00:00The Browns getting all cranked up this weekend.
00:02Ricky Minicamp, Andy.
00:04Oh, man, I can't wait.
00:06The gentleman's going to be out there covering it.
00:08You can read all of his coverage on brownzone.com.
00:11Chronicle Telegram, he's Mr. Scott Petrack.
00:13Hello, Scott.
00:14Hey, hey.
00:15What's going on, fellas?
00:17All kinds of goodies.
00:18A lot of basketball stuff.
00:20But there's football stuff as well.
00:23Always football stuff in Cleveland, is there not?
00:26It certainly seems that way.
00:31Hey, Jeff, hang on a second.
00:33Hey, can we reestablish, Scott?
00:34Do you hear this?
00:35Oh, no.
00:36Say hello, Scott.
00:37Hi, Scott.
00:38Hi, guys.
00:38Can you hear me?
00:39Yeah, we can, but it's like something's tapping.
00:43Something's annoying, Andy.
00:44Yeah, doesn't it get you?
00:45It would annoy me if I was driving around town.
00:46I can tell you that.
00:48Why don't we regroup?
00:49Okay, so Andy's asking us to hang up on you, Scott.
00:52We'll call you right back.
00:52One second.
00:53We got your back.
00:55Scott.
00:56Scott always has good stuff to say.
00:57Yeah, I don't want to miss anything.
00:58I thought he sounded okay.
00:59I don't know.
00:59Didn't you hear that?
01:00Nope, nope, nope.
01:01Not enough to bother me.
01:03Oh, yeah.
01:03It was enough to.
01:04It was enough to bother you?
01:05Yeah, I think if you're driving around town and you're listening, you're like, I'm done.
01:08I can't.
01:08It was that annoying.
01:10Really?
01:10Yeah, it really was.
01:11And it's worse than this, what we're doing right now?
01:13No, not at all.
01:14At least we're telling people exactly what's going on.
01:16I think that's kind of fun.
01:17Knowing what's going on in the background.
01:19I'd rather be right than be right.
01:22Well, you're assuming you're right.
01:25That just sounded goofy.
01:27So, we're going to reestablish Scott Petrack on the wise heart, right?
01:32We make it right.
01:34Call Kyle Wright hotline.
01:35See, we lived up to the standards.
01:39Dan's now having trouble connecting with Scott, which pretty much sabotages the entire segment.
01:45No, they were funky on Friday, too.
01:47We had trouble on Friday.
01:48Like, there was a segment where we couldn't take any phone calls.
01:51Well, we can take him now.
01:52Here we go!
01:54Can you hear me?
01:55Yes, way better.
01:56It's gone.
01:57Whatever that was.
01:59Let's go ahead and buy it.
02:00It was like water dripping in the middle of the...
02:01How about the groundbreaking?
02:03The stadium's going to happen, huh?
02:05Yeah, that was something.
02:07You know, now we've got a long wait until the stadium opens.
02:11It's a bunch of dirt just sitting there in an open space.
02:14But it was exciting.
02:16You know, I do think it was exciting.
02:18Everybody there, the Browns are excited.
02:20Roger Goodell, Mike DeWine.
02:23And they have a big vision for this stadium, for Northeast Ohio, for what it's going to do economically.
02:31I hope they're right about all of it.
02:33And if those renderings are on point, then it's going to be something to see.
02:38And the same people did SoFi, and I was at a game at SoFi, and it's a pretty amazing facility.
02:45So I think there is reason to be excited.
02:47If you can get past the, you know, leaving downtown and leaving all the tradition, this could be something good.
02:54What else do you think we'll get other than football?
02:58Yeah, at the Super Bowl, I think that's too far off.
03:02And Roger Goodell was pretty clear about that, that the rest of the facilities around town, around the region, aren't
03:10ready yet.
03:11And, you know, we probably need to double the hotel space to host the Super Bowl.
03:15So maybe this sparks some kind of economic, you know, what, new day in Cleveland, in the Cleveland area.
03:23And all of a sudden, there's a bunch of hotels getting built, and you can think about having a Super
03:27Bowl at some point.
03:28But I do think Final Fours are realistic.
03:32Concerts, you know, WWE stuff.
03:35You know, they plan to have a ton of events at this facility year-round.
03:41So I think you're going to see a bunch of stuff there.
03:45But the biggest, I would think, would be major concerts and the Final Fours.
03:52Interesting.
03:53I think another, it's a point worth making.
03:57Every state that has a dome hosts high school football state championships in their dome.
04:05That would be interesting.
04:05But just because it's the Hall of Fame, I wonder if that would be a deterrent to having them move
04:10into that for the high school state championship.
04:11That's two guys who have endured the December football games at the Hall of Fame stadium.
04:16Yes.
04:17All for the dome.
04:17There you go.
04:19Yeah, that's interesting.
04:20I hadn't thought about that.
04:22Yeah, I mean, you can do so much right in a dome because I'm assuming it's not going to be
04:27grass.
04:27So you can do a bunch on the turf.
04:31So, yeah, that would be something out, you know, obviously it's not centrally located.
04:36You know, like, Canton's not even north.
04:39I know it's more north, but then you go up another, you know, you go up and it's another hour
04:44north.
04:45I don't even, does Cleveland even host any?
04:47Yeah, think about it.
04:48I know it's on top of the road.
04:50Do we host any other stadiums?
04:51Before I move on to the team, one last thought.
04:53When I hear them say, the commissioner in particular, yeah, we need more hotels.
05:00We need to double the hotel space for a Super Bowl and everything else.
05:04Great.
05:04So we need empty hotel rooms in Cleveland all the time so we can host one or two events.
05:10Well, no, yeah, that's the thing, Jeff.
05:12You would have to have an economic boom that generated those hotel rooms.
05:17It caused, you know, it led the way to the need for those hotel rooms.
05:24It can't just be a one-event thing.
05:26That doesn't make any sense.
05:27I agree completely, Scott.
05:28With that thought in mind, I agree completely.
05:31Rookie minicamp coming up this week.
05:32Starts on Friday.
05:34Good.
05:35What are you most looking forward to seeing?
05:37Is there any person in particular?
05:39Is there a group?
05:40What are you most curious about?
05:44Yeah, I kind of feel bad saying this because he's a six-round pick,
05:48but I want to see Taylor Greene.
05:50Yes, me too.
05:51You know, a guy that big with that kind of athleticism and that arm strength,
05:57I want to see him flinging around.
05:59I want to see him run a little bit.
06:01You know, like Spencer Fano, you're not going to be able to tell a lot from a left tackle, right?
06:05Because they're not doing a bunch of 11-on-11s.
06:09And, you know, it's just hard for a tackle in that kind of situation.
06:15But the receivers will be fun to watch.
06:17You know, both those guys, Casey Concepcion and Denzel Boston, I look forward to seeing those guys.
06:22But I want to see the quarterback that just looks like most quarterbacks don't look.
06:28It's funny.
06:29I went back and I feel the exact same way.
06:32And I went back and watched a bunch more tape on him over the weekend.
06:37And they were playing Alabama A&M.
06:40And then they were playing Arkansas State.
06:42And I went, okay, fine.
06:43You're supposed to shred these guys.
06:45And then they're playing Auburn and it looked the same.
06:49And I thought, okay, think about what you said about Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders.
06:54You don't draft quarterbacks in the third and the fifth and now certainly the sixth and think you really have
06:59your answer.
07:00But, man, he looks great on videotape, doesn't he?
07:05He looks like the entire package.
07:08He does.
07:09You know, and I went back and watched a bunch of highlights like you did.
07:12And it was a progression of the season.
07:13And so you see him playing these small schools.
07:15But then it did continue.
07:17Now you're not getting all the maybe wrong decisions.
07:20And the turnovers don't show up in the highlight tape.
07:23And I did go back and watch one whole game.
07:25And he looked pretty solid.
07:26I think it was the Ole Miss game.
07:27And I thought he looked pretty solid.
07:29Now, obviously, he needs polish.
07:31And the completion percentage isn't what it should be.
07:34And the turnovers are way too many.
07:36And, you know, can you correct those things at the NFL level?
07:39Can you correct those things without a bunch of reps in practice?
07:42And I know they're going to try to get him as many as possible.
07:45I mean, those are still legitimate questions.
07:47But there's so much to work with just physically.
07:51And then they talk about what a great worker he is and how he has developed as a passer from
07:57his early days of Boise State to when he got to Arkansas.
08:00So, you know, I do think you have to manage expectations and not even set any expectations with him early.
08:08But there's a reason to be excited, I think, just to have this guy in the building and on the
08:12field.
08:15You had another show.
08:16I'll get back to the rookies here in a minute.
08:17I'm sure we are.
08:17But DeWa Jones accepted a restructured deal for his final year of his contract.
08:23What does that mean?
08:24And what do you expect to see out of him this year, knowing what they did on the offensive line?
08:28And that's a huge pay cut for him, too.
08:30Yeah, to me, it's reduced role, reduced salary.
08:34And that's the reality of his situation.
08:36They trade for Titus Howard to play right tackle.
08:40They drive Spencer Fano, number nine, to play left tackle.
08:44That means DeWa Jones isn't going to start unless somebody gets hurt.
08:48So, his ceiling right now would be the swing tackle.
08:53And I feel like he's in front to be the swing tackle.
08:56They did draft, you know, Austin Barber in the third round.
09:00He will compete for that role.
09:02They have other veterans on the team.
09:04You know, a guy like KT, not even a veteran, but a guy like KT Levinson is coming back.
09:07He played tackles for him last year.
09:11So, it's just the reality of DeWa Jones' situation that he's been hurt too often to really establish himself
09:18and give the organization confidence that he'll be able to make it through an entire season.
09:25And maybe this is the right role for him for at least this year.
09:27He can be the swing tackle if he has to play.
09:31You know, if guys get hurt, he steps in and he can play.
09:33And if there's not the same workload on him and he can get through his season,
09:37and then whether it's here or somewhere else, he can go try to establish himself as a starter.
09:42But it makes sense if you're trying to save cash and you're trying to save salary cap space
09:46from a Browns perspective that, yeah, that's too much to pay for a, you know,
09:53whatever he is, sixth, seventh lineman on this step chart.
09:56Let's reduce it.
09:57He gets some guaranteed money.
09:58It feels like he's got a spot on this roster.
10:01But it's a step back, which I think is just where he is given his injury history in these first
10:08three years in the league.
10:10It's a great example of how fleeting things can be in the NFL, Scott.
10:16You know, as you said, 6'7", 340, whatever he is, good feet, you know, good footwork, moves well for
10:23a big guy.
10:24But you didn't produce, and you weren't on the field, and now you're on the outs, and, you know, good
10:30luck to you moving forward.
10:32It shows how tough that game can be.
10:34It does.
10:35And, you know, if somebody gets hurt, maybe he steps in and he plays great, and then the conversation changes,
10:41right?
10:41That's completely possible.
10:45But, yeah, you know, when the Browns went in this offseason committed to making over, you know,
10:50the extreme makeover of the offensive line, you didn't know how they were going to feel completely about DeJuan.
10:56Did they stop one position short and say, hey, we have DeJuan Jones.
11:00He can play one of the tackle spots.
11:02They didn't approach it that way.
11:04They felt like they needed two new tackles.
11:06And that's how I felt, too.
11:07Just because, you know, I'm not saying it's DeJuan Jones' fault.
11:10The injury last year was bad luck, you know.
11:13It actually is relatively kind of a dirty play.
11:16You know, the Packers guy went low.
11:18He winds up tearing a knee ligament, and the hamstring comes off the bone.
11:22It wasn't his fault.
11:23But when you have three straight years where you're hurt, the team just can't go into a season expecting you
11:30to play the whole,
11:31to stay healthy for the whole year.
11:33And, you know, that's just the harsh reality of this league.
11:37You get any nasty grams from Shiloh Sanders?
11:43No.
11:44Okay, good.
11:44I don't think so.
11:46Not that I know of.
11:48Yeah, I'm not a big fan.
11:49I was not a big fan of how that was handled.
11:52No.
11:53No.
11:54It just, Shidor's got enough going on.
11:57Just let him go compete and, you know, let him handle everything, right?
12:01Yeah, I mean, yeah.
12:04There's no need.
12:05Yeah, there's no need to be attacking people.
12:07And I do think it, and I, you know, hopefully Shidor's not involved in that.
12:13Yeah.
12:14Pushing that, right?
12:15And hopefully he can just stay out of it and go compete for the starting job.
12:19Because I do still think he has a chance to win this job.
12:23I mean, we've talked about it a billion times.
12:24I think it makes the most sense for him to be the starter this season.
12:29So, if that opportunity is there, then go earn it and forget about all the other stuff.
12:33I agree.
12:34Scott, thank you very much, buddy.
12:36Why am I suddenly craving a sandwich?
12:38I don't know why I'm hungry all of a sudden.
12:39Okay, thank you.
12:40Not sure what that means.
12:43Scott, thanks.
12:44Scott does.
12:45See you, fellas.
12:46See you, buddy.
12:46See you, buddy.
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