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00:17Previously on The Hack...
00:18So, Nick Davis and The Guardian are losing the exclusive, but winning the war.
00:23Alan Rusbridger and The Guardian have been in touch with us at Panorama.
00:26It's the hacking stuff, but there's also this story on Jonathan Rhys that they've been pushing.
00:30We found invoices on his desk.
00:33Rhys to Alex Marinczyk and the news in the world.
00:35While Andy Coulson was the editor.
00:37There was a name that appeared in the top corner of Glenn's notes.
00:40Ian Edmondson.
00:41Ian Edmondson?
00:42You reported directly to Coulson.
00:44Someone I want you to meet.
00:45David Cook, Gordon Brown.
00:47I'm interested to hear more about what's happened to you.
00:49I think I might be able to help.
01:06I hear you're a fan of walking.
01:09I am.
01:11Do you have my favourite spot?
01:13Hell walking in Arden, sir.
01:15You don't need to call me sir.
01:18Policeman's habit.
01:20Well, I like Arden.
01:22Particularly, and this might point to a certain masochistic quality on my part.
01:27Particularly in the wintertime.
01:29Well, it's the colours.
01:30Arden.
01:31In the winter.
01:32Well, we shall have to go.
01:34You can show me the route.
01:36Oh.
01:37Oh, you're making me, you're making me quite homesick.
01:39Oh, surely you can get up there more often now you're not...
01:42Now that I don't have a job.
01:43No, I didn't mean...
01:45I should be able to, shouldn't I?
01:47And yet, I keep being dragged back to London.
01:52Glenn has told me something about what happened to you.
01:54Your, uh...
01:56Your story.
01:57Okay.
01:58The intrusion.
02:00The surveillance.
02:01The, uh...
02:02The meeting with Rebecca Brooks.
02:04It sounds a merry mess.
02:07Yeah, well, look, I made mistakes, as you know.
02:10Oh.
02:11Well, we all do.
02:13We all do.
02:15My father, uh...
02:17My father was a minister, as I think you know.
02:19In the, uh...
02:20The Church of Scotland.
02:20He would...
02:22He would hear everyone's stories.
02:27It's a great feeling on my part that I don't have the time nor the patience that he does.
02:30So I think it's...
02:31I think it's my responsibility to tell you why your cruel and unusual story matter to me.
02:37It's because...
02:40It's because I think this country has become polluted.
02:43And I think that we could all, should all, try to do something about it, don't you?
02:51You've, uh, read the pieces in The Guardian about the hacking?
02:54Yeah, and that's a friend of mine.
02:56Did you read the pieces in The New York Times, too?
02:58I did.
02:59And you know the work that Glenn is doing at Panorama?
03:01Yeah.
03:04Rupert Murdoch is trying to take control of B-Sky-B.
03:07If he does that, it's a valuable organization.
03:10And he will leverage the value of it to accumulate the debt needed to buy a huge multinational company, perhaps...
03:17Disney or Time Warner.
03:19He'll have control of our media landscape.
03:22And a good hold of America.
03:25He needs to be stopped.
03:28I agree.
03:29I will tell you my stories, and you will tell me yours.
03:33And then perhaps, David, perhaps we can work out how to help each other.
03:37What do you say?
03:40What do you want me to say?
03:47Because...
03:48You said professional look.
03:55I'm not going to say hi-bye.
04:00I've never happened to you.
04:03No, no.
04:05No, no.
04:10I'm not going to say hi-bye.
04:11us with cages tonight you're late who the hell thought press awards were a good idea a narcissist
04:17who realized it's an industry full of narcissists who pay to be rewarded for the narcissism i can't
04:23be here look over there it means the world you know they actually have members of staff under
04:30arrest and many more being investigated brass neck on them is ridiculous so the least i can
04:35attempt at some neck no i just want you here you think we're going to win something you're mad
04:41everyone here hates us i want you here because i want us to lose with dignity together i've missed
04:49you i feel itchy i hate this shirt it makes you look extremely handsome oh well now i have to
04:56go
04:56and play nice with some rich board members but please remember these people they're more frightened
05:02of you than you are a fan oh there's a difference between hate and fear
05:24ladies and gentlemen your attention please before our awards start this evening we have a special update
05:30from journalist nick davies on wednesday the 26th of january news international passed scotland yard
05:38three email messages which they claimed to have only just discovered in ian edmondson's computer and
05:44ian edmondson was sacked once in receipt of these emails scotland yard announced a new inquiry
05:51operation weeting under the command of sue acres i dismissed weeting as a pr move by the met until on
05:599th of february they released a statement the new evidence recently provided by news international is
06:07being considered alongside material already in the metropolitan police services possession
06:15couldn't be they weren't finally going to investigate the last four years of their incompetence
06:20all actions and decisions by the previous investigation are being reviewed or were they were we winning
06:29finally i certainly didn't feel like a winner show business shall we and the award for showbiz reporter of
06:36the year goes to it's steven moise of the news of the world congratulations steven okay and the award for
06:44news reporter of
06:45the year goes to it's the fake shake mazama the scoop of the year now the scoop of the year
06:54is awarded to the news of the world for its excellent coverage of the cricket corruption scandal
07:00and the award goes to the news of the world
07:06okay the moment we've all been waiting for it's the big one the newspaper of the year now the newspaper
07:11of
07:12the year goes to for what the judges say is a paper completely unafraid to take on the powers that
07:18be
07:19so the newspaper of the year award goes to the guardian
07:42jackie ames
07:43yes
07:45my name is ds slater this is dc grossman
07:49is it david
07:50david cook no
07:53not well um i suppose um in a way yes we are here investigating we're part of a new operation
08:01operation weeting we're investigating allegations of phone hacking
08:07do you work for john yates but we're part of the special crime director
08:12under the command of deputy assistant commissioner rakers
08:20great thank you you were found in the notebooks of glenn milk here
08:24this doesn't surprise me
08:27we'd like you to take a look at these details
08:30is this your police payroll and and warrant numbers yes
08:34how did he have these so that that's where i lived in 1977 is this where you worked in 2010
08:41yes and this phone number this is this is correct here
08:47this information here that could only have come from my police personnel file
08:52yeah we um that's what we think
08:58someone within the met sold him my information david's information it's um
09:07it's possible
09:11when was this known i'm sorry when did the metropolitan police have this information
09:19and that book was taken from all clear in 2006
09:272006. yeah and the met chose neither to inform me nor
09:33investigate this possible corruption well that's
09:40that's what we just want to do now mom
09:50glenn campbell nick davis hi honor and a privilege
09:55i hear that you're not related panorama i hear you're adored at the guardian
10:01so who do you usually meet here is this where you meet criminals or politicians
10:05i float between cafes and pubs like a butterfly at a festival
10:09like the panorama on alex marinjack that wasn't one of mine you helped a lot it was good you've
10:15got some particularly great hits in on jonathan reese i really liked your piece on him too
10:20mr a very good you writing more no
10:26i'm i didn't dave say i'm out coulson's gone it's as far as i can go
10:31don't look like that an engineer death but something i wanted people to take it seriously
10:36they didn't so i'm handing everything on trying to persuade island to give me belgium
10:43they gave you newspaper of the year that was for the guardian not me i lost my category
10:48you're getting somewhere nick i got somewhere look i know what this must have cost you cost me
10:53isn't half of it but no one no one cared the whole industry turned away like a complicit snake
11:02what if i said i came to see you today with an agenda i'm friends with claire rue castle brown
11:08the
11:09journalist and sister-in-law of gordon brown he's leaning in i took dave to see him and he now
11:16wants
11:16to meet you gordon brown gordon's been looking at your work and he thinks there's a way to use it
11:22to go
11:22further come on nick what's maybe i'm gonna cost you
11:37well it's uh it's wonderful to have you all here thank you claire and glenn for organizing it
11:43you know i have such respect for the work of everyone in this room
11:47and i used to be prime minister there does that start us off yes
11:50just about the mordoch b sky b bid would be a disaster for our country this hacking investigation
11:58needs better scrutiny than people have chosen to give it if people understood properly understood
12:02the hacking what was happening with hacking it may mean they rethink the b sky b bid we have a
12:07shared
12:07objective how we achieve that objective is well i uh i increasingly believe as as just claire and tom would
12:16be best achieved together and perhaps everyone would like some tea and perhaps everyone would like
12:22some tea just sit sit i'll pour no i'll pour right who would like to begin well maybe i should
12:31speak
12:31first i was recently interrupted an investigation room and showing details of my case and operation
12:38waiting that were well the level of intrusion was troubling it's just possible that operation
12:44waiting is the first met up to be run properly well the secret is john yates isn't running it good
12:49good so how do we help them where will they struggle well we have to get them to include
12:56jonathan reese it makes no sense to tackle more care in the race i've got invoices to show that
13:02they were both up to exactly the same activities prepare me a file and i'll send it to sue acres
13:08isn't that simple why i have access to sue through the select committee i can't promise results but
13:14it's a start no it was sue and i were ds's at the same time i've already asked her to
13:18expand the scope
13:20of the investigation but uh it'll mean more coming from a parliamentary perspective good what else
13:29you seem to all be constantly looking at me surprised correct me if i'm wrong but the problem we
13:34have is that the police politicians and press are all collaborating under murdoch's aegis we are also
13:39made up of police politicians and press and non-official opposition if you like so let's talk
13:48what do we need to do
13:56you uh are you having a nice time uh fine you know you're a remarkable campaigner nick did you ever
14:04consider full-time politics um well i don't know i don't know you um why would you say that i
14:12was a
14:12bit too suspicious of other people to be a politician something i struggle with myself sometimes
14:17and uh and i believe it because i've seen it on this case
14:23you're not sure whether i mean this are you sorry you don't trust me i think this is the ball
14:28that i
14:28picked up that i will quickly drop you're saying you won't drop the ball
14:35you know they um they came at me in every way as you might expect they blagged my lawyer
14:43they procured my family's medical information and they um this is quite something they uh they
14:49impersonated me to get in my building society account that's a lot i tried to hold a judicial
14:54inquiry into phone hacking in uh let's see now uh autumn 2009 after i read a piece of yours
15:00that was my first article the civil service resisted it i think is a kind term it did not
15:06meet the tests of public concern you know everyone uh everyone thinks they're close to rupert he's
15:13very adept at that he uh talks quietly you know all this he rarely disagrees he he asks questions and
15:20uh
15:21he makes everyone feel interesting it fascinates me how the powerful let him in
15:28i wasn't as good at that game as uh as tony when he came for me and uh and he
15:35did i was i was
15:36unprepared whether it was how i bowed my head at the cenotaph or how i wrote to the grieving mothers
15:41of
15:41dead soldiers yes sir remember you know i rang rupert to tell him that his papers were damaging morale
15:49and uh in afghanistan as prime minister i was asking people to to to to fight to risk and he
15:55was telling them article after article that i that i was casual with their lives with soldiers life that
16:00i didn't care that that to undermine that to make those young people feel
16:08undervalued by their government
16:12it's just not right
16:18sometimes you can tell that you're the son of a preacher
16:24you know he wants everything his ambition is limitless but he's overstepped here and badly
16:34we can and we should do something important to come to him but they started with you
16:42and it's going to need to end with you
16:45all of which is to see
16:49we need you nick
17:00dave dave yes sir how's life at soccer we're getting somewhere did i hear you've been giving
17:08orders to gchq that must be fun that's a bit more complicated than that what can i do for you
17:14john
17:15would you mind popping into mine for a minute sure internal investigations caught an email
17:21coming from your computer to mike sullivan at the sun which email
17:30so why is this a problem i said you'd rather be told it by me and he was useful on
17:34morgue and he's
17:34still useful now i mean you've got a good relationship with him yourself haven't you i also have one or
17:38two
17:38questions about the panorama program that went out yep i believe you're friends with glane campbell at
17:43panorama do you think you could ask him have we got footage of jonathan reese at his computer
17:49well he's quite protective of his sources reese is convinced as am i that the footage could only
17:55have come from inside the met he's threatening to take action again did it come from inside the
18:02met is that a further press request to pass information to mike sullivan came for you
18:06i mean he's your mate but there are rules dave and you know that i do and how's operation waiting
18:12treating you mr rules give panorama mike sullivan nick davies or anyone else anything about our cases
18:23and you'll be strung up for all to see do you hear me yeah i hear you
18:35i've got permission to talk about it with you and you alone i am privileged these private
18:40meetings you and i outside of editorial of course when have we not had those welcome back
18:48alan our scottish friend you know better than i do
18:53we can trust him right i want to say two things one you're a journalist and i'm scared that getting
19:02into bed with certain politicians well we'll lose our vital independence do it all the time i share my
19:09bed with all political parties and i hope i'm pretty fair at sharing the covers
19:23nick we've just removed a senior member of conservative staff and i don't want that
19:27dismissed as coming from the newspaper arm of the labor group understood but i asked about gordon
19:32and that's the second thing you don't go into a room with gordon brown and get what you want
19:39you go into a room and get what he wants he's ferociously intelligent and very used to power
19:46but if your interests align as i as i think they do here he can be a remarkable ally
19:57one last push is it and then i want brussels then you want your well-paid chocolate dream
20:05of course good but please nick take it slow to work what have you got the flood of cases is
20:13overwhelming the courts so they've appointed a hacking judge he's already causing trouble at
20:17the andy gray trial he said it's clear mulcair had been regularly hacking him so that's an invitation
20:22any man woman or creature who has anything in those books has been given license to sue and you'll write
20:28it up yeah why do you think they gave us this yeah good journalism none of them support the story
20:40our
20:40story guilt world's most powerful motive
20:48oh i love you darling yeah love you too dad doesn't know her okay it's mike and cheese
20:56she's uh she's not been sleeping very well i've been making her leave her phone downstairs most nights
21:02i'm not sure you get away with that i'll be my best also um
21:11i've uh been contacted by operation weeting oh have you
21:19you knew then
21:23the things they had on me i know i'm sorry should i warn you yeah
21:32yates came after me today and didn't land a punch good
21:38they're keeping me at arm's length but they did tell me a few pieces of useful information
21:43you remember that time sorry police got a call fishing for my details well weeting
21:49told me that um it was probably mulcair who made that call jesus christ
21:59i don't think anyone's understood the depth of criminality here
22:04destabilizing police investigations we were talking about a murder charge
22:08yeah look who i'm i'm telling right please don't laugh at me about this no no
22:15no
22:18you know right at the beginning of this i went to see rebecca brooks
22:24and i said um what you're doing is outrageous
22:29and you know what she said
22:31she said we believed that you and jackie were having an affair
22:35and as you're both public figures public interest was on our side
22:41they thought we were having an affair we were already married ridiculous
22:47absurd cruel i think is a better word
22:52yeah
22:55i have a source in the police who's been quite openly victimized
22:59it might stop the whining celebrity angle
23:03what whining celebrity angle people dismissing it because they think it's just celebrities whining
23:09get him on the record it's just he's been badly damaged by all this already you're nick davis
23:15only on weekdays have we met how can i help by telling me what the
23:19fuck you think you're doing stealing my story
23:23can we use your office
23:31which story have i stolen apparently you're mr hacking every hacking story carries your byline it
23:37it doesn't
23:39today in the paper published you didn't write one word of it
23:43no
23:47well aren't you going to apologize
23:49no
23:52you know the guardian gives up all this
23:55shit about what kind of world that it wants
23:56and yet this is well written
23:58fuck off
23:59i didn't ask for a credit on it whoever said i did was wrong
24:02right then who do we see next alan
24:05oh anything writing a story about the hacking scandal without consulting someone who spent the
24:10last three years having his life destroyed by it
24:15this is what works for you when you're attacked you just attack back
24:19no sometimes maybe you could have something this is about operation waiting it's a totally different
24:25thing how come i haven't seen you around the offices before i work alone my own hours they're
24:33supportive of it and what have you got on waiting contact of mine in the force has been put on
24:38it
24:38he's feeding me tell me everything no
24:45he says it's timid he's eager for more action what's he giving you each arrest as it happens
24:54neville thirlbeck is going to be at kingston police station between nine and ten so i'm there
24:57conveniently for the arrest can you uh might you tell your source um tell them to look into the
25:06initial select committee hearings and in particular the letter they received from news international
25:09lawyers because there's disclosures in that the police never got the answer to
25:18thanks yeah i will would be so bad i was working together you need to see this
25:27here's ben brazier in walking with more on this story first the denials that celebrity voicemail
25:32messages were listened to then they claim it was down to a single rogue reporter and his private
25:37investigators sidekick now the admission we failed to uncover what was going on we're going to
25:43apologize and we're going to pay up it all started absolutely right exactly the news of the world and missing
25:52it's brilliant is it well by admitting their fault and agreeing to cooperate in fact what they're
25:59doing is they're finding a new device for concealing the truth nick will it be cheaper
26:04standard rate damages rather than the million pound hush money they've had to pay out and getting
26:08this out in court now is next to impossible am i right well if you are uh for instance sienna
26:14miller
26:14and you do take it to trial then if she ends up getting less at trial than they offered her
26:20before
26:20then she risks being ordered to pay both sides costs which could be astronomical and so then yes it makes
26:26getting to trial almost impossible my advice is they've twisted one way we must twist another
26:33i've had a reply from sue acres on reese she's showing you that she says her remit is limited
26:41to more care in the notebook she isn't going near reese should we try to leak something put pressure on
26:46that way i've got reese specifically targeting kate middleton i've just heard he targeted john yates
26:51or we could do you think if we twisted an arm or two do you think we could get me
26:57up the list
26:57for pmqs that's a very good idea i'm not following what does sue acres want to be free to take
27:06the
27:06evidence wherever it leads her with a swift prod from the left maybe the prime minister will extend
27:11her brief you could even name reese good good hang on all of this exposes dave to scrutiny again
27:21no i'm ready john can i help please do good good let's box cameron in as the prime minister has
27:30previously said the hacking inquiry should go where the evidence takes it the metropolitan police are
27:36in possession of paperwork which details the dealings of criminal private investigator jonathan reese
27:42it strongly suggests that on behalf of news international he was illegally targeting members of the royal
27:48family senior politicians and high-level terrorist informers yet the head of operation waiting has
27:55recently written to me to explain that this evidence may be outside the inquiry's terms of reference
28:00prime minister i believe powerful forces are involved in a cover-up
28:06please please tell me what you intend to do to make sure that this doesn't happen
28:14the point i'd make to the honorable gentleman i know takes a close interest in this is there is a
28:19police inquiry a police inquiry doesn't need terms of reference the police are free to investigate the
28:25evidence and take that wherever it leads them and then mount a prosecution with the cps
28:32amelia hi saw you go in sorry a bit weird to wait for people outside toilets oh i've done
28:37worse got a minute sure two inquiries are being set up operation to leader looking specifically into
28:44jonathan reese good operation eldon never get out of the scotland yards need for strange name
28:49to investigate the alleged payment of crimes to police officers and other officials from journalists
28:54from the news of the work let's make them do this you didn't see tom watson's speech oh i may
28:59have
28:59done did you write it also the select committee waiting you suggested to my officer let's call him jingle
29:13fine it proved fruitful operation waiting for some emails out of news international and the met
29:19discovered on their servers some systematic deletions of course in particular one enormous deletion in
29:26january while they were handing over those three emails from me and edmonton bastards can we print i'm
29:33i'm working on it look jingle was grateful for the advice he said he can't volunteer information on
29:41active cases but ask him a question he'll tell no lies we've had something interesting come on what
29:54is judge voss doing i feel like we've only seen a tiny percent of mulcair's notice voss is being robust
29:58with everyone it's yielding fruits jenna miller is the sky under case it feels important where are we
30:03i've got something if you're interested but you'll need to listen sorry go on
30:10i've been representing as you know leslie ashley chapman yeah i read about it you're doing
30:15brilliantly
30:18you're like my ex you always get complimentary when you know you're in the wrong
30:23sorry i am sorry
30:26i heard you were a mess oh i i can see an island of sanity i'm i'm floating close to
30:33it go on
30:38i went to partner so that the waiting officers could show me the notes mulcair had taken from
30:43leslie ash and lee chapman's voicemail yeah now some genius combined the two names
30:51and gave me the details of leslie chapman remind me jessica chapman's father jessica chapman was one of
31:02the murdered school girls right the sewing mode it looks like leslie chapman's voicemail was hacked
31:08they hacked the voicemail of a grieving father i'm not sure but it looks that way you can't use it
31:14yet
31:17this could change everything i need to talk to the family i need permissions i need to be sure
31:24chapman's family i could talk to them that's not why i'm telling you this
31:29nick think if they're doing this to the chapman's where else have they been exactly
31:43jessica chapman well the sewing murders tore the police apart for a while
31:48she's sure they were into the parents phone it's in mulcair's notebooks but i can't get in there
31:53i've got to find another way in there you will i envy your confidence no i'm just um
32:03just happy to have you back
32:08thought that was better sometimes comes and goes
32:15you're just frying that cheese it's halloumi cheese you like it i'm not hungry anymore
32:20what no it's just i don't get it i mean i eat when i know that i have to eat
32:26i just don't get hungry anymore
32:29don't i what what is sympathy look i'm not being sympathetic
32:33don't try and pretend you're in any better state than me
32:35i've seen you mate you are this close to total collapse i'm telling you
32:38you know the story of the dung beetle oh god have i stooped that low what that's what you trot
32:44out
32:46that story quite a lot you know ask your kids christ pity your kids whatever's going on have
32:51you heard about the dung beetle an aggressive response come on that'll make you hungry thank you
33:02you want to know how i do it nick hmm i focus on the details always the next detail
33:11i've been phobic of blood ever since a body exploded on me body exploded on you yeah well
33:17an older man full of hernias normally when a pathologist scalpel enters a cadaver you hear a hiss
33:24well this time it exploded blood was everywhere i was covered in it but i was in homicide so
33:30i got into pathology as a key part of my job right so focused on the details ears toes even
33:40how the wound
33:41looked the blood i made disappear so how do you do it nick
33:54so
33:55i
33:55i
34:22i
34:23i
34:23i
34:41Tell me I'm mad.
34:45It's a pleasure.
34:46I was in the database, News of the World, April 14th, 2002, 250 words long, page 9.
34:52It claims that voicemail messages were sent to Millie's phone after she disappeared.
34:58Millie Dowler, police say voicemails were left by a mentally disturbed woman who has hoaxed previous inquiries.
35:05Even quotes what the message said.
35:08Hello, we're ringing because we have some interviews starting. Can you call me back? Thank you, bye-bye.
35:16This is six days after Millie had disappeared.
35:22The final edition of the paper, that reference was removed.
35:33Because they might have realized what a booby they'd made.
35:36Charlotte has evidence that they hacked Jessica Chapman's father on the Soham case.
35:40We can't get close to that. That was the family.
35:42But this is the guy herself.
35:45Rebecca was editor then.
35:47This was under her aegis.
35:52Can you confirm this?
35:53I think so.
35:59Is this as big as I think it is?
36:03Yes, it is.
36:07Make sure it stands up.
36:15Oh, hi. Any fruit?
36:17Jingle says they've been investigating.
36:19Is that confirmation? Are they confirming that it happened?
36:21Yes. There is a page on Dowler in Mulcair's notebooks.
36:25Right. We need to be absolutely watertight.
36:28Nick, he also says they're pursuing a line of inquiry.
36:31They deleted messages because the voicemail box was full.
36:35They deleted messages?
36:36I'll get us a firm, anonymous quote from Jingle.
36:38Okay. Thanks, McGee.
36:39Bye.
36:39Bye, bye, bye.
36:42I have a source from Inside Wheating.
36:44I've got the article.
36:45Glenn, I've got a good source saying that Surrey police knew about it
36:48and the Dowler family did not.
36:50Well, this is it.
36:52This is it.
36:53I don't want to believe.
36:56But I do.
36:57The source is clear.
36:58Stuart Kuttner...
36:59Remember him?
37:00...even called Surrey police.
37:02He didn't just hear the voicemail, he followed up on it.
37:04They even think they deleted her answer phone messages
37:07to allow space for messages to be given,
37:09which made the family think she was still alive.
37:12Oh, God.
37:13Do you know, if we can land this, this changes everything.
37:18How?
37:19A child.
37:20A dead child's phone.
37:22It's despicable.
37:24You know, part of the British public think that celebrities, politicians,
37:27journalists even deserve everything that they get.
37:29But when an innocent is harmed,
37:32an innocent already wronged,
37:35trust me,
37:36the news of the world will not be forgiven for this.
37:44Hi, this is Dave.
37:46Leave a message.
37:47David, I've been offered to go on to Channel 4.
37:51I don't have a career to protect,
37:53and I think I should do it.
37:54If you have a problem with any of this,
37:56could you just call me or text me, please?
38:31Mrs. Dowler, my name is Nick David.
38:33I know.
38:33They said you'd be coming by.
38:35I've just been watching you on YouTube.
38:38Come on, come in.
38:51So the police are keeping you...
38:53Up to date with it all, yes.
38:56Operation Wheating, a good team, it seems.
38:59They say it was true.
39:01Our daughter was hacked.
39:04Yes.
39:06You tell us why.
39:10Why, sorry?
39:12What we don't understand is why someone would do this.
39:16You're a journalist.
39:18Can you explain?
39:25I think they thought there was a good story in it.
39:29A good story?
39:31They wanted to either to find her or to find something printable about her.
39:37So the phone promised all those things.
39:40But we'd only just lost her.
39:42But we'd only just lost her, didn't they know it was wrong?
39:46I think they didn't consider that.
39:48And they know it would hurt us.
39:55Millie...
39:57Millie...
39:59At that time, Millie was the most famous person in the UK.
40:03And everyone wanted to read about her.
40:07And I'm afraid they needed to sell their newspaper.
40:11And now you're here.
40:14Someone else selling a newspaper?
40:15I am.
40:20Yes, but I'm hoping...
40:24What we are doing...
40:28Will help expose a wrong that was done to your daughter.
40:32However, yes, we are selling newspapers.
40:36And I know that all this will be bringing her
40:39back into the spotlight again.
40:41And I know...
40:42No, that's painful.
40:45Just slightly.
40:47Yeah.
40:51But you should do it all the same.
40:54You have our permission, Nick.
40:56If you needed it, that is.
41:04Always can never get used to microphones
41:06being poked everywhere.
41:07I'm used to it.
41:09You cry much.
41:10Of course.
41:11Of course you are.
41:12More used to it than me.
41:14Oh.
41:20Do you want to share the byline with Amelia?
41:23Our source helped confirm it.
41:25It needs something...
41:27clearer.
41:29Is the world targeted?
41:30Illegally targeted.
41:31Good.
41:32Illegally targeted.
41:33Missing schoolgirl, Millie Dowler, and her family.
41:37In...
41:37In dates.
41:38Yeah.
41:39Interfering with the police investigation into...
41:42No.
41:43Interfering with police inquiries into her disappearance.
41:47And deleted messages.
41:49Then what the family believed.
41:53She's alive.
41:56The lie of that.
41:57Do we have a source and a secondary source?
41:59Yes, we do.
42:00Have we spoken to Scotland Yard?
42:02Of course.
42:03I even asked for a quote.
42:06This is...
42:08quite something.
42:11Channel 4 News can tonight reveal that allegations have been aired that a metropolitan police detective
42:17was put under surveillance by the News of the World journalists and his personal details were targeted.
42:23The former Crimewatch presenter and detective, Jackie Haynes, has spoken out for the first time.
42:30So, Jackie, you were approached by Operation Wheating.
42:33What did they show you?
42:37They showed me various sheets of paper, which I was told came from Glenn Mulcair's diaries and notes,
42:46and sat there and read the extent to which he had delved into my private life.
42:53And it was quite a body blow.
42:55I want to know who instigated the surveillance and the research that was done on us.
43:01I would like to know how they got and who they got that personal information from about us.
43:08I would like to know what the purpose of it was from them.
43:13Do you think there was an attempt here to interfere with your ex-husband's criminal investigation?
43:20And if so, what...
43:21Where's the evidence for that?
43:24It's very difficult when you look at the order in which things happened, the chronology of this.
43:32Not to at least want to shine a light on it and say, you know,
43:36how is it that the day after that appeal went out on Crimewatch that this started to happen?
43:41And it's very difficult not to come to that conclusion that they were somehow complicit in all this,
43:46or someone within the organization was.
43:49Complicit in what exactly?
43:50In trying to discredit David or myself.
44:33So, Garfield would call us a man.
44:34No way!
44:39He knew what he took from funciona.
44:42But it was forever.
44:42He knew what he did for his father when he was arrogant.
44:44Look!
44:45We can do it for yourself anyway.
44:48I know what he did for himself.
44:50I knew what he did for a man doing for computers.
44:50His lady now is done for things for himself.
45:12Of course they didn't print it.
45:18And so...
45:20It finally begins.
45:25More revelations.
45:26The pressure on the news of the world grows with...
45:28Another day of dramatic development.
45:29Shocking story.
45:30It is alleged that Glenn Mulcair...
45:32Hacked into the mobile phone of the murdered schoolgirl Millie Dowler.
45:36Well, this poor girl's dead and they're trying to get stories.
45:39There is a new allegation that the tabloid may have hacked into the phones of the relatives of soldiers killed
45:44in Iraq.
45:45If these actions are proved to have been verified, I'm appalled.
45:49I find it quite disgusting.
45:51Tonight, Chief Executive Rebecca Brooks says we're told that she's shocked and that she knew nothing about it.
45:56Today is the anniversary of 7-7.
45:59Relatives of victims of the London bombings may also have had their phones hacked into.
46:03Somebody was listening to that.
46:05It's a violation, isn't it?
46:06An extraordinary moment in British journalism.
46:09The news of the world is to close.
46:11What happened, happened very, very quickly.
46:13It's like a bomb's hit the place.
46:15Those decent people up there have been thrown out of a job today.
46:17The sense that everyone gets is that Rupert Murdoch is getting rid of the news of the world in order
46:22to protect taking over B-Sky-B.
46:25I'm interested in those who were responsible being brought to justice.
46:29Scotland Yard confirmed today that it had received documents suggesting a number of its officers were given inappropriate payments by
46:35News International.
46:36Paying this for information is a criminal offence.
46:40It's corrupt.
46:42It's bribery.
46:42David Cameron's former head of communications is arrested over corruption and phone hacking.
46:48The decision to hire him was mine and I take full responsibility for it.
46:51An awful lot I'd like to say but I can't.
46:53The pressure is mounting on Rebecca Brooks.
46:56Both her and James Murdoch should be leaving their deaths.
47:00The Prime Minister has announced details of the Independent Public Enquiry led by Lord Justice Leveson.
47:05We'll have the power to summon and question newspaper proprietors, journalists, police and politicians.
47:11I recognise the vital importance of reaching a number of conclusions and I will strive to do so.
47:17Rebecca Brooks who finally bowed to pressure and resigned.
47:20For the past ten days she's been at the heart of the storm.
47:24Now she's decided to step away.
47:26Assistant Commissioner John Yates has also quit.
47:28It is with great regret that I make this decision.
47:32The mighty Murdoch Empire has suffered its most humiliating blow yet as it suddenly dropped its bid to take control
47:39of B-Sky-B.
47:40Murdoch has abandoned his bid for B-Sky-B but will he face wider consequences in relation to the phone
47:47hacking scandal?
47:48What will come next in this shopping itself?
47:58And I heard, as it were, the noise of thunder.
48:03One of the four beasts saying,
48:06Come and see.
48:09And I saw,
48:11and behold,
48:13a white horse.
48:16a white horse.
48:45The juicy.
48:53You
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