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00:00The following program documents real law enforcement investigations of child sexual predators.
00:06This deeply disturbing content may be triggering for some viewers.
00:09Please watch with care.
00:12Next, the team hunts a predator in Houston.
00:15The twist is, he's one of their own.
00:18He's a pervert with a badge.
00:20Concern would be an understatement.
00:23My reputation is completely destroyed.
00:25Then, Detective Tony Godwin races to stop a predator who secretly records his victims.
00:32I'm like, this guy is sick.
00:34Never in a million years did I imagine this would happen.
00:41And later, Tony joins forces to stop a predator who just can't keep it in his pants.
00:46There he is in all his glory, pants and underwear down around his ankle.
00:50It's a very, very memorable arrest.
00:51I might have said I was going to do it, but I was never going to do it.
00:57A team of police professionals in North Dallas has one goal.
01:02Take down online predators before they harm a real child.
01:07Child predators are everywhere.
01:10Online predators pose the biggest danger to America's children today.
01:15Kids are being targeted at an alarming rate.
01:18This team is opening its case files for the first time to show you how it tracks them down.
01:25All right, he's coming this way.
01:27And brings them to justice by any means necessary.
01:32Candle card.
01:34This is Detective Tony Godwin and his team is...
01:38The Predator Hunters.
01:41I just need you.
01:42You have a phantom.
01:43We have a suit.
01:43You are in the arrest.
01:45It's 2017.
01:47Detectives Tony Godwin and Brandon Poore are facing their toughest takedown yet.
01:52Both terrifying and shocking.
01:55But what I find out next is just mind-blowing.
01:58This guy is a cop.
02:00We both know.
02:01This is it for me.
02:03You know, these cases come along that you're never going to forget.
02:06This guy here, Donald De Nert, this is one of them.
02:09This one hits so close to home.
02:11Because this guy was a cop.
02:13At the end of the day, we were able to take his knowledge of law enforcement and tactics
02:18and use it against him to get him into custody without him even knowing about it.
02:31This case revolves around my friend and colleague, Brandon Poore.
02:35He's a detective on the ICAC Task Force.
02:37I have known Brandon for a very long time, over 10 years.
02:41We collaborate on cases quite a bit.
02:44A lot of times, I'm assisting him on his search warrants and his cases, and he's doing the same for
02:50mine.
02:53Brandon is online doing an undercover proactive investigation into the Internet Relay Chat, what we call IRC.
03:01IRC is one of the oldest chat platforms that exists.
03:05It looks very old school.
03:07It consists of a bunch of different channels and forums that's unmonitored.
03:13The culture of IRC is horrific.
03:16It's not for the faint of heart, I promise you.
03:19There are channels like dad and daughter sex, baby and toddler love, and things that are horrible.
03:25You will find predators who are sharing back and forth material and communications
03:30and talking about things that would literally make your stomach turn.
03:36So, in this case, I created an undercover profile of a 31-year-old mom named Laura.
03:41I portray myself as a mom of two daughters, ages 5 and 11.
03:48The idea is that Brandon's going to use this profile, who's got two daughters available, and offer them up for
03:53sex.
03:55The sad reality is, it's based on real things that we know have happened.
04:01Real adults, who have had their own children, or access to children, offered them up for sexual purposes.
04:09I'm hit with dozens of messages right away.
04:13But one user sticks out from the others.
04:16Because its title, loves young, gives me some sort of indication as to what this user might be looking for.
04:26He's asking me how many daughters I have.
04:30And he says, I bet they're both so cute and sexy.
04:33I love mothers and their young daughters.
04:37So, out of the realm of anything a normal person would even think about, feels a little more creepy to
04:44me.
04:44I have kids and it hits a little closer to home.
04:47So, I'm playing naive.
04:50I'm basically telling him, I haven't really talked about anything like this.
04:56And he's saying it would be something he would want to actually do.
04:59Over the next few weeks, the messages start becoming more graphic and more explicit.
05:05Both terrifying and shocking.
05:08Concern would be an understatement.
05:11My biggest fear, that he's going to go meet a real kid, or in this case, the parent that has
05:16access to kids.
05:21Brandon shows me some of the communications between he and this user, loves young.
05:25I'm telling you, it's so disgusting.
05:29The deviant, horrible things he wants to do to a child.
05:32This guy is a problem.
05:34So, we've got to do everything we can to figure out who he is, find him, and put his ass
05:39in jail.
05:42Tony subpoenas the internet provider for information about loves young's identity.
05:46I eventually get the information back, and they give me an address in the Houston area.
05:51And it comes back to a guy named Donald DeNerd.
05:53I do a little bit of digging, and I find a Facebook profile for this guy.
05:57And on the surface, he just looks like some normal married guy, family dude.
06:01He's got a pet.
06:03But what I find out next is just mind-blowing.
06:08This guy is a cop.
06:15He has lived a life of sworn to protect the community, yet he leads this double life, where he's soliciting
06:21someone to have sex with children.
06:23It really makes me sick to my stomach to say these things.
06:26At the end of the day, he's a pervert with a badge.
06:32The next thing that Brandon needs to do is really establish, is this guy DeNerd going to follow through in
06:37what he's been saying online,
06:38and actually show up to engage in a sex act with a child?
06:44We're talking over the holiday period.
06:47He says he wishes he could have my girls under the Christmas tree and unwrap them slowly.
06:55I mean, what do you say to that?
06:57He's most certainly having some sort of Christmas with his family,
07:02but he's stepping away to go to the computer and tell me these things.
07:07Jekyll and Hyde. That's what it is. It's Jekyll and Hyde.
07:11After several months of Brandon working this undercover Laura profile and offering up these two girls,
07:17DeNerd finally makes a suggestion for a meet in real life,
07:21and he's going to engage in a sexual encounter with two kids.
07:27He's making it very clear he wants an entire weekend with these kids
07:34sexually abusing these children.
07:38Now that he's given me a concrete day, I think it's time to make an op plan.
07:43I'm going to go meet with Tony to do that now.
07:46You know, this is an absolute worst-case scenario for us.
07:50There's so many things that could go wrong.
07:52One, this guy knows every tactic used by law enforcement.
07:56We have to confront him at his house.
07:59We've got to come up with a plan that's not going to alert him that he's being arrested.
08:03He's got guns, or at least a gun.
08:06He could barricade.
08:07We could get into a shootout.
08:09There's so many variables, and this thing is so touchy.
08:12It's like a powder keg about to explode.
08:15Okay, I got a plan.
08:18We use what he knows about what we do to help us and benefit us, right?
08:24So his house is here, he's got a street here, and he's got a neighbor right across the street there.
08:31What if we park the SWAT van right here, put an ambulance here, and make it look like we're at
08:38some police operation across the street, and then before he has a time to think about it, they surround him.
08:45We have him put his hands on his head and disarm him.
08:48So putting the SWAT truck and an ambulance directly in front of his house.
08:52It's crazy.
08:53It's genius, though.
08:54We need this guy to be so dismissive, like, who knew I was across the street from a crime or
09:00a criminal, when in fact, it's for him.
09:08We're set up right in front of Daynert's address, waiting for him to come out.
09:14It's like 6 o'clock in the morning, they know full well this is the normal time that Daynert leaves
09:19to go to work.
09:21The whole anticipation is unlike anything else, because everybody's anxious, everybody's amped up, it's really nerve-wracking.
09:32All right.
09:35And then he comes out of his house, cup of coffee in hand, oblivious to what's going on.
09:41His focus is on the SWAT guys, and he doesn't really have a moment to think about what might be
09:47happening.
09:49They all turn, they focus all their weapons on him.
09:53I just need...
09:53Yeah.
09:54Hands up, guys.
09:54We're gonna relieve you of that.
09:56We have to switch off your weapon.
09:59And they get him into custody.
10:01We're not gonna cuff you as long as you're compliant, okay?
10:04I'm, I'm perfect.
10:06All I had at this point was a search warrant.
10:08That's part of the reason why we don't handcuff him, so that we can build a rapport to hopefully get
10:14him to agree to an interview.
10:15We're gonna speak with you and explain exactly what's going on.
10:17We've told everyone the same thing.
10:19If you'll just bear with us just a second.
10:22I'm a little curious as to whether he's gonna talk to us.
10:25I mean, he knows what an interview is like for a police officer or an investigator in this case.
10:31Before Brandon conducts his interview, the team searches Daner's home.
10:35It's been free and clear to move you in there or to show you what we've seen.
10:42So this looks like a computer room.
10:44What they're looking for, obviously, is anything capable of connecting to the Internet.
10:48Ah, there's, look at that, there's more computers here, there's a laptop right there.
10:52They seize 40 electronic devices in total.
10:56SD cards, memory sticks, cameras, laptops, everything you can imagine.
11:00All of which has to be submitted and examined forensically.
11:04Have a seat in the front there for me.
11:08The fact that he's doing this interview in the car, this is a really common tactic that we use.
11:13Get him while they're really thinking what is going on and see if we can capitalize on it.
11:18Sorry to have you standing around for so long.
11:20It's all right, I hadn't had my coffee, I'm like...
11:24I'm baffled.
11:25The fact that this guy who's been in law enforcement talking to a detective about this type of crime
11:31and doesn't ask for a lawyer blows my mind.
11:39Detective Brandon Poor confronts one of his own, Deputy Sheriff Donald Daynert.
11:44Do you have any idea why we would be here at your house this early with a search warrant?
11:49That's why I kept asking you.
11:50Okay.
11:51My belief is Daynert knows why we're there, but he doesn't know how much we know.
11:57What's your primary method for talking to folks on the Internet besides adult friends?
12:01Talking to folks?
12:02Yes, sir.
12:05Y'all are going to know anything anyway.
12:09IRC Chat, I forget what it's called.
12:11Okay.
12:12And what screen names, user names do you use on that?
12:15Love Jean.
12:16Spell that for me.
12:17L-O-V-E-S-Y-N-G.
12:19Daynert opens up to us quite a bit.
12:22He was a lot more forthright than I expected him to be.
12:27What did you talk with Laura on IRC about?
12:31Well, I mean, you've got all the, you know, I'm sure the screen shots or whatever and stuff like that,
12:40you know.
12:40And at this point, I'm probably assuming that it was, you know, one of y'all, not somebody that y
12:46'all are investigating or whatever.
12:48He's saying right there, he thinks it was one of us or maybe even me, and I'm not going to
12:53let him know it was.
12:55It was all fantasy, so I'm not going to act on any of it.
12:58When you say fantasy, what do you mean by that?
13:01Like, what were your...
13:02It was just sexual fantasies, sexual gratification, sexual fantasies.
13:06Okay.
13:06So you were fantasizing about sex with her children?
13:10Her and her kids or, you know, or whatever.
13:12I mean, it was just...
13:13How old were the children that you were fantasizing about?
13:16I don't remember how she said they were.
13:18Okay.
13:18I mean, I don't remember.
13:20If I told you that she said they were 5 and 11?
13:24Could be.
13:25But, you know, like I said, people change the stories and change things.
13:31I think that he's thinking, if this weren't a real person with real kids, then it's not even that big
13:38of a deal.
13:40You know, some of the horrible things that he said and that he planned to do.
13:44If you read through the communications, there's no indication that this was anything other than something he wanted to act
13:52out.
13:52Is there going to be anything on a laptop, cell phone, computer, or anything in the house involving any sort
13:59of child pornography, child erotica, child exploitation material of any sort?
14:04I viewed stuff on the one laptop that's in the bedroom.
14:09Is there any other place other than that laptop where you've ever put any of those images, videos, files, any
14:18USBs, hard drives, anything like that, if we were to run one of our dogs around searching for...
14:24I had a USB.
14:26I think that particular one was erased a long time ago.
14:29If there was any doubt about how real this is in his life, he's now admitted to viewing child sex
14:37abuse material on his laptop and moving it to a thumb drive.
14:42The fact that we're now going to find CSAM in the home on more than one device means that it's
14:48additional charges and additional crimes that we have to investigate as well.
14:54Life's over at this point anyway, so why?
14:56Why do you say that?
15:00Look, I'm, you know, just like you said before, I'm in this business.
15:04We both know.
15:06This is it for me.
15:11I mean, I know these guys.
15:13The guy just walked out.
15:14I went through the academy with him.
15:15Right.
15:18My reputation is completely destroyed.
15:22I don't view Daynor any differently than any of my other child predators.
15:26The fact that Daynor was a police officer just meant that he was a predator that flew under the radar
15:32until we could catch him.
15:33Brandon did a great job and he's able to get information from Daynor that he had a USB device that
15:40had child sex abuse material on it.
15:42A recovery of that device and a further examination of that device revealed a thousand plus images of child sex
15:49abuse material.
15:50I'm sorry.
15:51By taking the oath that I took and wearing the badge that I wear, I have disrespected you than anybody
15:58else that wears a badge.
16:06What we know about people who prey on kids is they're the teachers and the pastors and the doctors and
16:14the farmers and the plumbers and everyone else around you that looks just like anyone else to you.
16:20It's 2009. Detectives join forces to stop a predator who's exposing himself to a child.
16:27He's transmitting webcam. He's panning up. Show his face.
16:32You can't make this stuff up, right? These guys are so pathetic.
16:36I might have said I was going to, but I was never going to do it.
16:42Every once in a while we find an offender that's so twisted it shocks even a seasoned veteran like me.
16:47This guy, Michael Van Meter, sent a boatload of child sex abuse material to what he thought was a 13
16:53-year-old girl.
16:54We had to coordinate to get this guy caught with his pants down, literally.
17:07I got a phone call from Lieutenant Gary Marcus.
17:10He was a friend and colleague on the ICAC task force in a different county in North Texas.
17:15He was kind of in a bit of a panic because he's like,
17:18Hey, man, I'm online in an undercover capacity talking to this suspect that lives in your city and I need
17:23you to check it out.
17:28In 2009, Yahoo was a big kid on the block.
17:32They had numerous chat rooms.
17:34There could be tens of thousands of people in these chat rooms.
17:39I was actually going into these chat rooms looking for individuals that search for underage children to have sex with.
17:47Gary tells me he created this profile, Texas Girl 13.
17:51He was a 13-year-old female.
17:53And he tells me that he got contacted right away by a user named MV57.
18:00MV57 wanted to know my age, sex, and location.
18:04And I told him I was 13, female, and I lived in Texas.
18:10He didn't even blink at the age of 13.
18:19My undercover name is Alexis.
18:23Nice to meet you, Mike.
18:25The next communication is,
18:28You ever been with an older man?
18:32I replied, I'm still a virgin.
18:36His end goal is for Alexis to start trusting him.
18:40Like, really creepy predator behavior, right?
18:43But it gets worse.
18:45Within minutes, this same user, MV57, began to send me images of child sexual abuse material, or CSAM, as we
18:53refer to it.
18:55You know, typically in these investigations, I get a picture of their junk that they want to show off to
18:59a young girl.
19:00But this is like taking a 2x4 to the head. This is some hardcore child pornography.
19:06That's a felony to share or send child sexual abuse material to another person.
19:11It pisses me off, the fact that this guy is willing to go and share horrible material with what he
19:18thinks is a real kid.
19:19The rapid nature in which this happened is really concerning, was really concerning for Gary.
19:23We don't know who he is, and at the end of the day, he could be doing something to a
19:27real kid.
19:28I need to identify him quickly.
19:37Lieutenant Marcus is communicating with a determined online predator called MV57.
19:43A few weeks into the chat, he receives a friend request.
19:48Oh, wow. That took his display name off and his first and last name is visible.
19:53That's his freaking name, Michael Van Meter.
19:59It's a surreal moment because you're thinking, how dumb can you be?
20:03Like, you are out here doing this crime, you're doing things and soliciting a child for sexual purposes,
20:08yet you're dumb enough to put your real name on your profile information.
20:15And then Michael Van Meter began transmitting live webcam feed.
20:21This feed began in his genitals and then moved up to his face.
20:28Then I took a screenshot of his face.
20:33Just goes to show you these guys are not the brightest bulbs in the box.
20:38We have a picture of him. We have his name.
20:41Now we can determine who he is and where he's at.
20:45A search on the police database reveals that Van Meter lives within Tony's jurisdiction.
20:53When Lieutenant Marcus calls me to tell me about this predator, Michael Van Meter, who lives in my city,
20:58that's a real concern for me because this guy is talking about the things he's talking about
21:02and sharing that material, I move right away to start working on that.
21:10As Gary and I discuss a way to get Van Meter out into the open to get him arrested,
21:15he throws a curveball that really floors us and it kind of changes the course of everything that we do.
21:22I get a message and the message says, it's my birthday on Monday.
21:26I hope to obtain a great birthday present.
21:29And I respond, what would it be?
21:32Van Meter replies, seeing my 12 and 14 year old neighbor kids naked.
21:42When he says, hey, it's my birthday weekend and I might have access or availability to a real kid
21:47and see some kids naked as like a birthday present kind of a thing.
21:51I'm like, I'm going to put eyes on this guy, I'm going to put eyes on his house
21:55and I'm going to get a team of people together to make sure that doesn't happen.
22:00Tony and Lieutenant Marcus devise a plan to snare Michael Van Meter.
22:04Gary, if he's on the computer with Van Meter, while we're setting up to do the arrest warrant and search
22:10warrant,
22:10the chances of him being able to access a kid are minimized.
22:15So this is kind of a dual plan that we have in place.
22:18It's not going to be simple, but we're going to make it happen.
22:26August 7th, 2009, this is Detective Godwin.
22:29It is 533, 533 PM.
22:33I'm sitting outside the Target house for this gentleman right here, Michael Van Meter.
22:39As I'm sitting here, I'm in contact also with Gary Marcus.
22:42The reality is, I've got to keep eyes on this place while all the other moving parts are happening.
22:47As soon as that warrant is signed, we're going to hit the house.
22:51I get the team to do a perimeter around the house.
22:54And we have some radio chatter going back and forth and I have a teammate that tells me,
22:58hey, I can see through a window and I can see Van Meter sitting in a computer.
23:04I'm communicating with Van Meter in chat messenger.
23:08He actually starts transmitting video footage.
23:12So I call Tony and I tell him he has no idea that y'all are outside.
23:18Let's go, go, go.
23:22We're at the front of the residence and I'm banging on the door.
23:25Police, police, search warrant, open the door, open the door.
23:28The door gets opened and I'm greeted by what I believe is the roommate.
23:31I talk to Tony and say, you know, this is what he's doing.
23:34He's masturbating on webcam.
23:35I send two guys immediately down the hall.
23:38They beeline straight for Van Meter's door.
23:40They push right through.
23:43And guess what they see?
23:44There he is in all his glory, pants and underwear down around his ankle.
23:48He's in full bloom, just masturbating away.
23:53You can't make this stuff up, right?
23:55These guys are so pathetic.
23:57They're such deviants.
23:59I'm walking into the room and I'm on the phone with Gary Marcus.
24:03And so I take my badge off and I just kind of zoom it up into the webcam on the
24:07computer.
24:10What a nice finish to see this guy finally into custody, bagged and tagged and he's not hurting a real
24:16kid.
24:21Detective Godwin's team searches the home of child predator Michael Van Meter following his arrest.
24:27There's loads of child sex abuse material and he's got a map that's laid out.
24:32And on that map, he's got an area that's designated right where Gary Marcus' undercover profile is, Alexis.
24:40And that's really indicative of what this guy's real intent was.
24:44He's now mapping out a drive to go to this location, which is a couple hours away, to have a
24:51sexual encounter with what he believed to be a child.
24:57Van Meter agrees to have an interview without a lawyer present.
25:00I love the interview process.
25:03I don't care that I haven't eaten, that I haven't slept, that I've been up for hours.
25:07It doesn't make any difference.
25:09Why do you think you're down here today?
25:11I don't know.
25:12You look up.
25:13What do you mean you're up?
25:14I was on the internet.
25:16What were you doing on the internet?
25:19Just chatting.
25:21He's got his head in his hand.
25:23Like, he's so broken.
25:25In my mind, I'm thinking this is right where I want him to be.
25:28Because this is the best case scenario for me to get this guy to confess to everything.
25:33Did Texas Girl 13 explain to you that she was 13 years old?
25:38No.
25:39And when she told you she was 13, did you continue to talk to her?
25:42Yes.
25:43What did you guys talk about?
25:45Stupid things.
25:47Stupid things.
25:48She wanted me to meet her.
25:51You were preparing to do that?
25:53No, I wasn't. I was never going to do that.
25:56Michael.
25:56I wasn't. I was not going to meet her.
25:59Now, I fully believe that you intended to do that.
26:03No, I wouldn't.
26:04I might have said I was going to do it, but I was never going to intend to do that.
26:09I had said that, but I was never going to do it.
26:12He says, no, I was never going to go meet that child.
26:15Dude, hit me a break.
26:17We found a map to her location at your place.
26:20Michael, listen to me.
26:22I've seen some of the images that you sent her.
26:25I've seen some of the videos that you sent her.
26:28How would you describe those images, Michael?
26:31Stick.
26:32Other than stick, how would you describe them?
26:36Stickers.
26:37What were the images of?
26:39Young kids.
26:41Young kids.
26:42Pre-pubescent kids?
26:44What were the ages of those kids that you sent images of?
26:48If you had to guess.
26:50Eight, nine.
26:51Do you have a liking for seeing naked children that have not reached puberty?
26:57Not really. I don't even know why I put a lot in here.
27:01Why?
27:02Well, yeah, a little, all right, but a little.
27:05This guy is so creepy.
27:08The type of material that he sent and forwarded to this child is so disturbing, so unnerving.
27:16It would shock the conscience of the American public if they actually had to see something like that.
27:20It's the most deplorable, disgusting stuff on the planet.
27:29The takeaway for me on this Van Meter case is he shared child sex abuse material, horrific stuff, in a
27:36moment's notice, like 10 minutes, within talking to this 13-year-old girl.
27:40So, as a parent, be super vigilant. You'd rather know full well what's going on and where they're going than
27:47being in the dark and letting them get exposed to a predator like Michael Van Meter.
27:52It's 2012. Detective Tony Godwin is in a race against time to stop a predatory lawyer.
27:58I think he might be taking pictures.
28:01He is the creepiest of the creepiest, the worst of the worst.
28:07Never in one year should I imagine this would happen.
28:11You know, once in a while you get a case that just blows your mind.
28:14That is this case for me, Christian Gesicki.
28:17This started out as like an inappropriate conversation with a young girl who was spending the night with his stepdaughter.
28:23And it morphed into something that was unbelievable, deviant behavior that nobody was really expecting.
28:29This guy, hidden in plain sight.
28:31I'm proud that we were able to get this guy off the street and behind bars.
28:44On July 7th of 2012, I got a phone call from a concerned parent.
28:48She told me that her daughter, a 13-year-old, was spending the night with her best friend Skylar.
28:53And while she was there, her best friend's stepdad had made some very inappropriate conduct and communications with her.
29:00I tell the mom that she needs to bring her daughter, Natasha, into the police station so I can have
29:05a conversation with her.
29:07Natasha is a fake name to protect the identity of the real victim.
29:12Natasha tells me around 2 in the morning, Skylar's stepfather, Christian Gesicki, looked in the room and saw that she
29:18was awake and invited her to just watch TV.
29:21And they started watching Friends.
29:23But then it kind of took a weird turn.
29:26Christian started to ask her very inappropriate questions.
29:31She is freaked out, right?
29:33But that doesn't deter him at all, because what he does next is shocking.
29:36He tries to show her pornography.
29:40She is completely frozen.
29:43She begins to cry.
29:44Christian then suggests, hey, why don't you go take a shower, calm down.
29:48I'm just trying to help you.
29:49She's like, you know what, I think I'm just going to go back in the room.
29:54This is really creepy predator behavior, right?
29:57Natasha tells me she does not wake Skylar up.
30:00She just kind of lays there paralyzed in fear.
30:02She's able to get a couple hours of sleep.
30:04This guy is acting out.
30:06He's on a path to escalate to put his hands on a real kid.
30:09And that is a huge issue for me.
30:13The next step for me is to make sure that his wife and stepdaughter, Skylar, are in a safe place.
30:19So I have to interview them.
30:20And Skylar reveals some information to me that is absolutely mind-blowing and shocking.
30:25It scares me to the point where we are going to move on this guy immediately.
30:32Detective Tony Godwin interviews the mom and daughter who share a home with suspected child predator Christian Gazicki.
30:39Thankfully, I'm able to get Skylar and her mom to the PD about one o'clock.
30:43Get them away from this guy who I now am believing a hundred percent is a predator.
30:48How are you doing today?
30:50Not what you're expecting to be doing today.
30:53Well, hopefully we will make it quick and painless for you.
30:57When Skylar comes in, she's nervous and she's a little scared.
31:01And you can just see that the bottom of their world has dropped out.
31:06Christian, he was just the dad at my house and he was very trustworthy.
31:12Taught us how to protect ourselves and taught us how to look out for ourselves too.
31:16Never in one year, so I imagined this would happen.
31:19What I want to do is try to talk to you to clarify some things.
31:24I have a daughter the same age and so I really connected with her.
31:29And then she tells me a story that blows my mind.
31:32I have this big cabinet thing and I was getting shampoo out of there.
31:37And there was like this black thing, like this big, it was like this thick.
31:41And it was like hot, like warm, like it's been used, like it's like on.
31:47And then there was a green and a red dot, like on the side of it, like right there.
31:53A bunch of things are going through my mind.
31:56I'm thinking back to what Natasha said, that how he's like, oh calm down, you should go take a shower
32:01and calm down.
32:02Now Skyler's telling me about this weird black box that's in the room.
32:06I had a bad feeling that it might have been a camera.
32:11I'm like, this guy is sick.
32:17Hidden cameras for his stepdaughter, wildly inappropriate requests to a 13 year old girl who's spending the night.
32:24He makes me sick to my stomach.
32:27Where is this guy?
32:28Because I need to get him right now.
32:31I'm going to put a surveillance team on his house to start watching him, but I can't afford him to
32:36start deleting evidence.
32:37However, I still need to interview Sarah, Skyler's mom, and figure out her side of things as well.
32:43I know that this is very likely feeling like a new bomb is like landing in your lap.
32:49I understand some of this stuff is obviously very sensitive.
32:54It's very difficult.
32:57She is really, really upset, obviously about what's happened with Natasha, not what's going on with her own daughter.
33:06She lets me know that, you know, her and Christian lived together for several years, but they've only been married
33:11about a year.
33:12I want to try to find a way to have a conversation with his wife and figure out what it
33:19is that sexually turns him on.
33:21I'm building up this pattern of behavior because the best predictor of feature behavior is past behavior.
33:26What about in regards to Christian? Does he have any kind of fetish?
33:32I think he likes taking pictures or seeing pictures of girls naked.
33:40So like a voyeuristic kind of thing or an exhibitionist kind of thing?
33:44Voyeuristic meaning him watching?
33:46Right.
33:47Watching somebody else?
33:49Something like that, yeah.
33:53Sarah's a trooper in this. Like, she gets it and she understands it.
33:56And so she's very candid and clear with me.
33:59I know you said he likes to take pictures and compromising kind of photos.
34:03How about some with like surveillance cameras and, you know?
34:07He has surveillance cameras. I thought he was in the garage in a box.
34:11I mean, he's got tons of, I mean, almost order.
34:17He has tons of cameras. Like, he's always recording. He's got all this different equipment. And in my mind, I'm
34:23like, holy smokes. Like, the lid has come off this can, right?
34:29I talked to Sarah about what Skylar said about this hidden device that she found in the bathroom. And Sarah
34:35pulls out this small, square device.
34:44As soon as I saw it, I knew this is not a camera. This is a decoy. And so that
34:49tells me, oh my gosh. Like, this guy is so paranoid that he switched out the camera for this fake
34:56DVD drive.
34:58Time is really of the essence because where's the camera?
35:01This car was outside. I was like, where is he? That's weird. And then I go in and his computer's
35:07not there.
35:08And I'm like, well, what if he's trying to delete something?
35:11If what was in that bathroom that Skylar described is a camera, I know that it has to probably be
35:17viewed on a laptop,
35:18which means if he's moving evidence or transferring evidence or disposing of evidence, that could be my case.
35:24I'm going to try to get him arrested immediately.
35:27Once I finish the interview with Sarah, like, I'm moving to secure an arrest warrant for Christian.
35:32While I'm waiting to get the warrant signed by the judge, I check in with my surveillance team,
35:35who've been sitting on his house. And then at 3.53 p.m., they tell me they spotted him.
35:41He's coming back out, black shirt, black pants, carrying a bag or something.
35:45He's carrying a bag, which tells me he's maybe trying to get rid of more evidence.
35:49I just don't have the warrant signed yet, so they can't do anything except watch him and follow him if
35:55he leaves.
36:05If they see him do a traffic violation, what that allows them to do is get him stopped, get him
36:11identified, and hold him.
36:12That way he's not getting rid of anything.
36:15It's weird. He went down to Noble. He did not turn down the alley.
36:19Stay with him.
36:21He's driving like a weirdo, like he's doing what we call a heat run.
36:25A heat run is what it is when someone is suspicious the police might be watching him.
36:30This guy's paranoia is through the roof, but he's following all the traffic laws.
36:34Trying to follow this guy.
36:36I'm right behind him, unfortunately.
36:38Cleaning his hands all in the air inside the car. He's agitated bad.
36:42It looks like he's having this meltdown with himself. This guy, he is unhinged.
36:50Tony's team is tailing the vehicle of child predator Christian Gazicki.
36:55We are warrant for him now, signed by the judge.
36:58And I tell them over the radio, it's a go. I've got it.
37:04Side of him. Okay, pulled into a parking spot. Pull into a parking spot. I'm about to confront him.
37:10Two of the four covert guys jump out.
37:17Well, they jump and grab ahold of him. They're getting him cuffed up.
37:21What's your name? Christian. Okay, turn around a little quick for me. Spread your legs for me.
37:25The uniform squad's able to get there, take him and put him in the car, pay him, get him into
37:29custody
37:30before he's able to do anything with that bag that he had.
37:33What's the warrant for? Yeah.
37:35You think you're getting as good as mine right now? I'm sure I'll tell you. Just take it.
37:40He's like, well, what's the warrant for? Come on, dude. Like, you know what the warrant's for.
37:44You've been driving around doing crazy, manic, stupid things for the last half an hour.
37:48You know you're caught.
37:51Once they let me know that he's in custody and he's on his way to the jail, they tell me
37:55that they found a black briefcase.
37:57Inside that black briefcase were two laptops. And so that stuff was seized as evidence and brought back to the
38:02station.
38:07Giziki refuses to speak to Tony without a lawyer.
38:10I'm sick because this is where I wanted this guy. In the room to get him to open up. And
38:16now I can't.
38:18I'm able to get the search warrant for Giziki's residence. I cannot even begin to tell you the staggering amount
38:25of stuff that we found.
38:26Hard drives, computers, laptops, tablets, tons and tons of stuff. But the most telling thing that I found was a
38:33box.
38:34And that box was for a hidden camera that looked very much like what Skyler described as in the bathroom.
38:41Tony reviews the video files recovered from Giziki's electronic devices.
38:53This is a clip of Christian Giziki's bedroom. And then all of a sudden you see Christian Giziki with no
39:01clothes on lean over and look directly at the camera.
39:05Just to check the angle, the view, what can the camera see, what can he see as the camera goes.
39:13We found hidden videos taken of various women who appeared to be adults who, unbeknownst to them, they were being
39:20recorded.
39:21But the biggest, most damaging thing that I found were the hidden videos of Skyler.
39:27This is an image inside Skyler's private bathroom. This is a test run. This is Christian Giziki walking in.
39:35It's motion activated. He wants to know, is it going to come on like it's supposed to?
39:39He flushes the toilet, validates that it's Don, and he turns right out and walks out.
39:45This is the absolute slam dunk that we needed. This is so depraved and so disgusting.
39:51The fact that he's been in this kid's life for eight years and he's reached this level, that is disgusting.
39:57I'm shocked. I'm appalled.
39:59Why did I not have a reason to trust my stepdad, you know?
40:03Especially as a fatherly figure, that should be the number one person that is supposed to protect you.
40:10The forensic specialists that I turned everything over to to examine have come back to me and told me they
40:15found over 4,000 images of suspected child sex abuse material.
40:19In addition, over 162 suspected child pornography videos or child sex abuse material videos.
40:26They got a divorce shortly after, which was relieving, especially for my mom. I mean, do you want to do
40:33that as soon as possible?
40:34Every flag goes off with this guy. Like he is the creepiest of the creepiest, the worst of the worst.
40:40This guy I despise on so many levels. Everything that he represents is exactly why I do this job.
40:53It was definitely a sense of relief when he was sentenced to 20 years.
40:57Natasha and I are still best friends.
41:01I think it was satisfying for all of us.
41:03You could kind of just take a deep breath and just move on, too, from it.
41:09Kind of get the closure that we all needed.
41:14Statistics tell us that over 90% of children who are abused sexually or emotionally are done so by someone
41:20they know and they trust.
41:22This is the case with Christian Gesicki.
41:24Child predators are everywhere. They come from all walks of life.
41:28There are professionals in this arena like me and teams of us all over the country.
41:34This is what we do. This is our playground.
41:38If you're a predator, if you're out there and you're preying on children, guess what?
41:43We're looking for you and we're going to find you.
41:45, I will wait two years later.
41:46Tell us to look a little bit ago for everybody.
41:46I wanted to find you who's serious and cool.
41:46If you see what things are unwitting again and got myself forward to all of this,
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