00:00We're going to get to the lines eventually, because I know we have to.
00:03But much like yesterday, variety is the spice of life.
00:07There are plenty of other things that I think warrant some airtime.
00:12One of them should be the fact Paul Serra has lived here for 15 years and has never had a
00:16shawarma.
00:17But we'll just avoid that.
00:18We'll just move it on down the line.
00:20A stunning revelation to start the day today.
00:23Paul Serra is a food connoisseur.
00:26How do you live in Metro Detroit and never have a shawarma?
00:28How is that possible?
00:30I mean, that's like not having a full-time GM in the middle of your hockey season.
00:35Oh, wait.
00:37I guess anything's possible.
00:39Yes, go ahead, David.
00:40I was just going to say, I think Paul's an alien.
00:43I don't understand him.
00:44Don't understand him.
00:45Also, doesn't like mustard.
00:47I mean, we're learning so much about Paul.
00:49These are the days of discovery.
00:51It's an overrated condiment.
00:54Remarkable.
00:55Well, let's get into it.
00:57I made a joke about the wings.
00:59We may as well start there because Elliott Friedman has more.
01:02I don't even know what to say anymore.
01:04I really don't.
01:07I mean, I can tell you now I'm actively rooting against them.
01:11I want them to lose until they blow it up.
01:14I know that sounds horrible, but I just don't know another way out of this.
01:19I don't know what will shake them and return them to sensible behavior.
01:24Dylan Larkin is at home.
01:27He's in a standoff.
01:28I mean, Elliott Friedman has basically said it.
01:30Anyone knows it.
01:32He's given him 10 teams.
01:33They haven't fulfilled the trade request.
01:35He quit.
01:37He's down a half a million bucks and counting.
01:40But you got to remember something.
01:41They're not taking that money out of his pocket.
01:44He's just not getting paid.
01:46There's a big difference.
01:47It's not like he owes the team the money.
01:51It's not like he's not going to be able to pay his DTE bill.
01:54That's not what this is.
01:56So Larkin is status quo.
01:59The problem is Elliott Friedman reporting today.
02:02And I don't know if we have the audio, the way he talks bothers me to try it.
02:07But here's Elliott Friedman, the latest on Dylan Larkin.
02:11Take a listen to this.
02:35Oh, good.
02:36That's great.
02:37And for all the fun we have, whether you want to treat the organization like a piñata,
02:42whether you want to treat Larkin like a piñata, they're both losers.
02:46No one wins.
02:48You're down your best player, and he's sitting at home.
02:52No one wins.
02:54And a team is offering you a young player who's got top six potential here
02:59and three first-round picks.
03:01You don't want to do it.
03:03Okay.
03:05Larkin, if you expand your list to Montreal or Boston, a deal could be done.
03:11You don't want to expand your list.
03:13Okay.
03:14Guys, it's mutually assured destruction.
03:16But wait, there's more.
03:18Because just yesterday, Elliott Friedman reported,
03:21in very plain language, Simon Evanson has played his last game as a Red Wink.
03:26He ain't going to be here.
03:28You have angered him so much that a guy who paid his own way to training camp,
03:33paid his own insurance, wanted to be here,
03:38now is willing to sit the season out and go play in Sweden.
03:42And he'll get offer sheeted.
03:44And you'll end up having to let him go and take the compensation
03:48because you're not going to match what an offer sheet comes in at
03:51because you don't want to pay him.
03:55And even if you did want to pay him, you don't want to pay him the term he wants.
04:00That's before you get to the rumors that are out there that San Jose
04:03potentially offered Michael Misa, who was a top-five pick a couple of years ago
04:07and a young centerman with first-line real potential.
04:10Guys, I don't know what to say.
04:12I don't.
04:13But we continue to go down this path where I don't know how this is going to resolve
04:20with Larkin.
04:21I don't know what magical deal you're going to pull.
04:26And even if you do get a good deal down the line,
04:28you're doing it at the cost of this season.
04:31You've lost four in a row, and I sure hope the Panthers win tonight
04:34and make it five.
04:35I hope it's 10.
04:36I hope it's 15.
04:38Things need to get so bad it forces change
04:41that it forces an alteration in behavior.
04:45That's how I view it.
04:46You may disagree, and that's totally cool.
04:49It's America.
04:49This isn't North Korea.
04:51But I'd love to know what your reaction is.
04:55We've talked about this.
04:57And whether it's teams that aren't on the list making you offers
05:00or teams that are on the list, Sean Horkoff is not executing a trade.
05:07You're off in three first-round picks.
05:09Nope.
05:11Well, what do you think you're getting?
05:13I have said this since early summer.
05:18There's no realistic pathway to a non-futures-driven deal.
05:23There's just not.
05:26And if I have to wait three months into the season, four months, five months,
05:32how is that helping me?
05:35And mind you, none of these are – like, for instance,
05:39you don't have to be thrilled with Yurov and three first-round picks,
05:42but if you have a real GM, those three first-round picks become a weapon.
05:47They become something you can then, by way of a second deal,
05:52go out and begin to replace Dylan Larkin.
05:55I'm not telling you it's optimal.
05:57None of this is optimal.
05:59But not having your captain play and getting nothing for him in the meantime,
06:04that ain't optimal either.
06:07Having a 23-year-old defenseman who wanted to re-sign here,
06:11who's really outside of Moe Sider, your only physical presence back there at 6'6",
06:15and having him so angry that, in the words of Elliott Friedman,
06:19he's played his last game here, how's that a win?
06:23Whether he sits it out, goes to Sweden, gets offer-sheeted down the line,
06:27won't be able to play in the league this year, or you trade him, how's it a win?
06:34That's the problem in all of this.
06:36None of this results in you, the paying customer, being given a fair shake
06:40for your time, energy, and most importantly, your money.
06:44And I really just don't know what the direction is.
06:48So I'd love to hear from you.
06:51That's the latest on both.
06:54And just when is this going to resolve?
06:57Because here's the other problem.
07:00You can vilify either side.
07:02Vilify both.
07:02I don't care.
07:03There's no winner in any of this.
07:06But to me, Larkin's only, his value's only going down.
07:14You know what Minnesota's going to do as we get into winter?
07:16They're going to target somebody else.
07:19They'll use that capital to go get somebody else.
07:21And then what?
07:24I just, this is the problem I have with the Sean Horkoff situation.
07:29He's a substitute teacher.
07:31You're better off at this point, not that you're going to do it.
07:35Name him full-time GM.
07:37Give him the autonomy to do what he's got to do.
07:39I'd take the deal from Minnesota, and then I'd spin those parts into something else.
07:44I understand it's driving, you know, a little bit out of your way to get to the same destination, but
07:49I'm just, I'm tired.
07:52I mean, I want you to think about this.
07:53When did the trade request come through?
07:55May?
07:57May, June, July, August, September, October, November, what are we, six and a half, seven months later?
08:05What do you think's going to happen?
08:09What do you think, what is this?
08:13You think you're going to trade Dylan Larkin and Gavin McKenna is going to descend from the clouds?
08:18Like, what is this?
08:22I just, I really want to know from Red Wing fans, this is on both fronts now.
08:29Larkin is so upset with you, he quit.
08:34And Evanston's so upset with you that in the words of Elliott Friedman, he will never play for the Red
08:39Wings again.
08:43That's where I don't understand how people side with this franchise.
08:47And here's the last piece to this, and you don't have to care, but I don't think you can tell
08:52me that this is fake or wrong.
08:55What do you think agents and players think of your franchise right now?
09:00Like, if we're being real about this, forget about old time hockey, eh?
09:05Step back from all that crap.
09:07The game is run by agents, and player empowerment has never been higher, right?
09:13What do you think the winged wheels reputation around the league is right now?
09:20You may not sympathize with Larkin or Evanston, but you know who does?
09:25Players.
09:27Agents.
09:28I just, again, if you have any hope, and remember the reports that one of the final straws for Iserman
09:37was a couple of players, including Numbnuts from Columbus, the kid who played at U of M.
09:44Wierenski, thank you.
09:46I'm sorry, Dave.
09:47My mind is mushed today.
09:49You know, you weren't on his list of approved trade demands.
09:53If you ever hope to be a place that people want to play, you really think running your franchise
09:59this way is the pathway to that?
10:02I'll tell you right now, outside of Winnipeg, which is a hellhole, this is one of the bottom
10:08five places in hockey to play.
10:10Nobody wants beer.
10:11Nobody.
10:13We don't have state tax advantages.
10:14We don't have great weather.
10:16The arena that was new is not new anymore.
10:19You don't have talent.
10:21You have an organization that seemingly nickel and dimes their players and is willing to go
10:25to war over ridiculous stuff.
10:28Doesn't like long-term deals.
10:32And may or may not, may or may not, have weird unwritten rules about we paid this guy
10:39this and you can't make a penny more than that.
10:41Okay.
10:41You know what?
10:43Tell me I'm wrong.
10:45I'm here till six.
10:46So Elliot Friedman basically saying, stand off with Larkin.
10:51They have a standing offer for Minnesota.
10:53You're off in three firsts.
10:55They don't want it.
10:56He won't expand his list.
10:58Everyone loses.
10:59And Friedman, Simon Evans has played his last game as a Red Wing.
11:05Tell me how we win.
11:07Tell me how any of this yields your time, money, and emotion being rewarded in any way.
11:16You know, I said this to Paul earlier.
11:18Guys, I've done, forget about just being a sports fan.
11:21I've done this job since I was 20.
11:24Okay?
11:24I got 26 years doing this.
11:28When I tell you I have never, I mean this, no hyperbole, no amount of NBA incompetence,
11:38no amount of MLB incompetence.
11:40I have never seen a situation like this in sports.
11:45I haven't.
11:47No hyperbole.
11:48I'm not trying to do hot takes, Stephen A theater.
11:50None of it.
11:51I've never seen it.
11:53You don't have a team president.
11:55You don't have a full-time GM.
11:57Your captain hates you so much he quit, and he's willing to lose 50 Gs a day.
12:01That's going on for seven months, six months.
12:04And a 23-year-old defenseman who you wanted to be a part of your core, you alienated him so
12:10bad,
12:11he went to Sweden.
12:12Then he's skating around Nashville.
12:15And he won't play for you again, according to Elliott Friedman,
12:18is possibly willing to sit the season out.
12:22And he'll go home and play in the Swedish Hockey League.
12:26I mean, how anyone can side with the organization, I really don't know.
12:32And that doesn't mean I approve of everything Dylan Larkin's done.
12:35But I don't know how you side with this organization.
12:39It's just, it's, it's, I'll throw the number out.
12:42Hockey Elite, assemble.
12:44I don't even have the Jeremy Sounder up.
12:46Where are you?
12:46Hold on.
12:47I got to make it official.
12:48The hell is this thing broken over?
12:50There we go.
12:54Hockey Elite.
12:55The floor is yours.
12:562-4-8-5-3-9-97-97.
12:58We'll get to the Lions later.
13:00And also, I'm going to sell you this pen.
13:03I think Kyle Whittingham is trying to get fired.
13:06As if he's reading a book called How to Get Fired in Seven Easy Steps.
13:11I'll sell you that at 3 o'clock.
13:1297.
13:1497.
13:147-H-3-9.
