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00:00:00they need to be better on offense and they need to be better in the bullpen
00:00:03and they've got three you know two-thirds of a season for that to happen before the postseason
00:00:09really it's this third like they have to fix it in this third
00:00:22hello and welcome to the pitch strike post my name is ryan sampson he's the star of the show
00:00:26joel sherman today is tuesday may 26th the day after memorial day weekend we hope you all enjoyed
00:00:31your memorial day weekend and really think about what that day really means to everyone there
00:00:34uh but as always we're here to talk yankees baseball since the last time we spoke to joel
00:00:39the yankees split with the blue jays they split with the rays after a rainy weekend here in new york
00:00:44and then they win in an in a incredible fashion the ninth inning yesterday against the royals on
00:00:49memorial day but before any of that as always i like to start off the show joel sherman how you
00:00:54doing today on this tuesday nicks finals new york city type of day yeah so uh i'm doing real well
00:01:03thanks for asking ryan uh it's uh without being long-winded it's been interesting because uh i have
00:01:10twin boys uh who are 21 uh they are not traditional sports fans you get them to watch a ufc
00:01:18bout especially
00:01:19one of my boys people kick kick ass but not the traditional though everything here is because i
00:01:25cover baseball uh but uh i told them before game one you're of the cleveland series of the eastern
00:01:31conference finals hey guys you're 21 now we've never done it before i said why don't you come to
00:01:35a bar with me and watch the nick game tonight i said i think you'll get into it because everyone
00:01:40in
00:01:40the bar will be into it and they said sure like i'm blessed i have a good relationship with my
00:01:45kids they
00:01:45they wanted to do it ryan that's the game where they came back from what 21 down yes by about
00:01:51by about four minutes left in the game they're screaming at the television and high-fiving with
00:01:56people they don't know in the bar and it's now become a tradition we've done it for each of the
00:02:00games uh one of my sons has a girlfriend so he hasn't been able to do it but one of
00:02:05my boys and
00:02:05me have done all the games together but because i covered the match yesterday i didn't get home until
00:02:10the game was in the second period in the second quarter so we just sat and watch it reason i
00:02:14bring
00:02:14it up is that son has watched four nick games in his life and he thinks this is normal and
00:02:23i'm trying
00:02:24to explain like a it's not normal for anyone in history in any sport to play like this but if
00:02:30you
00:02:30followed the knicks at all it's not really so i'm assuming he's the good luck charm uh and uh and
00:02:38uh
00:02:38since his name is also nick and you can't spell knicks without it uh i'm going to uh assume he's
00:02:46a good luck charm but he's been i i love new york i love new york i'm born and raised
00:02:51here live here
00:02:52uh and i love new york in the spring when the knicks are good the city is just so great
00:02:57when the
00:02:58knicks the rangers like this time of year if they're like both making runs or one is making a run
00:03:02but especially it's such a basketball city i just love how my city feels
00:03:07when the knicks are going and that i've gotten to do this one with the boys a little bit has
00:03:13been
00:03:13really good and i'm realized i just tm died the beginning of the show here so no look the stars
00:03:18are
00:03:18aligning there you maybe he is the good luck charm because you are yes i'm not i'm that's my story
00:03:23and
00:03:24i'm sticking with it i'm a man of science but i believe he's a good luck charm the the unbelievable
00:03:28run that they are on right now it is historic it has never happened before it's incredible to watch
00:03:34uh i know there's a lot of yankees fans who are knicks fans mets fans as well are knicks fans
00:03:38but
00:03:38it is just an amazing thing to see uh the city is definitely in a vibe right now going to
00:03:44the nba
00:03:44finals the first time in 27 years it's truly an incredible time but we're here obviously joel
00:03:50to talk about those yankees and and i want to start off really with something that i remember you
00:03:55talked to me about i think it was a week or two ago on the show and you said ryan
00:04:00the record for
00:04:01the yankees in one run games is not great right now they their bullpen obviously is an issue there
00:04:05it's a reason why they've blown a lot of leads but i i want to ask you about the last
00:04:10two wins here
00:04:11for the yanks and against the rays on on sunday in the rainy slog walk-off home run by judge
00:04:17and then
00:04:18yesterday in the come from behind victory in the ninth inning this is two wins that they came back late
00:04:23and won the game i know you said to me ryan it's going to turn it's not going to stay
00:04:28the same where
00:04:29the yankees have a bad record in one run games or they're playing teams above 500 and they have a
00:04:33bad record it's going to turn they're going to even out so is this a good sign obviously it's a
00:04:38good
00:04:38sign but like what are you reading from the fact that the yankees were able to make two big comeback
00:04:42wins over the rays and the royals in the last two wins uh very little uh except for that i
00:04:49know we
00:04:50would be doing a different kind of show with you if they had lost those two games uh and that
00:04:55you know
00:04:55like i recognize how emotional yankee are fans of any team get uh so i guess it's good that it
00:05:00turned off that spigot i just one run games are very fickle uh i know people want to assume that
00:05:06there's a lot of magic to it you know there's a lot of times where one run game is you
00:05:11were losing
00:05:11five nothing and you lose five four and you go oh i lost the one run game and i'm like
00:05:15did you
00:05:16you know like it ended up a one run game you were behind the whole game you scored some runs
00:05:20anyway i i assume the yankees will do better in one run games over time i assume continue assume
00:05:27they'll do better against teams with winning records if anyone in the american league ever has
00:05:31a winning record besides them in tampa bay uh i think is it oakland and the white socks oakland i'm
00:05:37showing my age the a's and the white socks uh also uh are over 500 uh so you know like
00:05:45i assume
00:05:46those things will equal out look i i think the yankees are uh very good uh they have a real
00:05:54super
00:05:54strength their rotation is excellent it got more so with cole coming back and pitching so well in his
00:06:00first start back uh it's going to give them alternatives to potentially help a bullpen which
00:06:05i think everyone agrees is their weak spot as time goes by by either you know like taking some guys
00:06:11from the from the rotation and putting them in the bullpen uh in this what i assume would be the
00:06:16second half of the season and they'll clearly address it in july they know that they're one of
00:06:21the teams that has a chance to do some significant winning this year which means in october also and so
00:06:27i when that has happened you know brian cashman and his group has always tried to address it then you
00:06:31have to pick the right guys you know you can't pick you know scott afros and jake bird again you've
00:06:37got to
00:06:37get a guy or two who really helps the bullpen so you're if i'm reading this correctly you wouldn't
00:06:43put as much stock in something like an anthony volpe last yesterday giving a huge basic go ahead
00:06:49like it was it's funny ryan i had you on my brain yesterday i was at the met game and
00:06:55uh i had the
00:06:56yankees on my uh phone and i was watching it and when he like so i don't know if they
00:07:01talked about it
00:07:02on the game i don't know if they talked about it but i was thinking to myself shouldn't wells or
00:07:07mcmahon be hitting here and of course like i'm thinking to myself wells and mcmahon they're not
00:07:12very good uh so should they just for the lefty righty of it and when he goes down oh and
00:07:17two
00:07:17right i figured oh crap he's going to strike out and ryan and i are going to be doing a
00:07:22segment
00:07:22tomorrow about how much volpe sucks and it's a reminder that like like singular events can change
00:07:27your mind on things uh and they probably shouldn't however you felt about anthony volpe before that
00:07:33swing is probably how you should feel about him now uh do you think he's going to be useful or
00:07:38not
00:07:38uh do you and because i don't think one swing makes a season i don't believe that oh he got
00:07:45that
00:07:45hit and now that will liberate him and he's suddenly going to be a 300 hitter or even a 260
00:07:49hitter which
00:07:50would be a big improvement you know he got a hit probably more because a pitch was thrown poorly
00:07:55than anything else especially with uh on a one two count so uh i i don't put a ton of
00:08:02stock in it
00:08:02beyond that the yankees will win a lot of close games and rally in a lot of games because they're
00:08:08good i think they're really good and so therefore on the way to 90-ish wins they'll win in a
00:08:15variety
00:08:15of different ways and you know like i think it's one of the things i've suggested over time when we've
00:08:20done the show ryan is like like uh the yankees lost a lot of one run games good teams tend
00:08:26to win
00:08:29it's how run differential is created when you have a big run differential the yankees are leading
00:08:32the american league in run differential though they trail the the uh rays and the ales because you win
00:08:38in blowouts and then you also win close and lose close because you're good enough to be in every game
00:08:44they're starting pitching is going to keep them in every game so like i just think yankee fans have
00:08:48to get used to they're going to be a lot of four three losses this year it's a reflection in
00:08:53some
00:08:53ways that they're good and that they're going to lose very few games eight to three they're going
00:08:59to be in close games now with that said the close games do show the two overlying weaknesses of the
00:09:08team one of which i think can be addressed i'm not sure the other one could be addressed one is
00:09:14the
00:09:14bullpen where they've lost a lot of games because it's faltered someplace along the chain as they use
00:09:19multiple guys and again i think that will be that can be corrected if some of their starters take to
00:09:25relief well and they've trade well the other one is they they they are a swing and miss team so
00:09:33like
00:09:34when judge hits it over the fence they win a game and when he doesn't you don't often have the
00:09:39anthony vote be single as a way for them to win a game so uh you know the blue jays
00:09:46model of of how
00:09:48to win in last postseason was get it in play uh and i think against good you know i think
00:09:54you'd have
00:09:54a very very good argument with baseball people ryan if that model is better or a home run model is
00:10:01better because the pitching is so good in baseball in general and in the postseason in specific that if
00:10:06you wait to get two or three singles in an inning you're gonna fail and what you need to do
00:10:11is get
00:10:12the ball over the fence and make every time you do strike the ball well meaningful i still think that
00:10:18you've got to put prep there's something psychological about putting constant pressure yeah on the opposing
00:10:24team by by not striking out a lot and putting it in play and i just think the yankees are
00:10:29going to be
00:10:29a high strikeout team and the variable is always going to be how many do they park over a fence
00:10:35as a game a series and a season goes along uh my suspicion is they'll hit well over 200 homers
00:10:42they'll score lots of runs and then we'll see how vulnerable it makes them in october yeah i completely
00:10:47agree with you joel and that's a bigger bigger question and bigger philosophy i would love to dive
00:10:52into but real quick again about the the volpe and caballero thing it came to fruition yesterday
00:10:58with cabby playing third volpe at short mcmahon takes the bench versus righty they play the reverse
00:11:04splits versus waka yesterday uh is that just the reverse splits or could we see more of that down
00:11:09the line here as mcmahon has continued to struggle to hit yeah you know i thought about this yesterday
00:11:16again at the met game so marcus simian is a more tolerable player now it's funny he ended up batting
00:11:24cleanup and hitting a home run yesterday i think he had another hit also but he's hit very poorly but
00:11:29you tolerate some of the hitting because he was such a good defensive second baseman that you're getting
00:11:35something there that has not been true this year he's been average-ish as the second baseman fine
00:11:41better than jeff mcneil but not by a lot uh and so the offensive problems become more overt they stand
00:11:50out i think the same thing is true with ryan mcmahon if he was defending the heck out of third
00:11:55base like
00:11:56he did for the two months he played with the yankees last season then some of the offense not all
00:12:03of it
00:12:03some of it becomes a little more tolerable there's very few players who are good at everything you know
00:12:08there's very few bobby wits and aaron judges who are just good at everything so you know you have
00:12:13to learn to like certain things about your players uh on your team in all sports because again the guys
00:12:20who are great great they get paid a ton of money but they're few few and far between but mcmahon
00:12:25hasn't fielded that special this year the arm has been erratic at times even the glove a little bit
00:12:31more than you would expect and so it's just harder to tolerate the bat if there's not going to be
00:12:37attached to it the great glove and i think last week when we did the show i said my suspicion
00:12:43is
00:12:44they're following a model that feels very much like the rays to some degree where they'll have some
00:12:50and caballero comes from the rays where they'll have some flexibility with guys like rosario
00:12:55and schumann and caballero in particular to use his chess pieces to move around a lot
00:13:02to where that i think they'll examine every day and say the opposing pitcher is x is that a righty
00:13:09we
00:13:10think ryan mcmahon will do well against like like does his strengths line up with that strength is so
00:13:15he'll play third base uh and if not i think that they'll try to play their best lineups the line
00:13:24i believe
00:13:24i used last week was caballero has earned the right to play right and now and i don't think that
00:13:31necessarily means shortstop every day and we'll see if volpe continues to earn the right to play
00:13:36by doing good things i think this is you know where we've talked about the ruthless yankees to some
00:13:43degree this year i just think this is you got there there are certain like aaron judge could go 11
00:13:48games without an rbi you know what he's going to play every day yeah cody bellinger could go into
00:13:53a slump he's going to play every day i think ben rice has probably done enough now that if he
00:13:58goes
00:13:58into a slump which he's currently in he's in a slump right yeah he's going to play 80 to 90
00:14:03percent of
00:14:03the games right but if you are ryan mcmahon or jose caballero or anthony volpe you got to earn dinner
00:14:12it makes sense joel it does uh and and to go back to your other point about this lineup and
00:14:18we saw
00:14:19against the blue jays they were struggling to get runs there and they became the strikeout heavy team
00:14:24that you had said uh it begs the question like you had mentioned before about is this lineup too much
00:14:31reliant on judge hitting that home run or rice even hitting that home run because the supporting cast
00:14:37of chisholm volpe caballero escara slash wells mcmahon like grisham has not performed till last
00:14:45year which we kind of expected he wasn't going to repeat last year that was a blip on the radar
00:14:50um
00:14:51is this lineup good enough right like you said to your point to to make that run in the postseason
00:14:57or they just really built for the one in 62 and then we'll see what happens in the playoffs they
00:15:02can
00:15:02carry it over so i would be you know cautious because once more we've we've talked about a lot
00:15:11of stuff on this show in the three years we've done it together and one of them is i always
00:15:15say
00:15:15obviously we're doing a thing called the pinstripe pose but you could get myopic and say just look at
00:15:22the yankees uh the the the the central leadership of the sport keeps trying to figure out ways to
00:15:29inject offense into the sport and right now the batting average is about 237 for the whole sport
00:15:37so it would mean it's the lowest since 1968 which was the year of the pitcher they lowered the mound
00:15:43because the pitching was so dominant a couple of years later they brought in the designated hitter
00:15:48to the american league because the pitching was so dominant i just think i and i i am no
00:15:55expert on pitching and hitting to the levels of who the experts are but every time i ask what is
00:16:03going
00:16:03on they say the thing that has really happened this year and it's exploded as opposed to some of the
00:16:11previous years and i think you could almost use cam schlittler as the example is it used to be if
00:16:15a guy
00:16:16drew a fastball he drew a four seamer he drew a breaking ball of some sort and a change up
00:16:22and maybe
00:16:22maybe had a four seamer and a two seamer what what you're seeing now is guys are like cam schlittler
00:16:27they're throwing all three versions of fastballs which are all very very fast from the certain guys
00:16:34and they all move in different directions and that hitters it is just destroying hitters uh because
00:16:41there's just no way to cover everything at that velocity and so i think we're seeing more guess hitting
00:16:48than ever uh to try or trying to eliminate at a higher level than ever the yankees are not the
00:16:56only team there is another team in town in queens for example we're watching and the like carlos mendoza
00:17:06got asked on sunday pre-game why is marcus simian hitting fourth i mean he's been terrible and between
00:17:14juan soto being sick and other injuries and a left-hander on the mound for cincinnati he was like
00:17:22okay i've got to play oh i want a right-hander to hit fourth and the choices were him nick
00:17:28morabito
00:17:30louis terrens and tyrone taylor in other words it was all poison it was like pick it and i just
00:17:36think
00:17:36if you go if you thumb through a lot of lineups that are you know not there's just you know
00:17:44tampa
00:17:44bay leads the division it right their lineup is very much like the yankees most of the damage is done
00:17:51by three guys by yandy diaz caminero and a ronda ronda and they're all really good now they put the
00:17:57ball
00:17:58and play more and they have a different kind of player in chandler simpson but you know what the
00:18:03yankees basically unplugged their offense also over the weekend um and like there's offense is hard
00:18:12right now and if i said to you ryan you have a free trade to make who would you like
00:18:19like what would
00:18:20you plug in uh you know could you say hey san francisco is going to trade louis arise but okay
00:18:26that does
00:18:27that mean you're going to put chisholm back at third base i wouldn't do that like just to get
00:18:32louis arises back into the lineup like it's one thing if you're saying you're trading chisholm for
00:18:37relief pitcher and even then arises numbers are good on defense this year but he's not historically a good
00:18:43second baseman so i don't know what to make of that but like to get some non-swing and miss
00:18:49in the
00:18:50lineup it's it's just hard to find those guys uh and those guys are generally being held on to
00:18:57by their teams like they're putting them in a bear hook like like a guy who i i think we
00:19:01did some
00:19:02shows in the off season and i mentioned if i had the ability there was a moment where it looked
00:19:08like
00:19:08the cubs were seriously considering trading nico horner right and i was like if the yankees could
00:19:14do a two-prong move where they trade jazz for for stuff and get nico horner i think that would
00:19:21work
00:19:21perfectly because he's such a high baseball iq player he's such a good defender he kills lefty
00:19:26pitching and he doesn't swing and miss now the cubs ended up because he's all of that the cubs signed
00:19:32them to a long contract and by the way he's his offense went up another grade this year in total
00:19:38beyond just beating up lefties they're just hard to find and i it's why like like you just can't pour
00:19:45up you know pixie dust on on the marketplace and say give me a guy who hits 300 who could
00:19:52also field
00:19:53uh you know at one of these three or four positions and uh doesn't cost a ton of money
00:19:59and won't cost me my best prospect it's just hard to find ryan uh it's why the re-signing of
00:20:05bellinger was so i i was obviously an advocate of his acquisition and his re-signing because he's the
00:20:13rare he there is not a lot of swing and miss in his game and he's just so valuable yeah
00:20:18i mean i
00:20:19agree with you joel uh bellinger he provides that that third attack or that third high player profile
00:20:27that can make a damage in the lineup for the yankees because right now it does feel very much
00:20:31so like it's judge it's rice and then bellinger and then the rest of the lineup you're just hoping
00:20:36and praying there's just a lot of lineups like i know yeah like you said the rays are like that's
00:20:40a
00:20:40lot of like like i i tell people all the time you know go to baseball reference go to parent
00:20:45like
00:20:45look at lineups and look at how many of them are how many guys who are have a couple of
00:20:50hundred at
00:20:50bats already and are subterranean multiple in almost every lineup i guess it would just very
00:20:56few things that even look forget about one to nine most lineups by five or six are diving right the
00:21:03cliff right i guess i the hope is you would you would love to have seen a better start to
00:21:09the season
00:21:09from someone like a jazz chisholm who's in a contract year or even trent grisham like if if
00:21:14they had gotten that yeah you know like my fear and i said it on the show about chisholm was
00:21:22that
00:21:22trying to chase 50 50 he might hit 200 and strike out 200 times i thought that you know he's
00:21:29an emotional
00:21:30player uh who is in a big emotional moment in his career where he can make a big payday he
00:21:35already he
00:21:36already kind of signaled the dollars he wanted in spring training which is kind of floating away
00:21:41if that was ever even realistic and just like like sometimes you can talk yourself out of things uh
00:21:48and i thought i thought this was a bad match jazz chisholm in a walk year and goals uh and
00:21:55so far
00:21:55it has though he's gotten a couple of big hits uh uh recently and he's obviously we always go back
00:22:00to
00:22:01he's so talented so talented but i i i would just assume at this point it's never going to be
00:22:07consistent i would assume at this vote he's never going to be consistent i'm going to assume at this
00:22:11point the more you see cavaliero maybe the less you're going to want to see him play every day
00:22:15uh that's that was kind of his history in two places that kind of moved on from him uh so
00:22:22the yankees might need to get a i i i assume the yankees are very comfortable with their starting
00:22:29pitching though they keep getting linked to tarik skuble for some reason uh that i don't know i
00:22:33think that they have to use whatever collateral they're willing to trade has to be for a guy who
00:22:39pitches in the last six to nine games of a game and or two and perhaps uh an infield bat
00:22:46uh uh that or
00:22:49you know an outfield bat if you're comfortable with bellinger moving to center or that outfield bat
00:22:55like if so again this guy strikes out a lot but like like if byron buxton became available
00:23:01would you be like yeah go get that but i think he fits he brings defense and speed but he
00:23:07strikes
00:23:07out a ton he goes into long stretches of like one for 20s it's more the same what the yankees
00:23:14have but
00:23:15like you said that's the score right now and that's i just think the sport is that's what populates the
00:23:20sport yeah and i know people talk about it being well it's lunch lunch angle i'm like i'm much more
00:23:26it's the pitching yeah like like this pitching is just very hard to square up and if your philosophy
00:23:35is i'm going to square it up and i'm going to try to get three singles to score a run
00:23:39i just don't
00:23:41think that's as good a philosophy as trying to hit the ball over the fence and yet you've got to
00:23:45try
00:23:45to find some balance because i think once the postseason rolls around if you're just making
00:23:50easy innings by two strikeouts an inning it's there's just it's a not good but b there's a
00:23:57psychological thing too we're not putting any pressure on the other team to even field the ball
00:24:02that's that's you know that to me is you're hitting the the nail on the head there i think the
00:24:07yankees
00:24:08actually have the pieces to put the pressure on opposing teams if it's a change in philosophy
00:24:13if it's a matter of if we're going to go up to the to the plate saying i want to
00:24:17get on base right
00:24:18now because i got the big horses behind me i know if i can get volpey and chisholm and caballero
00:24:23on
00:24:24the base pass they're on base percentage is one of the best is that it's is it the best in
00:24:28baseball
00:24:29just because of judge and rice and and those guys who know how to draw a walk because they have
00:24:34such
00:24:34high walk percentages high on base percentage and christian draws a tiny walks uh bellinger gets a i think
00:24:42above league average and walks uh it's very tough yeah you know the best but i'm telling you ryan
00:24:49no i know i hear you every sport this is just i'm giving you a free shot tell me the
00:24:55player on a
00:24:57the mets the giants the rockies um the national like like teams that you think are definitely going
00:25:05to be sellers at this point could you probably have like maybe would the yankees with the yankees
00:25:09been interested in bringing back old friend glaber torres to be back in this lineup you know but to
00:25:14play where i mean i you would have to really question are we really doing any good by keeping
00:25:21jazz chisholm on this team yeah and but but but i i think that you you know like nostalgia is
00:25:28undefeated
00:25:28the you know the heart and mind remember what they want i have a feeling you dislike glaber torres
00:25:34in his time as much as you dislike jazz chisholm right now defensively for sure for sure right and
00:25:39you can't say he's only playing offense right uh you're gonna have to put him in the field now
00:25:43by the way his defensive metrics this year were good for whatever that's worth before he got hurt
00:25:48so is that that the tigers who aren't doing a lot right were positioning him better what did he get
00:25:55better i i think he's very slow-footed yeah his sprints needs for a middle infielder are among the
00:26:00worst uh but you know like you do know that guy's gonna make contact and he's not afraid of a
00:26:06big
00:26:07moment uh i also think that the way he all laid the ball in game one of the world series
00:26:13in 2024
00:26:15was the uh a settling tank and match to the yankees blowing that world series because it
00:26:23allowed otani to get an extra base at a time where the yankees could have closed them out and you
00:26:27never
00:26:27would have seen freddie freeman versus nesta cortez one time so i know i know i'm being myopic i know
00:26:35i
00:26:35know i'm being myopic also you're being this you're being nostalgic and remembering the better
00:26:40parts of glaber and forgetting you know like what what it was again and again there's no perfect like
00:26:46glaber torres is a fine major league player like there it's hard to find guys who are good at
00:26:52everything uh but i he would not be top of mind top of list for me but i would assume
00:27:00if if and when
00:27:01he gets fully healthy if we're assuming the tigers are sellers i'm going to talk tarik scuble glaber
00:27:07torres is a free agent at the end of the year they'll be talking glaber torres and there'll be
00:27:11some because every team needs offense somebody out there will trade for glaber torres right you would
00:27:18think you would think that um look right now it's a matter of the yankees are playing that game right
00:27:23now of waiting for someone like a john carlistan to come back does dominguez come back anytime soon to
00:27:28add more uh speed and ability to get on base and make some more damage when stan comes back the
00:27:33swing and miss goes up swing and miss goes up i know it's but the danger quote again as somebody
00:27:39who
00:27:39talks to lots of people in the game the one thing to keep in mind is when stanton plays and
00:27:46you have
00:27:48rice if rice is going to be a really good hitter which i think we even with the recent struggles
00:27:53i think
00:27:53we think he's going to be a really good hitter people talk all the time about the idea of when
00:27:59you play against the yankees you do begin the game saying crap we have to figure out how to get
00:28:04judge
00:28:04and stanton out 10 times today without them doing damage now the reality is those guys could strike
00:28:11out eight times combined and still win the game with damage right and that's and this is the game the
00:28:16the yankees you know like
00:28:22you know if you're a football team sometimes you're good at both running and passing sometimes
00:28:27you're not and you got to figure out how to win not do the yankees are not good at something
00:28:32they're
00:28:32not going to be a high average team with low strikeouts um they're going to be a team that parks
00:28:38it over the fence and traditionally over 162 games it's casino baseball if you do it over 200 times which
00:28:46again i think the yankees will do this year you will score enough runs that if you also prevent runs
00:28:52and i think the yankees will be good at preventing runs in general because their starting pitching is
00:28:57so good that you'll win enough games to get into the tournament all right so here's my one name i
00:29:03want
00:29:03to throw at you before we move on to the next thing we've been doing some some homework there while
00:29:07i was talking yes uh because this guy i've fallen in love with since his tampa bay days and he's
00:29:12currently a houston astro would the astros ever decide to sell one joel and then two
00:29:19isak paredes who could play third base for you if you decide to really you know realize that mcmahon
00:29:25is not going to be an everyday third baseman for you solution wise it's a legit guy uh the astros
00:29:32have
00:29:32played a lot better recently including throwing a no hitter yesterday against the incredibly
00:29:36disappointed texas rangers uh their owner jim crane has gone on record as saying there will never be a
00:29:43rebuild here so i think that that team if given any reason to not sell in july and early on
00:29:51the trade
00:29:51deadlines august 3rd this year uh we'll try to find reasons not to do so the american league west
00:29:58essentially sucks the whole american league stinks right now there's like no one the tigers are 10
00:30:07good days away from feeling like they're reconnected to like not having to trade scoobal that middle
00:30:15ground it's just it's not it's a it's the yankees and the rays it's not even a middle ground it's
00:30:21subterranean like the other two teams that are above are the uh and cleveland guardians the guardians are
00:30:26pretty good that has been pretty good but then like then nobody else is like above more than a
00:30:32game above 500 and you know you got to find three other playoff teams and a team like houston which
00:30:39has
00:30:39great ambitions every year is going to go a long time before giving up having said that if they give
00:30:45up uh paredes who can't be a free agent until after 2027 is going to be a guy who will
00:30:52be in demand
00:30:53around the sport not a great defender just so you know i know i know but we're talking about
00:31:00offense here right so that's like something like yeah and and and the question is where how much out
00:31:05of balance are the yankees willing to get you know you mentioned glaber tourism paredes uh we know that
00:31:11one of the reasons the yankees didn't win the world series in 24 is they were bad on defense
00:31:14and so it's like like you don't want to get so out of balance because you you could lose a
00:31:20close game
00:31:20because you didn't hit enough you could also lose a close game because you oh laid a ball that you
00:31:26shouldn't know laid you didn't cover first base uh yeah mind you i don't want to replace both spots
00:31:32but it's just one of the one of the other like i would say like if they could address second
00:31:37like
00:31:37you mean short or third or you're including second because like i i would only replace second if chisholm
00:31:46is traded chisholm is traded i would not because i am not making third base a bad position again
00:31:52because i'm going to assume max freed is returning and you have rodon now and there's as we saw last
00:31:58year mcmahon really helped late in the season there's a lot of ground balls to that side of the
00:32:03field when rodon and especially freed start and i'm not turning it back into a freak show with a guy
00:32:09who shouldn't be there totally understand so like i'll i'll i'll take on a different second
00:32:14basement a different type of player but that means josh chisholm has to be on a different team right
00:32:19they don't have to they don't have to put him out uh all right joel i want to move over
00:32:22to real or
00:32:23unreal uh we saw another great start from ryan weathers on sunday he is now pitching to a 314 era
00:32:31he has a 1.2 f war uh already early on this season this guy continues to get zero run
00:32:38support believe
00:32:39or not i think this is third time he's gotten zero run support uh as a starter this year but
00:32:44he
00:32:44continues to make an impressive i would call it not debut but just audition for this rotation for
00:32:51the yanks he continues to put together a really good resume real or unreal what we're seeing for
00:32:56ryan weathers i know you talked about him a ton this offseason what they believed in him
00:33:00is this what they expected from him yeah i mean where where does the line form for like the yankee
00:33:08stand stood pat where's that group where is that group i heard a lot in the offseason and one of
00:33:16the things i kept saying is i'm telling you i talked to lots of people like there were like five
00:33:21to eight
00:33:22teams trying like hell to get ryan weathers including the other new york team like like they
00:33:27really this was a very in-demand piece of clay because people saw the potential upside
00:33:33of the player uh that there was a lot there that wasn't fully realized uh with the marlins
00:33:41uh and that there were multiple years of control left and you could obviously see this stuff is
00:33:46from the left side another left-hander by the way you want to have a good third baseman for
00:33:51uh uh you know the stuff is special uh and so far it's been good the caution with him is
00:34:02this guy
00:34:02has never thrown a hundred innings in a major league season he's at 57 right now you know at some
00:34:09point
00:34:09we're going to start mounting now the question is uh and he's had lots of injury problems in his career
00:34:15for a young player uh and so uh i think the yankees are trying very very hard to be cautious
00:34:24with him
00:34:25rodan cole i mean you know freed is a work horse until he's not this position gets hurt the yankees
00:34:34will be blessed if they have limited other injuries in this area as it goes along i know he's kind
00:34:40of
00:34:40mainly forgotten now but louise heel got hurt you know and he was going to be part of their depth
00:34:44here
00:34:44you can't take too many of them and the yankees have more depth than just about anybody uh but uh
00:34:51that is right now a very good trade for the yankees weathers is pitching like like a high-end
00:34:57three a number two something like that the comparison at the state of his career and stuff
00:35:04where he got him the i wrote in the offseason reminded me very much because he came from miami
00:35:09also nathan avaldi when the yankees got him and avaldi i believe went 18 and three for the yankees that
00:35:15first year uh with them he was never great great and then got hurt and wasn't the same but he
00:35:21was
00:35:21pretty darn good for that for that first year with the yankees and this felt like a moment that if
00:35:26he
00:35:26was going to ever break out weathers who was i believe a seventh pick in the draft it's not like
00:35:32this was not this is a player that lots of people have believed in over the course of both his
00:35:37amateur
00:35:38minor league and major league career and good for the yankees for finding a way to him
00:35:44at a time there was a lot of screams you know look we we don't learn lessons
00:35:52we're a species that generally doesn't learn lessons uh there was always what's always going
00:35:59to be screamed for is the well-known expensive thing in the offseason right now the best free agent
00:36:08pitcher who was signed in the offseason is nick martinez i saw you who signed a one-year 12 million
00:36:14dollar contract with the rays trust me the day the rays signed them no matter yankee fan said how
00:36:19the hell did you let that happen and believe me if there are such a thing as tampa bay ray
00:36:24fans
00:36:24they weren't screaming in happiness the best player acquired in a trade in the offseason pitch
00:36:33was not ryan weathers though he's good it was kyle harrison by the milwaukee brewers and again the day
00:36:41the trade was made and they traded caleb durbin to the red sox for kyle harrison by the way shane
00:36:47rowan who's pitching really well out of their bullpen and david hamilton who's essentially just
00:36:51caleb durbin because he could defend and run uh and play multiple positions so that the the red sox
00:36:59essentially gave two play two really good young pitchers to the to the brewers for some reason i'm
00:37:05not exactly sure what the red sox plan is by the way if yankee fans if if the person in
00:37:10charge of
00:37:10your baseball operations did did half of what the people in charge of the red sox group have done
00:37:16over the last three four years uh i think you might storm yankee stadium but uh uh the the point
00:37:23is like
00:37:24like sometimes i i know what we want to scream in the offseason is go get the big guy uh
00:37:30and
00:37:30sometimes you need to get the big guy sometimes you need to get gary cole sometimes you need to
00:37:34get max freed and you jump out you do that but like these it doesn't always
00:37:42translate and weathers was one of those guys where i let the industry talk to me and the industry was
00:37:48saying there's lots of people trying to get ryan weathers if you remember they were they they had
00:37:53weathers and edward cabrera the marlins they traded them both and lots and lots of the yankees were in
00:37:58on edward cabrera also uh who's generally been good for the cubs i think he's hurt now it's just it's
00:38:06generally a uh thought though of about what the what if right we don't know when max freed's coming
00:38:12back we heard boone's comments yesterday about you know he's he's playing catch but there's no ramp up
00:38:17and there still won't be a ramp up until you know he further goes down the line of rest and
00:38:22rehab so
00:38:23if and when they get to that point of max freed nearing his return does someone like a weathers
00:38:29stuff play up in the bullpen or do you just not want to mess a good thing injuries let's say
00:38:34there's
00:38:34no injuries to ryan weathers or will warren or any of these other big horses like how does that play
00:38:39out like how do you have that conversation it's gonna answer it ryan it's gonna answer itself you
00:38:44don't want me to do injuries or performance but like at some point weathers or uh warren won't
00:38:51pitch as well or they'll get hurt or rodan will get re-hurt or cole will say i need a
00:38:55little break
00:38:56i'm not as strong as i thought i was going to be post like we're playing the game a month
00:39:01from now
00:39:01like like let's say max freed max freed hasn't thrown a ball in real earnest for a little bit now
00:39:08so
00:39:09i would say the earliest you're going to see him is like july 1st at this point right like we're
00:39:14almost to june right so like if you said to the yankees hey would you sign up for july 1st
00:39:19for
00:39:19max freed they go where do we sign first day after the all-star break where do we sign like
00:39:24what we
00:39:24need is max freed back in full to run the rest of the race and pitch in the postseason the
00:39:30chances
00:39:30that the yankees get from here to july 1st or the all-star break without this thing declaring itself
00:39:37on how he gets back in the more pressing issue will be do they ever solve the relief thing
00:39:46internally look look internally right like i'll tell you a name it's come up a little if you like
00:39:53follow the yankees but it is a guy they're very excited about is the eric roselman guy uh in the
00:40:00minor leagues i'm assuming the next time there's a chance that he'll be in play uh for that uh they
00:40:09did not seem i know that yovani cruz had a good one and a not so good one in his
00:40:14short term like
00:40:15they didn't seem as like gung-ho like let's get yovani cruz here uh as some of the numbers in
00:40:22triple
00:40:22a would suggest i think that his walk rate stuff concerns them his injury history concerned them
00:40:28so like is there some improving look i i think no matter what they do internally
00:40:35that they're going to make a trade or trades for relief pitchers and turn at least one starter
00:40:42and that starter could be carlos lagrange into a reliever there's going to i think the example i used
00:40:49was in 2018 the brewers used brandon woodruff and corbin burns and ultimately freddie peralta
00:40:57all rookie starters in the bullpen at some point peralta was mainly a starter he's used in the
00:41:03bullpen in the postseason woodruff was kind of like a hybrid guy he was opening he was pitching
00:41:09wrong whatever but burns is the guy who uses the example for lagrange if they go this way which was
00:41:15burns remained a starter in the minor leagues and a well-thought-of prospect at about the level
00:41:21lagrange is now until mid-june in mid-june they say okay we feel good enough that we're not going
00:41:28to
00:41:28need protection with the with this player that we have enough depth let's we we can now say we're
00:41:36thinking big picture get in the playoffs then do damage in the playoffs uh burn spent about three or
00:41:43so three three plus weeks in the minors working in relief to show he can do it bounce back etc
00:41:50was
00:41:51brought up and made 30 appearances from about mid-season on to close the year was one of the
00:41:59best relief pitchers in baseball for those you know that half season and then was a big factor in the
00:42:04postseason i think if the yankees can follow that pathway with lagrange i think that that's a script
00:42:10that feels very without and by the way nobody again i know aggregators go crazy nobody from the
00:42:18yankees has told me that that's just i've covered enough baseball i was looking for something that
00:42:23looked like what the yankees could do with a prospect at about the level of lagrange and with
00:42:28his stuff and when you think about like what kind of stuff would they want how about 102 103 out
00:42:34of the
00:42:35bullpen for late in the game to attack certain things if they by the way that's a long way from
00:42:40here to there lagrange has to a prove he can pitch an inning at a time he has to prove
00:42:46that he could
00:42:47come back a day or two after doing it one time to be valuable to continue to do it can't
00:42:52be like you
00:42:53can pitch an inning or two on tuesday and not pitch again until the following tuesday you got to be
00:42:58able
00:42:58to come back a few times in a week uh which is why i think they're going to have to
00:43:02give them some
00:43:03runway in the minor leagues if they're going to do it but if i were thinking about someone who
00:43:08definitely ends up in their bullpen that's somebody with health and showing he can do it
00:43:14will end up in their bullpen makes sense uh there's no similarity there between him and java right like
00:43:20i mean i know java started as a starter and then worked his way into a relief pitcher
00:43:25yeah i mean a little bit maybe batanzas also just because of the size yeah batanzas minor league
00:43:30starter but by this point batanzas's inability to repeat delivery and throw strikes had kind of
00:43:39defined that he was going to be in the bullpen i think that lagrange has looked at as this much
00:43:44superior athlete internally with the yankees to batanzas because when i brought up the comparison
00:43:50they say he'll be a much better strike thrower than batanzas so i think they don't want to give up
00:43:56the starting thing with him the way they did ultimately with uh with both to some degree
00:44:03java and fully with batanzas uh having said that you know burns made 30 relief uh regular season
00:44:10relief appearances in 18 and then became one of the best starting pitchers in baseball starting in 19
00:44:15yeah so like like like putting them in the bullpen for the rest of this year does not preclude the
00:44:20yankees from being like well he's still to 120 innings this year between the two roles minors
00:44:26and major leagues he's now ready to go to spring training next year and compete for a job makes
00:44:31sense joel uh all right let's wrap up joel uh joel's notebook i had asked you before the show
00:44:36to think about you know the 99 year obviously with the knicks uh that's the last time they made the
00:44:41nba finals but you had something else on the mind to hear about comparisons but talk to me about
00:44:46the fact that this city and the even though there's yankees and mets baseball going on
00:44:50this knicks this city is being taken over by knicks fans right now and it's just an incredible
00:44:55thing to see so i just want to hear your thoughts about it yeah oh look i i'm going to
00:45:01read you a
00:45:01text i wrote to our bosses this morning because like uh i i'm not uh naive i understand that i'm
00:45:09covering baseball but that the mind of sports new york is on a different sport and a different
00:45:15team and i know also the knicks are about to not play for a week now or so i think
00:45:21eight days until
00:45:22they play again and i kind of said hey if you need content i've been beating my brain for a
00:45:27like have
00:45:29i seen anything like this run 11 and 0 in the postseason and so i sent this uh to our
00:45:37our esteemed
00:45:38bosses i said was trying to think if i've seen anything like this and the closest to me is not
00:45:44the
00:45:441998 yankees really but the 19 but the 1999 yankees which by the way is the last time the
00:45:51knicks went to the finals is 1999 the 1999 yankees went 11 and 1 in the postseason
00:45:59in the uh they beat texas three straight to open by a combined 14 to 1 so blowouts every game
00:46:07like
00:46:08we're watching uh and won the world series in four straight over atlanta by a combined 21 to 9
00:46:15i don't include the alcs because the one game they lost that october was 15 to 1 to boston but
00:46:24that was
00:46:25the only game they lost in that series in the alcs and all postseason but it distorted the run scoring
00:46:32differential like the knicks have and the yankees had otherwise outside that 15 to 1 game the yankees
00:46:37were winning big i said um but then they but after losing 15 to 1 they finished the postseason by
00:46:46winning their next six games to close out a championship a combined 36 to 12 they won the
00:46:52last six games the closest to game one of knicks calves was game three of the world series they
00:47:01trailed five to one midway through the game and slowly came all the way back to force extra innings
00:47:09over time and won the game to go up three to nothing and what you can feel at that moment
00:47:16as good a team
00:47:17as the braves had been was the braves let go of the ropes and game four was a formality as
00:47:24opposed
00:47:24to an actual game everyone understood the yankees were going to win the world series and win it that
00:47:30night including the other team and so i said that was the one that to me in all the time
00:47:37i was trying
00:47:37to think about you know even those good blue jay teams that went back to back that i covered uh
00:47:43but
00:47:43weren't as dominant as this in the the closest and i've always made the point i think i've done it
00:47:48on this show so the 98 yankees went 114 games uh but i think by winning 114 games they felt
00:47:57this
00:47:57incredible pressure in the postseason to justify setting the record for wins i think it was just
00:48:03the american league record i think it was most wins but not highest winning percentage but it was
00:48:08one or the other uh and remember they go down two to one to cleveland cleveland it's a little bit
00:48:15like
00:48:15going two to one to atlanta and then and then uh el duque pitches a great game and the yankees
00:48:22don't
00:48:22lose another postseason game that year but they actually lost twice in the postseason that year
00:48:27the 99 team i thought was at least as talented as the 98 team but in a way said let's
00:48:35not win 114 games
00:48:37because it puts extra pressure i think they won 98 they won the division easily you know like they
00:48:42knew they were good if not great they're in the middle of a dynasty and then they just put the
00:48:49foot
00:48:49on the gas pedal in the postseason and went 11 and 1 and the the division series uh the the
00:48:58um first
00:48:58round uh yeah the division series was just they used to beat the rangers in the playoffs every time
00:49:03it was just so non it was just understood that texas would not win a game and then the braves
00:49:13lost two in atlanta and have the yankees on the ropes in new york like oh we're gonna get back
00:49:20in
00:49:20the series they're winning late winning late and i forget the order i think both chuck knoblock and
00:49:26chad curtis hit huge huge home runs curtis might have hit a walk-off to win that that that game
00:49:31uh uh because if i remember there was the controversy a lot of players didn't like how
00:49:38jim gray had interviewed pete rose and he was the sideline reporter and he tried to interview chad
00:49:45curtis on live television afterwards and curtis came up and essentially began to talk and then said
00:49:52for pete i'm not talking to you and walked away now chad curtis was a bad guy i think chad
00:49:57curtis is
00:49:58in prison right now uh but uh uh but i do remember that uh is i'm almost sure did you
00:50:07did chad curtis
00:50:08hit a walk-off homer to win game three i'm checking right now this is the alds right uh and
00:50:13uh no the
00:50:15world so the world series okay the world series against atlanta this they won the first two games
00:50:20i think in atlanta and came back and they were losing like five to one midway through and they kind
00:50:25of like started chip chip chipping away hitting home runs by the way even the 1999 yankees needed
00:50:31to do it to get back in i i think knob block hit a big one and i think chad
00:50:34curtis might hit two
00:50:36including a walk-off curtis hit two home runs in that game so you're spot on in that one and
00:50:41then
00:50:41he hits the walk-off in the 10th inning knob block hit the uh home run in the eighth with
00:50:46one on to tie
00:50:47the score to tie the score yep they were down two so yeah uh anyway that 11 and one run
00:50:55like like
00:50:56because cleveland was so good in 98 i mean the yankees were historic but cleveland was really
00:51:05really good when the yankees went down two to one to cleveland and you felt all this pressure around
00:51:11the yankees because they had won 114 games there was a moment where you were like wow they might
00:51:17actually blow this and not win in the 1999 postseason there was not one second where you thought anyone
00:51:25would win the world series except for the yankees it's it's now part of it it was just like they
00:51:31were
00:51:31clearly so much better than everyone else they played and those guys were all now championship tested
00:51:38and big games brought out the best in many of them and they didn't blink like they that was
00:51:46that was as close as i felt to like what and even now as someone who watches i think you
00:51:53know i love
00:51:54the nba i watch a ton of nba i still can't believe when i watch what the knicks are doing
00:51:59it's because
00:52:00i'm not sure there's a precedent for like being a really really good regular season team and i think
00:52:08the knicks were a lot better in the second half of the season than people realized and maybe
00:52:12you know like can i make one more comparison look we we do this show every week we put out
00:52:18a newspaper
00:52:19every day so content is needed to feed the beast so we're going to talk about on this show let's
00:52:27talk
00:52:27about like the things the yankees don't do well my suspicion is the yankees will win 90 something games
00:52:33and probably win the al east and be among the handful of teams that has a chance to win the
00:52:38world series like i dare say if we went back and like checked out what everybody was writing and
00:52:45saying about the knicks at about an equivalent point of their season to where the yankees are now
00:52:50especially that january post uh when they played the cup swoon it was like how many people even even as
00:52:58recently as the hawk series were like oh they wasted their time and draft picks on mikhail bridges and
00:53:06like if they could reverse the town's trade should they do that and it turns out look this starting
00:53:12five doesn't really make sense and now it's the best starting five since the knicks won the
00:53:16championships in 69 and 73 for the history of the franchise look we're going to say a lot of dumb
00:53:22things about the mets and yankees and baseball over time i just offer it as like i i do try
00:53:30on this show
00:53:30and in my column to offer some perspective that we don't have all the answers and sometimes screaming
00:53:36isn't the right thing to do uh that like when aaron judge goes 11 games without an rbi the reality
00:53:44is
00:53:44probably sometime soon he's about to go on a tear because until the day at some point he won't be
00:53:49aaron
00:53:49judge but right now he is aaron judge so he's probably going to hit 50 plus homers and uh be
00:53:55in
00:53:55play for the mvp uh because he's that good i think the yankees because of the starting pitching are
00:54:00really good um hey we got cam schlittler going tonight it's always a holiday when cam schlittler
00:54:06pitches look i thought i uh you know eight weeks ago i thought the mets were going to be good
00:54:11you know you get fooled uh also um i thought you know they've taken on some injury but i never
00:54:19thought it was going to get this bad around the mets um and in some ways again most yankee fans
00:54:25won't care for this the mets inability to sustain even while spending should encourage yankee fans
00:54:32that like wow this has been an unbelievable 35 years because like like sometimes their version of
00:54:39juan soto and francisco lindor have gotten hurt sometimes they've had versions of signing the wrong
00:54:45carl provano or jared right or trading for the wrong jeff weaver or you know fill in the blank
00:54:52jacoby ellsbury brian mccann jacoby elda like but over 35 years now 35 years in a city where like the
00:55:01knicks are usually terrible most of these teams are terrible the yankees are in contention for 35
00:55:07straight years it's really impressive it is it is and it's but i understand the beast that is getting
00:55:15fed and why it is done i still think we should every once in a while taking deep breath because
00:55:24like when like the last two days the yankees could have lost those games and you would have been in
00:55:29a
00:55:30different mood and we would have done a different show i wouldn't have yelled but i would have been
00:55:33very very hot under the collar and anthony volpe could have struck out we'd be seeing different
00:55:38things about anthony volpe and every once in a while you do have to ryan try to look at this
00:55:42thing
00:55:42from 10 000 feet and say like compared to 30 29 other teams where are the yankees probably not as
00:55:51good
00:55:51as the dodgers but probably at least as good as or better than everybody else and in a seven game
00:55:59series against the dodgers because the yankees have starting pitching and you don't know what
00:56:03else they might add i would give them a punch i would give them whatever puncher's chance in a
00:56:08seven game series against the dodgers that i would give the knicks against oklahoma city
00:56:14because all the spurs uh well i think that people think that oklahoma city's the oklahoma city like the
00:56:20dodgers are the defending champs so i'm talking about yeah i'm trying to make it 100 100 you know
00:56:25like oklahoma city's going to be favorite if it's them the spurs are probably going to be favored
00:56:29if it's them uh but the knicks have done enough with their starting five the yankees starting five
00:56:35rotation is probably it's a long way from now but if that stays healthy it's going to give them a
00:56:41puncher's chance against anyone no matter how bad their offense looks at any point uh that being said
00:56:48they need to be better on offense and they need to be better in the bullpen and they've got three
00:56:52you know two-thirds of a season for that to happen before the postseason really it's this third
00:56:58like they have to fix it in this third both internally and externally by either some of the
00:57:05guys getting better calling up guys changing jobs of some starters and reaching outside the organization
00:57:12and making good trades their history is outside of like clay homes and if you want to like zach
00:57:19britain maybe david robertson had a moment in his return like they've done some good ones but there's
00:57:25a lot of bad yankee trades for relief pitchers over say the last 10 or 15 years this is a
00:57:31year they're
00:57:31good enough to win they're going to have to hit it making a trade or two probably from outside and
00:57:37still find some inside stuff because that to me the bullpen the offense is not as big a problem as
00:57:43the
00:57:43bullpen damn joel you're saving your best stuff for the end here i just want to keep talking to you
00:57:48about yankees baseball joel sherman i think we just want to keep talking about the knicks that's
00:57:53what you want that's true too but i i will say this what's so great about this and doing this
00:57:57show
00:57:58with you is like you try to give us that 10 000 foot view and and explain to a lot
00:58:03of yankees fans
00:58:04it's not the end of the world but i think what you just said is probably something that's going to
00:58:08resonate with a lot of fans and i'm going to make this a social cut this third of the season
00:58:12is the
00:58:12most important because it's that june swoon that's coming and we need to know if another june swoon's
00:58:17coming or if the yankees are going to rise above this and the recent struggles that they're having
00:58:21and like you said are certain guys going to step up and can that rotation continue to be a strength
00:58:26for this team that carries them through this next month until they get those reinforcements for the
00:58:30bullpen we're going to see man yeah you know and and and it's it's this third because the third the
00:58:36third literally ends with the trade deadline yeah so like you run out of time to fix it from outside
00:58:43and you're going to run out of calendar to fix it from inside so during this third is when you're
00:58:49going to have to like look at each other and go is now the time to press that button on
00:58:53lagran hay
00:58:54is now the time to press the button on weathers or or warren in the bullpen or call up reiselman
00:59:01and
00:59:02see like all the things we like about him at triple a would we like about him in the majors
00:59:08you know or get one of the guys you know can you get jake burt to stop hanging sliders i
00:59:13would doubt
00:59:13it uh like he just does it too often but if you're gonna and you're gonna have belief of using
00:59:20him in
00:59:20a big spot you got about a third of a season uh to do it you know a third of
00:59:24a season to figure out
00:59:25like can you get the best out of deval again i wouldn't believe in that uh i think they're going
00:59:31to have to change starters to relievers and make two trades joel sherman we appreciate always hopping
00:59:37on here we'll catch you next week to talk more yankees baseball uh and i'm sure we're going to
00:59:41see some nick stuff from you as well as always i appreciate the time you're out but the caro beat
00:59:46me to the 99 yankees this morning and even though i sent my text message without knowing what he's
00:59:52doing so i got to figure another way in we'll get an angle for you i'll try something joel sherman
00:59:58we'll talk to you later thanks man all the best
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