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00:00I'm Angela Scanlon and welcome to The Apprentice Unfinished Business,
00:04your weekly one-stop shop for insight, gossip and analysis
00:07after the finger of doom has fallen.
00:10Now, a word of warning, if you haven't watched episode two,
00:13then what on earth are you doing here?
00:14Head over to iPlayer immediately to watch the show
00:17and save yourself a boatload of spoilers.
00:20Coming up, I'll have an exclusive chat with fired candidate Marcus,
00:24I get a free business lesson from the big man himself, Lord Sugar,
00:27and I'll be joined by special guests, the Baroness Karen Brady and Will Best
00:33as we discuss heroes, villains and dramatic plot twists.
00:37This is Unfinished Business.
00:43Karen and Will, welcome to Unfinished Business.
00:46Thank you for having us.
00:4720 years in, Karen, can you quite believe it?
00:50What has changed in your mind?
00:52I guess what's really changed is the level of complexity around the tasks.
01:00I mean, in the first series, it was, here's some flowers, go sell them.
01:05Now it's make a logo, build an advertising campaign,
01:10do a bouquet, meet a corporate client.
01:12There's a lot more to it because the stakes are much higher
01:14because you're getting £250,000 of his money
01:17and you're getting him as a business partner and a mentor.
01:20Has the calibre of candidate changed?
01:24Do you think people have got better or, basically,
01:26is it a metaphor for society and are we all getting more stupid
01:30or are we getting better?
01:31We're all rude off the bat.
01:33I think the candidates have changed because in the early days
01:38you were looking for a job.
01:39Now you have to have a business.
01:42So you have to have, either have started a business
01:45in its early formation,
01:47you have to have an idea for a business that is credible
01:50or you have to have a business that you want the ability to grow.
01:55So you need the help to help it grow.
01:58So you're getting a different calibre of people
02:00because they're not the kind of people that want to work for somebody.
02:04They need the money.
02:05They need the, more than the money, actually,
02:07they need Alan to help them navigate the growth
02:10and the success of their business.
02:11So entrepreneurial elite, just untapped.
02:14Yes.
02:15And that's actually what they were called at the very beginning,
02:17weren't they?
02:17The first, this group of candidates are Britain's entrepreneurial elite.
02:22Cut to.
02:24The second task,
02:26they're asked to come up with a children's storybook
02:28for four to six-year-olds.
02:30After a dire week, I think it's fair to say,
02:33first week,
02:34there was an awful lot to prove, wasn't there?
02:37What did you both make generally of this?
02:39It sounds like, you know, child's play, really.
02:42I mean, you're right.
02:43They did have a lot to prove.
02:46The week one was,
02:48up there was some of the most shambolic scenes,
02:50I think, we've had on the show.
02:52But I love, I love a creative task.
02:55Yeah.
02:55Because there are so many opportunities for calamity
02:59and for people to make really glaring, obvious errors.
03:03That as a viewer, you're watching and being like,
03:06surely don't make it look like that or say that.
03:09And that's exactly what they do.
03:11On this particular task,
03:13there's some really key things about this.
03:15One, you have to stick to deadlines
03:17because the book has to physically go to the printers,
03:20be published, to be issued the next day
03:23so you can present it to the retailers.
03:25So there are hard outs,
03:27which is why I'm saying to them,
03:29you've only got 10 minutes.
03:30I'm not saying it because I want to make their life more difficult.
03:32I'm saying because if it doesn't get to the printers,
03:35they just wouldn't have had a book.
03:36I feel like you were giving them a lifeline
03:38and they were just flapping in the wind, frankly.
03:42Yeah.
03:43You seemed very frustrated at that point.
03:45I mean, you've been sitting there for a long time,
03:46I'd assume.
03:47Well, I think, yes, many hours.
03:49But I think what was more frustrating is
03:52they actually had a really good idea
03:53and they didn't execute it very well
03:56because they didn't set out with a,
03:58this is what we need to do in order of priority
04:01to get it done in the time.
04:03But at least they had something on every page.
04:05They did.
04:06We'll get to that later.
04:07I mean, the fact that they kind of let time slip away
04:10feels like maybe we've seen that before.
04:13Something we haven't seen before
04:14was the shocker in the boardroom at the end
04:17where Marcus chucked the real book over his shoulder
04:20and asked for a one-to-one with Lord Shooker.
04:23Did you see that one coming?
04:25Alan doesn't like that.
04:26You know, he accepts that
04:29he doesn't mind people changing their mind
04:31and he doesn't mind people owning up their mistakes.
04:33But it does show,
04:36he did say,
04:36I want to show you what a proper project manager is like.
04:39And being a project manager
04:41is also about leadership and being decisive.
04:44And he proved he couldn't make a decision.
04:46So it's quite difficult.
04:48And also then he wanted to swap someone out
04:50as opposed to bring someone else in
04:53and that all gets a bit messy.
04:55I'm a mum of three and seven-year-olds.
04:57I was obsessed, right, with this task,
05:00with the potential for this task,
05:01with the potential to see some very creative people let rip.
05:05But Karen, from a business perspective,
05:08what is this task, you know, kind of testing?
05:11I think it's testing their creativity.
05:14It's testing their ability to work together,
05:16to stick to deadlines,
05:18to produce something that you can sell,
05:21to stand behind it.
05:22And, of course, then being able to pitch it.
05:24Because whatever product you have,
05:26you are responsible for it
05:27and you have to stand up,
05:28you have to pitch it and you have to sell it.
05:30So it's testing a number of different things.
05:32Look, is he expecting
05:33a Sunday Times best-selling author to merge?
05:37No.
05:38But what he is seeing is
05:39what can you do within the skill set that you have?
05:42And as a project manager,
05:44can you guide people into the right place?
05:46But actually, the really successful tasks
05:49are the ones where someone knows
05:51a little bit about it,
05:52understands the subject matter,
05:54but more importantly,
05:55has the ability to put people in the right place
05:58so everybody's making a contribution.
06:00But when Marcus,
06:02when he made Kieran the sub-team leader
06:06and then Dan, in a wonderfully Passag way,
06:09said, oh, so what are you basing that decision on?
06:11Does he have his own design company?
06:13Because I do.
06:14And then Marcus completely ignored that
06:16and was like, yeah, you can just,
06:18you just sit there
06:19and I'm going to stick with my decision.
06:21It was a gentle rallying for position.
06:23Yeah.
06:23To my mind, certainly,
06:25Andrea was so confident
06:27about her ability to do this task
06:31and yet didn't listen to anybody.
06:35Well, she had this sort of,
06:37the mum of five came out a little bit, didn't it?
06:40I mean, she had sort of five people around her
06:42and she was quite keen on keeping them all in check
06:44as you do with when you've got five kids.
06:47It doesn't quite happen like that.
06:48I think the star of this particular task
06:50on the ladies' team was Karishma.
06:52She designed the zebra,
06:54she pulled the illustrations together,
06:57she gets on with people
06:58and I thought she really shined.
07:00I mean, it was that little animal
07:02that the kids loved,
07:03that the retailers loved
07:04and actually I thought the illustrations were good.
07:07I mean, you could buy that book.
07:09You might not make sense of the story.
07:12That's a whole other conversation.
07:14Were you team Zabori or team Astro?
07:17I was very much team Zabori.
07:20And you're right,
07:21I could imagine that little character
07:22having a Pixar film of his own.
07:25Like, he was really great.
07:26Team Astro, though,
07:28it was quite,
07:30I was almost quite disappointed
07:32that, like,
07:33the blokes sort of showed themselves
07:35to be so...
07:36Basic.
07:37Basic.
07:38And they thought,
07:39they thought they were absolutely hilarious.
07:41When they were in the car
07:42and Connor was like,
07:44fill up the sales poop line
07:46and then one of them was like,
07:47one, two, three, poo.
07:49Team poo.
07:49That's not even a pun.
07:51It's not a joke.
07:52Like, just,
07:52they were,
07:53they found it a lot funnier
07:54than the four-year-olds
07:55that they were trying to sell to.
07:56Yeah.
07:56They sort of oversimplified it
07:58to the point of
07:59it meant absolutely nothing at all.
08:01Yeah.
08:01I think, to be fair to them,
08:04other than Marcus,
08:05I don't think any of them
08:06have got any kids.
08:07So their idea
08:08of a four- to six-year-old
08:09is probably
08:10a two- to three-year-old.
08:12Right.
08:12Because actually,
08:13four- to six-year-olds
08:14are actually quite sophisticated.
08:16They do read.
08:17Yeah.
08:17They know what books they like.
08:18They know what's funny.
08:20The word poo might be funny,
08:21but just poo, poo, poo, poo, poo
08:23is not funny.
08:25Let's cut to the pictures
08:26because often
08:27that's the saviour, right?
08:28Andrea looked absolutely killer.
08:30Bop it in
08:32in her little cat suit.
08:32She looked good.
08:33cat suit, okay.
08:34But kind of stumbled
08:37as soon as she started.
08:39You, Karen,
08:39from the off,
08:40looked less than impressed.
08:43She decided to open the pitch
08:44when she's not a natural pitcher.
08:47As a good leader of people,
08:49you have to forsake
08:50the limelight,
08:52the interrupting,
08:53the hearing your own voice
08:54all the time
08:55to allow somebody else
08:56to shine
08:57because they're better at it.
08:58Sure.
08:58Because actually,
09:00Connor is a great pitcher
09:01in the boys' team.
09:03Their pitch was much better,
09:05but they had a terrible product.
09:06Our pitch,
09:07the ladies' pitch,
09:08wasn't very good,
09:09but they had a good product.
09:10So it shows you
09:11the product always wins through.
09:12It's never,
09:13you could do a great pitch,
09:14but people are not going
09:14to buy a bad product.
09:15And you can pitch badly
09:17a good product
09:18and people still want the product.
09:19But actually,
09:20if the pitch had been
09:21a bit more engaging
09:22and the story had been engaging,
09:26they would have got
09:26a lot more orders,
09:27but I did feel for her.
09:28What is the difference,
09:30Karen,
09:30between leadership
09:31and management?
09:32Because it felt like
09:33that started to,
09:35you know,
09:36we could see the cracks.
09:38Well, look,
09:38management is about
09:40setting out a series of goals
09:41and managing people
09:43to deliver those goals.
09:45It's very important,
09:46but it's not leadership.
09:47Leadership is about vision.
09:50And sometimes it's a vision
09:51only you can see
09:52and good leaders
09:53persuade people
09:55to buy into their vision
09:56and help them deliver it.
09:58So leadership is about,
09:59you know,
10:00much more than managing people
10:02to do day-to-day tasks.
10:03It's about having a vision,
10:05having the ability
10:06to persuade,
10:07to communicate,
10:08to get people
10:09to understand your vision
10:10and more importantly,
10:12get them to help you achieve it.
10:15Well, to buy into it.
10:16Yes, exactly.
10:16I think of the,
10:17you know,
10:18entrepreneur as kind of
10:19an ego,
10:20like a front-facing,
10:21but actually,
10:22the people who execute
10:23need to want
10:25that success.
10:27And that's why
10:28confidence,
10:30communication,
10:32values,
10:33purpose,
10:34trust,
10:34those are all key
10:36ingredients of leadership
10:37that can be part of management,
10:39but they have a much
10:41more elevated status.
10:43Well,
10:43one man that knows
10:44a thing or two
10:45about leadership
10:45is Lord Sugar.
10:46He also knows
10:47about bestsellers
10:48and Bob Roll.
10:49Now,
10:50he has not blocked me yet.
10:52Wow.
10:52He followed me
10:53on Instagram.
10:53Did he really?
10:54He did.
10:55It was a moment
10:56and we've been
10:57exchanging voice memos,
10:58but he had some ideas
11:00about how
11:02this week's task
11:03could have been,
11:04you know,
11:05executed maybe
11:06a little better.
11:07Now,
11:08Angela,
11:09I set them
11:09this task
11:10because I wanted
11:11to see how
11:12they handled
11:12actually created
11:14something.
11:15Now,
11:15the boys,
11:16however,
11:16got far too
11:17carried away
11:18with how funny
11:20they thought
11:20they were going
11:21to be.
11:21It doesn't matter
11:23what you find
11:24funny.
11:25You have to keep
11:26the reader in mind
11:27and the boys
11:28went too far
11:29with the toilet
11:30humour
11:31and even
11:32the five-year-olds
11:33weren't impressed.
11:36Not good.
11:38Still no goodbye.
11:40Karen,
11:41fair point?
11:42100%.
11:43Yeah.
11:43100%.
11:44You're creating
11:46the book
11:46not for yourself
11:47but for the customer
11:49who will be
11:50the parents
11:51of the child
11:51and the child
11:52themselves
11:53and the parents
11:53will only buy
11:54that book
11:54one if it's
11:55appropriate,
11:56two if the child
11:56likes it
11:57and three if the
11:58child can learn
11:59something from it
12:00or enjoy it
12:01to the point
12:01where they want
12:02to read it again
12:03but with the
12:04missing pages,
12:05the lack of
12:05storyline,
12:06it wasn't good.
12:07That's a very
12:08gentle assessment.
12:10It is time to
12:11meet the third
12:12candidate now
12:13to be fired.
12:13Marcus made
12:14a bold boardroom
12:15move but his
12:16hopes of joining
12:17Lord Sugar were
12:18absolutely flushed
12:19away in an instant.
12:20Let's remind
12:21ourselves of his
12:22firing moment.
12:23Marcus,
12:24you claim
12:25they could show
12:26me what a
12:28proper PM
12:28looks like.
12:30Well,
12:30I've got to tell
12:30you,
12:31you ain't shown
12:32me nothing.
12:35But Kieran,
12:36I think it is
12:38regretful that
12:39there's an
12:40attitude about
12:42you and whether
12:43you could be one
12:44of my business
12:45partners.
12:45But having
12:49said that,
12:50I'm going to
12:51conclude today
12:52that
12:53Marcus,
12:56you're fired.
12:58Thank you,
12:58thank you.
13:05Marcus,
13:06welcome to
13:07Unfinished
13:07Business.
13:07OK,
13:12shall we get
13:12things moving?
13:13A book all
13:14about poo.
13:16For the
13:16non-parents
13:16out there,
13:17Marcus,
13:18please explain.
13:20So,
13:20the whole
13:21concept of
13:22the book
13:22was to
13:23essentially
13:23potty train
13:25kids in a
13:27very humorous
13:28way.
13:29Was it?
13:30It was.
13:30I think that's
13:31a bit of
13:32hindsight.
13:32I should have
13:42really
13:42delved into
13:44the essence
13:45of the
13:46training,
13:47the kids
13:48essentially.
13:49Is four
13:50when you
13:50potty train?
13:51Is that?
13:51A bit earlier
13:52than that.
13:52Yeah,
13:53a bit earlier
13:54than that.
13:54But there
13:56are a lot
13:56of kids
13:57still,
13:58between the
13:59age of
13:59three to
14:00six,
14:01so on,
14:02that do
14:02need some
14:03more support
14:03with potty
14:03training.
14:04You've had
14:04a long
14:04time to
14:05think about
14:05this,
14:05haven't you?
14:06You really
14:06have.
14:07I've never
14:07heard a mention
14:09of a potty.
14:10It's been,
14:11yeah.
14:11So,
14:11so Astro
14:12was quite
14:13the,
14:13like,
14:14skilled
14:15trainer?
14:16Yeah.
14:17All right,
14:18I'm going to
14:18be totally
14:18honest,
14:18it wasn't
14:19my idea.
14:19It wasn't
14:20my idea.
14:21Whose idea
14:21was it?
14:21I actually
14:22missed who
14:22first said
14:23he's doing
14:24a poo.
14:24Like,
14:25let's make
14:25it about
14:26poo.
14:26Whose idea
14:27was that?
14:27It was
14:28the amazing
14:28Connor.
14:29Right.
14:30And Harry's
14:31initial idea
14:32of presenting
14:34a giraffe
14:35that,
14:35you know,
14:36goes into
14:37space to
14:38learn about
14:38poo would
14:39have made
14:39it a bit
14:40more,
14:41a bit less
14:41like vulgar
14:42instead of a
14:43national,
14:43if that makes
14:44sense.
14:44Yeah,
14:44that's what
14:44you mean.
14:45Yeah,
14:45but yeah.
14:46Where do you
14:47think it went
14:47wrong?
14:48I mean,
14:48how long have
14:49we got,
14:49but where do
14:50you think it
14:50went wrong?
14:51So,
14:52if I'm being
14:52honest,
14:54Dan,
14:55right?
14:56Whoa.
14:57Do you
14:58know what?
14:59Lovely guy,
15:00you know,
15:01has done
15:01amazing with
15:01his business,
15:03but he did
15:04not pull his
15:05weight in any
15:05way,
15:06shape or form.
15:07From watching
15:07it,
15:07from my
15:08takeaway was
15:09Dan didn't
15:10really do
15:10anything wrong.
15:11Dan tried
15:11to have
15:13input and
15:14he gave
15:14his ideas and
15:15everything he
15:16said was
15:16completely
15:16ignored.
15:17Dan wasn't
15:19supporting his
15:19ideas,
15:20he would
15:20present it,
15:21but he would
15:22present it in
15:22a way where
15:23it's like,
15:23I'm going to
15:24leave it to
15:24you.
15:25If it goes
15:25wrong,
15:25I'm not
15:27to blame,
15:27he didn't
15:28actually
15:28contribute as
15:29much as
15:29he should
15:30have and
15:30when speaking
15:31to the rest
15:31of the team
15:31members,
15:33he essentially
15:34was waiting
15:34for Kieran
15:35to fail.
15:36Oh,
15:36I have to,
15:37I find that
15:38very hard to
15:39believe because
15:40actually if
15:40Kieran fails,
15:41he fails.
15:42I mean,
15:43do you think
15:43maybe Marcus
15:44it's because
15:45he's not
15:46as big a
15:47character and
15:48he doesn't
15:50over talk
15:50people and
15:51he doesn't
15:52keep interrupting
15:53and he doesn't
15:54just want to
15:55hear his own
15:55voice that
15:56maybe he
15:57lost a bit
15:58of confidence
15:58in trying
15:59to get his
15:59point across.
16:00Could it
16:00be that as
16:01well?
16:02So,
16:03yes,
16:04to a certain
16:04degree.
16:05I feel as though
16:05the bickering
16:06between him
16:06and Kieran
16:07was excessive
16:08so I said,
16:08all right,
16:08cool,
16:09and bring
16:09Dan onto
16:09my team,
16:10supervise him,
16:11encourage him,
16:11help him,
16:11because Kieran
16:12wasn't doing
16:12that.
16:13And I
16:13wanted to
16:13give him
16:13a space
16:14to present
16:15himself in
16:16a positive
16:16light,
16:17which is what
16:18you did
16:18very well.
16:18It kind of felt
16:18like he was
16:18on the naughty
16:19step.
16:19Yeah,
16:19it did a bit.
16:20You did say
16:21to him,
16:21I'm bringing
16:22you so I
16:22could keep
16:23my arm.
16:24Do you know
16:26what?
16:26My first
16:26impressions of
16:27him on the
16:27first task
16:28was terrible.
16:29So why did
16:30you change
16:30your mind
16:31then?
16:31Why did
16:32you want
16:32to send
16:32Dan back
16:33and bring
16:34in Priya?
16:35You've
16:35changed
16:35your mind
16:36again,
16:37Marcus.
16:37So the
16:37boardroom
16:37is intense,
16:39very,
16:39very intense.
16:40Like,
16:40you don't
16:41have time
16:41to think.
16:42You've
16:42got someone
16:42saying
16:43something
16:43there,
16:44someone
16:44saying
16:44something
16:44here,
16:45sub
16:45team,
16:46I wasn't
16:46on the
16:47sub
16:47team,
16:47I don't
16:47know
16:47what's
16:48going
16:48on
16:48there.
16:49I'm
16:49hearing
16:49what
16:49they're
16:49saying.
16:50I'm
16:50trying
16:50to
16:51register
16:51it,
16:51process
16:51it
16:52because
16:52that's
16:52not
16:52what
16:52was
16:53told
16:53to
16:53me
17:17and
17:18yeah,
17:18no,
17:18I
17:18thought
17:19about
17:19I was
17:19like,
17:20no,
17:20yeah,
17:21Priya,
17:21you've
17:21got to
17:21come
17:21back
17:21as
17:22well.
17:22So in
17:23the
17:24boardroom,
17:25I fought
17:25to bring
17:26all three
17:26of them
17:26back,
17:28but I
17:28said,
17:28all right,
17:28cool,
17:28let me
17:28pick the
17:29two that
17:29I was
17:29originally
17:29going to
17:30pick,
17:30went
17:30back
17:31out,
17:31said,
17:31all right,
17:32cool,
17:32let me
17:32actually
17:32just swap
17:33out Dan
17:34for
17:35Priya,
17:37because
17:37essentially
17:38Dan
17:39didn't do
17:39much,
17:39but
17:40Kieran
17:40was a
17:41sub
17:41team leader,
17:41so he
17:42needs
17:42to
17:42be
17:42here,
17:42and
17:43Priya
17:43didn't
17:44do
17:44much
17:44as
17:44well,
17:45so you
17:45need
17:45to
17:45be
17:45here
17:45as
17:45well,
17:46and Dan,
17:47you know,
17:47I'll extend
17:48the grace,
17:49courtesy,
17:49you can
17:49go back,
17:50and so when
17:51Lord Sugar
17:51then said,
17:52we're all
17:52coming
17:52back,
17:53I was
17:53like,
17:53yeah,
17:54it's about
17:54to go
17:55down.
17:55Let's
17:56talk about
17:56this
17:56task,
17:57and the
17:57reality
17:58for you
17:58of the
17:59expectation
18:00of being
18:01project
18:02manager,
18:03and how
18:03it played
18:04out.
18:04Yeah,
18:05me being
18:06project
18:07manager,
18:07I
18:11there were
18:12a lot
18:12of big
18:12characters,
18:13big
18:13personalities
18:13that I
18:14had to
18:14manage,
18:15but I
18:15am
18:15someone
18:15that I
18:16feel as
18:16though,
18:16no matter
18:16how big
18:17your
18:17personality
18:17is,
18:18or small
18:18your
18:18personality
18:18is,
18:19you
18:19can
18:19contribute
18:19something
18:19to
18:20the
18:20team.
18:21I
18:21feel as
18:21though,
18:21I
18:21delegated
18:22pretty
18:23well.
18:24I
18:24feel as
18:24though I
18:25gave
18:25people another
18:27chance,
18:28i.e.
18:28Kieran,
18:29for them to
18:30really show
18:30themselves.
18:31He let
18:31me down,
18:33and I
18:33feel as
18:33though the
18:34onus does
18:35fall back
18:36on me.
18:36This
18:37will
18:41have
18:41heard
18:41murmurings
18:42obviously,
18:43and you
18:43had to
18:43intercept
18:44at points.
18:45The
18:45market
18:45research,
18:47what did
18:48you make
18:49of that?
18:50Because it
18:50felt like
18:50the kids
18:51were absolutely
18:52brutally
18:53honest about
18:54the book.
18:56Shall we
18:56remind
18:56ourselves
18:57quickly?
18:58OK.
18:59I saw
18:59a few
19:00smiles here
19:00and there,
19:01but what
19:02did people
19:02think of
19:03the adventure
19:03that Astro
19:04went on?
19:04Sure,
19:04it isn't
19:05that funny.
19:06Oh,
19:06OK.
19:07Did you
19:08not find
19:08it very
19:09funny?
19:10No.
19:11Do you
19:11want to
19:11hear it
19:12one
19:12more
19:13time?
19:14Wow.
19:15OK,
19:16that's
19:16OK.
19:17Savage,
19:18but also
19:18bang on,
19:18to be
19:19fair.
19:19They
19:19are
19:19definitely
19:20my
19:21unsung
19:22heroes
19:22of the
19:23week,
19:23those
19:23kids.
19:25Why
19:25did you
19:26choose,
19:26Marcus?
19:27Because this
19:27felt like
19:28a kind
19:28of pivotal
19:28point to
19:30absolutely
19:30ignore that
19:32pretty
19:33definitive
19:33feedback,
19:35negative
19:35feedback.
19:37As
19:37Rajan
19:38said,
19:38you can't
19:38polish a
19:39turd,
19:39but you
19:39can try.
19:39I wanted
19:41to ignore
19:41the negative
19:42comments because
19:43essentially that's
19:44not going to
19:44contribute to,
19:46if we're
19:46presenting the
19:46pitch,
19:48presenting the
19:48negative points
19:49won't help.
19:49I tell you what
19:50is important.
19:51It's important to
19:52listen to the
19:53negative things
19:54because you can
19:55prepare what you
19:56might say if
19:57you're asked that
19:58in a pitch.
19:59And you were
20:00asked that.
20:01You were told,
20:02actually,
20:02it's not very
20:03funny.
20:05Actually,
20:05doesn't have much
20:06of a storyline.
20:07actually there's
20:08pages missing.
20:10All of the
20:10reason you live
20:11there is not
20:12to depress
20:12yourself or
20:13put yourself
20:14into a
20:15tailspin of
20:16doom.
20:17It's to think,
20:18right,
20:18if these are
20:19observations that
20:19were made by
20:20four to six
20:20year olds,
20:21they're going to
20:21be observations
20:22made about the
20:23product.
20:23If I know
20:24what my
20:25response can
20:25be to
20:26overcome
20:26some of
20:27those,
20:28I can prepare
20:28a better
20:29answer as
20:30opposed to
20:31just hoping
20:32it's not
20:33mentioned.
20:33Yeah,
20:34I definitely
20:35agree.
20:37And Baroness
20:39Brady,
20:39you have a
20:39lot more
20:40expertise than
20:41myself.
20:41I'm just
20:42saying for
20:42future,
20:42so you know,
20:43just for
20:44future.
20:44You can't
20:45rewind the
20:45movie,
20:46you can't
20:46go back,
20:47but for
20:48future,
20:48it's important
20:49to know the
20:49negatives so
20:50you can
20:50prepare for
20:51them when
20:52the time
20:53matters.
20:53Yeah.
20:54You had
20:54literally just
20:55moved yourself
20:55in,
20:56Marcus.
20:57Was it
20:57hard to
20:58say goodbye
20:59to,
21:00you know,
21:00these kind
21:01of bonds
21:01get formed
21:01very quickly?
21:02I think,
21:04do you know
21:04what?
21:05At the end
21:06of the day,
21:06people need
21:06to get fired.
21:07Someone needs
21:07to get fired
21:08every week.
21:08I mean,
21:09so getting
21:10fired wasn't
21:11the hardest
21:11part.
21:11The hardest
21:12part was
21:12the relationships
21:13I built,
21:13having to
21:14just completely
21:14walk away
21:15from,
21:15you know,
21:1690% of
21:19them,
21:19in fact 100%
21:19of them,
21:20I'll call
21:20my friends,
21:21especially in
21:22particular someone
21:22like Harry.
21:23Me and Harry
21:23bonded,
21:24so he actually
21:24packed my
21:25bags for me
21:25and brought
21:26down,
21:27yeah.
21:27Was it
21:27Harry who
21:28suggested
21:28that the
21:29final planet
21:30is Uranus?
21:31No.
21:32Oh,
21:32that was
21:33Lawrence.
21:33That guy,
21:35I don't know,
21:36I'm not sure.
21:37I enjoyed that.
21:39I have to,
21:39yeah,
21:39definitely,
21:40not quite the
21:41age range,
21:41but nice
21:43playing words.
21:44We actually
21:44have a little
21:46section here
21:46called Boardroom
21:48Bangers.
21:49Will,
21:49what have you
21:49gone for?
21:50It's something
21:50that,
21:51you know,
21:51reminds you
21:51of the task,
21:52a little emotional
21:53recap.
21:54I've gone
21:55pretty route
21:55one.
21:56It's
21:57Natasha
21:57Bedingfield
21:58unwritten
21:58in homage
22:00to the
22:00section
22:01of your
22:02wonderful
22:02book
22:02that
22:03wasn't
22:03finished.
22:08Very good.
22:11The words
22:12you can't
22:12find,
22:14the pictures
22:14that you
22:15couldn't find
22:15in your
22:15case,
22:15but it's
22:16a beautiful
22:16song.
22:17Karen?
22:18Well,
22:18I'm showing
22:19my age.
22:21I've never
22:21heard that
22:22song that
22:22just plays.
22:23Natasha
22:23Bedingfield
22:24unwritten.
22:24I've never
22:25heard of her,
22:25I've never
22:25heard of the
22:26song.
22:26It was terrible,
22:27terrible,
22:27terrible.
22:27It was a
22:28moment in time.
22:28If it's not
22:29on the news,
22:30I don't know
22:30about it,
22:30but I've dug
22:32back into my
22:34distant memories
22:35of music and
22:36I have gone
22:37with Bucks
22:37Fizz,
22:38Making
22:38Your Mind
22:39Touch.
22:42Yes.
22:44Is that
22:44personally aimed
22:45at Marcus?
22:46Agent Marcus.
22:46I need to
22:47write this
22:47down.
22:48You do.
22:49You need to
22:50play it every
22:50morning.
22:51Dan,
22:53Riesh,
22:54Dan.
22:55But that is
22:55week two
22:56in the bag.
22:58Now next week
22:58the candidates
22:59are flogging
22:59food and
23:00honestly,
23:01I can already
23:01smell the
23:02panic.
23:03It's chicken
23:03versus eggs
23:04and I feathered
23:05my nest with
23:06an exclusive
23:07clip for us.
23:08Listen,
23:09according to
23:10my calculations
23:10we need
23:11about 14
23:11grams of
23:12flour.
23:1314
23:13grams or
23:1314
23:14kilograms?
23:1414
23:14kilograms
23:15because
23:151.5
23:16kilograms
23:16of flour
23:17equals
23:1810
23:18portions.
23:19So 8
23:19times 1
23:20is 8
23:20and 8
23:21times,
23:22OK,
23:22maybe.
23:23Yeah,
23:23I may,
23:23listen,
23:24we've got a
23:24guy with a
23:25maths degree
23:25here so we
23:26shouldn't be
23:26making any
23:27mistakes.
23:28Oh my
23:29God.
23:30Which one
23:31has the
23:31maths degree?
23:33Briesh.
23:34Briesh has a
23:34maths degree.
23:35The worst
23:35thing of all
23:37is that
23:38they all
23:39work,
23:40it's a very,
23:41very simple
23:41recipe that you
23:42have to scale
23:43up to the
23:43amount that
23:44you want.
23:44It's not
23:45complicated.
23:47All of
23:48them came
23:48to a
23:48different
23:48number.
23:49So they
23:50literally all
23:51came to a
23:52different
23:52number and
23:53they didn't
23:54trust the
23:54guy with
23:55the maths
23:55degree and
23:55they were
23:56all wrong.
23:57They all
23:57got the
23:57number wrong.
23:57No, I
23:58can't wait.
23:59I cannot
23:59wait.
24:00And that
24:01isn't even
24:02the worst
24:03thing you
24:03could have
24:03been.
24:04Not by
24:04a lover.
24:04Not by
24:06a lover.
24:07So what
24:08skills is
24:09Lord Sugar
24:10looking for
24:10from the
24:11candidates in
24:11a task
24:12like this?
24:13He's not
24:14interested in
24:15their cooking
24:15skills, he's
24:15interested in
24:16their ability
24:16to throw
24:17them a
24:17curveball,
24:18can they
24:18work together
24:19as a team
24:19in the
24:19kitchen,
24:20can they
24:20order the
24:21right
24:21ingredients,
24:21can they
24:22get the
24:22cross price
24:23right,
24:23can they
24:23sell at a
24:24profit,
24:24convince a
24:28corporate
24:28client to
24:29buy into
24:29their concept
24:32and can
24:32they deliver
24:33it all on
24:34time?
24:34Because if
24:35they want,
24:36you know,
24:36these things
24:37are, you
24:37saw at the
24:38beginning of
24:38this episode,
24:39it says it's
24:404am or
24:414.30am,
24:41it really
24:42is that
24:42time in
24:43the morning
24:43and we
24:43have to
24:44get up
24:44early because
24:45you've got
24:45to get
24:46the ingredients,
24:47go to
24:47the kitchen,
24:48make the
24:48food,
24:50make the
24:51food,
24:52get the
24:53food,
24:54for the
24:55lunchtime
24:55trade and
24:56it finishes
24:57at the
24:57end of
24:58the day.
24:58You know
24:59what I love
24:59about that
24:59clip though?
25:00I do think
25:01this is the
25:01hardest show
25:02on TV and
25:03I have so
25:03much respect
25:04for anyone
25:05who will put
25:06themselves through
25:07it and go
25:07on it because
25:08you have
25:08somebody with
25:09a maths
25:09degree who
25:11in that
25:11moment cannot
25:12do 8
25:13times 1.5.
25:15I mean,
25:16it's...
25:16Well, you do it.
25:16What's 8 times
25:171.5?
25:17Well, it
25:18would be 12.
25:19How would
25:20you get on
25:20at this
25:21task, Will?
25:22Well,
25:22if it is
25:23better than
25:24that,
25:24then I
25:25could do
25:26it.
25:26Look, I
25:27would say
25:27it's hard.
25:28It is
25:28tough.
25:29You've
25:29done it.
25:30I made
25:30it look
25:31easy.
25:31It is
25:32tough.
25:33But there's
25:34two things
25:35I would
25:35say.
25:36One, it's
25:38so worth it
25:38because one
25:39person gets
25:40the money,
25:41gets the
25:42mentorship and
25:42lives their
25:43dream.
25:43If you're an
25:44entrepreneur, all
25:45you need is
25:45the money.
25:46You have the
25:46idea, you
25:47have the
25:47energy, you
25:48need the
25:49money to get
25:50going and it's
25:50very difficult to
25:51go into a
25:52bank.
25:52Not only do
25:53you get the
25:53money, but
25:53you get the
25:54mentorship.
25:54It's so, so
25:56life-changing and
25:57we've seen
25:57previous winners
25:58do great
25:59things.
26:00And the
26:00other thing is
26:01it teaches you
26:01a lot about
26:02yourself.
26:03You learn
26:03things.
26:04You realise
26:05there's things
26:06you can do
26:07that you
26:08never would
26:09have tried,
26:10that you
26:10never would
26:11have done.
26:11And sometimes
26:12you're actually
26:13pretty good at
26:13these things.
26:14And that gives
26:15you confidence and
26:16it gives you
26:16life skills and
26:17you meet new
26:17people and you
26:18discover things
26:19about yourself.
26:20Will, who's
26:28your money on
26:29at this early
26:30stage?
26:31I'm looking
26:31forward to
26:32seeing Kieran
26:32grow and
26:34develop.
26:34He's a bit
26:35sexy, isn't
26:35he?
26:36He's got a
26:38fantastic head
26:38of hair and
26:39I for one
26:40currently am
26:41very jealous of
26:41that.
26:42But I
26:44struggled with
26:45him throughout
26:45the episode and
26:46then at the
26:46end I think we
26:46saw a kind of
26:47softer side.
26:48I think it
26:49was interesting
26:49that you said
26:49Karishma was
26:50really good in
26:50that task because
26:52I think there's
26:52definitely more to
26:53see from her and
26:54I felt so sorry
26:54for Pasha just
26:56sort of, it
26:57seemed to me like
26:58she was trying
26:59to, she's fairly
27:00bright, she's
27:01quite, and I
27:02mean this as a
27:02compliment, normal.
27:03She was just
27:03kind of trying to
27:04interact in a
27:05normal way and
27:06being shut down.
27:07So I think if
27:07she is, you
27:08know, given the
27:09room to develop
27:10a bit, I think
27:11those three could
27:11make it to the
27:12end.
27:14Very good.
27:15Well thank you
27:16so much for
27:17joining me and
27:18thank you
27:18Marcus, best
27:19of luck with
27:19everything.
27:20Thank you very
27:20much.
27:21Thank you to
27:22our fired
27:23candidate Marcus
27:24for joining us
27:24and of course
27:25to Baroness
27:26Karen Brady
27:26and Will
27:27Best.
27:28And if you
27:29think you
27:29have what it
27:30takes to be
27:30Lord Sugar's
27:31next business
27:31partner,
27:32applications are
27:33still open for
27:34series 21.
27:35For more
27:36details head
27:36over to
27:36bbc.co.uk
27:38forward slash
27:39apprentice.
27:40Join me next
27:41week for what I'm
27:41sure will be an
27:42absolutely cracking
27:43task.
27:44I'm Angela
27:45Scanlon.
27:45Goodbye.
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