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00:00Hello, I'm Angela Scanlon and welcome to Unfinished Business, the show that offers you the best deals on The Apprentice
00:06exclusives.
00:07Coming up, I'll be speaking to the candidates who paid a heavy price in the TV selling task, Levi and
00:13Connor.
00:13Lord Sugar discusses the deal of the day he made with Kieran and we've got a two for one on
00:18special guests.
00:20Series 18 candidate Trey Lowe and presenter Lauren Layfield.
00:24This is The Apprentice Unfinished Business.
00:31Welcome to the show, Lauren and Trey.
00:35How are you?
00:36Yeah, all right, thanks.
00:37Good, good. Listen, before we get stuck into the task, let's remind ourselves of Kieran's unexpected boardroom offer.
00:45If I stay in this process, I would like to be the project manager on task 10 to prove to
00:49you what I can do.
00:51If I lose, we shake hands, I walk out.
00:53All right. That's very interesting.
00:56Interesting indeed.
00:58Connor's eye roll.
01:00I fell that deep in my soul.
01:02I think I did the exact same reaction when I watched it.
01:04Did you?
01:05Okay, so do we think it was brave or foolish?
01:07I think it was desperate.
01:10Fine.
01:11I think he'd already been PM.
01:13He's done it again.
01:14Yeah.
01:14You can't be asking for a third go.
01:16That's just cheeky, cheeky boy behavior.
01:18How do you reckon?
01:19Yeah.
01:20Worked, though.
01:21Well, it did work and you said that's what people need to do.
01:24When you're in the bottom three, you're fighting for everything.
01:27Yeah.
01:27And in a way, you're showing qualities that Lord Sugar actually wants to see.
01:30Determination, tenacity, etc.
01:32I think it was genius and it worked.
01:34It worked.
01:35Well, let's hear what Lord Sugar thinks.
01:37He's left me another voice now, hasn't he?
01:39Don't get jealous.
01:40Direct line.
01:41Hi, Angela.
01:43Hello, sir.
01:44I've got to give it to Kieran.
01:45He made me an offer I couldn't refuse.
01:49He may have saved him this time, but it's a big risk.
01:53I'm not sure a calculated one.
01:56We know he can talk the talk, but if it comes to it, will he walk the walk?
02:03Ooh.
02:04Dun, dun, dun.
02:05Do we think he'll be walking?
02:08Honestly?
02:09I think he will.
02:10I think he will.
02:10Do you reckon?
02:12The thing is, you've got no more chances now.
02:15You are literally last chance saloon.
02:17And that's a lot of pressure.
02:19I mean, the task itself for pressure on its own.
02:21But knowing that your neck is on a chopping block, yeah, I can't see him.
02:25Let's talk TV selling, right?
02:26An absolute fan favourite.
02:28In a nutshell, did they live up to expectations?
02:31No, not from my point of view.
02:34Tress it up.
02:36I'll only say really, because when I say compare it to our year,
02:40and I thought our year wasn't necessarily, oh, my God, amazing.
02:43But if I look at the figures, we may double what they did,
02:45and it's only two years apart, so you would expect them to get fairly close to what we did.
02:48I think one of the issues as well was just the level of silence.
02:51But there was no feedback from the gallery.
02:54They were kind of flapping about.
02:56You know, I was expecting them to do a lot better than they did.
02:59The silence was deafening at points.
03:01Yeah.
03:02But also, equally, in previous performances with this very selling task,
03:08sometimes that gallery has been loud.
03:11True.
03:11Chaos.
03:11I've done live TV, lots of it.
03:14And let me tell you, if you can hear, like, five voices screaming at you in your ear
03:19and you're trying to talk down a camera lens, it is so disorienting.
03:24So true.
03:25You know, they've never done it before.
03:26And I remember doing my very first audition for television,
03:29and it was basically that.
03:30And having people talk in your ear, you just don't know what's going on.
03:33So sometimes I go, yeah, they were pretty rubbish.
03:36But also, I go, you know what, it's a really hard thing to do.
03:40See, five voices in my head on any given day, that's a quiet day for me.
03:43Yeah, yeah, I imagine.
03:44If you've got kids, then it's probably pretty normal.
03:46No, I mean internally, babe.
03:49Internal voices are louder than anyone else's.
03:52Trey, you were PM for this task.
03:54Shall we remind ourselves of yours?
03:56Oh, God, please don't show this.
03:57We are now dropping the price, guys.
03:59Now it's going crazy.
04:01An incredible, an incredible £59.99.
04:06Tell them, Trey, we've got callers on the line.
04:08We can see you there.
04:09Place your order.
04:11So we've got Tracy on the line, and she's asking about...
04:14Not Tracy.
04:15That'll do.
04:15That'll do.
04:15You're like, Tracy.
04:16Tracy, Tracy.
04:17Come on in, Tracy.
04:18Okay.
04:19That's iconic.
04:20You guys need to burn and bury that footage forever.
04:23But in my defense, I couldn't hear a thing.
04:25Chaos.
04:26I was literally the first one on.
04:27You just couldn't hear anything.
04:29So I'm just like, right, I've got to wing it.
04:30And you are winging it when you don't really know what you're doing.
04:32But also the energy.
04:34There was energy.
04:35It was, like, quite intoxicating.
04:37Yeah.
04:38Well, there was strong competition, okay, for the project manager positions this week.
04:42Pasha nabbed the top spot for Team Alpha and Connor for Team Eclipse.
04:46Pasha came dressed for the job, right?
04:48She was not messing about.
04:49How do we think she handled her first time as PM?
04:53I think she did okay.
04:54What I would say is that I think Karishma really wanted to lead on this task.
04:58And so, Karishma...
04:59I mean, she was leading anyway, wasn't she?
05:01There was a slight pulling of the strings behind the scenes, I thought.
05:04So, yeah, she did a good job.
05:05She got the win.
05:06That's all that matters, right?
05:07She was pretty good in the gallery as well.
05:08She was, you know, we saw a couple of performances where it was literally tumbleweed.
05:13She was quite vocal.
05:14She gave good feedback, and sometimes that feedback makes the difference between a win, really,
05:18because I could sell one or two items.
05:20She was good.
05:20I thought she was great PM for her first time as well.
05:22And sold eight flossers.
05:24Yeah.
05:24In spite of her performance.
05:26That was unbelievable.
05:28It was comedy gold, though, isn't it?
05:29First you put all this green on your teeth, and then you've got a flosser that goes in your face.
05:33It was brilliant.
05:33The tub of spinach that was brought in.
05:35Amazing!
05:36So much spinach for one season.
05:37She's, like, just sticking it on her teeth, and you're like, I love her.
05:41Yeah, it was effective, some might say.
05:45Karishma, a little annoyed that she wasn't overseeing the task, as you alluded to.
05:50Although it was the first week that maybe we saw Karishma not really excelling.
05:55Yeah, true.
05:56You know, you would have expected her to have aced that.
05:58She had, you know, more...
06:00She just generally has been better than everyone.
06:02But then she went into this whole history of the country, and where it's from, and how it's mine,
06:07and I'm just thinking, sell it.
06:09There's someone out who wants to buy it.
06:11And also, when she was in the gallery, she was very quiet.
06:15Very quiet.
06:15Now, I've got a theory that when you get to sort of these later stages of this process,
06:20do you start behaving a little bit tactically?
06:23Sorry, so you were saying she was in sabotage?
06:26Maybe.
06:27Because she didn't get PM, she may have been sort of slyly trying to undermine
06:31that on-screen performance.
06:33Potentially.
06:34I like where your brain is going.
06:36I'm devious.
06:37Naughty, naughty.
06:38Let's move on to Team Eclipse, right?
06:40When it came to product selection, Conor put a lot of trust in Rothna and Dan to pick the jewellery.
06:47He kind of, you know, danced around going for the mid-range item.
06:52And Rothna was vocal, I think, about the fact that she said he lacked clarity
06:56and he didn't direct them kind of enough.
07:01Was that, like, her trying to shirk responsibility or how do we feel?
07:05It wasn't clear, like, go for this, fight for this, no matter what, beat the other team
07:08so we get the best possible item.
07:10She was right about that.
07:11What is a mid-range?
07:13What is a high-priced item?
07:15Well, that's it.
07:15Because I reckon, probably, a mid-range item to me might be a bit of a low-range item to
07:21Trey
07:21because he's on the old architect's money, do you know what I mean?
07:24It's all, like, relative, right?
07:26It's all relative, exactly.
07:29Let's discuss the on-screen performances generally.
07:32Star sellers, who stood out?
07:34Dan, obviously, like, yeah, cleaned up for me.
07:36I thought he was brilliant.
07:38And unexpected, I would say unexpected.
07:40Kieran was initially very excited about selling the yoga mats, right?
07:43He was like, yeah, get me, get me in there.
07:46He thought then, last minute, that he should be placed on the higher item
07:50and Connor absolutely disagreed, OK?
07:54What do we make of their dynamic?
07:56It's been bubbling, I would say, for a number of weeks.
07:59It was frosty, wasn't it?
08:01Yeah, it was.
08:01Real frosty.
08:02It almost felt a bit personal, isn't it?
08:04I think Connor was thinking, yeah, if it goes wrong, I'm going to throw him under the bus.
08:07Yeah.
08:07You've got a sense of that.
08:08Because how are you going to sell a yoga mat?
08:10It's not that easy to sell.
08:12So it's quite...
08:12And I think at this late stage, you are actually thinking, if we lose,
08:15generally, that is a strategy for some people,
08:17if we lose, who can I sort of line up to throw under the bus?
08:20To bring him with me.
08:21Exactly, to bring him with me, yeah.
08:22I really thought, you know, at the beginning of that episode,
08:25he said, well, just watch me, you know?
08:27Yeah, I've got the lowest price item.
08:29This is going to be a masterclass.
08:30Yeah.
08:30And straight away, it was that, bless him, deer in headlights kind of moment.
08:36And he didn't know what to say.
08:37I think the realisation of how much is there to actually say about a yoga mat?
08:41Yeah, it hits you, isn't it?
08:43Because you do think before you go on, I'm going to do X, Y and Z.
08:46But like I said, because of that feedback you're like,
08:47and then you don't know what to do.
08:49And I think you saw that with him, he was just lost for words.
08:51You've got to get your ego out of the way when it comes to selling that sort of stuff.
08:53You've got to think about who am I selling to?
08:55They're the important person.
08:56Yeah, which Dan, I think, did quite brilliantly.
08:59And Conor, in fact, referenced it.
09:01He said he exceeded everybody's expectations.
09:03There was like a very gentle acknowledgement of his moment.
09:07And yes, he still brought him back into the boardroom.
09:10Justice for Dan.
09:11This is a disgrace.
09:12I'm so mad about it.
09:15It is time to bring out our first fired candidate,
09:18whose shopping channel shoe dryer blew his chances at Lord Sugar's investments.
09:23Let's remind ourselves of his pitch.
09:25How are we doing, everybody, and welcome.
09:27I'm Levi.
09:28Oh, here we go again.
09:30This is a shoe dryer.
09:32Talk about how much your missus will love that.
09:34She'll be so impressed with you.
09:35I know, and after me and my missus have been on the rise round town,
09:39a bit of a smelly shoe, all I have to do is just pop it on.
09:42You'd put me off.
09:43Listening to you, mate.
09:44You really would.
09:47Levi, welcome.
09:48How are we doing?
09:51I love it.
09:52I think you were slightly done dirty,
09:54because it was like Rothen was going,
09:55your missus will love it.
09:56I think she meant will love the fact that your stinking boobs will be dry.
10:01And you were like,
10:02your missus smelly shoes on the restaurant.
10:05I was like, those stilettos.
10:08What?
10:08I could say something here,
10:09but I don't want to throw my missus under the bus for your PIGs.
10:12So I'll keep you quiet with it.
10:15So you chose the shoe dryer, Levi.
10:18You weren't even set up with that product.
10:20You were into it,
10:21because you have found it useful in the past.
10:24Did you think it would be easier to sell than it was?
10:27Oh, yeah, most definitely.
10:28Yeah, I thought I'd be all right.
10:30When I was practising and everything,
10:31I thought I've got this bob on here.
10:33You practised?
10:33Yeah, well, shortly.
10:35But then when I come on to life selling and nerves were there,
10:38I don't even know how you're chuffing work, this.
10:40So, yeah,
10:42something like that,
10:43boom, yeah, that'll do.
10:45Would you buy one?
10:47No.
10:48You know what?
10:49I'd say yes.
10:52Because I think you did know that there's a market for it somewhere.
10:56Yeah.
10:57And I think, actually,
10:58Rothen was saying about your missus and stuff
10:59just threw a whole new audience into the game.
11:01Totally.
11:02But actually,
11:02you said about people, you know,
11:04who work outside all the time.
11:05Yeah, that was good, yeah.
11:06Well, that was the origin for you, right?
11:08But from my own experience,
11:09being in groundworks,
11:11well, I fell into quite a lot of puddles.
11:13So I thought,
11:14when your boots don't get dry,
11:15so I thought if I had a shoe dryer at home,
11:17bang me boots on there.
11:18Nothing worse.
11:18Bingo.
11:19You've got a soggy shoe.
11:20Yeah, banging your feet in a wet shoe next morning,
11:22setting up for a bad day.
11:23Mm-hmm.
11:24But on there as well,
11:25they didn't show,
11:25but I went about dog walkers,
11:27people like to go walking.
11:28Ah.
11:29So I threw a few more in there
11:31than I did just groundworks and my athlete's foot.
11:35The athlete's foot, yeah.
11:36That was the athlete's foot that did it.
11:37Yeah, but it was like a sketch, kind of.
11:40I mean, I feel like
11:41if I was sitting at home
11:43passively watching a shopping channel,
11:46I was back in the room.
11:47Like, I was awake.
11:48It was a surreal experience.
11:50I've never experienced that before.
11:51But when we did the training beforehand,
11:53I said to the woman, to the lady,
11:54I felt a bit giddy on that one.
11:56Do I need to rein it in a little bit?
11:57She's like, no, that's perfect.
11:59So I thought, all right, fantastic.
12:00I'll keep that energy up then.
12:01She'll feed out.
12:02It was giddy on another level.
12:03I loved the energy.
12:05Levi, the firing happened
12:07very quickly.
12:08Did it come as an extra shock
12:10off the back of last week,
12:11PM, and your win?
12:13So you were like,
12:14high, high, high, high, boom.
12:15Yeah, straight in.
12:16He didn't even let me...
12:17Slow sugar didn't even give me
12:18a chance to warm seat up.
12:19As soon as I put my bum down,
12:21he was like, right, you're gone.
12:22I was like, oh, nice one.
12:23So yeah, it was a bit deflating
12:24with that one.
12:25But I had a feeling I was going to go
12:27because one of you will be leaving.
12:30He made eye contact with me straight away.
12:32I thought, you've made your mind up here.
12:33Oh, did you?
12:34So I had a feeling
12:35that I was going to be going on that.
12:36So I'm sort of prepared.
12:37But yeah, it was a bit of a flat line,
12:39really, after winning on an eye.
12:40Yeah, that's tough.
12:42You had a couple of close calls, though.
12:44One of the most memorable for me
12:46was binning the parsley in Egypt, OK?
12:50Had you genuinely never seen a bunch of parsley?
12:55Yeah, in shops.
12:56When I go to Tesco's or something,
12:57I've seen it.
12:57OK, but you just thought
12:58they, like, merchandised it upside down?
13:00Well, no.
13:01Well, it wasn't priesh,
13:02because I don't do it.
13:03I can cook,
13:04but I don't enjoy cookies,
13:05so I don't cook.
13:06So priesh went,
13:07cut that bit and throw it away.
13:10So I cut that bit
13:11and threw it away.
13:12But he didn't show it on that episode.
13:14I said to Priesh,
13:15Priesh, talk to me like I'm thick, mate.
13:18He must have been thinking,
13:19I already am.
13:21And it's not working.
13:24He went after that.
13:25Priesh was baffled.
13:26He's like, I am Levi.
13:30As a former military man,
13:31you're used to working with a team.
13:33Do you think, then,
13:34that you approach tasks differently
13:36to some of the others
13:37because of that background?
13:38I think I approached it
13:40compared to everybody,
13:41to be fair,
13:42because to me,
13:42yes, to me,
13:44it was the whole way through
13:45up until week 10.
13:46It's a team task.
13:48If you're on that winning team,
13:49you put the people
13:50in the right places
13:50and your team win.
13:52You're in it.
13:53You're in it till final.
13:54It's just when you get
13:54to the interviews,
13:55when it's about you
13:56and your business,
13:57and that's the thing
13:58I'm good about,
13:58because I knew
13:59I would have really excelled there.
14:00I know my business
14:01inside and out.
14:01I'm passionate.
14:03But yeah,
14:03that's the mindset I had.
14:04We work as a team,
14:05put people in the right places.
14:06Let's get that win.
14:07And then we have to
14:08prove themselves,
14:09step into situations
14:10that they're not
14:11professional in before
14:12just to prove,
14:13if you know what I mean.
14:14Because I do think
14:14that's the thing.
14:15Some people are looking
14:16for kind of glory,
14:17looking to stand out early.
14:19But, and, you know,
14:21Lord Sugar referenced you
14:22as like you're like
14:23a plus one at a wedding
14:24at one point.
14:25It's like,
14:26maybe I'm just a puppeteer.
14:29Well, I'll be honest.
14:30I didn't realise
14:31how Yorkshire I actually sounded
14:33until I come down here.
14:34I love it.
14:35And I, thank you.
14:37And I wanted to do
14:38the pitching,
14:39but once I realised
14:40how northern I sounded,
14:42how Yorkshire I was,
14:43I thought I'm not
14:44the right person
14:44to do any pitching.
14:45I thought as soon
14:46as I start talking,
14:47people will be laughing
14:47when I'm trying
14:48to be serious.
14:49Oh, no.
14:49I don't agree at all.
14:50Yeah, that's really true.
14:52So I like took
14:53a bit of a step back
14:54with that one
14:55where I liked
14:55to have done the pitching,
14:56but I thought in myself,
14:57it was my own
14:59subconscious overthinking,
15:00really.
15:01I should have put myself
15:02out there,
15:02but I didn't.
15:03Isn't this a funny thing
15:04when it comes to pitching,
15:05we think that we've got
15:06to be, you know,
15:07really serious about it,
15:08but people love
15:09a northerner.
15:10People warm
15:10to northerner's minds.
15:11Like I said,
15:12it's quite a psychological
15:12process, isn't it?
15:13Yeah.
15:14You know,
15:14you've got to kind of
15:15defeat that voice
15:16in your head sometimes
15:17and just be like,
15:18no, I'm the best person
15:18for this.
15:19Let me go for it,
15:20you know?
15:20Any favourite humans,
15:21Levi?
15:22I love the dynamics.
15:23I love the house.
15:24I love all the,
15:25you know,
15:26stuff that,
15:26oh, he's like...
15:27Well, yeah,
15:28there was a favourite
15:29human until
15:30gamified fitness.
15:31That would have been
15:32Lawrence.
15:33Hey,
15:34he showed his
15:34true colours.
15:35Yeah,
15:36he were nice.
15:37I liked the lad
15:38until that point.
15:40When you're out,
15:41you're out.
15:41Yeah,
15:42that's it.
15:42Then task A,
15:44when we have that
15:44talking back at Taxi,
15:46we started to blossom again
15:47and then,
15:48yeah,
15:48we were all right after that.
15:49Do you know what?
15:50I got on with everybody
15:51in the house.
15:52I sort of put myself
15:54in the house
15:54as like a dad role.
15:56I was always doing
15:57with dishwasher
15:58or tidying up.
15:58I was always putting
15:59bins out.
16:00If people wanted
16:01to come and talk,
16:01have a talk
16:02and confine us
16:03when they'd come
16:03and ask me
16:04and spoke to me.
16:05So you were the therapist
16:05as well?
16:06Yeah,
16:06I just got on
16:07with everybody.
16:08It was nice.
16:09It was nice to meet
16:10everybody from different
16:10backgrounds and people
16:11that I would never meet
16:12in my life.
16:13See,
16:14you're a better man
16:14than I am.
16:15I know that
16:16being in a house
16:17with people for that long,
16:18especially when you've had
16:19like a bit of argument
16:21by argument with them
16:22in,
16:22you know,
16:22in the boardroom,
16:23it must be hard
16:24not to like take that back
16:25to the house.
16:26When you're at home
16:26eating chicken together,
16:27you're like glaring
16:29over the top.
16:30Are people quite good
16:30at like sort of
16:31letting it go
16:32after they've had
16:33a bit of an argument
16:33or anything?
16:35I think you just got
16:36to be a bit of an adult
16:37about it.
16:38You just got to realise
16:38it's part of the process.
16:40You just got to get on with it
16:40and work together
16:41on that next task,
16:42which were nice
16:43because you got to see
16:44that with me and Laurence
16:44in back at car.
16:45Yeah.
16:46Like,
16:46don't get me wrong,
16:46we had a bit of a grudge.
16:48We didn't talk for 24 hours.
16:49We needed that bit
16:50of decompression.
16:51But then after that
16:52we went back in car,
16:53you're heading back on task.
16:54That bygones are bygones,
16:56let's just move forward with it.
16:57Well,
16:57you were a joy to watch
16:58and that TV selling
17:00will go down in history.
17:01Levi,
17:02thank you so much.
17:03Thank you for having me.
17:04Brilliant.
17:05Now,
17:06our next candidate
17:07put his blood,
17:08literal sweat
17:08and tears
17:09into TV selling
17:10but unfortunately
17:10he was price dropped
17:12straight out of the process.
17:14Let's remind ourselves
17:14of one of his
17:15more uplifting performances.
17:17Ladies and gentlemen,
17:19please keep arms
17:20and legs
17:21inside of the spacecraft
17:23as we get ready
17:24to blast off
17:26out of this world.
17:27Ladies and gentlemen,
17:28I'm going to ask you
17:29to count down with me.
17:31five,
17:32four,
17:33three,
17:34two,
17:35one.
17:36We have take off.
17:39Good.
17:40He's absolutely awesome.
17:41So energetic.
17:43Yeah.
17:43Honor!
17:44Woo!
17:46We riot at dawn.
17:47We riot at dawn.
17:48Get me back there.
17:49Get me back.
17:50You looked in your element
17:52in a silver onesie.
17:54Yeah,
17:55I know.
17:55I had it specially tailored
17:56from a hip.
17:57But you know,
17:58I was like looking at that.
17:59I was like,
17:59that is me.
18:00Yeah.
18:00And that is me
18:01in my element
18:01where I'm comfortable.
18:03And I was like,
18:03there's different times
18:04where this competition
18:05brings out a little bit
18:06of insecurity.
18:07Yeah.
18:07And you put up
18:09a guarded front.
18:10But when I knew
18:10I was going to shine
18:11or excel like that,
18:13I look at that
18:13and I was like,
18:13that's me.
18:14So the pitching,
18:15the entertainment,
18:16the corporate,
18:16like that's your...
18:17That's my gig.
18:19And I was like,
18:19I'm solely responsible
18:20for myself
18:21and my element.
18:22I knew what I'm going to do.
18:23I was like,
18:23I'm going to come here
18:23and harness and execute.
18:25Conor,
18:25you've just watched
18:26the TV selling task,
18:27okay?
18:27How did you feel
18:28hearing that praise
18:29from Lord Sugar
18:30and Karen and Tim
18:32after you left?
18:34Emotional.
18:35I actually,
18:35I won't lie
18:36because I was like,
18:38that day,
18:39I was so defeated.
18:40I was like,
18:41I cared so much
18:42about my team
18:43and I felt
18:44I left them down
18:45by not selling anything.
18:47And I was like,
18:48from the get-go,
18:48I was like,
18:48oh, this is going to be my week.
18:50And Roth,
18:51Nadal,
18:51Levi, Kieran,
18:52I was like,
18:52I adore them all.
18:53And I was like,
18:54I sold nothing.
18:54I was just like,
18:55I deserve to go home.
18:57And I wish
18:58I had felt
19:00the same way about myself
19:00that they were saying to me.
19:02So I actually went in there
19:03and fought for myself
19:04because I was like,
19:04looking at me,
19:05I was like,
19:05you can see my eyes are red.
19:06I was just,
19:07I was really upset.
19:08And it's a shame
19:10that it ended like that,
19:11but I felt like
19:12I deserved to go that week.
19:13And if there's anything
19:14that you've learned
19:14in business is
19:16you can't be defeated.
19:17You have to bounce back.
19:19And I think I was defeated
19:20that week.
19:20So rightfully,
19:21I think actually
19:21Lord Sugar saw that.
19:23And if you're looking
19:23for a business partner,
19:24you don't want someone
19:25who gets defeated
19:25over not selling
19:27in a bad day.
19:27But she's bounced back
19:28quick, babe.
19:28But that's what,
19:29yeah.
19:30Do you know what I mean?
19:31Ciarán made a deal
19:32with Lord Sugar, okay?
19:33Yeah.
19:34So that he could stay
19:35and you declined
19:36to even have that conversation.
19:38It was kind of gently
19:39offered anybody else?
19:41Yeah.
19:41In hindsight,
19:42do you wish
19:43you'd have played
19:43that differently?
19:44Do I wish
19:45I did it differently?
19:46No.
19:47At that moment,
19:47I actually thought
19:48I was like,
19:48well, I'm not winning.
19:49So I was like,
19:50well, I'm not winning.
19:51And then I was like,
19:52actually,
19:52I give 100% every week.
19:55I have the highest sales,
19:55highest negotiations,
19:56called out for clients,
19:57pitching.
19:58I have shown you
20:00week after week
20:00and I was like,
20:01if I'm going to progress
20:01in this competition,
20:02I want it to be based
20:03on merit.
20:04And I stood by that
20:05in that moment.
20:06Do I wish
20:06I got through
20:07to next week
20:07if I had said that?
20:09Yeah, of course,
20:09I'd like to see
20:10where it went,
20:10but I'm happy
20:11that I stuck
20:12to my morals
20:13and left.
20:14I thought it was
20:15quite punchy as well.
20:16Me too.
20:16It had sass.
20:18Yeah.
20:18You were like,
20:18no, I don't need
20:19to do that.
20:20I don't need to beg.
20:22I don't need to beg.
20:23And I do think
20:24there was a moment
20:25where I thought,
20:25oh yeah,
20:26he's just exposed,
20:27Kieran is a bit beggy.
20:28Yeah.
20:28I don't think,
20:29I think this might
20:30go in your favour
20:31is what I thought.
20:32I thought that I had
20:33shown enough
20:33throughout the process
20:34to be considered
20:34investable in.
20:36And I kind of said,
20:37I was like,
20:37well, if I go through
20:37to next week,
20:38I'm going to see
20:38the same again.
20:39I was like,
20:39I'm going to try
20:40and smash it
20:40out of the park again.
20:41If you want to see
20:42that, take me through.
20:43But I was like,
20:43I can make this offer
20:44for you if you want.
20:45But that is not
20:46why I want to think
20:48that I'm brought through.
20:49In hindsight,
20:50I really wish you had,
20:51you know,
20:51because I'm like,
20:52yeah, Kieran,
20:53he fought.
20:53But now having met you here,
20:55it's like,
20:55I would love for you.
20:56I would love to bring this out
20:57because me and Kieran
20:58have the best chemistry.
20:59Chalk and cheese.
21:01Chalk and cheese,
21:01but in the best way.
21:02I would have loved
21:03to have gone against him.
21:05Like in week eight,
21:05the previous week,
21:06we had such banter going.
21:07I was like,
21:08lads, day out.
21:09You were having drinks.
21:09And he's well able
21:11to throw it back
21:11and it's so respectful.
21:13I adore him.
21:14Episodes one and two,
21:15couldn't stand the man.
21:18There is no character arc
21:20more impressive than his.
21:22I really adore him.
21:23And like,
21:24with him as PM next week,
21:25I hope he fails,
21:26but part of me
21:26hopes he wins.
21:31The core circuit machine,
21:33Connor.
21:33I mean,
21:33I'm sure it keeps you awake
21:34at night, okay?
21:35Yeah.
21:36Didn't get any sales,
21:37right?
21:39Karen thought maybe
21:40it was because
21:40it looked too hard.
21:42You were like,
21:42I'm a fit bro.
21:44I don't regret
21:46showing the product
21:47can be challenging
21:48because I think sometimes
21:49with a product like this,
21:50you think maybe gimmicky
21:51or my co come and go.
21:53So I don't actually regret
21:54my technique
21:55nor how difficult
21:56I made it appear.
21:57I also think it was challenging
21:58because you were wearing shoes,
22:01a waistcoat
22:02and a little floppy tie.
22:04Yeah,
22:04and there was no room
22:05to breathe with those trousers.
22:06Those trousers,
22:07Connor.
22:08Did you see me thrusting?
22:10Yeah,
22:10I did.
22:11Everyone saw you thrusting.
22:13Yeah,
22:13yeah.
22:14Link in bio.
22:14Do you think that's
22:15where it went wrong?
22:19Well,
22:20let's see how the DMs
22:21are after this.
22:21Maybe that's where
22:22it went right.
22:25Trey,
22:25Lauren,
22:26what did you make
22:27of Connor's
22:27selling technique?
22:29I think it was actually
22:30a good selling technique,
22:31but just maybe not
22:33with,
22:33you know,
22:3470-year-old
22:35Ethel in mind.
22:37And maybe that is
22:39perhaps more
22:39of the kind of person
22:40that's at home
22:42watching than,
22:42like you said,
22:43the gym bros
22:43who are actually down the gym.
22:45So I kind of,
22:45I saw the vision
22:46and I saw the passion
22:47and I don't think
22:48you look defeated.
22:49I really thought
22:50you were giving it
22:50a good go.
22:51You were adamant
22:52that the product selection
22:53was key.
22:54You know,
22:55obviously.
22:56But did it feel like
22:58you went with products
22:58that teammates
22:59just were kind of
23:01excited about
23:01rather than thinking
23:02about what can we
23:04sell, sell, sell?
23:05So I would be very
23:06emotionally based
23:07and kind of
23:08storytelling based
23:09and I wanted them
23:10to have products
23:10that they felt comfortable
23:11in selling
23:11and selling a story.
23:12So with Levi,
23:13he had this story
23:14about his work boots.
23:15With Ciaran,
23:15he was like,
23:15yeah,
23:16I use a yoga mat
23:16all the time,
23:17but I can't flex
23:18those hips for anything.
23:19So that's what I wanted
23:20them to be grounded
23:21in a story
23:22on the product.
23:23So, no.
23:24No.
23:24I mean,
23:25I could have and won,
23:26but I don't regret
23:27the choices I've made.
23:27No mercy,
23:28I love this.
23:29I do think
23:31that you had
23:32and you showed it
23:33through eight
23:33this kind of ability
23:35to zoom out almost
23:37and see what was going on
23:39to kind of question.
23:41Some people thought
23:41maybe it was a little,
23:42you know,
23:43like you were getting stuck
23:43in when somebody else
23:44was PM.
23:45Yeah.
23:45But that actually
23:46you were saying,
23:47have you considered this?
23:48Like you were kind of
23:49able to anticipate
23:52potential problems.
23:53Was that easier to do
23:55when you weren't PM?
23:57It's interesting
23:58because I was never
23:59going to be one
24:00who was going to be quiet
24:00and not take part.
24:01I wanted to be there
24:02from the front.
24:03I felt like I had something
24:03to prove from the get-go
24:04because this is my energy.
24:05Then when it came to leadership
24:07and being PM,
24:08I did feel like I was like,
24:10oh, I actually do care
24:10about everyone else
24:11and I probably wanted
24:12their approval
24:13rather than actually
24:14grabbing the bull by the horns
24:15and making the correct decisions.
24:16So again,
24:17a great learning from this.
24:18I lost as PM twice
24:19and once as sub-PM
24:20so I'm a terrible project manager.
24:22What was the biggest thing
24:24that you will take
24:24from the process?
24:26Looking back
24:27at the whole series,
24:28I was like,
24:28I just wish
24:29I was this version of myself
24:30the whole time.
24:30And you saw different moments
24:32that I excelled
24:32when I was like this
24:33or outselling
24:33and performing.
24:35And even the boardroom,
24:36I'm like,
24:36oh my God,
24:37who's that guy
24:37with red eyes crying?
24:38And I was like,
24:39I had so much built up energy
24:41that I was maybe conserving
24:42or performing
24:43a more refined version
24:45of myself
24:46and I wish
24:47I just gave
24:48glamour.
24:50I wish
24:51Diva Supreme
24:52had entered the building.
24:53Do you know what I mean?
24:54Oh my God,
24:54I wish Diva Supreme
24:56had entered the building too.
24:57It's such a shame
24:59that we didn't get
24:59this version of you.
25:00I loved it.
25:01Either way,
25:02this whole situation,
25:04thank you so much,
25:05Conor.
25:06You're an absolute dream.
25:06An absolute dream.
25:08I can't wait to see
25:08what you do.
25:09Well,
25:10it is time now
25:10to press play
25:11on this week's
25:12boardroom bangers
25:13as our guests
25:14reveal the songs
25:15that they feel
25:15sum up the task
25:17of the week.
25:18Lauren,
25:18what have you gone with?
25:19OK,
25:20so it's always my favourite
25:21part of The Apprentice
25:22when you see Lord Sugar
25:23at home
25:25wearing his slippers
25:26and his little
25:27casual polo shirt
25:29watching the shopping challenge.
25:31I just think
25:32it's hilarious
25:32and so I've gone for this
25:33because he's always...
25:38Oh,
25:38that's a bit of you.
25:43Great choice.
25:44Great choice.
25:46God,
25:46I haven't heard the right tune,
25:48isn't it?
25:49It's so much lovely.
25:50Trey,
25:50what have you gone for?
25:51I've gone for a tribute
25:53to the fact
25:54that in the gallery
25:55when we did it
25:56was so much
25:57pandemonium and noise
25:58but for these guys
25:59it was so quiet.
26:00So I've gone for this.
26:03It's oh so quiet
26:12It's like
26:14reverential.
26:16It's like being at mass.
26:18We're dropping the price.
26:19It's so quiet.
26:20Dropping the price.
26:20Don't drop the price.
26:21You were a bit quiet at times
26:23in that gallery.
26:24I said no one ever.
26:26Yes,
26:26it's so quiet now.
26:27It is time to look ahead
26:28to our next task
26:30where our candidates
26:31will be designing products
26:32for pets.
26:33Here's an exclusive clip.
26:35What do cats like?
26:36Do you have any idea?
26:37Because I'm not actually sure.
26:38Do they have
26:39anything and everything?
26:40Or...
26:42I don't...
26:43My knowledge on that
26:43is very little
26:44so then I don't want
26:45retailers to say...
26:46Oh, they like cheese.
26:49That's mouse, right?
26:51Yeah, mouse.
26:52Love cheese.
26:53But the cat
26:54will be at the top
26:55chilling.
26:55Why would you...
26:56Oh, yeah.
26:57What does a cat like?
26:59What toys can...
27:01Cats don't really like
27:02to play with many
27:03toys to be honest.
27:05Apple.
27:07Fruit fits in with tree.
27:08They just love being...
27:09I think stick with the fruit idea.
27:11So basically
27:12it's just apple
27:13and a banana.
27:16Everyone knows
27:16they love bananas.
27:18Cats.
27:19That's going to be chaos.
27:20I mean, they're livid
27:21when they don't get
27:22the five a day.
27:24Not a small task
27:26to be fair
27:26because they've got
27:27a product to create
27:28and a brand
27:30under pressure
27:31at this stage
27:32in the competition.
27:33Where do you even start?
27:34Again, I think
27:35at this time now
27:36like I say
27:37I've always said it
27:37psychologically
27:38you've got to be thinking
27:39we're going to win it.
27:40This is the only mindset
27:41you've got to have.
27:42You've got to have
27:42that conviction
27:43because it's so difficult.
27:44So many moving pieces
27:45so many variables
27:46and you do have to play
27:47really as a team
27:48at this stage.
27:49Forget the individual
27:50as a team
27:51you want to win
27:51because whoever wins
27:52into that final.
27:54Well it's been a joy
27:54that is it for today.
27:56Thank you so much
27:56Connor, Trey and Lauren.
27:58Yay!
27:59Don't forget to tune in
28:00next time
28:01for more Unfinished Business
28:02on BBC Two
28:03iPlayer
28:04or BBC Sounds
28:04straight after
28:05a Barking Mad edition
28:07of The Apprentice.
28:08I'm Angela Scanlon.
28:09Goodbye.
28:09Bye-bye.
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