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Plenty of playmakers will be there at pick No. 7 for Washington, but which one will Adam Peters go with in the first round of the NFL Draft.
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00:00We had Matt Miller from ESPN on NFL Draft Scout, does a tremendous job.
00:05Like, if you're into the NFL Draft, they have a seven-round mock draft on ESPN.com.
00:09That's a lot of time.
00:11That's a lot of time.
00:12But he talked yesterday that he likes Makai Lemon as the number one receiver in this class ahead of Carnell
00:20Tate.
00:20You've also got the kid Jordan Tyson from ASU.
00:24Rather, Tyson, I would think, if you're just measuring up on paper, would be the one in this class.
00:32But he's just been hurt.
00:34He's just been hurt.
00:35These hamstring issues.
00:37And the injuries, those injuries will affect you, man.
00:40But, like, when you're talking about Lemon, I looked at his stuff.
00:43He's 5'11".
00:45Yeah.
00:45185.
00:46He can be 195 in no time.
00:50Guess who else about 5'11 and a half?
00:52Terry McLaurin.
00:53Yeah.
00:54Terry and I are just about eye to eye.
00:55So, when I hear he's smaller, he's not smaller.
01:01Most receivers in the league are right around 5'11".
01:04Okay?
01:04Right.
01:05You do get some guys that jump over 6 feet, but most of them are around 5'11".
01:09So, he's not a 5'8 shifty guy.
01:12And that's what I kept thinking when people were like, oh, he's just a small, sly guy.
01:16He's not a sly guy.
01:17He's not like 5'8".
01:18Yeah.
01:18He can become an outside guy for you as well.
01:21So, but I still say this.
01:25When you have so many weapons on your team, you're less apt to get as many numbers as Lemon's got.
01:34Right.
01:34He was the weapon on their team.
01:37So, yes, he got much more brass.
01:39He got much more yard.
01:40Ohio State had a lot more.
01:40Doesn't mean that he's better than Tate just because of those numbers.
01:44Let's hear.
01:44This is Matt Miller from ESPN talking about Carnell Tate versus Makai Lemon, the USC wide out.
01:50Here's my hot take.
01:51I think Lemon's the best receiver in the class.
01:53So, maybe Tate's the consensus.
01:56I try to insulate myself from, like, what a lot of other people are saying about the draft.
02:00I think Lemon's – and they're close.
02:02Like, I have them, like, one player seven, one player eight, but I love wide receivers that get open on
02:10timing, on leverage, on technique.
02:12They both do that really well, but I just love the toughness and the ability to break tackles and run
02:17through contact that Lemon has.
02:19Tyson, I'm with you, but it's a hamstring issue.
02:23That's scary.
02:24And it's a guy who has been banged up a decent amount.
02:27And then the last time we saw him healthy in 2024, he had some drop issues.
02:32So, good player.
02:34I mean, he didn't come in as big as I thought he was.
02:37You know, he came at, like, 6'2", 200 pounds, you know, and he was kind of billed as this
02:40big jump ball guy.
02:41That's not what he measured in at at all.
02:44And so, it's like, okay, what are you?
02:47You know, I think he might be closer to, like, Jerry Judy as a receiver than, you know, what he
02:52was thought to be as, like, a Tee Higgins type player.
02:55So, I like Tyson.
02:56I like Omar Cooper Jr. better.
03:01One, two.
03:02I mean, those.
03:07You're there.
03:09He's, I don't know.
03:11Yeah, there we go.
03:12So, those Indiana receivers between Cooper and Surratt, like, those dudes are super productive.
03:18I, but one thing that he said I was confused by.
03:22He said the guy measured in at 6'2", whatever it was, 6'2", something.
03:27And he said he was supposed to come in as his jump ball guy.
03:31Does he think he got to be 6'5'' to be a jump ball guy?
03:34Because he could be 6'2'' with a damn 40-inch vertical.
03:36You know what I'm saying?
03:37And he'd go up and get it.
03:39Well, and Terry's right at 6'2".
03:40And he wins contested catches all the time.
03:42But that's what I'm saying.
03:43When he said he didn't measure, like, a six, like, the jump ball guy, he said he measured
03:496'2".
03:50That confused me because I'm like, what did he expect him to be 6'5"?
03:53Because if you're 6'2", and you got some hops, you could be a jump ball guy.
03:59I just, I'm getting closer and closer to a space where the Jeremiah Love conversation is one thing
04:07because he is undoubtedly the best in his class, right?
04:13There's zero doubt that Jeremiah Love's best running back in this class.
04:16Yes.
04:16Period.
04:17Yes.
04:17Now, there's questions about do you take a running back?
04:21Oh, God.
04:23Oh, my God.
04:24And I'm with the stallion.
04:25Do something about that.
04:28There's, we're having a, a dog's got an upset stomach about four feet from us.
04:32That could impact people wanting to come take pictures with us, I'll tell you that much.
04:38Anyhow, I mean, listen, I get distracted.
04:40I know I'm trying to keep it locked.
04:42This is pretty distracting.
04:44I mean, now.
04:45Keep looking at me.
04:46Oh, good.
04:46Now's the smell coming.
04:48All right.
04:49But as far as when you talk about these receivers, Love is undoubtedly, oh, look, the horses are
04:57leaving.
04:58Bye, horses.
04:59Thank you for your time.
05:00Bye, doggie up there.
05:01Dog, dog, like, hey, let's go.
05:03Yeah.
05:03The dog was just chilling.
05:04The horse is working.
05:05All right.
05:06That guy did his best to clean that up, so shout out to him.
05:08Yeah.
05:10Love at seven, I'm not sure I could get there, B. I'm just, I'm not sure I can.
05:15But I can understand it conceptually, right?
05:18Yeah.
05:18Yeah.
05:19Like, listen, bro.
05:20A receiver.
05:21If he falls in your lap, they have a decision to make.
05:24Okay?
05:25Right.
05:25I, as I look at it and as I hear people talk and I watch how the league calls these
05:31offenses
05:32and how the rules are set up, I believe that receiver is more impactful.
05:36Then when you look at this football team, with Terry, I think after this year not having
05:42any guarantees, you're going to need somebody to be able to carry on, okay?
05:48Unless they decide, okay, we'll come on back again.
05:50But you're going to think that you're going to have to start getting younger and you're
05:54going to have to have somebody that can be able to carry it on at that position.
05:58So, I totally agree with you.
06:00And I think if you're in on Cardinal Tate, if their evaluation of Tate is he's worthy at
06:07seven, no doubt about it, then you take him, right?
06:11Like, I don't blink an eye if they take him there.
06:13For me, when you have some question about who the best receiver to take is, if you love
06:21Downs and he's there, or you love Styles and he's there, or you love Bain and he's
06:25there, I do like these third round, the type of receiver I think you can get at 71 could
06:32absolutely be a baller.
06:34And you and I talk about how the proliferation of the pass game, they got year round seven
06:39on seven, spring football, like receivers come into the NFL so much better than they
06:45previously did.
06:46Yeah, they come in ready to go.
06:47More experienced.
06:47But like the thing, I look at it where every year, we basically kill ourselves over who
06:54should take who where.
06:56Right.
06:57There have been receivers taken in the third round that are better than receivers in the
07:00first.
07:00Terry McLaurin.
07:01There have been receivers in the first round.
07:03Terry was a third rounder.
07:04There have been receivers who's drafted 24th, 25th in the first round, or better than the
07:08guys that was drafted up front.
07:10It just comes down to can that guy play, and then will you give him the opportunity to be
07:15successful at the position?
07:17You know, I don't, people like, if you got a guy, if he's number one in your eyes and
07:24somebody else thinks he's number two, you go with your eyes.
07:27You have your criteria.
07:30You keep muting him, dude.
07:33Yeah.
07:35Jackson Smith and Jigbo was the 20th overall pick.
07:39Like, there's no surefire, it's not a science, it's an inexact science to say the least.
07:45His what pick?
07:46Jackson Smith and Jigbo was 20th.
07:47Okay.
07:48And he's making more money than the guys that were up front.
07:51He's making as much money as like Roger Goodell.
07:52But that's what I'm saying, man.
07:54Like, listen, a lot of times where you're drafted only depicts where the opportunities
08:01you're going to get.
08:02Once you get inside that damn building, it's what work you put in is going to take you where
08:07you need to go.
08:08Sure.
08:08You know, and I think, you look at, I just look at it like this, okay?
08:14Look at the Ohio State receiver.
08:16That's what I wanted to ask you.
08:17And then you look at, look at Terry and his work ethic.
08:21If Cardinal Tate has anything like that, expect him to be a bad man.
08:25How much does the Ohio State factor matter?
08:28Because we've seen Terry here, Alave, Garrett Wilson, Jackson Smith and Jigbo.
08:32I mean, Ohio State just keeps churning these guys out.
08:35Is that something that actually matters?
08:39It is something that matters because it's obvious that what they do there, get people
08:44prepared for the next level.
08:59Linebackers from Penn State.
09:01Anybody from Miami, okay?
09:04When you start seeing certain things happen over and over and over again, that pedigree
09:10means something, you know?
09:11And I'll say this.
09:13You look at the pedigree, and I look at my man, Armand Brown.
09:19He went to USC.
09:21So that other kid could be very similar to how he is, but I would say you look at those
09:26receivers
09:27from Ohio State.
09:29You got some success going on there, bro.
09:30They got a lot of success going on.
09:35How much do you think Mansoor Delaney, the corner from LSU that grew up in the DMV, started
09:43his college career at Virginia Tech.
09:44I think he played his high school ball in the Baltimore area.
09:47Look that up for me, Stallion.
09:48I want to say he played at Gilman, maybe, or somewhere in Baltimore, I thought.
09:52But I could be wrong.
09:52Spalding, I think, Spalding, which is not Baltimore.
09:56Spalding's more Anne Arundel County, I guess.
09:59How much do you think the buzz around him growing is real or just kind of this draft?
10:06I think it's real.
10:07I really think it's real because that kid, you start looking at the people that come out
10:14of LSU also, okay, Stingley and all those different guys.
10:19When you see how he was already that type of guy at Virginia Tech, he goes to LSU, he didn't
10:27take a step back.
10:28He took a step up.
10:29And he went against those teams in the SEC.
10:34Then he goes runs a number.
10:37When people start talking more, you know what?
10:40Everybody's talking around him.
10:41You know, when we start hearing enough rumors, we know, okay, there's some reality to it.
10:46And I think that's exactly what's going on with this thing.
10:49And this draft is so funky that you have elite prospects, right?
10:54The guys I talked to that I trust said, you know, Mendoza's going one, period, and you
10:59can argue if he deserves to go there or if that's just a quarterback thing, et cetera.
11:04But the two best, like the offensive prospect and the defensive prospect in this draft are
11:10love and then downs.
11:11But, like, those are not elite positions.
11:14You know what I'm saying?
11:15But they're going that high.
11:18But the lane is a premier position.
11:21The difference between corner and safety is quite different.
11:23It's different, but if you've got a guy that they basically talk about him like he could
11:29be the Ed Reed type, that right there kind of throws it out the window.
11:35Because if he is a game changer at that position, he may be worthy of that pick.
11:45You know what I mean?
11:46And I think Styles was going to be a top 10, top 15 guy.
11:51Especially when you're that big and you go run that fast.
11:53I think once his combine performance, then it's like, all right, this might be a top
11:56five guy.
11:57Because you know how I am.
11:58I don't care if you just ran a good time at the combine if you didn't play well.
12:04Right.
12:04But when you played well and ran those numbers and stuff like that, all of a sudden I take
12:11a second look at you.
12:12Are you still of the mindset?
12:15Because when all the Jeremiah Love buzz started, you were like, receiver makes a lot more sense
12:20than running back.
12:21And that is completely correct.
12:22I'm still there.
12:23Completely correct.
12:24And Adam Peters brought up, he got asked about the running back position at owner's meetings.
12:29And he said, he's like, you know, we did just draft Bill in the seventh round last year
12:34and he worked out pretty well.
12:36You know what I mean?
12:36So you can get that production at a really high level no matter what.
12:42And I'm not saying that Love won't be better and more explosive and all these things, but
12:47I don't think it's necessarily a given that Love will immediately take this place somewhere
12:55else.
12:56True.
12:56I mean, we've seen a lot of running backs come out with that level of talent.
13:01It may not be exactly what his is, but you haven't seen the production that you thought
13:05because it's a different ball game, bro, at this level.
13:09And listen, man, Barry Sanders, I saw Barry Sanders step up here and he'd immediately be
13:14good.
13:15But he has something that I don't think anyone, listen, Christian McCaffrey, B. John Robinson,
13:21Gibbs, none of them have Barry Sanders.
13:23They don't touch Barry.
13:24Barry Sanders is like a rabbit.
13:26You drop him right here and nobody will touch him.
13:28If you're going receiver, to me, Tate is the safest pick.
13:34Size, pedigree, production.
13:37I wonder if Lemon isn't maybe something else.
13:44But like, does Tate seem the safest to you if you're going receiver?
13:50Yes, yes.
13:51And the safest and there's a history, it's a historical value and an aspect of what has
13:57happened for receivers that come from that college.
14:00For me, I wonder, I think the safest prospect in this draft is Caleb Downs.
14:06I think he comes in and wherever he goes, he helps immediately.
14:11You know what I love the most about Caleb Downs?
14:13And this may be stupid.
14:15Three seasons, two at Bama, one at Ohio State.
14:18I believe I had that right.
14:21The highest, highest level of college football.
14:24Never missed a game.
14:25Playing super physical, downhill football.
14:28You talk to either staff.
14:30You talk to Tuscaloosa or Columbus.
14:32Coach on the field.
14:33We trust him implicitly.
14:35I get it.
14:36So what he's done, he's given you some history to decide on.
14:42You know what I'm saying?
14:43And when you have guys like that, that means something.
14:47Because I guarantee you, you can ask Caleb Downs, have you ever been hurt and you still
14:51played?
14:52Yes.
14:53I thought through it.
14:53Yeah, there's no way he was fully healthy every day.
14:55Yeah, so, and that's the thing about it, like, of the one game out of my 14th season that
15:01I missed, I was no more hurt or feeling bad than of all the others that I played in.
15:08But Coach Giles said, get off the field, we gonna save you.
15:12Okay, cool.
15:13But if I had known I was gonna be the only one, I'd have probably gotten to a fight with
15:17him.
15:17That's crazy.
15:17But it's just, what it is, is like sometimes you learn how, like when I watch Gary practice
15:24and stuff and how he was running, did he get in the game and the guy's going full speed?
15:28You gotta figure out a way.
15:30I had hamstring twinges, but I know hamstring, people think hamstring happens when you're
15:34running, but no, when you go to stop suddenly, you can mess your hamstring up.
15:38Yeah.
15:38So you just coast a little bit farther.
15:40You gotta play through it, man.
15:41Yeah, you gotta figure out a way.
15:42You know how many days I've gotten this headset on and done this show with a hangover, Brian?
15:48You gotta be tough.
15:49But see, a hangover's not injury.
15:52It's kind of.
15:52That's a decision.
15:53Yeah.
15:54Yeah.
15:54Yeah.
15:54Yeah.
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