00:00It's late into the night but look with a number of twists and turns we've been seeing in Tamil Nadu
00:04we're forced to be live through the night because this night could define who exactly is going to be
00:09the chief minister of Tamil Nadu. Is it going to be the TVK or not? A couple of hours ago
00:15we thought
00:15done and dusted. This is a deal that's been sealed now with Vijay going with 118 signatures
00:21but then came in another twist that the VCK's letter of support hasn't gone through to the
00:27Lok Bhavan and so Vijay's numbers right now is 116 not the majority mark of 118. So that is really
00:37the challenge for Vijay that he's too short right now. VCK had two numbers that would have brought
00:43him just to that majority mark of 118. That's the challenge that he's facing right now but what is
00:50the VCK stand? Are they going with the DMK? Are they going with the TVK? Let's get you a news
00:55break on
00:55that because we're hearing that the VCK right now is still undecided remaining non-committal.
01:01The news break coming in is that VCK in the official statement now has said that we will
01:06give clarity only tomorrow morning. Tomorrow morning is when they make the announcement which
01:10way they're going whether they're going to back the TVK as they originally stated or they're going to
01:15stick to the DMK. Some reports do suggest that Tol Turma Vallivan, VCK chief, also met with
01:21Stalin a couple of hours ago. Let's take this across to Anagar Keshav and Apoorva Jayachandran for
01:27more details. Anagar to you first on the VCK statement. We're going to have to hold our horses,
01:33wait a bit longer but what happened? Anagar what changed? You know the VCK seemed to be on board.
01:39Everyone said if the left's on board, the VCK is on board. That's the usual known phenomena in Tamil Nadu
01:44that the left and VCK are a package deal. What's happened here?
01:49In fact, you know, there was a speculation that if the left says yes, then the VCK would also follow
01:56suit. In fact, that's also what Turma Vallivan also said on record. The left said yes and then it looks
02:02like the VCK is still hesitant to give that go ahead. What we are learning is that there is a
02:08power
02:09demand on part of Turma Vallivan. Turma Vallivan wants to become the deputy chief minister. He wants
02:14that post because remember even when he was strongly going with DMK, he had asked Stalin for power sharing
02:21which was then denied. But now he thinks that this is the right time to ask Vijay and get his
02:27share of
02:27power and that has been the ask by VCK to TVK but for now the TVK has not agreed to
02:34that. It has still
02:34now remained non-committal to Turma Vallivan's demands and that is why VCK has sought some extra
02:41time until tomorrow morning. We believe that the VCK will be making its final decision. So now the ball
02:47is in TVK's court. Whether they are going to go ahead and give the demands and asks of the VCK.
02:55This discussion is going to go on throughout the night and post which tomorrow morning we'll get to hear
03:01the final verdict from Turma Vallivan. And until then we are not going to get a clarity about Vijay's
03:07oath taking. And that's also why the governor has still withheld from making it official that Vijay
03:13will be taking oath as a next chief minister. So the discussion between these two parties are still
03:19underway. By tomorrow morning we should ideally be getting a clear picture about Turma Vallivan possibly
03:25joining hands with TVK.
03:30No so you know at this point the VCK we understand has been making all kinds of demands Anaka
03:36including a demand for the deputy chief minister post. So is this just really a hard lobbying
03:44almost being used as a bargain tactic by a VCK that they have two seats without us you're nothing you
03:49can't come to power we are the king makers. Is this the VCK driving home that point with this kind
03:54of a
03:54late night twist? Well that's absolutely right. VCK does want more power and they have only two
04:01only two MLAs. If they were with DMK they would never taste power. They would just remain at the
04:07level of MLAs or possibly even a member of parliament position. That's about it. But with TVK they do have
04:13that upper hand to demand because at the end of the day it's Turma Vallivan who is getting to be
04:18the
04:18king maker. Turma Vallivan and the left parties. The left parties have budged unconditionally so but
04:23Turma Vallivan has placed this demand in front of Vijay. You either say yes to my demand or you
04:30don't get to become the chief minister of Taranadu. So it is a very tough ask because Turma Vallivan at
04:35this point has only two MLAs so we're just two legislators in hand. This is the high ask, the tall
04:41ask that Turma Vallivan has placed in front of Vijay that he should be made as the next deputy chief
04:47minister along with Vijay. Vijay is still hesitant to say yes to this matter but if he does not say
04:53yes
04:53then he cannot become the chief minister. So it really is a hard hard bargain that VCK is putting across.
05:01It's a catch 22 situation. I want to bring in Sagairaj for more details on what's happening within
05:07the VCK camp. Sagaira effectively the RUML is out. They've said we're with the DMK. The left is in.
05:13They're saying we'll provide outside support. The congress is of course a part of the government.
05:16They've said we are in an alliance with the TVK. The VCK now there's a big question mark over. If
05:21the
05:22VCK doesn't come on board, what is the option ahead then for the TVK? Is there any other party
05:27that they're reaching out to? Is there any plan B?
05:31The only option left for the TVK is the court. They've already filed a petition in the Supreme Court
05:39and probably they need to knock the door again. They have constitutional rights to go ahead
05:45and form the government with the single largest party in the state. And they have to prove on the
05:51floor of the house that they can get the majority numbers. Or else if they run out of numbers,
05:58that is the only option. Because every single day there are dramas unfolded in the state.
06:03Whether it is Congress or CTI, CPM, or now it is within the election city. So there's a clear
06:10message that not everybody is on the board. One of the other problems people are facing. And today,
06:19after a meeting with his party leaders, Krimavadavan goes to M.K. Stalin's president
06:26and thereafter, a statement released stating that they will announce their decision tomorrow.
06:31They're well aware that Vijay had visited the governor's house today. He has shared the letter,
06:38the support letter which was being given by CPI, CPM and Congress. It was the Vizalit Chakachi,
06:43which is pending. And they have also...
06:45No, so was there a VCK letter, Sagai, was there a VCK letter that was emailed to him,
06:50which he printed and gave to the Lokhbhavan? Is that true? That there were no signatures,
06:54but there was a letter that was emailed, which was sent to the Lokhbhavan, which Vijay had
06:59printed out and given to the Lokhbhavan. Is that true?
07:05No, these are the letters, but not the signature of the ameliers. The governor has categorically
07:10mentioned that you need to send a signature of the ameliers. Yeah, but that letter seeking support
07:13did go through mail. Yeah, the letter that was been actually sent was shared with the media.
07:20We have access to the letter of CPI, CPM and Congress. We seek a letter. Even if they have sent
07:27a
07:27letter to the governor, why are you not making public? When you can issue a media statement,
07:33and when you can share everything on social media, why aren't you sharing this particular letter?
07:39No. See, even TVK had to come out and give up... No, you know, the only question I have here
07:47is Vijay has gone. Vijay has gone to the governor three times now. He got it wrong the first time.
07:53Second time, the governor called him in, asked him for details. Vijay gave explanation. Governor
07:57not convinced. Third time, he's gone and again messed it up. So someone in Vijay's team is
08:02advising him very, very poorly on how this works, on what it takes to form a government. It's pretty
08:09plain and simple. You have to have 118 signatures on paper. You don't have that minus one, minus two,
08:18minus half. It doesn't count. You need 118. And someone in the TVK, outside, legal, luminary,
08:26whatever it is, is poorly advising Vijay on what it takes right now, what are the papers you need,
08:32to go ahead and form a government. This is no joke. It takes certain protocol formalities to get things
08:39in place. And for some reason, the TVK is messing this up. And now.
08:43Hello.
08:43Hello?
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