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00:00On today's show, she says you're a paranoid pain in the backside who's made up the messages and the video.
00:06She's never done anything wrong and this is all in your head because you're a control freak.
00:11Why have you brought me here? Why couldn't you just go yesterday? Why? I'll prove my innocence.
00:16Because I want to prove that I didn't go on a date on the side.
00:18Yes, yes, but Becky, you did just come here.
00:20You've come here. We need to get the result. And you've lied about everything.
00:24Right, more about when I checked your phone, you were logged into my Snapchat sending people pictures of me.
00:31You've brought me on here and lied.
00:33I want to do it. I want to prove that. I didn't do it.
00:35Do what you want to do. I don't want you.
00:40What he's done to my daughter, this quite as soon as a mother, is unforgivable. What do you mean?
00:44Talk to me.
00:45She's paranoid. I mean, she has another relationship. He's there again.
00:49Stops her from having a relationship. She needs to get on. It's Christmas now.
00:52So why are we here? We're doing... He's doing a lie detector.
00:55Because he thinks he's got another chance with her.
00:57And either my dead body is here getting back together.
01:01What, you think your lesbian girlfriend slept with your male housemate?
01:06Yeah.
01:06She's the one who cheated on me, other girl.
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01:34Friends, good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:36Now, my first guest today, Kieran, is here for all-important lie detector results.
01:39This guy says he was left devastated when he discovered that his girlfriend, Rebecca, had
01:43been sending explicit messages...
01:47..pictures and videos to other men online behind his back, and today, he says he's certain she'd be outed as
01:52a liar.
01:53In fact, Kieran goes further and actually calls Rebecca the biggest liar he's ever met, while stating that people shouldn't
01:58be fooled by her cute, innocent looks.
02:00He says she's not what she's dressed up to be.
02:02This guy says he could be facing Christmas alone.
02:05IT'S CHRISTMAS!
02:09If Rebecca fails the test today, it's make or break.
02:12Kieran's on the show, give her a round of applause!
02:13CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:2322-year-old Kieran, big day for you today.
02:26Er, how long, Rebecca, are you with her at the moment?
02:29Yes, I am, yeah.
02:30You're with her?
02:30Yeah.
02:31Right.
02:31Er, you've been in a relationship with her for seven months.
02:34Er, why are we here?
02:35Er, basically...
02:36You need to speak up, mate.
02:37I'm going deaf.
02:37Er, well, what it is was, um, she was on holiday, and, er, she left her laptop.
02:42That's a reason to dump her.
02:43No, well, she left her laptop because my, er, phone was broke, and when I was on the, er, Facebook
02:48on her laptop, er, her Gmail came up.
02:50Oh, slow down.
02:51You were on her Facebook?
02:52No, I was on my Facebook, and Gmail...
02:54On her laptop?
02:55Yeah, her Gmail popped up, and it was, er, Plenty of Fish, the dating website, and she was...
03:01Steve, that's a dating website, isn't it?
03:03Yes, Mr Kyle.
03:05LAUGHTER
03:06So why, it begs the question, would a woman who's been in a relationship with you for seven months be
03:10on a, on a dating website?
03:12What did it say?
03:12Erm, she was arranging, er, meet people, saying, oh, good they looked, saying that she wanted...
03:17..asked another one.
03:19On Snapchat.
03:20Also, she sent, erm, naked pictures?
03:23Yeah.
03:23And videos.
03:24Sending them?
03:25Yeah, on Snapchat.
03:27Doing...
03:27Well, she admitted it all to me, and everyone else.
03:29What were the videos of?
03:31And then, she's come here today, and she's denied it to everyone, which is...
03:35Yes, really.
03:35So, you, you found messages, explicit ones, naked of her body.
03:40LAUGHTER
03:41And she was sending these on Snapchat, er, and, and, and, and you confronted her?
03:48Yeah.
03:49Erm, you say, er, well, what happened when you confronted her? Help me out.
03:52Yeah, she was on holiday, she basically, she denied it, and then she told the truth.
03:56When she said the truth, she admitted it?
03:58Yeah.
03:58She's admitted to you verbally?
04:00Yeah, and she's admitted, even last night in the hotel, every single day, she's admitted
04:03she's done it, but now she's come here, she's playing the victim.
04:06She has retracted it a few times, though, hasn't she?
04:08Yeah.
04:08No, she did it five times, and it wasn't until I was sat with my ex, that, and I was
04:12like, I'm done.
04:14And then she was like, oh, right, okay, I'll tell you the truth.
04:16She says, you're a paranoid pain in the backside, who's made up the messages and the videos,
04:21she's never done anything wrong, and this is all in your head, because you're a control
04:24freak.
04:25No, that's...
04:26I can't believe she's even done this to me.
04:28I really...
04:29I can't...
04:31I really can't believe...
04:38Why are you upset?
04:39Well, do you know what?
04:39If you had seen him black and white...
04:41I asked you a question out there, and you told me I was wrong.
04:43She's retracted this on more than one occasion, hasn't she?
04:46Yeah.
04:46She's admitted it on more than one occasion, and she's retracted it on more than one occasion.
04:50Yeah, and we don't know why I'm here to do that.
04:52So you're angry with her?
04:53Yeah.
04:53Why'd you have sex with her last night, then?
04:55Because I'm a guy.
04:56You get your...
04:57Don't you?
04:59Come on, well.
05:01I do...
05:01Do you love her?
05:02I do, yeah.
05:04What do you think?
05:05Well, what would you think, if you've seen the messages...
05:08You've definitely seen them?
05:09Yeah, with her arranging to meet them.
05:11So why would you stay with somebody that would do that?
05:14Because she told me she didn't, and me being an idiot.
05:16What if she's failed the lie detector?
05:17Let's ask it...
05:18Really?
05:19Seriously.
05:19And what if she...
05:21And lies about the pictures and stuff, it's done.
05:24It's done.
05:25Go on, we're going to do it.
05:38Right, son?
05:39Yeah.
05:41Right, I do understand it's difficult.
05:43You say you've seen them.
05:44She says, and I'll be honest, I'm completely innocent.
05:46I would never dream of cheating on him.
05:49I haven't been using dating websites.
05:51The only person I send dirty photos to is him.
05:54He's seen me before.
05:55This is in his head.
05:57Rebecca's on the Jeremy Kyle Show that way.
06:05Why have you brought me here after admitting it, after knowing you've done it, after everything
06:11you've done?
06:11Why have you done it?
06:12I haven't even seen those messages in work and why.
06:15That's because you've deleted them after you got caught, Rebecca.
06:17So how have you got pictures of them?
06:18It's on your Snapchat.
06:20You've admitted absolutely everything.
06:21And this is your chance to try and turn it around, play the victim.
06:25Have you ever admitted it?
06:27I admitted it because I didn't want to lose him.
06:29So why would you admit to...
06:30Because you...
06:31You...
06:32Why have you brought me here?
06:34Why couldn't you just go yesterday?
06:36Why...
06:36I'll prove my innocence.
06:37Because I want to prove that I didn't go on dating websites.
06:39Yes, you've got Becky.
06:40You did.
06:41How?
06:42Why are you lying?
06:43How are you...
06:43How do I know you're not making it up?
06:45How to...
06:45Because you did it.
06:46I went...
06:47You told me you wouldn't come here and lie.
06:48Did you tell me you wouldn't come here and lie?
06:50Yes, and I'm not lying.
06:52But you are.
06:53He says he saw messages and videos.
06:56Please, can I speak?
06:57How do they know what...
06:58How do they know what car you've got?
06:59Exactly.
06:59How do they know what...
07:00Because you told them, Rebecca.
07:01What tattoo?
07:02Because she got a new tattoo.
07:03Oh yeah, I've got my new tattoo.
07:04But he knows all this about me.
07:05Hold on, can I just ask a question?
07:07Right, listen.
07:08Kieran, wait.
07:09Kieran says, I found these messages.
07:12I saw these videos.
07:14Why are we even here if these messages never existed?
07:16If these messages, why are we even here?
07:18You would have just said go away because I haven't done it.
07:21Did you ever...
07:22So you've admitted to him that you did it and then you've retracted that and said you only admitted
07:27to it because you didn't want to lose him.
07:29No.
07:29Darling, with respect, you look as dodgy as hell to everybody in this room.
07:33I'm walking away and we're done.
07:38Why are you walking away?
07:40Because you've come here.
07:41You've come here.
07:42You've come here.
07:42We need to get the results.
07:43And you've lied about everything you've done.
07:45Right, and what about when I checked your phone, you were logged into my Snapchat sending
07:48people pictures of me?
07:49No, you just figured out.
07:50Yes you were.
07:51And I mentioned it to him and he left it.
07:54Why would you send pictures of her?
07:56Exactly.
07:5630 messages on his phone logged into my Snapchat.
08:00I don't even understand what this means.
08:01You've filled a lot into 28 weeks, haven't you?
08:04Right, so he says he saw them, you say he didn't.
08:07Why would he make it up?
08:08Yeah, why would I?
08:09I don't know.
08:09I've just asked that.
08:11Why would you?
08:12Because it was all there back in your tree.
08:14Right, but when I asked you for the proof, you didn't show me.
08:16Well, you sit down.
08:17No, no.
08:18I need to do this.
08:19I'll be a liar, so we are over.
08:21Where are you going?
08:22Mate, this is ridiculous.
08:24Where are you going?
08:26Oh!
08:26Oh!
08:28Get one of the...
08:29Back in a minute!
08:30Don't go anywhere!
08:31Why sit there?
08:32Why arrange to meet people?
08:34Because I'm not going to let you treat me like this!
08:36So how did you get it?
08:37That guy's...
08:37I don't even know my passwords apart!
08:39Yeah, you...
08:41After everything you've done, and you've...
08:43Since the start of your relationship to care and against sexual contact with her,
08:45she said no.
08:46Why don't you say no?
08:47Tell them the truth.
08:54Have you been accused of cheating?
08:56Do you need to prove your innocence with a lie detector?
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09:34I didn't get any emails from...
09:36Can I...
09:36I tried changing my password.
09:37I'm not technically brilliant.
09:39Did you make any videos or messages?
09:41No, only to him.
09:42Why...
09:43So why sit there?
09:44Why arrange to meet people?
09:45Because I'm not going to let you treat me like this!
09:47Like what?
09:48He's...
09:48He's accusing me that I have done it.
09:51What?
09:51Why'd you have sex with him this morning then, if he's such a pain in the backside?
09:55Because...
09:56He's telling everyone that we've been together!
09:59I woke up with you yesterday and you went,
10:01I know everything I've done, but I didn't go...
10:03You did not break up with me yesterday!
10:05We were still together this morning!
10:06I was leaving you!
10:07This is seven months!
10:08Do you not sound like you've been married for 20 years!
10:11No, can I just say something without you putting it in?
10:13Yesterday morning you went, I'm going to come here, and I went,
10:16But Bex, anyone seeing all the stuff you've said to people would say you're cheating!
10:20But you went, yeah, I might have said it, but I haven't gone and met them!
10:24It's very toxic this, isn't it, for seven months?
10:25That's what I mean!
10:26And I don't know why we can't just be decent and come out and admit we've both made mistakes and
10:30tell the truth!
10:31What mistakes have you made?
10:32I've messaged girls!
10:33I'm openly admitting to that!
10:35But I've been honest about absolutely everything!
10:38Have you told her that before?
10:39Yeah!
10:39Has he?
10:41So have you messaged boys?
10:42No!
10:42So are you!
10:43I haven't!
10:43You're so in denial!
10:45How can he have seen them if you haven't sent them then?
10:48Because apparently I'm deluded and make all this stuff up!
10:51I don't even know if he's seen them!
10:52I haven't seen them!
10:54Why would you make that up?
10:55You haven't met them!
10:55Exactly!
10:56Why would you?
10:56Why would anyone in the right mind would make that up?
11:00No one would!
11:00Have you made these types of videos?
11:03Yes or no?
11:04I watched you and tested you every...
11:05So when I seen Poff on your iPad...
11:06You've never made a video!
11:07So why are we adding guys left?
11:08Because I never used my iPad!
11:10When I went, she came round one day and she had added a guy on Snapchat.
11:13She had added a guy on Snapchat and she went, he added me, I didn't add him.
11:17And when I went on the Poff, that guy was there!
11:19Who she added on Snapchat!
11:21So how did you get that guy...
11:22I don't even know my password for Poff!
11:27You've come on here...
11:28Why don't we do the results?
11:29Because I'm a little bit lost.
11:31Poff!
11:31Chat!
11:32Snapchat!
11:33So you're saying...
11:34She just...
11:35I can't believe you've done it!
11:36You don't care about...
11:36Yeah but this is going to say that she's a lot...
11:38You're saying you didn't even make these up!
11:40I didn't!
11:40Why would he make it up then?
11:42I don't know!
11:43Because you want to make me look like...
11:43Maybe he's paranoid because he's doing it himself!
11:46We asked Rebecca, since the start of your relationship with Kieran,
11:49have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
11:51She said no.
11:51Why did you say no?
11:52I was telling the truth.
11:53Tessa, she was telling the truth, pal.
12:04And since the start of your relationship with Kieran,
12:07have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
12:08She said no.
12:09She was telling the truth.
12:09And since the start of your relationship with Kieran,
12:15have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
12:16She said no.
12:16She was telling the truth throughout the whole text.
12:26I'm just trying to figure out what you're doing.
12:27I'm a little bit frustrated.
12:28I'm sorry, I do...
12:30Sorry.
12:31What, what, what?
12:34Go away, mate.
12:35Me?
12:36Me go away?
12:38Why should I go away?
12:39I'm trying to help you here, mate.
12:40It's not my fault.
12:41Do you know what I don't get?
12:44Listen to me.
12:45She's back.
12:46No, I didn't.
12:47Me and you are done.
12:48Simple, done, finito.
12:50Do you not think if I was arranging to meet people, I would.
12:53Well, I don't know, you're sending pictures all the time.
12:58I'm done with you.
12:59You brought me here and made me look like an idiot.
13:01Why are you so angry?
13:01She's just proven she wasn't doing anything.
13:03All we had to do was come out here and say, with both famous...
13:06She proved she didn't do anything.
13:07Yeah, and she just called me a liar.
13:08Who didn't take a lie to text?
13:09But you've just called me a liar on national TV.
13:12Why would you...
13:12I didn't arrange to meet anyone, and I didn't arrange to go...
13:15You are guilty about the fact that she hasn't done anything.
13:18Guilty about the fact...
13:19Mate, I would have been over the moon,
13:20but she sent messages that when we got together,
13:23she was like, we're ten people.
13:24And she's seen on the...
13:25I haven't even seen these messages.
13:27So why did you make them up?
13:29Why would I make them up?
13:31Why would he make them up?
13:32I don't know.
13:32Why would you admit to it?
13:35Because I didn't want to lose it.
13:37You've lost him now.
13:38Yeah.
13:39And I'm being serious, Bex.
13:41Totally, not only.
13:42Done.
13:42So, can I get this right?
13:43Right, you say you found messages in explicit videos,
13:46she confronted her, and eventually she admitted it.
13:49She's now come here having retracted it...
13:51Again.
13:51...and proven that she didn't.
13:52Again.
13:52So why the hell, you silly girl, with respect,
13:54would you admit it?
13:56Because I was stupid.
13:57She was stupid.
13:58I know, yeah.
13:59I know it is.
13:59But there's more to this, isn't there?
14:01The reason you're getting angry is you've also messed around,
14:03haven't you?
14:03No, I haven't messed around yet.
14:05When I was on holiday, we were arguing.
14:08I don't understand.
14:09Anyway, there's something that isn't going to be very popular,
14:11the producer, but here's the thing,
14:12and I don't give a damn, actually, because it's my show.
14:14That doesn't prove that you didn't make the video for the messages.
14:16No, I know it doesn't.
14:17No, it doesn't.
14:17And why the hell would this bloke make them up?
14:19I'm not making it all, Bex.
14:20Can I speak?
14:21No, I don't know if it was you that did it,
14:23or if someone asked.
14:24Stop it.
14:24You did not get hacked.
14:25A hacker does not know when you take your breaks,
14:27what car you have, what tire you've just got,
14:30what you had for tea, where you live.
14:31A hacker goes on and hacks you to rob your money.
14:34Do you do it, aren't you?
14:35Proof.
14:37And you're calling it, and all I said was...
14:39So why was my smart?
14:40I've lost it on your phone.
14:41Oh, let me guess.
14:43But the other side is, she didn't do anything,
14:45and you messaged girls and didn't do anything,
14:47so it's exactly the same, isn't it?
14:48But he admitted the other day that he...
14:49Then why don't you admit it?
14:51Yeah, why can't...
14:51I haven't done anything.
14:53You don't want to sit there on national...
14:54Did you...
14:54No, I won't.
14:57Get them up, because you knew you'd sent messages,
14:59you knew you hadn't, and it balances it out.
15:01Did you do that?
15:02Why did I do that?
15:02She didn't even know I'd said...
15:04Why won't you do a lie detector?
15:05Why won't you do a lie detector?
15:07Because she's...
15:08Why?
15:08I finished her yesterday morning and went...
15:10Why don't you come back and do a lie detector and prove to her...
15:13Why should I do anything after this?
15:14I'll tell you what, I'll get this.
15:15What?
15:16Why should I do anything after this?
15:16I think you should do a lie detector proving that you didn't do the messages.
15:19I don't even know why we did one that said that.
15:22Why don't you let her do one saying the messages,
15:25the videos,
15:26and you do one saying we know you sent messages,
15:29did anything happen?
15:29Should we do that?
15:30What do you mean?
15:31Come back tomorrow and do it.
15:32Yeah.
15:33Literally, you've brought me on here and lied.
15:35I want to do it.
15:36I want to prove that I didn't do it.
15:38Do what you want to do.
15:38I don't want you.
15:39You've come on here after I've seen it in black and white,
15:41called me a liar, made me out...
15:43So you don't want to know whether she sent those messages...
15:46She...
15:46How do...
15:47Why do I need to know...
15:47Well, then you're going to be...
15:49Well, the rest of us are slightly confused.
15:50How do I need to know that she sent the messages when I've seen them?
15:53Why do I need to know...
15:54But how do I know you've seen them?
15:55Oh, because you...
15:56Because he said it yet!
15:59Dafty!
16:00This is Christmas, though.
16:01Don't you want to get this sorted?
16:02But there were no messages!
16:04But Bex, yes, there was.
16:07And I'm the most reasonable guy that said,
16:09fair enough, we've both done wrong.
16:10As long as you've not met anyone, there's all right.
16:12And I don't even go on it.
16:13Can I ask you a question?
16:15I'm not good enough for you,
16:16because there's so many other guys that you wanted to...
16:18Oh, you're so hot.
16:19But there wasn't.
16:19But there was.
16:20There wasn't.
16:21And you're a compulsive player.
16:23You don't feel good enough for her?
16:23No, I don't, because...
16:25And why did you send messages to other women?
16:27Why did she do it?
16:28Everyone...
16:29It was at the start, when...
16:30Why are you so insecure?
16:31Been cheated on before?
16:33Yeah.
16:34But I'm not daft.
16:35Come back and prove
16:37that you didn't do anything after those messages.
16:40Get her.
16:40Hear me out.
16:41Even if you walk away,
16:41just come back and prove
16:43that she didn't...
16:44She's...
16:44Why?
16:45She's...
16:45You've had your chance.
16:46Why don't you want to prove it, then?
16:46You see, there you are.
16:47You've had your chance.
16:48Yeah, but she's saying
16:48that you've got something to hide, pal.
16:50Yes, she can say what you...
16:51Would you come back and prove
16:52that you didn't do those messages
16:53and this was in his head?
16:54Will you come back and prove
16:55that actually it wasn't in my head
16:56and I didn't do anything?
16:57I don't know what part of this
16:58you don't understand.
16:59I don't understand any of it.
17:00To prove that I haven't done anything.
17:02Shh, shh, shh, shh, shh.
17:02I've seen their messages.
17:03I don't need to...
17:04She says they don't...
17:05But she...
17:05She was...
17:06Yeah, and just like she said...
17:07You don't want to come back.
17:08When I see that he's done something,
17:10I show him.
17:11I'm like, what is this?
17:12But...
17:12I didn't get shown anything.
17:13I'll go to the police station
17:14to prove my account's been hacked.
17:16Well, I was...
17:17I was...
17:17Sorry, I have to move on.
17:19Is that it for you, then?
17:20Definitely.
17:21Christmas, done.
17:22Done.
17:24Done.
17:25I'm not going to beat you.
17:25Bex, I love you so much.
17:27So why won't you just let me do the test
17:29to prove I didn't do anything?
17:31Because I've seen it
17:32and you're still calling me a liar.
17:34Just because there's everyone else here
17:35and you don't want to look bad.
17:36If I had done it,
17:37I wouldn't do a lie detector.
17:38Yesterday morning, I said,
17:39I just can't do it.
17:40It's too stressful for me.
17:42And what?
17:43And you went, let's ring the show.
17:44No matter...
17:44I might have said I've gone to meet him,
17:46but I've not met him.
17:46Right, I wouldn't ring the show
17:47and embarrass myself.
17:48I have to move on, my friends.
17:50Graham, it's yours.
17:51You don't want to come back.
17:52You're finished with it.
17:53You want to come back.
17:54You don't want to finish with him.
17:55Good luck, Graham.
17:56You're going that way.
17:57You're going that way.
17:58Give him a round of applause.
18:06Right, good luck to them.
18:07My next guest today, Heather,
18:08is here to confront her daughter's ex-partner, Davin,
18:10whom she claims is, frankly,
18:12nothing but a controlling cheat
18:13and a big bully.
18:14She says that Davin
18:15is desperately trying to get back
18:16into a relationship with her daughter
18:18by taking a lie detector.
18:19But Heather says today
18:20she's going to make absolutely damn sure
18:22he spends Christmas alone.
18:24Strong words.
18:25and a mum on a mission.
18:26Heather is on the Jeremy Kyle Show.
18:27That way.
18:37Susan is your daughter.
18:39She's 33.
18:40Davin.
18:41Davin, yeah.
18:42Mm.
18:42Mm, yeah.
18:43Ooh.
18:44First of all, are they together?
18:46No.
18:46Ooh.
18:48How long were they together?
18:49Must have been over five years.
18:51First time you met him,
18:52what did you think?
18:52Nice guy.
18:53Yeah?
18:53Nice guy.
18:54But it changed.
18:55You said in the end,
18:56control freak and a bully.
18:58My daughter had no life
18:59because this git was too busy
19:01texting other women.
19:02Yep.
19:03He would hide his phone.
19:05He calls her to be paranoid.
19:07What he's done to my daughter,
19:08this is quite interesting,
19:09as a mother,
19:10is unforgivable.
19:11What do you mean?
19:11Talk to me.
19:12Well, she's paranoid.
19:13I mean, she has another relationship.
19:15He's there again.
19:16Stops her from having the relationship.
19:18She needs to get on with her.
19:19It's Christmas now.
19:20Is she still in love with him?
19:22No.
19:22I mean, some people watching this would say
19:24she's got to follow her own heart.
19:26Are you breaking up a family at Christmas?
19:28No, she's not in love with him.
19:29No?
19:29No.
19:30So why are we here?
19:31We're doing,
19:31he's doing a lie detector.
19:33Because he thinks he's got another chance with her.
19:35And over my dead body,
19:37he's here getting back together.
19:38Um, I don't want to upset you.
19:39You describe him as a player.
19:41You say he's messed around.
19:42Your daughter,
19:42you say my instincts aren't wrong
19:43and I'm damn well going to leave with her today.
19:45But she's still sleeping with him,
19:47isn't she, love?
19:47No.
19:48You sure about that?
19:49I'm not sure about that.
19:49Have you asked her?
19:51Yes, I have asked her.
19:52What did she say?
19:52She says no.
19:53Strangely,
19:53he says something completely different.
19:55Davin's on the Jeremy Kyle show.
19:56That one.
20:06I first met Susan around six years ago.
20:09Where'd you meet?
20:10Uh,
20:10originally through Facebook
20:11and then at a pub.
20:14Uh,
20:15she was the one that caught my eye.
20:17You're smiling.
20:17She says you're a control freak
20:19and a bully.
20:19Why are you smiling?
20:20I'm not a control freak
20:22or a bully.
20:22Are you still sleeping
20:23with her daughter?
20:24We have been.
20:30Are you going to talk to each other?
20:34When was the last time you slept with her?
20:36Uh,
20:36a few days ago.
20:41Is that right,
20:42Susan?
20:42It was a few weeks ago.
20:44Why are you still sleeping
20:45with somebody
20:45you call a bully
20:46and a freak
20:47and everything else,
20:47my darling?
20:52What's the point?
20:53Your mother's out here
20:54trying to defend you
20:55and stick up for you.
20:56Yeah,
20:57you're doing that,
20:57but you jump into bed with him
20:59and now your mother
21:00hasn't got a leg
21:00to stand on.
21:04You stay there,
21:05Davin.
21:10Your mother's out there
21:11sticking up for her.
21:11You need to talk to her.
21:12You haven't asked her.
21:13I did sleep with her
21:14a few weeks ago.
21:14So what did you tell me?
21:15I did say to her.
21:16You haven't actually asked me
21:18like recently.
21:19You didn't tell her at all.
21:20You're lying completely.
21:21You can tell.
21:21Because I'm not ashamed,
21:23I just feel bad
21:24because I know
21:25how much you don't like him
21:26and...
21:27It slightly blurs the edges.
21:28What have you done to you?
21:29Why do you...
21:30I mean, what?
21:31Well, I'll see it to Mace.
21:34I don't know what to say
21:34to you now.
21:36Well, I've still...
21:37I've sold him.
21:38I still don't want
21:38to get back from him.
21:39I don't...
21:39Well, then stop having
21:40sex with him, then.
21:42Why would you have
21:43sex with somebody?
21:45Part of me wants to
21:46and part of me doesn't want to.
21:47I don't know what I want.
21:49What's he done to you?
21:51You can't get back with him.
21:52What has he done to you?
21:54Help me out.
21:54He wants to get the family
21:55back together for Christmas
21:56with the kids.
21:56He's sitting there
21:57as smug as anything
21:58because he knows full well
21:58your mother's out here
21:59putting her neck on the line
22:00and you dropped her
22:01right in the poop,
22:02haven't you?
22:02What has he done to you?
22:04Well, there's been a lot.
22:05It's cheating,
22:06which I believe...
22:07He's cheated on you?
22:08Well, yeah,
22:09I believe so, yes.
22:10That's what the lie detector...
22:11Tell me what the messages said.
22:12Well, we'd have a room.
22:14Him and my friend
22:15would be in a room
22:16and they'd be on WhatsApp
22:17at the same time
22:18looking at each other
22:20and you can tell
22:21when people are on
22:22lying at the same time
22:23and, um...
22:24So you don't trust him?
22:25No, I've told him that.
22:26I don't trust him at all.
22:27How many kids
22:28have you got with him?
22:28Two.
22:29So to blur this whole thing up,
22:31a man you don't trust
22:32who you think's trying it
22:33on willy-nilly,
22:33that's probably the wrong phrase
22:34but I know what I meant,
22:36a man you moan about
22:38to your mother non-stop,
22:39you think the answer to that
22:40is to jump into bed with him?
22:41No, I don't.
22:42Speak to her, Mum,
22:43because it's still in my head.
22:43I know it's wrong,
22:44but I don't...
22:44Speak to her.
22:45I don't even know what I want.
22:46I know.
22:46He's hit you up.
22:47He's on the phone to me,
22:48crying a hundred words out
22:50with a chair over her head.
22:51Yeah.
22:52We've, uh, been to...
22:53That's just not small-bought violence.
22:55And this is...
22:55I have to point out,
22:56this guy's...
22:57This guy...
22:58There was domestic violence
22:59and this guy did a course,
23:00didn't he?
23:01Which is why he's able
23:01to do the lie, et cetera.
23:02It was some years ago.
23:03This isn't new,
23:04that was four years ago,
23:05wasn't it?
23:06Yeah.
23:06Why are you with a man
23:07that does that?
23:08I don't know.
23:09You keep saying,
23:10I don't know, darling,
23:11but here's me and her
23:12trying to be...
23:13Why don't you just get him,
23:14get your presents
23:15and go and be happy ever after
23:16because we're just
23:17wasting our time, darling.
23:18Even if he fails it,
23:19you're going to come back
23:20to him, aren't you?
23:21Look at the grin
23:22and your...
23:22It's ridiculous.
23:23I'm not grinning
23:23because of that.
23:24What do you want?
23:25Did I say you could come here?
23:26What do you want to say to her?
23:28Why aren't we sorting this out
23:29and why is your mum involved?
23:32Well, I have to have
23:33moral support for Susan.
23:34Well, be moral support
23:35and wait back here
23:36and we'll sort this out.
23:37Don't be like it.
23:39You've just called me a bully
23:40and a control freak.
23:41He was a bully
23:42and a control freak.
23:43He wasn't a bully
23:43and a control freak.
23:44All right, you've done...
23:44And management now.
23:45He was.
23:46Anger management.
23:47You've sorted yourself out a lot.
23:48So if he was
23:49and he did anger management,
23:51right,
23:51and you've then forgiven him
23:53and moved on
23:54and you've got kids with him
23:56and you're still having sex with him,
23:58why are your mother and I
24:00wasting our time?
24:01Because I don't...
24:01Why don't you just go with him
24:03and save us all the pain?
24:04Because I don't even know
24:05what I want.
24:05Because even if he failed,
24:06you'd go,
24:07oh, Davin,
24:07I'll come back to you.
24:08No, I wouldn't.
24:09Three minutes to work
24:10out whether you're brave enough
24:11to face up to the truth or not.
24:12I'm going out there.
24:13Back in a minute.
24:14Get out here, you lot.
24:15Why do you think he's a cheat?
24:17I've got evidence
24:17of him texting people.
24:19People have told me
24:20that he's slept
24:21with other people.
24:22Oh, note from the examiner.
24:23Pin back your logos,
24:24Miss Paranoid.
24:27If you walk away,
24:28you look even more guilty
24:29than you do now,
24:30don't you?
24:31That's right.
24:31You cheated on me,
24:32don't you?
24:33I haven't even cheated on you.
24:34Nothing's even happened
24:35between me and Tom.
24:59I've got children with him,
25:03and what I would like in life
25:04is to have that happy family life,
25:06and part of me thinks
25:07if he has changed and that,
25:08then it's a possibility.
25:09Why do you believe now
25:11that he's a cheat?
25:12I always have,
25:13and I've told him that all the time.
25:14That's why I said
25:15there's no future for us,
25:16because I don't believe a word
25:17that comes out of his mouth.
25:17Come on, speak!
25:19Well,
25:20I've,
25:21well,
25:21sorry,
25:22but I've done everything
25:24to prove
25:24that I'm not cheating.
25:26You know,
25:26I've tried my hardest.
25:28The trouble with this,
25:29is that you're going to hate me,
25:31but you're the problem here,
25:32because you say one thing
25:33to your mother
25:33and one thing
25:34to your ex-boyfriend,
25:35don't you?
25:36You tell him you love him
25:37and you have sex with him.
25:37I don't tell him I love him
25:38at all.
25:39I've told him I don't love him.
25:40Then why are you sleeping with him?
25:42A comfort thing?
25:44It's not like I'm sleeping with him.
25:45It's happened a few,
25:46I don't know.
25:47You told me you want us
25:47to work things out.
25:48I want to have
25:49that family unit
25:50is what I want,
25:51and I've told you
25:52that I don't know why.
25:53You want a family unit
25:53with the man you don't trust?
25:55Well, no, I don't.
25:56Why do you think he's a cheat?
25:58Because there's,
25:59I've got evidence
26:00of him texting people,
26:01people have told me
26:02that he's slept
26:03with other people.
26:04I want honesty.
26:04Have you said different things
26:06to your mother
26:06than you've said to him?
26:07No, I've just,
26:08I did,
26:08I just haven't told her
26:09that I've slept with him recently.
26:11Oh, didn't tell me.
26:12You'd like to be back
26:13with him this Christmas?
26:14No, I don't know.
26:15If he passes this test.
26:16What's the point
26:16in us doing this?
26:17If he passes the test,
26:18there's a chance
26:19to move forward,
26:19and I'm not going to say
26:20bang, I'm going to get
26:21back from straight away.
26:22Don't say bang again.
26:23You said you'd marry me
26:23if I pass the test.
26:24No, I said that there's
26:25issues that need to sort out.
26:26I need to sort my own head out,
26:27because if he passes,
26:28then I've obviously got...
26:29Did you or did you not say,
26:30were you dangling the carrot,
26:31the Christmas carrot?
26:32Yes, it would appear so.
26:33When you said,
26:34I will marry you
26:35if you pass the test.
26:36I said,
26:36I didn't actually say
26:37I would marry you.
26:38You're back-tracking, love.
26:41Come on.
26:41How can you...
26:42You did.
26:43It's more of an
26:44in-conversation thing.
26:45I think that you,
26:47right,
26:47don't know what
26:48you're talking about here.
26:49I don't know what I want,
26:49to be honest with you.
26:50All I know is
26:51that I want to know the truth.
26:53If he passes,
26:54you envisage this Christmas
26:56the family unit back.
26:58Well, no,
26:58because I said
26:59we still need mediation.
27:00How long have you been together
27:01before you split up?
27:02How was it?
27:03About five, six years.
27:04And in that time,
27:04how many times you split up?
27:06Loads of times.
27:07Why?
27:09Why?
27:09Domestic violence,
27:10trust issues.
27:12Sounds great.
27:13No wonder your mum's sat there
27:14and you don't want her
27:14to go anywhere near this bloke.
27:16Nope.
27:17That's it.
27:18You can be part of the family,
27:20you know,
27:20part of his life
27:21because of the girls.
27:22So you're telling me
27:22your whole relationship,
27:23your family unit,
27:24Christmas,
27:25all that, right?
27:25There was good times back then.
27:27It's all on this, yeah?
27:28You're going to pass this,
27:29Mr Dynamic.
27:30This is mainly
27:30for my own
27:31peace of mind as well
27:33to know
27:33if I'm just going crazy
27:34and imagining things.
27:35It's made them look really paranoid.
27:37I'm so paranoid
27:37about everything now
27:38because of all this.
27:41Are you going to pass?
27:42I hope so.
27:46I'm pretty sure you'd know.
27:48I might have missed the point.
27:50How many people
27:50think this man's
27:51going to pass the test?
27:54Oh, no,
27:56from the examiner.
27:57Pin back your lug holes,
27:58Miss Paranoid.
27:59Susan and Davin's
28:00actual relationship
28:01was between 2010
28:02and September 2015.
28:04Happy with that?
28:05Yes,
28:06apart from the breaks.
28:07Davin told the examiner
28:09that in that period of time
28:10on one of their many breaks
28:11he had sex
28:12with another woman.
28:14He also told the examiner
28:15he had sex
28:16with someone else
28:16after they broke up
28:17in 2015,
28:19September.
28:19Yeah,
28:19you knew about those two?
28:21After we broke up
28:22in September, yeah.
28:23So one when you were
28:24on a break
28:25and one just...
28:26She didn't know nothing
28:27about on a break.
28:28I only know about
28:29the one person who...
28:30She didn't know about.
28:31Sorry?
28:32No, she didn't.
28:32But she does now.
28:33What better way to tell her
28:35than on the Jeremy Council.
28:36You were broken up.
28:38We were on a break!
28:39So you were on a break
28:40and you had sex with someone.
28:42Yes.
28:42So on a break, mum.
28:44Fair enough.
28:44We don't have a break.
28:45We were separated for a year.
28:46We wasn't on a break.
28:47So we asked him...
28:49What about the other one?
28:49So we asked him
28:53whilst in a relationship
28:53with Susan
28:54apart from what you've
28:55told the examiner,
28:56have you passionately
28:57kissed anyone else?
28:58Fair enough?
28:59Yeah.
28:59You said no.
29:00Why did you say no?
29:01Because I was turning the throat.
29:02Tess says you're a liar, Davon.
29:06So now we're not wise enough.
29:07No, I'm fine.
29:08It's all right.
29:08Davon will be in my bed tonight.
29:10Get your head out of your backside.
29:11Whilst you're in a relationship
29:12with Susan,
29:13just being honest,
29:15whilst you're in a relationship
29:16with Susan,
29:17apart from what you told
29:18the examiner,
29:19did you have sexual
29:19contact with anyone else?
29:20He said no.
29:21He lied on that question as well.
29:23In fact,
29:24just to make you...
29:25I don't know why
29:25you're looking so smug.
29:26I don't quite know
29:26anybody with sleeping
29:27in the first place.
29:28He failed every single question.
29:32I'm fine.
29:33I knew you were.
29:34Susan.
29:34I knew you were.
29:35Susan.
29:36I knew you were.
29:36The easiest thing...
29:37I'm not paranoid.
29:38I'm not paranoid.
29:40No, you're not paranoid.
29:40The easiest thing
29:41in the world, right?
29:43And I mean this
29:44from the bottom of my heart,
29:45is to stay with somebody
29:46because either you're
29:47too scared of being on your own
29:48or you don't want to believe
29:49what everybody else says.
29:50Your mum,
29:51your dad,
29:51your friends,
29:52your family.
29:53It's definitive, mate.
29:54He ain't any good for you.
29:55And if you go back now...
29:57Do you want to know the truth?
29:58You've only got yourself to blame.
30:00Don't bitch to anybody else.
30:01Right?
30:01Now, you...
30:03Come on.
30:05I'm not ready.
30:06I can tell you what's your...
30:07I might have done another one,
30:08another break.
30:09I know exactly what it is.
30:11What's happening then?
30:13At the end of the day,
30:14he can see his kids
30:15with what's agreed, but...
30:16There would have been
30:17a chance to mediation
30:18and possible...
30:19You phoned the show.
30:20Yeah.
30:21Because you was adamant.
30:22You just said you didn't want to do this.
30:23You submitted your phone to the show.
30:25For her.
30:26To prove to me you wasn't lying.
30:28And you was.
30:29Why don't you just be truthful with the...
30:31I am being truthful.
30:32I haven't cheated.
30:32So how did you fail the test then?
30:33Oh, my God.
30:34I don't know.
30:36You're a player, Davon.
30:37You got found out.
30:38Deal with the truth and be a man.
30:40And that was right.
30:42And do you know why I know he's guilty?
30:48Because he hasn't made any attempt to argue.
30:51I knew I was right.
30:52What are you going to do?
30:54I didn't know he could see his kids,
30:55but I said to him this.
30:56If he was telling the truth,
30:58I'd admit I was paranoid
30:59and there's a possibility of mediation and...
31:01You're not paranoid, darling.
31:02You were right.
31:03I knew I was right.
31:03Your mum says you're leaving with her.
31:05Is that right?
31:06Right.
31:07You're leaving with me.
31:08Yeah, of course.
31:09Of course.
31:10Go on, then.
31:10Leave with your mum.
31:18Her girlfriend, Becky, has in fact been sleeping
31:20with their male housemate.
31:23Jade says she is animals while she's been sleeping.
31:26And Becky has been cheating with the bloke
31:28under the same roof.
31:29Today, Jade states if Becky fails the lie detector test,
31:32she'll have no choice but to end the relationship
31:33and spend Christmas as a single woman.
31:36Make or break, Jade's on the Jeremy Carl Show that way.
31:46I don't know why I say that to people.
31:47You don't look very happy.
31:48You wouldn't be on the Jeremy Carl Show.
31:49I was going to say happy Christmas.
31:50How are you doing?
31:51Fine, thank you.
31:52In a relationship with Becky, how long?
31:54Six months.
31:55Now, you live in a house, the two of you.
31:58But there's a male housemate, Tom.
32:00Friend of yours, friend of hers?
32:01Friend of mine.
32:02He's been my mate for about six years.
32:04He's lived with you from the beginning?
32:06No, he moved in about three months ago.
32:08Tell us how it changed, because you said
32:09the dynamic changed literally overnight.
32:11They flirt with each other.
32:12How?
32:12Yeah, he's a big flirt.
32:13He flirts with me as well as her, though, so...
32:17She gives him more attention now than me.
32:19There was one night specifically you went to bed.
32:23Come on, tell us all, sweetheart.
32:25We were watching a film downstairs.
32:26Tom's moved in mine, so he's on the sofa.
32:29Me and her went to bed,
32:30because there was only five minutes of the film left.
32:33And then I must have fell asleep.
32:35Is that your girlfriend?
32:36Yeah.
32:36She thinks this is funny?
32:37It's not.
32:39Oh, my God.
32:42Nothing happened.
32:43It's in your head.
32:45Yeah, well, I woke up, and she weren't there.
32:47And when I went to see where she was,
32:49she was walking back upstairs.
32:52She might have gone down for a glass of water.
32:54No, she said she was watching the film.
32:55The film would finish.
32:56Well, I was about to say,
32:57why would you finish the film with five minutes to go?
32:59Maybe she nipped downstairs to see what happened at the end.
33:01Yeah, but his story's a lot different to hers.
33:03What do you mean by that?
33:04What did he say?
33:04He said that they were playing on the PlayStation.
33:08Okay, so they played on the PlayStation.
33:10But you think, what, something happened.
33:12What's interesting is,
33:13people come here and they go,
33:14there's a text message,
33:15there's this,
33:16there's proof.
33:16You say,
33:17I looked in her eyes at that moment,
33:18I knew that she's lying.
33:20I know that she's lying.
33:20What, you think your lesbian girlfriend slept with your male housemate?
33:25Yeah.
33:26I can read her like a book.
33:29I know she's lying.
33:30I can tell on her face.
33:32Really?
33:32Mm-hmm.
33:33Um, you say you haven't been,
33:35she says this is ridiculous,
33:36I haven't been with a man for 10 years,
33:38there's no...
33:39Yeah, they can't stand.
33:43What did you say?
33:44Have you ever been with a...
33:45She's the one who cheated on me,
33:46you have a girl.
33:50Sorry, did you?
33:52Yeah.
33:53It's a slightly different story then, isn't it?
33:55I didn't cheat,
33:55I just kissed her and she knew I did.
33:57She was there.
33:58Right, I'm going to leave this to you two.
33:59I'm going to swiftly exit centre stage,
34:01Becky's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
34:10Now, now,
34:11you come out here and you make this accusation
34:13that she's done something with your male housemate
34:15and then you dump in that she cheated on you.
34:18Tell me more.
34:18She's cheated on me with this girl in a house
34:21and you can't deny it because you're dead.
34:23I know.
34:24Well, that rather changes the whole dynamic, doesn't it?
34:27Yeah.
34:28What happened?
34:29It was at the beginning of the relationship.
34:31Yeah, but I was drunk.
34:32Oh, that old chestnut.
34:33I was drunk.
34:34I'd only known each other a couple of days.
34:36What's the truth?
34:37What?
34:37We did, literally, only know each other a couple of days.
34:39You obviously forgave her
34:40because you've been with her for six months.
34:43I only found out the other day.
34:44When?
34:45When was it?
34:47Well, who told you?
34:48A couple of weeks ago.
34:49Who told you?
34:49When we found out we were coming on here,
34:51I asked her to do a lie detector
34:53and then I asked her if she's kissed
34:55and you said no, didn't you?
34:56I do not fancy men.
34:58I do not want to have sex with them.
35:00You make me cringe.
35:05What's wrong with men?
35:06They're horrible.
35:07Why?
35:08They just make me cringe.
35:10Steve?
35:11Hi, Steve.
35:12He's all right.
35:12Come here.
35:14Don't even, don't even, I need to, come here.
35:22Big Steve, ladies and gentlemen.
35:23Give him a round of applause.
35:25I love it.
35:29On a serious note,
35:31anything going on with you and Tom?
35:32Because if it did,
35:33you didn't know that anything was going on.
35:34At the end of the day, right,
35:35Tom's mate,
35:35we play on the PlayStation together.
35:37That is it.
35:38What do you play?
35:38Call of Duty.
35:39Brilliant.
35:40Have you been cheated on in the past?
35:41Yeah.
35:42She says that you've been cheated on in the past
35:43and that is why you constantly do what you do.
35:46Talk to her.
35:47I don't constantly do it at all.
35:50It's only that one time.
35:51It's always in your head, though.
35:53I know what I've seen
35:55and I know what happened.
35:56Nothing happened.
35:57Tell my team before Christmas
35:58you were going to propose to you.
35:59You're the happiest you'd ever been
36:00and this has just absolutely destroyed everything.
36:02We're gaming buddies.
36:04I didn't have time for sex on the sofa.
36:06You didn't have time?
36:07What does that mean?
36:08No.
36:10Sex on the sofa.
36:11She thinks I...
36:14Basically.
36:14My, my French.
36:15Did you?
36:16No.
36:17I don't do men.
36:18They don't do it for me whatsoever.
36:20All right.
36:20I don't do it for me.
36:21Attractive.
36:22Simple as.
36:23So you don't like men at all?
36:24Got a statement from him.
36:25He says,
36:26I'm really angry that Jade is accusing me.
36:28She's paranoid.
36:28She thinks I slept with Becky
36:29which is ridiculous.
36:31I've been Jade's best friend for years.
36:32I wouldn't do this to her.
36:33Becky and I enjoy playing
36:35on the PlayStation together.
36:37I hope this is all sorted
36:39so we can spend Christmas
36:40and be happy.
36:41Yes?
36:42Have you cheated?
36:43No.
36:43But you did.
36:45Maybe your guilt, my darling,
36:47means you're accusing her.
36:48What do you think?
36:49No, she's a new one of these.
36:50No.
36:52How many people,
36:53how many people think Becky
36:55cheated on Jade?
36:56Put your hand in the air.
36:58Nobody.
36:59Two.
37:00And if we sort this out
37:01and everything's good,
37:02are we all right?
37:03Can you forgive her for the kiss?
37:04I already have.
37:06We asked Becky,
37:07have you passionately kissed Tom?
37:08You said no.
37:08No, why did you say no?
37:10The test says you're a liar, love.
37:18Have you had sexual contact with Tom?
37:20This test says,
37:21well, you said no,
37:21this test says you were lying
37:22on that as well.
37:24Why are you looking over there?
37:25Look at me.
37:26Have you had sexual intercourse
37:28with Tom?
37:28Bear in mind,
37:29if you're going to this test
37:29and you lie,
37:30this test says you failed
37:31at every single question.
37:34I'm going to get your girlfriend, mate.
37:37It's not my fault.
37:38You failed.
37:38Why'd you fail?
37:39Come on, let's be honest.
37:40What happened with Tom?
37:41Nothing happened to me and Tom.
37:42Why are you swearing?
37:44Why are you swearing then?
37:45Why did you fail then?
37:47Nothing has happened
37:48between me and Tom.
37:49Then why did you fail?
37:50I haven't.
37:51See?
37:51I knew it.
37:52It does.
37:54She told us that she knew
37:56the minute she saw your face
37:57and she's known it ever since.
37:59I have not had sex with Tom.
38:01I have not kissed Tom.
38:02I have not touched Tom.
38:02Well then why did you fail
38:03the test then?
38:04You can't even stand
38:05to be in the same room
38:06as him anymore
38:07since that night.
38:09So?
38:10So?
38:10You were best mates
38:11all of a sudden?
38:12We weren't best mates at all.
38:13She says that since that moment
38:15there's tension.
38:16You always exit
38:17when he walks into a room.
38:18Jade,
38:19tell her what you told us
38:20about the look on her face
38:21when she came up the stairs.
38:23She thought...
38:24I just knew
38:25you had it written all over your face.
38:26Nothing's gone on
38:27between me and Tom.
38:28Why'd you fail the test then?
38:28How have you caught me, Al?
38:30Of course I see him.
38:35What, so you're not going to fight
38:37for your lady then, yeah?
38:38If you walk away
38:39you look even more guilty
38:40than you do now, don't you?
38:42Which way?
38:42Which way?
38:46You were right then, yeah?
38:48She's gone.
38:50Really?
38:55Is that great?
38:56Let's turn it in.
38:57No.
39:00Did you know
39:01in your heart of her?
39:01Yeah.
39:03I'd have got an instinct.
39:05Thomas,
39:06what are you, mate?
39:07Six years.
39:07I mean,
39:08he failed that.
39:09Absolutely she failed it.
39:10And I think...
39:12Exactly.
39:12Yeah.
39:13Why wouldn't she admit that?
39:15Why wouldn't you come in here
39:16and admit what you've done?
39:17Well, she's meant to be a lesbian
39:18and obviously she isn't.
39:22Come with me.
39:22Come with me.
39:26Come with me, sweetheart.
39:28These people always do this.
39:29They run off like,
39:30you know,
39:30hello, Graeme,
39:31you're walking very slowly.
39:32Right, OK.
39:32That's a go.
39:36Why are you running off?
39:38What?
39:38You failed.
39:40No,
39:40you cheated on me,
39:41don't forget,
39:42but I haven't even cheated on you.
39:43Nothing has even happened
39:44between me and Tom.
39:46Nothing has happened.
39:48Get Tom on here
39:49so he can do a DNA.
39:50It probably didn't come on
39:51because he knew.
39:53Nothing has happened
39:54between me and Tom.
39:54Why did you fail the test then?
39:57Because you're all out of...
40:00Maybe you just can't tell the truth.
40:02You keep running away.
40:03He didn't want to come here
40:04because he knew
40:05that he was going to fail as well,
40:07didn't he?
40:07Why'd you keep running
40:08if you're talking the truth?
40:10You want out of the relationship
40:12because if you do, mate,
40:13she's about to dump you anyway.
40:17What am I supposed to do?
40:20But you know what's really interesting?
40:21All the times we do this
40:22and we get people
40:23and they go,
40:24oh, you know,
40:24that's it.
40:25Listen,
40:25you might choose to go in with her.
40:26You might think it's okay,
40:27but I'm telling you
40:28that many times on this show,
40:30people, like I said,
40:30have something tangible.
40:31You,
40:32you had just in your heart
40:34and soul you knew.
40:35Yeah.
40:35Is it really done?
40:36Yeah.
40:37She's out
40:38and he's out as well.
40:42You sure?
40:43Yeah.
40:44You mean it as well,
40:45don't you?
40:45I've got your kids to think about.
40:46Then I can make you smile.
40:48Why?
40:48Save on the Christmas presents.
40:50Very nice.
40:51Give her a round of applause.
40:52Thank you very much indeed.
40:53Stay early, Graham.
40:56Listen,
40:56that's what people come for,
40:57the trophy.
40:58We wish her the best of luck
40:59and more on this show
41:00after the break.
41:00Don't go anywhere
41:01because we're right back.
41:02Tell me what you know,
41:0344 years,
41:04you've never...
41:05I've never known me dad
41:07before 44 years.
41:09I've tried everything
41:11to find him.
41:12Every Christmas,
41:12I hope you send me a card
41:13every birthday
41:14just to let me know
41:15he was thinking of me.
41:16That never came.
41:18Never came.
41:28Thank you very much indeed.
41:29Welcome back.
41:30The next guest today,
41:30Helen,
41:31is here as she is
41:31desperate to find her father
41:32in time for Christmas,
41:34a time for families
41:35to be together.
41:36She says this daily
41:37for 44 years.
41:38She's always hoped
41:38that one day
41:39she will be reunited with him.
41:40However,
41:41with little information to go off,
41:42she's always reached
41:43a dead end with a search.
41:44Today, she says
41:45this is her last chance
41:46at potentially reaching out
41:47to the man
41:48she has so desperately
41:49wanted to meet.
41:50She's already here.
41:50It's a big day.
41:51Helen's on the Jeremy Kyle Show.
41:53Give her a round of applause.
41:55Hi, Jeremy.
41:56You all right?
41:57Nice to meet you.
42:03Tell me what you know.
42:0544 years.
42:06You've never...
42:07I've never known me dad
42:08for 44 years.
42:10I've always wanted to find him.
42:13I've tried everything
42:14to find him.
42:16I even travelled to his town
42:17to try and find him.
42:19No one knew anything.
42:20I felt so alone.
42:22I felt so lost.
42:22What do you know
42:23about him and you?
42:26All I know
42:27about me dad
42:29is that
42:30he used to work
42:32in the shipyard
42:34building ships.
42:35You've never ever seen him?
42:37Growing up,
42:37you were brought up by somebody
42:38who should say,
42:39every Christmas,
42:39I hope you send me a card
42:40every birthday
42:41just to let me know
42:42he was thinking of me.
42:43That never came.
42:44Never came.
42:45Do you know what worries me
42:46when people come in
42:47to do appeals
42:47and I go,
42:48you know,
42:48okay,
42:49we've got some news,
42:50we haven't got some news.
42:51People expect the dream
42:52and you say,
42:54it is my dream
42:55to have a father figure.
42:56Yes.
42:57What if it,
42:58I mean,
42:58you know,
42:59just think about that.
42:59Everybody else
43:00takes stuff like that
43:00for granted.
43:01What if,
43:01what if that's not possible?
43:03What if he arrives
43:04and into your life one day
43:06and you argue the whole time?
43:08Is it still something
43:09that you feel you need to do?
43:10It's something I need to do.
43:11I want a relationship
43:13with me dad.
43:14At this time of year?
43:15Yeah.
43:16I've always wanted
43:17a relationship with me dad.
43:20Why now at 44?
43:21Why not 10 years ago,
43:2220 years ago?
43:24I've always tried
43:24looking for him.
43:25My team have found him.
43:29Yeah?
43:38You okay?
43:42What does that mean?
43:44It means,
43:45well,
43:45thank you.
43:47Um,
43:48he's the other side
43:49of that door.
43:51You've been looking
43:51for 44 years.
43:53I have to give credit
43:54to the team on the show.
43:55it took them
43:55three days.
43:58APPLAUSE
44:11Never, ever met him.
44:1466 years of age.
44:16He said,
44:17I've waited 44 years
44:19for this day.
44:20I can't believe
44:21you've done this for us.
44:23I'm so glad.
44:24John's on the Jeremy Kyle show
44:25that way.
44:27APPLAUSE
44:52John, welcome to the show.
44:53How are you?
44:54I'll move the chair this way.
44:56I'll move the chair this way.
44:57Makes a change on this show.
44:58Exactly.
45:00I never wanted to be apart
45:02from Helen.
45:02I'm not going to bring it down,
45:05but there has to be
45:06a realism as well.
45:0744 years ago,
45:08you were a different man,
45:09it was a different time.
45:10You were very honest
45:11to my team.
45:11He said,
45:12I was young,
45:12I was dumb,
45:14and I could have done
45:15and should have done
45:15a lot more.
45:16Exactly,
45:16I agree.
45:17I agree.
45:18Why haven't you looked
45:19for her, pal?
45:20I wouldn't have known
45:21where to start.
45:22When you got this call
45:23from the team,
45:24what did that mean?
45:26Absolutely fantastic.
45:27Your whole team's been
45:28fantastic doing this.
45:30Yeah.
45:31That's your daughter, pal.
45:39Helen's always been
45:40in the back of my mind.
45:41I didn't know where to start.
45:42When I knew Helen was looking
45:43for me,
45:44I started to weigh up.
45:45Well up.
45:46The day has finally arrived,
45:47so this is it.
45:48I'm still weighing up.
45:49What do you say
45:49to your daughter?
45:51Oh, yeah,
45:52lovely, pal.
45:54Aww.
45:59Well done.
46:01Christmas,
46:02the best time of the year
46:03for some,
46:05for many,
46:05but not for others,
46:06but you now this Christmas.
46:07I want to do something
46:09really, really special
46:10for you and your entire family.
46:12We are going to pay
46:12for your family
46:13to have the best Christmas.
46:15We're going to organise it
46:16and pay for it.
46:17You'll have all the trimmings
46:18and the decorations
46:19and you'll have
46:19the best, best time.
46:21Lovely, lovely Christmas meal.
46:24It's really nice to see you.
46:25What a lovely way
46:26to earn them out of time.
46:27If you want to be on this show,
46:28you need my help.
46:28Visit the website.
46:29The details is ever on screen.
46:31To the guests,
46:31to the audience
46:31and to your home,
46:32and thanks for watching.
46:33Christmas is coming.
46:34See you soon.
46:35Bye-bye for now.
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