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00:00Tonight, an extraordinary rebuke.
00:03The House votes to rein in Donald Trump's powers against Iran,
00:07as the war drags on.
00:09Plus, Donald Trump's party officially bucks him
00:12on the ballroom and the slush fund,
00:15which he suggests isn't dead.
00:17Mr. President Trump, get engaged!
00:20Also, in the Trump era,
00:22are Democrats moving away from purity tests for their candidates?
00:26Folks, if your house is on fire,
00:28you don't ask whether the firefighter has problematic DMs.
00:32And add George Santos to the long list of people
00:35facing legal scrutiny after getting a free pass from Trump.
00:41Live at the table,
00:42Bakari Sellers, Batia Angar-Sargon,
00:46Sarah Matthews, Jason Rance, and Anna Navarro.
00:51Americans with different perspectives
00:53aren't talking to each other, but here they do.
01:07Good evening, I'm Abby Phillip in New York.
01:10Tonight, he's losing control.
01:12Donald Trump's party is starting to rebuke him left and right
01:15as he becomes more unpopular,
01:18along with his war, his economy, and his distractions.
01:22Over the last few days,
01:23Republicans have blasted his choice
01:25to lead the nation's intelligence agencies,
01:28choosing a man with no experience and revenge on his mind.
01:32Senate Republicans formally rejected any ballroom funding
01:35from their immigration bill.
01:36And even Trump's DOJ is backing off the $1.8 billion fund
01:41to compensate allies,
01:42which Trump says isn't over.
01:44And perhaps the most extraordinary rebuke,
01:47the House just voted to limit his war powers in Iran,
01:51with four Republicans joining Democrats in that vote.
01:54Now, it seemed that the things were getting rougher,
01:57and the more unglued the president seemed to be today.
02:01That meltdown was pretty evident in the Oval Office,
02:04from sexist attacks to obsessing over his many renovation projects.
02:09The president losing this war powers vote in the House,
02:14I think, is a story of a couple of things.
02:17One, he's getting more unpopular with the public.
02:20This war is unpopular.
02:21But also, when you look at some of the people who voted against it,
02:24he's making enemies left and right in his own base in Congress,
02:30and that's showing up in some of these votes.
02:32I mean, not in this vote.
02:34You have four Republicans who decided to vote for this resolution.
02:39Two of them are in swing districts,
02:40and I think that was a motivating factor.
02:42I mean, losing Thomas Massey, I don't think,
02:44tells you anything really about the popularity of the president.
02:45But hey, when you have a slim majority,
02:48that's the point.
02:49It's not about what an ideal scenario it is.
02:51It's what do you need in order to get the vote?
02:53But it's not a huge shift from where the Republicans generally stand.
02:57It doesn't need to be, is my point.
02:58No, no, I agree with you on that.
03:00I'm simply saying it doesn't tell us much
03:01about the direction of the Republican Party
03:03and whether or not he's, quote-unquote, lost control here.
03:06You lost four votes, two of them.
03:08You expected to lose two of them.
03:10You lost for political purposes.
03:11It doesn't necessarily change the direction right now
03:14of where things stand.
03:15It can in the long term,
03:17but we'll see what ends up happening in the next steps.
03:19I think Marco Rubio, you know,
03:21obviously made the comments yesterday and again today
03:24about the war being over.
03:25I think they're setting up for this off-ramp
03:27in a more meaningful way.
03:28The bigger problem I think we face now here
03:31is we want this all to be over.
03:33The president wants this to be over as well.
03:35You've just made it a lot easier for Iran now
03:37to not take the negotiating seriously
03:39because now they're looking at what's happening
03:41in the House and saying we can wait this out
03:44just a little bit longer.
03:45He's lost the political backing that he had
03:47from his own party.
03:48We're going to continue to just dig in here,
03:50and that's a larger problem.
03:51I think it's less about Trump and it's more about,
03:53well, Trump is unpopular.
03:55This war is unpopular,
03:56but we are now just five months away
03:59from a general election.
04:00Some of the primaries are now over,
04:02so they have switched over to general election campaigning
04:05and this war nobody likes.
04:07And look, Marco Rubio can say as many times as he won
04:09in as many languages as he knows
04:11that this war is over.
04:13I don't know any American who feels that the war is over,
04:15and I don't think Americans are going to feel
04:17that the war is over
04:18when we're still seeing headlines about bombs in Kuwait
04:21and bombs in Lebanon
04:23and conversations with Netanyahu
04:25and the gas prices are through the roof
04:27and the fertilizer prices are through the roof
04:29and people can't make ends meet.
04:32So people don't feel that the war is over,
04:35do not believe that the war is over,
04:37and elections are in five months.
04:39Let me play that exchange that Marco Rubio had
04:41with Sarah Jacobs on Capitol Hill today.
04:46If the war is over, I have a simple question.
04:49Who won?
04:50First of all, Epic Fury is over,
04:52which is what you would consider the war.
04:54That operation is concluded.
04:55So you agree it's a war then?
04:57No, those are hostilities.
04:58They called it a war.
04:59Okay, fine.
05:00We're taking you at your word.
05:01The war is over.
05:02Who won?
05:03Well, first of all,
05:03you're not taking me at my word.
05:04It's a fact.
05:05We're no longer conducting sustained strikes
05:06inside of Iran to degrade their military
05:08because Epic Fury is over.
05:09The second point is,
05:10on the question of who won,
05:11I can tell you this.
05:13We defined victory,
05:14we defined victory as
05:16destroying their defense industrial base,
05:19significantly reducing the number of missile launchers
05:21that they possess,
05:21significantly reducing their stockpile of drones,
05:24and we achieved all of those,
05:25in addition to destroying what they had left of an air force,
05:28and wiping out their entire conventional navy.
05:30Those are all gone.
05:31So I consider that victory.
05:33That's not victory.
05:35In fact, that's a lie.
05:36And that's not how they were defining it four months ago.
05:40The number one objective of going to Iran
05:41was making sure to prevent them
05:44from getting a nuclear weapon.
05:46Everybody around this table agrees
05:47that Iran does not deserve
05:49or need to have a nuclear weapon.
05:51and the entire world actually probably agrees
05:53with that sentiment
05:54or the overarching majority of them.
05:56He didn't articulate that one time
05:58in anything that he said.
05:59You know why?
06:00Because Iran was further away
06:02from a nuclear weapon under the JCPOA
06:04than they are today.
06:06And that's what this White House
06:08doesn't want you to understand.
06:10This is a failure
06:11when your number one objective,
06:13your number one objective
06:14is something that your Secretary of State
06:15did not even mention.
06:17We talked about the unpopularity of the president.
06:19And I disagree with everybody else.
06:20The president is extremely popular
06:22with his base, period.
06:24But that's why you have
06:25all of these MAGA Republicans
06:27who are running in these general elections
06:28who are caught between a rock and a hard place
06:31because you cannot be popular
06:32with the American people
06:33and be popular within MAGA.
06:36Those two things right now in this country
06:39cannot coexist because people are hurting.
06:41I just want to point out too
06:42that something that you touched on
06:44was the biggest thing
06:45that Trump has been out there saying
06:46is that Iran cannot get a nuclear weapon,
06:48which is something I agree with wholeheartedly.
06:51But just today,
06:52the International Atomic Energy Agency
06:54said that the risk of Iran
06:57acquiring a nuclear weapon
06:58is much higher today
07:00than it was before the war.
07:01So if the war is somehow over,
07:04then why is the risk higher
07:05for them to acquire a nuclear weapon?
07:07So it doesn't seem like
07:09the war is in fact over.
07:10And then you couple that
07:11with the fact that I believe
07:12we're in a much worse position
07:13than we were before we entered this war,
07:14whether you look at gas prices skyrocketing,
07:17the U.S. being more isolated
07:19than ever before.
07:20We upset a lot of our allies
07:21by not really tipping them off
07:23to our plan to go after Iran.
07:25And I think that we're
07:27in a much weaker position.
07:28So actually, in fact,
07:29I can't see a place
07:31in which the war is over
07:32no matter how many times
07:33Mark Rubio wants to speak it into existence.
07:36If it's over and we did not meet
07:38our number one objective,
07:39the thing that Donald Trump
07:40hates to hear the most
07:41is that we lost.
07:43If this war is over
07:44and we did not accomplish
07:45our number one objective,
07:47we lost.
07:48The fact is, just as you stated,
07:50everybody understands
07:51the reason we went to Iran
07:52supposedly was to keep them
07:54from getting a nuclear weapon.
07:56And the Secretary of State
07:58today testified
07:59and he didn't even mention that
08:00as one of the accomplished goals.
08:01If none of that happens,
08:03if they say the war is over,
08:05but the war is really not over
08:07because we're not back
08:08to where we were before,
08:09the Strait of Hormuz is still closed,
08:11and Iran is still not prevented
08:13from having a nuclear weapon,
08:14how long will MAGA
08:17stand by this conflict?
08:19Well, we're currently in a ceasefire
08:21in which the president
08:22is engaged in active negotiations
08:25to achieve what I totally agree
08:26with Bakari was the main objective
08:29of Operation Epic Fury.
08:31So the hostilities are over,
08:33we're in a ceasefire,
08:34and we are trying to achieve
08:36a deal that would prevent them
08:37But you acknowledge that
08:37we are still shooting
08:38at each other.
08:39Because we bombed Iran
08:41two days ago.
08:43They are striking their allies now,
08:46so there are still hostilities.
08:47Yeah, Trump was asked
08:48in the Oval Office
08:49how he defines a ceasefire,
08:50and he said, I think,
08:51very funnily and very accurately,
08:53well, in that area of the world
08:54it means you're shooting
08:55at each other a little bit
08:56less vigorously
08:57or something along those lines.
08:58I think that's accurate.
08:59So we don't know
09:00how this is going to end.
09:01The problem is
09:02is that the American people
09:04who voted for Donald Trump
09:05are hurting.
09:06They are bearing the cost
09:08of this war disproportionately
09:09because they are the ones
09:10struggling to pay for gas
09:11and struggling to pay for food.
09:13And this is a big problem
09:14for the president,
09:15and I don't know
09:15how aware he is of that.
09:17So he has two competing imperatives.
09:19He cannot get out
09:21without some sort of deal
09:22that is better than the JCPOA,
09:24and he has to somehow
09:26alleviate the pain
09:27and the suffering
09:27of working-class Americans.
09:29In my view,
09:30the best way to do that
09:31is a stimulus check,
09:32and I don't know why
09:32this isn't on the table at all.
09:34I think he needs to give people
09:36some sort of...
09:36Does anybody hear this?
09:38...a tariff rebate
09:39in order to get them
09:41through the summer months?
09:42A tariff rebate?
09:44Yeah, a tariff rebate.
09:45How about just get rid of the tariffs?
09:46Well, we brought in 200...
09:48Wait, weren't you an advocate
09:49for the tariffs?
09:50Yes, exactly.
09:51So then why are you asking
09:52for a rebate?
09:53That's exactly what a rebate is.
09:54But you can't give a stimulus check
09:55while you haven't done anything
09:57to take down inflation.
09:57We brought in $200 billion
10:00in tariffs,
10:01and we should now take
10:02some of that money
10:02and give it to Americans
10:04who are struggling to pay
10:06for gas and groceries.
10:07Actually have to already be refunded
10:09because most of them were illegal.
10:11That's actually...
10:12It's not clear
10:12that they have to be refunded.
10:14They are already being...
10:15We know that they are
10:15already being refunded.
10:17The refunds are happening right now.
10:18Well, no.
10:18People...
10:19Companies are suing for refunds,
10:21but it's not clear
10:21that they're going to get them.
10:22But again...
10:23But we brought in a bunch of money.
10:24Tariffs are a good idea.
10:25Yeah.
10:26I'm very glad we have that money.
10:28Why would you have to rebate the money?
10:29No, I mean...
10:30I mean...
10:31In stimulus checks.
10:33That just makes sense.
10:33What do you mean rebate the money?
10:34I'm saying we brought in
10:35a whole bunch of money,
10:36and we should now give that
10:38to working-class Americans
10:39who are struggling to pay for gas...
10:41But Trump thinks that
10:41the affordability crisis is a hoax...
10:43The reason that gas is high
10:45is for a very noble cause,
10:47which is ensuring that the Iranians
10:48never get a nuclear weapon.
10:50We made things high
10:50through the tariffs,
10:51and then we're going to...
10:52No, we made things high
10:53through Iran.
10:54No, things are...
10:55No, things are...
10:55No, things are...
10:56No, things are...
10:56No, things are...
10:56No, things were high before Iran.
10:58No, gas was under $3 a gallon.
11:00No, gas was under $3 a gallon.
11:01Before Iran...
11:01Gas was under $3 a gallon.
11:04Grosers were high before Iran.
11:04I'm talking about gas and...
11:05No, that's not true.
11:07I'm talking about a bunch of things.
11:08I'm talking about your refrigerator.
11:10The producer price index.
11:12I'm talking about a bunch of stuff.
11:13The producer price index...
11:14I mean, I don't know what bubble
11:15you live in where you think
11:16that the tariffs are going to increase prices.
11:18I'm just talking about what the data...
11:18What the data shows.
11:19I don't know what bubble you live in.
11:20Hold on, Anna.
11:20Let me let her finish,
11:22and then I'll let you respond to me.
11:23The producer price index was down before Iran.
11:24Groceries and gas are now up because of Iran.
11:27Iran, as we all agree,
11:29ensuring that they not achieve a nuclear weapon
11:31is a noble goal.
11:32So Trump needs the leeway to get a good deal.
11:35Inflation was up before Iran.
11:36I said, let's give him another $20 a gallon.
11:38Yeah, let's not.
11:39It was down.
11:39No, prices were clearly coming down on the whole.
11:41And gas was under $3 a gallon.
11:42There were some elements that were up.
11:44There's no doubt about that.
11:44But we're saying, on average, on the whole,
11:47things were down.
11:47That is a fact.
11:48But can we talk about just the strategy of Iran?
11:52Because what I haven't understood
11:53is how you go to war,
11:55Pete Haskett's secretary, Rubio, and others,
11:57and you don't anticipate
11:58that they're going to close the strait of her moves,
12:00which is a great deal.
12:03It bears a great deal of responsibility
12:05for the prices that you-
12:06Why do you think they didn't anticipate it?
12:07Of course they knew they were going to close the strait.
12:09Because you just said we needed refunds.
12:11I mean, I don't understand
12:12how you can articulate one thing
12:14that says that the pain of the American people
12:15is unbearable,
12:16that Republicans are now touting for refund checks.
12:19You're conflating two things, I think, in that case.
12:21I'm the only one telling that, unfortunately.
12:23The president has clearly said multiple times
12:25that he understood,
12:26and they understood that there was risk.
12:27Marco Rubio made that point, I think, earlier today.
12:30They knew that there were going to be some risks,
12:32economically and politically,
12:33but they chose to make this decision
12:34because they think it's best for this world.
12:36Trump has also said
12:38that they didn't think
12:39that they would shut down the strait of her moves.
12:41He did say that.
12:42Yes, he did,
12:42but that does not mean
12:43that they did not think
12:44that that was a possibility.
12:46Well, no.
12:46I mean, he said
12:47They were given that in police.
12:49And he has also said
12:50he also said
12:51there would be regime change.
12:52But also said
12:53Iranians would take their country back.
12:56He said that
12:57after they killed the Ayatollah,
12:58he said that
12:59there had been regime change.
13:00And I don't know anybody
13:02who thinks
13:02that there had been regime change.
13:04They may have other names.
13:05They may have other titles,
13:06but it is still
13:07the same Iranian regime.
13:09And, of course,
13:11you know,
13:11the president
13:13makes this decision
13:14to go into this war
13:15thinking that Iran
13:16is just going to cave instantly
13:17and they don't.
13:18And that's why
13:18we're still here
13:19several months later.
13:20But one other thing
13:21about today,
13:22you know,
13:22the president
13:23in the Oval Office
13:24really lost it
13:25on several occasions,
13:26including to our colleague
13:28Caitlin Collins
13:30accusing her again
13:31of not smiling
13:32for whatever reason.
13:33Sarah,
13:35you've worked for him.
13:36What's behind it?
13:38I will say that
13:39during my time
13:40working as Deputy Press Secretary
13:42in the first Trump administration,
13:44Caitlin Collins
13:45was the one reporter
13:46that scared
13:46Kayleigh McEnany
13:47and President Trump
13:48the most.
13:48There would be times
13:49where Kayleigh McEnany
13:50wouldn't even call
13:51on Caitlin Collins
13:52at press conferences,
13:53at press briefings,
13:54because she didn't want
13:55to answer the questions,
13:57because Caitlin Collins
13:58is a very,
13:59very good reporter.
14:00She's the best
14:01at what she does.
14:02And I think that's why
14:03you see Trump
14:03go after her
14:04more ferociously
14:05than any other reporter
14:06in that room.
14:07And it is disgusting
14:08to watch him tell
14:09a woman
14:10that she needs to smile
14:11while doing her job.
14:13I've seen Caitlin
14:14smile plenty of times,
14:15but when she's asking
14:16someone a hard-hitting question,
14:18I don't think that
14:18that means that she has
14:19to smile while doing it.
14:21And he brings it up
14:22time and time again,
14:23and it's these
14:24misogynistic attacks,
14:25not just against Caitlin.
14:26You know,
14:26he told her today
14:27to be quiet
14:28while she tried
14:29to ask a follow-up question.
14:30We've seen him say
14:31quiet piggy
14:32to a female reporter,
14:34another great female reporter,
14:36I will add,
14:37someone I worked with
14:37during my time
14:38in the first Trump administration.
14:39And so I wish
14:41that this wasn't normalized
14:43and that we weren't
14:44desensitized to this type
14:45of behavior
14:45from the president,
14:46but it really is appalling.
14:47And I just want to give,
14:49you know,
14:49kudos to Caitlin Collins.
14:51And he called another reporter,
14:53said to her,
14:54are you stupid or something?
14:55I mean,
14:55just it's time
14:56after time after time.
14:57And I'll tell you,
14:58one of the things
14:58that really bothers me
14:59is that there is not
15:00more solidarity
15:02and outrage
15:02from the press
15:03in that room.
15:04Because I would like
15:05to think that
15:05if I was in that room
15:06and my colleague
15:07was being treated that way,
15:08I would say,
15:10screw you,
15:10I'm leaving,
15:11you go ahead
15:11and you cover yourself.
15:12Leave yourself here
15:13with OAN
15:14and with Fox News
15:15and let that be
15:16what your national coverage is.
15:18And that's why
15:18I feel that it is
15:19so ridiculous
15:20and hypocritical
15:22for people to go sit
15:23at a White House
15:24correspondence dinner
15:25where Donald Trump
15:26is speaking
15:27and we're supposed
15:28to be celebrating
15:28the free press
15:29when practically
15:30on a weekly basis
15:32we have to hear
15:33his rants
15:34against women
15:35who are doing
15:36their jobs
15:37as journalists.
15:37And that is why
15:38even though
15:39it's just been
15:40rescheduled,
15:40I refuse to go,
15:42I refuse to go then
15:43and I refuse to go now
15:44because it makes
15:45no damn sense.
15:46All right,
15:46we'll leave it there.
15:47Next for us,
15:48Republicans are also
15:49rebuking Trump
15:50on his ballroom,
15:51the slush fund,
15:52which the president
15:53won't definitively say
15:54is dead.
15:55Plus,
15:56George Santos
15:56is back again
15:57and he's under investigation
15:58again joining
16:00a long list of people
16:01facing legal issues
16:02after getting free passes
16:04from Donald Trump.
16:14The Republican rebellion
16:15keeps growing
16:16over some of the president's
16:17biggest priorities.
16:18Tonight,
16:19not only did GOP leaders
16:20scrap funding
16:21for his prized
16:21White House ballroom
16:22out of their immigration package,
16:24they're also threatening
16:25to kill his nearly
16:26$1.8 billion slush fund
16:28for his allies
16:29and for good.
16:32I think even DOJ
16:33knows that this was
16:34a bad idea
16:35and what we need to do
16:36is provide finality.
16:38We've got to either
16:38eliminate it,
16:40streamline it,
16:41guardrail it.
16:42It can't go in its
16:42current form
16:43and if that's the only
16:44choice we should have,
16:45we should eradicate it.
16:48Tillis says
16:48that he plans
16:49to introduce an amendment
16:50that would permanently
16:51shut down the fund
16:52by tying it
16:54to that massive
16:54immigration bill.
16:55But the president
16:56continues to fight
16:57for the fund
16:58and he refuses
16:58to let the issue go.
17:01Is the $1.8 billion
17:03DOJ fund dead
17:04or is it on hold?
17:06It's, uh,
17:07I'd have to ask the lawyers,
17:08I don't know.
17:09The weaponization fund,
17:11uh, as far as I'm concerned,
17:13was a beautiful thing.
17:15It was something I was,
17:17I didn't make it,
17:18but I was,
17:18I heard that,
17:19I thought that was
17:20the greatest thing.
17:23So not only is he,
17:25um, vigorously defending
17:26this weaponization fund,
17:27but I just also want
17:28to remind people
17:29that even though,
17:30uh,
17:31DOJ has said
17:32they are not moving
17:33forward with it,
17:34they refuse to actually
17:35put that in writing,
17:36which is why Republicans
17:37are pushing back
17:38and saying,
17:39we might have to do
17:40something about that.
17:41I'm so glad to see this.
17:42I'm so glad to see them
17:43tank the weaponization fund,
17:45which was so gross.
17:46I mean,
17:47the idea that a person
17:48who beat up a cop
17:50could get compensation
17:51for that just disgusts me.
17:53And I'm so glad to see them
17:54not funding the ballroom.
17:56Like, as we said before,
17:57Americans are hurting.
17:58It's not the time
17:58to be doing these kinds
17:59of projects
18:00and asking the American
18:01taxpayer to pay for it.
18:02So good on the Republicans
18:03for saying,
18:04look,
18:05this stuff is not consistent
18:06with our values right now.
18:07Let me play,
18:09actually,
18:09on the ballroom,
18:09let me just play
18:10what Scott Besant said
18:12about the ballroom
18:13when he was questioned today.
18:17There is no cost
18:18to the American people.
18:19If there is a new bill
18:21for the ballroom,
18:23the decorative part
18:25of the ballroom
18:25is privately funded
18:27and everything
18:27that you were talking about...
18:29The president requested
18:30a billion dollars
18:31for the White House ballroom
18:32in our budget.
18:33He has spent $45 million
18:35on a military birthday parade.
18:37So...
18:37That all...
18:38Look,
18:39it goes on
18:40outside my office
18:41every day.
18:42I've watched it progress
18:43and it is
18:44national security matters
18:45that the billion dollars
18:46is for.
18:47That's ridiculous
18:48and I think you know it.
18:51National security matters.
18:53Meanwhile,
18:54just to point out,
18:55they're building
18:56an outdoor stadium
18:57outside the White House
18:59that is open air
19:00that the president
19:01is supposed to attend
19:02a UFC game at
19:03in a couple of months.
19:04Fight.
19:05Excuse me.
19:08You were about to just
19:09get roasted on that.
19:11I just...
19:12I mean,
19:12I think that in your read,
19:14I think that it highlighted
19:15the fundamental problem
19:16and disconnect
19:17with Donald Trump
19:18and the rest of the American
19:19public at whole
19:20and MAGA
19:21and the rest of the American public.
19:22You outlined his priorities.
19:24And right now,
19:25his priorities are the water,
19:26the little water thing
19:27in front of the Washington Monument.
19:30Reflecting pool.
19:30The reflecting pool
19:32or whatever.
19:33And then his other priority
19:34is a ballroom
19:35and then his other priority
19:36is a slush fund.
19:38Don't forget the arch.
19:39Oh, and the arch.
19:40And then you have
19:40the UFC...
19:41...the UFC stadium
19:43he's building.
19:44Like, none of that
19:45drives down prices.
19:47None of that keeps Iran
19:48from getting a nuclear weapon.
19:50None of that is actually
19:51the eye on the ball
19:52of what you want
19:53the president
19:53of the United States
19:54to be doing.
19:54And for people who say
19:55you didn't vote for this,
19:57yes, you did.
19:58You knew this man
19:59had no leadership capability
20:01whatsoever
20:01when you elected him again.
20:03And this is what you get.
20:05You get his top five priorities
20:07as he sits here today.
20:08He had a whole diagram up
20:09with the little swimming pool
20:10in the front yard.
20:13And nothing that he does
20:16can actually improve
20:17the quality of life
20:18for most average Americans.
20:19Those are his top five priorities.
20:21It's been an astounding
20:22level of tone deafness
20:25week after week,
20:27event after event,
20:29boondoggle after boondoggle,
20:31as the American people
20:33are having such a hard time
20:35making ends meet.
20:36It's just, you know,
20:36it's the convergence
20:37of the two things.
20:39The frivolity that's going on
20:41and just the frivolity.
20:43F-R-I-V-O-I.
20:44Don't use those big words, right?
20:45I know.
20:47Come on.
20:49The let them eat cake attitude
20:51going on,
20:52and on frivolous projects
20:54on this side,
20:55on the White House side,
20:56on the Trump side,
20:57the grift,
20:58the family enrichment.
20:59It's one thing after another,
21:00after another,
21:01the $40 million documentary
21:04by Melania.
21:05Jason, you're shaking your head.
21:06While people can't pay for gas.
21:08Why are you shaking your head?
21:09Because it's an exaggerated
21:10reaction to this.
21:12This idea that this is
21:13like the biggest priority
21:14is obviously not true.
21:16Iran is his biggest priority.
21:17The fact that he's talking
21:19with a skill of speed.
21:20Hold on.
21:20Okay, wait, wait, hold on.
21:21Let me ask you a question, though.
21:23Because he called that Oval Office
21:25impromptu press conference today,
21:27and can you tell me why he did?
21:30Well, he talked to a bunch of reporters,
21:32which is something that is kind of important.
21:34What was the top issue on his mind
21:35that caused him to bring reports?
21:37The swimming pool.
21:37The idea that this is the top?
21:40It was because he wanted to show
21:41the reporters a chart that,
21:43by the way,
21:43he had shown them before
21:44of the size of the reflecting pool
21:47compared to skyscrapers.
21:50Yes, I'm not moved by the fact
21:52that the guy who's interested
21:53and obsessed with real estate
21:54and projects
21:55is actually talking about this.
21:57This idea, however...
21:58So you acknowledge that he's obsessed
21:59with real estate and projects.
22:01I think that is clearly something
22:03that he's interested in.
22:04I'm not arguing
22:05that he's not interested in this.
22:06I am, however, arguing
22:08that it's not his top priority.
22:10That is the kind of exaggerated reaction
22:12that I do think ends up
22:13dismissing legitimate concerns
22:16that you raise,
22:17specifically on Geron.
22:18You can talk about something
22:20without it being
22:22your number one priority.
22:23We have to acknowledge that.
22:24I will say,
22:25going back to legitimate concerns then,
22:27I do want to touch on something
22:28that Bhatia mentioned,
22:30which was the January 6th
22:31$1.8 billion slush fund
22:33and how we know that
22:35if that does end up happening,
22:36that money could potentially
22:38go to January 6th rioters.
22:40And that is something
22:41that I have been encouraged
22:42to see Republicans
22:43actually finding their backbone
22:45and pushing back on
22:46and saying,
22:46no, we don't want to see
22:48this slush fund happen.
22:50And...
22:50It's dead.
22:51But he says it's not.
22:53No, he did not say
22:54it's not dead.
22:54He just literally
22:55didn't use the words
22:56it is dead.
22:57He said, I love it.
22:58He talked all about January 6th
23:00and how his crowd sizes
23:01and how it was a day of love
23:03and celebration.
23:03He said it was killed
23:03by the courts.
23:04And friendship.
23:05He said people were crying.
23:07But that was his acknowledgement
23:08No, but he's going to do
23:09everything in his power
23:10to make it happen
23:11because he does want to see his...
23:12I'm not trying to...
23:14I don't need a Ouija board
23:15to try to figure out
23:16what Trump means
23:17or what he doesn't mean.
23:18The courts didn't kill it.
23:19So the issue now
23:20for Republicans
23:21is going to be
23:22what are they going to do about it?
23:23And some of them
23:23are actually considering
23:25passing legislation
23:26that would make it permanent
23:28that that slush fund
23:29never exists.
23:30I also want to just point out
23:31one other thing.
23:32The Bill Pulte thing
23:33at DNI
23:35choosing the director
23:36of national intelligence
23:37who has zero qualifications,
23:38that seems to be like
23:40the next frontier
23:41for where Republicans
23:42are going to really
23:43start to lose it
23:44on this administration
23:45in terms of the pushback.
23:46He has one qualification,
23:48which is blind loyalty.
23:49So I know that...
23:50So that's exactly
23:51what Trump wants, though,
23:52in that role.
23:53He doesn't care about
23:54national security credentials,
23:55doesn't care that the guy
23:56doesn't have any experience
23:57in intelligence,
23:58has never had
23:58a security clearance,
24:00no geopolitical connections
24:01as far as I know.
24:02But that is the one thing
24:03that he wants.
24:04And he wants someone
24:05in that role
24:06to go after his perceived
24:07political enemies.
24:08We saw him do it
24:09with Tulsi Gabbard as well.
24:10And obviously now
24:11she is left.
24:12And so he wants to fill
24:13that vacancy
24:14with someone who will be
24:15willing to carry
24:16those things out.
24:17The very practical
24:17political problem
24:18goes back to something
24:19that Abby said earlier,
24:20which is that
24:21you now have Thune
24:23not Thune,
24:24excuse me,
24:24Cornyn.
24:25You now have Cornyn.
24:25You now have Cassidy.
24:26You now have Tillis.
24:27You have these individuals
24:28who kind of have
24:28this unbridled sense of...
24:30Well, you do have Thune,
24:31too, because he's not
24:31a fan of Bill Pulte.
24:32Well, I mean,
24:34that's what I was thinking about.
24:35So I have a feeling
24:37that Bill Pulte's going to have
24:38a rough ride
24:39to getting that DNI spot.
24:40And it's not just the loyalty.
24:42It's the second part
24:42that you mentioned
24:43is the vindictiveness.
24:44He has proven himself
24:45to be this, you know,
24:48an operative,
24:49a Trump toady
24:51who will not only be loyal,
24:52but will use government
24:54against Trump's enemies.
24:55Right?
24:55We saw what he did
24:56with the housing agencies
24:57and Letitia James,
24:59and that's why
25:00he wants him there.
25:01But also remember,
25:02this DNI position,
25:03it was created after 9-11.
25:05Some of these senators
25:06that are still there
25:07are old and were there
25:08when these laws were created,
25:11which was, you know,
25:11I remember the first DNI officer.
25:14It was John Negroponte,
25:16an intelligence officer,
25:18somebody with impeccable credentials.
25:20So I think even for Republicans,
25:23it is galling
25:24that we would give this DNI position
25:26to somebody who is
25:27an unqualified, vindictive,
25:30you know, Trump,
25:32bootlicker.
25:33And we've seen Trump
25:34abuse the system
25:34with making them
25:35an acting person as well.
25:37Next for us,
25:38are Democrats putting
25:39too much weight
25:39in purity tests
25:40when it comes to
25:41picking candidates?
25:42We'll debate that next.
25:52Tonight, in the Trump era,
25:54do Democrats need
25:54to abandon purity tests?
25:56Scott Galloway says,
25:58in the case of Graham Plattner,
25:59Democrats ought to.
26:02Every election is a choice,
26:04not a marriage proposal.
26:08We're not hiring a priest.
26:09We're hiring a senator.
26:11Do you want to make sure
26:12that women's rights
26:13aren't continuing
26:14to be rolled back?
26:15Do you want a more
26:16responsible economic policy?
26:18Do you want different
26:19approaches to labor
26:20that raise the wages
26:21of nurses and students?
26:23Do you want something
26:24regarding fiscal sanity?
26:26Do you want to stop,
26:27have a check against
26:28the unfettered,
26:29unprecedented corruption?
26:30But we're going to talk
26:31about tattoos and sexting?
26:34I mean, the obsession
26:36with personal purity
26:38has become a luxury belief.
26:40And folks,
26:41if your house is on fire,
26:42you don't ask
26:43whether the firefighter
26:45has problematic DMs.
26:49Plattner,
26:49the Democrat running
26:50for Senate in Maine,
26:51has faced significant
26:52controversy over a series
26:53of offensive online posts
26:55that he's since apologized for
26:56and a tattoo
26:58that is widely recognized
26:59as a Nazi symbol
27:00that he's since covered up.
27:02Over the weekend,
27:03it was revealed
27:03that Plattner shared
27:04sexually explicit messages
27:06with multiple women
27:07in the early days
27:08of his marriage.
27:09Now, before we begin,
27:10I want to mention
27:10that Batia's new book
27:11is out this week,
27:13The Jews and the Left.
27:14You can pick it up
27:15wherever books are sold.
27:17But I want to go back
27:18to what Scott Galloway
27:19was saying,
27:20because I feel like,
27:22fine,
27:22if you want to have
27:23that perspective,
27:24then you need to stop
27:25complaining about people
27:26voting for Donald Trump,
27:27because that's exactly
27:27the rationale
27:29that people on the right
27:30have when they vote
27:32for Trump.
27:33But they're not going
27:34to stop.
27:35That's actually your choice.
27:36The choice that voters
27:39in Maine have
27:39and voters in Maine
27:40will make is
27:41whether they vote
27:42for a very flawed
27:44candidate in Plattner,
27:47very flawed.
27:48I think so many
27:49different things
27:50that he has done,
27:51I find morally
27:53reprehensible.
27:54But do they vote
27:55for the guy
27:56who's flawed,
27:57or do they vote
27:58for the woman,
27:59the senator,
28:00who has voted 90%
28:01for the president,
28:03with the president,
28:03who is even more flawed,
28:05who has 24-plus
28:07accusations
28:08of sexual misconduct,
28:10who we have heard
28:12be a boast
28:13about sexual assault?
28:14But isn't that,
28:16I mean,
28:16I guess you can't,
28:17if you're saying
28:18that there's no moral
28:20test anymore,
28:22you can do
28:22whatever you want.
28:23You don't think,
28:24you don't think Trump
28:24has changed the moral test
28:26and what we are willing
28:27to accept?
28:28Does that not just
28:30create a permission
28:31structure for people
28:33on the right to say,
28:34hey, put aside
28:36the several marriages,
28:38the grab them by
28:40their you-know-what,
28:41he's going to
28:43outlaw abortion,
28:44he's going to do
28:44all these things
28:45that we care about,
28:45lower taxes,
28:46that's why we voted for him.
28:47I hear Galloway,
28:49and I'm somebody
28:49who believes
28:50in giving people grace,
28:51right?
28:51I don't ever want
28:51to look at anybody
28:52on their worst day,
28:53but people deserve grace
28:54and we should give
28:54ourselves more grace.
28:55I think he was conflating,
28:56though, that when we talk
28:57about purity tests
28:58in the Democratic Party,
28:59most times we're talking
29:00about policy
29:01and ideological purity.
29:02We're talking about
29:03progressive saying,
29:04oh my God,
29:04he's not progressive enough,
29:06so our tent continues
29:07to constrict.
29:09We're not necessarily
29:09talking about the fact
29:11that Donald Trump
29:11has put the moral
29:12and ethical ground
29:13of elected officials
29:14in hell.
29:15Like, that's the bar.
29:16Somewhere in hell.
29:17And so it's very,
29:18very, very low
29:19for anybody to, like,
29:20eclipse that.
29:22I don't want Nazis,
29:24regardless of if
29:24they're going to vote
29:25with me,
29:26like, on wearing
29:27my jersey.
29:28I don't.
29:29And I don't know
29:29Graham Plantner.
29:30I think that's his name.
29:31I don't know
29:31everything about him.
29:33But I do know
29:33that Ken Paxton
29:34is extremely flawed.
29:36Like, beyond flawed.
29:37Like, he has character issues.
29:39I do know that we see
29:40Andy Ogles just yesterday
29:42talking about
29:43not gay marriage,
29:45but just being gay
29:46in this country
29:47is an abomination.
29:49Like, so I think
29:51that we have to get back
29:52to a point where,
29:53where, and I say this
29:55to people all the time,
29:56I say being a pastor
29:56and being an elected
29:57official are the only
29:58professions in this world
29:59where people expect
30:01more from you
30:01than they expect
30:02from themselves.
30:03And we used to have
30:04individuals who were
30:05in elected office
30:06who had some monochrome
30:07of respect and dignity.
30:08I would like to get
30:09back there,
30:10but I'm not,
30:10to agree with Galloway
30:12a little bit,
30:12I'm not about
30:13unilateral disarmament
30:14either.
30:15There's a few issues here.
30:17Number one,
30:18this is a guy
30:19who the Democratic base
30:20chose before the primary
30:22season even took place,
30:24really took place,
30:24and there was actually
30:25a vote.
30:26So there was plenty
30:26of time to go with
30:28someone who doesn't
30:29have a Nazi tattoo,
30:30to your point.
30:31Like, they're making
30:32a choice.
30:33I think if this was
30:34someone with a KKK tattoo,
30:37the Democratic Party
30:38would not be embracing
30:39it the same way.
30:40This is a different
30:41Democratic Party
30:42and its relationship
30:43to Jews and Israel.
30:44It just is.
30:45And I think that
30:45they're willing to give up
30:47certain kinds of morals
30:48that they used to hold
30:49all because they've been
30:50deeply broken by the threat
30:52of Donald Trump
30:53in their eyes.
30:54This is not someone
30:55who's just deeply flawed.
30:56He has a Nazi tattoo.
30:58He has a Nazi tattoo.
30:59And I think that that
31:00goes far beyond
31:02someone who is
31:03simply flawed.
31:04None of this started
31:05during Donald Trump
31:06either.
31:07I think that when it comes
31:08to the sexting
31:09and whatnot,
31:10I don't think people
31:11care anymore.
31:12I think they should,
31:13but that's not a Trump thing.
31:15I seem to recall
31:15a certain president
31:16who was in the office
31:17who had sex with an
31:18The Democrats just got rid
31:19of Swalwell
31:19precisely because of
31:21the Democrats only...
31:22Hold on, hold on.
31:23I was wrong about Al Franken.
31:24By the way,
31:24Senator Franken,
31:25I was completely wrong
31:26about you.
31:26I jumped on this bandwagon
31:27that was a purity test.
31:28But Eric Swalwell
31:29is a good example of this.
31:30The story that came out
31:32was everyone knew.
31:33This was the quiet secret
31:35everyone knew.
31:35So they allowed it
31:36to continue
31:37for a very long time
31:38regardless of his
31:39potential victims.
31:41I think that's
31:41the real issue here.
31:43It is just beyond bizarre
31:45that the Democrats
31:46are still defending...
31:46But can you do me
31:47one favor and stop
31:48saying the Democrats?
31:50Because I recall...
31:50It is the Democrats
31:51in this case.
31:52You literally had
31:54an individual
31:55in the United States
31:56Congress sleep
31:57with an intern,
31:58destroy her life
31:59to the point
32:00where she committed suicide
32:01and set herself on fire.
32:02It wasn't an intern.
32:03It was a staffer.
32:04Excuse me.
32:05So like...
32:06It was a district...
32:07Anna Paulina.
32:07Anna Paulina was the one
32:09who was leading the charge
32:09to put him out of office.
32:11Back up real quick.
32:12What I'm saying to you...
32:13The guy's name was
32:14Tony Gonzalez from Texas.
32:15Republican from Texas.
32:17We have an issue
32:17in the American body politic.
32:20And it does not do its service
32:22to have this conversation
32:24if you're going to make it
32:25about partisanship
32:26because I can tell you
32:27that there are warts
32:28on both sides.
32:29For example,
32:30you want to talk
32:30about anti-Semitism?
32:31Did you hear Thomas Massey
32:33in his...
32:33Yeah, Thomas Massey
32:34is an anti-Semite.
32:35Did you hear that?
32:36I said that from the beginning.
32:37I said the same thing
32:38of Marjorie Taylor Greene.
32:38I'm not viewing it
32:40as political.
32:40I'm calling out
32:41the anti-Semitism
32:42when it exists.
32:43It believes that Jews
32:43control the weather
32:44from lasers.
32:45Which is why from the beginning
32:46I was someone
32:47who called her out.
32:48She has been suddenly embraced
32:49by some in left-wing media
32:51because she's suddenly
32:52anti-Donald Trump.
32:53My point to you
32:54is that this is a cancer
32:56that does not strictly
32:57affect the left arm
32:59or the right arm.
33:01100%.
33:01This is a cancer
33:02that has completely
33:03corroded our body.
33:04Let me let Bacia
33:05have a moment.
33:06Well, I'll just say
33:09my grandfather's
33:10whole family
33:10was murdered
33:11in the Sobibor concentration camp.
33:13Graham Plattner
33:14doesn't just have
33:15a Nazi tattoo.
33:16For 18 years
33:17he had a tattoo
33:18of the concentration camp guards
33:21on his chest
33:22and he knew what it was.
33:24He knew what it was.
33:26And to hear people
33:27compare that
33:28to anything else
33:30in the public sphere
33:32in America
33:32is insane.
33:33and it is insanely offensive.
33:36These people
33:37who are defending him
33:38called me
33:39and every other MAGA person
33:41a Nazi for 10 years
33:42because we voted
33:43for someone
33:44who we thought
33:44would improve
33:44the lives
33:45of working-class Americans.
33:46And now they are lining up
33:47and defending
33:48a guy who had
33:49a Nazi tattoo
33:50which he knew about
33:51for 18 years.
33:53It is so insane
33:56to act like
33:56anything Donald Trump did
33:58was anywhere close
34:00to having a Totten cup
34:01on his chest
34:03for 18 years.
34:05This guy is a Nazi
34:07and Democrats
34:07are lining up behind him
34:08because they think
34:09he can win.
34:10Well, Bhatia,
34:11let me, let me,
34:12when we talk about
34:13the depths of hell
34:13this is what I mean.
34:14People become desensitized
34:15to it
34:16because I take your point
34:16about Graham Plattner
34:17and his Nazi tattoo
34:18and how offensive that is.
34:20I can also tell you
34:21that when somebody says
34:22that with a woman
34:23all you have to do
34:24is grab her by the
34:25you-know-what, right?
34:26Talking about sexual assault
34:27as a husband,
34:28as a father,
34:28as those type of things,
34:29then that actually
34:30takes you to this point
34:31where I just say
34:32that the body politic
34:34as a whole,
34:34I'm not talking about
34:35Oppression Olympics.
34:36I'm not saying
34:37that this one is worse
34:37than this one
34:38or this person
34:38is worse than that person.
34:40What I am saying, though,
34:41is the body politic
34:42has become corrosive.
34:43And so, yes,
34:44I can call Graham Plattner
34:45a Nazi who does not
34:47deserve to be in office.
34:48I can also say
34:49that if you admit
34:50or talk about
34:51grabbing women
34:52by the vagina,
34:53you should not be
34:54president of the United States.
34:55I will say,
34:55I think we're all
34:57in agreeance here.
34:58I think that when it comes to
34:59we shouldn't be comparing
35:00like apples and oranges
35:02of this is worse than that.
35:04But at the end of the day,
35:06what the problem is
35:07and why Americans
35:08are so fed up
35:09with our politics
35:09is the hypocrisy
35:10because both sides
35:11are guilty of it,
35:13of making excuses
35:14for bad behavior
35:15from candidates
35:15on both sides.
35:16and I think,
35:17wait, let me finish my point.
35:18Let me finish my point.
35:19Batia, let me finish my point.
35:21Let me finish my point.
35:22I'm going to finish my point.
35:24I'm going to finish my point.
35:26But, Batia, let me let her finish.
35:29We could go all day
35:30and I could rattle off
35:30every bad thing
35:31that Trump has ever said
35:32or done
35:32and we could compare
35:33all these things.
35:34But what I'm trying to get
35:35at my main overall point
35:36is that we would all
35:37be a lot better off
35:38of instead of making excuses
35:40for candidates
35:41and excusing
35:42this type of behavior,
35:43whatever it is,
35:44from either side
35:45that we stopped
35:46constantly lowering the bar
35:47and we held them
35:48to a higher standard
35:49because I agree
35:50with Bakari's point
35:50that there is a level
35:52that we do, I think,
35:54need to see
35:54from our politicians.
35:55We want our children
35:57to look up to our president,
35:59to look up to our senators,
36:00our congressmen,
36:01our congresswomen
36:02and want them to be
36:03someone that they can
36:04look up to
36:05and inspire them
36:06and be a role model for them.
36:08And I don't think
36:09that we're seeing that,
36:10not just from Trump.
36:11I think that could apply
36:13to many politicians nowadays.
36:15We'll leave it there.
36:16Next for us,
36:17Trump commuted his sentence
36:18and now he is under
36:20legal scrutiny yet again,
36:21this time for insider trading.
36:23And George Santos
36:24is not the only person
36:26in trouble again
36:26after the president intervened.
36:36Tonight,
36:37former New York Congressman
36:38George Santos
36:39is once again
36:39making headlines.
36:41this time
36:41under federal scrutiny
36:43for suspicious activity
36:44on prediction markets.
36:45Santos,
36:46who went to prison last year
36:47on federal fraud charges,
36:49had a sentence
36:49commuted by Donald Trump
36:51after serving
36:51less than three months
36:52of a more than
36:53seven-year sentence.
36:55He joins a growing list
36:56of Trump allies
36:57who have found themselves
36:58back in legal trouble
36:59after receiving free passes
37:01from the president.
37:04Santos released a statement
37:05on X just now
37:06saying,
37:06to the hundreds of reporters
37:08calling me through the night,
37:09which I'm sure
37:09is his favorite thing.
37:10He says,
37:11stop.
37:12My legal team and I
37:13were made aware
37:14by a report from NPR yesterday
37:16that DOJ might be looking into me.
37:18So now my legal team
37:19is in contact with the DOJ
37:20to see what's going on.
37:21He says,
37:22the basis of this accusation
37:24is preposterous
37:25and I look forward
37:25to supplying any information
37:27asked of me
37:27to any agencies
37:29or inquiries
37:30until then,
37:31media,
37:32please do not inquire.
37:33I swear to God,
37:34this guy is like herpes.
37:35He goes dormant for a while
37:37and then he keeps coming back.
37:39That was a hell of an analogy.
37:40We just cannot get rid of him.
37:41That was a prompt-time analogy.
37:43It is.
37:43I mean,
37:43but the things that he will do
37:45for money, right?
37:47Allegedly.
37:48Well, no,
37:48some of them were not alleged.
37:49He was convicted
37:50of campaign fund misuse.
37:53Was that not what
37:54the conviction was for?
37:55And then there's the cameo stuff
37:57and now there's the,
37:58what's it called?
37:59Let's acknowledge,
38:00this one's funny.
38:02It is.
38:03It's funny.
38:03It's amusing.
38:04It's wrong.
38:05It highlights some of the problems
38:06with Calci
38:07and any of these
38:07online betting markets.
38:09Jason,
38:09there's professional athletes
38:11that have been indicted
38:12for pretty much
38:13that they actually vote for law.
38:14It is funny
38:15because it's worse than that.
38:16But it's illegal.
38:17I'm not saying it's not legal.
38:18It's also a pattern
38:19because not just
38:20for George Santos.
38:21It's not just a pattern
38:22of fraud for George Santos
38:23if it's true.
38:24It's also a pattern
38:25of Trump commuting sentences
38:27or pardoning people
38:28and then those people
38:28going on to re-offend.
38:30He said,
38:32literally,
38:32he pardoned someone
38:34two times
38:35and then they re-offended.
38:38A drug dealer
38:39who was sentenced,
38:40whose sentence was commuted,
38:42was found guilty
38:43of violating the terms
38:44of his release.
38:44Jared Kushner's friend
38:45who pleads guilty
38:47to stalking
38:48in a case involving
38:49his ex-wife
38:50after getting a Trump pardon
38:52and so on and so forth.
38:53So this is kind of
38:54happening a lot.
38:55They just arrested
38:56the guy,
38:57the soldier
38:58who was in the armed services
39:00who was part of
39:01the Maduro operation
39:02and used inside knowledge
39:04to gain these betting systems.
39:06I think that a lot
39:06of Americans are kind of,
39:08because George Santos
39:09is just something
39:09that we can laugh about
39:10because he is a unique character
39:13in American politics.
39:14But also,
39:15you know,
39:15you have people who've made,
39:16you see it every day,
39:17you see a news story
39:18about people who bet
39:19on the strikes in Iran,
39:21right?
39:21And how do they get
39:22that information?
39:23And all of a sudden,
39:23they make $600,000,
39:24$700,000
39:25on just betting on strikes
39:27because they have
39:27some proximity
39:28or some closeness
39:29to somebody over there.
39:30So it's something
39:30that they need
39:31to crack down on, sir.
39:31I will say, too,
39:32I mean, yes,
39:33George Santos is a joke
39:35and this is kind of funny
39:36to laugh at,
39:37thinking that he
39:38bet on Kalshi
39:39on something related
39:41to himself
39:41while being a
39:42polymarket spokesperson.
39:44But I do think that...
39:45That's so funny.
39:46Which is ridiculous.
39:47But what I will say is,
39:48I mean,
39:49this is the least
39:49surprising thing.
39:51Like, in other news,
39:52fork found in the kitchen.
39:53I mean, he is a crook.
39:55And so Trump should have
39:56never pardoned the guy
39:57in the first place.
39:57This was bound
39:58to happen again.
39:58He's just a fraudster.
40:00And I will say
40:02that Trump shouldn't
40:02have pardoned plenty
40:03of other people
40:04that he has given
40:05pardons to related
40:06to fraud.
40:07And there have been
40:07dozens in the second term.
40:09All right.
40:09Next for us,
40:10the panel is going
40:10to give us their
40:11Nightcaps Disclosure Edition.
40:13We'll be right back.
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