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Former Prince Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor was arrested in London on Thursday on suspicion of misconduct in public office linked to the Jeffrey Epstein files.
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00:00Good evening, hello and welcome. You're with the news today. This is your primetime destination news, newsmakers, talking points, news
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00:09Let's tell you what's the big talking point tonight. It is a royal earthquake. Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor has been arrested.
00:18That's right, the former prince and member of the royal family of Britain, named in the Epstein files, now arrested
00:23for misconduct.
00:25The British royal family is under scrutiny like never before. Also, Prime Minister Narendra Modi unveils his vision for AI,
00:35the acronym MANAV or Humanity.
00:38But will AI actually result in the Prime Minister's vision being translated into reality? That's the question we'll raise.
00:47But as always, first, it's time for the Nine Headlines at Nine.
00:53Amidst the heat over the Jeffrey Epstein files, Prince Andrew becomes the first UK royal to be arrested for misconduct
01:02in public office.
01:04Prince Charles assures full cooperation. Prime Minister Starmer says no one is above the law.
01:14Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates pulls out of India's AI summit amidst the Epstein files row.
01:21Gates Foundation says decision made after careful consideration.
01:28Prime Minister Modi calls for a roadmap on responsible AI at the AI summit in New Delhi.
01:34Also emphasises AI's sovereignty for national security and public good. World leaders endorse it.
01:44In an exclusive conversation with India today, French President Emmanuel Macron hails making India Rafales, claims Rafales will make India
01:52a stronger military power.
01:56A thaw in India, Bangladesh ties India to restore all visa services to Dhaka soon.
02:04Dhaka also moves to repair strained cricket ties with India after the T20 World Cup fallout.
02:13Amidst the ongoing power-sharing tussle between DMK and Congress ahead of Assembly elections, Vijay's TVK says they are in
02:21talks with the National Party, will announce their poll plans for Tamil Nadu soon.
02:28Supreme Court sharply criticises states for announcing irresponsible freebies ahead of elections.
02:35The court questions the timing and fiscal logic of such decisions.
02:48Kerala chief minister, Vijay also lashes out, calls it a poisonous creation.
02:54And Zimbabwe ends the group stage of the T20 World Cup as their giant killers beat co-host Sri Lanka
03:03after having knocked out Australia to top their group.
03:21But tonight's top story, the disgraced royal, the former Prince Andrew, brother of King Charles III, is feeling the Epstein
03:30heat.
03:31The prince has been, the former Prince Andrew has been arrested amidst the Epstein scandal.
03:37He is now the first royal to be arrested for public misconduct and who accused of having abused his public
03:47office in alleged emails that he exchanged with Epstein
03:52and his involvement with the former, the late sexual offender, a man whose name has now sent shockwaves across the
04:02world for the manner in which his pedophilia and sexual offenses have exposed a network of the rich and powerful.
04:10King Charles, King Charles, under pressure, has vowed full support and cooperation.
04:15The British Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, has said no one is above the law.
04:20But as of now, Prince Andrew, facing the heat like no other British royal ever has.
04:26Joining me now, James Marlowe, broadcast journalist, joins me live from London.
04:31Also joined by Ashish Ray, author and senior journalist.
04:35I appreciate you joining us there, Mr. Marlowe.
04:38How is this playing out?
04:39Is this the biggest crisis in a way that the royal family has faced?
04:44A real loss of credibility and face?
04:49In 1647, so that's certainly before my time, when King Charles I was arrested.
04:59And before that, it was Elizabeth who had her sister Mary arrested.
05:04And that was way back in 1554.
05:09So now we're dealing with something brand new in 2026, Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor.
05:15And it's a huge, astonishing fall from grace.
05:19He was arrested just after 8 a.m. local time here in London on the Sandringham Estate,
05:25which is just west of the city of London.
05:29Police came to his property, or at least the property that King Charles has given him temporarily,
05:37because, of course, he was stripped of all of his different ranks and different titles
05:43and even of his property.
05:45He was taken away by police.
05:47He was given a chair.
05:50He was given access to a toilet.
05:52His fingerprints were taken.
05:54And as we understand, he is still being questioned right now by police.
06:00Police have 24 hours by law to hold him, ask him questions,
06:07continue their investigation, and if they do not come up with anything to charge him with,
06:14then they have to let him go.
06:15If, however, the police feel that they are close to getting some type of evidence from him,
06:23they can request an extra four days.
06:27I just want to bring in also Ashish Ray at this point,
06:30because Ashish, this has been playing in the public domain in Britain and across the world for a long time.
06:36Prince Andrew's already been stripped of his royal title and some of his royal entitlements.
06:43Why now?
06:44What has happened suddenly?
06:45Now there's talk.
06:46The misconduct charge was there for the longest time.
06:49Now it's being spoken of in a way that has led to his arrest.
06:53What has suddenly changed?
06:56Well, you're right, Rajdeep, that it's been a long time coming,
07:01because the story first broke in 2010.
07:04And thereafter, there have been many allegations.
07:07There have been stories floating around.
07:10And at the end of the day, what has happened is this.
07:14This is not so much a sex story.
07:17It is about Mountbatten, Windsor, sharing sensitive information with Geoffrey Epstein,
07:28because he was, don't forget, an ambassador for trade for Britain for a number of years.
07:35And in that capacity, he had confidential information.
07:40And therefore, this misconduct in public office is what this allegation, or at least suspicion at this moment, is all
07:50about.
07:51He can be held for up to 96 hours, by the way.
07:54But that would need permission from a magistrate for that to happen.
08:00It's a remarkable story for the brother of the head of state of Britain, of the monarch of Britain,
08:06to be arrested in this manner without the king being informed about it.
08:12It shows that the rule of law can be supreme.
08:17I'm going to come to that point in a moment, Ashish, in the Indian context.
08:20But Mr. Marlowe, what is the general reaction you're finding among the public?
08:25Is the public fully supportive of the fact that a member of the royal family is not above the law?
08:31And therefore, in a strange way, it might even restore some of the lost credibility of the royal family.
08:38Absolutely. Let me just clarify what it was I just said as well.
08:40And that is that police are holding him for 24 hours without any magistrates.
08:45If they do need to continue speaking with him, that's when they apply for the extra four days.
08:50In terms of the British reaction, indeed, the international reaction, I think people are still getting around it.
08:57And the United States people have been waking up on the East Coast, Mid Coast, West Coast as well, to
09:04this astonishing information.
09:06And they will also be looking to put the boot in as such to see what it is that they
09:12can do.
09:13Yes. To answer your question, it does prove that nobody is above the law except one person.
09:18There is just one person in the UK that is above the law who cannot be prosecuted.
09:23And that is the king. So when you have something like the Crown Prosecution Service that actually brings cases in
09:31a court of law with lawyers, etc., bringing them against a defendant,
09:36that is the crown in the name of the king, which is Prince Charles.
09:41So what inevitably you may have, depending upon what unfolds in the coming days and weeks, is that the king,
09:50the crown will actually, according to the Crown Prosecution Service,
09:56let me get this right, would be actually prosecuting his own brother, who, by the way, is 66 years old
10:04today, who was born in Buckingham Palace.
10:06He was born being able, with all that privilege and that ability, surrounded by royalty, to end up in a
10:15police cell with just access to a toilet and a chair right now.
10:21Fascinating. But, you know, Ashish, the point you made, no one is above the law.
10:25Here is the king's brother being arrested, belatedly, some would say, but arrested nevertheless.
10:30And as I put out, various names across the world have lost their jobs or been forced out of jobs
10:36because of their involvement, alleged involvement, with Jeffrey Epstein and the sexual offences that were conducted.
10:43In India, on the other hand, we've seen a veil of silence.
10:46A couple of names have been mentioned for having email exchanges with Jeffrey Epstein, Hardee Puri, the union minister, Ani
10:55Lambani, the businessman.
10:56But obviously, no proof of misconduct in terms of the fact that they were not in public office in the
11:03manner that Andrew was.
11:04But do you believe it's time to rip off this veil of silence anywhere in the world?
11:09And remember, there are a number of unredacted files that are still not out that run into thousands and millions
11:14of pages.
11:16Well, first of all, let me say this, that Jeffrey Epstein was bad news.
11:21He was not just corrupt, he was not just dealing with underaged women, but he was possibly dabbling with intelligence
11:32services.
11:33Now, I don't know Ani Lambani, I've never met him, but I've known Hardee Puri for many, many years.
11:41And I must say, I'm very disappointed because he belongs to the elite Indian foreign service.
11:48He could do better because his judgment is certainly being called into question today.
11:56I expect better, Hardee Puri, because he has been a fine diplomat during his career, controversial at certain times, though.
12:06But nevertheless, he belongs to the elite service and he could do the right thing by setting a good example.
12:14Okay, I've heard both of you and I think we've heard you both loud and clear.
12:18Today, in many ways, is a historic day when someone who is right at the very top or was right
12:24at the very top of the royal family should be arrested on his birthday in this manner.
12:28Mr. Marlowe, Ashish Ray, for joining me here tonight at the top of the news, thank you very much.
12:34I want to go to a very special guest because the Epstein case involves dozens and dozens of young women
12:40who allegedly were the victims of what Jeffrey Epstein did through at his exotic island and the sexual offenses and
12:50pedophilia charges that eventually led to his conviction.
12:54I'm joined there by Rina Ove from New York.
12:56Rina, you are a survivor of Jeffrey Epstein and his sexual wrongdoings.
13:02I appreciate you joining us.
13:04When you heard the news a little while ago that a member of the British royal family, formerly Prince Andrew,
13:10arrested for his roles in dealing with Jeffrey Epstein, what was your first reaction?
13:16Does it give you a sense of vindication of justice?
13:19Dare I say a little bit of closure?
13:24It didn't give me a sense of closure, but I feel that this is just the beginning.
13:30It sets an example for what should be done here in the United States.
13:35I feel that our government here in the U.S. is not taking any action.
13:40All they're doing is denying accountability.
13:43And to have someone like the former Prince Andrew, you know, get arrested for his ties to this entire case.
13:54And, you know, they're they're alleged that these are allegations, obviously.
13:57But there he is mentioned in those files they've been talking about him.
14:02He's had a longstanding relationship with Epstein.
14:06And I feel that this is one step forward into what I expect to see going forward with everyone else
14:17who's mentioned, you know, whether their names appear or they're redacted.
14:20But I actually want to see all the redacted names get unredacted.
14:25You know, the names that have come out, Rina, is of some of the most, some of the most wealthy
14:33and powerful people in the world, Rina, who have been named in the Epstein files.
14:41And there's been a sense that many of these people, because of the power they wield or their wealth, they've
14:47gotten away too easily.
14:50You use the word accountability.
14:51Do you believe that's critical, that however powerful or wealthy you are, you will have to be held accountable if
14:58you were part of Epstein's network of sexual offenses?
15:02That's the message that's coming out today.
15:07Oh, absolutely.
15:08Anyone who's named in those files needs to be questioned under oath if they haven't provided testimony.
15:17And I feel that there's a big separation of class.
15:21There's a class system here.
15:23And, you know, the privileged, they get away with almost anything and everything.
15:29They have the means to afford the best legal teams.
15:38You know, and they they're able to use every loophole that exists in U.S. law or international law.
15:46Yeah.
15:47And they're able to get away with it.
15:48They get minimum sentencing or slap on the wrist or altogether charges are dropped.
15:53There has been no accountability so far.
15:56I do see there are a lot of European nations who are taking action and they're taking action immediately.
16:04I want to see that here.
16:06So you want to see action in the United States against those who allegedly were involved with Jeffrey Epstein.
16:12But all these names, Rina, who seemingly had this very special relationship with Epstein,
16:19many of them visited this so-called exotic island where these alleged sexual crimes took place.
16:24All of them, in a sense, are enablers of what Epstein was doing.
16:29And if I may ask you, did they, from what you saw as a witness, did they include politicians, royals,
16:35businessmen?
16:36Were they all deeply involved in this operation?
16:39Is that true?
16:40Or were they just bystanders?
16:45I personally didn't meet any of those people.
16:48I have heard some of their names while I was around him.
16:52I've met one of the billionaires that are mentioned in these files.
16:57And he's mentioned a lot, actually.
16:59There are a lot of photographs of him.
17:01Are they enablers?
17:03If they saw something, you know, if they witness it, they are definitely an enabler.
17:10But we need to ask every single person under oath, what did you see?
17:15What did you witness?
17:16Whether they lie or tell the truth.
17:18And then back it up with evidence.
17:22May I ask you this, Rina?
17:24What did you see?
17:25As someone who is a survivor, I want to ask you this.
17:30Because you've spoken out, I've heard your interviews about the psychological manipulation that Epstein was involved in.
17:37Can you tell, for our viewers here in India, the kind of tactics that this person, who seemed to have
17:44this network of rich and powerful around him, using young women,
17:49can you tell us how it affected you and what exactly he would do?
17:57Well, he was a raging narcissist, number one.
18:00And he used different forms of abuse.
18:05It wasn't just physical abuse.
18:06It was psychological, emotional.
18:10You know, there was a lot of devaluation.
18:13And that has a very traumatic effect.
18:18You know, sometimes it takes decades to recover from this.
18:24Because a lot of the other survivors, they share this experience.
18:30I'm not certain if they understand what narcissism or narcissistic personality disorder entails and what it does.
18:38But the abuse, you know, it's very damaging.
18:41And it's very easy to get manipulated and lied to.
18:44Like, this person was a complete psychopath, sociopath, who was able to use everything, you know, in order to lure
18:52people in.
18:53And not just the survivors, but everyone in his network.
18:56You know, they have fallen, you know, I don't want to call them victims.
19:01They've been trapped in this ring that he created.
19:05And whether they committed any crimes or not, you know, that's, it just happened.
19:12And it's part of the nature of dealing with someone who is a narcissist.
19:16If they go down, he wouldn't go down by himself.
19:21Can I ask you this, though?
19:23Donald Trump, United States President, do you believe he, too, has much to answer for?
19:28He, of course, keeps on denying his links with Epstein, says he's been given the all clear.
19:33But the truth is that he seemingly also knew Jeffrey Epstein.
19:37Should he be asked to come on, should he be also put on oath?
19:42As a witness in the Epstein case, to tell the world what exactly he knew and what was his role
19:48or his involvement and how much he knew about what was happening?
19:55Well, he definitely knew a lot.
19:57He definitely saw a lot.
19:58His name appears with every single contact number.
20:02His children's names appear in that phone book.
20:04I think he absolutely is a witness.
20:07Should he testify under oath?
20:10You know, I think he should.
20:12Will he testify under oath?
20:15Yes, probably not.
20:16At least not while he's in office.
20:19You know, perhaps maybe once this term is over, they may be able to subpoena him.
20:24I don't know how the U.S. laws work in regards to subpoenaing a sitting president and having them testify
20:33under oath in front of the oversight committee or a congressional hearing.
20:38You know, Reena, when I asked you at the outset how Andrew and others were involved, they've, of course, denied
20:46the allegations.
20:46But more and more details are coming out about how the former royal may even have shared data with Epstein,
20:54confidential data.
20:55From your perspective, when did you know that Jeffrey Epstein was someone involved in this criminality?
21:03How long did it take you to wake up to the reality of what Jeffrey Epstein was all about?
21:12I would say probably during the trip that I was in Florida when he disclosed certain things and I saw,
21:21you know, the way he lived.
21:24And being trapped in that house with no means, no transportation, no money, and then being threatened with physical harm.
21:34You know, it kept me silent for decades.
21:38You mentioned that you were trapped.
21:41Are you telling me that you were kept inside the house, threatened there in Florida, virtually under lock and key?
21:48Is that what he would do with women?
21:54Well, I wouldn't say virtually under lock and key, but I had no transportation.
21:59I didn't have money.
22:01There was another girl there.
22:03Others were able to freely go in and out of the estate.
22:08I didn't really know where I was.
22:10It was my first time in that part of the country.
22:13So, you know, and then he disclosed some of the things that he did overseas and then threatened me with
22:21physical harm, if I ever told anyone.
22:24But some of the people who've been named Reena in the Epstein files continue to carry on with their public
22:30functions as if nothing all happened, almost as if they did nothing wrong.
22:34Now, these rich and famous travel the world.
22:37Some of them continue to remain in office.
22:39Do you believe, therefore, that the arrest of Andrew must send out the message to each and every one of
22:44them that this is not a normal case?
22:45This is a violation of human rights, of human dignity.
22:49And each and every one of them must be brought to justice for true closure for survivors like you?
22:57Absolutely.
22:58Anyone who's named, who's associated, needs to be investigated or at least given the chance to speak.
23:06There are 10 co-conspirators.
23:08There needs to be a full transparency into what they did.
23:14And in terms of closure, I don't think I'll get closure until we find out what remains of this operation,
23:24because I believe it still exists.
23:27I believe they're still doing it.
23:28I believe he's not the only one who was involved.
23:31I mean, obviously, there are 10 other people.
23:34You know, are they still doing it?
23:36I suspect they are.
23:37But that's another allegation.
23:39And I don't want to say, you know, absolutely, they're doing it.
23:43We need to find out.
23:44We need to investigate them.
23:45You suspect that the sexual offenses committed are still going on with other co-conspirators.
23:53But there's been, as we've seen, pressure in Britain that's forced Andrew out.
23:58There have been allegations there that the royal family was trying to sweep this under the carpet.
24:03In the U.S., there are allegations that the Trump administration is putting pressure to ensure that the president's name
24:09is not there in any redacted file.
24:11Do you believe these powerful forces continue to try to bury the case?
24:18Well, there are over 2 million files they're out releasing right now.
24:22And I want to know what's in it.
24:24So we don't have the answers to that until we see the remainder of the 2 million, which now, you
24:31know, the Attorney General is claiming she'll never release them after promising to release all the information.
24:41Reena, I'm going to leave it there.
24:42I really appreciate you taking the time of early that morning in New York and talking to us.
24:47But this is a case that has global reverberations.
24:50I thank you for joining me and I hope you get closure and justice.
24:55Now, amidst the fallout from those Epstein files, Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates,
25:00who's also finding himself in the eye of a storm after several mentions in the documents,
25:06today finally withdrew from the Global AI Impact Summit in the national capital.
25:11The Gates Foundation announced that Bill Gates would not deliver his keynote address at Bharat Mandapam.
25:17The foundation said the decision was made after careful consideration and emphasized it would continue its work in India.
25:23The foundation was represented at the summit by Ankur Vora, president of the Africa and India offices of the Gates
25:31Foundation.
25:32Aishwarya Paliwal joins us.
25:34Aishwarya, for the last few days, there was all this talk.
25:37Willy Wonty, he had gone to Andhra Pradesh, met Chandrababu Naidu.
25:40But it seems eventually the center decided they didn't want a fresh controversy over Bill Gates addressing the India's,
25:49the AI Summit, while the Epstein files are such a hot potato across the world.
25:56Well, definitely, you know, let me tell you what exactly has happened in the past 24 hours.
26:00There were conversations that, in fact, were taking place, but the government understood that this is a case that that
26:05is not over yet.
26:06We are seeing how not just in India, but across the world, you know, action is being taken.
26:11And Bill Gates being the kind of high profile person that he is.
26:14You know, if we speak about Microsoft, yes, Microsoft is one of the biggest players.
26:18So Microsoft was and still is a part of AI that we are seeing happening here in the national capital.
26:23But with regards to Bill Gates, the decision was taken that we are still seeing the case carrying on.
26:28And we could see some things coming out in the future as well.
26:31That's the reason why we saw that the government was very, very clear that it is better if he stays
26:37away.
26:37And careful thought was being given to him.
26:40That's why we did see, Rajdeep, the official statement coming out just as before we saw Prime Minister Modi at
26:46there.
26:47So the main reason why we are seeing this is because the government understood that this is a case which
26:52will have implications in the future as well.
26:55That's why this decision was taken.
26:57Okay.
26:57Aishwarya Paliwal for joining me now.
26:59Remember, today at the AI Summit, all eyes were on Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
27:03The Prime Minister delivered his speech, setting the tone for where India stands when it comes to putting the country
27:13on the world map as a leader of AI initiatives.
27:17And how industry titans now are openly embracing the need for India to play a greater role in the AI
27:27race.
27:27Listen in to what happened today at the key day at the Global AI Summit.
27:38Two and a half years ago, Sam Altman had dismissed India's advancement in artificial intelligence as hopeless.
27:45He had simply rejected the idea that India could build a competitive foundation model on a modest budget.
27:51Today, the OpenAI CEO is obviously a changed man.
27:56More than 100 million people use India.
27:59In India, use Chachabiti every week.
28:01More than a third of them are students.
28:03India is also the fastest growing market now for Codex, our coding agent that works to help people develop software
28:08faster and better.
28:11India, the world's largest democracy, is well positioned to lead an AI, not just to build it, but to shape
28:18it and decide what our future is going to look like.
28:21And it's important to move quickly.
28:23And he's putting money where his mouth is, launching the OpenAI for India initiative.
28:28This involves investments to power India's sovereign AI infrastructure, enterprise AI adoption, and upskilling initiatives through education partnerships.
28:37The company has also announced that India will play a crucial role in the global Stargate project, a $500 billion
28:43AI infrastructure project announced last year.
28:45The Tata Group has also announced a major partnership with OpenAI.
28:51I think we have announced a partnership where we will bring 120 megawatts capacity initially for our Stargate.A8 data
29:02center.
29:02And it will scale over a period of 10 to 100 gigawatts.
29:07Okay.
29:08And we are building a lot of agent AI-based industry solutions, which we will leverage OpenAI.
29:17And while Sam Altman and Dario Amodei, the other big AI guru, may not see eye to eye or even
29:23agree to hold hands, they do seem to agree on the importance of India on the AI firmament.
29:29Anthropic has announced a deal with Infosys to deliver enterprise AI solutions across telecommunications, financial services, manufacturing, and software development.
29:38Microsoft, which is advancing its co-pilot, JNI, is looking at investing a whopping $50 billion in India and other
29:46South Asian nations.
29:48India has an absolutely central role to play in these questions and challenges, both on the side of the opportunities
29:56and on the side of the risks.
29:57As a sign of our commitment, we just this week opened an office in Bengaluru and hired Irina Ghos, who
30:05has spent three decades building businesses in India as our managing director for Anthropic India.
30:16We've also announced partnerships with major Indian enterprises this week, including Infosys and others.
30:23That's why we at Microsoft announced yesterday morning that we're on pace to spend $50 billion by the end of
30:29this decade to bring AI to the global South.
30:33And of all the countries in which we are investing, India, not surprisingly, is one of the largest.
30:42Meanwhile, Hwang Jensen, the brain behind the world's most valuable company, NVIDIA, may have pulled out from the AI summit
30:48at the last moment, but his dealmakers were active in Delhi.
30:52L&T will be building a gigawatt-scale AI factory infrastructure with NVIDIA to provide AI-ready capacity for high
30:59-density, next-generation workloads.
31:01L&T will be building a gigawatt-scale company, next-generation workloads, next-generation workloads, next-generation workloads, next-generation
31:30workloads.
31:31One of the venture capitalists, one of the venture capitalists, one of the venture capitalists, that's investing majorly in the
31:35AI sector, as to whether India could play a major role or not in the AI revolution.
31:42This was at the India Today AI Summit.
31:45Listen in to what Mr. Taneja had to say.
31:53Heyman Taneja, CEO, General Catalyst, a paschum vihar boy, as he reminded me, now, of course, in the Bay Area,
32:01and someone whose company has, as a global venture capital firm, invested in more than 800 businesses, including, crucially, in
32:10the area of applied AI.
32:11And we're going to focus on applied AI in a moment.
32:14But first, welcome, Heyman, back to your roots, in a way.
32:19But I want to start by asking the big questions that's dominated a lot of the conversation globally in Davos
32:25more recently.
32:28Is AI to be still seen as a bubble, or is it the future that's already here?
32:35Let's settle this once and for all.
32:37Well, as I always say, bubbles are very good for us.
32:40I think what bubbles do is they mobilize talent and capital behind important problems, important technological areas.
32:47So I think in a lot of ways, if you think about it with that perspective, we are in the
32:51AI bubble.
32:52But in the sense that there's so much investment going into it, there are some areas where it'll be some
32:57money lost.
32:58But on the other side of what we're going through now in a few years, you'll see we'll build some
33:02incredible companies and we will change the world with it.
33:04The reason I asked you that is because surely there must come a time that beyond the hype, companies like
33:11you all will demand profits.
33:13That it's not about only AI foundational models, it's about creating products that will give profit.
33:19Are we therefore entering this post-hype phase now where people are getting real and saying,
33:25look, you're going to have to show us products where AI will actually deliver hard revenues and profits?
33:30So look, I'll separate the AI investments into two categories.
33:34One is there's continued investment into research.
33:37And the whole idea is that the token prediction models, the language models,
33:41they will only take us so far from an intelligence perspective and that you'll need fundamentally new breakthroughs.
33:47So there's a lot of capital going into that particular category, which is hard to assess.
33:51When is that going to become a business?
33:53But the promise of it is why capital keeps going into those projects.
33:57But for most of it, which to me is about the applied AI layer, I really don't think that we're
34:04looking for proof points and that they're not showing up.
34:07I would actually argue 2025 was the year that diffusion started.
34:11And the whole investment case of these hundreds of billions of dollars being invested in the computer infrastructure is all
34:19about,
34:19will you actually transpose labor spend into productivity, into AI productivity?
34:24And you started to see evidence of that in enterprises in meaningful ways late last year.
34:31So I do think you're going to start seeing the profit margins come as a result as well,
34:35because now you're doing really high value work with AI.
34:37Give me examples of that, because applied AI itself, the specific areas where you believe that AI will now turn
34:48into a legitimate revenue model,
34:53you are existing companies to make them AI ready.
34:59Is that the way for the future?
35:01Or is it about ensuring that you create new products in specific industries?
35:06And if so, which are those specific industries where applied AI will be transformational?
35:12So look, AI is a transformative force.
35:14And the biggest value is about applying it to enterprises.
35:18So the way I think about is the value getting created or not is look at every department
35:22and think about what is AI enabling to transform those departments in a business.
35:28So if you follow the news, you would say over the last few months,
35:33you're seeing a lot in the programming department, in the coding department with Anthropic and the cloud models.
35:39The continued momentum in the advancement of that technology is really stunning.
35:43You're gone from can these models help you write faster to they're actually generating pieces of software for you.
35:51I think that's a pretty profound implication.
35:55So rather than is this a software tool and therefore a software budget for an engineer,
35:59you're actually getting work done that teams of engineers would do in a matter of days and weeks as opposed
36:06to months and years.
36:07That's high value.
36:08So I think that, if you think about what's the margin in that, you could actually charge for those things
36:13a lot more.
36:13Imagine, there's a version of that going on in customer support and customer success broadly.
36:18There's a version of that going on in sales and marketing.
36:20Every department is going through that kind of a transformation.
36:23But if I were to specifically hone down areas where you believe applied AI will be truly transformative,
36:30to give you examples, healthcare in India is seen as a huge opportunity out there.
36:36Education is seen as a, do you look at those areas or do you look at existing companies and see
36:40how can I transform those companies?
36:42So I think, let me think about the altitude of what you just said.
36:47Step one is to transform the enterprises, right?
36:51If you can make them AI native, then they get unleashed to do all of what you're saying.
36:55If an enterprise becomes AI native, then in its own industry, it can go from being operationally efficient
37:02to having an offering of abundance for their customers.
37:05So if you can actually create AI native hospital that has not only nurses that are taking care of patients
37:13in person,
37:14but also agents that are on the phone that effectively cost, you know, deflationary way, essentially to zero over time,
37:21you would have a free nurse that takes care of everybody, right?
37:23So the transformation is only going to happen when you take your enterprise and transform
37:27and then start to imagine how your offerings should be fundamentally different.
37:32And I sort of use the framework around abundance to take care of your customers and constituents.
37:37The reason I also asked you is because India's experience has been,
37:41we produce a large, strong class of engineers, a large pool of engineers,
37:46but we are producing fewer AI product companies.
37:50And let's be honest, I mean, the Chinese and the Americans have been way ahead
37:53when it comes to innovation at the moment and enterprise.
37:56So what are we missing here?
37:59Are we missing capital, risk appetite, or product thinking?
38:04If we are to also join this engine of applied AI, what does India need to do?
38:11So I'm very optimistic on India.
38:13I would say India is behind when it comes to development of infrastructure.
38:18That's going to be a hard place to go to a computer and try to be a leader.
38:23But the way we think about our investment landscape,
38:26we say there's infrastructure and models, but then there is the application of AI.
38:30And every single company that is doing really well in the U.S.
38:34at the applied AI layer, you know what they have as a core skill set?
38:37They know how to engage with customers in what's now called forward deployed engineering capabilities.
38:43India's IT industry has matured actually into that.
38:46The workforces that you have here are actually pretty good at it.
38:51They just need to be applied towards going to these customers with the AI tool set now
38:55versus your typical digital transformation tool set
38:58and go solve their problems with AI and create these next generation companies.
39:02I do think that's going to get unlocked and create some global companies
39:07that start right here with that kind of a mindset.
39:11No, so do we piggyback in a way on what the Americans have done
39:14or what the Chinese have done?
39:16I think you leverage...
39:18And become the sort of back...
39:19You know, famously 25 years ago, we became the outsourcing capital over time.
39:25Is that the model that we take or do we encourage Indians to innovate and compete in the product space?
39:32Look, I think the definition of products is actually changing in terms of what it means in AI.
39:37You have technologies that it's hard to understand what the capabilities of the models themselves are.
39:43So what do you really build on top?
39:44And so the products that get built are almost sort of thought about in the context of the problem for
39:51your customers
39:51versus you have a minimum viable product that you can go sell over and over again.
39:55So when you sort of grapple with that and understand these are the capabilities of AI.
40:02It doesn't need to be a discrete product.
40:04It needs to understand the problems and solve them structurally.
40:07The whole innovation landscape changes and the talent base here is actually well positioned to go do that
40:11and create these next generation companies for different industries that are using that tool set.
40:17But when you as a global venture capital firm look at Indian companies,
40:22what are the kind of elements that you are looking at when you decide,
40:26I am going to invest in this specific company?
40:29When you are looking at applied AI from your perspective,
40:32what kind of...
40:33Are you looking at companies which will essentially scale up in the shortest possible time?
40:37And if you can give me an example.
40:39I think a couple of things.
40:40One is when it comes to India in particular, because AI is deflationary,
40:45how to bring capabilities in healthcare, in education to the masses
40:51is actually going to be a really interesting opportunity.
40:54If you can solve it for a billion people with all the complexities that lie here in India,
40:58you are going to be well positioned to solve those problems globally.
41:01So I think that's a place where, just like India did with UPI and Aadhar,
41:08the innovations that leapfrogged the world,
41:10I think you are going to see some innovations that come out that way.
41:12The second thing is, you know, can you unleash the AI, the technology talent here,
41:18give them access to these tools, make the use of AI pervasive,
41:21and then go build globally, much like India has started during the SaaS world.
41:26I just think that the paradigms change.
41:27You know, SaaS is not where you're going to create the most valuable companies,
41:31because AI can do that work for you.
41:32Well, then let's use AI and go solve problems for customers with that new technology platform
41:37versus the older metaphors.
41:38Good to have you here and set the stage for what you believe is the future.
41:43It's no longer a bubble, as you said it.
41:45That argument is more or less over.
41:47It is here, and we've got to, in a way, live with it,
41:51and more importantly, use it to our advantage.
41:55Hemant, for joining us here, Hemant Taneja, CEO, General Catalyst,
41:59thank you so much for joining me here at the India Today AI Summit.
42:02Thanks.
42:03Thanks for having me.
42:05Let's turn to a story that should wake us all up.
42:09It's been 10 months since the deadly terror attack in Pehelgaam.
42:12But the loved ones of one of the victims of the terror attack,
42:15Santosh Jagdale, are still waiting for the government's promise of a job to be fulfilled.
42:22Take a look at tonight's special report.
42:29Ten months have passed since terror struck the serene valleys of Pehelgaam.
42:34Santosh Jagdare's life was cut short in a brutal attack.
42:38And today, the promise of security for his loved ones remains unfulfilled.
42:43The Maharashtra government had announced 50 lakh rupees compensation
42:47and a government job for the victim's family.
42:50His daughter, Asavari Jagdare, waits, hoping the government's assurances will finally become reality.
42:58They should have provided me the job long back.
43:01But it's more than 10 months.
43:02And every month, I was assured that by next 15 days, it will be done.
43:07By next 15 days, it will be done.
43:08But unfortunately, in all this process, we didn't get any response, a proper response,
43:14or we didn't get to know where exactly my file was.
43:17Despite repeated visits to the Pune Municipal Corporation and Mantrale,
43:23no appointment letter has been issued.
43:25Officials discussed offering her a Class 2 administrative post,
43:29considering her MBA and qualifications, but the file remains pending.
43:34I was in contact with a lot of people, which include the OSD, PS of Deputy CM Eknar Chindeji
43:43and also CM Office.
43:45But all I got in response was that we are working on it.
43:51It is under process.
43:52It is in Mantrale on XYZ's desk.
43:55Pune Municipal Commissioner Ramal Kishore Ram says the case is being treated as a special matter,
44:01but final approval rests with the ministry.
44:05She is a very well-educated girl and she can be given a very good job.
44:10As per the existing rules, we can give her Class 3 or Class 4 job.
44:15But she is not interested for Class 3 or Class 4 job.
44:18So for getting Class 1 or Class 2 job, there should be approval from the government, state government.
44:25Now Deputy Chief Minister Eknar Chindeji has directed officials to expedite the process.
44:31But for Jabdare family, 10 months after losing their sole breadwinner,
44:36the wait continues for justice and for a promise to turn into reality.
44:42With Om Karwable, Bureau Report, India Today.
44:49Let me turn from there to our Get Real India story.
44:53An unacceptable tragedy in UP's Gorakhpur.
44:56More than a dozen people have fallen victim to a botched up cataract surgery,
45:01with at least nine of them losing their eyesight.
45:05Take a look at Get Real India.
45:24They went in hoping to restore their eyesight, but came back to a lifetime of darkness.
45:31This is the story of more than a dozen patients who became victims
45:34of a botched cataract surgery in Gorakhpur in Uttar Pradesh.
45:39The incident took place at New Rajesh High Tech Hospital in Sikri Ganj.
45:43On the 1st of February, an eye camp was organized with 30 patients underwent cataract surgery.
45:4918 patients developed serious eye infections.
45:52Many complained of severe pain, bleeding and pus formation.
46:17Despite treatment, nine patients eventually had to undergo surgery to remove the affected eye.
46:24Victims allege that complications began almost immediately after the cataract surgery.
46:30These work have been published in the same way.
46:31The eye operation of their eyes was often affected by the point of contact to the doctor.
46:39The eye was not closed, but the doctor told me they will also be blocked by the eye.
46:43With that, the eye operation was done.
46:46The eye operation was done.
46:48The eye operation had collapsed and then died after the eye operation.
46:50After the eye operation had come back to the house.
46:51Then in the evening and then the eye was very few teeth.
47:03The hospital's eye care department is sealed and a magisterial inquiry ordered.
47:24A district level committee has also been formed.
47:28The health department has taken statements of patients and doctors.
47:31For now, the hospital remains sealed and the inquiry report is expected shortly, a report
47:48that could determine whether medical negligence caused 18 people to lose this site.
47:52With Gajendra Tripathi from Gorakhpur, Bureau Report, India Today.
48:02Every time we do a Get Real India story, I hope that there are people out there who realize
48:09that we live in a society which is deeply unequal.
48:14And all the glitz that we see at times, the photo ops and the belief that India has moved
48:24ahead and is moving towards becoming the third largest economy in the world.
48:29While that may be true and the glass is half full, the reminder is that there are parts
48:35of the country where the glass is half empty and it's those parts that we believe our Get
48:41Real India stories attempt to focus public attention on.
48:46Because those are the stories that we hope will make a difference to the lives of those affected.
48:54Governance is critical in a way to ensure a better India.
49:01Okay, enough of the sermonizing.
49:03I am going to give you a good news today story.
49:06The Jammu and Kashmir cricket team has beaten Bengal to reach the Ranji Trophy final for the first time.
49:12That happened yesterday.
49:13They are now one step away from scripting history.
49:16This is truly a good news today story.
49:24We'll play that package in a moment.
49:26But before that, I want to leave you with our image of the day.
49:31An awkward episode unfolding at the AI summit when several global technology leaders joined
49:37Prime Minister Narendra Modi for a photo opportunity.
49:40Sam Altman and Dario Omudi, who run two of the world's most closely watched AI companies,
49:46appeared briefly unsure whether to shake hands, clasp arms, throw their arms up in air,
49:51or simply pose given their friction in recent times.
49:56While everyone held each other's hands as they held them high,
50:00the two ended up simply clasping fists in the air.
50:04They hold each other's hands.
50:06They hold each other's hands.
50:16Fred?
50:39Thank you, Tech Leaders.
50:48So that was the image of the day, the global tech leaders with Prime Minister Modi at the AI Summit.
50:57Now, it's been a summit where we've, of course, seen plenty of action, some mishaps, but plenty also to celebrate
51:08in terms of the fact that India has become the first country of the global south to get all these
51:14leaders to come together on one side.
51:17Let me lead you though, as I promised, leave you with our good news today story.
51:22Jammu and Kashmir entering the Ranji Finals for the first time.
51:26Thanks for watching.
51:27Stay well, stay safe.
51:29Good night, Shubhra 3.
51:30Jai Hind.
51:30Namaskar.
51:44Celebrations on the field and in the dressing room.
51:50After Jammu and Kashmir beat Bengal to reach the Ranji Trophy final for the first time, Abdul Samad and Vanshik
51:57Sharma ensuring an easy win by six wickets.
52:00Achhi jaga per gain, Bazi.
52:02Halka sa go.
52:03Off the wicket movement.
52:04Wicket fans have found a new hero and fastballer Aukib Navi, a judge the man of the match for his
52:09nine wickets across two innings.
52:19Earlier, Navi had taken seven wickets in the match against Madhya Pradesh to take his team into the semi-final.
52:24Navi's family and friends watched the match on TV.
52:48Jammu and Kashmir, Jammu and Kashmir, Jammu and Kashmir.
53:05At the Jammu and Kashmir Cricket Association Stadium, posters hailed Navi, who first made headlines taking four wickets and four
53:12balls during the field last year.
53:18The victory has brought cheer to cricket fans across the union territory.
53:22Jammu and Kashmir, Jammu and Kashmir, Jammu and Kashmir.
53:23The season's goal is to take the Ranshi Trophy final, but today it is my goal is to reach the
53:28Ranshi Trophy team into the final.
53:30But I think today there was a good mission to reach the Jammu and Kashmir and Jammu and Kashmir in
53:51the final.
53:51Every match has been performed. Four wickets, five wickets.
53:54And today, Bengals and Jammu Kashmir have become happy for all of us.
53:59Yes, it's a good thing for Kashmir. They have done a good job for the first time in the final.
54:03They have done a good job in the final. They have done a good job in the final.
54:10Jammu Kashmir cricket team is now one step away from scripting history.
54:14They play Karnataka in the final.
54:18The team is gelling well. Every player knows what his role is.
54:24And most importantly, they have match winners who are in brilliant form right now.
54:28So Jammu Kashmir really scripting history.
54:31And now, just one match away from bringing Ranji Trophy to Jammu Kashmir for the first time.
54:39With Karpasan Tariq Lone, Meer Fareed Sreenagar for India Today.
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