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00:00Her dog bit you.
00:01He did clamp down on the left buttock.
00:04Was your dog up to date with shots?
00:06No. I got laid off from my job.
00:09Oh, it's not my fault. I lost a job. It's not my fault.
00:12The dog ate my homework.
00:15Do you understand how stupid that sounds?
00:17This is Judy Justice.
00:37Joseph Otanez is suing his neighbor, Samantha Lira, for damages resulting from a dog bite.
00:45Court, come to order. All rise.
00:48Have a seat, everyone.
00:51Judge, case 4057, Antonez v. Lira.
00:54You're welcome.
00:55Mr. Antonez, how old are you, sir?
00:5739.
00:58What do you do for a living?
00:59I'm a cinematographer and editor.
01:00Are you independently hired or do you work for a company?
01:04I'm freelance.
01:04You've been doing that for a long time?
01:06I chose a good time to go in. I went in January of 2020.
01:10Is this your wife?
01:11Yes.
01:12What's her name?
01:13Sarah.
01:13Do you own or you rent a house?
01:15We own.
01:16How long have you owned a house?
01:1712 years.
01:18How long have you been married?
01:20Four years.
01:22But together for 12?
01:24No.
01:25Eight.
01:25Eight years total.
01:27Do you have kids together?
01:28Three dogs.
01:29What kind?
01:29Two scruffy mixes and a German Shepherd, all rescues.
01:33Ever been incarcerated, sir?
01:35No.
01:35Ever been arrested?
01:36No.
01:37I ask you those questions because of some issues that the defendant raises in response to your case.
01:42Okay.
01:43Because this case is a dog bite case.
01:45It is your claim that you were walking in the street and her dog bit you.
01:49Bit you in the derriere.
01:51Bit you in the behind.
01:52And you want to be compensated for your medical bills and a little for pain and suffering.
01:57That's correct.
01:57For her negligence.
01:58She says you were drunk and stumbled onto her property and it was your fault.
02:03And aside from that, she doesn't think anything happened.
02:06You probably fell because you were drunk.
02:08You have a driver's license.
02:09I do.
02:09I assume.
02:09Ever get arrested for DUI?
02:11No.
02:12I also don't drink.
02:13I never have.
02:13I'm just asking you some straightforward, objective questions so that I'm perfectly comfortable
02:20with what I see and I am.
02:23Okay.
02:24So on what date did this happen?
02:26March 21st at about 4.30 p.m.
02:29Light out.
02:30And what were you doing?
02:31I was on a daily walk through my neighborhood.
02:33It's something I do every day, pretty much.
02:35And how long have you been in your house?
02:3732 years.
02:38And how old is the dog that you have?
02:40He's a five-year-old Dalmatian.
02:41How long have you had him?
02:43Five years.
02:43Have you ever walked past her house before?
02:45Yes.
02:46Often?
02:47Every day.
02:48Okay.
02:48And have you seen this dog before?
02:49I can't say that I have, but I may have.
02:52Okay.
02:53So tell me what happened.
02:54So March 21st, my daily walk, I was on the sidewalk and as I crossed the front of her
03:00house, I saw her dog, Dexter.
03:02He saw me.
03:03He started barking and then-
03:04How did you know the dog's name?
03:06I only know that now after the animal control report.
03:08Your dog's name is Dexter?
03:10Dexter Lyra.
03:11Okay.
03:11Go ahead.
03:12So the dog saw me.
03:13He started barking and then he lunged, but I saw he was on a leash, so I thought, that's
03:17okay.
03:17It's a dog's job.
03:18So I kept walking.
03:20And then before I knew it, he was on the sidewalk behind me.
03:22And then he lunged and I kind of tried to move out of the way, but then he did clamp
03:27down
03:27on the left buttock.
03:29When he released me, I got far enough away around her driveway where the dog couldn't get
03:34to me anymore.
03:35He was still pulling at the leash.
03:37At that point, I took out my phone because I was going to take a picture, mark where I
03:41was, take a note, something.
03:42And then that's when Miss Lyra came out of her house and I said, your dog just bit me.
03:46And she said, my dog doesn't bite.
03:47And I said, well, he did.
03:49He just bit me.
03:49And then I reached behind me and I felt a hole in my pants.
03:52And I said, there's a hole in my pants.
03:53And she said, let me see.
03:54So I turned around and showed her.
03:56And then I asked her name and her address.
03:58I neglected to get her phone number because I was, frankly, out of sorts.
04:02And I left.
04:04Once I got far enough away, I reached into my pants just to see how bad it was.
04:08And my hand came back with blood.
04:10So then at that point, I went straight home.
04:12I showed my wife the wound.
04:13I asked her how bad it was.
04:14She took a picture.
04:15I do have those pictures here, too.
04:17I'd like to see that photograph.
04:18I would, too.
04:19I don't care what you would like.
04:22This isn't a dance party.
04:23I've never seen a picture.
04:24Just a sec.
04:25Of course, if something's in evidence, we'll show it to you.
04:29The first two pictures are the damage to the clothing.
04:32And then the last picture is the scar that I still have.
04:36I don't understand, but this is a picture.
04:37So on the left, that's my underwear with blood.
04:41Oh, your underwear has it?
04:42Yeah.
04:42The skeletons on it.
04:43I couldn't figure out what it was.
04:45Okay.
04:46I'm going to show this to you now, Miss Lyra.
05:03Okay.
05:03And I understand from your papers that you sought some medical attention.
05:07May I see your practice for that, please?
05:09Yes.
05:09This is the hospital visit, and it does state reason for visit is dog bite.
05:17So you were given an antibiotic.
05:20Yes.
05:20Okay.
05:21Was your dog up to date with shots?
05:23No.
05:24Why not?
05:24I got laid off from my job in June.
05:27What does that have to do with your dog?
05:28He got it done in March for the rabies, but all the other vaccinations are up to date.
05:32So he wasn't vaccinated at the time of this incident?
05:36I wouldn't say that.
05:37When I got the dog, he got all his shots.
05:39He got his rabies.
05:40The rabies is good for three years.
05:42So in June, I got laid off from my job.
05:44I was out of work for eight or nine months.
05:47In November or December, he was due for his rabies.
05:50So like two months, three months, he didn't have the shot, which is true.
05:53And I didn't have a job, so I wasn't able to go into my house.
05:56You had a job or not.
05:57You're eight.
05:57You bought makeup at Sephora or Ulta.
06:00You drove a car.
06:02At that time, I did it.
06:03Just a second.
06:03You drove a car.
06:04You paid your rent.
06:06I don't pay rent.
06:07You own a house?
06:08No, I don't pay anything.
06:09So who do you live with?
06:10I live with my dad.
06:11You live with your father?
06:13Mm-hmm.
06:13Okay.
06:14Well, then you ask your father to take money out and take your dog to the vet
06:18and make sure that if your dog is up to date, on its shot.
06:22As soon as I started working again, I took him to get it.
06:25That's a shoulda, woulda, coulda, madam.
06:26I know, but...
06:27That means that you're placing somebody else at risk.
06:30If your dog bit somebody else, and that somebody else says,
06:35well, am I going to take a chance?
06:37Because she lost her job.
06:39Let me figure this out, genius.
06:41She lost her job, so she couldn't get her dog rabies shots.
06:46And now her dog, Nipmi, broke the skin.
06:50And because she didn't have a job and prioritized her other funds,
06:56I have to be on antibiotics for a week
06:59so that I don't worry that I'm going to get rabies.
07:03Do you understand how stupid that sounds?
07:07You're 32.
07:08What generation does that make her?
07:09Me?
07:10Millennial?
07:11Millennial.
07:11A millennial?
07:12Millennial.
07:12A millennial.
07:14As soon as I got my job.
07:16Millennials, they're not the greatest generation.
07:18Is that right?
07:19No, I don't think so.
07:20And later today...
07:21In May of 2023, he was arrested and...
07:26I don't think that's relevant to the case, Your Honor.
07:28Shh, shh.
07:28Well, it is.
07:29It's her defense, actually.
07:40Joseph Otanez claims his neighbor, Samantha Lira,
07:45is responsible for his injuries after her Dalmatian bit him.
07:49Do you understand, to a normal citizen,
07:55just a normal citizen, not, oh, it's not my fault,
07:58I lost a job, it's not my fault, the dog ate my homework,
08:02you're in my personal space, get out of my personal space.
08:05I lost my job, I couldn't take care of my dog,
08:08that's too bad that you had to be inconvenienced
08:10by taking antibiotics for a week.
08:14Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds to me?
08:16In that order, but I was laid off in June,
08:19he was due November, I took him in March,
08:22as soon as I started working again.
08:24But my dog had never bit anyone before.
08:26He's the lovely first person.
08:27Do you understand what I'm saying to you?
08:30Do you understand that?
08:31Yeah, but...
08:32How old are you?
08:33I want to know.
08:33I'm 32.
08:34You're 32, what generation does that make her?
08:37Millennial, millennial.
08:38A millennial.
08:39Millennial.
08:39A millennial.
08:41As soon as I got my job.
08:43Millennials, they're not the greatest generation,
08:45is that right?
08:46No.
08:46I don't think so.
08:47I don't think anyone can classify that.
08:48That sort of passed them by.
08:49That's the greatest generation.
08:49Okay.
08:50All right.
08:51I got it.
08:52Is that your video or your video?
08:54That's me in my home.
08:56Oh, well, then it's your video.
08:58So that's my wonderful Dexter.
09:04And that's the sidewalk.
09:10What are you showing me?
09:11That's a nice dog.
09:12But that's the tether in my yard
09:13that I've been using for five years.
09:15I don't care whether it's a tether in your yard.
09:17He told me what happened.
09:18Did you see what happened with your dog?
09:20Yeah.
09:24Did you see what happened in the interaction
09:28between the plaintiff and your dog?
09:31Really?
09:32So you just said to me,
09:34you observed the interaction that he just described
09:39with your dog.
09:41Yes.
09:41So you were outside.
09:43I was there.
09:44I didn't say I was on the lawn,
09:46but I was there when it happened.
09:47That's not what you said in your answer.
09:50That's exactly...
09:51That's no.
09:51It's not what you said in your answer.
09:53Well, can I explain my side?
09:54You can.
09:55Please.
09:56You can.
09:57Go ahead.
09:58Okay.
09:58I'm reading your answer.
09:59Go ahead.
09:59So it was a wonderful March.
10:01I had just got a job, actually.
10:03And I got home from work.
10:05My baby boy came downstairs.
10:07I opened my front door.
10:08I tethered him in.
10:09I've been using this tether for five years.
10:11He's never...
10:11Tethered him in where?
10:12So my front yard, I have grass.
10:14I saw the front yard, yeah.
10:16Yeah, my back...
10:16So where is the tether?
10:18It's on my porch.
10:19Tether is on your porch,
10:20and you actually saw the dog tethered.
10:22I did.
10:23To something.
10:24Mm-hmm.
10:24Go ahead.
10:25Okay.
10:26I have concrete in my backyard,
10:27so I've been using my front yard.
10:28No, no, no.
10:29I just want you to tell me what you did.
10:32You came home from work.
10:33You opened the door.
10:35Okay.
10:35You tethered the door to something
10:37that you have holding,
10:38a leash or a tether,
10:40holding onto the dog,
10:42and then what happened?
10:43My front door is open.
10:44I have my front door here,
10:46and my window is here.
10:47I'm sitting there taking off my shoes.
10:49I hear him barking.
10:51I look up.
10:52I see him stumbling on my yard.
10:54My dog can't reach the sidewalk.
10:55I didn't hear what you said.
10:57I see him stumbling in my yard
10:58on my dog walk.
10:59He was, like, stumbling around the sidewalk,
11:01so he's on my grass.
11:03My dog barked at him.
11:04He kind of fell,
11:05and then I asked him.
11:07I said, are you okay?
11:08He says, I don't know.
11:09I need to go home and check,
11:11and I was like, okay,
11:13and then he left.
11:14Do you have any other bills to show me?
11:16I do.
11:17Here are the two bills
11:19from medical insurance.
11:25Did you pay this $1,418?
11:29Yes, I did,
11:30and I have receipt of that as well.
11:31Can I see that, please?
11:34There are two there,
11:35one for $14 and change,
11:37one for $15.
11:38Well, that's because it seems
11:40you went for this visit,
11:43and then you had to go
11:44to an emergency room?
11:45I did have to go
11:46to the emergency room.
11:47Originally, I went to urgent care,
11:48but they turned me away
11:49because they don't deal with rabies,
11:51so I had to go
11:52to the emergency room.
11:53Did you present these bills
11:55to the defendant?
11:57I did.
11:57I have a record
11:58of our text messages.
11:59May I see them, please?
12:00Yes.
12:08Oh, well,
12:10on July 12th,
12:11he says if,
12:12because he keeps asking you
12:14to reimburse him
12:15for the expenses,
12:16and you don't answer him
12:18for a while,
12:19and finally,
12:20he says to you,
12:21if you tell me
12:22your insurance provider
12:23and policy,
12:24they can reimburse me,
12:26and it won't have to be
12:27out of your pocket.
12:29It's like going after
12:30someone's car insurance
12:31after the accident.
12:32They take care of it,
12:33and you respond to him.
12:35Remember this?
12:36Absolutely.
12:36Oh, I see.
12:37My dad is the homeowner,
12:39so I'd rather take
12:40the responsibility
12:41and leave him out of it.
12:43I'd be happy
12:43to reimburse you.
12:45Well, so what happened?
12:47If you look at the text,
12:48he sent me a screenshot
12:49this big that says,
12:50medical claim,
12:51$1,400.
12:52There's no detail.
12:53I asked him,
12:53can you send me
12:54an itemized bill?
12:54Just a second.
12:55Just a second.
12:56I'm glad you feel that way.
12:58If you can send me
12:59Zelle payment for $2,000,
13:01we'll call it done,
13:02which covers most of the bills
13:04and maybe some
13:05of your aggravation.
13:06And you say,
13:07can you please send me
13:08an itemized bill
13:09and your email address?
13:10I also need an address
13:12for the release,
13:13because you want to be released
13:14from liability.
13:15And then he responds to you,
13:18hands off your hips.
13:19Okay, he says,
13:20here's the thing,
13:21and I haven't read this,
13:22so I'm reading it
13:23at the same time
13:24as I'm reading it out loud.
13:25I already sent you
13:26a copy of my original bill
13:28on April 2nd.
13:29We're now talking
13:30about July,
13:31which you chose to ignore
13:32for three months
13:34until I got a lawyer.
13:35This is not
13:36a business expense reimbursement.
13:38It's an out-of-court settlement.
13:40$2,000 is for medical bills.
13:43The clothes that were damaged
13:44and the stress I suffered
13:46the whole situation caused me.
13:48It's beyond fair.
13:50You can send the release
13:51via text,
13:52but I expect it to be paid
13:53before signing.
13:55Did you discuss this matter
13:56with your father?
13:57That's a yes or a no.
14:00Yes.
14:00That's a yes?
14:01What does that mean?
14:02Does that mean,
14:03yes, I did?
14:03Well, he came to my home
14:04the next day and harassed me.
14:05No, I'm asking you
14:05whether you discussed it
14:07with your father.
14:07That's either a yes or a no.
14:09Does your father
14:10have homeowner's insurance?
14:11Yes.
14:12Did you tell him,
14:13could we put this
14:14through homeowner's insurance?
14:15No, because I have $1,400
14:17and I can pay him the money.
14:18So why didn't you pay him?
14:19Because he sent me a,
14:20if you look at the text message,
14:22that's the only bill
14:22I've ever received.
14:23It's this,
14:24it's a screenshot this big.
14:25There's no detail.
14:26There's nothing on there.
14:28I asked him,
14:28can you show me an itemized bill
14:30and a receipt that you paid it?
14:31I'm not just going to
14:32sell someone $2,000
14:33without seeing like,
14:35I've never saw
14:35a picture of the bike.
14:36Just one second.
14:37Just one second.
14:38Hold on a second.
14:39Between April,
14:41when he sent this to you,
14:42April 2nd,
14:44and you have papers
14:45in front of you,
14:46between April 2nd
14:47and July,
14:48can you show me
14:50where you said to him,
14:52that's not a good enough
14:54itemized statement for me?
14:58What's the address
14:59on your driver's license?
15:01His address,
15:02where he lives now.
15:03Where do you get your mail?
15:05Look at me.
15:06Where do you get your mail?
15:09At his house.
15:10You know where I'm going
15:11with this, right?
15:12Yes, ma'am.
15:22Joseph O'Tonez
15:24claims his neighbor,
15:25Samantha Lira,
15:27is responsible for his injuries
15:29after her Dalmatian
15:30bit him.
15:31Okay.
15:32Show me
15:33where you said to him,
15:34that's not a good enough
15:36itemized statement for me.
15:38Something
15:38that suggests
15:39that you didn't just
15:40ignore him
15:41April,
15:43May,
15:44and June,
15:45three months.
15:45Just listen,
15:47don't speak.
15:48Unless you're going
15:49to tell me
15:50I didn't answer him
15:51for three months.
15:52I did ignore him.
15:53Gotcha.
15:55Okay.
15:55I actually believe
15:56that he's entitled
15:58to something
15:58for being bitten
15:59by your dog.
16:00Judgment for the plaintiff
16:02in the amount
16:02of $5,000.
16:03I hope you have
16:04a good job.
16:05We're done.
16:05This court is adjourned.
16:11I'm honestly
16:12just so happy
16:13that this is over with
16:14because this man
16:14has been stressing me
16:15out for months.
16:16I'm ecstatic.
16:17I'm so glad
16:18that this is finally
16:19behind me
16:19after a better part
16:21of a year.
16:21Something like nine months?
16:22The fact that this is done,
16:24he'll get his little check
16:25and then I can move on
16:26and be happy.
16:27I'm more shocked
16:29that she said
16:29I was drunk
16:30because I don't drink.
16:31I never have.
16:34You know,
16:35I'm not sure
16:35how I feel
16:36about those dog tethers,
16:37especially in a front yard
16:39where you have sidewalks
16:40that your neighbors
16:41or anyone walking
16:42through the neighborhood
16:43because I've seen a dog
16:44before on a front porch
16:46and you don't know
16:47if it's tethered or not.
16:49And in that split second
16:50when it starts running
16:50at you
16:51and you're not sure
16:52if anything's going
16:53to catch it
16:53before it gets to you,
16:55that's frightening
16:55to someone walking by.
16:57No matter what kind
16:57of dog it is.
16:59You know,
16:59a little dog,
17:00a big dog,
17:00a Dalmatian
17:01is obviously
17:01quite a big dog.
17:02You know,
17:03you're right.
17:04It's all about
17:05being a good citizen.
17:06And considerate
17:07of other people.
17:08And so in my next career,
17:10which I'm actually sitting
17:11and thinking about
17:12right now,
17:13I'm contemplating
17:15doing what your generation
17:16wouldn't remember,
17:17but my generation
17:18certainly does,
17:19an Andy Rooney minute.
17:21Andy Rooney
17:22used to be
17:23on a program
17:24called 60 Minutes
17:25before he passed away.
17:26And at the end
17:26of every 60 Minutes,
17:27he would have
17:28a minute or two
17:28and he would be complaining
17:30about something
17:31in society.
17:32And since Andy Rooney,
17:34nobody is around
17:35to complain
17:35about those things
17:36that people should do
17:38to be good citizens.
17:39I could go on forever.
17:41And I'm sure you will.
17:42And I might.
17:44Case 4015,
17:45Coleman versus Parks.
17:47All parties,
17:47please come forward.
17:49John Coleman
17:50is suing
17:51his ex-girlfriend,
17:53Tishana Parks,
17:54for an unpaid
17:55school loan.
17:57Mr. Coleman,
17:59you and Ms. Parks
17:59had a relationship
18:00for a period of time
18:02and you have
18:02a child together.
18:03Yes, ma'am.
18:03And while you were
18:04living together,
18:06the defendant,
18:07according to your complaint,
18:09wanted to go to school
18:11to become a dental assistant.
18:13That is correct.
18:14It was an eight-month program
18:15and the cost of the program
18:18was $7,500.
18:20That's correct.
18:20She couldn't afford
18:22to take out a loan,
18:24evidently cost of credit,
18:26so you co-signed
18:27the loan for her.
18:28That's right.
18:28So far,
18:29is that correct?
18:30Yes, Your Honor.
18:32Subsequently,
18:32you broke up.
18:33Correct.
18:34The defendant
18:34is not paying the loan
18:36and you,
18:37in order to protect
18:38your credit,
18:39either have started
18:40to pay the loan
18:41or want it paid off.
18:43So which one is it?
18:44Have you started
18:44to pay off the loan?
18:45I have started
18:46to make payments
18:46towards the loan.
18:47How much did you pay
18:48on the loan
18:49that you can prove
18:49to me today?
18:50I don't know
18:51the exact amounts.
18:52I've been making
18:52payments of between
18:53$90 and $122.
18:55Well, you have
18:56that proof today.
18:56I do.
18:57Yes, Your Honor.
18:58Okay.
18:58When did you start
18:59paying off the loan?
19:01December, 2023.
19:02December of 2023.
19:05That is correct.
19:06Okay, now let's
19:06get some dates.
19:07When were you
19:08and the defendant
19:09living together?
19:10We had been living
19:11together since
19:12about December of 2017,
19:13all the way up
19:14until, oh my goodness,
19:17September of 2023.
19:19And when was
19:20this loan taken out?
19:21The end of January
19:22in 2023.
19:23When did you
19:24start school?
19:25In January.
19:27Of 2023?
19:28Yes.
19:29And you were
19:29still living together?
19:30Yes.
19:31Now, Ms. Parks,
19:32do you recall
19:33where you were
19:34when the loan
19:34was taken out?
19:35Was it taken out
19:36at a bank
19:36or was it taken out
19:37over mail?
19:39We did it online
19:40with my computer
19:41at home.
19:42Okay.
19:43Did you start
19:43school in January?
19:45I did, yes.
19:46And what happened?
19:47I was doing well
19:49and then in May
19:50of 2023 he was arrested
19:54and...
19:54I don't think
19:55that's relevant
19:55to the case, Your Honor.
19:57Well, it is.
19:57It's her defense, actually.
19:59It doesn't take away
20:00from her responsibility
20:00of paying the loan.
20:01Just a second.
20:02It's her defense.
20:03Sure.
20:03He was arrested
20:04in May of 2023
20:05and had to spend
20:06a few months in jail
20:09and...
20:09How long?
20:10Until July of 2023.
20:13And because of that,
20:14the program that I was in,
20:16it was Monday
20:17through Friday,
20:18nine to five,
20:19and it was an hour away.
20:20So I was dependent
20:21on him to take our daughter
20:23to daycare
20:24and to pick her up.
20:25And when he went to jail,
20:27I didn't have that help.
20:29I didn't have anyone
20:30to watch her
20:31or to take her.
20:32You were not working?
20:33I was not working.
20:34So Mr. Coleman was working?
20:37Yes.
20:38He was paying our bills.
20:39And he was paying the bills
20:40since 2017?
20:42Or had you been working?
20:44I had been working
20:44before we had our daughter.
20:46Okay.
20:46Now, you went into
20:48a county jail,
20:48I assume,
20:49if it was a short period
20:50of time.
20:50Sure.
20:51That's the first time
20:52since 2017
20:53you had been incarcerated?
20:54Correct.
20:55Everybody makes mistakes,
20:56you know,
20:56partying a little too much,
20:57being a dumb kid.
20:58Are you on parole?
21:00No.
21:00Is that case over?
21:01Yes.
21:02When you went to jail
21:04for that two-month period,
21:06where did you go?
21:07I was still living
21:08at the house.
21:09Who was paying the rent?
21:11I was from jail.
21:12Is that correct?
21:13Yes.
21:14When you got out of jail,
21:16did you go back
21:16to that same apartment?
21:18Yes, absolutely.
21:19She wasn't there?
21:20She was.
21:21That was July of 2023.
21:22I think we didn't separate
21:24and she didn't move out
21:24until September of 2023.
21:26So she was still there.
21:27Oh, so she was still there?
21:28Correct.
21:29So what happened?
21:30I wasn't able
21:31to finish school.
21:32Why?
21:32I didn't have assistance
21:35with my daughter.
21:36I didn't have anyone
21:36who could take her to daycare
21:38or pick her up.
21:39And the times that I was in school
21:40and because my school
21:41was an hour away,
21:43it wasn't possible
21:44for me to do either.
21:46You were living
21:47in this same apartment
21:48since 2017?
21:50Correct.
21:50A house, actually, yes.
21:51So there were no friends?
21:53There was no anyone?
21:55I mean, it was a long time.
21:57It's six years.
21:58I didn't have anyone
21:59who could take her
22:00Monday through Friday consistently.
22:02When he co-signed
22:04this loan for you,
22:05was it your arrangement
22:06that when you went back
22:07to work,
22:07you would pay off the loan?
22:09Yes.
22:09Okay.
22:10Well, then it would seem
22:11to me it's your responsibility
22:13to pay off the loan.
22:14Are you working?
22:15I'm working part-time right now.
22:17And what else are you doing?
22:18Watching our daughter.
22:20He works full-time.
22:21What does that have
22:22to do with you?
22:22Are you together?
22:24No, but I am the one
22:25who is responsible
22:27for our daughter.
22:28She is.
22:29She's an incredible mom.
22:30I have to give her...
22:31Don't speak.
22:32Yes, ma'am.
22:33Don't speak.
22:34Do you have a car?
22:35I do, yes.
22:36The car is in your name?
22:39Yes.
22:39When did you purchase it?
22:41I want to say November of 2019.
22:43It's all paid off?
22:44No, actually,
22:45I make those payments.
22:46I make the payments
22:46on the car as well.
22:48Mm-hmm.
22:48What's the address
22:49on your driver's license?
22:51His address,
22:52where he lives now.
22:53Where do you get your mail?
22:55Look at me.
22:56Where do you get your mail?
22:58At his house.
23:00You know where
23:00I'm going with this, right?
23:02Yes, ma'am.
23:02Do you know
23:02I'm not buying all this?
23:04This is what I'm going to do, folks,
23:05because I'm not buying this case.
23:07Do you understand?
23:08Yes, Your Honor.
23:08I'm dismissing it
23:09without prejudice.
23:10You go back to your local...
23:12I don't understand.
23:12You go back...
23:13You go back to your local
23:14small claim score
23:15because I don't think
23:16that you don't live together.
23:18That's what I don't...
23:19She moved out.
23:20She left.
23:21She moved out.
23:22She was gone for an entire year.
23:24I was out of school.
23:24You can try to talk over me
23:26all you like.
23:27Your Honor,
23:27she moved to Hawaii.
23:28She was gone.
23:29I'm not buying it
23:30that you don't currently
23:32live together.
23:33That has nothing to do
23:34with the loan, Your Honor.
23:35Oh, yes, it does, sir.
23:36How so?
23:37The case is dismissed
23:39because you lied in your papers.
23:41I did not lie on anything.
23:42This court is adjourned.
23:51What they wrote in the papers
23:53was she left to go to Hawaii.
23:55She came back
23:56so he could be part
23:57of the child's life
23:57to Colorado,
23:59but they're not together
24:00and now he's paying off the loan.
24:02The truth of the matter
24:03is they've been living
24:03as a family,
24:05as a family since 2017.
24:09With the brief stint
24:10when she went back to Hawaii
24:11while he was incarcerated.
24:13She didn't even say she did.
24:15She may have gone back there
24:16for a couple of weeks.
24:17In her papers, she did.
24:17She said in her paper
24:19she went back,
24:19but he said she was there
24:20until July.
24:21He went in in May.
24:23I mean, the fact that
24:23he's still paying her car note
24:25for the car,
24:26the fact that he's still saying,
24:27oh, she's a fabulous mother,
24:29all those things
24:30would tend to lead me
24:31to believe.
24:31And she has a driver's license
24:33that still is his address.
24:35She still gets her mail
24:37at his address
24:38convinced somebody else
24:40that this is a lawsuit,
24:41not me.
24:43Are you having
24:44a family dispute?
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