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00:05From 30 Rockefeller Plaza in New York, it's Late Night with Seth Meyers, the night, Brian
00:13Gosling, musician Jesse Ware, an all-new Closer Look, and now, Seth Meyers.
00:28Good evening, everybody.
00:29I'm Seth Meyers.
00:30This is Late Night.
00:31We hope you're doing well.
00:32And now, if you don't mind, we're going to get to the news.
00:34New York's St. Patrick's Day parade was held yesterday.
00:38It included more than 159,000 marchers, or as it's known in Ireland, one family.
00:46Oh, here come the O'Malays.
00:51Trump praised former British Prime Minister Winston Churchill yesterday
00:54during a press appearance with Irish Prime Minister Michael Martin.
00:58You praised Winston Churchill in front of the Irish?
01:02Anything else you want to praise?
01:04Maybe non-alcoholic beer?
01:09O'Doul, we love O'Doul.
01:12I've been hearing a lot of good about O'Douls.
01:16In a post yesterday on Truth Social, President Trump criticized U.S. allies
01:20for not providing military support in Iran and added,
01:23"...we no longer need or desire the NATO country's assistance.
01:27We never did."
01:28Really?
01:29Because you were begging for their help a couple of days ago.
01:31Now, all of a sudden, NATO is like Dumbo's Feather.
01:34It turns out we could fly all along.
01:39At the Friends of Ireland luncheon yesterday, President Trump said
01:42that he knows so many Irish people, but added,
01:45"...they're very difficult, which I think means we've been downgraded
01:48to acquaintance of Ireland."
01:52Same luncheon, President Trump gave an update on the war in Iran
01:55and said,
01:56"...they were, in my opinion, two weeks away from having a nuclear weapon."
02:00Well, that's not how opinions work.
02:01This is a matter of fact.
02:04Either they were two weeks away or they weren't.
02:06That's why no one ever asks,
02:08"...in your opinion, what is the capital of Vermont?"
02:12President Trump also called the war on Iran,
02:15"...a little excursion."
02:16Okay, just because you give it a cute name
02:18doesn't make it less bad.
02:20That's like saying O.J. had a case of the Mondays.
02:29FBI Director Cash Patel was recently photographed
02:31wearing custom Nike sneakers with his personal logo,
02:34the FBI motto, and a Punisher skull.
02:37"...dude, you're the head of the FBI.
02:39Why are you dressing like every guy having brunch in Tribeca?
02:43Tell you what, you're cruising for a pair of size 14 Florsheims."
02:49After President Biden spoke yesterday at a St. Patrick's Day event
02:52in Boston, Massachusetts, Governor Maura Healey praised Biden
02:55and said,
02:56"...no president has celebrated his Irish roots as you have."
03:00Like that time he left the debate without saying goodbye to anyone.
03:05"...smooth."
03:07"...smooth."
03:12"...smooth."
03:13"...smooth."
03:15"...smooth."
03:17"...smooth."
03:19Apple CEO Tim Cook dismissed rumors this week he's planning on retiring
03:23and said that he, quote,
03:25can't imagine life without Apple because whenever he does,
03:28he gets quite the jolt from his Apple shock collar.
03:33In a post on Monday on Truth Social,
03:35President Trump promoted Fox News host Sean Hannity's podcast,
03:39Hang Out with Sean Hannity, which is also the number one
03:42least requested thing at Make-A-Wish.
03:50Finally, a Chinese man was arrested recently at an airport in Kenya
03:53after officials discovered more than 2,000 live ants in his luggage.
03:57Authorities became suspicious when his carry-on carried itself on.
04:03That was a monologue, everybody!
04:05Got a good one for you tonight.
04:07He's a great actor, you know, from La La Land, Barbie Drive.
04:11He produces and stars in the incredible new film
04:14A Project Hail Mary in theaters and IMAX this Friday,
04:17March 20th.
04:18You guys, Ryan Gosling is here tonight.
04:20First time. First time.
04:24She is a fantastic singer-songwriter.
04:26Her sixth album, Super Bloom, is out April 17th.
04:30Jessie Ware is back on the show.
04:33Before we get to all that,
04:36two of Donald Trump's appointees testified before Congress today.
04:39One of them defended the Iran War
04:40after previously opposing it and the other defended dueling.
04:44Also, Trump wants to do regime change in Cuba.
04:47For more on this, it's time for A Closer Look.
04:53As we all know, Trump promised to end foreign wars,
04:56but more than that, he promised that the U.S.
04:58would stop getting involved in other countries' business.
05:01American forces cannot be the policeman for the entire world.
05:06We're all over the world.
05:07And a lot of times, we're not even appreciated.
05:11The United States cannot afford
05:13to be the policeman of the world anymore, folks.
05:15We have to rebuild our own country.
05:17We are losing billions and billions of dollars.
05:21We cannot be the policeman of the world.
05:24Our country has never been in more danger of World War III
05:27than it is right now.
05:31And we don't want to be the world's policeman.
05:34You know, based on how it's gone in recent years,
05:36I think the world is probably okay with that, you know?
05:39People like the police the most when they arrive
05:41after you call them for help.
05:42In recent years, we've been showing up uninvited,
05:45underprepared, like that Border Patrol agent in Minnesota
05:47who slipped and fell on his ass.
05:49That's us when we meddle in another country's affairs.
05:51We come in hot, fall on our asses,
05:53and run away with our tails tucked between our legs
05:56while everyone laughs at us.
05:57But while we're running away, we act all tough,
05:59like we meant to do that.
06:01Like our captain said,
06:02Johnson, you go in first. Confirm that ice is slippery.
06:06So you heard Trump.
06:07We don't want to be the world's police.
06:09But when Trump decided he actually really likes
06:11blowing things up, MAGA turned on a dime.
06:14I'm not against America being the policeman of the world,
06:16but certainly the policeman of the hemisphere, I'm for it.
06:19We live in a world, in the real world, Jake,
06:23that is governed by strength, that is governed by force,
06:29that is governed by power.
06:30Every once in a while, we got to send a bunch of commandos
06:33to kick in your door and drag you into a helicopter
06:36in the middle of the night in handcuffs.
06:37We are the dominant predator, quite frankly,
06:41force in the Western Hemisphere.
06:43What rules the world and has ruled humanity
06:46is the law of the jungle.
06:48We rule the jungle. We are the lion.
06:51Got it. They don't want to be the police.
06:52They want to be lions, so they're not 13 years old.
06:55They're seven.
06:57Also, you know what tough guys never do?
06:58They never talk tough, because when you do,
07:00you sound like you're playing Call of Duty
07:02in your parents' basement.
07:03I am the lion. I rule the jungle.
07:05Uh, actually, lions don't live in jungles.
07:08They live in savannas.
07:09Shut up, Theodore!
07:12Mom, can you bring us down some pizza rolls?
07:16That's the new MAGA philosophy,
07:18and not just abroad, but here at home.
07:19Today, during a hearing to become
07:21the next Homeland Security Secretary,
07:24Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
07:25actually defended dueling.
07:27This was immediately an intense hearing
07:29at kickoff between the Republican chairman,
07:31Rand Paul, and Senator Mark Wayne Mullen,
07:34dating back to some history the two of them have,
07:37specifically as it relates to an attack
07:40by Rand Paul's neighbor in 2017.
07:43In 2017, Rand Paul was attacked
07:45by one of his constituents, seriously injured,
07:48and Mullen at the time made a comment
07:50about the fact that he understood
07:53why that person might have acted out
07:56violently against Rand Paul.
07:59What I was simply pointing out is some of the rules
08:01that still apply to this body.
08:03For instance, dueling with two consenting adults
08:07is still there.
08:08I was pointing out what is still acceptable.
08:10It's been illegal for 170 years.
08:13There's no precedent for legal dueling.
08:16I don't know which part of that is weirder,
08:18that Mark Wayne thought dueling was still legal,
08:21or that Rand immediately knew.
08:24It hasn't been legal for 170 years.
08:27Okay, nerd.
08:29If you challenged Rand to a duel
08:31and said, name the time and the place,
08:32he'd say, uh, I'm not sure about the place,
08:34but let's make the time the year 1856
08:37so we don't get arrested.
08:39Shut up, Theodore!
08:42Mom!
08:44Get a move on the pizza rolls!
08:47Also very funny to describe a duel
08:49as being between two consenting adults.
08:54You know, because if only one person consents,
08:56that's murder.
08:59It's not okay if one guy is just pacing.
09:02Why'd you shoot me?
09:03You were counting your steps.
09:04My Fitbit's broken!
09:06Doing it manually.
09:09But that's the philosophy of MAGA.
09:11Violence and brute force rule the world
09:13they can do whatever they want,
09:14which is why even the voices within the administration,
09:16who were the loudest against war with Iran
09:18are now changing their tune, like Tulsi Gabbard,
09:20who, when she was running for president as a Democrat in 2019,
09:23yeah, I also think that's weird now,
09:27said this about Donald Trump.
09:29This president and his chicken hawk cabinet
09:32have led us to the brink of war with Iran.
09:35This war with Iran would be far more devastating,
09:38far more costly than anything that we ever saw in Iraq.
09:41This is why it's so important that every one of us,
09:45every single American, stand up and say,
09:47no war with Iran.
09:49No, a chicken hawk is someone who goes to war
09:51but never served one.
09:52And I just want to say,
09:53how dare she call Stephen Miller a chicken hawk,
09:55when he's clearly way more of a mad scientist
09:57who would try to combine a chicken and a hawk.
10:01I've taken blood samples from both of the animals,
10:04cross-referenced their DNA, and spliced their genes
10:06to produce the first-ever chicken hawk.
10:09Behold!
10:12Gabbard was fully against the war with Iran
10:14until she started working for Trump.
10:16During a hearing today, she even skipped over parts
10:18of her written statement that would have undercut
10:20the case for Trump's war.
10:21In your printed testimony today on page six,
10:25in your last paragraph on page six,
10:27as a result of Operation Midnight Hammer,
10:29Iran's nuclear enrichment program was obliterated,
10:31there's been no efforts to try to rebuild
10:33their enrichment capability.
10:35You omitted that paragraph from your oral opening.
10:41Was that because the president said
10:44there was an imminent threat two weeks ago?
10:46No, sir, I recognize that the time was running long,
10:49and I skipped through some of the portions of my oral...
10:52So you chose to take...
10:54...of my oral-delivered remarks.
10:55You chose to omit the parts that contradict the president.
10:59First of all, it's on C-SPAN. Feel free to go long.
11:02I mean, the next show...
11:03The next show on the schedule is two dudes in a hallway
11:06argue about ethanol subsidies.
11:08And even if you were trying to keep it short,
11:10you just coincidentally left out the part
11:12that would have contradicted the president?
11:14Is that why you also chose not to read that part
11:16of your statement that says windmills don't cause cancer,
11:19and also they're called wind turbines dumbass?
11:22So this is the new MAGA.
11:24They lied about ending foreign wars.
11:25All they care about is power.
11:27They can invade any country they want.
11:28First, it was Venezuela. Then it was Iran.
11:31Next, it's Cuba.
11:32President Trump has again set his sights on Cuba.
11:35New York Times is reporting that President Trump
11:37wants Cuba's president to step down.
11:40On Monday, Trump suggested that he was open
11:42to taking the country over.
11:43We'll see what happens. They were asking me about that.
11:46I think Cuba, I don't know, is in its own way
11:48for, you know, tourism and everything else.
11:50It's a beautiful island. Great weather.
11:52They're not in a hurricane zone, which is nice for a change,
11:55you know? They won't be asking us for money
11:57for hurricanes every week.
11:58Okay, first of all, Cuba is absolutely in a hurricane zone.
12:03They've had 11 major hurricanes since 2000,
12:06including one in October.
12:08Don't do weather reports, okay?
12:09You're bad at it.
12:11Even the hand movement.
12:12Can you imagine this guy doing a local forecast?
12:15As you can see, the rain is going to go this way,
12:17then it's going to go back this way,
12:19and then it's going to go back this way again.
12:22But Trump continued musing about his ambition
12:25to invade and conquer Cuba.
12:26All my life I've been hearing about the United States
12:28and Cuba.
12:30When will the United States do it?
12:32I do believe I'll be the honor of having the honor
12:35of taking Cuba.
12:40To prom?
12:43To the debutante ball? Why do you talk so weird?
12:46I do believe I will have the honor
12:48of taking Cuba to Cotillion.
12:51And if any man gets in my way,
12:53I will challenge him to a duel, which is still legal.
12:56Also, why is he playing?
12:57Why do you keep his little hands like this?
13:00I'm a tough guy.
13:03You don't want to mess with me.
13:06I got my two little hands ready to go.
13:12In fact, MAGA is already so gung-ho about invading Cuba.
13:15You guys, they've already got merch.
13:16I'm in Miami. You see this hat? Free Cuba.
13:19Stay tuned. The liberation of Cuba is upon us.
13:23It's just a matter of time now. You see this hat?
13:26Make a run great.
13:27So you have personalized merch for every country you're invading?
13:32Lindsay, are you starting a war or organizing a bachelorette party?
13:35See this hat?
13:37It says, make Audrey great again.
13:39She's getting married.
13:40We're going to Miami for the weekend to celebrate.
13:42Even if Meemaw says I'm not allowed to drink because I get fresh.
13:46Nobody's getting fresh with you, you old dustbag.
13:52Smell like chewing tobacco and Vipo rum.
13:56What?
14:00Yeah, I would like some pizza rolls.
14:04I would.
14:09Trump, of course, loves the branding.
14:12He also loves when things go boom.
14:14On Wednesday, for example, he held up a model of a B-2 bomber,
14:18which means he had to take his little hand.
14:21If you're wondering how he had them ready to go,
14:23and they picked it right up.
14:26He picked up a model of a B-2 bomber
14:28and bragged about how cool it was.
14:29But, of course, since he's Trump,
14:30he did it in the weirdest possible way.
14:32These gorgeous B-2 bombers.
14:34Give me that bomber, Andrew.
14:36Let me just hug that little sucker.
14:38Give me that bomber over there.
14:40You knew immediately which one.
14:41This looks small, but in person, it's very big.
14:51I'm guessing that's not the first time he's said that, huh?
14:54I'm sure more than one person has gotten a text from Trump
14:57that says, this looks small, but in person, it's very big.
15:01Also, you don't have to tell us the model is big in person.
15:04None of us thought that was actual size.
15:07None of us were watching me like, oh, they made the plane too small.
15:11They made, oh, it's just a model. It's just a model.
15:15We've all had to suffer through years of dumb punditry
15:17about how MAGA was actually anti-war.
15:19It was all BS. We knew it was BS.
15:21We're still in a war with Iran.
15:22Trump's already excited about a new war with Cuba.
15:25He's showing us how excited he is.
15:26Now, you may not think from looking at him that he's excited,
15:30but trust me, his excitement...
15:32Looks small, but in person, it's very big.
15:34...has meant a closer look.
15:40We'll be right back with Ryan Gosling, everybody.
15:48For more of Seth's closer looks, be sure to subscribe to Late Night on YouTube.
16:01Our first guest tonight is an Emmy, an Academy Award-nominated actor.
16:04You know from La La Land, Barbie, Half Nelson, and Drive.
16:07He's both a producer and star of the highly anticipated film,
16:11Project Hail Mary, which is only in theaters and IMAX this Friday,
16:15March 20th.
16:16Please welcome to the show, everybody, Ryan Gosling!
16:36How are you?
16:37You got Wall-E here?
16:39We got Wall-E! I was bummed that you noticed him.
16:41Does everybody know?
16:42Yeah. Cue card Wall-E.
16:44I mean, that's cue card Wall-E. Yeah, there he is.
16:48And as a...
16:49I mean, we've got a couple of guys.
16:52In SNL...
16:53I feel better now.
16:53...multi-level host, right?
16:55Multi-time host.
16:56And Wall-E is, like, everybody's...
16:58I mean, you need to be able to see Wall-E
17:00before you can relax at SNL.
17:02He's every... I mean, he is your...
17:03He's the... He and Donna.
17:05Yeah, we got Donna for you right over there.
17:07Give it up for Donna.
17:08Give it up for Donna.
17:10Yeah. Come on.
17:12Yeah.
17:14I think that they're the...
17:15You got the A-Team.
17:16We really do have the A-Team over here.
17:17They are the wind beneath your wings.
17:19Yeah.
17:19Donna, I feel bad for Donna because we wanted to make sure Donna
17:22had the easiest job in the world.
17:24She has the hardest job at SNL, which is she dresses the host
17:27in between each sketch.
17:28Yes.
17:28She has, like, two seconds to change you.
17:30If you're wondering how you go from, like, Beavis and Butthead
17:34to a Cyclops in two minutes, it's Donna who makes that happen.
17:38Yeah, so they...
17:38Sometimes she has to prod you, slap you.
17:41I've gotten a few...
17:42Rips your clothes off.
17:43Yeah.
17:43Turn around.
17:44Slaps you in the...
17:45Yeah.
17:45On Monday, they make you sign a thing being like,
17:48I will not report Donna to HR.
17:51But you have pink Donna here, which is amazing,
17:54because she's always in black at SNL.
17:55That's right.
17:56She can't draw attention.
17:57This is...
17:57We allow her light to shine here.
17:59You look beautiful.
17:59Look at Donna.
18:00Yeah.
18:01Donna looks great.
18:04And...
18:07And Donna's sister, can I mention her bakery?
18:10Sure.
18:11Yeah?
18:11She owns a bakery in Florida and Tallahassee?
18:13Yeah.
18:14And they make the most incredible Pop-Tarts.
18:17You have to order these Pop-Tarts.
18:20And Donna gives them to you at the beginning of the show,
18:22like, when you start hosting.
18:24So you're just running on Pop-Tarts the whole...
18:26Only you!
18:27This is fascinating.
18:28I mean, it's fascinating.
18:30We're just in year 12 of the show, Ryan,
18:32and not a single...
18:34You've never had the Pop-Tarts?
18:34...not a single tart has popped for old Seth.
18:39Oh, my God.
18:40I didn't even know she had a family.
18:41I'm sorry.
18:42I didn't...
18:43I didn't mean to start this.
18:45Just me.
18:46Yeah.
18:47I bet Momoa gets Pop-Tarts.
18:49Yeah.
18:50Momoa...
18:51Doesn't?
18:52There we go.
18:53There we go.
18:57I know that's her favorite host.
18:58Yeah, I know.
19:00I'm chipping away at that slowly, though.
19:01At the SNL 50th,
19:03when she had a chance to say her favorite hope,
19:04were you hopeful that you would maybe get a shout-out?
19:07You know what?
19:07I'm gonna earn it.
19:08It's fine.
19:09I'll get there.
19:10You've done a lot to earn it.
19:12I mean, one of the great SNL sketches
19:14of the last 10 years with Kate McKinnon.
19:16Here's Cecily Strong.
19:17Oh, my God.
19:19I think that was true.
19:21We were talking backstage.
19:22You know, the thing about SNL, you make it look easy,
19:25and it's not.
19:25And that show is so hard from Monday to Saturday.
19:28Well, because you don't sleep for a week.
19:29Yep.
19:30And then you're just delirious.
19:31Yeah.
19:31And then Wally tells you what to say,
19:33and Donna gets you dressed and tells you where to stand.
19:37Did you, though, before this one started,
19:39did you know on Wednesday, like, oh, this is gonna be a winner?
19:43Or was this surprising?
19:45Well, I got to see Kate do a little bit of it at the table.
19:49Yeah.
19:49So that gives you a good sense.
19:50I knew what was coming at me.
19:51Right.
19:52So I just was sort of bracing myself.
19:54Yeah.
19:55But you can't.
19:56No.
19:57Well, I guess that's interesting.
19:58It almost makes it worse.
19:59It's like you should just...
20:00I don't know if it's like they say you should...
20:02I don't know.
20:03You get hit or something, you should just, like,
20:05let the impact.
20:06Right.
20:07That's not what they say.
20:08What do they say?
20:09No, that's...
20:10Tensing makes it worse.
20:11Oh, tensing makes it worse.
20:12That would make sense for, yeah.
20:13Like, if somebody's punching you,
20:14you're supposed to go limp like a bag of sand.
20:16Exactly.
20:17And then they don't hit you again.
20:19And that's the saying, right?
20:19Should we teach a boxing clinic yet?
20:21Yeah.
20:21I think...
20:23The other thing about Kate is every time you think
20:25she's at, like, the full 10 out of 10,
20:28you realize, like, no, she was at 6.
20:30No, she hasn't.
20:31Yeah.
20:32Like, there's seven more moves.
20:33She waits until the live show to sit on your head or something.
20:35You didn't know that was coming.
20:38And then you get in trouble for laughing.
20:40Yeah.
20:41I mean, it's pretty great.
20:42I don't know if it's trouble.
20:43I mean, I think it's...
20:44Well, people do get a little bit like, come on.
20:46Yeah.
20:46Well, that was serious, man.
20:47That was what was so magical about this last episode,
20:50is that they kind of leaned into it with you and Ashley.
20:53Oh, where they wrote us those notes?
20:54Yeah, they changed lines between dress and air.
20:56Ooh.
20:57Yeah.
20:58I was very novel.
20:59That was low.
21:00I will say, I got to say, watching at home,
21:01I was deeply jealous.
21:02I was like, that is a really great idea.
21:05And that's the highest praise I can pay the show after I leave it
21:07is anytime it makes me feel jealous.
21:09That was Mikey and Streeter.
21:10Yeah.
21:11I mean, those guys are very, very good at what they do.
21:13Yeah.
21:14It's also, obviously, you have a new movie that's Outer Space.
21:18I mean, Close Encounters is a little alien stuff.
21:20This has been a trend of yours through your career.
21:23We found, I believe it's your first acting job, is a Canadian...
21:27They told me about this backstage.
21:29I'm not going to pretend I haven't heard this, but...
21:31You haven't seen it?
21:33No, I did. She showed me on her phone.
21:35Okay, gotcha.
21:36But I haven't seen it.
21:37That's the first time I've ever seen it.
21:38Oh, you didn't see it when it aired?
21:39No. It was my...
21:42It was, like, one of my first jobs.
21:43Yeah, but why...
21:44I mean, my first job...
21:45I'm not sure it really aired.
21:46Okay.
21:47It's called...
21:48I do have to...
21:48I'm going to read it because I didn't remember this show.
21:51No offense.
21:52Psy Factor, Chronicles of the Paranormal.
21:55With Dan Aykroyd.
21:56With Dan Aykroyd.
21:57So it's a very Canadian show.
21:59It was, like, true stories told by Dan Aykroyd
22:01in a kind of unsolved mysteries sort of way about paranormal.
22:05And you played a teenager who was basically accosted by...
22:09Well, like, what?
22:10Abducted?
22:11Abducted by aliens.
22:12Gotcha.
22:12So this is really...
22:13This is your genre.
22:16I think so.
22:17Yeah.
22:17And, by the way, you're very good at it.
22:19Even from the very beginning, you're very good at it, Ryan.
22:21Should we watch the clip?
22:22Yeah.
22:24Yeah.
22:44Oh, my God.
22:47Oh, my God.
22:47You were built for it.
22:49Should we do it?
22:50Should we get...
22:54And then we'll put...
22:55Obviously, we'll put the effects in after.
22:57Put the effects in.
22:57Can we put the effects in?
22:58I'm being told we don't have the budget for the effects.
23:00What?
23:01You don't need them.
23:02You don't need them.
23:03Yeah, we don't need them.
23:03I think we showed the lighting.
23:05Yeah, you felt it.
23:05Was that a situation where they were screaming,
23:07Shake Now?
23:09I don't remember.
23:10Yeah.
23:11I mean, you were so in character.
23:13Yeah.
23:14I didn't even remember doing it until 20 minutes ago.
23:18All right.
23:19We got more with Ryan right after this.
23:34Hi, Grace.
23:36You're in a ball.
23:38So, Rocky No Dying Grace atmosphere.
23:40I come up.
23:40Oh, you're coming up.
23:41Foreign buddy.
23:42Detective.
23:43Grace and Rocky, Big Science.
23:45How to kill asteroid waves together.
23:46I keep going this way?
23:48This room, boring.
23:49Rocky!
23:50Science, save Earth, save Air is good plan.
23:52What's this on here, question?
23:55Amazing, amazing.
23:56Rocky wants to do human technology.
23:59What?
23:59Dirty, dirty, dirty, dirty, dirty.
24:02Why were you so messy, question?
24:02Well, I wasn't expecting company, was I?
24:06Welcome back, everybody!
24:07We're here, Ryan Gosling.
24:09I love the clip from Project Hail Mary.
24:11You've been involved with this for a long time.
24:15Yeah.
24:16That's my friend, Rocky.
24:17That's your friend, Rocky.
24:18Yeah.
24:19And Rocky is a practical, is an actual puppet.
24:22Aren't we all?
24:23Yeah.
24:23I mean, showbiz, right?
24:25We're all just the CEOs.
24:27They're the ones pulling the strings, baby.
24:32But that's it. They built an actual spaceship.
24:34Like, actually, weirdly, less effects in this
24:36than in Psy paranormal activity.
24:38It was too real. It didn't need to be this real.
24:40No one told our production designer
24:42that this spaceship didn't need to actually go to space.
24:45And we could have had a CGI, Rocky.
24:48But we didn't. I mean, there is CGI involved.
24:51Right.
24:52He's CGI curious.
24:54Okay, got it.
24:54He is a practical, practical puppet.
24:58He's there.
25:00And sometimes I felt like I was hanging out with my alien buddy.
25:03It was pretty amazing.
25:05And, you know, they capture it in the film,
25:07which is part of, I think, the magic of the movie,
25:09is that you really feel like there's a real bond there.
25:12And I promise you, you won't believe this,
25:14but you will cry for him at the end of this movie.
25:16Yeah.
25:17You can't believe you're going to love
25:18a faceless rock alien this much.
25:20I mean, people...
25:22But you will.
25:22The people who were here who have seen it,
25:24every one of them has said they've cried.
25:26So I believe you.
25:27Yeah, there were some SNL folks that were, like, mad,
25:30because they were like, I thought this was a comedy.
25:33And they didn't want to cry in front of each other,
25:35because it's not the vibe over there.
25:37Weirdly, every...
25:37I cried in front of almost everybody I worked with at that show.
25:40Oh, really? Okay.
25:41You're right.
25:41Did you...
25:42Lord and Miller, incredible directing duo.
25:45And they're really good at both heart and being really funny.
25:47They're one of a kind.
25:48They really are, even though there's two of them.
25:49And there's two of them.
25:50Yeah.
25:52But they...
25:52Obviously, they do the voice of Rocky after,
25:54but they would...
25:55Is it true they'd surprise you on set
25:57and have people come in and do the voice?
25:59Yeah, well, there was a day when my girls were visiting me,
26:02and they put them on the mic.
26:04So I got to do some scenes with them as Rocky,
26:08which was pretty...
26:09And that reaction is in the film, so you can see.
26:12When I look extra, just, like, start...
26:14Heart eyes emoji guy, that's...
26:17That's them.
26:18So Andy Weir wrote this book.
26:20And is it before he even...
26:21Before the book was available to purchase,
26:24he reached out to you and basically said, like,
26:26hey, do you want to help me bring this to the screen one day?
26:29Yeah, it was a manuscript that hadn't been published.
26:32There was no context.
26:33I didn't know what I was about to read.
26:35So I went on the journey...
26:37That's really fantastic.
26:38...of a lifetime.
26:38But it came during lockdown
26:41when all the theaters were shutting down
26:45and film productions were shutting down,
26:47and here was this opportunity to make
26:49and produce the most ambitious film
26:54I will ever make, probably.
26:55And I thought, oh, this would be a Hail Mary
26:58if we could actually get this done, you know?
27:01And here we are, almost six years later,
27:03and we did it.
27:03That's fantastic.
27:06You, uh...
27:09Obviously, you know, as no stranger to space films,
27:12there's zero-gravity stuff,
27:13but a lot of that was also done wires.
27:16Yeah.
27:17Yeah, actually.
27:18You were up on wires.
27:19Go to space on this one.
27:20No.
27:21Do you enjoy wire acting?
27:23There's a special place in Hell for wire acting.
27:27I wouldn't wish it on anybody.
27:29It's the opposite of what it looks like.
27:31Yeah.
27:32Oh, right, because it looks like free-flowing
27:33and like, oh, my God, look at this magic,
27:35but you're probably just getting pulled in all different places.
27:39Yeah.
27:42Yeah.
27:43Yeah.
27:45Uh...
27:45It's hard to talk about, actually.
27:48But it's great in this film because I'm not good at space
27:53in the film.
27:54Yes, you play someone who is reluctant to go.
27:56Yeah, so I'm going...
27:57You know, it's quite...
27:59We kind of...
28:00We were hoping to sort of channel a bit of, like,
28:04chaplains modern times or something into this,
28:07where it's just total...
28:08It's organized chaos, but it's chaos,
28:10and it's not that sort of, like, space ballet stuff
28:12you're used to.
28:13Right.
28:14And we had real astronauts visit us one day,
28:16and I was nervous because I'm just, like, you know,
28:20going tail over tea kettle.
28:21Yeah, yeah.
28:22And bumping into everything, and it's totally inelegant,
28:25and I went back to the monitor, and I said,
28:28So, how's that, you know?
28:31What do you think of that?
28:32And they were like,
28:32That's what it's like!
28:33Really?
28:34Yeah.
28:35Oh, wow, so the only...
28:36We got it right.
28:37Yeah.
28:39Cinema...
28:39Yeah.
28:42Um...
28:42You also, uh...
28:44You got...
28:46I just woke up from a long sleep.
28:48Right.
28:48Uh, beard and hair.
28:50Oh, my God.
28:51Who's that?
28:52That's, uh...
28:52I call him the space caveman.
28:54Yeah.
28:55But this is an important look to nail.
28:56Were you very happy?
28:57Who are you aiming for with your beard hair?
29:00I was just going space caveman.
29:02Yeah.
29:02But I had a thought.
29:03You know, I don't, like, do this a lot,
29:05and I have a little bit of trauma because I went for it a bit
29:08on this film, The Big Short.
29:10Oh, yeah.
29:11And, you know, when I stepped out in my wig and in costume,
29:15and I ran into Steve Carell, who's the first person I saw,
29:18and he just stared at me and he said,
29:20never do this again.
29:23I was like, damn it.
29:26You know, it's the last thing you want.
29:27Yeah.
29:28That's not what you want from your scene partner
29:30right before you go out.
29:31Never do this again.
29:32But at least you learned a lesson.
29:34And I did it until now.
29:35Yeah.
29:35You stopped working with Steve Carell, though, right?
29:37You guys never did another movie again.
29:38I never spoke to him again.
29:40Hey, this is a very hard ticket to get to opening weekend
29:44of this show.
29:44Oh.
29:45But you're doing a very cool thing,
29:47which is everybody who's here right now,
29:50should they choose to...
29:51If you're not busy.
29:52If you're not busy, after the show tonight,
29:54there are going to be buses outside,
29:56and if you want to go to the premiere of this film,
29:58the premiere!
30:00The premiere!
30:04We've never had anything quite like this for the show.
30:08Very cool.
30:09Thank you for sharing that with our audience.
30:10You guys, that's Ryan Gosling.
30:12Project Hail Mary of the In theaters and IMAX
30:14this Friday, March 20th.
30:15Stick around.
30:16We'll be right back with Jesse Ware.
30:37Our next guest, a fantastic singer and songwriter.
30:40Her sixth album, Super Bloom, is out April 17th.
30:44Please welcome back to the show
30:45our friend Jesse Ware, everybody!
31:07Oh, my goodness!
31:11Hello, Jesse!
31:12Hi!
31:12I knocked your earring off.
31:13But that was going to happen,
31:14or I wasn't going to be able to fit on this seat.
31:16Yeah.
31:17Well, it looks great.
31:18It's a wonderful outfit.
31:18And, by the way, you kept your cool when I knocked it off
31:20because you screamed,
31:21Oh !
31:23No, I have to say, I'm slightly flustered.
31:26I just walked past Ryan Gosling and...
31:30He does have an effect on you.
31:33Like, I have a dry...
31:34And I try to play it very cool,
31:36and he's probably still in his dressing room,
31:37but I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, cool.
31:39Hey, you're all right.
31:39You're all right.
31:40Whoo!
31:41He's probably in there, probably eating there,
31:43just chowing down some Pop-Tarts.
31:47Oh, okay, right.
31:48Let's do this.
31:49Well, I'm glad you can keep yourself composed for me, Jesse.
31:51No, I feel the same about you.
31:53I do, I do.
31:54No, everybody knows that you do.
31:56I love hanging out with you,
31:58and I got to hang out with you and your incredible mom.
32:01I did your podcast, Table Manners,
32:02and it's such a wonderful podcast.
32:04And you hosted with your mother, who is, I mean,
32:07one of a kind.
32:09She's quite fab.
32:09Yeah, she's quite fab.
32:10Lenny is quite fab.
32:12I host a podcast with my brother.
32:13I enjoy it a great deal.
32:14I feel closer with him than I have in the past.
32:16How do you feel about your time with your mom?
32:19I feel like it's really good for us,
32:21for me to be in New York for a few days.
32:23Yeah.
32:23Like, we just, like, we did, like, three last week.
32:27We did Shaka Khan last week.
32:30Oh, my God.
32:31And Lenny and Shaka together,
32:33it was like diva meets diva, and it was wild.
32:36Yeah.
32:37Does Shaka, by the end, does she appreciate that Lenny,
32:39because I think at first glance, you might not know
32:41Lenny is a diva.
32:42Oh, no.
32:43It requires the course of a podcast to realize that.
32:45Yes, absolutely.
32:46No, no, I mean, Shaka was, like, giving her her perfume.
32:49She was...
32:49It was...
32:49My mom is fantastic.
32:51My mom actually is a social worker and still works.
32:54Yeah, she's amazing.
32:57And she's a single mom.
32:59She was a single mom, brought up three kids,
33:00and then I decided to, like, start a podcast,
33:03and she was just meant to cook and be kind of lovely,
33:07but she's the star.
33:08Yeah, she has taken over.
33:10And now I think kind of, like, I'm her...
33:13Is there such a thing as, like, a daughter-ger?
33:16I'm, like, I've created a beast, but she's a fantastic beast.
33:20Yeah.
33:21Who gets really good secrets out of people, and I love her.
33:23That's wonderful, and I know she's very supportive.
33:25She loves to see you perform, correct?
33:26She does.
33:27You performed at the BAFTAs this year, which was incredible.
33:30Beautiful song, beautiful honor to be there.
33:32Yeah.
33:33Did Lenny come to the BAFTAs?
33:34She tried.
33:35Okay, so what is that?
33:36So what does that mean?
33:37I mean, I was like, Mom, like, it's kind of like
33:39Prince William and Leonardo DiCaprio.
33:42You're not invited. I love you.
33:44You're going to have to watch this one on telly.
33:45Gotcha. And did she take no for an answer,
33:47or did she push pretty hard?
33:49She pushed quite hard, and she does that thing
33:51that Jewish mothers do where she was like,
33:53Oh, darling, come on. I just want to support you, darling.
33:56Like, come on.
33:56She's just watched it a lot of times and shared it with people.
33:59She put the most horrendous picture of me and my sister up.
34:02It was Mother's Day on Sunday, and she put the most shocking
34:07picture of me and my sister up on Instagram,
34:09and I was like, What are you doing?
34:11But she's so proud. It's out of focus.
34:14Like...
34:15And, yeah, she's just a proud mom.
34:17That's great. I like that.
34:19But, yeah, proud parents don't care if their kids are in focus.
34:21They're like, Yeah, they're beautiful no matter how bad
34:24my camera work is.
34:25Can you take a good photo of your wife?
34:29I think not.
34:30Okay, yeah. It's a thing, right?
34:31Based on the feedback I've received.
34:35Congratulations, Superbloom. This is your sixth album.
34:38Yeah. That's amazing.
34:39Congratulations. Thank you.
34:42You have a song called Ride.
34:47I do.
34:47It's a fantastic song.
34:49Very steamy video. Like, very, like, Western-themed.
34:53I know.
34:54Did you...
34:55Whose idea was it? Was it your idea to...
34:57So, it was my idea to basically...
34:59I've got this song called Ride, and I wanted a sexy cowboy in it.
35:04And I asked my friend James Norton, who's an amazing actor,
35:07who's actually playing Brian Epstein in the Beatles film.
35:10Oh, fantastic.
35:11And I said, Listen, I saw him at a party, and I said,
35:13Babe, can you ride a horse? He said, Yes.
35:15I said, Do you want to be a sexy cowboy? He was like, Yes.
35:18And I didn't think I was going to be in it that much.
35:20Got it.
35:21And then we're, like, workshopping.
35:24I'm not an actress, by the way, either.
35:26So, the day before the shoot, he's coming around so we can, like,
35:30work out what we're going to do in this video that's going to be
35:32a little raunchy.
35:34And we go down to my gym at the bottom of my garden.
35:37The kids are on school holidays.
35:39And, like, we're going through the motions, and, like, improv is,
35:42like, the same word to me as jamming, which gives me the fear.
35:45Like, I'm like, Oh, my God, I'm about to improv.
35:47I'm about to improvise with James Norton, and he's on all fours,
35:51like, crawling to me.
35:53And he's like, Jesse, tell me what you want to do to me.
35:57And I'm like, Oh, God, yeah, we're in a kind of subdom situation here.
36:03And I don't know what to do.
36:05So I've got my legs open, and I'm, like, about to, you know,
36:10do something. He's on all fours like this.
36:12And I look to my left, and my son, my four-year-old son,
36:17is in a Deadpool costume like this looking in the window like that.
36:22And I'm like, Wow, this is the juggle.
36:25Yeah, yeah.
36:26Are your kids...
36:27Your kids are the same age as my kids.
36:29Are they impressed with your work?
36:32Do they like your music?
36:33They're not fast. I mean, they're the greatest A&R's kids,
36:36aren't they?
36:38You know it's kind of maybe a hit if they're, like,
36:40wanting to listen to it again.
36:41But no, my kids like K-pop Demon Hunters,
36:45Imagine Dragons and Taylor Swift.
36:46Yeah, that's the same. That's the same.
36:49I mean, they have good taste.
36:50It's just not taste for their parents. Yeah.
36:51No, exactly. Yeah.
36:52They don't like their parents. They like good things.
36:54They just don't like us.
36:55No, exactly. Completely unimpressed by...
36:59Does your connection to the music world ever impress them?
37:02Because, you know, maybe if they don't like your music,
37:04like, you probably meet people.
37:05Yeah. I mean, I was at a wedding,
37:09and I met Taylor Swift.
37:12And I thought... I had, like, my mom hat on,
37:14and I was like, I need to go over to Taylor Swift
37:18and do this for my daughter.
37:20Yeah.
37:21Like, every other person in the world
37:23needs to have that moment with Taylor Swift.
37:26Well, I bet she probably hasn't met anybody
37:27whose kid was a fan of hers.
37:29No. I know. I know. Poor girl.
37:31She's really struggling and shit.
37:33Yeah.
37:35And so I kind of do this spiel where I'm like,
37:38hi, my daughter has a band called Galaxy Kittens,
37:43and they just do... Yeah, great. Yeah. Yeah.
37:47Taylor Swift said great band name.
37:50And I was like, yeah, they just do Taylor Swift covers.
37:53And she was like, oh, great.
37:53And she's, like, really pro and indulging me.
37:56She's an incredibly patient and lovely person.
37:59She's, like, presidential. Like, she's amazing.
38:01And, like, I'm there going...
38:02And then, like, the verbal diarrhea keeps on going.
38:06And then I tell her about how much we're talking about her.
38:09Therefore, my algorithms are all Taylor.
38:11And it was just before I could have just left it there.
38:14I could have been chic.
38:16I could have been, like, so nice to meet you.
38:17I've got the story for my daughter.
38:19She likes Galaxy Kittens.
38:20And instead, I go, yeah, and now my algorithms
38:23are all Taylor Swift.
38:24And, like, you're doing the Super Bowl, right?
38:26And she's like, I'm not doing the Super Bowl.
38:27And I was like, sourdough? Sourdough Sam?
38:30San Francisco? And she's like, I'm not doing the...
38:33Nice to meet you.
38:34She was...
38:36And I'm surprised security didn't, like, jump at me.
38:38She was so nice.
38:39I know. I think she's so nice that sometimes
38:42when you talk to a person that is that nice
38:44and that talented, you go a little crazy.
38:45Yeah, I went crazy. And then I was like, oh, my,
38:47I'm such a prat. Yeah, it was not...
38:50But then I got the story for my daughter.
38:51Yeah, there you go. I hope you...
38:52And she wasn't impressed.
38:56She's like, sounds like you embarrassed yourself, Mom.
38:59Oh, girl.
38:59Hey, next time, if you see someone I'm a fan of,
39:01just you don't have to.
39:02Yeah, exactly.
39:04It's so lovely to have you here again.
39:05Oh, I love you so much.
39:06Congratulations on the new album.
39:08I'm so happy you're here.
39:10You guys, this is Jessie Ware.
39:11Super Bloom is up April 17th.
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