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00:00Then you might have saw it, because I saw Dane Brugler getting a little spicy.
00:06It was awesome.
00:07I loved it.
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00:13Dane Brugler joining us here in just a moment.
00:16However, I do got to read this here.
00:18Chase Daniel was talking about Brendan Soresby,
00:22and then I think talking about being a first-round talent.
00:26Dane had said, well, if you were a slam-dunk first-round talent,
00:28he would have declared for the 2026 NFL Draft.
00:30It said, whoo, let's bring in Dane.
00:34Dane's on the Wise Heart Right We Make It Right call, Kyle Wright Hotline.
00:38Dane, how the hell are you?
00:40I love your ability to act like I just jumped off the top rope
00:44and tried to go for the jugular.
00:47I love that.
00:48It's great.
00:49It was Macho Man WrestleMania III on Ricky the Dragon's steamboat.
00:54It was amazing.
00:55Actually, I got nothing against Chase Daniel.
00:57Well, no, I used to get mad because people would talk about us bringing him in
01:00when he played to be the quarterback for the Browns.
01:03But I got nothing against Chase Daniel and what he does,
01:05and I certainly don't have anything against you and what you do, Dane.
01:09So do I take that as maybe you're a little bit –
01:14you question Brendan Soresby a little bit more than some of the other ones?
01:19Well, no, I mean, I think that we just need proper context here in terms of –
01:26obviously nothing has happened on the field between December and now.
01:30Plenty has happened off the field in terms of Soresby and his projection to the NFL.
01:35But in terms of the on-field evaluation, because we kind of have to separate the two,
01:40everything off the field, the betting, that's something that we're still trying to figure out.
01:46How are teams going to digest that?
01:49Teams don't even know.
01:50Like anybody can talk to their sources with the team, GM, whoever.
01:55I don't think they have a proper grasp of just the extent.
02:01Is there remorse?
02:02Where is he, Brendan, in his recovery?
02:06What's the long-term ramifications?
02:08And where do you feel comfortable rolling the dice on a player like that?
02:13But on the field, it's a really talented quarterback.
02:16There's no doubt about it.
02:17But he's still very raw in a lot of areas.
02:21And so I think if he were – if he did declare for the 2026 NFL draft,
02:26he would have been in that quarterback three discussion.
02:30Yeah, I think there's a good chance.
02:31You know, the quarterback three was – or ended up being Carson Beck.
02:36The Cardinals drafted him.
02:37The first pick in the third round, 65 overall.
02:41There's a good chance that could have been Sorsby if he would have came out.
02:44He could have been the 65th pick right there smack dab in the middle of day two.
02:49Because, again, he's really talented.
02:51He is a hair under 6'3".
02:53He's 238 pounds.
02:55Probably runs a 4'6", 2 in the 40-yard dash.
02:58He's a really good athlete.
03:00But in terms of his development as a quarterback, he's still pretty raw.
03:06And a lot of that comes from what he was asked to do at Cincinnati.
03:09I mean, it was a really basic offense.
03:12Like, he's not setting protections.
03:14He's not doing checks.
03:16You know, he's playing based off of feel and, you know,
03:19just kind of how he's always played quarterback.
03:21It's basic high-low reads.
03:23You know, one progression, two progression.
03:26He's not consistently getting to the backside.
03:28So, there's a lot of things that he just has to learn and develop playing quarterback.
03:33And that's why I think going to Texas Tech and getting another full year of development,
03:38he could have absolutely gotten into the first round in a 2027 NFL draft based off his development this upcoming
03:46season.
03:47But, again, nothing has happened on the field since December.
03:50And so, I still think, you know, just based on the field, he's a day-two projection.
03:56But now you factor in the off-field, and that's where things get a little murky.
03:59Well, Dane, I love what you just said.
04:01Dane Brugler joining us on the show.
04:02Because that's kind of the fight I've been having.
04:04Is, you know, Albert Breer comes on.
04:07Tom Pelissero comes on.
04:09And they're not football guys like you.
04:11Like, they're not breaking down film and things like that.
04:13They're watching a lot of football, obviously.
04:15But they're talking to scouts and all the other football guys.
04:18And these guys are saying, well, he could be a top-five pick.
04:21And I think a lot of us have taken it and bastardized it as he will be a top-five
04:24pick.
04:25And it's like, well, he could have been.
04:27You know, Garrett Nussmeyer at one point, a lot of people thought, including myself,
04:30he could have been a first-round talent.
04:32Drew Aller.
04:32Drew Aller would have been taken by the Browns a couple years ago.
04:35And I think that was you we were talking to.
04:37Had he had a good game against Notre Dame and would have came out, like, yeah,
04:41the Browns probably would have taken him top five.
04:42So a lot of things can change.
04:44I don't think it's just this slam dunk about the type of quarterback
04:48and the type of talent he is.
04:50And I just think that some of us are getting caught.
04:52Yeah, we are desperate.
04:53But we're acting a little bit too desperate here.
04:56We know what this season may very well be about.
04:59Well, and it's also a tough ask for him.
05:02You know, he's going to miss OTAs.
05:04He's going to miss minicamp.
05:06And where he's at in his development, you have to almost look at the 2026 season
05:11as a redshirt year for him.
05:13This isn't someone that's going to come in and compete for the starting job right away.
05:17He's just not there in his development.
05:19So, yeah, I think when you look at the talent, I think it's easy to get excited about Brennan Sorsby.
05:26And, you know, when I was doing my way too early 2027 mock draft right after the 2026 draft ended,
05:35if not for the gambling stuff, I would have had Sorsby in there somewhere, you know,
05:38maybe at 20th overall or something like that.
05:41Because, again, based off of the proper development this upcoming year as a senior at Texas Tech,
05:48I think he absolutely could have gotten into that first round.
05:50Because the talent is there.
05:52The size, the physical traits.
05:53He's a smart kid.
05:54I don't think he's, you know, where he needs to be mentally for, you know,
05:59to play quarterback at a high level.
06:00But, again, I think that's more based off of what he was asked to be at Cincinnati
06:03and not any lack of, you know, anything between the ears that's going to keep him from reaching that.
06:10But it's still a projection at this point.
06:12And so not having that senior year, there's still a lot of projection involved.
06:17And so you factor in the gambling stuff.
06:20And some teams, I think, will be maybe a little more forgiving.
06:25You know, I think when you look at it, the real Cardinal sin where, you know,
06:29betting on your own games, that happened when he was 18 years old.
06:33Like, to the best of our knowledge, where, you know, he was at Indiana.
06:36And, again, to the best of our knowledge, he hasn't done that since his first year.
06:41And so everything else, pretty much legal in terms of betting on other things.
06:47And now he has admitted he's a compulsive gambler.
06:50And you look at the money that he's put up, and that's absolutely a red flag.
06:55But it's something that he's obviously seeking help for.
06:59And some teams will be a little more forgiving about that.
07:01But it's really unprecedented.
07:03We haven't seen a prospect at this level of talent have this level of an issue
07:10that's not necessarily something that you can quantify in terms of an injury
07:15or, you know, you can't get medical advice or anything like that.
07:19So there's a pattern there.
07:21Some teams will look at that and say it's this young kid who, you know, is growing up.
07:26Other teams will look at it and say, you know, we think he has a problem.
07:29And is there enough time between now and the supplemental draft for teams to get the answers that they need?
07:35You know, there's a time crunch here.
07:36It's not like we have all of the fall for scouts to go into the – on the campus and
07:42get all the details.
07:42And then you have the draft process.
07:44And you're able to really get to know him.
07:46And so I think that's working against Brendan a little bit too is just the time crunch that teams have.
07:52But then also a lot of teams are kind of set one, two, three on their quarterback depth chart.
07:57I mean, I think you look at a team like the Steelers.
08:00I think they're – they would be a – I think a prime candidate to draft a player like Brendan
08:05Soresby.
08:05But they're kind of set one, two, three on their quarterback depth chart right now.
08:10Now I think you could look at the Jets, the Cardinals, even the Browns as teams that, you know,
08:17you could make a case, hey, if he's there at a certain point in the supplemental draft,
08:22he – you know, the juice might be worth a squeeze at that point.
08:25Dane, the fascinating part of this is how 2027 factors into this.
08:30Every conversation I have with anybody about Soresby is, well, wait a second.
08:33If you're – if he's going to get suspended by the NFL and you're expecting to probably not have a
08:38ton of wins anyway next year,
08:40do you want Brendan Soresby to be the reason you don't get a guy at the top of 2027?
08:46Does that factor in at all, or is it ridiculous to look a year in advance
08:50knowing how these quarterbacks tend to fluctuate from where we think they will be
08:54to where they actually will be a year from now?
08:57No, it's not ridiculous.
08:58I mean, you have to – you have to forward scout.
09:00You have to advance scout quarterbacks.
09:03And, you know, you know Andrew Barry has a – somewhere in his office has that 2027 depth chart
09:11on the whiteboard or on his computer somewhere where, you know,
09:14he's kind of playing with different scenarios and what it could look like.
09:17And I think you have to look at Brendan Soresby as a lottery ticket.
09:20And, you know, what is – who knows where you'll be picking next year?
09:26Who knows if Arch Manning and Dante Moore and Lenora Sellers and all these guys
09:32that we're projecting to potentially be top 10, top 15 picks in next year's drafts,
09:37who knows if they live up to that this upcoming season?
09:40And so, you know, I think you have to – but, again, this is like a redshirt year
09:45for Soresby.
09:47But I also don't think he's maybe the type of guy that's going to stop you
09:50from drafting a quarterback in 2027 as well.
09:54But what's the asking price going to be?
09:56I mean, that's the big question for Soresby.
09:59Do you have to use a third-round pick on Soresby?
10:02Or can you get him in the fourth round?
10:05If you can get him with a day three pick, then all of a sudden it's like,
10:08you know what, why not?
10:09Let's just throw as many resources we have within reason at this quarterback problem.
10:15And, you know, if you're the Jets, you draft Brendan Soresby with a fourth-round pick,
10:21he's not necessarily – and then you end up with a number one overall pick.
10:25I don't think that's going to stop you.
10:27Soresby's not going to stop you from drafting Arch Manning at number one overall.
10:30So I think that it's – the big question is what's the asking price going to be this year?
10:37Is it going to be a day two pick or is it going to be one of those early day
10:40three picks?
10:41Dane Brugler with us right now on the hotline.
10:44So you've talked about comps for somebody like Brendan Soresby.
10:48But what are the comps, not necessarily physical-wise,
10:52what are the comps for a player who is wildly as up and down as somebody that is this talented?
10:59Meaning the last two Novembers, I mean, things have gone off the rails.
11:02I mean, he's lost a ton of games.
11:04Can you pin that on him and his lack of development?
11:07Or is it guys around him?
11:09Is it something that is going to curse him?
11:14It's a valid point to bring up.
11:16Well, I think because there was – last year, the way his season was going,
11:21I thought Soresby was going to be in the 2026 draft because he was –
11:26you know, it was kind of like a stock on the rise.
11:29You know, the way he played September, October,
11:30it looked like things were headed to him being a top 50 pick.
11:35And then I think it was the Utah game where it just kind of brought things back down to,
11:41okay, he's not ready, you know.
11:42And part of that was the offense.
11:44There's no question about it.
11:45He was kind of restricted and limited in what he could do in that offense.
11:49But part of it is just he's not mentally there in terms of reading out the progressions
11:56and understanding where he needs to be.
11:58He's very loose with his mechanics, and that really affects his accuracy.
12:02He really prefers to play off-platform, and he's good at it because, again, he can move.
12:07He's a good athlete for a guy that size.
12:09And he's also got a big-time arm where he can make every throw at all three levels
12:14and do it with ease.
12:16But you watch him, and there's a lot of fadeaways where it's like, okay,
12:20why are you going away from your target when you don't need to be?
12:24Why are your feet all over the place?
12:26And that's affecting your ball placement.
12:28If your ball placement was on the upfield shoulder, that slant, he's still running.
12:33But it was on his back shoulder, and it's a five-yard gain.
12:36So there's a lot of things on tape where he just needs to take that next step.
12:41And I think we were hoping to see that this year as a senior at Texas Tech.
12:46Just unfortunate we won't have that.
12:48He won't have that opportunity to show teams that, hey, he's taking that next step.
12:54He's ready to – he hasn't hit his ceiling as a quarterback.
12:59So, yeah, there's still a lot of unanswered questions with Sorsby.
13:02And, I mean, some teams are going to be comfortable with that.
13:04Other teams, most teams probably won't be.
13:07But, you know, all it takes is one team to look at it and think about what he could be.
13:12And I keep coming back to those three teams, the Cardinals, the Jets, the Browns.
13:15One of those three teams I think make the most sense.
13:19And, you know, I think when you look at past quarterbacks
13:22that maybe have had some of these question marks, I mean, Jackson Dart
13:25may be the more optimistic version of that.
13:29Malik Willis, when he was coming out, was a little bit like that too,
13:31where you see the talent, but it just is very much up and down.
13:35Willis ends up falling to the third round.
13:37But, you know, he was a sought-after quarterback this past year in free agency.
13:41And I think there's some optimism for what he could look like as a starter.
13:44So, you know, but he's three years removed from where he was as a prospect.
13:49And so there's plenty of questions with Sorsby.
13:52And hopefully we get some more answers here before the supplemental draft in a month.
13:56I've heard this so many times.
13:57Do you think that this is a realistic premise to get Sorsby in the supplemental draft
14:02and turn around and take Jeremiah Smith in the draft next year?
14:07Yeah, I mean, that's obviously a half-glass-full type of scenario.
14:13Look, Jeremiah Smith is the type of guy that you –
14:16he's one of the best players I've ever scouted, plain and simple.
14:18He's the type of guy that you, you know, think about making that type of pick
14:25with a top-three pick and how he can change your offense.
14:29But I think that's a lot to put on Sorsby.
14:32I really do.
14:33And, you know, I would feel tough, you know, really banking on that and saying,
14:41you know, this is our future, it's going that route.
14:44But like we said, who knows if Arch Manning and Dante Moore and these quarterbacks,
14:48this quarterback class we're talking about as being, you know,
14:52such a difference-making class, who knows if it lives up to that.
14:55And so maybe you try to get your quarterback now,
14:58and then if, say, you have the third pick and the teams at one and two
15:03are both taking a quarterback and they won't trade,
15:05so Manning and Dante Moore go one, two, okay, at three you don't love
15:10any of the other quarterbacks, you take Jeremiah Smith
15:12and you still feel like you're in an okay spot because you did use a third
15:17or fourth-round pick on Sorsby.
15:19So it's one of those scenarios you have to work out and say, all right,
15:23where do the odds this happen and, you know, where do we feel comfortable
15:26taking that swing?
15:28Is it safe to say that you've been hearing some really irresponsible stuff
15:32over the last couple of weeks about Brennan Sorsby in your eyes
15:34and you're kind of frustrated?
15:38No, I mean, I think that it's just important.
15:40It's the dead period, right?
15:42It's summer where there's not a ton to talk about,
15:45so there's a lot of noise out there.
15:47And, you know, frustrated, no, just more want to bring context
15:52to the conversation about how teams are talking about him.
15:58You know, and again, I don't want to make it sound like he's not a talented
16:00player because he absolutely is.
16:02He's raw and there's this cloud hanging over him off the field
16:06that is really unprecedented.
16:08We haven't seen an NFL prospect with this type of issue
16:13and with all these underlying factors.
16:15And so it does make for a complicated evaluation,
16:19and it's going to be fascinating to see how it plays out.
16:22Dane, thank you very much for the time.
16:24All the best to you and yours.
16:25We'll talk to you again soon, friend.
16:27Anytime.
16:28Thanks, guys.
16:28Dane Brugler, NFL draft analyst for the Athletic Falm on Twitter,
16:32at DP Brugler.
16:33Excellent stuff as always.
16:34I got a lot.
16:35I got a lot to say about it.
16:36A lot.
16:37Oh, you do?
16:38Oh, yeah.
16:38I got a lot to say about it.
16:38I got a lot to say about it.
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