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The Washington Commanders should have plenty of options at pick 7 in the NFL Draft this year, but which direction will Adam Peters go with the pick? Commanders Reporter Mitch Tischler from Monumental Sports joins The Kevin Sheehan Show to discuss the possibilities of the Commanders trading back in the NFL Draft and whether the team will target offense or defense early in the draft.
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00:00Talking with Mitch Tischler, is there, so I've asked this question before and I've given my answer to it, but
00:07I'm not going to give it to you right now. Max has given his answer to it. So what's your
00:11answer to the following, which is what players could be there at seven that you're absolutely taking rather than accepting
00:20a decent opportunity to trade back and pick up more picks?
00:27I think the first question has to be, where are you trading back to? If you're trading back to nine,
00:32there's a number of players that...
00:35Let's just call it something that's attractive. And let's just say 11 or further. That's fair. Because a trade back
00:42to two spots isn't going to land you a second. It's going to land you maybe another third, not even
00:48a second.
00:48So let's just say to Miami or further back. That's available for you. Who are you not doing it for?
00:56There are four players I think I'm not doing that for. The two I mentioned, Arbel Reese, David Bailey, the
01:05other one, Carnell Tate, and the fourth one is Ruben Bain.
01:11And those are kind of the four guys that, you know, if one or two of those four are there,
01:16I'm sticking to making the pick.
01:19If by chance those four are gone, which certainly is a possibility, it seems like Bain should be there.
01:24But then I'd be more interested in a potential trade back.
01:28To me, there's, you know, about 10 or 12 players in this draft who I think all could fall anywhere
01:35in that range of kind of 2 to 12.
01:38So there's a little bit of flexibility in terms of where you look and, you know, where they end up
01:43going.
01:44So you're still going to get a good player if you end up at 9, 10, 11, maybe even 12.
01:49But if you start pushing further back from that, I think there's kind of a tier that drops after that
01:54point.
01:54And adding a second-round pick, if they're able to get one, certainly is attractive.
02:01But they need top-end talent, and I think you've got to stay kind of in that first 10 to
02:0512 picks to find somebody there.
02:08Yeah, for me, it's Bailey and Bain.
02:11And I love Tate, don't get me wrong.
02:13I love him a lot.
02:14But if there was an opportunity to trade back, I think I'd do it off him.
02:19I haven't even considered Reese.
02:20And maybe Reese is the one along with Mendoza that I think are the two that definitely there's, like, no
02:29chance they make it to 7.
02:31I've actually seen Bailey mocked to Washington at 7.
02:35So I'll keep him in the mix of what's possible.
02:37But I don't think Reese is possible.
02:40We know Mendoza isn't.
02:42Yeah, exactly.
02:43I mean, Reese is going to go 2 or 3.
02:45And all the smoke about the Cardinals liking Jeremiah Love.
02:49Certainly, I'm sure they like him, but Farvell Reese is there.
02:52I think they run to the podium and take him there.
02:56You know, the lack of quarterbacks in this draft makes things super interesting because, you know, you have guys who
03:03are being pushed up the draft board, you know, who are talented players and have all the stats and numbers
03:10and stuff that you'd like, but aren't necessarily the premium position type guys.
03:14And it's going to be interesting to see how teams kind of approach this draft with, you know, Sonny Stiles
03:19and Caleb Downs and guys like that who, you know, are who play positions that aren't premium positions in the
03:25NFL.
03:26Who do you think they'll end up taking at 7 if they stay there and take a player?
03:32I do think Cardinal Tate, maybe it's my bias because I've been so high on him for, you know, a
03:39few months now, but I think that he's a player that can do everything for you and, you know, can
03:46step right in and be a big piece of an offense.
03:50And I think that, you know, if you're building this team around Jaden Daniels, which, you know, they've talked about
03:55in the past, and obviously things are changing with the coordinators that are there.
03:59You look at the offseason, they spent the lion's share of their money and signings on, you know, defensive players,
04:07particularly guys, you know, kind of in that front seven.
04:10I think that it makes the most sense that they add another dynamic weapon for Jaden, another dynamic weapon to
04:16this offense, and Cardinal Tate fits the bill.
04:18So, I think it's a good possibility as well, and it wouldn't disappoint me at all.
04:24I love the player like you do.
04:26I said to Max earlier, Mitch, that I think more than any other player in this draft, the one move
04:36that would anger the fan base the most is if Jeremiah Love is on the board at seven and they
04:43don't take Jeremiah Love.
04:44Now, and I actually went through the players, like I think, take Bailey and Reese and obviously Mendoza out of
04:50the equation and put everybody else into it.
04:54The one that would really, I think, piss off the fan base more than any other is the player you
05:00and I both like.
05:00And I would take Tate over Love personally for a number of reasons.
05:05But do you agree with me that if Love is there and they don't take Love, that that's the one
05:12thing they could do in the first round pass on Love that would create the most negative response among our
05:20fan base?
05:22Yeah, probably. I mean, I think it won't just be the Commanders fan base.
05:26It'll be the other teams in front of them. It'll be the Browns. It'll probably be the Giants.
05:30You know, these different fan bases, I think he's the guy that social media has fallen in love with.
05:35And that's not to say that he's not a very, very good player and has a bright future in the
05:39NFL.
05:40Like, don't get me wrong. I think he's going to be I think he's going to be good, maybe very
05:44good.
05:44I just don't think that he necessarily fits necessarily what Washington needs offensively.
05:50But that's also part of, you know, the job that Adam Peters has.
05:54And you're not not necessarily to take the popular pick, but to take the player that they think can help
05:59them most.
06:00And so, yes, the fan base would be would be upset.
06:03And certainly it would immediately put pressure on, you know, whoever they do take to perform well, to alleviate it.
06:10Because, you know, you and I both know what will happen, you know, in week three, heck, in week one,
06:15if, you know, whoever they take over them, you know, isn't performing and and love goes out there and has
06:20a good season.
06:22Yeah. Well, I mean, and typically running backs are ready to roll year one more than most other positions.
06:30I'm with you. It sounds like you and I are actually on the same page and I have not found
06:33anybody or really that's been on the same page with me on love.
06:37I like the player. I don't consider him to be the transcendent elite level, you know, B. John, you know,
06:46Saquon McCaffrey type of back.
06:48And for that position, I'm only taking B. John Robinson at number seven.
06:53And I don't consider him to be that player. It sounds like you agree.
06:58Yeah, I 100 percent agree.
07:00I mean, I also think running back is a position that you can find in the mid-level of a
07:06draft or you can find productive players in free agency as well.
07:11I mean, you know, you look back at at Ashton Jensie last year, you know, he was the transcendent running
07:16back.
07:17And granted, he went to a terrible organization that, you know, has a has a really bad team.
07:21But he, you know, he was he was good. He was he was fine last year.
07:25I don't think folks would necessarily call him transcendent.
07:28And coming out of college, that was kind of the idea was that he was going to step in and,
07:32you know, be a thousand yard back year after year and be able to do all these different things.
07:38The other thing about Jeremiah Love that I guess just doesn't really get talked about a lot is his frame
07:43and his size.
07:44He's not the biggest body. He's not the biggest guy.
07:46You know, how is he going to granted Notre Dame plays a, you know, plays a full college football schedule
07:52for the most part.
07:52And, you know, they they play a bunch of, you know, big time colleges.
07:55But how how is he going to hold up over a 17 game season?
07:59You know, how is he going to hold up as a 15, 20 carry 15, 20 touch a game, you
08:04know, type of guy?
08:05Those are those. That's the question that I have about him.
08:07That's the biggest question, which, you know, is in the grand scheme of things, not the worst thing in the
08:12world.
08:12But I just I think this team has a running back on a seventh round rookie deal who can be
08:19a very, very productive back right now.
08:21And, you know, maybe you get to a point where you realize Bill isn't the guy.
08:25And, you know, you have next year's draft, two years, three year, whatever time frame it is to go find
08:30another running back.
08:31I don't think that Jeremiah Love is this guy that you have to take if he's there on the board.
08:35Look, Notre Dame, I pointed this out several times.
08:37Notre Dame has, you know, obviously a schedule, but my God, after Miami and Texas A&M in weeks one
08:43and two last year,
08:44they played some of the worst defensive teams in the country last year and the holes were gaping.
08:51I've comped him to Josh Jacobs with just more speed, which, by the way, is an excellent NFL running back.
08:58It's just not Christian McCaffrey or Bijon Robinson.
09:02If he ended up being Josh Jacobs with just more home run speed, I mean, I'd be thrilled to see
09:09it.
09:09I just think it's too high at seven.
09:12Yeah. And, you know, I don't want to downgrade the kid too much, but, you know, you look at some
09:17of his games in there against teams with with pretty awful defenses.
09:21He had, you know, 50 some odd yards, you know, I think 15 or so carries against against Arkansas.
09:28He had a, you know, not a big performance at the end of the year, you know, when they played
09:32when they played Stanford.
09:33You see a couple of, you know, he got hurt in that game, the Syracuse game.
09:37I mean, go back and look at some of those runs against that defense.
09:41I mean, gaping holes where he wasn't touched, you know, be, you know, once he got five, six, seven yards
09:48past the line of scrimmage.
09:49It was, yeah, but he's good.
09:51He's really good.
09:53Yeah. He's a four, three guy.
09:55So like he has the speed, he has the explosiveness.
09:57I just don't think those holes are going to exist in the NFL when he gets up here.
10:01And I think that changes the changes, the calculation on it a whole bunch when you take away, you know,
10:06his ability to run through, you know, five, six yard holes like he did in college from time to time.
10:12Talking with Mitch Tischler.
10:14So give me the player that you hope is there at 71.
10:18Let's assume it's Tate at seven and you get your wish.
10:23You've looked at this draft.
10:24Who falls to 71 that you'd be really excited about?
10:29Give me some of those players on night two that you really like.
10:34Yeah.
10:35Keontae Scott, he's a TD from Miami.
10:38He's somebody who's been on my board when we made our, when we did our, our commanders only mock draft
10:44on Belway football.
10:45That's what I took.
10:46He's, you know, he's a 25 year old kid, so he's certainly not young, but you have four years of
10:50control of him.
10:51I like the idea that you have a Meek Robertson there who can be, you know, especially early in the
10:55season, kind of your every down, you know, nickel slash slot.
10:58Corner, I think Keontae Scott's the one who can, who can build up into that role.
11:02He's also a really good off ball blitzer, which I think we're going to see a whole lot of with
11:07Durante Jones.
11:09I initially had Jagger Burton, who's a center from Kentucky a little bit further in the draft, but I do
11:17think they need to take a center in one of those next two picks.
11:21It seems like he's rushing up the board as someone who might, you know, push into the second round there.
11:26Maybe it's a little bit early for him, but I also think you've seen this front office, you know, kind
11:31of have their convictions on their players and go take them.
11:35We saw that last year with, with Josh Connerly.
11:37So, you know, maybe as, maybe as somebody who they think can, can, can step in and help kind of
11:42early on in his career, he was a center of Kentucky.
11:45They ran a zone read, a zone, zone run game.
11:49So he's familiar with kind of what the commanders are going to be asking for him, obviously played in the
11:53SEC.
11:54So, you know, played against big time competition.
11:57I keep going back to, and I said it early on when you were talking about Cardinal Tate is just,
12:02you know, not forgetting what these guys put on tape when they're on the field and getting distracted by, you
12:08know, metrics and numbers that have since come out.
12:10Because you have, you know, for most of these guys, a year, two years, three years, four years, you know,
12:17of on-field play where you can, where you can kind of evaluate who they are and to not get
12:22distracted by the, by the shiny fast thing, you know, as, as you're going through it, I think is important.
12:27But those are kind of two of the guys that I've earmarked as folks I'd love to see in the
12:32burgundy and gold.
12:33Yeah, to me, the player that speaks to that more than any other, and you've already mentioned him, is Bain.
12:40I don't, I can't speak to how he overcomes the short arms, but power, speed, technique, and just, you know,
12:51motor seem to work against some pretty good, you know, NFL caliber offensive linemen.
12:57And if, if I can't imagine that the tape that people are going to go with the short arms over
13:03the tape, because he was, can't keep your eyes off watching him kind of a player, especially this year and
13:11in their biggest games.
13:12He was, uh, he was dominant.
13:14Um, I don't know how he ends up falling, but that, that short arm number is going to scare a
13:20lot of teams off.
13:21I think if his arms Mitch had come in at like normal sized, he is potentially the number two player
13:27in this draft.
13:29Yeah.
13:30I think the thing that doesn't get talked about with Ruben Bain enough is that Miami couldn't keep him off
13:34the field.
13:35He was on the field on first, second, third, fourth, he was on the field in every situation.
13:40And so, you know, you look at, at guys, at some of the other guys like Arville Reese, you know,
13:45and even David Bailey, and they're more, um, you know, uh, passed down, you know, hoping that they are passed
13:52down effective, hoping they're better at getting out to the, getting out to the quarterback.
13:55Like Ruben Bain is a three down defensive and edge rusher, whatever you want to, whatever you want to call
14:01him.
14:01And, you know, as much as you talk about not having three down backs in the NFL much anymore, you
14:05don't have a whole lot of three down, you know, edge guys either.
14:08And for Ruben Bain, who did it at the highest level in the biggest moments against the best team, I
14:13think you can't forget, you know, what you saw, the dominance that you saw all through the college football playoff
14:18in the national championship game, you know, week after week from him.
14:21And that's why he's, you know, he and Cardinal Tate are the two guys that I'm running to the podium
14:25for.
14:26And it's just whether the deep kind of balance of how Adam Peters wants to look at it, whether they
14:30want to add on offense or defense.
14:32Yeah.
14:32Like Bain, Bailey, Tate, like, like if you're just going on production and Mendoza, obviously, um, real quickly though with
14:41Bain, here's the one thing that I'm just, it's not that I'm struggling with it.
14:45Cause they'd figure out an answer, but he really does strike me unlike Bailey, unlike Reese.
14:51Um, as a four, three defensive end, three point stance, D end rather than a two point stance base three,
15:00four.
15:00And if we assume that Durante Jones is going to take Brian Flores is base three, four, which they actually
15:07played more base than a lot of teams in the league.
15:10Is that the right positional fit for Bain?
15:15Certainly.
15:16That's the question.
15:17And, you know, you, I think what we're going to see out of Durante Jones is he's going to put
15:21these guys in the, in the best position possible, which every defensive minded coach wants to do.
15:26But I've talked about this for a long time with offensive coordinators around the league.
15:31You know, you have guys who say, Hey, my system is great.
15:33Run my system.
15:34If you do it, as I say, it doesn't matter who you put, where you'll find yourself open.
15:38And I think Durante Jones is going to be more about putting guys in the best positions they can be
15:43in to win with their skill sets.
15:45And I think with a guy like, like Bain, there are a lot of different things that you can do
15:50with him.
15:50And even if it's, even if they're running a base three, four, you're going to have your hand in your
15:54dirt defensive end guy, you know, who's going to be, who's going to be, you know, on the, in the
15:59five gap on the outside out there.
16:01And I think, I think Bain is somebody who is going to be, you know, from his rookie year on
16:06the field, you know, every, every play and kind of the tenacity with which he plays the game.
16:11Even when he doesn't win, he always is up. He's always around the ball. He's always chasing after it. You
16:17look at some of the sacks that he has, particularly in the college football playoff.
16:19It's not that he won right away, but he kept after the play and was able to impact it. And
16:24ultimately in the first round of seven, that's what you want.
16:27It's someone who's going to impact the game. And I think Bain is somebody that can definitely do that.
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