Il coinvolgimento dell'eversione neofascista nella Strage di Bologna è stato accertato da sentenze definitive, ma restano ancora interrogativi sulle stragi e sugli omicidi tra la fine degli anni '80 e l'inizio dei '90. E se le piste nere fossero state due?
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00:00:17The Uno Bianca affair began in 1987 and ended in 1994 with the arrest
00:00:25of the six members of the gang, five of whom were serving police officers.
00:00:32The investigations were decimated by a series of impressive red herrings. In the trial
00:00:38the Uno Bianca has been defined as a story of murderous robbers, but the relatives
00:00:43some of the victims never believed the version of the Savi brothers and their accomplices, suspecting
00:00:49that the gang could have very high-level cover and was part of a new strategy
00:00:55of the tension after the black massacres of the 70s.
00:01:01Suddenly the number of murders, robberies and bloody incidents had taken on an exponential tone,
00:01:09that is to say Bologna had transformed itself into a sort of Bronx.
00:01:12They kill non-EU citizens, Roma, pensioners, but also members of the police force,
00:01:18with a violence bordering on human pity.
00:01:24I wanted to pay off my debts, I needed the money.
00:01:29Until 1991, their earnings were not much more than what each policeman earned.
00:01:35it could have been done with overtime.
00:01:39More than 30 years later, the investigative news is such
00:01:43to have induced the Bologna prosecutor's office to reopen the investigation.
00:01:47The gang killed 24 people and injured 103, right around the same time as the mafia massacres.
00:01:54Falcone, Borsellino, the bombings in Florence and Milan, the attacks in Rome.
00:01:59And just as a group of telephone operators who have remained in the shadows to this day
00:02:03he claimed responsibility for every murder, every massacre, in a statement,
00:02:08in the name of the mysterious acronym armed phalanx.
00:02:11In short, the Uno Bianca gang was perhaps part of a larger subversive plan.
00:02:16But with what objective?
00:02:18There is a robbery that is done in Rimini in 1988,
00:02:23one of the first robberies at the cops.
00:02:25On a Saturday afternoon, when obviously the copp is full of people,
00:02:31they enter, injure, kill the security guard, and also injure a little girl.
00:02:36And when they return home there is a testimony from Maria Angelini,
00:02:41who was Savi's wife at the time, and who is clear on this point.
00:02:45The robbery was unsuccessful, that is, they took nothing.
00:02:47And they were thrilled, they were so excited.
00:02:50The Uno Bianca gang revolved around the figure of its leader Roberto Savi,
00:02:56Bologna police officer and his brothers.
00:03:00Alberto was an officer at the Rimini police headquarters.
00:03:03Then there was Fabio.
00:03:05The three had backgrounds linked to the subversive right.
00:03:09Roberto Savi was part of the youth front,
00:03:12he had met a Nestore Crocesi, who later joined Ordine Nuovo.
00:03:18They have at their disposal high-powered weapons and above all training.
00:03:24which goes above and beyond the ordinary police force.
00:03:29A military training that belongs to those countries of the Atlantic Pact.
00:03:36Now the victims' families have filed a complaint that has reopened the investigation.
00:03:43Their idea is that the Uno Bianca, that gang, was not made up of simple criminals
00:03:50due to the disproportionate violence in actions that were certainly not for profit.
00:03:57For them, it is an extension of the strategy of tension that began with the bombings in Piazza Fontana.
00:04:04Then a disturbing coincidence.
00:04:06Claiming responsibility for some criminal operations by the gang with the acronym Falange Armata.
00:04:12The same one used for mafia massacres.
00:04:15Now, all this would justify those cover-ups and those diversions.
00:04:21which accompanied the gang's undisturbed action.
00:04:25From June 19, 1987 to November 21, 1994, the day of the gang's capture,
00:04:34103 criminal acts were committed, 24 people were killed,
00:04:39Ordinary people, immigrants, law enforcement, police, 102 people injured.
00:04:47Roberto Maroni, the former Minister of the Interior, who recently passed away on January 29, 1997,
00:04:55he stepped in as a witness in the Bologna trial of the 1st White gang,
00:05:01He said he did not consider it a coincidence that the criminals were arrested a few months later,
00:05:09who had replaced the chief of police, the head of the civilian secret services.
00:05:16Who is it that covered up and misled our attention about the actions of the armed gang?
00:05:23Paolo Mondani, with the collaboration of Roberto Persia.
00:05:30The gang included the assistant police chief Roberto Savi, Fabio Savi,
00:05:36the selected agents Alberto Savi, Luca Vallicelli and Pietro Gugliotta
00:05:40and Deputy Superintendent Marino Chipinti.
00:05:43Alberto Savi is now enjoying a semi-liberty regime,
00:05:46while only recently it was discovered that Pietro Gugliotta committed suicide last January.
00:05:53Roberto Savi confessed in 2022 to having placed some explosive devices
00:05:58already in the 70s on behalf of the far right.
00:06:01In the new Bologna investigation requested by the victims' families,
00:06:05the hypothesis is that the gang was not acting for money but for subversive purposes, using deadly weapons.
00:06:14They had a large supply of weapons,
00:06:18so we move from shotguns and revolvers to high-powered weapons.
00:06:23They used a particular module, sniper mammoth pirate.
00:06:27Sniper is the sniper who shoots sniper rifles.
00:06:31The role was taken over by Roberto Savi with the AR-70.
00:06:34The mammoth is identified with the subject who shoots with heavy weapons
00:06:41and we can identify him in Fabio Savi with Mr. Maurin.
00:06:45And then there's Paret, he's the one who goes to shoot the coup de grace to Alberto Savi with the
00:06:49its .38 caliber.
00:06:51This is a tactic that originated in the Anglo-Saxon military academies.
00:06:55and which is certainly not taught in any ordinary police force course.
00:07:00So the Wise Men are not thieves. And who are they then?
00:07:05The Wise Men behaved like terrorists.
00:07:08In total, six people were convicted in 1996 for the White Horn gang.
00:07:14In your opinion, were there other accomplices?
00:07:16That there were other accomplices is indicative in many cases.
00:07:20I'll give you two significant examples.
00:07:22The first concerns the assassination of the two carabinieri of Castelmaggiore in April 1988.
00:07:29The Carabinieri are stopped at a level crossing when they suddenly turn on the light on the car,
00:07:37they turn around and take off with a screech of tires.
00:07:40Where are they leaving for?
00:07:41They set out to reach the place where they will be massacred in an ambush by the Wise Men.
00:07:47The service order never came out,
00:07:50nor did it ever come out as someone who told them on the radio to change their itinerary,
00:07:59to go to that place and thus became an accomplice to this massacre.
00:08:03And this thing can only be within the Carabinieri branch of that place.
00:08:09The second piece of data is the Pilastro road.
00:08:16It is the evening of January 4, 1991, shortly before 10 pm.
00:08:21Three Carabinieri on patrol in the Pilastro neighborhood,
00:08:24Andrea Moneta, Mauro Mitilini and Otello Stefanini,
00:08:28who were just over 20 years old,
00:08:30they are killed by machine gun fire.
00:08:33Pilastro is a neighborhood in Bologna.
00:08:35There is a school in Romagna that hosts about a hundred non-EU citizens.
00:08:40The Bologna police headquarters has established the need for a permanent presence.
00:08:46So three carabinieri go and have the task of standing there in front.
00:08:52They are killed on a street that is elsewhere.
00:08:56Why did these Carabinieri move from their fixed post?
00:08:59But even here on a service order that is given to him, which disappears.
00:09:03Did the Savi brothers have puppeteers behind them?
00:09:07On this I would have no doubt that there were subversive threads.
00:09:12which gave some indications and above all provided coverage.
00:09:17After their arrest in 1994, the Savi brothers, in particular Roberto and Alberto,
00:09:22they speak to the judicial authority and say
00:09:25We were the ones responsible for everything that happened and that's it.
00:09:32It's also a way of saying don't go any further, don't look for other people.
00:09:37It's a guarantee for any accomplices.
00:09:40And then what happens?
00:09:41After a few years Alberto Sali reports contacts with Roberto Savi
00:09:46with members of the secret services and in relation to the Pillar massacre
00:09:51he reports that there was a directive from these services.
00:09:56Make a massacre.
00:09:57Yes.
00:10:00But the investigations did not follow this lead.
00:10:03Not even when Roberto Maroni, on January 29, 1997,
00:10:08intervened as a witness in the Bologna trial against the gang,
00:10:12declared that as Interior Minister of the Berlusconi government in 1994
00:10:16the capture of the Savi brothers was not accidental
00:10:20two months after the change of leadership of the SISD and the police.
00:10:24Carabinieri General Gaetano Marino had been appointed to the SISD
00:10:28in place of Domenico Salazar
00:10:30and in the police Fernando Masone had replaced Vincenzo Parisi.
00:10:35What and who had blocked the capture of the assassins until then?
00:10:40The former minister did not say this.
00:10:42But a year before Maroni's statements
00:10:45the Carabinieri ROS could have brought to light some of the puppeteers.
00:10:49Colonel Riccio remembers it well.
00:10:51Late February, early March 1996
00:10:56I received a phone call from a lawyer from Genoa
00:11:00who in detail tells me that one of his clients
00:11:05a former Carabinieri sergeant detained in Peschiera
00:11:10he had been in contact with Alberto Savi for months
00:11:13and had gained his trust.
00:11:17And the intention to collaborate with justice was maturing.
00:11:22He would have spoken of further murders committed and never brought to light
00:11:27he would have talked about deposits, weapons, trafficking that they had undertaken
00:11:32with Eastern Europe, even explosive orders
00:11:36and obviously he would have spoken of collusion with police circles
00:11:41and the secret services.
00:11:42He made a service report of this and delivered it to Cornello Mori
00:11:46who immediately showed immediate interest.
00:11:49And one Sunday, just returning from Sicily
00:11:52I find Major Ubbino at Ross.
00:11:56he was very happy, I found him quite euphoric
00:11:59and he suddenly confides in me that he was in Peschiera
00:12:04and of having met Alberto Savi.
00:12:07To the Peschiera prison?
00:12:08Yes, and he told me emphatically
00:12:09look, you'll tell me about officials colluding with them
00:12:13and especially he mentions the name of Arnardo La Barbera to me
00:12:16at which point I was a little shocked by the fact
00:12:21because I knew that La Barbera was a very good friend of Mario Mori
00:12:27In 1996 Arnardo La Barbera was the police commissioner of Palermo
00:12:31and had been a collaborator of the SISDE
00:12:33the civil secret service with the code name of Rutilius
00:12:37Subsequently, it was he who induced the false repentant Vincenzo Scarantino
00:12:42to mislead the investigation into the Via D'Amelio massacre
00:12:45and it was always him, according to the sentence of the Borsellino Quater trial
00:12:49protagonist of the disappearance of the magistrate's red diary
00:12:53At the end of 2023, the Caltanissetta prosecutor's office investigated La Barbera's daughter and wife.
00:12:59because they would have tried to get rid of the red diary that their father hid in the safe
00:13:04but all this has not found definitive confirmation
00:13:08In 1996, after Alberto Savi announced to the ROS that La Barbera was involved in the Uno Bianca affair
00:13:16the Bologna prosecutor's office could have started decisive investigations
00:13:20and instead
00:13:21In early July 1996 I received a phone call from Mori who told me
00:13:26Look, we have to go to Bologna the next day to be heard on the Savi affair.
00:13:32I arrive in Bologna and Mori is heard quickly and immediately after I am introduced
00:13:39what strikes me is that the inspector who was following my report on the computer
00:13:45every 5 minutes he got up and left the room
00:13:49gave me the clear impression that in fact I also left the door open and I looked
00:13:54that he would go and report what was happening in the room and most likely receive questions or instructions
00:14:00Outside the room where you were questioned by the Bologna prosecutor's office was Dr. Mazza.
00:14:05he was head of the Bologna mobile squad
00:14:07In that period if I don't connect badly yes
00:14:09Alberto Savi in the letter and also in the communications he had sent to the lawyer
00:14:16he recommended not to invest in his collaborative case at the Bologna police headquarters
00:14:23because there was collusion
00:14:27What do you think pushed the ROS of that period not to deal with Barbera?
00:14:34In my opinion there were directives that they had to follow so that this matter should not come to light.
00:14:41Directives from whom?
00:14:43General Subrani
00:14:44Subrani even when he went to the division always carried out a commori operation
00:14:49they were very close
00:14:50Subrani was an expression of another power
00:14:55both of a part of the general command and also of a political expression
00:15:00For example, he was a very good friend of the old minister Mannino
00:15:03Mannino, Cossiga, Berlusconi
00:15:07Colonel Riccio gives us something completely new
00:15:10In 1996 Alberto Savi wanted to put on record
00:15:14that the puppeteer of the Uno Bianca gang was Arnaldo Labarbera
00:15:20Riccio informed him but no legal proceedings were brought about there
00:15:26and then Arnaldo Labarbera at that time was the police commissioner of Palermo
00:15:32had collaborated with the cover name services at Rutilius
00:15:36he was the man who had triggered the first diversion on Via D'Amelio
00:15:42with the introduction of the fake collaborator Scarantino
00:15:47and according to Borsellino Quater he is involved in the disappearance of Borsellino's red diary
00:15:55In short, all these cover-ups ultimately led to the arrest of 58 innocent people.
00:16:03until the gang was arrested
00:16:06There is starting from the criminal campaign against the covers
00:16:11where Domenico Macauda had a role
00:16:14who is a Carabinieri officer from the Bologna operational unit
00:16:18arrived from Naples where he also attended the NATO base in Bagnoli
00:16:25Macauda is starting to mislead with the criminal campaign of the COP
00:16:30He manages a fake repentant Anna Maria Fontana to frame some criminals from Catania.
00:16:39and then Macauda was also at the centre of the cover-up of the Carabinieri murders
00:16:45Cataldo Stasi and Umberto Errio on April 20, 1988, in Castel Maggiore
00:16:51It was suspected that two carabinieri had information on the criminal activities of the Uno Bianca gang
00:16:59and on criminal activities against the covers
00:17:04but when we went to look for their service reports they had disappeared
00:17:09then in that story we were talking about the murder of a third person
00:17:13a third killer whose identity was never fully understood
00:17:17the question is who carried out this diversion?
00:17:20he was simply an accomplice or one of the perpetrators of that criminal action
00:17:26Macauda never provided convincing explanations regarding the cover-up
00:17:32then there is the cover-up of the Pilas massacre of January 4, 1991
00:17:36when three young carabinieri were assigned to a permanent garrison in front of the schools in Romagna
00:17:43then at a certain point they receive the call and the order to move to Via Casini
00:17:48where the massacre takes place
00:17:50It was never clear who ordered the move.
00:17:55The Sari brothers have always said that the murder was done to obtain weapons
00:18:00which had never been stolen
00:18:03There was a diversion here too
00:18:06a false repentant collaborator Simonetta Bersani
00:18:12which caused the arrest of the innocent
00:18:16some criminals who were in the Pilastro area
00:18:20to handle this false testimony
00:18:24some managers of the Digos of Bologna
00:18:27who then entered the top ranks of the military services of the SISMI
00:18:32the deception was discovered only when the Una Bianca gang had been arrested
00:18:38and then these red herrings were never investigated further
00:18:43also because they fell under the statute of limitations
00:18:46just as the statements of the other member of the gang were not investigated further
00:18:51Gugliotta who had reported that Roberto Sari
00:18:55he had told him that he had been contacted by a secret service unit
00:19:01to handle explosives
00:19:03he had also told of the existence of a hidden department of the services
00:19:09who made use of the assistance of legionaries and mercenaries
00:19:13These are disturbing statements also in light of a document
00:19:17which has recently been declassified
00:19:20which concerns a report by the SISMI
00:19:23of Vision 7
00:19:24the same one to which Gladio belonged
00:19:28where the use of mercenaries was discussed specifically
00:19:31and legionaries by the secret services
00:19:34for specific missions
00:19:36and then Alberto Sari had also revealed to his fellow prisoners
00:19:41of Santa Maria Capoavetere the relations with Mario Fabri
00:19:45SISDE director
00:19:46and he had also confessed that the real motive for the Pillar Massacre
00:19:53it was to raise the image of the Carabinieri
00:19:59who were in crisis at that time
00:20:01and on specific instructions from the secret services
00:20:05So, going back to Colonel Riccio's statements
00:20:11Why wasn't the relationship between Sari and Arnaldo Labarbera investigated?
00:20:21General Subrani and Mario Mori's roster
00:20:24in 1996 he did not want to understand if behind the Uno Bianca
00:20:28there really was the police commissioner Arnaldo Labarbera
00:20:31among others in 1993 Colonel Mori
00:20:35he had ended up under investigation
00:20:36for the failure to search Totò Riina's hideout
00:20:39and later with Major Mauro Binu
00:20:42he had ended up on trial for the failure to capture
00:20:45of the fugitive boss Bernardo Provenzano
00:20:48precisely on the basis of Colonel Riccio's statements
00:20:51who through his confidant Luigi Lardo
00:20:54had received a tip-off about a summit organized by Provenzano
00:20:58in the countryside of Mezzojuso in October 1995
00:21:01where Ross did not launch the blitz
00:21:06Subrani and Mori ended up on trial
00:21:08also for the so-called State-mafia negotiation
00:21:11in all these trials they were always acquitted
00:21:15but in the investigations into the negotiations
00:21:17Magistrate Nino Di Matteo had brought to light General Mori's past
00:21:22starting from his role in the SID
00:21:24the secret service of the early 70s
00:21:27the fact that Mori, then a young captain
00:21:31had been involved in the investigations of the Padua prosecutor's office
00:21:35in the so-called red wind survey
00:21:38regarding a hypothesis of his contacts
00:21:45with leading figures of the new order in Veneto
00:21:50the fact is that suddenly in 1975
00:21:57Mori was suddenly removed from the SID
00:22:02The Wind Rose was a paramilitary organization
00:22:05parallel to Gladio
00:22:06which included members of the secret services and neo-fascists
00:22:10he was the deputy head of the SID
00:22:12General Gianna Deglio Maletti
00:22:14to be removed from the secret service in 1975
00:22:18Captain Mori with orders to keep him away from the Rome headquarters
00:22:22Maletti, a former member of the P2 party, was convicted for obscuring the Piazza Fontana massacre.
00:22:28he passed away in 2021
00:22:30Shortly before, via email, he had explained to us the reason for that decision
00:22:34Captain Mori was suspected of having contacts with the far right subversive movement
00:22:39and therefore lost strength due to transfer
00:22:43His departure from Rome was linked precisely to the fact
00:22:47which then flowed from the Padua investigations
00:22:50in the investigations into the bourgeois coup
00:22:53Mori had been involved in some way
00:22:58Three years later, on March 11, 1978
00:23:02the general command of the Carabinieri
00:23:04he wanted to transfer Mario Mori to Rome
00:23:06but the then Colonel Parente of the SISMI
00:23:09he said no again
00:23:10Nevertheless
00:23:11He returned to the operational department in Rome
00:23:15right at the anti-crime section
00:23:17March 17th, then the next day
00:23:20to the kidnapping of the Honorable Aldo Moro
00:23:24During the trial on the State-Mafia negotiations
00:23:27Carabinieri Colonel Massimo Giraudo testifies
00:23:30which deposits the minutes of Major Mauro Venturi
00:23:34in the 70s
00:23:35colleague of Mario Mori at the SID
00:23:37From Venturi's statements
00:23:39something even more significant comes out
00:23:42a proselytizing activity of Mori
00:23:45for shared affiliations
00:23:49in a sort of reserved list
00:23:51of Licio Gelli's P2
00:23:55In the negotiation process
00:23:57it emerged that the top of the Carabinieri ROS
00:23:59had dealt with Cosa Nostra
00:24:01through Vito Ciancimino
00:24:03Christian Democrat politician
00:24:05linked to the top of the mafia
00:24:06Here's what Mori said to Ciancimino
00:24:09Mr. Ciancimino
00:24:10but what's this story here?
00:24:12Now there's a wall against a wall
00:24:13on one side there is Cosa Nostra
00:24:15on the other side there is the State
00:24:17but you can't talk to these people
00:24:20I threw it out there
00:24:21convinced that he says
00:24:23what does the colonel want from me?
00:24:25instead he says yes yes you can
00:24:28you could
00:24:29I am in a position to do it
00:24:31What is this head-on collision?
00:24:33You can't talk to these people
00:24:35What do these people want?
00:24:37to stop the massacres?
00:24:39This is in quotes
00:24:41that's how I thought it during the prosecution
00:24:44Mori's confession in quotation marks
00:24:48on the fact that a negotiation was started
00:24:50General Mori
00:24:51which essentially began his career
00:24:54as a representative of the services
00:24:56he continued it for a long time as a judicial police officer
00:25:00with command roles
00:25:01in a department of excellence such as the ROS
00:25:02and then finished it
00:25:04when he retired from the Carabinieri
00:25:07took over as director of the SISD
00:25:10then he returned to the services
00:25:12but he has always consistently maintained a good behavior
00:25:17which is more similar to that of an unscrupulous intelligence man
00:25:22than that of a judicial police officer
00:25:25that follows the rules of the code
00:25:30we repeat it
00:25:31General Mori has always been acquitted in his various proceedings
00:25:35but the Florence prosecutor's office from May 2024
00:25:38he is investigating him for the crimes of massacre
00:25:40mafia association
00:25:42and association for terrorist purposes
00:25:44Mori would not have prevented the massacres of '93
00:25:47even knowing in advance that they would happen
00:25:50and here we enter a story that has remained mysterious for 34 years
00:25:55at the center of which stands a former SISMI agent
00:25:58she wrote this book called The Intelligence of the Gods
00:26:03and says he was an agent of the Libyan secret service
00:26:07and of the Italian secret service SISMI
00:26:10who was arrested in Rimini at the end of August 1992
00:26:15with a briefcase containing a lead container
00:26:19inside 10 grams of uranium 238
00:26:22that is, nuclear material
00:26:23How did this story go?
00:26:25so I collaborated with SISMI
00:26:28I was a civilian, not a soldier, let's be clear
00:26:30when they arrested me there was a briefcase
00:26:32with samples of weapons of all types
00:26:35but he gave them to me
00:26:36it's not that I had it
00:26:37what was he selling?
00:26:39Kalashnikov, pistols
00:26:40red mercury from the former Soviet Union
00:26:44their intention was to make me turn
00:26:47find the buyer
00:26:50send the material to Italy
00:26:52if we could not operate
00:26:53and arrest everyone there
00:26:55the classic agent provocateur
00:26:57when she gets arrested
00:27:00in Rimini, at the prosecutor's office
00:27:02what's happening?
00:27:04they take me there for interrogation
00:27:06with Dr. Sapio
00:27:07the next day he tells me
00:27:08General Castellani landed
00:27:10with the C9 of the Italian Navy
00:27:12they closed themselves in the prosecutor's office
00:27:13they will put you on trial for directism
00:27:15maybe maybe let's say it's not mangurani
00:27:18maybe we'll get you a result
00:27:20he's a scammer
00:27:21as you can imagine
00:27:23our Baratiri is a quick guy
00:27:25so quick
00:27:26that in those years
00:27:27he was even in contact
00:27:28with a legend
00:27:29of the secret services
00:27:30Antonio Labruna
00:27:31Lord Fenner of the SID
00:27:33the secret service operating
00:27:35between 66 and 77
00:27:37the P2 member Labruna
00:27:39he knew about it
00:27:40of hidden collaborators
00:27:41of the secret service
00:27:42since he will recruit
00:27:44Gianfranco Ghiron
00:27:45brother of Giorgio
00:27:47Vito Ciancimino's lawyer
00:27:48both Ghiron
00:27:50linked to the secret agent
00:27:51Giancarlo Amici
00:27:53cover name
00:27:54by Mario Mori
00:27:55I who had the opportunity
00:27:57to read his report
00:28:00she had met
00:28:02years before
00:28:02a marshal
00:28:04by name Oronzi
00:28:09I read
00:28:10in his interrogation
00:28:11that I could see
00:28:12which was not called
00:28:13Paul Oronzi
00:28:14I am trying to say
00:28:14it's a cover name
00:28:15naturally
00:28:16she remembers it
00:28:17the name that emerges
00:28:18in his interrogation
00:28:19in short, in the gossip
00:28:20what have you done
00:28:21with the prosecutor
00:28:23I do not know
00:28:24maybe
00:28:25I tell myself
00:28:25Paul Bellini
00:28:26if I remember it
00:28:27Paul Bellini
00:28:28it was called
00:28:31Paul
00:28:31Bellini
00:28:32it was called
00:28:33the marshal
00:28:34the real name
00:28:35of the marshal
00:28:35it was Paolo Bellini
00:28:36Paul Bellini
00:28:38and he
00:28:39he had told her
00:28:39to call themselves
00:28:40Paul Bellini
00:28:41yes yes
00:28:42in what years
00:28:4389-92
00:28:4589-92
00:28:46I always
00:28:46always with him
00:28:47I have established relationships
00:28:49more
00:28:49in short it was him
00:28:50my interface
00:28:51with the earthquake
00:28:53Paolo Bellini
00:28:54of the earthquakes
00:28:55that he tells us about
00:28:56Baratiri
00:28:56it is perhaps a namesake
00:28:58by Paolo Bellini
00:28:59definitively sentenced
00:29:00for the Bologna massacre
00:29:01of August 2nd
00:29:02of 1980
00:29:03we don't know yet
00:29:05but we know
00:29:06that in the documents
00:29:07of the Florence prosecutor's office
00:29:08who is investigating
00:29:09General Mario Mori
00:29:10it was acquired
00:29:11this document
00:29:12of the department
00:29:13and version
00:29:14of the ROS
00:29:14of the Carabinieri
00:29:15dated September 3
00:29:161992
00:29:17in which
00:29:19recalling
00:29:20the Rimini investigation
00:29:21we come to the conclusion
00:29:22which is the alias
00:29:23of the marshal
00:29:24Paul Ronzi
00:29:25and Paolo Bellini
00:29:26in those years
00:29:27Bellini was already
00:29:28an art thief
00:29:29killer for
00:29:29national avant-garde
00:29:31and killer for
00:29:31a gang
00:29:32of the 'ndrangheta
00:29:33and yet ten years before
00:29:35shortly after
00:29:35the Bologna massacre
00:29:37had already emerged
00:29:38relationships between
00:29:39Bellini
00:29:39and secret services
00:29:40and according to Baratiri
00:29:42Bellini had
00:29:43even one of his superiors
00:29:44she had
00:29:45a relationship
00:29:47a relationship
00:29:47In short
00:29:48with
00:29:48another
00:29:49official
00:29:50of the earthquakes
00:29:50which was
00:29:51This
00:29:51Colonel
00:29:52cold water
00:29:53who was the center leader
00:29:54earthquakes in Bari
00:29:56this was the commander
00:29:58of the marshal
00:29:59the marshal
00:30:00he answered him
00:30:01Luigi Baratiri
00:30:03tells us
00:30:04a story
00:30:05unpublished
00:30:06remained hidden
00:30:07for 34 years
00:30:09a former agent
00:30:11of the earthquakes
00:30:12he was trafficking
00:30:13in arms
00:30:14explosives
00:30:15and in uranium
00:30:16enriched
00:30:17after the arrest
00:30:17he confesses to us
00:30:18of having been
00:30:19recruited
00:30:20from an agent
00:30:22of the earthquakes
00:30:23to do
00:30:24the agent provocateur
00:30:25the marshal
00:30:27Paul Oronzi
00:30:28he would have recruited him
00:30:30cover name
00:30:31of such
00:30:31Paul Bellini
00:30:33it's a case
00:30:33of homonymy
00:30:34or is it the same
00:30:35Paul Bellini
00:30:36which was
00:30:36convicted
00:30:37definitely
00:30:38to be one
00:30:39of the authors
00:30:40of the massacre
00:30:40from Bologna
00:30:42that Paolo Bellini
00:30:44whose presence
00:30:44it has been confirmed
00:30:46at a distance
00:30:4740 years old
00:30:48thanks to a video
00:30:49amateur
00:30:50of a tourist
00:30:51Switzerland
00:30:52who was present
00:30:53that day
00:30:53of the massacre
00:30:54in Bologna
00:30:55Paul Bellini
00:30:56he is an airman
00:30:57thief
00:30:59of works
00:30:59of art
00:31:00but it is above all
00:31:01killer
00:31:02of Drangheta
00:31:04and avant-garde
00:31:05national
00:31:06the prosecutor's office
00:31:07of Florence
00:31:08investigating the
00:31:09general
00:31:09Mario Mori
00:31:10and the massacres
00:31:11discovers a note
00:31:12of the department
00:31:13and version
00:31:14of the ROS
00:31:14dated
00:31:15September
00:31:16of 1992
00:31:18in which
00:31:19we're talking
00:31:20of a marshal
00:31:21Paul Oronzi
00:31:23cover name
00:31:24of such
00:31:25Paul Bellini
00:31:27and it's a document
00:31:28of the prosecution
00:31:30of Florence
00:31:31dated instead
00:31:312024
00:31:33emerge
00:31:34that Paolo Bellini
00:31:35it would be a point
00:31:36of reference
00:31:37of the earthquakes
00:31:39this is
00:31:40it's a fact
00:31:41Enough
00:31:41unsettling
00:31:43above all
00:31:43if we keep in mind
00:31:45an interception
00:31:46by Carlo Maria
00:31:47Maggi
00:31:47leader of order
00:31:48new
00:31:49of the Tri-Veneto
00:31:50that speaking
00:31:51of the massacre
00:31:52from Bologna
00:31:53talks about
00:31:54a life
00:31:54it's the Bellini
00:31:55pilot
00:31:57of which
00:31:57speaks
00:31:58Maggi
00:31:59and here
00:32:00the coincidences
00:32:01geographic
00:32:02of context
00:32:03with Mori
00:32:04they are disturbing
00:32:05why did he die?
00:32:06he was sent away
00:32:07in 1975
00:32:08from the SID
00:32:10why in an investigation
00:32:12of the prosecution
00:32:12of Padua
00:32:13on the Compass Rose
00:32:14an association
00:32:15which had a purpose
00:32:16subversive
00:32:17they had been
00:32:18found
00:32:19contacts
00:32:20too tight
00:32:20with
00:32:21the order
00:32:22new
00:32:23that order
00:32:24subversive
00:32:26and then
00:32:27Paul Bellini
00:32:28and Mori
00:32:29they meet again
00:32:30When
00:32:31when he died
00:32:31in 1991
00:32:32decides to infiltrate it
00:32:33within
00:32:34of Cosa Nostra
00:32:35to recover
00:32:36works
00:32:37of art
00:32:38but anyway
00:32:38he didn't recover any
00:32:40none
00:32:40nor did he have anyone arrested
00:32:42on the eve
00:32:43of the massacres
00:32:44men
00:32:44of Cosa Nostra
00:32:45to the point
00:32:46that that infiltration
00:32:47remained
00:32:48doubtful
00:32:49a doubt
00:32:50he also came
00:32:51to Antonino
00:32:51Joe
00:32:52the man
00:32:52which was
00:32:53one of the authors
00:32:54of the massacre
00:32:55of Capaci
00:32:55linked to Brusca
00:32:57that before
00:32:57commit suicide
00:32:58in a manner
00:32:59mysterious
00:33:00had reported
00:33:01That
00:33:02that infiltration
00:33:03by Bellini
00:33:05for him
00:33:05it was suspicious
00:33:06because he had
00:33:06really
00:33:07inspired
00:33:09those bombs
00:33:11harvest
00:33:11to the works
00:33:12of art
00:33:13of ours
00:33:13village
00:33:14In short
00:33:15but then
00:33:16in this regard
00:33:16to the new ones
00:33:17investigations
00:33:18another one emerges
00:33:19particular
00:33:20unsettling
00:33:21Paul Bellini
00:33:22in the days
00:33:23of the massacres
00:33:23it was probably
00:33:25in Sicily
00:33:26in Sicily
00:33:27like Stefano
00:33:28of the Chiaie
00:33:29that like Bellini
00:33:30belonged
00:33:31to the same
00:33:32organization
00:33:33subversive
00:33:34national avant-garde
00:33:35there is an important
00:33:37I think
00:33:38measure
00:33:38of the judiciary
00:33:39Florentine
00:33:40recent
00:33:41essentially
00:33:42it is written
00:33:44and documented
00:33:45citing various sources
00:33:47the fact
00:33:47that Paolo Bellini
00:33:48had relations
00:33:50with men
00:33:52of the center
00:33:53earthquakes
00:33:53from Bologna
00:33:54and so it was
00:33:55a contact person
00:33:56of some functional
00:33:57of the center
00:33:57earthquakes
00:33:58from Bologna
00:33:58the provision
00:34:00of the prosecution
00:34:01of Florence
00:34:02that he's talking about
00:34:02the lawyer
00:34:03Hopefuls
00:34:03It's July 16th
00:34:052024
00:34:05and then
00:34:07Bellini
00:34:07it had been a long time
00:34:08a reference
00:34:09of the earthquakes
00:34:10what if it was him
00:34:11the marshal
00:34:11indicated by Baratiri
00:34:13and from the department
00:34:13and version
00:34:14of the ROS
00:34:14the whole story
00:34:15of the massacres
00:34:16would change
00:34:17how is it possible
00:34:18Indeed
00:34:19that Mario Mori
00:34:20at the wheel
00:34:20of the ROS
00:34:21in 1992
00:34:22did not stop
00:34:23Bellini
00:34:24that he met
00:34:25in Sicily
00:34:25Nino Gioè
00:34:26key element
00:34:27of the fire group
00:34:28which blew up
00:34:29Giovanni Falcone
00:34:30the wife
00:34:31and his escort
00:34:32May 23rd
00:34:33in 92
00:34:35Bellini
00:34:35had started
00:34:36with Gioè
00:34:37a strange negotiation
00:34:38of which Mario Mori
00:34:39he was informed
00:34:40from the marshal
00:34:41of the carabinieri
00:34:42Storm
00:34:43who had
00:34:43Bellini in charge
00:34:45to recover
00:34:46in Sicily
00:34:46stolen works of art
00:34:48since
00:34:49the OK
00:34:50by Colonel Mori
00:34:52it had been given to me
00:34:52to infiltrate me
00:34:53what was I supposed to do?
00:34:54I?
00:34:55Say no?
00:34:58The mass murderer
00:34:59he did so
00:35:00the infiltrator
00:35:00on behalf
00:35:01of the ROS
00:35:01of the carabinieri
00:35:02and with the old
00:35:03friend Gioè
00:35:04Bellini
00:35:05a negotiation is enough
00:35:06the State
00:35:07he has one eye
00:35:08of respect
00:35:08towards some bosses
00:35:09in prison
00:35:10and in exchange
00:35:11the mafia
00:35:11it helps to recover
00:35:12some works
00:35:13of stolen art
00:35:14but the State
00:35:15he doesn't answer
00:35:16and for this
00:35:17Gioè
00:35:17he tells him
00:35:18threateningly
00:35:19what would you say?
00:35:20if one morning
00:35:21you woke up
00:35:21and it wasn't there
00:35:22more to the Leaning Tower of Pisa
00:35:23it seems to me
00:35:24that these were
00:35:24the real words
00:35:25Paul Bellini
00:35:26tale
00:35:27that the idea
00:35:28to plant the bombs
00:35:29to the heritage
00:35:29artistic
00:35:30he had listened to her
00:35:32by Nino Gioè
00:35:34actually
00:35:35in your
00:35:36reconstruction
00:35:37the situation is different
00:35:38from the sentences
00:35:40it emerges that
00:35:41this purpose
00:35:43was
00:35:44instilled
00:35:45in the bosom
00:35:46to Cosa Nostra
00:35:47right from
00:35:48Paul Bellini
00:35:52Therefore
00:35:53the fascist
00:35:53Bellini
00:35:54to destroy
00:35:55the group
00:35:55mass murderer
00:35:56of the Corleonesi
00:35:57and in the meantime
00:35:58baste
00:35:58the negotiation
00:35:59Gioè
00:36:00delivery
00:36:01to Bellini
00:36:01a ticket
00:36:02with 5 names
00:36:03of important
00:36:04boss in prison
00:36:05to be transferred
00:36:06in a structure
00:36:07healthcare
00:36:07and the marshal
00:36:08Storm
00:36:09in August
00:36:10of 1992
00:36:11had
00:36:12the ticket
00:36:13from Bellini
00:36:13he delivers it
00:36:14to the colonel
00:36:15Moors
00:36:15he said immediately
00:36:17we are talking
00:36:18of Gota
00:36:19and then
00:36:20In my opinion
00:36:21there is something
00:36:21of strange
00:36:22of Gota
00:36:23of Cosa Nostra
00:36:24she remembers
00:36:25of having said
00:36:25in Mori
00:36:26Colonel
00:36:27look into it carefully
00:36:28the reasons
00:36:29of the requests
00:36:31not with these words
00:36:33but if I were
00:36:34Mori state
00:36:35I would have gone into more detail
00:36:36the character
00:36:37what are you looking for?
00:36:38I had to understand
00:36:39What
00:36:40was looking for
00:36:45Cosa Nostra
00:36:46he was looking for
00:36:46to treat
00:36:47with the State
00:36:48through the general
00:36:49Mario Mori
00:36:50and we still don't know
00:36:51if that negotiation
00:36:52had different developments
00:36:54we only know
00:36:55that General Mori
00:36:56he did not keep
00:36:57the ticket
00:36:58with the names
00:36:58of the five bosses
00:36:59and that he did not report
00:37:00anything
00:37:01to the judicial authority
00:37:02we also know
00:37:04that the marshal
00:37:04Storm
00:37:05communicated to Mori
00:37:06the threat
00:37:07to blow up
00:37:07the Leaning Tower of Pisa
00:37:08but not even
00:37:09after that warning
00:37:10the carabinieri
00:37:11they were alarmed
00:37:12but today
00:37:14we know
00:37:14many other details
00:37:16of travels
00:37:16in Sicily
00:37:17by Bellini
00:37:18which began
00:37:19already in 1991
00:37:20right in Enna
00:37:21when Totorina
00:37:23and his
00:37:23they were planning
00:37:25the massacre campaign
00:37:26we get it
00:37:27from the ordinance
00:37:28of the judge
00:37:29Graziella Luparello
00:37:30with which
00:37:31last December 19th
00:37:32had rejected
00:37:33the request
00:37:34of the prosecution
00:37:35from Caltanissetta
00:37:36to archive
00:37:37the investigation
00:37:37on external principals
00:37:38of the massacre
00:37:39of Via D'Amelio
00:37:40against the ordinance
00:37:41the magistrates
00:37:42Nisseini
00:37:43led by
00:37:43Salvatore De Luca
00:37:44they had proposed
00:37:45appeal to the Supreme Court
00:37:47rejected though
00:37:48last April
00:37:49the prosecutor's office
00:37:50it was then
00:37:51forced
00:37:52to continue
00:37:52the investigations
00:37:53on the black slope
00:37:54behind the massacres
00:37:56the truth
00:37:58the truth
00:37:58which results
00:37:58from the file
00:38:00is that
00:38:00before
00:38:01with Nino Gioè
00:38:02Paul Bellini
00:38:03he returned to Sicily
00:38:04under the care
00:38:06of Cosa Nostra
00:38:07Catanese
00:38:08and it was
00:38:08really
00:38:09stopped
00:38:10November 27th
00:38:11of 1991
00:38:13own
00:38:14nearby
00:38:15of the house
00:38:16by Pietro Rampulla
00:38:17the bomb disposal expert
00:38:18convicted
00:38:18with sentence
00:38:19definitive
00:38:20of the massacre
00:38:20of Capace
00:38:24Peter Rampulla
00:38:25in his youth
00:38:26it had been
00:38:26in new order
00:38:27the organization
00:38:28right-wing subversive
00:38:30hero
00:38:30of the black massacres
00:38:31dissolved by decree
00:38:33in 1973
00:38:34Bellini
00:38:35he had come down to Sicily
00:38:37even in March
00:38:38of 92
00:38:38and in the period
00:38:40slightly earlier
00:38:41the massacre
00:38:41of Capace
00:38:42because intercepted
00:38:43from the prosecutor's office
00:38:44from Mantua
00:38:44was present
00:38:46between the 21st
00:38:47and May 25th
00:38:48and the judge
00:38:49Luparello
00:38:49he writes that
00:38:50Bellini
00:38:51mind
00:38:51when he doesn't remember
00:38:53where he was
00:38:53May 23rd
00:38:54the day
00:38:55of the massacre
00:38:55of Capace
00:38:56the certain thing
00:38:58that we
00:38:58we learn
00:38:59from the file
00:39:00of the prosecution
00:39:01from Mantua
00:39:02is that
00:39:03Paul Bellini
00:39:04he's coming back
00:39:05in Reggio Emilia
00:39:05May 25th
00:39:07coming from
00:39:08from southern Italy
00:39:09the doctor
00:39:10Luparello
00:39:11adds
00:39:11another fact
00:39:12particularly
00:39:13relevant
00:39:14there are even
00:39:15a few days
00:39:17previous ones
00:39:18to the massacre
00:39:19of Capace
00:39:19which demonstrate
00:39:21the presence
00:39:22in Sicily
00:39:23at the same time
00:39:25by Paolo Bellini
00:39:26in one way
00:39:27and of
00:39:29Stefano
00:39:30of the Chiaie
00:39:31boss
00:39:32of the organization
00:39:33neo-fascist
00:39:34of which
00:39:35he was a militant
00:39:35Paul Bellini
00:39:37the day
00:39:38of the attack
00:39:39on Capace
00:39:40two devices
00:39:41they flew over
00:39:41the area
00:39:42of the highway
00:39:43of one
00:39:44the judicial authority
00:39:45has ascertained
00:39:45All
00:39:46of the second
00:39:47Nothing
00:39:47the Jeep
00:39:48Luparello
00:39:49he imposed
00:39:49to the prosecutor's office
00:39:50to ascertain
00:39:51who he was
00:39:51the pilot
00:39:52and from where
00:39:53came
00:39:53that aircraft
00:39:54and to verify
00:39:55if that day
00:39:56the light aircraft
00:39:57of the center gladius
00:39:58from Trapani
00:39:58was operational
00:40:00like the knot
00:40:01Paul Bellini
00:40:02he was a pilot
00:40:04by plane
00:40:04in the process
00:40:05at your expense
00:40:06by Paolo Bellini
00:40:07the court
00:40:08of assizes
00:40:09from Bologna
00:40:10he reported
00:40:10as an element
00:40:11relevant
00:40:12at your expense
00:40:13by Bellini
00:40:13an interception
00:40:15in which
00:40:17Carlo Maria Maggi
00:40:19boss
00:40:20of order
00:40:20new
00:40:21of the Tri-Veneto
00:40:22right in the period
00:40:23of the strategy
00:40:24of tension
00:40:25of the massacre
00:40:25of Piazza Fontana
00:40:26wanted
00:40:27by order
00:40:28new
00:40:28of the Tri-Veneto
00:40:29referring to
00:40:31to the massacre
00:40:31at the station
00:40:32from Bologna
00:40:34he reported
00:40:35the involvement
00:40:36of a character
00:40:37indicated
00:40:38with the role
00:40:39of airman
00:40:41and that character
00:40:42according to the judges
00:40:43Bolognese
00:40:44it's just
00:40:44Paul Bellini
00:40:45in the ordinance
00:40:46of the judge
00:40:46Luparello
00:40:47it also emerges
00:40:48a subject
00:40:49that no one
00:40:51he knew about us
00:40:52is called
00:40:53Rocco Cordella
00:40:54the direction
00:40:54investigative
00:40:55anti-mafia
00:40:56he writes
00:40:56really
00:40:57That
00:40:58Rocco Cordella
00:41:00could be
00:41:01to have given
00:41:03let's say so
00:41:03shelter
00:41:04having hosted
00:41:05Paul Bellini
00:41:07after the massacre
00:41:08of Capaci
00:41:08even
00:41:09family members
00:41:11by Paolo Bellini
00:41:12heard
00:41:13from the authority
00:41:14judicial
00:41:14they reported
00:41:16That
00:41:16Rocco Cordella
00:41:18era
00:41:18the person
00:41:20of trust
00:41:20by Paolo Bellini
00:41:21to which
00:41:22Paul Bellini
00:41:24could
00:41:25to resort
00:41:26right in the moments
00:41:27in which
00:41:28he needed it
00:41:29Of
00:41:29to run away
00:41:31Of
00:41:31disappear
00:41:33from the
00:41:33circulation
00:41:36Good morning
00:41:36Greetings
00:41:38Good morning
00:41:38my name is
00:41:38Paul Mondain
00:41:39I am a journalist
00:41:40of the RAI
00:41:41and I want to talk
00:41:41by Paolo Bellini
00:41:42his old friend
00:41:49I knew the whole family
00:41:50all
00:41:51and why did you stay
00:41:53so tight
00:41:54so friend
00:41:55because the father
00:41:56he was a witness
00:41:57of ring
00:41:58then Aldo Bellini
00:41:59and Bellini's mother
00:42:00they came to do it
00:42:01the witness to her
00:42:02Exactly
00:42:03when did he realize
00:42:04he knew
00:42:05he read in the newspapers
00:42:06that Paolo Bellini
00:42:07he was in trouble
00:42:08from the point of view
00:42:08judicial
00:42:09because he
00:42:09he was arrested
00:42:11because he was an art thief
00:42:13then he became a killer
00:42:15but I didn't know that
00:42:17then the Bologna massacre
00:42:18well I want to say
00:42:19he was sentenced
00:42:22he was sentenced
00:42:23definitively
00:42:24he is now in prison
00:42:25Yes
00:42:26overall
00:42:27how many times will he have come
00:42:28two or three times
00:42:29he will have come
00:42:30two or three times
00:42:31I say it's not
00:42:32because by chance
00:42:33When
00:42:34he came here
00:42:35it was because he was a fugitive
00:42:37it's a bad thing
00:42:38but she didn't know anything about it
00:42:40I could have known
00:42:41there was a fugitive
00:42:42there is
00:42:42did he ever tell her
00:42:44what job did he do?
00:42:45him
00:42:47No
00:42:49but
00:42:50because I read
00:42:51that she was questioned
00:42:52let's say so
00:42:52Yes
00:42:53and he told her
00:42:54that he did
00:42:55he recovered works of art
00:42:56because he did the work
00:42:57ah yes yes
00:42:57works of art
00:42:58It is true
00:42:59she put it on record
00:43:00that she had known
00:43:01who had worked
00:43:02for the secret services
00:43:03No
00:43:04well, sorry about the report
00:43:06he said
00:43:07who worked
00:43:07for the State
00:43:08undercover
00:43:09no undercover
00:43:10and recovered works of art
00:43:13for the State
00:43:14in 92 there were the massacres
00:43:16first Falcone
00:43:17then Borsellino
00:43:18he was in Sicily
00:43:20often and willingly
00:43:20then he came back up
00:43:21and every now and then
00:43:22from what I understand
00:43:23he had stopped by her place
00:43:24she doesn't remember
00:43:25and he was coming
00:43:28he came
00:43:28it's not that he didn't come
00:43:32how many times Paolo Bellini
00:43:34he asked Rocco Cordella for shelter
00:43:36and after the Capaci massacre
00:43:38he passed by him
00:43:39if you wanted to
00:43:40investigations could ascertain this
00:43:42as they could delve deeper
00:43:44the role of an important
00:43:46steel entrepreneur from Modena
00:43:48owner of Cistelaier
00:43:50leading company in Europe
00:43:52of printed circuit boards
00:43:53Mr. Marcello Masi
00:43:55benefactor for years
00:43:57of the Bellini family
00:43:58Mr. Masi
00:44:00she in 2017
00:44:01he made work
00:44:02Paul Bellini
00:44:03the notorious mass murderer
00:44:04as a master pizza chef
00:44:06in one of his hotel restaurants
00:44:08It is true?
00:44:09he worked in my restaurant
00:44:11at the executive hotel
00:44:12from October 3, 2017
00:44:16as of February 28, 2018
00:44:19she took over
00:44:21both the wife's son
00:44:22by Paolo Bellini
00:44:23both the daughter
00:44:24by Lucia Bellini
00:44:26Paul's sister
00:44:27both the husband
00:44:28of the daughter
00:44:28so what?
00:44:29and then
00:44:30he knew what they were
00:44:32pending charges
00:44:33Paolo Bellini's penalties?
00:44:34No
00:44:34I didn't know anything
00:44:35Then
00:44:36I learned from the police
00:44:38from Fiorano
00:44:39which was supposed to report
00:44:41his presence
00:44:42daily
00:44:43and the marshal
00:44:44he told me
00:44:45for reasons
00:44:45that I can't
00:44:47confess
00:44:48but in 2017
00:44:49a lot was already known
00:44:50by Paolo Bellini
00:44:51as an art thief
00:44:52killer of the 'Ndrangheta
00:44:54and right in 2017
00:44:55coincidentally
00:44:56if the investigation is reopened
00:44:57on the Bologna massacre
00:44:58I didn't know anything
00:45:01let's do a little history
00:45:03way back in 1977
00:45:05Paul Bellini
00:45:06he returns from Brazil
00:45:07after a period
00:45:08of fugitive
00:45:09for attempted murder
00:45:10of a young entrepreneur
00:45:11and it settles
00:45:12in Foligno
00:45:13welcomed by the lawyer
00:45:14Stefano Menicacci
00:45:15that we know well
00:45:17as legal
00:45:17by Stefano Delle Chiaie
00:45:19together with Menicacci
00:45:21even the parliamentarians
00:45:22of the MSI
00:45:22Mariani and Cremisini
00:45:24they care about
00:45:24the fates
00:45:25of the fugitive
00:45:26Bellini has a passport
00:45:28Brazilian
00:45:28the false name
00:45:29by Roberto da Silva
00:45:30and a patent
00:45:31of pilot
00:45:32taken in the United States
00:45:34starting from Foligno
00:45:35at his side
00:45:36on board
00:45:37of a light aircraft
00:45:38it happened
00:45:38Ugo Sisti
00:45:39the prosecutor
00:45:40head of Bologna
00:45:41the first to investigate
00:45:42on the massacre
00:45:43Ugo Sisti
00:45:44he was a family friend
00:45:45of the Bellinis
00:45:46so much so that the night
00:45:47between August 3rd and 4th
00:45:49of 1980
00:45:50two days later
00:45:51the massacre
00:45:51at the station
00:45:52without warning
00:45:54no one in the prosecutor's office
00:45:55and without an escort
00:45:56Sixti
00:45:57he goes secretly
00:45:57at Mucciatella
00:45:58restaurant
00:45:59hotel then
00:46:00of the Bellini family
00:46:01the next day
00:46:02Sixti
00:46:03he got caught
00:46:03by chance
00:46:04from the police
00:46:05that they were looking for
00:46:05Paolo Bellini himself
00:46:07but look at that
00:46:08the black primola
00:46:09she had flown away
00:46:12Then she
00:46:13he founded
00:46:14a company
00:46:15what is called
00:46:15The Mucciatella
00:46:16which was exactly
00:46:18the name of the hotel
00:46:18of the father
00:46:19by Paolo Bellini
00:46:20Aldo Bellini
00:46:21The Mucciatella
00:46:22where they happened
00:46:23very strange things
00:46:24even serious ones
00:46:25in the following days
00:46:27the Bologna massacre
00:46:28of 1980
00:46:28she then
00:46:30he bought it
00:46:31The Mucciatella
00:46:31Aldo Bellini's hotel
00:46:33or not?
00:46:34I created the company
00:46:36how I make companies
00:46:37that I need
00:46:38etc.
00:46:39it's not that
00:46:39I have to give an explanation
00:46:41why I did it
00:46:42a company
00:46:43But she for years
00:46:44indeed for decades
00:46:46maintains
00:46:47the whole family
00:46:48by Paolo Bellini
00:46:49Why
00:46:51he has the same ideas
00:46:52right-wing?
00:46:53I have never
00:46:55made politics
00:46:56in my life
00:46:56I am known
00:46:58to be
00:46:59a self-taught person
00:47:00what he did
00:47:01the third year of middle school
00:47:02and that they are
00:47:03a man
00:47:04respected
00:47:05for what I've done
00:47:06in my life
00:47:07The Florence Prosecutor's Office
00:47:08investigating the Moors
00:47:09and the massacres
00:47:10has acquired
00:47:10a series of documents
00:47:12that they would try
00:47:13that Paolo Bellini
00:47:14he is a man
00:47:14in the availability
00:47:16of the earthquakes
00:47:18talk about him
00:47:19also Baratieri
00:47:21who is a trafficker
00:47:23of weapons
00:47:24of explosives
00:47:25arrested
00:47:26with in hand
00:47:26even a dose
00:47:28of uranium
00:47:28enriched
00:47:29to save him
00:47:31according to him
00:47:31it was the general
00:47:33Castellani
00:47:34that is gone
00:47:35to speak
00:47:35with the power of attorney
00:47:36from what emerges
00:47:37to us instead
00:47:38could be
00:47:39Andrea Castellano
00:47:41the boss
00:47:42of the first department
00:47:43operating
00:47:44of the earthquakes
00:47:45it would be
00:47:46if that's true
00:47:48of an operation
00:47:48cover
00:47:49of the service
00:47:50secret
00:47:50military
00:47:51Italian
00:47:51Now
00:47:52if Bellini
00:47:53he was a man
00:47:54of the State
00:47:55which was
00:47:56in the availability
00:47:57of Moors
00:47:58who infiltrated it
00:47:59within
00:48:00of the organization
00:48:01Cosa Nostra
00:48:02before the massacres
00:48:03why didn't he do it?
00:48:04nothing to stop
00:48:05those massacres
00:48:06also because
00:48:07Bellini had entered
00:48:08in contact
00:48:09with Antonino Gioè
00:48:11one of the executors
00:48:12of the massacre
00:48:13of Capaci
00:48:15and the role
00:48:15by Bellini
00:48:16which was
00:48:17then in the end
00:48:18that of prompter
00:48:19to suggest
00:48:20to plant the bombs
00:48:21to the heritage
00:48:21artistic
00:48:23of our country
00:48:25played a role
00:48:25similar to that
00:48:26of the massacre
00:48:27from Bologna
00:48:29now from the new ones
00:48:30investigations
00:48:30emerge
00:48:31that Paolo Bellini
00:48:32he was in Sicily
00:48:33like Stefano
00:48:34of the Chiaie
00:48:35both of
00:48:36Avant-garde
00:48:37National
00:48:38and Graziella
00:48:39Luparello
00:48:40the GIP
00:48:40who rejected
00:48:41for the second time
00:48:42the request for archiving
00:48:44of the prosecution
00:48:45Nissen
00:48:46that investigates
00:48:47on external principals
00:48:48to the massacres
00:48:49and which concerned
00:48:49the track itself
00:48:50black
00:48:51he doesn't believe
00:48:52to Bellini
00:48:52when he says
00:48:53that he didn't know
00:48:54he doesn't remember
00:48:55What
00:48:56did
00:48:57May 23rd
00:48:59because of this
00:48:59the Luparello
00:49:00he asked
00:49:00to the magistrates
00:49:01Nissenians
00:49:02to investigate
00:49:02who was the guide
00:49:04of the aircraft
00:49:04which flew over
00:49:06Palermo
00:49:06the highway
00:49:07of Capaci
00:49:10the day
00:49:10of the massacre
00:49:11then there is
00:49:12another one
00:49:13coincidence
00:49:14That
00:49:15Bellini
00:49:16as a young man
00:49:17When
00:49:17as a fugitive
00:49:19because he was wanted
00:49:20for an attempt
00:49:21homocide
00:49:22an entrepreneur
00:49:23from Reggio Emilia
00:49:24he had taken refuge
00:49:25in Brazil
00:49:26and he was back
00:49:27under a false name
00:49:28he had taken refuge
00:49:29in Foligno
00:49:30Where?
00:49:31from the lawyer
00:49:32Stefano Menicacci
00:49:33that is, from the lawyer
00:49:34by Stefano
00:49:35of the Chiaie
00:49:36Stefano Menicacci
00:49:37which had been
00:49:37intercepted
00:49:39after one of our episodes
00:49:40when we revealed
00:49:41the presence
00:49:42by Stefano
00:49:43of the Chiaie
00:49:43in Sicily
00:49:45who spoke
00:49:46with his driver
00:49:47and told him
00:49:47to deny
00:49:48absolutely
00:49:49that he had
00:49:50accompanied
00:49:51of the Chiaie
00:49:51in Sicily
00:49:53that driver
00:49:54era
00:49:55Domenico Romeo
00:49:56Brother
00:49:57of Mary
00:49:58Romeo
00:49:59the companion
00:50:00of the driver
00:50:01of the boss
00:50:02Mariano Tullio
00:50:03Troy
00:50:04that is, Alberto's
00:50:05Locicero
00:50:06the collaborator
00:50:07which had revealed
00:50:08to the police
00:50:09Before
00:50:09and to Borsellino
00:50:10Then
00:50:11and to Donaddio
00:50:12magistrate
00:50:13of the management
00:50:15national
00:50:15anti-mafia
00:50:16the presence
00:50:17by Stefano
00:50:18of the Chiaie
00:50:18in Capaci
00:50:19in the days
00:50:20propateric
00:50:21to the attack
00:50:25it was Giovanni Falcone
00:50:27to carry out
00:50:27first
00:50:28investigations
00:50:28on the black slope
00:50:29because it was
00:50:30realized
00:50:31that since the years
00:50:31seventy
00:50:32had been created
00:50:33a criminal alliance
00:50:35among the mafia
00:50:35Freemasonry
00:50:36diverted
00:50:37the right
00:50:38subversive
00:50:38to the services
00:50:39secrets
00:50:39alliance
00:50:41materialized
00:50:41in participation
00:50:42to the project
00:50:43of coup
00:50:43bourgeois
00:50:44and in the execution
00:50:45of murders
00:50:46politicians
00:50:47and massacres
00:50:47beyond the track
00:50:49Bellini
00:50:49the judge
00:50:50Luparello
00:50:51indicates a
00:50:51second runway
00:50:52black
00:50:53the one that concerns
00:50:54the statements
00:50:55by Alberto
00:50:55Locicero
00:50:56regarding the alleged
00:50:57involvement
00:50:58by Stefano
00:50:59of the Chiaie
00:51:00in the preparation
00:51:01of the massacre
00:51:01of Capaci
00:51:02Locicero
00:51:03he was the driver
00:51:04of the boss
00:51:04Mariano
00:51:05Tullio Troia
00:51:06said
00:51:06Umussolini
00:51:07and it began
00:51:08to collaborate
00:51:09with the carabinieri
00:51:10before the massacres
00:51:11it amazes
00:51:12that the prosecutor
00:51:13from Caltanissetta
00:51:14Salvatore De Luca
00:51:15in commission
00:51:16anti-mafia
00:51:17December 9th
00:51:18last
00:51:18he stated
00:51:19that Locicero
00:51:20he never spoke
00:51:21to the magistrates
00:51:22by Stefano
00:51:23of the Chiaie
00:51:25the track
00:51:26Locicero
00:51:27it's a trend
00:51:29which concerns
00:51:30the role
00:51:31of characters
00:51:33like Stefano
00:51:33of the Chiaie
00:51:34founder
00:51:36of the Avant-garde
00:51:36National
00:51:37connected
00:51:39to the services
00:51:39secrets
00:51:40man
00:51:41of the CIA
00:51:41how you lie
00:51:43very refined
00:51:44in the conception
00:51:46of the plan
00:51:47mass murderer
00:51:47of 1992
00:51:49and 1993
00:51:50there is evidence
00:51:51certain
00:51:52that Stefano
00:51:53of the Chiaie
00:51:54in the period
00:51:55of the massacres
00:51:55he came to Sicily
00:51:56and in Palermo
00:51:57the collaborator
00:51:58of justice
00:51:59Francesco Onorato
00:52:00who committed
00:52:02a Lima murder
00:52:03and that was being prepared
00:52:06to kill
00:52:06other politicians
00:52:07he recognized
00:52:09Stefano delle Chiaie
00:52:11as a person
00:52:12that he met
00:52:14the mafiosi
00:52:15in Palermo
00:52:21Shortly after
00:52:22death
00:52:22by Paolo Borsellino
00:52:23not seeing
00:52:24steps forward
00:52:25in the investigations
00:52:26follow
00:52:26to his revelations
00:52:27the Cicero
00:52:28send the girlfriend
00:52:30Maria Romeo
00:52:30to make statements
00:52:32to another department
00:52:33of the carabinieri
00:52:34and this is the note
00:52:35information
00:52:36sprung
00:52:37from that meeting
00:52:38dated
00:52:39October 5, 1992
00:52:40signed
00:52:42from the captain
00:52:42of the carabinieri
00:52:43Gianfranco Cavallo
00:52:44today general
00:52:45of the army corps
00:52:46and sent
00:52:47to the magistrates
00:52:48Aliquots
00:52:49Darkness and Celestials
00:52:50and to the officers
00:52:51of the carabinieri
00:52:52Borghini and Adinolfi
00:52:54it is read that
00:52:55in April 1992
00:52:56a month before
00:52:58of the Capaci massacre
00:52:59Stefano delle Chiaie
00:53:01accompanied
00:53:02from his lawyer
00:53:03Stefano Menicacci
00:53:04he made contact
00:53:05with the boss Troia
00:53:06and he would have spoken
00:53:08to go to Capaci
00:53:09to get
00:53:10explosive
00:53:10from the quarry
00:53:11of such Sanzana
00:53:12actually
00:53:13it was about
00:53:14of the quarry
00:53:15by Giuseppe Sensale
00:53:16that together
00:53:17to Antonino Troia
00:53:18relative of Mariano
00:53:19Tullio Troia
00:53:20they will be arrested
00:53:22for the massacre
00:53:23a year later
00:53:23the information
00:53:24Maria Romeo
00:53:25report
00:53:26to those policemen
00:53:29That
00:53:30of the Chiaie
00:53:30before the massacre
00:53:32of Capaci
00:53:33he had been in Palermo
00:53:34in the territory
00:53:35in which it was organized
00:53:37the massacre
00:53:37in which he came
00:53:38killed
00:53:39Giovanni Falcone
00:53:40let's try to
00:53:41take good care
00:53:42to one thing
00:53:43Maria Romeo
00:53:44it's not alone
00:53:45the companion
00:53:45by Alberto Locicero
00:53:46she's the sister
00:53:47of the driver
00:53:49by Delle Chiaie
00:53:50and of his
00:53:52principal
00:53:53collaborator
00:53:53political
00:53:54the lawyer
00:53:55Stefano
00:53:55Menicacci
00:53:58Locicero
00:53:59he talks about it
00:53:59with the magistrate
00:54:00Gianfranco Donadio
00:54:01that finds
00:54:02in the archive
00:54:02of the Management
00:54:03National
00:54:04Anti-Mafia
00:54:04the note
00:54:05information
00:54:05of the Captain
00:54:06Horse
00:54:07which was
00:54:07disappeared for years
00:54:09and June 5th
00:54:10of 2007
00:54:11Donadio
00:54:12interroga
00:54:12Alberto
00:54:13Locicero
00:54:13his is an interview
00:54:15investigative
00:54:16still under wraps
00:54:18but the report
00:54:18he received
00:54:19from an anonymous person
00:54:20the audio
00:54:21of that interrogation
00:54:22it was Troy
00:54:23that was going
00:54:23from Stefano
00:54:24Of the Chiaie
00:54:25No
00:54:26had met
00:54:27Meaning what
00:54:28That
00:54:28Stefano Delle Chiaie
00:54:30he was going to Troy
00:54:30At that time
00:54:31what did he say
00:54:32this Stefano
00:54:33Of the Chiaie
00:54:33of the strange
00:54:34what did he say
00:54:35of the wise
00:54:36I think that
00:54:37directly
00:54:38the hand came to him
00:54:39she came to him
00:54:40it was him
00:54:41that he put there
00:54:41in the head
00:54:42our thing
00:54:42the story
00:54:43of the strange
00:54:44Yes
00:54:44I also said
00:54:45if you remember now
00:54:46that I saw
00:54:47the machine
00:54:48and I saw
00:54:49more than once
00:54:50the water
00:54:50in Capaci
00:54:51from where it was
00:54:53the wise
00:54:54ah
00:54:54on the highway
00:54:55ninth
00:54:56on the post
00:54:57that was there too
00:54:58that person
00:54:59that he said
00:54:59which was
00:55:00another car
00:55:01Of the Chiaie
00:55:01ah
00:55:02that is, Delle Chiaie
00:55:03he went to see
00:55:04while they were putting
00:55:05the stuff
00:55:06the post
00:55:07he went to look
00:55:08but she saw it
00:55:09in the car
00:55:09Of the Chiaie
00:55:10it was an interrogation
00:55:11and how long
00:55:12they put us
00:55:12to do this excavation
00:55:13allow
00:55:14the strange
00:55:14No
00:55:14why the excavation
00:55:15it was already there
00:55:16there was the punishment
00:55:17It is true
00:55:17and that was
00:55:18one thing
00:55:19that was passing by
00:55:19I know
00:55:20Therefore
00:55:21the speech
00:55:22of Capaci
00:55:22he was brought
00:55:23from Delle Chiaie
00:55:25the speech
00:55:26to do
00:55:26the tent
00:55:27but she is a
00:55:27which was brought
00:55:28of politics
00:55:29to the last piece
00:55:30he did it
00:55:30Of the Chiaie
00:55:31to the last piece
00:55:32Yes
00:55:33May 10th
00:55:35May 10, 2007
00:55:36the magistrate
00:55:36Gianfranco Donaddio
00:55:38hears on record
00:55:38the girlfriend
00:55:39by Locicero
00:55:40Maria Romeo
00:55:41sister
00:55:42of the driver
00:55:43by Delle Chiaie
00:55:43Domenico Romeo
00:55:45Now
00:55:46in the relationship
00:55:46of service
00:55:47it is read
00:55:47that in 92
00:55:49Of the Chiaie
00:55:50he went
00:55:51in Palermo
00:55:52and made contact
00:55:53against AI
00:55:53boss of Cruvillas
00:55:54Yes
00:55:57he met
00:55:58never again
00:55:59no no no
00:56:00Purse
00:56:00Yes
00:56:01Purse
00:56:02I spoke to him
00:56:02just once
00:56:03where he spoke to him
00:56:04to the court
00:56:05while Alberto
00:56:05he was being questioned
00:56:06with Vittorio Torese
00:56:08she spoke
00:56:09with Borsellino
00:56:10Yes
00:56:10I met her
00:56:11and what he said
00:56:11Purse
00:56:12no but first
00:56:12he told me
00:56:13what was I doing there?
00:56:14and then he showed up
00:56:15who was
00:56:16no but him
00:56:17then he entered
00:56:17to listen to Alberto
00:56:18no Alberto
00:56:20he spoke
00:56:20several times
00:56:21with Borsellino
00:56:26the prosecutor's office
00:56:28from Caltanissetta
00:56:29he never believed
00:56:29to Maria Romeo
00:56:30about the meeting
00:56:31between the confidant
00:56:32Locicero
00:56:33and Paolo Borsellino
00:56:34of a different opinion
00:56:36it is instead
00:56:36Gianfranco Donadio
00:56:37Alberto Locicero
00:56:39from my point of view
00:56:43encounter
00:56:44Paolo Borsellino
00:56:46what credibility
00:56:48attributed
00:56:48Paolo Borsellino
00:56:49to the track
00:56:50Locicero?
00:56:51Paolo Borsellino
00:56:53given such relevance
00:56:55to the information
00:56:56Locicero
00:56:57which asked
00:56:59got
00:57:00that it was organized
00:57:01a meeting
00:57:02between the prosecution
00:57:04from Caltanissetta
00:57:05who was competent
00:57:06for the massacre
00:57:06of Capaci
00:57:07and the prosecutor's office
00:57:08from Palermo
00:57:09exclusively
00:57:10having object
00:57:12the information
00:57:13that Locicero
00:57:14had provided
00:57:15on the massacre
00:57:16of Capaci
00:57:17this is documentary
00:57:19there is a meeting
00:57:20of June 15th
00:57:21of 92
00:57:22with a report
00:57:23but the thing
00:57:24which makes you think even more
00:57:25is that too
00:57:26it is documented
00:57:27which he left
00:57:29a provision
00:57:30strange
00:57:31apparently
00:57:32he left a message
00:57:34that when
00:57:35Locicero
00:57:35had started
00:57:37to collaborate
00:57:38Before
00:57:39that he felt it
00:57:40the prosecutor's office
00:57:40from Caltanissetta
00:57:41he had to hear it himself
00:57:42which is strange
00:57:43why the prosecution
00:57:45from Caltanissetta
00:57:45he was competent
00:57:46for the massacre
00:57:47and has only one
00:57:47explanation
00:57:48In my opinion
00:57:49that is, that
00:57:50what does he tell us?
00:57:51Maria Romeo
00:57:52and others
00:57:53that is, that Locicero
00:57:54he trusted
00:57:54only
00:57:55by Paolo Borsellino
00:57:56and he had done
00:57:58a pact
00:57:58with him
00:57:58I will speak
00:58:00by Stefano
00:58:01of the Chiaia
00:58:02and other things
00:58:03only with her
00:58:04and Borsellino
00:58:05he had fixed
00:58:07the interrogation
00:58:08by Locicero
00:58:09for July 24th
00:58:11but it didn't arrive
00:58:12to put
00:58:13on record
00:58:14the revelation
00:58:15that Locicero
00:58:16he had reserved himself
00:58:17to do
00:58:17only
00:58:18to him
00:58:19the definitive proof
00:58:21of all this
00:58:22he gives it to us
00:58:22an old man
00:58:22minutes
00:58:23forgotten
00:58:24It's December 7th
00:58:25of 1992
00:58:26and the court
00:58:28from Caltanissetta
00:58:29hear the magistrate
00:58:30Vittorio Teresi
00:58:31which had been
00:58:32next to Borsellino
00:58:33in 57 days
00:58:35between Capable
00:58:36and Via D'Amelio
00:58:36Teresi declares
00:58:38after the murder
00:58:39by Giovanni Falcone
00:58:40I was taking care of
00:58:41a collaborator
00:58:42of justice
00:58:43which he was reporting
00:58:44or could report
00:58:45extremely facts
00:58:46interesting
00:58:47which concerned
00:58:48the territory
00:58:49from Palermo
00:58:49Paolo Borsellino
00:58:51it was particularly
00:58:52interested
00:58:53to possible developments
00:58:54of this investigation of mine
00:58:55also for the relevance
00:58:56which he believed
00:58:57could have
00:58:58for a better
00:58:59comprehension
00:59:00of the massacre
00:59:01of Capaci
00:59:01and he wanted me to
00:59:02I kept it
00:59:03assiduously informed
00:59:05the collaborator
00:59:06it was Alberto Locicero
00:59:07and Vittorio Teresi
00:59:08he says something
00:59:09again
00:59:10to us too
00:59:10about the meeting
00:59:11what a Borsellino
00:59:12had with him
00:59:13which he does not believe in
00:59:14the Caltanissetta prosecutor's office
00:59:17Paul
00:59:18somehow
00:59:19will have been urged
00:59:21from the facts
00:59:22from me too
00:59:22referred to
00:59:23at the meeting
00:59:24of June
00:59:24and from that end
00:59:27interpreter
00:59:28which was
00:59:29he immediately
00:59:30perceived
00:59:31the importance
00:59:32of those statements
00:59:33or the importance
00:59:34of the character
00:59:35that could have
00:59:36give him information
00:59:37precise
00:59:38or in any case indicative
00:59:39on Capaci
00:59:40and then
00:59:41he chose
00:59:42to meet him
00:59:43how to say
00:59:44off records
00:59:46he thinks it is possible
00:59:47Therefore
00:59:47that meeting?
00:59:49I think it's possible
00:59:50Yes
00:59:50July 24th
00:59:53Locicero
00:59:54is heard
00:59:54for the first time
00:59:55from her too
00:59:57and by Vittorio Aliquo
00:59:58as officially
00:59:59at that point
01:00:00justice collaborator
01:00:01I wonder
01:00:03but
01:00:03since it is plausible
01:00:04Therefore
01:00:05what a Borsellino
01:00:06have met
01:00:06Locicero
01:00:07he knew about this story
01:00:08by Locicero
01:00:09had already prepared
01:00:10something
01:00:11for the purposes
01:00:11of that interrogation
01:00:12with Locicero?
01:00:13Yes
01:00:14I think he has
01:00:15somehow
01:00:16in his head
01:00:17prepared
01:00:18a plan
01:00:19of hearing
01:00:19by Locicero
01:00:20the prosecutor's office
01:00:22from Caltanissetta
01:00:23that he wanted
01:00:24to archive
01:00:25the black slope
01:00:25one must follow
01:00:26two
01:00:27I had
01:00:28place
01:00:29request
01:00:30of archiving
01:00:31she opposed
01:00:32the GIP
01:00:33Graziella
01:00:34Luparello
01:00:35to this opposition
01:00:36the prosecutor's office
01:00:37from Caltanissetta
01:00:38he appealed
01:00:39in Cassation
01:00:40judging her
01:00:41abnormal
01:00:42but the Court of Cassation
01:00:43he proved right
01:00:44at Luparello
01:00:45April 21st
01:00:46last
01:00:47now the prosecution
01:00:48must investigate
01:00:50out of 43
01:00:50new
01:00:51slopes
01:00:52new investigations
01:00:53in particular
01:00:54on the disappearance
01:00:55of the famous
01:00:56Note
01:00:56Horse
01:00:57in which we spoke
01:00:58of the presence
01:00:59by Stefano
01:00:59Dellechiaie
01:01:00in Capaci
01:01:01in search
01:01:02Also
01:01:02of the explosive
01:01:03with the lawyer
01:01:04Stefano
01:01:05Menicacci
01:01:06they must also
01:01:07look for
01:01:07the relationship
01:01:08disappeared
01:01:09of the carabiniere
01:01:10Walter Giustini
01:01:11in which we spoke
01:01:12of the presence
01:01:13by Stefano
01:01:13Dellechiaie
01:01:14in Sicily
01:01:15there were also
01:01:15some photos
01:01:16trying
01:01:17his journey
01:01:19on the island
01:01:20and then
01:01:21the Luparello
01:01:22also asks
01:01:23to investigate
01:01:25on why
01:01:25in the note
01:01:26presented
01:01:26from the police station
01:01:27signature
01:01:27The Barbera
01:01:29was omitted
01:01:30the census
01:01:31by Stefano
01:01:32Dellechiaie
01:01:33in Sicily
01:01:34the 21st
01:01:35December
01:01:36of 91
01:01:37all anomalies
01:01:38he writes
01:01:39the Luparello
01:01:40above all
01:01:41disturbing
01:01:42if read
01:01:44in correlation
01:01:45with the attempt
01:01:46of subjects
01:01:47very close
01:01:48in Dellechiaie
01:01:49he writes
01:01:49the Luparello
01:01:50to hide
01:01:50the circumstance
01:01:51of the trips
01:01:53of the terrorist
01:01:54in Sicily
01:01:55and does
01:01:55reference
01:01:56to the episode
01:01:58by Report
01:01:59of May
01:02:00of 2022
01:02:01of that
01:02:02what happened
01:02:02After
01:02:03When
01:02:03the lawyer
01:02:04Stefano
01:02:04Menicacci
01:02:05is intercepted
01:02:06while he speaks
01:02:07with his
01:02:08driver
01:02:09Dominic
01:02:10Romeo
01:02:11and essentially
01:02:12he asks him
01:02:13not to reveal
01:02:14the trips
01:02:15in Sicily
01:02:15facts
01:02:16with Stefano
01:02:17Dellechiaie
01:02:18here's a fact
01:02:19judged very serious
01:02:20even from the lawyer
01:02:21Ligotti
01:02:22who presented
01:02:23really
01:02:24a complaint
01:02:26to the CSM
01:02:27which involves
01:02:28the prosecutor himself
01:02:30Nisseno
01:02:30De Luca
01:02:31guilty
01:02:32according to Ligotti
01:02:33of having remained silent
01:02:34these circumstances
01:02:35in the numerous
01:02:36auditions
01:02:37in commission
01:02:37anti-mafia
01:02:38while attacking
01:02:40who was speaking
01:02:41of the black slope
01:02:41he omitted to say
01:02:43that there were
01:02:43these interceptions
01:02:45really
01:02:45That
01:02:47it had been
01:02:48sent for trial
01:02:49both Menicacci
01:02:50before his
01:02:51death
01:02:51that Domenico
01:02:52Romeo
01:02:53for having given
01:02:54false testimony
01:02:55to the PM
01:02:56that is, to have denied
01:02:57the presence
01:02:58by Stefano
01:02:58Dellechiaia
01:02:59really
01:03:00Ligotti
01:03:01in his statement
01:03:05announces
01:03:06the suspicion
01:03:07to have facilitated
01:03:08our thing
01:03:09of having prevented
01:03:11the development
01:03:11of the investigations
01:03:12on relationships
01:03:13between the mafia
01:03:14and exponents
01:03:15of the extreme
01:03:15right
01:03:16in the period
01:03:17antecedent
01:03:17and coeval
01:03:18massacres
01:03:18of 92
01:03:19so something else
01:03:20what a mood
01:03:21filter
01:03:21the track
01:03:22black
01:03:23then there are
01:03:23the dialogues
01:03:25investigative
01:03:25interviews
01:03:26investigative
01:03:27with the magistrate
01:03:28not goodbye
01:03:28at the management
01:03:29National Anti-Mafia
01:03:30by Maria Romeo
01:03:32and of the same
01:03:33the Cicero
01:03:33who speak
01:03:34of the presence
01:03:34by Dellechiaie
01:03:35in the area
01:03:36of Capaci
01:03:37and near the
01:03:37Tunnel
01:03:38where it was placed
01:03:39the explosive
01:03:40and then
01:03:41a report
01:03:41incredible
01:03:42which he found
01:03:43our
01:03:43Paul
01:03:44Bondani
01:03:45by Vittorio Teresi
01:03:46right arm
01:03:47by Borsellino
01:03:49that on December 7th
01:03:50of 1992
01:03:51in front of the court
01:03:52from Caltanissetta
01:03:53he declared
01:03:54after the murder
01:03:55by Giovanni Falcone
01:03:57I was taking care of
01:03:58a collaborator
01:03:59of justice
01:03:59which he was reporting
01:04:01of facts
01:04:02extremely interesting
01:04:03which concerned
01:04:04the territory
01:04:05from Palermo
01:04:06Paolo Borsellino
01:04:07era
01:04:08Teresi writes
01:04:09particularly
01:04:10interested
01:04:11to possible developments
01:04:12of this investigation of mine
01:04:13also for the
01:04:14relevance
01:04:15that he
01:04:16he thought they could have
01:04:18for a better
01:04:18comprehension
01:04:19of the massacre
01:04:20of Capaci
01:04:21and he wanted me to
01:04:23I kept it
01:04:24constantly
01:04:25informed
01:04:26Here you are
01:04:26that collaborator
01:04:28who managed Teresi
01:04:29it was Alberto
01:04:30Locicero
01:04:31that would have
01:04:32already spoken
01:04:34he had already spoken
01:04:35with Borsellino
01:04:36but what would he have
01:04:36had to meet him again
01:04:38July 24th
01:04:40but the TNT
01:04:41it has arrived
01:04:42Before
01:04:42July 19th
01:04:43on the way
01:04:44D'Amelio
01:04:45but for the magistrates
01:04:46from Caltanissetta
01:04:47the only one
01:04:48dying
01:04:49of the massacre
01:04:50of Via D'Amelio
01:04:51it's the relationship
01:04:53mafia-procurement
01:05:02At that time
01:05:03according to the prosecution
01:05:04from Caltanissetta
01:05:05the dying man
01:05:06of the massacre
01:05:07of Via D'Amelio
01:05:08it would have been
01:05:09the relationship
01:05:10mafia-procurement
01:05:11that's what it is too
01:05:12above all
01:05:12they think
01:05:13the colonel
01:05:14Moors
01:05:14his deputy
01:05:15De Donno
01:05:15that that relationship
01:05:16they prepared it
01:05:18Here you are
01:05:19according to their
01:05:20idea
01:05:20it was the fact
01:05:21that this relationship
01:05:23who had
01:05:23started
01:05:24Tangentopoli
01:05:25in Sicilian sauce
01:05:26with entrepreneurs
01:05:27politicians
01:05:28and mafiosi
01:05:29had been
01:05:30archived
01:05:31a few days
01:05:32Before
01:05:32of the attack
01:05:33had launched
01:05:34a signal
01:05:36had contributed
01:05:37to that isolation
01:05:39of the magistrate
01:05:39Paolo Borsellino
01:05:41that was said
01:05:42contrary to that
01:05:43archiving
01:05:45isolating it
01:05:46and exposing it
01:05:48like an easy
01:05:48objective
01:05:49of the mafia
01:05:51Now
01:05:51what is the real story
01:05:52of the relationship
01:05:53mafia-procurement
01:05:55we'll tell you about it
01:05:56this evening
01:05:57It is true
01:05:57that on July 13th
01:05:58the magistrates
01:05:59the strong scarpinato
01:06:00they archived
01:06:02but only a part
01:06:03of that relationship
01:06:05because they also asked
01:06:06of the arrests
01:06:07but above all
01:06:08they asked to investigate further
01:06:10a track
01:06:11that will explode
01:06:12a few months later
01:06:13April 14th
01:06:16of 2026
01:06:17the prosecutor
01:06:18from Caltanissetta
01:06:19Salvatore De Luca
01:06:20intervenes
01:06:21to the commission
01:06:22parliamentarian
01:06:22anti-mafia
01:06:23I speak on behalf of
01:06:25of the group
01:06:26Caltanissetta massacres
01:06:27That
01:06:29there are
01:06:31of the concrete
01:06:33univocal
01:06:34multiple
01:06:35elements
01:06:36to affirm
01:06:37That
01:06:38the management
01:06:39of the procedure
01:06:42mafia-procurement
01:06:43and in reality
01:06:45the theme
01:06:46mafia-procurement
01:06:47it was
01:06:48a safe one
01:06:49cause
01:06:50of the massacre
01:06:52of Via D'Amelio
01:06:54the judge
01:06:55from Caltanissetta
01:06:57Luparello
01:06:57he gave you
01:06:59radically
01:07:00wrong
01:07:00Why
01:07:02he thought
01:07:04and he wrote
01:07:05that the track
01:07:07mafia-procurement
01:07:07it is absolutely
01:07:08idleness
01:07:09to explain
01:07:11the reasons
01:07:11of the massacres
01:07:12of 92
01:07:12and 93
01:07:14has
01:07:15qualified
01:07:16the approach
01:07:17of the prosecution
01:07:18of the republic
01:07:18from Caltanissetta
01:07:19as
01:07:19dogmatic
01:07:20and mystical
01:07:21compared to this track
01:07:22I use words
01:07:23which he used
01:07:24she
01:07:24and has instead
01:07:26invited
01:07:27the prosecutor's office
01:07:27of the republic
01:07:28Caltanissetta
01:07:29to accomplish
01:07:30as many as 43
01:07:31new
01:07:31investigations
01:07:32above all
01:07:33the others
01:07:33slopes
01:07:34essentially
01:07:35on the track
01:07:35black
01:07:36the track
01:07:36mafia-procurement
01:07:37it is absolutely
01:07:39contrast
01:07:39among other things
01:07:40with
01:07:41the sentences
01:07:42on the massacre
01:07:44of Via D'Amelio
01:07:45that they have
01:07:45confirmed
01:07:46That
01:07:47the director
01:07:48the coordinator
01:07:49executive
01:07:50the main one
01:07:50interested
01:07:51to that one
01:07:52massacre
01:07:52it was Joseph
01:07:53Graviano
01:07:54the same
01:07:54Graviano
01:07:56intercepted
01:07:57in a conversation
01:07:58in prison
01:07:59with his
01:07:59company
01:07:59of detention
01:08:01speaks
01:08:02of an event
01:08:04of July
01:08:05and states
01:08:06That
01:08:09he had to
01:08:10make a
01:08:11courtesy
01:08:12and it refers
01:08:12to Berlusconi
01:08:14saying that
01:08:15he had it
01:08:16abandoned
01:08:17in prison
01:08:17while he
01:08:18he didn't have it
01:08:18never
01:08:19betrayed
01:08:20Now
01:08:21I don't want to
01:08:23absolutely
01:08:23to affirm
01:08:24That
01:08:24this is it
01:08:25sufficient
01:08:26to demonstrate
01:08:27a responsibility
01:08:28to Berlusconi
01:08:29in the massacres
01:08:29of Via D'Amelio
01:08:31but it's certain
01:08:32one thing
01:08:32that Graviano
01:08:34it has never been
01:08:34busy
01:08:35of public procurement
01:08:36with this
01:08:37I wait
01:08:38of the story
01:08:39procedurally
01:08:40confirmed
01:08:40the supporters
01:08:41of the thesis
01:08:42but the contracts
01:08:42they don't do the math
01:08:43and instead
01:08:45they affirm
01:08:45that the motive
01:08:46of acceleration
01:08:47of the massacre
01:08:48of Via D'Amelio
01:08:49it was the isolation
01:08:50where he found himself
01:08:51Purse
01:08:52eager
01:08:53to take care of
01:08:53of the relationship
01:08:54mafia-procurement
01:08:55of the ROS
01:08:55of the Carabinieri
01:08:56against the advice
01:08:57of other magistrates
01:08:58of the prosecution
01:08:59It's February
01:09:01of 1991
01:09:02and the ROS
01:09:03of Mori
01:09:04and De Donno
01:09:05they deposit
01:09:06on the table
01:09:07by Giovanni Falcone
01:09:08the first report
01:09:10mafia-procurement
01:09:10what is this
01:09:11I remember
01:09:12that this relationship
01:09:13arrives on
01:09:14write about
01:09:15Dr. Falcone
01:09:16about a week
01:09:17before Falcone
01:09:19leave permanently
01:09:20Sicily
01:09:20why is he nominated
01:09:21to director
01:09:23of criminal matters
01:09:24of the management
01:09:25of criminal matters
01:09:25of the ministry
01:09:26early March
01:09:27of that 1991
01:09:28so he just manages
01:09:29to see him
01:09:29the problem
01:09:30of the content
01:09:32of the dossier
01:09:32is that
01:09:33there was a tide
01:09:34of wiretaps
01:09:35telephone
01:09:36most
01:09:39of content
01:09:39ambiguous
01:09:40to be verified
01:09:42it was necessary
01:09:43acquire
01:09:43a whole series
01:09:44of documentation
01:09:45on procurement
01:09:45that was being talked about
01:09:46in these interceptions
01:09:47and this was the object
01:09:49precisely
01:09:49of the famous
01:09:51delegation
01:09:51by
01:09:52of the prosecution
01:09:53of the Republic
01:09:53from Palermo
01:09:53to the roast
01:09:54of the Carabinieri
01:09:55the delegation
01:09:56Sira
01:09:56because the heart
01:09:57of the investigation
01:09:58of that investigation
01:09:59it concerned
01:10:00the Sira institution
01:10:01stinging
01:10:01with participation
01:10:02regional
01:10:03which indicated
01:10:03the contracts
01:10:04in Sicily
01:10:04within
01:10:05of this interception
01:10:06they feel
01:10:07mafiosi
01:10:07and entrepreneurs
01:10:08speak
01:10:09of the Sira
01:10:10like a toy
01:10:11of a thousand billion
01:10:12of lire
01:10:13which practically
01:10:14our thing
01:10:15we wanted to play
01:10:15in the judgment
01:10:16of procurement
01:10:17I remember
01:10:18that were going around
01:10:19the name
01:10:20of many
01:10:21politicians
01:10:22politicians
01:10:23not only Sicilians
01:10:24of the highest
01:10:25level
01:10:26national
01:10:27but inside
01:10:28the relationship
01:10:29those names
01:10:29there were none
01:10:30when they come out
01:10:30the names
01:10:31of politicians
01:10:31At that time?
01:10:32when the ROS
01:10:33finally
01:10:34it is decided
01:10:35to deposit
01:10:36the delegation
01:10:37Sira
01:10:37for September 5th
01:10:381992
01:10:39so after
01:10:40a year and a half
01:10:40from the first information
01:10:42Exactly
01:10:42we understood
01:10:43in the months
01:10:44to follow
01:10:45that the carabinieri
01:10:46they didn't have
01:10:46transmitted the names
01:10:47to the magistrates
01:10:48but
01:10:49the press campaign
01:10:50she had left
01:10:51why newspapers
01:10:53they published
01:10:54shreds
01:10:55of interception
01:10:56that the magistrates
01:10:58they didn't have
01:10:59what happened?
01:11:01it happened that
01:11:02the carabinieri
01:11:03of that department
01:11:05special
01:11:05in that season
01:11:07they launched
01:11:09with this relationship
01:11:11an attack
01:11:12unprecedented
01:11:13to the prosecutor's office
01:11:14of the Republic
01:11:15by Caselli
01:11:17Giancarlo Caselli
01:11:18arrived in Palermo
01:11:19as chief prosecutor
01:11:20only on January 15th
01:11:221993
01:11:23and that is
01:11:24when the clash
01:11:25between the prosecution and Ross
01:11:26it was in full swing
01:11:27but a few weeks ago
01:11:29Toll booths
01:11:30he rebuilt
01:11:30from the beginning
01:11:31the story
01:11:32mafia-procurement
01:11:32to the commission
01:11:33anti-mafia parliamentarian
01:11:34telling
01:11:35that after
01:11:36the deposit
01:11:37of the relationship
01:11:38by Ross
01:11:38in 91
01:11:39he broke out
01:11:40the press
01:11:41accusing the prosecution
01:11:42of not wanting
01:11:43touch the politicians
01:11:44from some newspapers
01:11:46they are a portrait
01:11:47devastating
01:11:48from the prosecutor's office
01:11:48from Palermo
01:11:49a group
01:11:49of beginners
01:11:51irresponsible
01:11:52in strident
01:11:53contrast
01:11:54with trapping
01:11:55with an impeccable
01:11:56Ross officer
01:11:57the fact is
01:11:58that the prosecution
01:11:59he never had
01:12:00and has never seen
01:12:03what the newspapers
01:12:04they are publishing
01:12:06there were then
01:12:07two information sheets
01:12:08mafia-procurement
01:12:10a first
01:12:10without the names
01:12:11of politicians
01:12:12and a second one
01:12:13with the names
01:12:13of politicians
01:12:14and in between
01:12:14a campaign
01:12:15of print
01:12:15to say
01:12:16but why
01:12:16don't investigate
01:12:17about names
01:12:17of politicians
01:12:18the substance
01:12:19this is it
01:12:19when then
01:12:20is delivered
01:12:21the investigation
01:12:22SIRAP
01:12:23we are in the
01:12:24September
01:12:2492
01:12:25Exactly
01:12:26for the first
01:12:27time
01:12:27they come
01:12:28press releases
01:12:28to the prosecutor's office
01:12:29of wiretaps
01:12:31dating back
01:12:31really
01:12:32at 90
01:12:33which contain
01:12:34references
01:12:35to important
01:12:35politicians
01:12:36national
01:12:38and regional
01:12:39there was Nicolosi
01:12:39Mannino
01:12:40and Lima
01:12:40Even before
01:12:42It is important to note
01:12:43that after the murder
01:12:45File
01:12:45had been deposited
01:12:47an interception
01:12:48of May 90
01:12:49in which Lima
01:12:51recommended
01:12:52Cataldo Farinella
01:12:53struck by
01:12:54precautionary measure
01:12:56in the process
01:12:56mafia-procurement
01:12:57that's a wiretap
01:12:59within
01:13:00of which
01:13:01File
01:13:02sponsor
01:13:04and practically
01:13:05promotes
01:13:06the person
01:13:08and the activities
01:13:08what he was doing
01:13:09Cataldo Farinella
01:13:10boss
01:13:11from Palermo
01:13:12arrested
01:13:12among other things
01:13:13from the prosecutor's office
01:13:13from Palermo
01:13:14and for two years
01:13:15and a half
01:13:15the prosecutor's office
01:13:16from Palermo
01:13:16he doesn't know
01:13:17that the Ross
01:13:18he had this
01:13:18interception
01:13:19on Lima
01:13:19Exactly
01:13:20this
01:13:20it's the real one
01:13:22and the real one
01:13:23cover-up
01:13:24of the relationship
01:13:25mafia-procurement
01:13:27in June
01:13:28of 1991
01:13:29the prosecutor's office
01:13:30he has himself arrested
01:13:31Angelo Seino
01:13:32the minister
01:13:33of public works
01:13:34by Totò Riina
01:13:35that stops
01:13:36the mouth
01:13:36and he doesn't speak
01:13:37Like this
01:13:38in July
01:13:38of 92
01:13:39the substitutes
01:13:40attorneys
01:13:40Loforte and Scarpinato
01:13:42they are forced
01:13:43to archive
01:13:44some positions
01:13:45including
01:13:46that of the
01:13:46mafioso
01:13:47Antonino Buscemi
01:13:48the controversy
01:13:49against the prosecution
01:13:50from Palermo
01:13:50It starts here
01:13:51this would be
01:13:53the test
01:13:53that was wanted
01:13:54to cover up
01:13:55the procurement mafia
01:13:56The elements
01:13:57but on that date
01:13:58they were not enough
01:14:00to be able to do
01:14:00a significant number
01:14:02of arrests
01:14:02because it's not enough
01:14:03arrest a person
01:14:05then it is necessary
01:14:05that the court
01:14:06for review
01:14:07confirm
01:14:07then it is necessary
01:14:08that the Court of Cassation
01:14:09confirm
01:14:10because if you
01:14:11arrests
01:14:1220 people
01:14:13then they release them
01:14:1415
01:14:15the investigation is over
01:14:16so we have
01:14:17started
01:14:18arresting some
01:14:18we arrested
01:14:19between 91
01:14:20and the 92
01:14:207 people
01:14:21for these 7 people
01:14:23have been presented
01:14:24something like
01:14:2530 appeals
01:14:26to the court
01:14:26for review
01:14:27of the Court of Cassation
01:14:28they withstood the shock
01:14:30Unfortunately
01:14:30in Sicily
01:14:31Nobody
01:14:32collaborated on contracts
01:14:33because they feared
01:14:34to be killed
01:14:35and so we have
01:14:37had to wait
01:14:37the 92
01:14:38to have
01:14:39of the collaborators
01:14:40which
01:14:41they provided us
01:14:42new elements
01:14:44and we acquired
01:14:46new findings
01:14:46which allowed us
01:14:47in May
01:14:48of 1993
01:14:49to arrest
01:14:51so many
01:14:52mafiosi
01:14:52entrepreneurs
01:14:53of level
01:14:54national
01:14:54like Odigiani
01:14:55politicians
01:14:56the Odigiani
01:14:57Certain
01:14:57the regional councilor
01:14:59to urban planning
01:15:00to do
01:15:01about ten
01:15:02of requests
01:15:02of authorization
01:15:04to proceed
01:15:04towards
01:15:05of ministers
01:15:06of deputies
01:15:07this proves
01:15:08how false it is
01:15:10the statement
01:15:11that the investigation
01:15:12of mafia contracts
01:15:13has been archived
01:15:14in 1992
01:15:15it was never archived
01:15:16he went on
01:15:17over the years
01:15:18in July 1992
01:15:20the substitutes
01:15:21attorneys
01:15:22from Palermo
01:15:23Loforte
01:15:24and Scarpinato
01:15:24they archive
01:15:25a series
01:15:26of positions
01:15:26minors
01:15:27of the relationship
01:15:28mafia procurement
01:15:29General Mori
01:15:30he formulated
01:15:31very serious charges
01:15:32on this issue
01:15:34saying that
01:15:34in essence
01:15:35the prosecutor's office
01:15:35had voluntarily
01:15:37hidden
01:15:38this filing
01:15:39carrying it out
01:15:40in the middle of summer
01:15:41for the purpose
01:15:42to favor
01:15:43the mafiosi
01:15:44and their accomplices
01:15:45when I was
01:15:46sense
01:15:46from the anti-mafia
01:15:47I read it in full
01:15:50and here I quote it
01:15:51the deposition
01:15:53under oath
01:15:54that Guido
01:15:56Loforte
01:15:56has made
01:15:57November 26th
01:15:592021
01:16:00in the process
01:16:01what is called
01:16:02misdirection
01:16:03purse
01:16:04it wasn't about
01:16:06of a request
01:16:07of archiving
01:16:08of the investigation
01:16:08mafia procurement
01:16:09but only
01:16:10of a tranche
01:16:11residual
01:16:12deprived
01:16:13of contents
01:16:14evidentiary
01:16:15it's false
01:16:16even that
01:16:17I Loforte
01:16:18have remained silent
01:16:19this circumstance
01:16:21to Paolo Borsellino
01:16:22Why
01:16:23I talked about it
01:16:24in a meeting
01:16:24in the prosecutor's office
01:16:25of July 14th
01:16:2692
01:16:27and there was
01:16:29Purse
01:16:29which
01:16:31he didn't have
01:16:31nothing to observe
01:16:34in 1992
01:16:36anything goes
01:16:37the ROS
01:16:38hiding
01:16:39the IPM
01:16:40Palermitans
01:16:40bring your report
01:16:42the prosecutor's office too
01:16:42from Catania
01:16:43who listens
01:16:44the surveyor
01:16:45Joseph Lipera
01:16:46of the group
01:16:46Rizzani
01:16:47De Ecker
01:16:47that with the magistrates
01:16:49from Palermo
01:16:49it was sewn
01:16:50the mouth
01:16:50while in Catania
01:16:52speaks
01:16:52but excludes
01:16:53the intervention
01:16:54of the mafia
01:16:54in procurement
01:16:55a real one
01:16:56misdirection
01:16:57of which in Palermo
01:16:58they realize
01:16:59in October
01:17:00in the meantime
01:17:01September 3rd
01:17:02the ROS
01:17:03had finally
01:17:04deposited
01:17:04the information
01:17:05SIRAP
01:17:06with the wiretaps
01:17:07of politicians
01:17:08disappeared for a year
01:17:09and a half
01:17:09and in 93
01:17:10the axe is coming
01:17:11he is arrested
01:17:12the management staff
01:17:14of SIRAP
01:17:14and they leave
01:17:15the requests
01:17:16of authorization
01:17:16to proceed
01:17:17for former ministers
01:17:18Mannino and Lattanzio
01:17:20and the honorable members
01:17:21Michelangelo Russo
01:17:22Rino Nicolosi
01:17:23and Severino Citaristi
01:17:24and yet the big hit
01:17:26has yet to arrive
01:17:27July 11th
01:17:29of 1997
01:17:30it's time
01:17:30turning point
01:17:31most important
01:17:32of the Tangentopole
01:17:34Sicilian
01:17:35of the mafia contract
01:17:37let's say so
01:17:37and the second
01:17:39arrest
01:17:40by Sino
01:17:41that the first time
01:17:43he had not cooperated
01:17:45absolutely
01:17:46and instead he speaks
01:17:48Angelo Sino
01:17:49goes to the top
01:17:50to the pyramid
01:17:50Here you are
01:17:51the big fish
01:17:53it's the group
01:17:53Concretes
01:17:54which was headed
01:17:55to the mafioso
01:17:56Antonino Buscemi
01:17:57who had as a partner
01:17:58occult
01:17:59the Ferruzzi group
01:18:00by Raul Gardini
01:18:01king of chemistry
01:18:02and agro-industry
01:18:03Italian
01:18:04that was
01:18:04mysteriously
01:18:05killed in 93
01:18:06September 4th
01:18:08of 1997
01:18:09mafiosi
01:18:10and company heads
01:18:11they all come
01:18:12arrested
01:18:13and part
01:18:14unmissable
01:18:15a new poison
01:18:16Captain De Donno
01:18:18he goes to the prosecutor's office
01:18:19from Caltanissetta
01:18:20and tells
01:18:21that three magistrates
01:18:22including
01:18:23The Forte
01:18:23they had in fact
01:18:24delivered to Sino
01:18:25the relationship
01:18:26Mafia contracts
01:18:26they had sold it
01:18:27to the mafia
01:18:28it will emerge that
01:18:29Angelo Sino
01:18:30heard by the prosecutor
01:18:31Toll booths
01:18:31regarding this
01:18:32specific accusation
01:18:33not only
01:18:35will deny De Donno
01:18:36and then he will say
01:18:37I the relationship
01:18:38Mafia contracts
01:18:38I didn't have it
01:18:39clearly
01:18:40from the prosecutors
01:18:41from Palermo
01:18:42but I had it
01:18:42from Salvolima
01:18:43partly from Salvolima
01:18:45in part
01:18:45by Maricello Guazzelli
01:18:46in part of the Maricello Lombardo
01:18:47but even
01:18:49will accuse De Donno
01:18:50of having done
01:18:51pressure on him
01:18:52to name a name
01:18:53by Lo Forte
01:18:54as a magistrate
01:18:55sold
01:18:56it is made present
01:18:58that at that moment
01:18:59historical
01:19:00Dr. Lo Forte
01:19:01he was the owner
01:19:02of the investigation
01:19:03which had just begun
01:19:04about Marcello Dell'Utri
01:19:06Sino's wife
01:19:08Carmela Bertolino
01:19:11reports three
01:19:12De Donno's attempts
01:19:13to get from her
01:19:14elements
01:19:15strong control
01:19:16De Donno
01:19:19he went
01:19:20in Caltarecetta
01:19:21to report
01:19:21this or that
01:19:22of the prosecution
01:19:22from Palermo
01:19:23I don't know how many times
01:19:24and that every time
01:19:26who was going to report
01:19:27the next day
01:19:27there was news
01:19:28in the newspapers
01:19:29shot
01:19:31an obvious one
01:19:32evident
01:19:33consequential
01:19:33delegitimization
01:19:34of the prosecution
01:19:35in the end
01:19:36how many people
01:19:37she was hit
01:19:38from the investigation
01:19:39mafia procurement
01:19:39and from yours
01:19:40investigation
01:19:41arrested
01:19:42about
01:19:43150
01:19:45pharmafiosis
01:19:46politicians
01:19:47officials
01:19:48and entrepreneurs
01:19:51and not only
01:19:52Angelo Sino
01:19:53in 1998
01:19:55will declare
01:19:55that also
01:19:56the cooperatives
01:19:56red
01:19:57they were integrated
01:19:58fully fledged
01:19:59in the system
01:20:00criminal
01:20:00who had
01:20:01at its peak
01:20:02the boss
01:20:02of the Sicilian DC
01:20:03Salvo Lima
01:20:04but already three years
01:20:06Before
01:20:06in 95
01:20:07Toll booths
01:20:08he had asked
01:20:08to Gaetano Paci
01:20:09then substitute
01:20:10attorney
01:20:11in Palermo
01:20:11and today
01:20:12at the wheel
01:20:12of the prosecution
01:20:13from Reggio Emilia
01:20:14to investigate
01:20:15on cooperatives
01:20:16linked to the left
01:20:17and Paci
01:20:18he broke out
01:20:19ordering
01:20:19a search
01:20:20to the League
01:20:21of the Cooperatives
01:20:21Sicilian
01:20:22where they were
01:20:23seized
01:20:24documents
01:20:24about the races
01:20:25of tender
01:20:25rigged
01:20:26that only
01:20:27Sino
01:20:27he knew how to decode
01:20:30the search
01:20:31aroused
01:20:32even a certain one
01:20:34a certain
01:20:35uproar
01:20:36at the time
01:20:36in 1995
01:20:38because it was almost
01:20:40how to violate
01:20:40a sort
01:20:41of sanctuary
01:20:42untouchable
01:20:43when we spoke
01:20:45at the time
01:20:45of Cooperatives
01:20:46Red
01:20:46it wasn't done
01:20:47reference
01:20:47only
01:20:48to those
01:20:49large
01:20:50structures
01:20:51cooperatives
01:20:52that they had
01:20:53mainly based
01:20:54in northern Italy
01:20:55and here
01:20:56in Emilia Romagna
01:20:57but I'm referring
01:20:59also to structures
01:21:00entrepreneurial
01:21:02that they didn't have
01:21:03not even
01:21:05let's say
01:21:06cooperative nature
01:21:07among these
01:21:08for example
01:21:08I remember
01:21:08De Bartolomeis
01:21:09by Romano Tronci
01:21:11with reports
01:21:12certainly preferential
01:21:14with some
01:21:15political figures
01:21:16of the Communist Party
01:21:17I'll make you understand
01:21:18the pyramid
01:21:18at the top
01:21:19Salvolima
01:21:20Certainly
01:21:22Salvolima
01:21:22as
01:21:23guarantor
01:21:24on behalf
01:21:25of Cosa Nostra
01:21:26of a principle
01:21:27of division
01:21:28fair
01:21:29of public spending
01:21:30which had to
01:21:31flow
01:21:32on the world
01:21:33of procurement
01:21:33and without
01:21:34his role
01:21:35without this
01:21:36coverage
01:21:37and without
01:21:38the agreements
01:21:39above all
01:21:39with the others
01:21:40components
01:21:41also of type
01:21:42political
01:21:44according to the stories
01:21:45by Sino
01:21:46moreover
01:21:47for the most part
01:21:48found
01:21:49from one point of view
01:21:50in fact
01:21:52this system
01:21:53could not operate
01:21:54and in the relationship
01:21:55Ross
01:21:55the one in 1991
01:21:57mafia procurement
01:21:59trace
01:22:00of the cooperatives
01:22:00there were red ones
01:22:01No
01:22:02but then
01:22:03why the commission
01:22:04anti-mafia parliamentarian
01:22:05he insists on saying
01:22:06that behind
01:22:07the murder
01:22:07Bosselino
01:22:08the motive
01:22:09it's the relationship
01:22:11mafia procurement
01:22:11buried in the sand
01:22:12from the prosecutor's office
01:22:13from Palermo
01:22:14evidently
01:22:15there is
01:22:15an obsession
01:22:17on this track
01:22:18which in my opinion
01:22:19it is not sustainable
01:22:22data in hand
01:22:24it's not mafia procurement
01:22:25the cause
01:22:26of death
01:22:26of Verocole
01:22:26Bosselino
01:22:27the alternative track
01:22:28can be
01:22:29the negotiation
01:22:29or it can be
01:22:30the black slope
01:22:31the relationship
01:22:32mafia procurement
01:22:33used as a club
01:22:35against the magistrates
01:22:36of then
01:22:36and those too
01:22:37today
01:22:38there are two
01:22:39reports
01:22:39mafia procurement
01:22:41and they were
01:22:42states
01:22:43the first
01:22:44delivered
01:22:44in the hands
01:22:45by John
01:22:45Falcon
01:22:46in February
01:22:47of 91
01:22:48but Falcone
01:22:48he was direct
01:22:49in Rome
01:22:50to the management
01:22:50criminal matters
01:22:51of the ministry
01:22:52please
01:22:53and justice
01:22:53leave the dossier
01:22:54in the hands
01:22:55of the prosecutor
01:22:55Gianmanco
01:22:57that closes it
01:22:58in one
01:22:58safe
01:22:59900 pages
01:23:02488
01:23:03attachments
01:23:03on the subject
01:23:04interesting
01:23:05but shapeless
01:23:06difficult
01:23:07that some
01:23:08measure
01:23:08of custody
01:23:09to caution
01:23:09could hold
01:23:10up to the
01:23:11Cassation
01:23:12However
01:23:13Loforte
01:23:14and Scarpinato
01:23:15they ask
01:23:15the arrest
01:23:16by Angelo
01:23:17Sino
01:23:17considered
01:23:18the minister
01:23:20of public works
01:23:21of Cosa Nostra
01:23:21and 4
01:23:22other people
01:23:24and a part
01:23:25then they archive it
01:23:26but there was
01:23:27an interception
01:23:28which had struck
01:23:29their attention
01:23:30the one on the
01:23:30Syrap
01:23:31based on
01:23:32to the intercepted
01:23:33it was about
01:23:34of a public body
01:23:35a little toy
01:23:36a thousand billion
01:23:37of lire
01:23:38of procurement
01:23:39the magistrates
01:23:39they ask
01:23:40to Ross
01:23:41an in-depth analysis
01:23:42from which it will arise
01:23:43the second
01:23:44relationship
01:23:46mafia-procurement
01:23:46will be delivered
01:23:47in September
01:23:49of 92
01:23:50after the massacres
01:23:51and there
01:23:52there are the names
01:23:52of politicians
01:23:53of entrepreneurs
01:23:55and the mafia
01:23:56they snap
01:23:56the arrests
01:23:58and then it happens
01:23:58something
01:23:59of no small importance
01:24:00the surveyor
01:24:02Lipera
01:24:02headmistress
01:24:03of Rizzani
01:24:03Ecker
01:24:04who has
01:24:04many contracts
01:24:05in Sicily
01:24:06he hadn't spoken
01:24:07with the magistrates
01:24:08Palermitans
01:24:09in October 92
01:24:10talk to those
01:24:12from Catania
01:24:13and there
01:24:14he names names
01:24:15and there too
01:24:16they will shoot
01:24:17of the arrests
01:24:19but the turning point
01:24:20there will be
01:24:21in 97
01:24:21when Angelo
01:24:22Siino
01:24:23decides to speak
01:24:24to the prosecutor's office
01:24:25by Caselli
01:24:26and there
01:24:27the world falls
01:24:28entrepreneurial
01:24:29of Sicily
01:24:30Concretes
01:24:31and also
01:24:32the group
01:24:33Ferruzzi
01:24:34entity
01:24:34entrepreneurial
01:24:36huge
01:24:36national
01:24:37and then
01:24:38from
01:24:39statements
01:24:40by Siino
01:24:41they discover themselves
01:24:41even the Cups
01:24:42Red
01:24:42that in the relationship
01:24:44mafia-procurement
01:24:45of the Reds
01:24:45there were none
01:24:46a structure
01:24:47pyramidal
01:24:48which was headed
01:24:49as guarantor
01:24:50in management
01:24:51of procurement
01:24:52Salvo Lima
01:24:53Salvo Lima
01:24:53which was also
01:24:55in an interception
01:24:56of 90
01:24:57while he recommended
01:24:59for procurement
01:25:00a boss
01:25:01a man of Cosa Nostra
01:25:02an interception
01:25:03long hidden
01:25:04from the Reds
01:25:06and then
01:25:07Siino said
01:25:08even of having been able to
01:25:09to view
01:25:10the relationship
01:25:10mafia-procurement
01:25:11preview
01:25:13thanks to Salvo Lima
01:25:14corrupt men
01:25:15from the forces
01:25:15of the order
01:25:16he also says that
01:25:17De Donno
01:25:18would have tried
01:25:19to make him say
01:25:20that Loforte
01:25:21he was the magistrate
01:25:22a corrupt person
01:25:26and instead
01:25:28Loforte
01:25:28he was the magistrate
01:25:30we remember it
01:25:30which had opened
01:25:32the investigation
01:25:32about Marcello
01:25:33Dell'Utri
01:25:34that investigation
01:25:34which brought
01:25:35then to the condemnation
01:25:36of the senator
01:25:37to be the hinge
01:25:39between the government
01:25:39Berlusconi
01:25:40and the mafia
01:25:41De Donno
01:25:42faced with these accusations
01:25:43he went to report it
01:25:44the magistrates
01:25:45then of Palermo
01:25:47in Caltanissetta
01:25:49and then
01:25:50Caltanissetta
01:25:51he archived
01:25:53Here you are
01:25:53this whole story
01:25:54of the relationship
01:25:56mafia-procurement
01:25:56according to the prosecution
01:25:57Nisena
01:25:58it's the basis
01:25:59of the massacre
01:26:00of Via D'Amelio
01:26:01It's a shame they don't explain
01:26:02Nothing
01:26:03on how it happened
01:26:04the massacre
01:26:05on the principals
01:26:06on the performers
01:26:07materials
01:26:08that have been
01:26:09even the Gravianos
01:26:10that nothing
01:26:11they have to do with
01:26:12with the management
01:26:13of procurement
01:26:14and if you're really interested
01:26:16this relationship
01:26:16between mafia-contracts
01:26:18why not listen
01:26:19the appeal
01:26:19of the national prosecutor
01:26:21Melillo
01:26:21that last April
01:26:23he wrote a letter
01:26:24to Minister Nordio
01:26:25to the minister
01:26:26Piantedosi
01:26:27and to the commission
01:26:29same
01:26:29complaining
01:26:30a norm
01:26:31of the Meloni government
01:26:32of 2023
01:26:34which prevents
01:26:35to use
01:26:36the wiretaps
01:26:37born in a process
01:26:39in another
01:26:40in proceedings
01:26:41this prevents
01:26:43the fight
01:26:44to the mafia
01:26:45he weakened her
01:26:46above all
01:26:46the fight
01:26:48to that mafia
01:26:48that he doesn't wear
01:26:49plus the coppola
01:26:50but the collar
01:26:51white
01:26:51and does business
01:26:53with the public
01:26:54administration
01:26:55but
01:26:55but
01:26:55but
01:26:55but
01:26:56but
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