, using technology for me, the internet in 95,
08:09God blessed me with a platform.
08:12I believe I was the first one, or if not the first one, the first few that ever used the
08:18internet for Christian evangelism.
08:20Wow.
08:21Go ahead.
08:22No, no.
08:23Wow.
08:24Yeah.
08:25You know, back in those times, I mean, there were really no windows.
08:28You know, you had to develop your own platform or no coding.
08:34I mean, you couldn't be like, you know, you couldn't be, you know, nonchalant.
08:39You got to be all in, you know.
08:41Even the kids had to know program to work the games that were on, like, the Commodore.
08:47Remember the Commodore?
08:48That was like, okay, that was the first desktop computer.
08:50That thing was bulky, okay?
08:52That thing was huge.
08:53Do you want to know what my first computer was as a child?
08:56What?
08:57The Radio Shack TRS-80.
08:59I don't know if you ever heard of a TRS-80.
09:00I did.
09:01I did Radio Shack.
09:03Oh, my God.
09:04And they had little cassette tapes you loved them.
09:06Yes.
09:07Yes.
09:08I remember those.
09:09I did have that when my friends had that when my mom got me the Commodore.
09:12I remember that.
09:13You had to know coding.
09:14It was just a black and white screen with letters on it.
09:17And basic.
09:17You had to know coding.
09:18Oh, yeah.
09:19Very basic.
09:19Very basic.
09:20Wow.
09:21Wow.
09:22That is.
09:22And so you had a platform, though.
09:24You had, like, a coding, kind of like a Microsoft coding?
09:27Well, I was blessed.
09:30I grew up in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
09:32Then I got an RCC Navy scholarship to Texas A&M University in College Station, Texas for computer science.
09:41And I went to Texas A&M.
09:44It's sort of like I wanted to get as far away from Philadelphia as I could.
09:48And I just picked it on a map.
09:49I didn't know Texas or what Texas A&M was.
09:52I didn't know it was a military school.
09:55Oh, no.
09:56I soon found out I signed up for the Corps of Cadets.
09:59But anyway, God took me from that.
10:03I love computers all my life.
10:05They were sort of my friend.
10:06Since my father mistreated me, I didn't have much worth.
10:10I started with that TRS-80 Radio Shack computer.
10:15Computers were my friend because they didn't talk back to you.
10:19Yeah.
10:19They did whatever you wanted.
10:21So I was sort of one of those computer geeks back in the early days, around late 70s, early 90s.
10:29In fact, I was in a mentally gifted or academically talented program at school.
10:34And in 1973, we used the old teletypes and the paper tape machine.
10:40I was blessed to be able to do computer programming.
10:44So I've been – anyway, suffice it to say, at Texas A&M, I had two semesters where I did
10:49a co-op program, you know, internship.
10:52Yeah.
10:52And I got blessed to be one of the pioneers on software development for the IBM PC when it was
11:00first.
11:01So I worked on a team that wrote code for that IBM PC that was just getting released there in
11:07the early 80s.
11:08So –
11:08Yeah, that's cool.
11:09And we went from there.
11:10I was a Christian – not a Christian.
11:12I was a software developer, shareware developer.
11:14I wrote something called Hotter, H-O-T-D-I-R.
11:17It was a color-sorted directory utility.
11:20And I just found out today I was featured on a TV show in 1988 I didn't even know about.
11:26Wow.
11:27I was researching my past.
11:29But then I worked for an internet company in the mid-90s, and I ran an internet service provider.
11:36That's what you were talking about with the dial-up.
11:39So I was there with the machines that people would call into, and we would route that out to the
11:44internet.
11:45So God gave me the technical internet backbone skills.
11:49I had several of the early domain names.
11:52I had salvation.com.
11:54I had bible.net.
11:56And I started putting up Christian content, and I had a love for sharing Christian content on the internet.
12:02Wow.
12:02That's how it started.
12:04Then, if you don't mind me sharing –
12:06No, go ahead.
12:08Because I had salvation.com, I felt God wanted me to share the salvation message on the internet.
12:15And since people were searching for salvation, I would come up number one because it was salvation.com.
12:22And I had a dream or vision where an angel took me and gave me a revelation of hell.
12:29I was taken – not physically, but I believe my spirit was taken into hell.
12:34And I was shown what it's like in hell because I needed, as an internet minister and an evangelist, I
12:43needed to have a love and a compassion for souls.
12:46When I saw the – I didn't see the fire and the pitchfork and those demons down there.
12:52The revelation I saw was the – and I wrote a book about it.
12:56It's on Amazon about that revelation of hell.
12:58But what I saw is the eternal separation and loneliness being eternally separated from God.
13:06So I wouldn't want my worst enemy to be separated from the love of God for eternity.
13:11So that sort of began my ministry, took me – and then God supernaturally opened doors with a company called
13:20Walnut Creek CD-ROM, and then Bridgestone Multimedia Group.
13:24And I made CD-ROMs of Christian shareware for both.
13:28And then I was also – there was a search engine back in the early days called Goshen.net, G
13:34-O-S-H-E-N.net.
13:36And it was like the Christian Google.
13:39So if you wanted to find Christian material in the early – mid-90s, you went to Goshen.net.
13:46And I was there – I maintained their Christian library and distributed tens of thousands of Christian files a day
13:53through that.
13:54Wow.
13:55Wow.
13:56I mean, like, wow.
13:58That – I mean, to see everything get to today, like from then till now, that's a big difference.
14:07I mean, look at what we're doing today.
14:08You couldn't have done this back in that day.
14:10No, there was no online video, and the streaming audio was so bad.
14:15It was low, low.
14:17Reuterized.
14:20It was bad.
14:22It was bad.
14:23Wow.
14:24Well, so going into today, your teachings emphasize agreement with God's word as a foundation for faith, right?
14:30Can you explain what it means to walk in agreement with Scripture and why it is essential for believers today?
14:36Sure.
14:36Sure.
14:37It really ties into a foundational Scripture in Amos 3.3.
14:41It says, how can two walk together except they be agreed or in agreement?
14:47And really, Yahya, you know what I discovered that faith really is?
14:51By the way, I've been blessed to have some wonderful mentors along the way, one of which, his name was
14:58Don Gossett, G-O-S-S-E-T-T.
15:00He's passed away in 2014, but he wrote some of the classic books about the power of your words and
15:10speaking in agreement.
15:11So I'm not claiming I have any new revelation, but God is using me in this modern day.
15:17I was blessed to be Catherine Coleman's archivist.
15:21I did her digital archives first in around 2000, and I turned all that material over to her foundation.
15:27She died in 1976.
15:30So I've worked with a lot of different ministries preserving their archives.
15:34I did A.A. Allen.
15:35I don't know if you know he was a healing evangelist.
15:38And I did a lot of Andrew Murray's books.
15:42So I took a lot of the old books, was an archivist, and put them in the public domain so
15:48that they could carry on in the future generations.
15:53Wow, wow.
15:54So you yourself have authored over 40 Christian books covering topics like prayer, healing, and spiritual growth.
16:01Which book do you consider the most impactful for your readers and why?
16:06Well, I would have to say it's my two books on speaking.
16:12You know, your words matter.
16:15And you can put them up.
16:17I think they're on your – I don't have the titles in front of me.
16:21Here they are.
16:22Hold on a second.
16:22Let me put them up.
16:23There's some of them.
16:24Just a few.
16:26Yeah.
16:28Just a few, but my gosh.
16:30Okay.
16:30The two words, your words shape eternity.
16:35You know.
16:36I'm looking for them.
16:38Let me know when I get there.
16:39There it is.
16:41Right there.
16:43Okay.
16:44And then – you got it?
16:50Yeah, I got it right here.
16:51Your words shape eternity right here.
16:53And then there's another one about speaking on earth as it is in heaven.
16:59Okay.
17:00Give me one second.
17:00There it is.
17:01No, it isn't.
17:03And then I have a whole – there it is.
17:06Words – go up there on the right.
17:08This one.
17:09Yeah.
17:10Words that bring heaven's power on earth as it is in heaven.
17:15Those – what we should know is our words matter.
17:21You know, just like I told you, my father's words hurt me growing up when I never received any love.
17:27And all I got was rejection and abandonment of verbal abuse.
17:34And a lot of Christians don't know that our life and death are in the power of our tongue.
17:40And so do you know what faith is?
17:42Yeah, yeah.
17:43I've been through this so many years and I've heard people say, well, you didn't get your healing because you
17:47didn't have enough faith or this, that.
17:49I don't agree with that.
17:50What I believe is faith, you know, we know the definition.
17:54It's the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
17:58But you know what really I've discovered faith is?
18:01What?
18:02Faith is your response to God.
18:05So God is just looking for us.
18:07He wants a relationship with us through Jesus Christ.
18:10And he wants us to respond back to him according to his word.
18:14He gave us his word as an outline of how we should conduct our life.
18:19And as we agree with God's word and we speak, you're either in one of two places.
18:25You're either in agreement with your words, either agree with God's word or they rebel against God's word.
18:33And, you know, rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.
18:35So I don't want to be out of God's will.
18:40So I've written a lot of books, these ultimate prayers books for spiritual warfare and to resist the enemy.
18:48You'll see all kinds of I even have ultimate prayers books for toddlers and two books for children.
18:57And it's all about prayer is about communication with God.
19:01But it's about speaking back to God, affirming that you believe his word, that you're living in agreement.
19:07Then, of course, faith without works is dead.
19:11So we need to make sure our actions line up with our words.
19:15Yeah.
19:16Go ahead.
19:17No, definitely.
19:18I agree with you.
19:19I definitely agree with you.
19:20So prayer resources are a big part of your ministry, right?
19:24What advice do you give to Christians who struggle to maintain a consistent and powerful prayer life?
19:29Because life happens, you know what I mean?
19:32And things happen and you forget.
19:33So how can you, you know, keep that on track?
19:37Right.
19:38Well, I found that, you know, we have we know we have an enemy that tries to fight our spiritual
19:44life.
19:46And it's all about we're in this world and we have to overcome.
19:50The enemy sends us distractions and deceptions to try to block our faith with faith in God.
19:59So you asked how you can overcome.
20:02We have to resist the devil and he'll flee.
20:04But first, we have to be in agreement with God.
20:07So when we stay in that place, you know, Psalms 91 talks about the dwelling in the secret place of
20:14the Most High, abiding under the shadow of the Almighty.
20:17That's really staying in agreement with God.
20:20That's having a daily time of prayer, Bible study, devotions.
20:26Sometimes get because we get washed continually by the renewing of the word of God and we need to because
20:33we pick up junk every day.
20:35As you know, there's so much distractions, deceptions, clutter, things going on in the world to pull us away from
20:43God.
20:44So every day we have to just get to the place where we say, God, here I am again.
20:49I love you.
20:51I put on the full armor, God.
20:52I thank you for forgiving me of all my sins and also releasing any judgments you have against anyone else.
20:59Because if you don't forgive others, God can't forgive you.
21:02That's what the word says.
21:03So we start each day fresh and it's not about what we're doing.
21:09We just have to be an open vessel that he can use.
21:13We're nothing special.
21:14We can't get prideful.
21:16But as long as we say, use me, here I am, use me, he will.
21:21And that's really what my life is all about.
21:23And as an example of, I thought my life was over.
21:27I tried to commit suicide when I was 13.
21:29I drank Crystal Drano because my parents were getting a divorce.
21:33And kids always blame themselves for their parents' divorce.
21:36I don't know why that is.
21:38But I wanted to end it.
21:39But thank God he supernaturally intervened.
21:43They pumped me out, my stomach out.
21:46They said I should have been on a colostomy bag for the rest of my life if I survived.
21:50Never needed that.
21:52God supernaturally preserved my life.
21:55But that's just one of the many times that the devil, the enemy, tried to take me out.
21:59Because I had a high call.
22:01We all have high calls.
22:03And I want to encourage everyone.
22:05You might not be an internet evangelist like I was or a Christian author.
22:09But discover your giftings and your talents.
22:12You know, Yahya, you come from a musical family, musical heritage.
22:16And that's in your DNA.
22:18And you use it for, you know, just to encourage people and bless people.
22:22You've got to discover what your gifts are and use them.
22:26Mm-hmm.
22:27I agree.
22:28That's why we have the station.
22:29And that's why we have you on this show.
22:33Because you are one of those people that encourage people to go after their dreams, their goals, their visions.
22:38You set not only that speaking movement, but you also do what you do.
22:43So you're not like, hey, you know, do what I say, but not as I do.
22:47You're saying, look, I'm not only saying it, but I'm doing it.
22:52And that's why you're here.
22:53I thank you so much.
22:54So you have a teaching.
22:55And it's called Wish, Witch, or Pray.
23:01Addresses the dangers of witchcraft and divination.
23:03It's free.
23:04It's on my website, robertwolver.com, W-O-E-G-E-R.com.
23:10Yeah.
23:10Tell me about that.
23:11I just wrote that probably a week or two ago.
23:16And every day, I don't hear the audible voice of God, but I hear that still small voice of God.
23:23I get impressions.
23:25Usually early in the morning.
23:27He gets me up around three in the morning.
23:29And he'll put an idea to write a new book or to write an article like that.
23:35And so everything I believe that I write is birthed by the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit.
23:40And I just am a vessel that he uses to write.
23:44But that particular one, you know, we're so accustomed in our lives to wish upon a star.
23:52They indoctrinate children to make a birthday wish, wish upon a star.
23:59You know, it's really a warning not to dabble into the occult.
24:04Be careful.
24:06Who are you making a wish to?
24:09Because in that writing, God showed me that there is no neutral ground in the spiritual realm.
24:16When you make a wish, if you don't attach who you're wishing to, like when you pray, you're making your
24:23request known to God and you're asking him to respond.
24:27Well, when you make a wish, you didn't give it any destination.
24:31So any spiritual entity can pick it up and answer your wish.
24:36You might get a demon or, you know, bad spiritual force might answer your wish.
24:44And so that's why we have to be careful.
24:46Again, agreement with our words, being careful with our words.
24:50But that one is all about making sure you pray to God, that you don't just make wishes and ask
24:58the universe to fulfill them because someone or something will fulfill them and it may not be God.
25:03And you probably I know we're running low on time, but I have been waylaid by the enemy.
25:11He loves to attack people's relationships and he loves to deceive people.
25:16And I've been set up by the enemy more than once with false women coming in my life, trying to
25:23marriage, marry me and get me off course.
25:26But God supernaturally has protected me.
25:30And, you know, but I know we make decisions every day, you know, our job, our life, our family, who
25:37we're going to marry.
25:38And if we don't make our request to God and hear his voice, then maybe some other voice might answer.
25:45And we need to always get the peace of God that passes all understanding and all our decisions.
25:50Yeah.
25:51Yeah.
25:52Wow.
25:52Well, wow.
25:54What?
25:55What?
25:56What?
25:59You can't be careful of those women, boy, I tell you.
26:02Oh, you know, even women have to be careful of other women.
26:06I mean, you know, because they can, they can throw you off track.
26:09I mean, you can be, you can, because women are always trying to find that one person that they, that's
26:13got their back.
26:14Their, their girl, you know what I mean?
26:16Their hangout girl, the girl that, you know, that's always got their back.
26:20It's hard.
26:22It's not easy.
26:23It's just like your best friend and people who have best friends.
26:25I get jealous because it's hard to find your, your other person, your person.
26:31Like I know that if I call her or, or like a guy, if I, if I call him my,
26:36my person, you know, that's my, that's like my brother from another mother.
26:40It's hard to find that.
26:42And you have to find that person in a wife or a husband as well.
26:46And it's difficult when you are in the public eye and you, people come out of the woodwork.
26:53It's like, who are you?
26:55Why are you even like here?
26:58Because it's difficult.
27:01Can I have, can I have, give you a brief testimony?
27:03Yeah, please do.
27:04Yes.
27:05This was in the nineties, mid nineties or so.
27:09Uh, and I had a witch tried to seduce me and tell me she was supposed to, God sent her
27:18to be my wife, you know, type thing.
27:20And you know what, what, what keyed me off because she was casting all kinds of love spells and doing
27:27all kinds of stuff behind the back.
27:28I didn't know, but God warned me.
27:30Uh, but she knew too much about me and that's a key.
27:35Uh, and you know what she admitted?
27:37And she, by the way, she owned a black cat, you know, that's right there.
27:42Nothing against black cats, but, but I actually, uh, confronted her and believe it or not, this black cat vanished,
27:51just dissolved and then appeared later on outside.
27:55I saw it with my own eyes, it's testimony.
27:58And she had later admitted she was a witch and she admitted, listen to this.
28:04Yeah.
28:04Yeah.
28:05She admitted that demons have been teaching her about my life and my background for several years before.
28:12I came across her past.
28:13So they were prepping her to try to derail me and derail my life, uh, for God.
28:19No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I believe it.
28:25I'm not saying I don't believe it.
28:27What I'm saying is no, careful who you marry.
28:36Be careful who tries to hook up with you.
28:39You just never know.
28:40You know, it's so, it's so people.
28:43Okay.
28:43How would you say this?
28:45People believe that they're in their right spot at the moment.
28:49Right.
28:50But then when they look back on their past, they see that they weren't, when they go into their future,
28:54then they're, you know, their destiny.
28:57Um, a lot of times the enemy will try to grab you before you can figure out how important you
29:04are.
29:04That's right.
29:05And they will grab you with someone to distract you, to hurt you, to try and maim you.
29:10You know, women go through the domestic violence because they're with someone that's trying to keep them from their purpose
29:16and their plan.
29:17So the enemy comes in before you become aware of how important you are in the, in the scope of
29:24the puzzle of life.
29:25Right.
29:25Right.
29:26Um, and so you have to be careful.
29:28I always say women, men be careful because if you see a lot of red flags and you ignore those
29:35red flags, that's on you.
29:37That's right.
29:38Because the red flags will come up.
29:39You have to kind of, I always tell people, step out of your situation and look to the inside.
29:45Like as if you are a spectator and then judge your situation.
29:49Don't judge from the inside, always judge from the outside.
29:52And that's, that's like my motto.
29:55That's my motto.
29:56I never, ever judge from the inside.
29:57I always step out.
29:58I'm very critical of it.
30:00I look at it.
30:01Are there any red flags or anything I have to be careful of?
30:04Is she really a person that's after me or after the popularity that I have?
30:10Sure.
30:10Um, so yeah.
30:11Yeah.
30:12You know, one thing I found that God showed me that's worked for years that eliminates all that stuff, eliminates
30:18wrong.
30:19Tell me, just tell me.
30:20Don't even.
30:21Pray, pray for truth.
30:24If you will pray for truth and that's God's truth, not some made up.
30:29I'm not talking about some worldly truth.
30:31I'm talking about God's.
30:33And that's why agreement with God's word.
30:35If you're aligned with God, because his word is truth.
30:38So if you, if you will believe what his word says, and then if you pray for truth, then when
30:45something's off or someone's off, you'll feel it right away.
30:49You won't have peace because peace is the evidence that you're walking in God's truth.
30:54So if someone comes around you, if you have time, I can tell you another story, but you know, stuff
31:01goes on in churches.
31:02Oh, I know.
31:03I have been under some abusive pastors, ministries, so forth.
31:08I've been under false apostles, different things.
31:11And you got to be very careful.
31:14And a lot of people, since I'm in the confession thing, confessing God's word, they think I'm a name it,
31:21claim it, or they think I'm a prosperity preacher, which I'm not.
31:24I never ask for money.
31:26I don't, you know, tell people so, so much, and then you'll get a car, you know, like there's preachers
31:31of LA or any of those type things, you know, familiar with some of the things that go on in
31:37the church.
31:38And I wish more people would just get back to the word and just have a love for God and
31:44walk their lives in humility and peace.
31:47And we're supposed to, the evidence that we are of the faith is that we love one another, you know,
31:55yeah, yeah.
31:56And that's how the Bible says that we know that we're believers, that we love one another.
32:02So how can we walk in love if we're trying to get someone else's man or if we're trying to
32:08tell on this one or scheme on this or manipulate people out of money or, you know, fame or whatever.
32:18And really, God is love.
32:21We were created in God's image.
32:23So we're, I talked a lot about the glory.
32:26I haven't touched on that here, but the glory is the manifest presence of God.
32:30You can get to a place with God.
32:32He had to take me through many years of deliverance, but you can get to a place of God where
32:37you actually walk in the glory realm.
32:39And I have a book called The Glory Realm and Glory Life.
32:43And you can walk in the place where you're so filled with the peace and presence of God that nothing
32:49else matters.
32:50The people don't matter.
32:52The distractions, the cares of the world don't matter.
32:55Lay up your treasure in heaven where moth and rust, you know, don't destroy.
33:00And really, this life is all about glorifying God and laying up your treasure in heaven.
33:06So when we get to heaven, we hear, well done, thou good and faithful servant.
33:10Enter into the joy of the Lord.
33:12There you go.
33:12That's it.
33:13That's it.
33:14You know, I appreciate this talk because you do have a book called Awake, Aligned, and Sent.
33:19And this addresses that distraction and that weariness that people face.
33:24That's a free article on my website.
33:26Oh, yeah.
33:26What are some key biblical principles from this teaching that can help believers regain spiritual focus?
33:32Sure.
33:32Well, a lot of people have been lulled to sleep spiritually.
33:38You asked what you can do every day.
33:41Get those devotions going every day.
33:43Do a prayer life every day.
33:45Because you don't realize when the enemy sneaks into your camp, it's sort of like the frog in the kettle.
33:52You know, if they turn up the heat, if it's done little by little, you don't realize it.
33:56Yeah.
33:57But if you're sensitive in the spirit, you'll recognize it right away.
34:02So you need to be awake and aware, and you need to be so aligned with God that when someone
34:08says something, you'll know it's off.
34:10Yeah.
34:11So when they try to manipulate you, say, that's witchcraft.
34:15I'm not going to – what do you mean?
34:16You're not going to be my friend if I don't do what you want?
34:19No, you're trying to manipulate me.
34:21That's witchcraft.
34:22Yeah.
34:23Witchcraft is just tapping into a power source other than God.
34:28So you're trying to do something on your own strength.
34:30You're trying to manipulate the situation.
34:33And that's rebellion, it says, the sin of witchcraft.
34:37Yes, I am.
34:38So I appreciate you, first of all, for coming on and sharing.
34:44I mean, you have so many – I mean, so many books.
34:46Look at this.
34:47Look at this.
34:48And the list goes on, and you have not stopped creating, which is amazing because to me, you know, when
34:54people say, oh, you know, you should really, like, stop and focus and whatever.
34:58And I don't think that.
35:00I think that the universe is continually being created.
35:03There are new planets developing every day.
35:05And just like new planets develop, new ideas develop every day.
35:09So you don't stop until you're gone, until you're with the most high creator up in heaven.
35:13And, you know, but I want to know what lesson on earth, now that you're living, now that you're here
35:18with us, the insights that you would like to share with young and old ministers and older ministers to use
35:24the technology today to spread the gospel effectively.
35:27What kind of advice?
35:30Well, we – especially concerning AI, artificial intelligence.
35:36We are on a whole new platform, a new paradigm shift.
35:43Before, it was text.
35:45It was video.
35:46It was video clips.
35:47And now we don't know what's true and what's not true.
35:52When you see a video clip or hear an audio, it can be synthetic.
35:57It can be AI.
35:59So we need – I believe this is the plan of the enemy.
36:03Do you – I believe AI is the enemy's way of trying to be omnipotent like God is, knowing everything,
36:11knowing what's – why are they building all these data centers everywhere?
36:13Or they're trying to – they're trying to track us, surveil us, control us, and God doesn't do that because
36:24he knows everything about us, but the devil doesn't.
36:29And so what we can do in this technology is be honest, be real, and share your testimonies because we
36:38overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony.
36:40So if you have an overcomer story, if God's brought you out of something, or if he hasn't yet, then
36:47trust him in faith that he will because God – nothing's impossible with God, yeah, yeah.
36:53You know this from your life.
36:55Each of us that have gone through things know that God's bigger.
36:59I'm sure your mom would say, God is bigger than anything you're facing, you know, and God loves you, and
37:08all he wants is a relationship with you.
37:10And the devil just wants to block that relationship, and he wants to take you where his destiny is, which
37:16is hell, which we – God never designed hell for people.
37:20It's just because of the sin and the rebellion.
37:23So we have a wonderful gift.
37:25Jesus Christ paid the penalty.
37:27He redeemed us.
37:29Have faith in him.
37:30Embrace him.
37:31And live your life to glorify God and enjoy him forever.
37:36Definitely, definitely.
37:38And use the internet to your advantage.
37:40I always say, you know what?
37:42We have such a reach now, you know, such a reach.
37:45You can go on for 30 seconds.
37:48Just go on and just give your idea.
37:51Spread the word.
37:52Spread the good news.
37:53Spread positivity, you know.
37:55It doesn't take much to impact the world nowadays.
37:58It just takes 30 seconds, probably 10.
38:00You know, 10 seconds of your life every day is nothing, but it might be something for someone else.
38:06An image, an encouraging image, or a short video clip.
38:11A lot of people are doing video clips.
38:13Just love on people and share the goodness that you have.
38:19Share the hope.
38:20That's my mandate.
38:21God actually spoke to me.
38:22I had a cruise ship ministry for several years where I traveled all over the world primarily.
38:28And I ministered on cruise ships.
38:31I've never heard of anyone else that had a cruise ship ministry.
38:35But anyway, God is great about that.
38:39He's creative.
38:41And God spoke to me and he said, your mandate is deliver hope to a lost and dying world.
38:47So ever since he spoke that, and this was about 2007 or so, I've been focusing on delivering hope to
38:55a lost, dying world.
38:57And then he blessed me in 2018 with a wife.
39:02And I got an instant family wife.
39:04I never had kids.
39:05And it was a supernatural thing from God.
39:08God spoke to her.
39:09God spoke to me.
39:11And God even asked me, are you willing to marry her?
39:15And God spoke to her about me.
39:18And, of course, first she said, who?
39:20Him?
39:20I don't want anything to do with him.
39:21But after a while, God got the message through.
39:25But we have a testimony about how God brought us together in our later years.
39:30And so no matter where you are in life, don't be like me when I was 13.
39:36Don't even think about suicide.
39:38Don't think about drugs or depression or anything.
39:41But think about, just ask this question I did.
39:45God, if you're real, show me.
39:47And he loves to answer that question.
39:49And he'll reveal himself to you faithfully.
39:52Awesome.
39:52Awesome.
39:53Well, thank you, Robert, for being on the show.
39:54I appreciate it.
39:56Again, I mean, I'm just, I'm over the hills.
40:00I mean, look at this.
40:02This is enough to keep you busy for the next year.
40:05And then you'd have to reread it just to make sure you got everything.
40:09Well, I'm not trying to overwhelm people.
40:12What I'm trying to do is share the blessings, the things God has taught me.
40:17I want to pass them on to future generations.
40:20You know, I have a book about that, about your destiny.
40:24You want to pass on a destiny for, think about it generationally.
40:29We don't know how much longer we have.
40:31Everybody thinks in their generation that the Lord will return.
40:34But what if he doesn't?
40:35What if he tarries?
40:36You know, our grandparents thought he was coming.
40:40You know, our parents thought he was coming.
40:42So we just need to be faithful, sow seeds, love on people.
40:47And you don't know how many souls are going to be in heaven because you gave an encouraging
40:51word or because you made yourself available.
40:55You just delivered some hope to someone.
40:57Amen.
40:57That's it.
40:58That's it.
40:59Thank you so much, Robert, for being on the show today.
41:02It's Robert Woger.
41:03That's W-O-E.
41:05Huh?
41:06Woger.
41:06Woger.
41:07I said it wrong.
41:08You said it with a V, but it's okay.
41:11Woger.
41:11Robert Woger.
41:14Sorry.
41:15It's robertwoger.com.
41:17That's W-O-E-G-E-R.com.
41:21And please visit.
41:22We are going to also put the Amazon link, which you've been watching, if you can see it there.
41:28We're going to put that link to his author's page there because he has so many books that
41:33it doesn't make sense to put just one book because you can be blessed with so many other
41:38things and so many other books.
41:40And you, you may be going through something and you need something specific.
41:43I'm sure.
41:45I'm sure he's got it.
41:47I'm sure.
41:48I got, so you want to date my daughter for people, for people that have a woman, a young
41:55girl, a young father.
41:56Yeah.
41:59Wow.
42:00Wow.
42:00That is amazing.
42:01I absolutely love it.
42:02Robert, thank you so much for being on the show.
42:04Well, thank you for having me, Yaya.
42:06You've been great.
42:07Oh, thank you.
42:08And thank you guys so much for tuning in.
42:11Don't forget to dare to be different and don't forget to go to that website.
42:14It's in the description wherever you may be watching.
42:17And hey, just like, like Robert said, you know, positivity.
42:20If you need help, he's got the books and if you do need any kind of other helps, just
42:26go to his website.
42:27I'm sure that you can reach out to him.
42:29People like Robert are special and they're always there to help.
42:34So I'm just going to put it out there.
42:36I'm not even going to ask him.
42:37I'm just going to say, yeah.
42:40Thank you guys so much again.
42:42And until next time, bye.
42:45Bye.
42:46Bye.
42:47Bye.
42:47Bye.
42:47Bye.
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