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01:02Another all-nighter?
01:03Eh?
01:05Eh, yeah.
01:07Must be getting fed up with it.
01:09I'm not gonna lie, it's murder on the back.
01:14You must be awfully busy these days, eh?
01:16Eh, well, nobody else is gonna do it.
01:20Better crack on.
01:21Sam?
01:23What's going on?
01:26We're busy.
01:27You know what it's like, you're self-employed.
01:30It's never been that busy I have to keep at work.
01:32Yeah, well, that's showbiz.
01:36Feast of famine.
01:44Feast?
01:44Aye.
01:47I don't like the time to eat, let alone cook these days.
01:56All right.
01:57All right.
01:58I'm sleeping in the back.
02:00It's no big deal.
02:04Let's get a coffee.
02:11Are you sure?
02:13Harry called Tyler to pick him up at the airport later, so yeah.
02:18If his girlfriend grass is ours.
02:20I'm surprised she hasn't already.
02:22Maybe she has.
02:23Nah.
02:24If Harry knew, we'd know all about it.
02:25He'd never sit on this.
02:26Ah.
02:28Fair point.
02:31I'm gonna talk to Emma.
02:33She's not gonna be a problem for much longer.
02:37I canna bark out.
02:39Mikey's recording the podcast and I knew her.
02:41You could make up any number of excuses.
02:44It's just too close to the bone.
02:46You don't say.
02:47I'd rather pull my tail nails out than chat murder with a copper.
02:51So, don't do it.
02:52It's got to look half a weird backing out at the last minute after I said aye.
02:57Better that than saying something you shouldn't.
03:00I won't.
03:01I'm nae daft.
03:02One of I have got a strategy.
03:05Say it at the minimum.
03:06Less margin for error.
03:07Like you've ever been able to do that?
03:09I can hold my tongue when I need to.
03:12Look.
03:13If I don't do it, he's got to ask you again and nae offence,
03:16but I'm the better bet on this one.
03:19Do not worry I can handle this, all right?
03:23I'd better go.
03:24I'll let you can as soon as I'm done.
03:36So why are you dosing in the back room?
03:39I'm between accommodations at the moment.
03:42Aye?
03:43Yeah, it's just a stopgap till I sort myself out.
03:48But you've got somewhere lined up.
03:53Um...
03:54You're homeless?
03:56No.
03:59Well...
03:59Kinda.
04:01Just cannae find anywhere.
04:03Hell no.
04:04Well, I'm self-employed.
04:06I'm not gonna get a mortgage at my age and renting's expensive.
04:10Business is slow this time of year, so...
04:12I cannae afford to rent somewhere on my own and...
04:16It's sheer than things no for me.
04:19I didn't realise.
04:23What's that they say?
04:26Everyone's just three paychecks away from being on the streets.
04:32Never thought I'd actually get there.
04:35Aye.
04:36May as well tattoo failure on my forehead.
04:39You know, you think...
04:40You know where you're going to be by a certain point in your life.
04:44Wife.
04:44Family.
04:45Home.
04:47And then...
04:48You just get hit by a series of curveballs.
04:51Aye.
04:52You could keep it mints.
04:54Oh, no.
04:55No, I wasna angle it.
04:56I know that.
04:57But you're welcome.
04:59No.
05:00No, I really couldn't.
05:01It's nae big deal.
05:02It's just a sofa.
05:03But it assures until you get yourself sorted.
05:05Me?
05:07On a sofa?
05:08Have you seen the length of my stems?
05:11Hm?
05:13Can they no bend right?
05:16Aye.
05:17I know enough to get on your wee two-seater.
05:19I'm a talent agent.
05:21Not a contortionist.
05:23But I'm no sharing a bed with you.
05:24You should be so lucky.
05:28But, um...
05:29Thanks for the offer, though.
05:32I'll...
05:33I'll...
05:33I'll think of something.
05:44Joe!
05:46Joe!
05:46What are you up to this afternoon?
05:48Why?
05:49Well, I'm feeling energetic and I thought you might be able to pick me in for the wee training sesh.
05:54Only if you're not too busy.
05:56Sorry.
05:58Right, what about tomorrow?
05:59Got a prior.
06:01Right.
06:02No, hang on, but...
06:04What's going on?
06:05You've been avoiding me?
06:06Yeah, maybe because I don't like being treated like an idiot.
06:09Yeah.
06:10I heard you and Gran talking about me.
06:12About how you're going to keep an eye.
06:14Pretending that you're wanting training when you're actually spying on me.
06:17Yeah, but I do want training.
06:18You and Gran can find some other wee addict to rehab.
06:21Because I don't need it.
06:23Right?
06:30Emma.
06:31Can we have a chat?
06:33With you?
06:34You've got to be kidding.
06:35I think it'll be in both our interests.
06:37You don't have anything to say that I want to hear.
06:39Are you sure about that?
06:43Look, just give me five minutes.
06:46You've got two.
06:51Poor guy, really had it all going on.
06:54One day he's in love.
06:55And he's in place.
06:56His whole future ahead of him.
06:58Who, Chris?
06:59No, Sam.
07:00I was just telling you.
07:02Are you even listening?
07:03Course I am.
07:04He thinks he's all sorted.
07:05Next thing he's out in the cold.
07:06Talking a witch.
07:07I mean, the guy's 50 odd and he's homeless.
07:14You going somewhere?
07:15No.
07:16Whose is that then?
07:17First I've been trying to tell you.
07:19If you'd let me get a word in.
07:20It's mine.
07:21I'm leaving.
07:24Tess, Scarlet.
07:25You're an angel.
07:29I'm going to miss this.
07:36Welcome to another episode of Cold Case Hot Take.
07:41I am your host, Mikey Duffy.
07:47Today we are looking at the infamous Bingo Hall murders of the mid-1980s.
07:53Now, new DNA evidence could link a previously unsolved murder to Bingo Hall Bill.
08:00Joining us in the studio is a resident detective chief inspector.
08:05A current serving police officer who must for official reasons remain anonymous.
08:12Happy to be here.
08:15And giving us her unparalleled insight into the working of the criminal mind, we have Roisin McIntyre, a chartered psychologist
08:25and a member of the British Psychological Society.
08:33So, Bingo Hall Bill, serial killer or scapegoat?
08:39Let's talk murder.
08:46So, what is the likelihood of a link to a cold case that's just come to light and the Bingo
08:52Hall murders?
08:53Detective Chief Inspector.
08:55Only DNA analysis of the disinterred remains can tell us that with any degree of certainty, but that may take
09:02some time.
09:03And is there any way of finding a link in a psychological sense?
09:08You mean through analysis of the murderer's MO?
09:12Yeah, like, points at similarities in the manner of the murders that demonstrates the mindset of whoever did it.
09:20Like James said, only DNA.
09:28You can't say James, remember?
09:30Oh, aye. Sorry. Slipped my mind.
09:33You talk psychology and leave the evidence stuff to James.
09:37Right, let's get back in our lanes, people.
09:39Right, go again.
09:40So, are there any points of similarities in the psychology of this cold case that could point to it being
09:49Bingo Hall Bill?
09:51I couldn't possibly say.
09:56Generally speaking, could you surmise, maybe?
09:59Not generally, no, because you're talking about a specific case.
10:05Like James said, a thorough police investigation.
10:12Oops, I did it again.
10:15Just like Brittany.
10:18Could you concentrate, please?
10:20We'll just get into the gory stuff.
10:22Focus, yeah?
10:26Last week, it wasn't my finest moment.
10:29It was pathetic.
10:32Yeah, maybe.
10:34But, um...
10:36I couldn't help it.
10:38I just, um...
10:41What?
10:45Are you jealous?
10:47You still have feelings for Harry?
10:49He was the love of my life for a very long time.
10:53I didn't anticipate how I would feel seeing him with someone else.
10:57And that's why you want to split us up?
11:00I'm not proud of it.
11:03Of course, there's no reason why you wouldn't tell Harry, but...
11:05Other than you looking like a jealous ex hankering after your first love?
11:09I've still got my pride.
11:12Not to mention what Tyler think.
11:14Well, maybe you should have thought about that before you'd done it.
11:16I'll pay you.
11:18What will it take?
11:20You're the last person I'd take anything from.
11:22I'd like you to leave now.
11:24That's very moral of you.
11:26Well, I'm a moral kind of person.
11:28And yet...
11:29You still take the fancy card, the holidays, the meals...
11:33It all comes at a price.
11:36And you're the one that'll pay eventually.
11:39I'm just having fun.
11:41It's nothing serious.
11:42Harry's a serious man.
11:44Well, maybe with who he was.
11:45But we just have a good time together.
11:48Anyway, if things were to get too serious, my mum's boyfriend's a detective chief inspector.
11:52So...
11:53That's a powerful ally to have.
11:55It's nice to know he's there if I should need him.
12:00Well...
12:00That sounds like you've got it all under control.
12:04Yup.
12:04I won't take up any more of your time.
12:08I'm sure you're eager to see Harry.
12:10Nah.
12:11I like to keep him waiting a few days once he's been away.
12:13Keeps him keen.
12:15Well...
12:16I'm sure he'll be very keen to see you.
12:27That's me all set.
12:31Have you told Kel you're gone?
12:32There's no point.
12:34She'll just think I'm bluffing.
12:36I'm gonna stay with a pal.
12:37Just till I work out what to do.
12:39But you can't just go.
12:40She'll come round.
12:41Don't think so.
12:43She made herself pretty clear.
12:45She's hurting.
12:46And she's never gonna forgive me.
12:48Stick her around, she's gonna make her hate me even more.
12:50But she still loves you.
12:53That's what I was counting on.
12:57Nah.
12:59Kelly Marie's done.
13:02So am I.
13:09I've not got energy for you today, Viv.
13:12This isn't about me.
13:14It's about Emma.
13:16I think you should know who you're dealing with.
13:19And what's it gonna do with you?
13:22There's things about her you should know.
13:24Oh, I think I know Emma a wee bit better than you do, Viv.
13:27In some ways, certainly.
13:30And what, you're just looking out for me, is that it?
13:34Come on, Viv, you're just trying to stir up trouble.
13:37I'm not.
13:37I promise.
13:40I know I treated you badly.
13:41Oh, you think?
13:42But I never, ever took you for a fool.
13:48Which is why...
13:50I can't sit on this.
13:53Harry's a serious man.
13:54Maybe with you he was, but we just have a good time together.
13:58Anyway, if he was to get too serious, my mum's boyfriend's a detective chief inspector, so...
14:03That's a powerful ally to have.
14:05It was nice to know he's there if I should need him.
14:12I'm sorry, Harry.
14:18Why would you record that?
14:20I knew she wasn't genuine.
14:22Or did you, aye?
14:24Call it instinct.
14:27You might not.
14:29No.
14:30You can fake these things.
14:32Copy folks' voices, AI, all that sort of stuff.
14:34This isn't fake.
14:42Why bring me that?
14:43Today, of all days.
14:45She was shooting her mouth off when you were away.
14:48Getting cock hair, indiscreet.
14:50I was concerned.
14:52It is not good for you.
14:54And by association, not good for Tyler.
14:56Oh, well, I didn't know you cared.
14:58You are still the father of my son.
15:01And I don't like to see you getting used like this.
15:07Look, if you don't believe me, ask her yourself.
15:20I am back.
15:22No.
15:23I want to see you now.
15:30What is it to me?
15:31Kel, come on.
15:34He's nothing to do with me anymore.
15:35He can do what he likes.
15:36You're just going to let him go?
15:38He had his chance.
15:39He made a mistake.
15:42I cheated with Nicole.
15:43Kim forgave me.
15:45And your point is?
15:48Nearly losing Kim
15:49made me realise just how precious what we had was.
15:55We got over it.
15:56Oh, and don't tell me.
15:58It made you stronger.
15:59Please.
16:00It made us different.
16:01Made us not take each other for granted.
16:05In a weird way.
16:07It made us happier.
16:09Well, Kim's a better person than me then.
16:11I don't do second chances.
16:13Chris still loves you.
16:15And I know you still love him.
16:20Please.
16:22Talk to him.
16:24It might be your last chance.
16:29Tell you what.
16:30Give him a message from me.
16:33Bye-bye.
16:35Good luck.
16:49What's she doing here?
16:50She just popped in for a wee chat.
16:52What's going on?
16:55Who's your pal, the Detective Chief Inspector, then?
16:58What?
17:01Your mother's father, the DCI.
17:04How would I know?
17:05You two are pretty tight, are you not?
17:08Er, no.
17:10Harry's a serious man.
17:12Maybe with you he was, but we just have a good time together.
17:15Anyway, if he was to get too serious, my mum's boyfriend's a Detective Chief Inspector, so...
17:20Oh, wow.
17:21That's a powerful ally to have.
17:23It's nice to know he's there if I should need him.
17:29Mmm.
17:31Sounds like you're pretty tight to me.
17:33Well, we're not.
17:35She's set me up.
17:37You don't need set up.
17:40You're making a mess of things all by yourself.
17:42Do you know she punched Eddie the other week to make it look like you'd hit him?
17:46Oh, don't be ridiculous.
17:47They were trying to warn me off you.
17:49Oh, Emma.
17:51You're not helping yourself.
17:54We talked.
17:56That was all.
17:57You're a liar.
17:58I thought you were solid.
18:00I am.
18:02I told you she's set me up.
18:03That's your voice though, is it, no?
18:05Why am I the one being interrogated?
18:06Why are you not asking her why she was recording me?
18:08Speaks for itself, I'd say.
18:10That's enough!
18:16I'd never let you down, you know that.
18:19Well, you're a death.
18:22Honey, please.
18:23Shut up!
18:24I can't even look at you.
18:29You're lucky I'm still breathing.
18:32But if I ever see you or Adisa, I follow yours ever again, then you're a dude.
18:40I get out of my seat.
18:52I should go.
18:53I'm so fast, you.
19:00What you said on the tape.
19:04You do still care then?
19:08Do you want a drink?
19:12For old times' sake.
19:15Well, if you put it like that.
19:25The place is nothing fancy, but you just kept me in a flare.
19:29Thanks, but I don't need charity.
19:31Who said anything but charity?
19:32You can put your keep with anybody else.
19:35You're only offering because Bob said.
19:42Don't tell Bubba this.
19:44Because I don't want him thinking I'm a sad case, but...
19:48This is for me more than you.
19:51And Chris goes.
19:52I'm going to be rattling about that place in my end.
19:54Oh, come on.
19:56Your place is always jumping.
19:57Aye, sometimes.
19:59Oh, sure the beans are coming and gone and all that, but...
20:03It's not the same since Madonna left.
20:07The place is going to be so quiet.
20:12It's funny.
20:14You spend half your life wanting a wee bit of peace and then...
20:17When you get it...
20:20It's lonely.
20:25Families.
20:27Can't live with them.
20:28Aye.
20:29And you're just a little family to us and all.
20:33Can they marry a talk of charity, all right?
20:37You'd be the one doing me the favour.
20:39Never.
20:41Then I accept.
20:44Good.
20:46Get your stuff together and I'll get your bed made up.
20:49I can make a bed.
20:50I'm house-trained, you know.
20:52Oh, that's good to know.
20:54Scarlet.
20:56What?
20:58Thanks.
21:01Aye, all right.
21:09Right.
21:12Let's go again.
21:14But can we have no more stopping and starting?
21:16My heat's got to be minced editing this, so...
21:18Can we focus, please?
21:21On a balance of probabilities,
21:23is it likely to be a serial killer or just a bog-standard killer...
21:27...killer?
21:29Most killers aren't of the serial variety.
21:32That's unusual.
21:34That's right.
21:35We like to put these labels on them.
21:38Serial killers.
21:39But we should be asking,
21:41who is this man?
21:42Or woman?
21:45Most killings are perpetrated by someone close to the victim.
21:48An ex-partner or anyone with a grievance.
21:52And new DNA evidence is narrowing down that list even further.
21:56Exactly.
21:58Advancements in DNA mean our methods are getting more and more sophisticated.
22:01Even though it was 40 years ago?
22:03And the killer was smart enough to cover their trucks?
22:06But no one's clever enough to outsmart science.
22:10We've got technology, social media, mobile phone evidence,
22:15not to mention an extensive CCTV network.
22:18But these days, it's basically impossible to get away with murder.
22:22The killer.
22:23Hmm.
22:27Ah, excuse me.
22:28I've got a call worked.
22:30No problem.
22:31We can take a break.
22:35He's great, isn't he?
22:36Hmm?
22:43Drew?
22:45Not again.
22:46Look, what I said earlier.
22:48You're right, I'm sorry.
22:51We should never have gone behind your back like that.
22:53Yeah.
22:54I'm not a kid, Mum.
22:56I know.
22:57I'm just worried about you.
22:59The way you're doing isn't easy.
23:01And if you'd let me help...
23:03I'll ask you.
23:04Really?
23:06Yeah.
23:08Now, no more slacking.
23:10Are you getting those running shoes on or what?
23:12Aye.
23:12Don't be so cheeky, you.
23:14Oh, come here.
23:19Don't...
23:19Hmm?
23:21torture yourself
23:22with what might have been.
23:25Obvious.
23:26Yep.
23:32Are you here, your man's leaving?
23:34Apparently so.
23:36It's his choice.
23:38Nothing to do with me anymore.
23:41Yeah.
23:42You still love him.
23:47Aye.
23:49Doesn't make any sense.
23:53Are you sure you can't forgive him?
23:55Saying you forgive doesn't mean anything if you can't forget.
23:59There's worse things a person can do than she.
24:02We talk to her, Bob.
24:05People make mistakes.
24:07It's what they learn from him that counts.
24:10So you're saying you'd have forgiven Caitlin?
24:14She didn't want my forgiveness.
24:18She would have said.
24:20That must have been tough.
24:24I really wanted to get married.
24:26Have a life together.
24:30But...
24:30She didn't love me anymore.
24:33Simple as that.
24:37If she'd said sorry.
24:40If she had begged you to take her back.
24:43Would you have given her another chance?
24:51In a heartbeat.
24:57Why'd you have to go?
24:58I told you.
25:00Your mum needs a bit of space.
25:01Don't go, Dad.
25:03I'm not going for mine.
25:04I'll come and see you all the time, okay?
25:10I try my best.
25:11You know that, don't you?
25:13Ivor.
25:15We already.
25:18Thought Kel might have come to say bye.
25:21Yeah.
25:22I tried to make her see sense.
25:24But...
25:24You tried.
25:26We both did.
25:28Right.
25:30See you soon.
25:36I'm so sorry, son.
25:38Thanks for everything.
25:40Right.
25:42I'm off.
25:44See you, mate.
25:45See you soon.
25:54Stop!
25:57Look, if you've come to give me a hard time again...
25:59I've come to ask if you meant it.
26:01When you said you'd never do it again.
26:03I've never meant anything more.
26:06People make mistakes.
26:07I know that.
26:08But...
26:08What if...
26:11What?
26:13I don't know.
26:14I'm just scared.
26:16I've learnt my lesson.
26:17No.
26:18It's not you.
26:18It's me.
26:19What if every time I look at you Aussies what you did?
26:23Kel.
26:23No.
26:23I don't want to end up hating you.
26:25You're so much more than what happened.
26:27I know.
26:27I can't get it out of my head.
26:29Then give me the time to make it up to you.
26:31We can be a family again.
26:33But what if I can't forget?
26:34Then don't...
26:35I'll never forget how close we came to losing each other
26:37and I will never let it happen again.
26:41But we can move on.
26:43So we can give it another shot.
26:46I'll never let that girl.
26:53Makes me wanna be a better man.
26:57Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:00Are you alright?
27:02I won't let you down.
27:04Are you better not?
27:06Because see, if you do, I will tow you back down under so fast you won't know which way's up.
27:11I'd expect nothing less.
27:19Are you ready to go again?
27:20Sorry folks, I'm gonna have to bail.
27:22Oh no, we were just getting to the good stuff.
27:24Work emergency, I'm afraid I can't get around it.
27:28Everything okay?
27:29How it's happened, Phil?
27:30You can't ask him that.
27:32It's his work.
27:32It's confidential.
27:34Oh, come on.
27:35Give us a clue.
27:36We'll not tell anyone, will we?
27:41A body's been found.
27:43That's as much as I can see at the moment.
27:46How about I go?
27:47Sorry.
27:51Ooh.
27:57Let's do some business.
27:59What kind of business?
28:00I'm about to offer you the daily a lifetime.
28:02Certainly you're trying to sell me insurance, Lenny.
28:04What I'm selling is a game changer.
28:06So nothing can stop me?
28:08Stop you doing what?
28:09Getting rid of Harry.
28:10When?
28:11Today.
28:13Roisin McIntyre.
28:14I'm arresting you on suspicion of the murder of Jonathan Whitlock.
28:17Roisin?
28:18I can explain.
28:19You don't have to say anything?
28:20It's not what you think.
28:48Don't you.
28:53I can explain.
28:53You, you're not.
28:53I can explain.
28:54I'm.
28:54I'm.
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