00:00Und look, es ist einfach extraordinary, 30, 35 million dollars, okay?
00:03In einem Primären wie dieses, man würde sich zählen, weil der Mann mit dem Präsidenten ist.
00:07Es ist einfach. Es ist unglaublich.
00:10Und alle hier mit mir.
00:11Lulu, ich meine, und zu dem extent, dass du bringst die Secretary von Defense,
00:15die, bei der Worte, die sich der Secretary des War, Thomas Massey, der sich der Secretary des War,
00:19zu machen, dass er mit dem Präsidenten ist, in viele Worte.
00:22In der Mitte der Worte, er geht zu Kentucky, zu Stumpen, auf der Ebene des Primären.
00:28Ja, und er hat nicht nur Stumpen, auf der Ebene des Primären.
00:32Er hat sich zu bestellen, zu bestellen, er hat sich in eine Ceremonie,
00:37wo die Leute re-enlistet sind.
00:38Es war all die Pomp und Ceremonie von der Secretary des Defenseen.
00:42Und dann, er hat das als eine Backdropen, zu gehen und dann campaignen gegen Thomas Massey.
00:47Ich meine, das ist unprecedented.
00:50Wir halten unsere Zivillen Heads der D.O.D. das für ein Grund.
00:55Sie müssen, in der Kapazität, als nonpartisan, als sie possibly können,
01:00denn being the head of the military is a sacred trust.
01:04Es ist nicht supposed to be political.
01:06So, der sehr Idee, dass er das in der Mitte der Worte, aber das in der Mitte der Worte,
01:09aber das in der Mitte der Worte, ist wirklich eine andere Norm,
01:12das hat sich komplett broken.
01:14Und Bakari, Sie haben die Worte, die Purple Hearts, die wir awarded.
01:20Aber es ist in der Kontext der Fakt, dass Trump, wenn es zu seiner base,
01:24das ist, was Jeff Zeleny gesagt,
01:25Leute sind zwischen einem congressmann sie lieben und einem president sie lieben.
01:29Look at Tennessee. Look at Cassidy.
01:31Wenn es zu diese primary Republican-on-Republican-violenz, Trump ist winning.
01:36Und das ist okay.
01:37Und ich denke, viele Democrats sagen, continue this,
01:39weil es ist apparent, dass die Republican Party ist sehr, sehr, sehr Donald Trump's party.
01:44Was Republicans in Washington, D.C. understand, however,
01:47is that his numbers are underwater.
01:48His approval rating is as low as it's ever been.
01:50The economy is not where he promised it would be.
01:53The cost of eggs, the cost of gas, all of those things,
01:57inflation, rising, people are seeing that.
01:59People were talking about America first,
02:01and we're at war on many different fronts.
02:04They're not understanding the reason why.
02:06You have slush funds, you have a lack of ethics.
02:08And the irony in this is that Thomas Massey
02:11is light years more conservative than Donald Trump.
02:14This isn't a question of whether or not there is a conservative member,
02:20a Reagan-type conservative, a George W. Bush-type conservative.
02:24This isn't that anymore.
02:25This is a conversation about someone who had a modicum of dignity
02:28and respect in Thomas Massey,
02:31somebody who had ethics and morals in Thomas Massey,
02:33and Donald Trump, who runs an operation of retribution.
02:37So, Gretchen, when Thomas Massey tells Jeff Zeleny
02:40they're fighting against him because they're panicked in the final hours,
02:44do you see that as sort of bluster in what you would say before an election,
02:47or do you think he says that's sort of bolstered by data and a feel?
02:51No, I think both sides are panicked.
02:53Let's be clear, Pete Hegseth,
02:54unless Kentucky polling show that suddenly he's like this important popular figure
02:59in the Republican side of things,
03:01I'm not sure why you would send him there
03:02other than Donald Trump believes that he looks telegenic,
03:05so he thinks that maybe voters will come out simply because of that,
03:08and that's what Donald Trump likes.
03:09That's the first thing.
03:10Second of all, I think Pete Hegseth is going to run for president,
03:12so I think that's the other reason that he's there.
03:15Number three, one of the most important things
03:18that's not being discussed here is that
03:20these primaries that Donald Trump has been victorious in
03:23over the last few weeks have been primary voters.
03:26These are diehard MAGA supporters,
03:28in many cases where independents are not allowed
03:31to vote in these primaries,
03:33where you have the majority of the American public
03:35sitting somewhere in the middle.
03:36But I do believe this is the most important election
03:40that we've seen over the last couple of weeks
03:42because Massey has been the biggest fighter against Trump,
03:45and I think that whoever wins this one,
03:48that's going to be a sign of what may be to come.
03:50I mean, can't we just...
03:52$35 million?
03:54Insane.
03:54On something that ordinarily would have had a zero next to it?
03:57I mean, the amount of money that is being dropped
04:00into these races is completely crazy.
04:02I mean, I have to tell you, if there is one thing
04:05that people tell me over and over again,
04:07regular people, is that they would like to see changed,
04:11is the amount of money that is being dropped in.
04:13And also, by just dark money,
04:16people who, you know, we're seeing that AIPAC dropping in money,
04:19all these different interest groups coming into these races
04:22and trying to influence them.
04:25And a lot of people look at this and say,
04:27is that democracy?
04:28Is that really what we are actually barreling towards
04:31when we have all this money coming into these races like that?
04:34AIPAC, of course, is Israeli, American-Israeli PAC.
04:38So, okay, you mentioned the slush fund.
04:40So just in the context of this,
04:42the fund that came out today,
04:44while Pete Hegseth is in Kentucky,
04:46is a $1.776 billion fund.
04:48Somehow, you know, 250th anniversary.
04:50I just wanted to put all the decimals there
04:51because I feel like it's important.
04:54Okay, so it's going to be going to people,
04:56January 6th rioters who were pardoned,
04:58even people like Trump, right?
04:59People that Trump says were just unfairly
05:00politically prosecuted by Biden.
05:02He could be in that list.
05:04And then he said this about it.
05:07It's been very well received, I have to tell you.
05:10I know very little about it.
05:11I wasn't involved in the whole creation of it
05:14and the negotiation.
05:16But this is reimbursing people
05:18that were horribly treated, horribly treated.
05:21It's anti-weaponization.
05:22They've been weaponized.
05:24They've been, in some cases, imprisoned wrongly.
05:27They paid legal fees that they didn't have.
05:29They've gone bankrupt.
05:30Their lives have been destroyed.
05:31And they turn out to be right.
05:34I mean...
05:35For someone who doesn't know much about it,
05:37he seems to have a pretty good read
05:38on where that money's going and to whom.
05:41The problem is that this is taxpayer dollars.
05:43This is going to people who we witnessed,
05:46assault police officers,
05:47who we witnessed run through the halls
05:49of the United States Congress with Confederate flags,
05:51who we witnessed put their feet up
05:53on Nancy Pelosi's desk
05:54while they were rummaging through it.
05:56I mean, even our new Homeland Security chief
06:00was hiding.
06:01They were chanting,
06:02kill the vice president
06:03of the United States of America.
06:05These are the people that...
06:07And the illegality of it is just...
06:10It makes your head hurt
06:11because Donald Trump and others
06:13knew they could not go through
06:14a normal legal process.
06:16They knew a judge would laugh them
06:18out of the courtroom.
06:19And so the party of law and order and justice
06:21had to circumvent justice
06:23so that they could create this,
06:25you know, insurrection,
06:26white supremacy reparations fund,
06:29which is a fascinating thing
06:30that people are going to sit back
06:31and be like,
06:31those are the dollars.
06:32And they call it the 1776 fund.
06:33I mean, that's the whole point, right?
06:34Is that that's what patriotism is,
06:36is that what they did on that day.
06:38I mean, I think that lesson is...
06:39And so many of those J-6ers
06:40have been accused
06:42and convicted of other crimes
06:44since they were pardoned.
06:45That's number one.
06:46Number two, Donald Trump is avenging
06:48all of this anger
06:49against his own enemies,
06:50so will there be now a slush fund
06:51for all of those people
06:53coming down the pike?
06:55And, and, and number three,
06:57the judge was going to rule
06:58on this lawsuit
06:59that he had against the IRS
07:00this week,
07:01and that's why you suddenly have
07:03now this settlement of sorts
07:05that comes out
07:05because they probably knew
07:06that the judge was not going
07:08to allow this case
07:09to go forward.
07:10But the real issue is
07:11we actually don't know
07:13who is entitled
07:14to this money
07:15because this is a completely
07:16made-up thing.
07:17This is something
07:18that has been completely invented
07:20because Donald Trump,
07:22you know,
07:22had this lawsuit
07:23for billions of dollars,
07:26unbelievable,
07:27unprecedented taxpayer money
07:28that was supposed
07:28to go into his pocket,
07:30and now this money
07:31is going to go to
07:32we don't know whom
07:33and who is going to oversee it
07:34and who has a say for that.
07:36I mean, it is,
07:37in every single way,
07:38something that is
07:41absolutely egregious.
07:42And yet, when that,
07:43the evangelical radio host,
07:45okay?
07:46It's hard to believe
07:47it would take two centuries
07:48for the Lord
07:48to raise up a great man
07:49to bring that ballroom
07:50finally to stand
07:51where it needs to stand.
07:53That was said in seriousness
07:55at the National Mall
07:56to MAGA supporters,
07:59obviously you're diehard
08:00if you're going
08:00to the National Mall,
08:01who cheered him.
08:03I've been at events
08:04with Eric Metaskus
08:05before over the years.
08:07He was the speaker there.
08:07Yeah, I mean,
08:08as a Christian,
08:09there's probably a lot
08:10that we agree upon
08:11however,
08:12there's nothing
08:13about building a ballroom
08:14that has anything
08:14to do with being a Christian.
08:16I mean,
08:17so we've seen this
08:18with this administration
08:18especially in the second term
08:21of this administration
08:22where they are confounding
08:25what religion really is
08:26with what the goals are
08:28and the ballroom
08:29has nothing to do
08:30with being a Christian.
08:30And you just hit
08:31the nail on the head.
08:32This was,
08:33I was going to chime in
08:34and say that
08:34what we're seeing right now
08:35is this collision
08:37between true Christianity
08:38and this Christian nationalism
08:40which are not the same thing.
08:43And when you get people
08:44who are idolizing
08:45and espousing these views
08:46about a billion dollar ballroom
08:48that has these gold emblems
08:50all on it
08:50while you have people
08:52who are black, white,
08:53Democrat, Republican,
08:54and others
08:54who have to make decisions
08:56about whether or not
08:56they get their prescription drugs
08:57or pay their utility bills
08:59who are really suffering
08:59and you turn a blind eye to that
09:01then you are seeing
09:02what Christian nationalism is.
09:05Franklin Graham was talking
09:06about the fact
09:06that this country
09:07is morally declining
09:09and I would agree with him.
09:11However, those calls
09:12are coming from inside the house.
09:13I mean, you have the tie back
09:15into what we just talked about.
09:17You have the president
09:17going after Thomas Massey
09:20because he wanted to release
09:21the Epstein files.
09:22This isn't Christianity.
09:23This is an abomination.
09:25This is Christian nationalism.
09:26And more Christian folks
09:27need to get out of church
09:28on Sundays
09:29and start talking about this
09:30on Monday through Saturday.
09:31All right.
09:32Thank you all very much.
09:33Yes, days I didn't think
09:35would happen
09:35where you'd have to be saying
09:36that building the ballroom
09:37isn't Christian,
09:40but okay.
09:41Thank you all very much.
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