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00:00Hello, I'm Angela Scanlon and welcome to The Apprentice Unfinished Business.
00:04The show that chews over everything that Egypt had to offer, including the long lost parsley.
00:10R.I.P.
00:11Coming up, I'll be having an exclusive chat with all three of our fired candidates.
00:16Lord Sugar lets us in on what he's really looking for now that we're halfway through
00:20the process.
00:20And I'll be joined by the Lord's aide, Tim Campbell, and radio presenter Chris Stark
00:26to discuss all the away day drama.
00:28At least no one signed up to a pyramid scheme.
00:31This is The Apprentice Unfinished Business.
00:37It's Tim and Chris, everybody.
00:40Welcome.
00:41How are you?
00:42I'm very well.
00:43Thank you very much.
00:44How are you?
00:44I'm alive and kicking.
00:45That's all we can hope for.
00:47Indeed, yeah.
00:47Right.
00:48Task six.
00:49Everyone packed their bags, headed off to Egypt.
00:51Corporate away day.
00:53You know, fan favourite, OK?
00:55What an episode.
00:56A triple firing.
00:58Discourse.
00:59Yeah.
00:59Well, I just can't wait to see the smoke off Lord Sugar's fingers.
01:02How quickly and rapidly it happened.
01:04Did you know that was happening?
01:06Honestly.
01:06Listen, we never know what's actually really going to happen because the decision is ultimately
01:11Lord Sugar's around what does he want in terms of a business partner.
01:14Yes, you can make mistakes, but also is it right for him in terms of the decision he's
01:19going to make around who he's going to work with afterwards.
01:21And we just couldn't stop looking around what was happening next.
01:25It was unbelievable.
01:26We were on the edge of our seats, let alone the viewers who were watching at home.
01:28Great neck speed.
01:30Yeah.
01:30It was the speed of it all.
01:31It was extraordinary.
01:32For me, that was one of my favourite episodes of The Apprentice ever.
01:36Because of that.
01:36Well, it had everything.
01:37Everything came in three.
01:38I mean, at one point it was like a trilogy of Masterchef, Traitors with the Viper one
01:45and dare I say a bit of Titanic with the kayaks.
01:48Yeah.
01:48Best of album.
01:49It was incredible.
01:51And the ending.
01:53I mean, I just didn't, I didn't see that coming.
01:55It was amazing.
01:55With the shock on your face, shall we relive the moment?
01:59And for that reason, I've got to tell you, Megan, you are fired.
02:04Megan, sit down.
02:06I'm not finished yet.
02:08Wow.
02:10Because Carrington, I'm not satisfied with your explanations, you're also fired.
02:15And you, I don't like people who are negative, so you're fired also.
02:20So all three of you are fired.
02:24Oh, my.
02:28The speed of the second two.
02:32Unbelievable scene.
02:33We're at the halfway mark and I wanted to know from my best pal, we're getting matching tats,
02:39Lord Sugar, what he thinks and his advice for the candidates remaining.
02:44Angela, we've reached the halfway point and let me tell you, the easy part is over.
02:52At this point in the process, I'm not looking for good performances.
02:56I'm looking for potential partners.
02:59From here on out, I'm looking for candidates who can step up and take responsibility, show proper business instincts, and
03:10most importantly, deliver results.
03:13No more excuses.
03:14It's time to prove you deserve to be here.
03:19There we go.
03:20There we go.
03:20I think what you realise, particularly when I remember being back in the house, is that...
03:2520 years ago.
03:2620 years ago.
03:2620 years ago.
03:27Fresh as a daisy.
03:29Wow, I wish.
03:29Botox.
03:30Anyway, the reality is that you realise that the house gets very, very quiet.
03:35Because when there's all the candidates in there, this year we've obviously had 20.
03:38When it's reduced now, you see more space, there's more room around the table, there's less queues for the toilets.
03:43It becomes very obvious that you're at the latter stage.
03:46And I think what that does is increase the pressure because you realise how close you are now to the
03:50potential finishing line.
03:52So, you've got more at stake now.
03:53So, I think, actually, it increases the likelihood of mistakes because they're almost at that final stage.
03:58So, I think Lord Sugar's right.
03:59The pressure's on now.
04:00He's looking for somebody who wants to invest a quarter of a million pounds in.
04:03This isn't a joke.
04:04Let's get straight into Task 6 and the winning team.
04:06Team Alpha led by Priesh, OK?
04:09The epicentre of the chaos, it has to be said.
04:11The kitchen.
04:13What do we make of Priesh's management style?
04:16Well, I think it's energetic, it's enthusiastic, and it's slightly on the borderline of potentially collapsing.
04:27But he held it together.
04:28I think on tasks like this, you are thrown in at the deep end, literally, and you don't know what's
04:34going to happen.
04:34And for anybody to step up, I give them a big pat on the back because it is a risk,
04:38as we said.
04:39But also, you have to respond in a positive way, regardless of what happens, regardless of how much pasta gets
04:46thrown in a bin or how much spices get thrown in a curry, right?
04:49But I think for him, he was very enthusiastic about wanting to prove to Lord Sugar that he was the
04:54man for the task.
04:54I think he offers, I guess, what I might call soft power.
04:59Yeah.
04:59In the sense, he's not all bullshit and alpha about things.
05:03He goes about things and he is busy.
05:05And there is an element of chaos with it.
05:07But there is an accountability that came with that bloat that we saw today that I really respected.
05:12In fact, this is the episode that really made me see him in a slightly different way.
05:16The way he took accountability for the mistakes that happened.
05:19And I didn't think it was performative.
05:21It didn't feel like he was doing it to almost, I don't know, give himself a moment that he could
05:27hide behind almost if he got to the boardroom.
05:29Because you saw how much it meant to him when he got through.
05:33I think it comes from a genuine place.
05:35And that made me really respect him when he did that apology and fronted up to them.
05:41And dare I say it, he probably did his whole team some favours by doing that.
05:45Some roles were slightly, not quite as well executed.
05:49Maybe.
05:50Shall we recap?
05:52Where's the rest of the parsley?
05:54The leaves.
05:55The leaves, yeah.
05:56We need them.
05:57That's what we needed.
05:59I've thrown them away.
06:00What did you throw away?
06:01He threw the parsley away.
06:02I threw the leaves.
06:03I thought you meant, you said cut them off.
06:05Yeah, and put the stems away.
06:06Oh, you're kidding me.
06:07Where is it? In the bin?
06:08Yeah.
06:10I put them in the bin.
06:12See?
06:13Still smiling though, aren't they?
06:15Like beautiful harmony.
06:17Listen, I think everybody needs a dose of charisma in their life.
06:19Because when you're faced with catastrophic features, they're like, oh, okay, yeah.
06:23Almost quite out of character for her.
06:25I think she'd be like, I'm going to fire myself.
06:28Yeah.
06:28I think what you've got to realise with that is that these candidates aren't brought
06:33on for Masterchef, right?
06:34Like you mentioned.
06:35They're brought on to run an event.
06:37But what we're looking for is their adaptability in difficult scenarios.
06:42And Levi has never been in their kitchen.
06:44The second he started calling him Leaves, I knew it was gone.
06:46It was in trouble.
06:47Oh, yeah.
06:48Leaves was it.
06:49Leaves was the red flag.
06:50Green flag.
06:52Now, Karishma, Priesh, Levi, they battled it out in the kitchen.
06:55On the other side, we had Connor and Pasha and Lawrence having a whale of a time in the
07:00Egyptian desert.
07:03Tim.
07:04Yes.
07:05You were on tour with Team Alpha.
07:07It looked glorious.
07:09It was phenomenal.
07:10Being given the opportunity to go and find out the cultural history was really wholesome
07:16for, I think, for some of these candidates.
07:17And they were entrusted by the local individuals to pass on that information to the representatives.
07:24Yes, Connor put his own spin on his variation of the vampire.
07:26I was going to say, there wasn't much history now.
07:27There wasn't a huge amount of history there.
07:29But you know what?
07:30The corporate client had fun.
07:32And yes, they were sold facts and fun.
07:35And they may have got a bit more of one or the other.
07:37But what they ultimately did, though, I think, which was impressive, they kept in mind that
07:42the customer is always right.
07:44And if they make the customer happy, they can actually get closer to their prize of winning.
07:49And I think that was a good thing.
07:50And I think, Pasha, to your point about maybe leaning a little bit more to the fun,
07:54but it was very intentional.
07:55She was like, it's a corporate away day.
07:57But ultimately, what we want to do is give people a great experience and some joy.
08:01Oh, yeah.
08:01Them spinning through the boogies, I wanted to be our one.
08:04Yeah.
08:04And I just thought the energy was entirely different with them as well.
08:07And you saw it.
08:08They're going through.
08:09They're chanting.
08:10They're shouting.
08:11And I mean, you tell me, for the corporate away days, I think you're right, Angie,
08:14is the balance of fun to facts.
08:16Even if they thought they wanted that before they went there, when they were pitching for the money,
08:22I think the reality is when they're there and they're in the moment, they wanted fun.
08:26Yes.
08:27And I felt they delivered on that.
08:29Right.
08:30It is time now to welcome our first fired candidate, Carrington.
08:34But before we dig into the potatoes, let's rewind to when the chips were well and truly down.
08:40Guys, I'm really sorry. They sent back all the potatoes.
08:42All of them.
08:43It was really cold.
08:44It was a bit cruiser.
08:45In the middle, it was a little bit hard.
08:47Oh, my God.
08:49Welcome, Carrington.
08:53Thank you so much for being here.
08:56Now, we'll get to potatoes later on.
08:59How was it watching that task back?
09:01Do you know what?
09:02It was bittersweet because I got fired.
09:06Yes.
09:07But it was a good task, I think.
09:09The other candidates were full of praise for your cooking.
09:14Was that something you did a lot in the house?
09:16Because they seemed like absolutely zero question.
09:19I cooked a lot in the house.
09:21I think, task-free, I made pasta.
09:24I had pasta at four in the morning before we ended up on task.
09:27Every single evening, I was cooking.
09:28So, I was a bit confused when my food came a bit off-key.
09:31But, yeah.
09:33Yeah.
09:34And did having the full team backing, you would imagine that kind of, you know, lifts you?
09:39Or did it actually add to pressure the assumption that you could nail that?
09:44I think I had a bit of bravado.
09:46I thought I was going to do a good job.
09:47So, I was like, yeah, I'm chill.
09:49I think Rofner's like, do you need help?
09:51I was like, no.
09:52I don't need no help.
09:53Like, I've got this on my own.
09:54Trust me.
09:55I think the issue was that the PM team were two hours late.
10:00And the corporate clients were not impressed.
10:03Their bums were wet.
10:05Their clothes were a bit soft.
10:06Like, they were not happy.
10:07They were absolutely raging.
10:09So, did you not start the potatoes?
10:11Because this was what they kept saying is that if they were going to be late,
10:13then surely the things would have been over.
10:16Yeah, the maths is hard to math.
10:18I felt like that was a bit of a redundant point.
10:20Because if you're two hours late, I'm not going to leave the stove on.
10:24Like, you would turn it off, right?
10:25And it was triple cooked potatoes.
10:27I cooked it one, two, three.
10:29Did you though?
10:29The third one.
10:31Hey.
10:35The third cook wasn't a substantial enough cook, evidently.
10:40So, I think because they were two hours late, we put a pause on all the cooking.
10:44And when they came back, I was trying to do it really quickly.
10:47So, the corporate client were happy, we didn't get any refunds.
10:50So, I rushed my job and essentially, that was where it all went left.
10:55You got nailed for it, obviously.
10:57Kieran also presented, you know, bland fish.
11:03Definitely subpar.
11:05Should he have been pulled up more on that?
11:07Do you know what?
11:07I don't think Kieran should have been pulled up on it because he did a great negotiation.
11:11And that's where I think I went wrong.
11:13And I think even Baroness Brady said that I didn't do anything else substantial on the task to have a
11:19saving grace.
11:20And the reason being because I thought I was going to make a great dish.
11:24So, I didn't think I need to do like the bells and whistles.
11:26My potatoes are going to be unbelievable.
11:29I thought, I've got this in the bag.
11:31Like, make the potatoes, Lord Sugar, love it.
11:33Dumb.
11:34Yeah.
11:35And from the outside, Rothen had looked like she was running a tight ship.
11:39But she was a sub-team leader and the fish was an issue, as were the potatoes.
11:45She was saved, obviously, by her glorious dessert.
11:48But that's quite tricky when, you know, the stuff that ultimately took you down was on her watch.
11:54It's quite hard because Rothen would have been responsible for whatever the output was.
11:58But I think the challenge is, as you've rightly identified, you were so confident.
12:02And we loved your confidence throughout the whole of the series, right?
12:05It was one of the things that was really shining about who you are as a person.
12:10But...
12:10As well as the facial expressions.
12:12Her facial expressions.
12:13This was a real episode for those as well.
12:15Oh, I was like this.
12:16Oh!
12:17It was the face palm emoji in real life, right?
12:20Yeah!
12:20It was in real life.
12:21But I think the thing, when you put all of your proverbial eggs in the potato basket,
12:25and they don't come back to root, it's sometimes difficult to leave yourself with no room for manoeuvre, right?
12:31But, Tim, you know how we talked about how Priya sort of just owns that mistake?
12:35Yes.
12:35I felt you did as well.
12:37Yes.
12:37I felt your face when you saw...
12:39When they brought back and were like, sorry, you know, none of them.
12:42I could see how much it hurt you.
12:45You know, you really cared.
12:47And so I guess you're right.
12:49It's a shame that you got judged on a potato.
12:54It's funny how life pans out.
12:57I mean, how are you with potatoes now? Are you okay?
13:00I'll be honest with you, right?
13:01I can't make potatoes anymore.
13:03Not because I'm gonna, like, make them raw.
13:06But because it's traumatic.
13:09You're triggered by them now.
13:10I'm honestly...
13:11I'm so sorry for your loss.
13:13It's absolutely devastating.
13:15There's a redemption story here somewhere.
13:17There's got to be.
13:17Along the line.
13:18Do you think so?
13:18Yeah, I reckon you start a chip business or something like that.
13:21No, no.
13:22Too soon.
13:23Too soon.
13:23Yeah, I need to heal a little bit more.
13:25Too soon.
13:25Too soon.
13:26Healing.
13:27Triple firing, Carrington.
13:30Still not well.
13:31Did it come as a shock to you or could you kind of feel it?
13:35I think that because, like I said, I didn't have any other redeeming qualities on that task.
13:41So nothing could have held me in that moment.
13:44And so when Lord Sugar fired Megan and told her to, like, sit back down, I was like, oh no.
13:49Oh no.
13:50You could see a flash in your face where you're like, oh no, I feel like this might be it.
13:54Yeah.
13:55But I think because we all got fired, it hurt a little less, if that makes sense.
13:59Mm-hmm.
13:59And also halfway mark.
14:01You got to the halfway mark.
14:02That's a massive feat.
14:04And you got stuck into every task.
14:06You brought a lot of laughs and a lot of energy.
14:08What was your biggest lesson from the whole process?
14:13I would say that delegation's good, but also if you've got an idea, do it yourself as well.
14:20I think in the Egypt task, we were talking about getting the final activity for a cheaper price.
14:26I said to Kieran, no, you could do it.
14:28You could do it.
14:29Why didn't I say, how about I leave this negotiation and decide something else?
14:32But it's because obviously I thought I was chef of the year.
14:36Do you know what I mean?
14:36It was so lovely watching you.
14:39Honestly, absolutely lit up the screen and brought so many laughs.
14:42Best of luck with everything.
14:44Thanks for having me.
14:47OK, gang, let's bring in our next fired candidate who sadly saw their Lord Sugar apprenticeship
14:52start to crack in the kiln.
14:54But before we bring her in, let's remind ourselves of Andrea getting stuck into the task.
14:59Oh.
15:00Ooh.
15:02An expert here.
15:03Oh, wow.
15:04Handed a spending ban by Meghan.
15:06Oh, wow.
15:07Andrea.
15:07That is amazing.
15:08Andrea.
15:10Done it all by meself.
15:11The rest of her team give pottery a spin.
15:14Straight from her ghost moment, Andrea.
15:16Yay.
15:20Magical.
15:21We know you're a midwife.
15:22You're a successful letting agent, not to mention unbelievable at boiling eggs.
15:27Did you know that pottery was one of the many skills?
15:30That is a skill that I didn't recognise in meself.
15:33No, and I didn't get any help whatsoever.
15:35I could tell.
15:37Did you really?
15:38Yeah.
15:39You've got new hair.
15:41I have.
15:41And we're into it.
15:42Yeah.
15:43It's fabulous.
15:43Was this like trauma?
15:45You know, you get rid of a man, you change your hair.
15:47I didn't want anybody to recognise me, you know.
15:50I'd be that popular.
15:51You know, everybody would be going, hi, can I have the autograph?
15:53That's right.
15:53I'll do cover that.
15:54I'll do cover that.
16:09I'll do cover.
16:13Yeah.
16:14I'm probably one of the most positive people that you'd meet.
16:17I'm really, I were really positive in the house.
16:19The other candidates knew about that.
16:21It's tactical.
16:22And the thing is, in business, I always think, you know, you can't keep going and say,
16:27we're going to do this, going to do that.
16:28I'm going to point out the things that, well, this might not work or that might not
16:31work.
16:31You know, that sort of thing.
16:33And all I were doing were being loyal to project manager.
16:36And she didn't want to, she didn't want to do the pottery.
16:39But equally, if you watched it, I did say, you know, even though she'd said not to do
16:46it, the majority wanted to do it.
16:48So I would go along with it.
16:49Yeah.
16:49There were many instances where over the course of the weeks, not just in this task,
16:53where I think Andrea was pointing out, had seen like potential pitfalls being kind
17:01of perceived as you not going with people.
17:04Actually, weirdly, this episode's got me thinking.
17:06So thank you.
17:07Because I really relate to you because I sometimes feel that I do that a fair bit.
17:12And where someone might say it's negative, I think of it as, well, you're the person that's
17:18spotting the iceberg before you hit it.
17:21You potentially save so many situations by actually offering another voice to conversations.
17:26Sometimes actually stepping up and saying those things, it's quite hard to do in a group dynamic,
17:31I find.
17:31Yeah.
17:32And I mean, the pottery might not have gone down well.
17:34They might have absolutely hated it.
17:35We got it all over his clothes.
17:37Yeah.
17:37You know, like they might have been like, we didn't want to do this.
17:39And you know what I mean?
17:40And I've made the point of, should we do it?
17:43Should we not?
17:43Have a think about it.
17:44It's going to cost us.
17:45Could we put a free event on?
17:46Also, I'm thinking about outside the box.
17:48They took the easy route.
17:49Yeah.
17:50They didn't want to put the effort in to do an activity.
17:53I think the good thing is that you voiced your concerns, but you then threw yourself
17:57100% in the task anyway.
17:59I did, yeah.
17:59It's not like you stood back and then didn't do anything, and that would have been negative.
18:03Yeah, yeah.
18:03But I do think it was so palpable, that loyalty.
18:08And everyone was kind of getting whipped up in the idea of the pottery for obvious reasons.
18:11It looked like a lot of fun.
18:12But you were saying, Megan has explicitly said not to do this.
18:18Megan is the PM.
18:19Like, I'm loyal to our leader.
18:22And that loyalty, I feel, was actually not rewarded at all.
18:26I spoke like a true boss.
18:27And that's the thing.
18:28When you run your own business, you expect people to follow your direction.
18:32Yeah.
18:32And it's quite bold to all go against that.
18:35100%.
18:35Tim, backing your PM in business, you know, when is it right to just blindly
18:42follow and when is it right to challenge?
18:45I think it's never right to do either blindly.
18:47I am very much of the old school way is that if you are employed by somebody
18:51and they've given you a direction, you should follow that.
18:55However, the only caveat is that if there's something that is going against your values,
18:59health and safety or whatever, you should put your challenge forward.
19:02But don't just leave it there.
19:04Come up with a solution that mitigates for the risk that you identify.
19:08Loads of people are great, aren't they?
19:10Like, spotting what's wrong with stuff.
19:11But where the real skill is, I think, in an entrepreneur, a business owner, a leader,
19:16is saying something's wrong, but here's a better suggestion.
19:19Yeah.
19:20Being the last to go in the boardroom, did you think, okay, two down,
19:25I've just about survived this?
19:27No, not at all.
19:29I knew how many people were left in the process and they'd only had a couple,
19:34I think are one, double firing.
19:37We'd got to get, you know, shut us on.
19:41And...
19:41I lost you.
19:42Yeah!
19:43That's great.
19:44Sweep them out, just sweep them out.
19:45We're halfway through the process, week six.
19:48Now is the time to let's...
19:50Let rip.
19:51Yeah.
19:51But three.
19:53Like...
19:53Three.
19:54I wouldn't...
19:54But Lord Sugar must have thought that we needed to go.
19:58Yeah.
19:58And as Dan said on the end, thank you, Dan.
20:01We're getting rid of some of the dead weight.
20:04Thank you very much.
20:06Dan was a very good friend of mine in the house.
20:08There was a past tense there, did you note that?
20:10Oh, was it?
20:12Nicely spotted.
20:15Apart from your historic friendship with Dan,
20:18any highlights in the process?
20:21The highlight for me, and you'll see from my face,
20:24when you've watched the first episode,
20:26is sitting in front of Tim, Baroness Brady and Lord Sugar,
20:29and I wanted to go to Lord Sugar, hi, please, hi!
20:33Because I've watched every single episode for 19 years
20:37and I thought, he knows me.
20:40Why is he not looking at me like, hi, it's Andrea, you know?
20:44Yeah, and I was...
20:46My legs were shaking under the table.
20:48It was just...
20:49I was just absolutely in awe.
20:52It was amazing.
20:53Well, listen, it's been an absolute joy to watch you.
20:55Thank you so much, Andrea.
20:56Oh, thank you.
20:57Cheers and best of luck with everything.
20:59Well done, well done.
20:59Brilliant.
21:00Woo!
21:03Now, I have said the fired can do.
21:05They're like buses, aren't they?
21:06You wait for one and then three come along at the same time.
21:09So it is time now to meet our third and final candidate, Megan.
21:13But first, let's revisit the moment that she decided
21:15conversation was on the menu, not just service.
21:19Oh, yeah.
21:21Dipping into the party...
21:23Megan.
21:25Hi, would it be possible, it's just that we've got quite a few
21:28that haven't eaten?
21:29And whilst Megan's fabulous, she's spending quite a lot of time
21:32of chatting.
21:33And we've got a bit of press on the top and a bit of edible flowers
21:35just to match my outfit.
21:38So would it be possible to get the food out a little bit quicker?
21:40No worries, she's a social butterfly.
21:41She loves talking to people.
21:42Fabulous, thank you so much.
21:43I'll grab her, she'll be out of your hair.
21:46Megan!
21:48The social butterfly has landed.
21:51Oh, having a ball there out front.
21:53Is that just you and your elements?
21:55Yeah, that's definitely me.
21:57I think when my family and friends were watching that,
21:59they just thought, that is just so me.
22:01That's her.
22:02Where does this week's task live in your memory?
22:06PM?
22:07Yeah.
22:07And essentially fired for over-promising and under-delivering, really.
22:13But what did you think of your performance?
22:16So I have done quite a lot of events in the past.
22:1925.
22:1925.
22:21Specific.
22:22Specific.
22:22On paper, this is the perfect task for me.
22:26But what I usually do is I work with brands,
22:28and they like makeup brands, beauty brands,
22:30and it's a lot of influencers, so it's a lot of fun events.
22:33This was very corporate for me.
22:35And if I had taken influencers on this trip,
22:38they would have absolutely loved it.
22:40This would have been an amazing trip for them.
22:41And I think the clientele can't push it that it's the clientele's fault,
22:44because obviously we did our end of the bargain.
22:47But it was just a different event for me.
22:49I like this.
22:50Blame the clients.
22:51No one's done this yet.
22:53Why not?
22:54That's a new angle.
22:55Come on.
22:56New angle.
22:57Do you think the suggestion of, or the promise of luxury,
23:02or even maybe just the mention of luxury,
23:05and then hitting at a more mid-range might have been confusing for them?
23:10I get why it would have been a bit confusing.
23:12I think I really didn't want to say luxury.
23:14I've watched a show before, and I know when people say the word luxury,
23:18it sets expectations very high.
23:20But also I had to kind of use that word because it was a luxury client.
23:24I couldn't not use that word for them.
23:26So it was really difficult.
23:28I think it's a challenge.
23:29People fight faces in business all the time.
23:31You have to rightly in a sales negotiation anchor somebody at a high price.
23:36But when you get to the price where they've settled on agreement,
23:39you have to be very realistic of what the expectations are.
23:43And I think that's the challenge.
23:44The expectations were relatively high.
23:46Yeah.
23:47And then the service at the end wasn't meeting, that was it.
23:50It was relatively low, I would say.
23:51I was trying to be nice.
23:55You were absolutely adamant that the pottery was a no-go.
23:59And yes, pottery.
24:01Yeah.
24:02We had.
24:03So obviously I think if the kitchen went well and all ran smoothly,
24:07I would have been annoyed if we did the pottery.
24:09Just because that could have been the breaking point of us maybe losing the task,
24:14that bit of extra money.
24:16But because the kitchen didn't go well,
24:18I am, I know it sounds bad,
24:20but I am glad that Kieran did go with it in the end now.
24:22Because, because it went so bad,
24:24they needed something that lifted them up at the end.
24:26And that's what I've always tried to do with my events.
24:28I always want to make sure that they go home and have a good time.
24:31And if they went home after the food, they wouldn't have.
24:35Maybe it would have gotten more of a refund, I don't know.
24:36But that's great.
24:37It's so good to hear you say that because that's so gracious.
24:40And also, I think weirdly in this process,
24:43it sometimes seems as a viewer,
24:45that it's hard for people to stand up and go,
24:47I got it wrong.
24:50And especially if it's to someone else's credit.
24:53Yes.
24:53And Kieran in this instance.
24:55So fair play to you for saying that actually.
24:57But you're here.
24:59Yeah.
25:00Yeah.
25:00Maybe I've not.
25:01Maybe that's...
25:03You're right.
25:04What lessons have been learned?
25:07When, when you got fired, you were the first to go.
25:11Did you sense that he was going to go rogue?
25:14So when I got fired, I kind of seen it coming because I didn't make a profit.
25:18I was the PM.
25:19So I kind of knew it was coming.
25:20But when he tells me to sit back down,
25:24I, cause I've never been fired by a little chugger before.
25:26I thought he was going to like sit me down and be like,
25:28here's some home truths.
25:29Like you need to do this.
25:30You need to do that.
25:30But I didn't realise he was going to say, you're fired, you're fired.
25:34I was just so shocked at the time.
25:35You thought like a little feedback session.
25:37Yeah.
25:38The bit that we don't normally see you mean.
25:40Yeah.
25:40Like it wouldn't be aired.
25:41It would just be like off TV.
25:43Yeah.
25:44You made it halfway.
25:45Did you make any close bonds in the process?
25:47Yes.
25:48I've actually made a best friend from it.
25:50Pasha.
25:51Yeah.
25:51I'm really close to Pasha.
25:53She was, we didn't do many tasks together actually.
25:55We kept quite separate.
25:57But yeah, we're really good friends from it now.
25:59And you also brought a little, I mean, it's not like Desert Island.
26:02So you can bring some stuff into the house.
26:05And you brought in something that was quite well appreciated.
26:08Yeah.
26:09So I actually brought in like a streaming set for the cinema room that we had.
26:13And I actually think people might have been more upset that that was going.
26:16You took it back with you?
26:18Yeah.
26:18Because I had to bring it back with me.
26:20So yeah.
26:21I don't know what they were more upset about.
26:22I'm going.
26:22I'm taking my streaming set with me.
26:23Yeah.
26:25Come back.
26:26It was good though.
26:27We had a few karaoke nights of that.
26:28It was good.
26:29Yeah.
26:29Did you not try and almost suggest to other people that they can't bring you back because
26:34that would happen?
26:35Because of that.
26:35I mean, I could have at the time.
26:36I should have done that.
26:36Yeah.
26:37Okay.
26:38Egypt is in the past.
26:39It is time to move on to task seven gang.
26:42And next time the candidates will be trading strategy for stamina and facing a gamified fitness
26:47challenge.
26:48Here's an exclusive peak to get you ready for the action.
26:52I personally feel like it sounds like you've got a little bit more gaming experience.
26:55I know it's not exactly this.
26:56I don't have a gaming experience.
26:58Just because I've played a game doesn't mean I'm a gamer.
27:01Yeah, but it's still a lot more than what I have done.
27:03I'm just working with you.
27:15This isn't my area either, but we're all trying.
27:17Absolutely.
27:17We need your input.
27:21Good.
27:21Well, that's going to go well.
27:24That's quite explosive, isn't it?
27:26Wait till you see.
27:27Wait till you see.
27:28Mr Kipling, hey.
27:29Tim, give us a little teaser.
27:30I know you're dying to speak.
27:33Your face is saying things that you can't.
27:37I can't let out what the joy you're going to see.
27:40But I think one of the things that we always are cognizant with Lord Sugar,
27:44he's always looking to see how business develops.
27:46And one of his big things is technology.
27:49So bringing the established industry of fitness together with technology is
27:53what is at the heart of this task.
27:55And the interpretation is very interesting from the candidates.
27:59The interpretation is very interesting.
28:03That is it, everybody.
28:04Thank you so much, Chris, Tim, Megan.
28:08Brilliant.
28:11We have come to the end of another task.
28:14Come back next time for more Unfinished Business on BBC Two,
28:17iPlayer or BBC Sounds straight after The Apprentice,
28:20where our candidates will be powering up, dodging obstacles
28:23and trying to avoid game over.
28:26I'm Angela Scanlon.
28:27Goodbye.
28:35Thank you for having us.
28:36We'll be right back next time.
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