00:00I want to mix in something to go with it.
00:02It was very simple.
00:05The last line of defense to common sense is the Big 12
00:09or the college football playoff.
00:11Just saying, and it's within their rights to do so,
00:15you can play, but you're not going to the playoff.
00:19If Brendan Sorsby's the quarterback, you're not playing.
00:22We know that won't happen because they're all chicken bleeps.
00:26That's all these people are.
00:27They're losers.
00:28They're feckless.
00:30They're nothing more than a common whore to the networks.
00:32They're not going to do anything in the name of integrity.
00:36They don't even leave 1% of their day available for that.
00:39It's 100% grift.
00:41So I wanted to put that out there,
00:43but the bigger thing was people are now starting to mine the data.
00:48And one thing, and Yahoo did a good job of this,
00:51Brendan Sorsby in his two years at Cincinnati went 0-8 in November.
00:56After being 5-4 and 7-1 in the months prior.
01:02But within that, and within the grisly numbers,
01:05there are a couple of games that people are really highlighting.
01:092024 against Arizona is a 5.5 point favorite and 2025 against West Virginia is a 5.5 point favorite.
01:15When you queue up those games and you queue up what he did in those games,
01:23um, yeah, at a minimum, you're questioning a few things.
01:28And the fact that you can't say, no, it didn't happen is every reason why the rule on gambling exists.
01:36So if you want to call in, call in 2-4-8-5-3-9-97-97.
01:40I do want to link up a secondary topic because this is turning into the soap opera of summer.
01:46I'm here for it because I think Iserman deserves all of them.
01:49I was going to say Harris-Skubel.
01:51Oh, no, because the Harris-Skubel thing, and we can get to it.
01:54But that's been complicated for the longest time.
01:58And the Tigers starting to win some games, the AL being absolute trash.
02:03It's only going to further complicate his decision.
02:05The other players, by the way, not that we're going this way right now,
02:08but Gleyber Torres and Casey Mize, they're all impending free agents.
02:13To act as if Skubel's the only one who should be dealt, that's not the case.
02:17And look, yes, they've won six out of seven.
02:21Yes, they're sitting, what are they, nine games out?
02:23Eight, eight and a half, I don't know, they're in last place.
02:26The whole point is they've shaved, look, three and seven, you've gone six and four.
02:31There's your 10-game rip because the Guardians have lost some games now.
02:36That's going to continue to be complicated.
02:39No, the Iserman thing, did you see the quote?
02:42And this is from an agent.
02:45And I want to ask you the question as you sit here today, whose side are you on?
02:49Because the more that comes out, the more I take Larkin's side.
02:55Here's the quote from an agent regarding Larkin and Iserman.
03:00They don't speak unless they've had to.
03:03They haven't for a while.
03:04That's become common knowledge about the situation in Detroit.
03:09Steve and Larkin coexisted, but they didn't get along at all.
03:13And that's been known by others for a while now.
03:17Close quote.
03:17See, this is my problem.
03:20I'm not telling you either side deserves all the blame.
03:24I'm not telling you either side is blameless.
03:27But this is a Steve Iserman problem.
03:30Remember all the reports we've talked about?
03:33He's hard to get along with.
03:34He's hard to deal with.
03:36He's hard to negotiate with.
03:38He's hard to trade with.
03:40Then factor in, in his time in Tampa Bay, he alienated a then legend of the franchise.
03:48Part of it had to do with his role as the GM of Team Canada, but Martin St. Louis.
03:54And he traded him.
03:57And he did a brilliant job because there wasn't a huge market for St. Louis at that point.
04:01But the idea is he didn't get along with his start.
04:04It was a rough patch.
04:06This is who he is.
04:07At what point is the general manager of the Detroit Red Wings?
04:10Is it your job to get along with your captain?
04:13Is it your job to build around them?
04:16Instead of taking pithy little shots and press conferences back and forth.
04:20I just want to know, now that we're a week into this, whose side are you on?
04:26Do I think Larkin did you any favors with the list he put out there?
04:30No.
04:30But I don't think there's a hockey fan, an agent, an insider, a writer,
04:34who believes that that list isn't going to expand if Dylan Larkin wants to get out of town.
04:41But are you Team Larkin or Team Iserman?
04:43Because I find it impossible to take Steve's side on just about anything at this point.
04:48And the fact that Larkin wants out, the fact that he doesn't get along with Iserman,
04:53the fact that, bottom line, it's known around the league that Evan Jenkins is a hero for having ice coffee,
05:00but also that Iserman and Larkin cannot coexist.
05:05Yeah, I'm sorry.
05:06You can take whatever shots you want at the player.
05:09You can knock him.
05:10You can say what he isn't.
05:12But who does get along with Steve Iserman?
05:15Who does?
05:15Well, that and the fact that I think Larkin has given this team a ton of service.
05:21And I think, Mike, the riff, if it didn't begin then, it was shortly thereafter, two years ago,
05:28when Larkin came out and said, yeah, the locker room really wanted to add some bodies.
05:33We thought that we can get this thing done, and management decided not to do that.
05:37Remember, he made Larkin wait to get to see.
05:39Yeah.
05:40You know, there's a feeling of...
05:42You got to earn this.
05:43Yeah, okay.
05:44You got to join the club.
05:45It's almost like fraternity hazing.
05:47Like, yeah, you know what?
05:48Go sharpen my pencils.
05:50But I want to know where you guys are at as we sit here today.
05:52Now the latest piece of info has dropped.
05:55We all knew they didn't get along.
05:56But to hear it from an agent, to hear how widespread...
06:00It's one thing if we here in town know something.
06:03It's another when it becomes kind of like U.S. currency.
06:07I mean, it's everywhere.
06:08Everyone knows these two hit each other.
06:11These two will coexist, but they'll only speak when they have to.
06:15Like, at what point does this fall on Steve Eisner?
06:19Because you don't have any reports of Dylan Larkin being a terrible guy.
06:24Okay?
06:25You have plenty of reports about plenty of players over the years.
06:28You know, like Max Pacioretty, you know, the Party Boys and different things.
06:34And, you know, I don't want to name every malcontent in league history.
06:37The whole idea is, hey, hockey players run a little bit wild anyways.
06:42But the idea is, around the league, Larkin is well-liked.
06:46Right.
06:47No, I was going to say, if the worst thing you could say about him is he's a second-line
06:50center,
06:51okay.
06:53Listen, I just want to know, because I'm on Larkin's side with him.
07:00I'm not caping up for him.
07:01He failed us, too.
07:03But in this battle, I don't see how this whole town hasn't done like a Homelander laser beam
07:10eyeball at Eiserman.
07:12Like, this is you.
07:14You got to ride the horse you saddled, Steve.
07:17This is the fruits of your labor after seven years that your homegrown, Red Wing fan, U of M grad,
07:27captain, is asking out.
07:30And the reports come out about how much the two of you can't stand each other, and then
07:35zoom out.
07:37Everything said about Eiserman.
07:39Difficult to deal with.
07:40Difficult to trade with.
07:41Difficult to be around.
07:42Mike, you saw that.
07:43Well, no.
07:44Hey, we wanted to add other pieces.
07:46Well, you know, Montreal didn't add.
07:48We didn't add.
07:49They just, their players just stepped up and did something like, wow, we're just taking
07:53shots at each other now through the media.
07:55But are you Team Larkin, or are you Team Eiserman?
07:59No one's blameless.
08:00No one gets 100% of the blame.
08:02But I'm Team Larkin.
08:04And this Eiserman thing, look, we've said this for a couple of years now.
08:08It's going to be really hard to rebuild if agents don't like you.
08:12If agents don't want to deal with you.
08:14If you're impossible to trade with.
08:16We've had these conversations about Scott Harris.
08:19Not about anyone not liking Scott Harris.
08:21We don't have any evidence of that.
08:22But that Scott Harris is largely impossible to trade with.
08:26You're not doing yourself a favor.
08:29And as I sit here now.
08:32Yeah, I understand Dylan Larkin's trade list initially was kind of a, an F you to the franchise.
08:38But you, you're the, you're the ones who gave him the right.
08:41He'll expand that list if he wants to leave.
08:44But I want to know what side you're on with the latest quote.
08:47They don't speak unless they had to.
08:49They haven't for a while.
08:52Like, at what point is the GM held accountable?
08:55You know, we, we bitch and moan about the locker room.
08:58Who's the guy who puts the locker room together?
09:00So if you'd gone years without speaking to your captain, whose fault is that?
09:06You allowed it to fester.
09:08And I stand on, I, I'll, I'll believe this till I go to my grave.
09:12When he went to the Olympics and he went to the four nations, it's like when the boys are on
09:17a trip and one guy's about to get a gauge to a woman, they all hate.
09:21Hey, lean on you.
09:22Or they're leaning on you.
09:24You got to break up with Debra.
09:25She's a problem.
09:27They, he had Eichel and he had Kachuk.
09:30And he had Hughes.
09:31You got to, you got to divorce Detroit.
09:34She's a problem.
09:35You see what you can have over here?
09:37Or, but guys, maybe they didn't do that.
09:40Maybe he was just like, wait, your wife actually calls and supports you.
09:44Your wife doesn't make you check in.
09:47Wait, your wife just said, go and have fun and don't worry about it.
09:52Really?
09:52That's how you get treated at home.
09:55He may have just had that where he just observed and said, listening to the stories.
10:00Yeah.
10:00Cause I'm sure Stevie does that for you.
10:02Right?
10:03No.
10:05You guys actually get meals cooked for you.
10:07Wow.
10:08Two, four, eight, five, three, nine, 97, 97.
10:11You want to call in about Sorsby and what we brought up?
10:13Let's do it.
10:14You want to call in about Larkin V.
10:16You got another info nugget out there.
10:19I think it's one that we've all speculated on or known, but it's always good when you get a direct
10:25quote from someone in the game, an agent.
10:29It's pretty damning.
10:31And at a certain point, Iserman has to own it.
10:34These are the fruits of your labor.
10:36And it's another captain you've had a toxic relationship with.
10:40Not the first time.
10:42That's the problem.
10:44Two, four, eight, five, three, nine, 97, 97.
10:46We will get to the phone calls.
10:48We'll roll both topics, 97, one.
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