00:00love this country but at this point I take the 40 grand and move my family bloody anywhere else in
00:05the world. Our next guest has been an extraordinary strong support of this show and this station has
00:12been providing updates from Dubai where she now lives, Isabel Oakeshott. We didn't think we'd get
00:17her today because she spent part of this morning in an underground bunker as more missiles are
00:22being shot into Dubai. I mean you are action woman Isabel aren't you to be fair? Well look I'm not
00:29pretending to be Kate Azee at this point you know this is Dubai everything's still functioning it is
00:35quieter than usual and we were a bit surprised to get that alert this morning but I'm happy to say
00:41we weren't down in the makeshift bunker for very long. Amusingly the delivery drivers that get stuff
00:48to apartments here in no time whatsoever kept zipping through the underground bunker as if still
00:55carrying all names. Amazon's here don't worry about the missiles I'm delivering whatever you want.
01:00I don't know if you don't want to say this but I loved what you said earlier about the kids
01:04do you
01:04not want to say that because this is brilliant? Well I mean they're just a bit blasé about it at
01:10this
01:10point. I mean one of my daughters ordered Weetabix this morning you know you know how the straits of
01:16Hormuz are kind of closed at this point. Kind of closed yeah yeah. There's like a sort of massive
01:21stoppage in the flow of worldly goods but it appears that you can still get a box of Weetabix in
01:28Dubai
01:28delivered to your apartment within 12 minutes of placing the order. How's that for a high functioning
01:35city? I love the fact that you said that two weeks ago or a week ago naturally they were very
01:40scared
01:40now they're like look have we got to go in the bunker? I want to go out today. Massive eye
01:45rolling
01:46massive eye rolling and kind of nothing's gonna happen is it you know? Brilliant. I guess that's
01:53that's human nature isn't it? You get a bit more blasé you start laughing because you've got to laugh
01:58haven't you? I mean I you know I heard your caller earlier saying I'm losing the plot. I mean I
02:03was
02:03last night I just thought this is all so surreal. Can we just have a bit of a laugh about
02:08it? And
02:09yeah we just got to. I'll tell you I'll tell you who's not laughing. Well the international
02:14communities. There's a great bit on the front of the mail this morning. I'd love your response to
02:17this. We can't put a warship to see Isabel. Luxembourg can and they're bloody landlocked.
02:22HMS dragging your feet still in Portsmouth. Trump's not speaking to the Prime Minister.
02:27Britain is is being laughed at and yet the desperately deluded Starmer. Have you seen the clip?
02:33We need to get round the negotiating table. Oh come on. I mean
02:38this is just a completely delusional isn't it? I see it's also on the front page of of the
02:45Telegraph Starmer. US must negotiate with Iran. I mean okay so he thinks that this entire kind of
02:54brink of World War III happened because US didn't think about negotiating with Iran because there
03:01hadn't been years of negotiations with Iran that have failed to stop its murderous quest for nuclear
03:08weapons. What bit of negotiating with mad people doesn't work has Starmer not grasped? These people
03:15aren't lawyers. They're not you know the mad mullahs the ayatollahs are not sitting round tables
03:20examining what's possible under international law and coming to some kind of compromise with the world.
03:27they are busy lobbing missiles at their nearest neighbours people with whom they until recently
03:33were doing healthy business. I couldn't agree more and yet there is this sort of continued belief
03:39amongst him and probably just her and other human rights idiots that that that you know you must go
03:46down that way. We just had Ben Wallace on who was a particularly good defence secretary who argued the
03:50tasks repeatedly with ex-prime ministers that there should be more money spent on defence and I said to him
03:56Isabel and I think you'd agree with this I think it's one of the biggest crimes ever politically and
04:00I'm not talking about Starmer on his own I'm talking about successive Tory governments and the coalition
04:06that they have cut defence spending. I mean we are faced with the realisation you know Britannia ruled the
04:13waves and all that that's a we're we're impotent we're literally impotent if I mean I know people
04:19laugh at me Luxembourg is bloody landlocked Isabel and they've sent a boat and we can't manage it.
04:25I mean the best we seem to be able to manage is Angela Rayner on a canoe you know that
04:30is about it
04:31isn't it? Look I've been covering defence for many years now and defence chiefs have been warning
04:38really in very very serious terms for I mean they've been warning since 2010 when David Cameron
04:46came in and immediately conducted a swinging strategic defence review that decimated our armed forces.
04:53The warnings began then but they really escalated in the last let's say six or seven years.
05:00Defence chiefs have said time and again you know what you might not be keen on any more wars we
05:06we know
05:07you're not we know that population the British population the British people don't want more wars of choice
05:13they are fed up of engagement in foreign theatres of war far and away and seeing British our British brave
05:22personnel coming back in body bags as we did with Afghanistan but we don't get to choose now you know
05:29the
05:29world is a much smaller place than it was in world war ii when countries could just choose to be
05:36neutral
05:36everything is far more interconnected now and we've seen that playing out in real time just in the last
05:43few days as more and more countries are being drawn in willingly unwillingly bravely and voluntarily
05:49like the countries are coming to the rescue because they do actually still have some naval assets
05:55while we sit around with Keir Starmer going yeah we've got this all under control you know i've had
06:01this in in the preparation for months now you know that's why HMS Minnow is still sitting in the port
06:09in
06:09Portsmouth going absolutely nowhere i mean it is just it's humiliating on an epic scale a humiliation
06:17the like of which perhaps we have not had since Suez. It's bloody shambolic i'd like your response as well
06:23i don't
06:23know if you picked up on this because you've been in your bunker but four men uh overnight 1am in
06:28the
06:28morning have been arrested on suspicion of aiding iran's intelligence services by spying on locations
06:33and individuals linked to the jewish community bless them in london the men arrested were an iranian
06:39national and three dual british iranian nationals shortly after 1am the big concern isabel for many
06:45people here you've got your concerns with missiles there but the concern here is sleeper cells will
06:50probably be in the united kingdom because of course anybody can get in and don't get me on
06:55the 40 gram will give me to go home the fact of the matter is there is an increased terror
06:59level do
07:00you do you believe that there's a an attack or or is imminent do you believe that there is concern
07:05to
07:06be had over here from what you know i do actually um and it's really a simple judgment based on
07:13the
07:13number of iranian nationals that we have brought into the uk that we have either that are either in
07:19the uk with asylum seeker status or have become refugees or even have settled status it is thousands
07:27and thousands and thousands and as i've said before most of them will be dissidents most of them hate
07:33the iranian regime we've seen that we i had a researcher at the protest the so-called vigil the candlelit
07:41vigil for the for the ayatollah that was held in manchester on wednesday night and that vigil was
07:48completely i'm glad to say drowned out by hundreds of jubilant anti-regime protesters um that in itself
07:56spoke to just how many iranians there are here um but there was a small group of people at the
08:03candlelit
08:04vigil um very significantly none of them wanted to talk to any of the reporters there you know they
08:11they they appeared to have plenty to hide meanwhile the anti-regime campaigners the ones who were
08:18celebrating what trump has done were vocally warning that those in the uk who are mourning the death of
08:26the ayatollah are potential terrorists that is a stark warning coming from our own iranian community in
08:35the uk um so just to confirm you think an attack on on on uk soil could be imminent i
08:42have no special
08:43knowledge of that i wouldn't want to spread alarm and misinformation but i a nobody sensible knowing
08:51how many iranians have come to our country particularly by small boats by the way they've
08:57broken into our country are now um lying low in the uk what might they be planning if ever there
09:05was a time for them to do something it would be now um final question and i don't want you
09:11to fall
09:11off your chair i'm sure you know this story we finally found out yesterday from shibana mamood the
09:16home secretary of this government that she has a plan to deport illegal migrants not to stop them coming
09:22have you seen this in your bunker failed asylum families to be paid 40 000 pounds tax-free to leave
09:30the uk within seven days so having broken in here isabel having enjoyed all the trappings of you know
09:36a four-star hotel and money and a mobile phone and you can see a dentist and see a doctor
09:42we are going
09:43to shamelessly under this government offer them 40 grand in tax tax-free cash to leave despite the fact
09:50that the hard-working brits that listen to this are on their backsides give me a line for that's
09:55outrageous it is totally grotesque and a scandalous abuse of public funds that is i mean surely that
10:06pushes everything to breaking point how can that even be contemplated as an option instead we should
10:12be sending them packing and hitting them with a bill for everything they've cost us in the time that
10:18they have been leeches off the british state uh great to have you on thank you and i mean that
10:23from the bottom of my heart
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