00:00How about the drills, the numbers, the 40-time?
00:03It feels like, let's start with the 40-time.
00:05I'm going to get you on three-cone and short-shuttle.
00:08Do some teams value some drills and then dismiss others?
00:14I'd imagine you've got 32 different teams.
00:16Do you have 32 different evaluations of the drills themselves?
00:21Yeah, I think there's certainly ones you value more than others.
00:24Every team will have specific ones.
00:26You're right.
00:26But I will tell you this.
00:28I loved it.
00:29I love getting the numbers.
00:31You hear the cliche, part of the puzzle, the tools.
00:34That is true.
00:35It's how we got Matt Milano.
00:37He tested off the charts.
00:39He hit every kind of checkmark for his position that starts in the NFL.
00:43And that's when I see that as a GM or a director of personnel.
00:47You're saying, hey, hold on.
00:49This guy hits every checkmark physically.
00:51Let's look at this tape a little more.
00:53I know he's undersized, but hey.
00:55And that's what the combine can do for players.
00:58Yeah.
00:58You know, thinking about a guy like Milano or someone like that, you know, as you're watching
01:04these guys, it sounds like, you know, analytics has been a buzz phrase, obviously, the last
01:09like decade plus.
01:10But that's what this is digging into is body types and hitting benchmarks.
01:15And how specific could a team's benchmark be?
01:18Like, let's Ruben Bain is a good one here.
01:20I saw he's under 31 inches for his arms.
01:24And no player has been taken in the first round with arms that short in 20 years.
01:29And no player has double digit sacks with arms that short in 20 years.
01:33Would a team be so married to the idea that guys of a certain build just don't produce that
01:41they would fade a player significantly on like one inch difference in their arms?
01:46That would be shocking to me.
01:48Yes.
01:49I would say this.
01:50Teams, when I say I would be shocked if he is this good of a player, there is no way
01:54that
01:54should prevent a team from taking him if they feel he is worthy of top 10.
01:58You can't let, like you said, whatever that arm-leg discrepancy is.
02:04I promise you, if you get 10 measurements, you'll get 10 different ones.
02:08So, if you're real, if you're smart, if you're a scout, you might want to fudge that one and
02:13say, hey, I remeasured him.
02:15It looks good.
02:16We can draft him.
02:17I mean, not really.
02:18It's ridiculous.
02:19If he's that good of a player on tape, that arm length shouldn't matter.
02:23Now, you don't want to be a team of, you don't want to take too many exceptions.
02:27I mean, slow, you know, slow is slow.
02:29So, don't, you know, you don't want to take, Anquan Boldenville is the example we use
02:33at receiver, a guy that didn't run well, and his tape was outstanding.
02:37But you don't want to make it, you know, you're not going to always get Bolden.
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