00:00Because I'm going to take you briefly to where the action is.
00:02And the action is right now at Lok Bhawan, very close to from where I am standing.
00:08Vijay is inside, lock in conversation with the governor.
00:14Let's cut across and get the latest visuals coming in.
00:17Akshita, over to you.
00:19For the first pictures that come in right now, as Vijay has just made his way out of the Lok
00:25Bhawan.
00:26He's made his way outside after a brief meeting, just about five minutes.
00:30Meeting with the governor, much like what we saw two days ago.
00:33The agenda was very, very clear that he would have to go ahead and submit a letter seeking support.
00:38And that's about it.
00:39He submitted that letter.
00:41He's directing me.
00:41He doesn't know his ass from his elbow.
00:43Can I get some?
00:44And as we get you those live updates.
00:47What are you talking about?
00:49Preeti?
00:52Okay, we're going to.
00:54Okay, Preeti, I'll just quickly give you another update that's coming in right now.
00:57On the numbers that we have.
00:59At this point, we are hearing it's 118.
01:03There's a possibility though of that number going up as well.
01:07We are hearing that there are a few others who are extending their support to Vijay.
01:12But don't expect a big jump really.
01:14It could be just a question of one or two.
01:17But right now here at the Lok Bhavan, Vijay has handed over that letter.
01:21We're waiting.
01:22We're waiting for the first pictures of Vijay meeting with Governor Arnekar and the big takeaway.
01:27You know, two days ago when he met with the governor, we said this is history in the making.
01:32He came to form the government.
01:33Now, at this point, with the situation as is, we're going to wait for the governor to give that final
01:39nod
01:39and say Vijay is truly the talapati of Tamil Nadu, is the CMLL.
01:44So, we're standing by for those first pictures.
01:46We're still waiting for a confirmation on the numbers, Preeti.
01:48At this point, it looks like it's 118.
01:51Okay.
01:51If he gets maybe one or two more additional bonus essentially from what he's received.
01:56Okay.
01:56Let's ask...
01:59Akshita, let's ask Manikam Tagore.
02:01Let's ask Manikam Tagore.
02:02Manikam Tagore, first up, big news there.
02:04You know, of what most of the Congress was saying that the DMK is trying to get into a truck
02:10in an alliance with the BJP and the AIDMK.
02:13One of your allies has said that yes, that in fact was true.
02:18And there was also pressure on the left parties to do the same, Manikam Tagore.
02:24It is very surprising and very shocking also to hear this fact from a senior leader like
02:37Mr. Baby, who is the general secretary of the CPM.
02:41And we are...
02:43Because that was not discussed with Congress.
02:45Because by that time, we had joined with the TBK and we are not part of the discussion itself.
02:54All right, Mr. Tagore.
02:56You know, you're being quite kind.
02:57You were quite angry yesterday, especially where the DMK was concerned.
03:01I want to cut across right now to Suman C. Raman, who's joining us.
03:05He's been closely watching all developments, Akshita.
03:07While we also have our eyes at Lok Bhawan, where Vijay would be coming out anytime.
03:12What is the support looking like?
03:14How many numbers he has?
03:16But viewers, that's the beauty of politics.
03:18Once you can stake claim, once you take oaths, numbers, quite a few automatically come to you.
03:25You know, that's old school politics.
03:27You have to stake claim, numbers will come.
03:29But Suman C. Raman, dramatic developments.
03:31You had none else but one of the allies of the DMK exposed the DMK
03:36and say the DMK was pressurizing us also to support AIDMK.
03:41So, Preeti, this was an open secret.
03:44I mean, this was not a top secret move.
03:47Everybody knew about it for the last two days.
03:49That's point number one.
03:50Point number two, I do not know if Mr. Baby is aware that his state unit secretary
03:57actually said that they have not left the DMK alliance.
04:00They say that they are with the DMK on all issues of public interest.
04:05So, how does this work?
04:06I mean, it is a most bizarre situation that I have come across where a party says they are leaving.
04:13They ostensibly have left the DMK alliance.
04:16But they say that, no, no, we are, our journey with the DMK shall continue.
04:21That is exactly the words that he has used.
04:23And now he says we are only supporting this government from the outside.
04:27This is what Mr. Stalin wanted to be done.
04:31He has also said that the TVK form a government.
04:33So, I am completely clueless as to what this approach actually means.
04:40These parties, please ask Akshita or any of your team to ask these parties,
04:47have you left the DMK alliance?
04:49Mr. Shanmugam and Mr. Veerabandian, the CPI and CPM state secretaries,
04:55were categorical about it.
04:57We continue to our journey with the DMK.
05:00This is the exact statement.
05:02So, now which alliance are they part of?
05:05Or who has, and they were very clear.
05:08They said Mr. Stalin wanted this government to be formed.
05:12I don't know how this works, Preeti,
05:15but I think this is basically the DMK having asked its allies
05:20to prop up this government as long as they deem it necessary.
05:24And right now it looks awkward for the DMK
05:27because they don't have the numbers to stake any kind of claim.
05:30And supporting the AIA-DMK would look even worse.
05:33So, I think that they decided that, you know,
05:36let's prop up the TVK for some time and see what happens.
05:38So, that is really what this decision is all about.
05:42And Vijay may be sworn in tomorrow.
05:44Well, right now the word coming in from…
05:46Literally, he holds office at the pleasure of Mr. Stalin.
05:49Right now the word coming in from the left is…
05:52Right, right, right.
05:54But right now the word coming in, Mr. Subhansi Raman,
05:56is at least from the left that the DMK wanted to go all in with the AIA-DMK.
06:01Optics-wise it doesn't make the DMK look good.
06:04But Mr. Subhansi Raman,
06:05I'm going to go back to the visuals that are coming in from Lok Bhavan.
06:08Let's go full frame with that.
06:10A sense, you know, of excitement,
06:13all the anxiety, the suspended animation ends
06:16and now finally things are moving.
06:19And now they are moving quick.
06:20Either they don't move, when they start moving,
06:22they are moving quick.
06:24Vijay, on his letter, has at least 118.
06:26And it seems more will also be joining in.
06:30That IUML that wanted to stick with the DMK,
06:33also seemingly now in the kitty of TVK Vijay.
06:44IUML will be persuaded
06:46because I think if the DMK is sending CPI, CPM and VCK,
06:51why single out IUML?
06:52Because IUML very categorically said
06:54they will not support day before yesterday.
06:56So if they might have gone back to Mr. Stalin
06:59and said, look, you are allowing all the others to go,
07:02why can't we also go with them?
07:03So that could be, but they've clarified,
07:05the CPI, CPM have categorically said
07:07this is outside support
07:09and it is not, they will not be part of the government.
07:11And they've also said
07:12they're not forming an alliance with the TVK.
07:15So this will be a TVK government only.
07:18This is not going to be a coalition government.
07:20In the next two or three days,
07:22whether we want to be a part of the governance
07:23or we want to support it from outside.
07:26I want to bring in,
07:27I believe we have Mr. Manikam Tagore back with us.
07:29I want to bring him back.
07:30Manikam Tagore, the question that I want to ask you,
07:33usually the Congress drags its feet.
07:35There was some kind of urgency within the Congress
07:38to make sure that this is settled,
07:41that your alliance with the TVK
07:43actually reaches a fruition,
07:45which is government formation.
07:46What made Mr. Malikarjun Karge pick up the phone
07:49and call the chief of VCK
07:52and request him to do the politically ethical thing
07:55if there is anything called being politically ethical?
07:59No, we had been,
08:00we had,
08:01after Mr. Vijay spoke to
08:05Karge Saab and Rahul Gandhiji
08:06and when he asked for the support
08:08to form the formation of government,
08:11our leadership also,
08:12Karge Saab has been
08:13in line with all other parties also
08:16from the national level also.
08:18They had been speaking to the leaders
08:19and we are requesting that
08:21we should put a secular government
08:22in Tamil Nadu
08:23because we should not allow
08:24BJP,
08:25which is reduced to only one MLA,
08:27should not get into the,
08:29some government
08:29and start ruling the state.
08:31Therefore,
08:31only we had been putting effort
08:32for a secular government
08:34and we are able to reach to that level of,
08:37now we are short of one MLA
08:38and we hope that
08:40that will also be,
08:41come in the day,
08:42in the course of the day
08:44as we are,
08:45our partners,
08:45three partners are also,
08:47we have been approaching to them,
08:48talking to them democratically
08:49and we have been saying that
08:51the need for a secular government
08:52in Tamil Nadu
08:53is important for us.
08:59All right,
08:59you know,
08:59I want to ask you one quick question,
09:01Mr. Tagore,
09:01before I let you go.
09:02You don't just have a razor thin majority,
09:05you have the exact number.
09:07What makes you think
09:08that numbers as slim as this,
09:10usually a Tamil Nadu
09:11assembly should have
09:12upwards of 25,
09:13if not upwards of 230.
09:16What makes you think
09:17your government
09:17is going to survive, sir?
09:20Yes, it will
09:21because it's,
09:22people have voted for Mr. Vijay
09:24and for TVK,
09:26for change and hope election.
09:28You are in the ground,
09:29you will see that
09:30how much support for Mr. Vijay
09:32and the TVK
09:32is there in the ground.
09:33There is a lot of hope
09:34in every Tamil
09:37voter's mind
09:38that something is going to change
09:39and therefore,
09:40it's a change election.
09:41Therefore,
09:41we hope that
09:42all those promises,
09:44whatever promises
09:46we are able to,
09:47what we have given it,
09:49we will be able to fulfill it
09:50with the government
09:51with Mr. Vijay
09:52as the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu.
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