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Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, formerly Prince Andrew, has been arrested by UK police at the Sandringham estate. The arrest is on suspicion of misconduct in public office, linked to allegations of sharing sensitive government data with Jeffrey Epstein while serving as a UK trade envoy. This development coincides with the India AI Impact Summit in Delhi, where global leaders convened. At the summit, French President Emmanuel Macron defended the Rafale fighter jet deal, stating it strengthens India and affirming a commitment to 'Made in India' manufacturing. Prime Minister Narendra Modi introduced the 'MANAV' framework, a human-centric blueprint for AI governance emphasizing morality, accountability, and national sovereignty. The summit also featured the launch of 'Sarvam,' India's first sovereign generative AI platform supporting 22 Indian languages. Meanwhile, Microsoft founder Bill Gates withdrew from his keynote address at the summit after his name appeared in the Epstein files, with his foundation citing a desire to keep the focus on AI priorities.
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00:00The first royal to be ever arrested. We're talking about former Prince Andrew, the brother of King Charles, the current
00:11king and the crown head of Britain.
00:15He's now been arrested in relation to Epstein files, but it's not for the alleged sexual misconduct that we see
00:24in several pictures that have been put out, but for sharing information that was private to the government there.
00:32That and much more, including everything that's happening here at the AI Summit in India, will be the top focus
00:38for us here on Five Live.
00:39I'm Sonal Merotra Kapoor. Let's get started with all the headlines at this hour.
00:47Former Prince Andrew, the younger brother of King Charles, has been arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office amid
00:54the Jeffrey Epstein scandal.
00:56This marks a significant legal challenge for the British royal family.
01:01Andrew Mountbaton-Windsor is the first senior royal in modern history to be arrested.
01:11When asked about Andrew Mountbaton-Windsor's arrest, the UK Prime Minister said that nobody is above the law.
01:19The Prime Minister has said that the principle is very important and has to apply in this case in the
01:25very same way it would in any other case.
01:30Meanwhile, back home, Prime Minister Modi had presented the MANA framework for AI governance with the focus on ethics, accountability,
01:40data sovereignty, accessibility and legal validity.
01:45He has also called for creators' right over content, emphasising principle of jizka data, uska adhikar at the AI Summit.
01:59The Supreme Court has sharply criticised state governments over pre-election freebies, questions how they will fund real development while
02:09offering free food and electricity.
02:11The remarks were triggered by Tamil Nadu's proposal to provide free electricity to all consumers, regardless of income.
02:19The court also questioned why the scheme was announced at the last minute, right before polls.
02:28Crack surface within the India block with allies openly debating leadership.
02:34Congress's own Karti Ishtamaram has pitched for a rotating leadership model.
02:39This after suggestions came in for leaders like Mamata or even Stalin be considered for the India block leadership.
02:47BJP has called the Rahul biggest liability and also claimed that India block is falling apart.
02:58Alliance talks pick up pace in the poll bound.
03:01Tamil Nadu amidst trained DMK Congress ties.
03:04TVK says that they are in talks with the National Party and will announce their poll plan soon.
03:09There has been a big speculation about TVK joining the Congress.
03:14Meanwhile, Congress MP Karthi Chivitam again has now launched a big attack on Vijay.
03:19Says no sane voter will choose Vijay.
03:26Also coming from down south, this time Kerala.
03:29After Kerala story 2, after Kerala story 1, just like the first part, the sequel has also evoked a rough
03:35section of the audience and also the chief minister.
03:40Kerala chief minister Vijayan has now slammed the movie, calling it propaganda.
03:44He claimed that the movie aims to demonize the secular fabric of the state and is an attempt to spread
03:51hatred and communal tension.
03:56Politics over Ramzan relief peaks now.
04:00Maharashtra SP chief Abu Azmi has now urged Maharashtra government to follow Telangana's lead after it granted employees a one
04:10-hour relaxation during Ramzan.
04:12BJP, meanwhile, has strongly objected to the decision demanding that similar concessions be extended to Hindus as well.
04:22Then there are tensions between U.S. and Iran escalating, with Washington reportedly saying it is prepared to launch strike
04:30as early as this weekend.
04:33However, sources indicate that President Trump has not yet made a final decision.
04:38Meanwhile, Israel is said to be preparing for the possibility of war within days.
04:43The U.S. has now deployed two aircraft carriers and 12 warships to the region amid rising tension.
04:54And finally, Bangladesh's new youth and sports minister, Aminul Haq, has now hinted that Dhaka was moving to repair strained
05:03cricket ties with India after a fallout over the ICC Men's T20 World Cup just this year that's underway.
05:09He said he held talks with the Indian deputy high commissioner and also emphasized a desire to resolve differences through
05:18friendly talks.
05:23The big story, the big story, the big development that we are tracking right here on 5 Live.
05:28Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, formerly known as Prince Andrew, has now been arrested by the U.K. police in a dramatic
05:36development linked to the ongoing fallout of the Jeffrey Epstein files.
05:42Officers, we are told, took the Royal into custody this morning, the 19th of February, early in hours at the
05:53Sengham Estate where searches were carried out at properties connected to him.
05:58The arrest today morning, however, is not on allegations of sexual misconduct, but reportedly on suspicion of misconduct in public
06:08office on allegations that he shared sensitive government data and information with Epstein when he served as U.K.'s trade
06:19envoy.
06:21Authorities say that investigation followed a detailed assessment of material connected to the massive document dump released by the U
06:29.S. Justice Department.
06:31We are showing you, you know, some pictures out of that that came out of the dump of the U
06:36.S. Department.
06:37The wider probe comes as multiple British police forces now review millions of pages of Epstein-related files for possible
06:49crimes or even leads, including claims of trafficking, abuse, suspicious flights linked to the financials network.
06:57All of that is now under the scanner.
06:59Andrew, remember, has long-faced scrutiny over his association with Epstein.
07:05You will see those pictures over there that appeared, the very controversial ones, where he is repeatedly seen with him.
07:11He also stepped back, or should we say he was stripped off his royal duties and lost all his official
07:19titles after the scandal.
07:21And previously also settled a civil lawsuit brought by Virginia Gufa, the woman you see over there on your screen,
07:29in 2022 without admitting to any wrongdoing.
07:34Now, officials say that the investigation is ongoing and more details are expected as authorities continue examining evidence and also
07:44witness information.
07:46Before his arrest, the U.K. Prime Minister, Keith Starmer, also maintained that no one is above law and the
07:52law will apply the same way in the case it does in any other.
07:59All right, all that is the information we have at the moment coming to us from London, from the authorities
08:07over there.
08:08But what more do we know?
08:10Now, the U.K. police have issued a statement but have not named the person arrested.
08:15In a statement, the Thames Police actually says, Thames Valley Police has gone ahead to say that as part of
08:22the investigation, we have today arrested a man in his 60s from, you know, they mentioned the place as well,
08:32from the Norfolk's on suspicion of misconduct in public office and are carrying out searches at addresses in Berkshire and
08:40also Norfolk.
08:41The man remained in police custody at this time.
08:45We will not be naming the arrested man.
08:47They're not naming the former prince.
08:50As per national guidance, also says that nobody else should be naming them as well.
08:55Those in U.K. at least also going ahead to say that police have confirmed that the investigation relates to
09:01allegations of misconduct in public office.
09:05But before Prince Andrew's arrest over there, U.K. Prime Minister, like we said, had also reacted to this investigation.
09:13He had said that nobody is above the law and that law will apply in the same way as it
09:18does in any other.
09:19He emphasised that due process must be followed and that investigation should proceed independently.
09:29All right, let's get a perspective on the story now.
09:32Joining me next is the former BBC editor Naresh Kaushik.
09:36Naresh is currently visiting in India but has a lot of perspective on everything that's been going on in U
09:43.K.
09:44Naresh, help me understand this.
09:46We've made it clear now to our audience that unlike what was thought of earlier, this is not for any
09:51sexual misconduct.
09:52This is for sharing information that was private and also privy only in the capacity of then Prince Andrew of
10:03being a trade envoy that he did with Epstein.
10:07All of this, a fallout of the dump that has been issued by the U.S. State Department.
10:14At the moment, do we have any reaction that has come in from the royal family?
10:19No, the royal family hasn't yet reacted but the royal family has been under a lot of pressure.
10:26This is quite an unprecedented thing in the royal family of Britain that a senior member, one of its senior
10:34members has been arrested.
10:36This is quite a stark thing.
10:39What a fall from grace of a man whose king's brother, who was until recently, was known as the Duke
10:49of York or Prince.
10:52But this is also quite historic that his title as Prince was taken away from him.
10:59It was stripped because of the ongoing revelations about the Epstein scandal.
11:04And if you remember, it was six years ago, this all started, although it started quite early.
11:13But six years ago in a BBC interview, he had to admit a few things, although he denied meeting Virginia
11:25Jeffrey.
11:25But he did say that he did have relations with Epstein and Epstein was obviously a pedophile.
11:37And he was already a convicted person, but still he defended his friendship with him.
11:44So this is quite, quite a stark thing.
11:47The royal family in Britain is still very popular, although it's not as popular as under Queen Elizabeth was, but
11:55still has been quite popular.
11:58But this man has really created such a problem for the royal family that King Charles, whose brother Andrew is,
12:11doesn't know how to react, basically.
12:13He was heckled recently by public about Andrew, and he didn't know what to say.
12:19And not the first time, Naresh, is it?
12:22I would request my producers to also bring out the family tree of the royal family that we've got.
12:27We've got that made up as well.
12:29But correct me if I'm wrong, former prince Andrew is the second-born son to Queen Elizabeth, to the late
12:39Queen Elizabeth, and is the brother to King Charles at the moment.
12:44You have that family tree on air for our viewers to see as well.
12:48He's a third-born child and a second-born son to Queen Elizabeth.
12:52He has often, even in the UK press, which we all know by now, does not spare anyone, has been
13:01called the problematic prince.
13:02He has had strange relationships with his own siblings, to the degree that after the death of his mother, when
13:10Prince Charles became King Charles,
13:13he stripped Andrew of all royal, you know, any kind of royal coverage as well.
13:18He was stripped off all his titles, any kind of funds that would go in as well.
13:24This is a strange relationship that has happened, which means that today when he's arrested, he's arrested as a regular
13:30civilian, just happens to be of royal blood.
13:34Yes, he's now simply known as Andrew Mountbatten Wimsa.
13:40He's no longer a prince.
13:42And you're talking about the stripping off his royal titles.
13:46That happened after that infamous interview, which actually, interestingly, he himself wanted to give to BBC.
13:55He wanted to clear his name.
13:56Because if you remember, in 2011, there was a picture of Virginia Jeffrey, you know, with Andrew and Andrew's hand
14:08around her back.
14:11And that picture became quite famous.
14:15And after that, people started talking about it.
14:18And eventually, he has to give this interview.
14:22He thought he would clear his name.
14:25But that actually started all his downfall started after that.
14:29He was stripped of his title.
14:31And after that, you know, what has happened in the recent months, when you have more revelations and more of
14:39his emails exchanges and more of his pictures with Epstein and some other girls emerged.
14:46He had to be, you know, first he had to leave the royal palace.
14:51Then he had to leave another house, which he was entitled to, which he said he bought.
14:58But how he bought, it still remains to be seen.
15:02It's still not clear where he got the money from.
15:05And then he had to leave that place.
15:07And now he's living in Sandringham Palace, which is basically a king's estate.
15:16Sandringham estate.
15:16It's not really a palace, but it's a property of the king.
15:20And he had to, he has been living as a commoner.
15:23So that is, that itself is quite a, you know, a downfall for him, who was once a prince for
15:32him.
15:33Jeffrey Epstein could send someone and he could show around that person, Buckingham Palace.
15:39And all that has gone.
15:41And that has actually, Jeffrey Epstein's relationship with him has been really a reason.
15:48But Nareesh, help me understand this.
15:50The significance of this arrest is multifold.
15:54One, apart from the big headline here, which obviously means that this is the first time ever somebody of royal
15:58blood has been arrested.
16:00This is also the first big arrest we've seen world over in the Epstein Files case.
16:07Anybody featured in the files for the first time we've seen an arrest like this happen.
16:13And when it starts with the former prince, it gives you an idea of where the investigation is headed.
16:19In your understanding, is this just the tip of the iceberg?
16:22Many more names will emerge and not specifically to those which were of sexual misconduct.
16:30But because Epstein was a power broker, his job was in a way to sort of, you know, exchange news,
16:38be privy to what was happening in the back channels.
16:41A lot more names could come out.
16:44Yes, absolutely.
16:45I mean, he's obviously the most famous and is the first important person to be arrested.
16:51But it is quite possible that Peter Mendelsohn, who was until recently the UK's ambassador to United States, he had
17:01to resign.
17:02He was forced to resign.
17:03He also lost his knighthood and created a lot of political problems for Prime Minister Keir Starmer.
17:11He's another person who could be arrested because he's also facing similar questions of sharing confidential public details with Epstein,
17:23which Epstein's misused for his financial gains.
17:27So that is quite significant.
17:29And other names are also, there were many people have resigned, but no one has been arrested.
17:36You are right.
17:36But this is, this has started with a former prince.
17:40This is quite significant.
17:41But having said that, we must also make clear that at the moment, no charges have been framed against him.
17:49He has been arrested on suspicion of, you know, misusing his office and he's divulging secrets with Epstein.
18:01But he hasn't been, that doesn't mean that he has been proven guilty.
18:05And the same is true with other people, including Mendelsohn.
18:09So that we must make clear.
18:11But having said that, there may be other allegations which police in Britain would be investigating against Prince Andrew.
18:22And there will be investigations, I'm sure, about his sexual misconduct.
18:26Because not just Virginia, Jeffrey, there have been other girls who are allegedly being sent to him.
18:35So that is the case against Virginia, he settled.
18:38There was a settlement that happened in that case.
18:40So that's, that's been taken care of.
18:42But what's interesting is, Naresh, that you're saying this could just be the beginning.
18:47There are so many other names that are coming out in UK.
18:49And if that's the case, then what's happening in India?
18:52Let me give you a perspective there, Naresh.
18:53Just stay on with us.
18:54Because what happened in India today was, we don't know if it's a ripple effect of the Epstein files.
18:58But one has to connect the dots somewhere to understand this.
19:02That the Microsoft founder, Bill Gates, who was also due to address in India today, at the India AI Impact
19:10Summit,
19:11chose to opt out last minute, amid his name featuring prominently in the Epstein files.
19:18Now, Gates Foundation on that did issue a statement.
19:21Their statement was very clear.
19:23They said that after careful consideration and to ensure the focus remains on the AI Summit's key priorities,
19:29Mr. Bill Gates will not be delivering his keynote address.
19:33The Gates Foundation will be represented by Ankur Vora, the President of Africa and India offices,
19:38who will speak later today at the summit.
19:40Remember that summit is still ongoing around 5.30 is when the roundtable will happen of the big tech CEOs
19:47with Prime Minister Modi.
19:49We'll, of course, get you all the details of that.
19:50But this is just a bit of an impact there that we are seeing and connecting the dots
19:55into how the entire Epstein files phenomena is unfolding in UK differently,
20:02in India and US differently as well.
20:13India leads the world into AI age.
20:19Prime Minister outlines Bharat's AI roadmap.
20:23AI, as a technique, will be the same as the world.
20:29When it will share the data, when the code will open and share the data,
20:39we will have the same idea that AI will be the same as the global common good.
20:51Manav Framework for Humanity
20:54Manav Vision
20:56Manav Vision
20:57in the 21st century AI
21:02in the world of Manav
21:06will become the most important
21:13world hails India's AI initiative
21:1610 years ago
21:17the world told India that 1.4 billion people
21:21could not be brought into the digital economy
21:25India proved them wrong
21:32Can India emerge as an AI leader?
21:44And let's cut across straight to the big news development
21:48coming to us right from Bharat Mandapam
21:51where the AI summit is happening
21:53and this is an India Today world exclusive
21:56that we are about to bring to you
21:58India Today has now spoken with the French President Macron
22:02he has of course spoken about host of issues
22:06from AI to other developments
22:08also has spoken on Rafal
22:11he has also spoken about how Rafal makes India's defence stronger
22:16and he has also interestingly
22:19bagged made in India Rafals as well
22:22now remember the French President is here in India
22:26long-standing friend of India as well
22:29constantly talking about the exchange of ideas
22:31and industry that takes place
22:33he addressed this morning at the Bharat Mandapam
22:37along with several other CEOs
22:40especially from the big tech that came in
22:42and now in a tete-a-tete
22:44in a exclusive chat that India Today has had with him
22:49he has opened up his heart about so many other issues
22:54let's in fact give you a quick glimpse into that
22:58I don't see how people can criticise
23:01because it makes your country stronger
23:03it increases the strategic relation between us
23:06and it creates more jobs here
23:07and so very clearly we are extremely
23:13I would say committed to having a maximum number of Indian components
23:19and manufacturing maximum number of critical devices in India
23:25this is exactly the rationale under the Tata Airbus deal
23:29so we will do the same for the Rafal you can count on us
23:33as for the free speech
23:35yes
23:35first I saw a lot of people just quoting a small part of what I saw
23:41what I said
23:43my point was just to say I do believe in free speech
23:46but what does it mean free speech means I will listen to you
23:50you will listen to me
23:51and we are in a equal relationship
23:54yes
23:55a lot of people defending free speech
23:58do it based on algorithm without any transparency
24:02with a lot of bias and with their own political agenda
24:06it's not free speech
24:08and when people clearly help hatred speech
24:13racist speech
24:15to be spread all around the place
24:17it's not about free speech
24:18it's a jungle
24:22alright that's a quick glimpse
24:24and conversation that India today managed to have
24:28with French President Macron over there
24:30my colleague Prane Upadhyay joins us for more on this
24:32Prane specifically on Rafal
24:35he says that I don't know why people criticise the entire matter
24:40he says this makes our country
24:43your country stronger
24:44talking to India
24:45he's saying it only makes India stronger
24:48I don't understand why people criticise it
24:51also he responded to a question about free speech
24:55take us to what exactly has he said
24:58absolutely so
24:58and when I asked him about the criticism of Rafal
25:02because we have seen that how the platform got criticised
25:04and in fact got into a political controversy
25:07as well in 2019 onward and after the opposition to
25:10but he said that this is a good platform
25:13and I don't know why it is being criticised
25:15but this only makes India stronger
25:17and I think that's the validation of the fact
25:20that the government of India has decided to buy
25:22114 Rafal fighter jets
25:24besides that he also said that you know
25:26he looks forward for having more indigenised components
25:29in the Rafal aircraft
25:30and this is a new kind of partnership
25:32where France and India would want to take forward
25:35having the joint production, joint research
25:38as far as the Rafal platform
25:39and other military platforms are concerned
25:41and he also emphasised the fact that you know
25:45that India and France are looking at a global
25:47special strategic partnership
25:49which has the global angle
25:50and this is also special
25:51which is unique to India and France
25:53what Prime Minister Modi and President Macron
25:56has agreed and trying to build in this relationship
25:58and also as far as the free speech is concerned
26:01and he tried you know my intention was to ask him
26:05about a clarification because you know
26:07most of the media outlets have covered his statement
26:10wherein he said that you know all free speech
26:13and the argument of free speech by this tech giant is a bullshit
26:17so he said that you know people have taken only a part of my speech
26:20but my idea is that you know I am a votary of a free speech
26:23but in this case you know the free speech should be free
26:28and there should not be algorithmic manipulations behind that
26:32the political agenda shouldn't be pursued in the name of free speech
26:35and therefore the free speech should be really free in terms of the influence
26:39and the political engineering of the algorithms
26:44expand on that Prane a little bit
26:46but before we do that let's try and listen to that entire interaction
26:50you had with Macro one more time
26:51we will come back
26:52I want to go down a little deeper on this free speech aspect of it
26:56stay on with us
26:59I don't see how people can criticize
27:01because it makes your country stronger
27:04it increases the strategic relations between us
27:06and it creates more jobs here
27:08and so very clearly we are extremely
27:14I would say committed
27:17to having a maximum number of Indian components
27:20and manufacturing maximum number of critical device in India
27:25this is exactly the rationale
27:28under the Tata Airbus deal
27:30so we will do the same for the Rafaliuk and Cantonese
27:34as for the free speech
27:36first I saw a lot of people just quoting a small part of what I said
27:43my point was just to say
27:45I do believe in free speech
27:47but what does it mean?
27:48Free speech means I will listen to you, you will listen to me
27:51and we are in an equal relationship
27:55yes
27:55a lot of people defending free speech
27:59do it based on algorithm without any transparency
28:03with a lot of bias
28:04with a lot of bias
28:05and with their own political agenda
28:07it's not free speech
28:09and when people
28:11clearly
28:12help hatred speech
28:14racist speech
28:16to be spread all around the place
28:18it's not about free speech
28:20it's a jungle
28:23very interesting
28:24very very interesting conversation over there Pranay
28:27that you've had with Makarov
28:28what exactly was your question on free speech?
28:31I want to understand on the way he has responded
28:35I exactly asked
28:36I have also shared the question
28:38what I asked also
28:40if you can play that question as well
28:41but let me reiterate my question
28:44because I asked President Emmanuel Makarov
28:48about his media statement
28:49which appeared in many international outlets as well
28:52that he called out the free speech
28:55the argument of free speech by the tech giant
28:57as a bullshit
28:58so to which he responded
29:00that only part of my statement was taken
29:02but he explained his position
29:04and he said that you know
29:05this should be free
29:06I am a votary of free speech
29:07I want free speech to be exercised
29:09but it should be devoid of any algorithmic engineering
29:13and the political agenda behind the algorithms
29:16in the name of free speech to be played
29:18so clearly he said that you know
29:20free speech should be really free
29:22and without any political influence
29:24and political engineering
29:25but you know in the name of free speech
29:27the political engineering of the algorithms
29:29cannot be allowed
29:32Alright Pranay
29:33very very interesting conversation
29:34that you've had on the sidelines of this summit
29:36thanks so much for bringing us up to speed
29:38with all of that
29:38we'll get all those details
29:40and you can catch all those details
29:41again on our website as well
29:43at indiatoday.com
29:45but for the moment
29:46let's take you to other news coming in
29:50Now talking about the AI summit
29:52let's look into that in detail
29:53the world stands at the cusp
29:56of a defining technological revolution
29:58the age of artificial intelligence
30:00and India is positioning itself
30:02at the very forefront of this transformation
30:05Prime Minister Narendra Modi
30:06today formally inaugurated the AI impact summit
30:10at the Bharat Mandapam in Delhi
30:12what we are witnessing at the moment
30:15you know on your screens as well
30:17goes beyond the summit
30:19it is a statement
30:20a declaration that India intends to shape
30:22global AI agenda as well
30:23and this saw lots of leaders in attendance
30:27leaders from across the continent
30:28over 20 heads of states and governments
30:30more than 500 global AI pioneers
30:34CEOs and innovators
30:35have converged here for a six day mega event
30:38and while the summit has been underway
30:41since the 16th of February
30:42today's proceedings mark a defining moment
30:44setting the tone of how the world
30:46sort of approaches AI governance
30:48innovation and collaboration as well
30:52in fact as I bring all that information to you
30:55on your screens right now
30:56are live visuals of Prime Minister Modi
30:59in his one-on-one conversation
31:01with President Macron
31:02you see that over there
31:04they are catching up here
31:06in the national capital
31:07on the sidelines of the AI impact summit
31:10that India has organized
31:12the first time ever
31:13the global south takes center stage
31:15when it comes to conversations on AI
31:17and there you go the pictures
31:19that have just come in
31:20but what exactly is happening
31:22and what makes this summit
31:24so so historic right
31:27let's talk about that a little bit
31:29while you look at those visuals
31:31you know the first unveiling
31:33that really happened at the AI summit
31:35was the MANAV framework
31:37MANAV human
31:39and the human framework
31:41of the artificial intelligence
31:43entire you know conversation
31:45the government blueprint that places
31:47morality accountability
31:49national sovereignty
31:51accessibility and legitimacy
31:52at the heart of AI development
31:54and all of this signaling that technology
31:57must at the end of the day
31:59serve humanity as well
32:01there are other big bits that came out
32:03of that AI summit as well
32:05let's take you to that
32:06number two on our list
32:07is the sheer global participation
32:09from policy frameworks
32:11to industry titans
32:13this is the one of the most significant
32:14AI gatherings that we have seen
32:16across the globe at least here
32:18in the global south as well
32:19the third big development
32:20unprecedented diplomatic engagement
32:22with also world leaders
32:24acknowledging India's central role
32:25in steering AI conversation
32:27the fourth one a massive vote
32:29of confidence in AI's
32:31India's AI ecosystem
32:32with Indian and global firms
32:33pledging billions of dollars
32:35in investment boosting
32:36infrastructure R&D as well
32:38and the fifth one
32:39the clear and consistent message
32:41that future of AI must be built
32:43on trust on ethics on responsible
32:46deployment as well
32:48the AI ages here in India
32:50is also not just participating
32:53taking the lead over there
32:55but it would be unfair to rank
32:57one takeaway you know above another
33:00but if there is one declaration
33:01that defines the spirit of the summit
33:03it is the MANAV vision that we saw
33:06for artificial intelligence
33:08what exactly is MANAV that we have
33:10spoken about M for moral and ethical systems
33:13A for accountable governance
33:15N for national sovereignty
33:17A for accessible inclusion
33:19and V then for valid and legitimate
33:21together all of this was a vision
33:23that India has given to the world
33:27in attendance as we talk about AI
33:30and attempt to take a lead at it as well
33:36साथियों
33:38आज
33:39New Delhi AI Impact Summit में
33:42मैं AI के लिए
33:46M-A-N-A-V
33:49M-A-N-A-V
33:51M-A-N-A-V
33:52मानव
33:55मानव
33:56मानव
33:56विजन पस्तुत करता हूं
33:58मानव का अर्थ होता है
34:00human
34:00और मानव विजन कहता है
34:04M
34:05Moral and Ethical Systems
34:09यानि
34:10AI
34:12Ethical Guidance पर आधारीत हो
34:15A
34:17Accountable Governance
34:20यानि
34:21Transparent Rules
34:23Robust Oversight
34:26N
34:28National Sovereignty
34:31यानि
34:32जिसका डेटा उसका अधिकार
34:38A
34:40Accessible and Inclusive
34:44यानि
34:46AI
34:47Monopoly नहीं
34:49Multiplier बने
34:51V
34:53V
34:54Valid
34:55and Legitimate
34:57यानि
34:59AI
35:01Lawful
35:02और
35:03Verifiable हो
35:05भारत का
35:07ये
35:08मानव विजन
35:11एकिस्वी सदी की
35:13AI आधारी दुन्या में
35:17मानव ताके कल्यान की आहम कडी बनेगा
35:21Today, some say AI is a game only the biggest can play.
35:26That you need 400 billion dollars to be in the race.
35:30That nothing can exist between the two blocks.
35:32India, France, Europe, together with our partners, those who believe in our approach.
35:40Companies, governments, investors might have a different way.
35:45The money race is important and we cannot discount it.
35:48But the outcomes and real value creation for our population is even more.
35:54The future of AI will be built by those who combine innovation and responsibility.
36:02Technology with humanity.
36:06And India and France will help to shape this future together.
36:12And the journey has just begun.
36:16Jai Ho.
36:21All right, so that is what all the leaders over there had to say.
36:24But what was India today's own assessment on this?
36:27I thought who better than Cyrus to call upon and understand and pick his brain
36:31on what he thought was the big takeaway from the AI summit.
36:35So Cyrus is with us here in the studio. Cyrus, you've been going there every day.
36:38You had some good, bad experiences.
36:41You had some eye-opening experiences as well.
36:43Take us through what you found were your top five moments.
36:47Well, we'll talk about the good experiences.
36:49There has been so much happening at the AI summit that it's very difficult for us to compress everything.
36:55But yes, because of which we have five important points where the focus has been and where the world needs
37:02to look.
37:02Now, when we talk about the AI summit, one of the major important points is the infrastructure.
37:09Now, no country in the world can build AI without infrastructure.
37:13When I say infrastructure, GPUs. Now, when I say GPUs, what are they?
37:18The microchips in your computer or your smartphones that run all the operations.
37:22Think of GPUs as the brain for AI to process.
37:25All of these images, the videos that you are creating are because of GPUs.
37:29Now, India already had a cluster of 38,000 GPUs.
37:32Now, the Prime Minister said that we are adding 20,000 more GPUs to that lot,
37:38which makes the processing power even better. And that's great.
37:41Now, imagine such resources at the disposal of so many engineers who can use this and then create AI.
37:50I mean, algorithms would be better. Their processing will be better.
37:53So, infrastructure is very important.
37:54And also important is the investments that are coming in.
37:58Data centers. Now, Reliance and Adani both have said that they're investing billions in data centers,
38:03which will also not only give you the compute power, but the data will be sovereign.
38:08It will be inside over here.
38:09And that's also something very important in terms of infrastructure.
38:12And global companies and India together have gone on to invest more than $260 billion
38:18and promised that this is the investment that will come in in the future.
38:22So, yes, infrastructure is also very important.
38:24The next point that I would like to also talk about is global partnership, which means that even the Prime
38:31Minister has said that a partnership is pivotal
38:33whenever you are looking to create AI for the globe.
38:37And another key takeaway is creating the AI in India because it is always important whenever the controversy that we
38:45had with Grok,
38:46they were looking to shut down Grok for reasons, which is where I feel that an AI for India is
38:52important with Indian languages.
38:53Because, remember, only 10 to 12% of the population speaks English and the rest of the population requires reasonable
39:01languages to have their AI assistance for.
39:04So, yes, the importance of creating sovereign AI is also key.
39:08And then, last but not the least, talking about the jobs.
39:12The job market is also something that's very important.
39:14We need to talk about the disruption of the job market.
39:18Many of the top leaders have gone on to say that, yes, it will take away the white collar jobs.
39:23It will take away tier one jobs, but the opportunities will also come in the future.
39:28However, the concerns are about the pace at which AI is replacing jobs, whether it will be able to create
39:36jobs at the same pace.
39:37And that's something that a lot of people have been talking about at the summit as well.
39:41But, again, lots more to come.
39:43I believe the summit has given a platform to a lot of the companies that have come here.
39:47Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, to not only showcase their wares, but also talk about what they will do for India.
39:54Because, remember, India at the end of the day is a population, is a tech-savvy population that is consuming
40:00a lot of these AI tools.
40:03We are one of the biggest users of ChatGPT.
40:05But the problem is, how does this trickle down to the rest of the population?
40:09And that's where India is saying that we are having this summit.
40:12You need to come up with innovations to make tools for the rest of the India, make for the infrastructure,
40:19create for infrastructure, build for more innovations that will serve the other Indians, the rest of the India that we
40:26are talking about.
40:27So, yes, a lot to take away from the India.
40:29I feel the next leg, wherever it is, is going to be more important.
40:33And India is going to be a key speaker, a key power in that summit as well.
40:36Yeah.
40:38And also, you know, Sairis, we keep talking about it.
40:41We want AI to solve for real problems, real problems like air pollution.
40:45We want AI to solve for traffic.
40:47We want AI to solve for health, for cancer.
40:49We want AI to solve for things that are integral to humanity.
40:54And at the moment, it feels like that AI is solving for a lot of stuff, but perhaps a lot
40:58of it has got to do with big tech.
41:00So we've got to watch this space and see how carefully that moves as well.
41:03But for the moment, that was Sairis bringing you up to speed with all the big takeaways from the AI
41:09Impact Summit.
41:10Thanks so much for that.
41:14The AI Summit has had its fair share of controversies as well.
41:18The one moment today truly stood out.
41:20Two of the world's brightest AI leaders found themselves side by side during a group photograph at the summit.
41:28But they are far from being called allies.
41:32That photo op has really become the talk of the down and perhaps the picture that will go back of
41:37the big tech from this AI Summit.
41:39Sam Altman of Open AI and Dario Dio of Anthropic appeared visibly reluctant when they were asked to hold hands
41:47as part of the ceremonial photo op.
41:50See that visual one more time. I'm sure you have already. And if not, just sort of revere in that
41:55moment a little bit.
41:56Behind that awkward moment lies a very, very deep rivalry.
42:01You see how awkwardly he doesn't know what to do with his left hand and the Anthropic CEO doesn't know
42:06what to do with the other.
42:07Then they both hold it up, but they're not holding each other's hand.
42:11This is quite a striking picture of how the big tech evolves and the conversations that are.
42:20What exactly is the awkward moment all about?
42:23Now remember, the Anthropic CEO once worked very, very closely with Sam Altman serving as even the vice president of
42:33research at Open AI.
42:34But he later exited the company over concerns that Open AI was accelerating commercial sort of deployment faster than safety
42:44safeguards.
42:45Of course, he went on to found Anthropic, positioning it as a safety first AI company.
42:51And today, Open AI and Anthropic are amongst the fiercest competitors in artificial race.
42:57But perhaps all has not been buried between the two.
43:01And that was on full display for the world to see.
43:20Thank you, tech leaders.
43:22Welcome back.
43:22India has now officially secured its place on the global AI map with the launch of its first sovereign-gen
43:29AI brand, Sarvam.
43:31Developed by Bengaluru-based company, the platform is based on sovereign data, is designed to bring benefits of artificial intelligence
43:39to the country's 1.45 billion citizens.
43:41And the two models launched today, this morning, were Sarvam Vision and Bulbul V3, an engineer to bridge the massive
43:50digital divide by supporting all 22 official Indian languages through intuitive voice commands.
43:57Now, unlike any other global counterparts that often sort of struggle with local nuances, these India-first models excel at
44:06understanding what you and I call Hinglish.
44:10And complex, real-world document laid out with an accuracy that outperforms even the world's largest AI systems.
44:18You know which one I'm talking about.
44:19Now, for the average user, this means that high-end technology is no longer sort of gated by English literacy,
44:26enabling anyone to manage tasks like financial planning, coding, or even navigating government services in their own native language.
44:36So, what did we do?
44:37At India Today, our editor, Siddharth Zarabi, sat down with Pratyush Kumar, the head of Sarvam.
44:45Listen in to this very interesting conversation.
44:49Representing the aspirations of 1.4 billion Indians, Dr. Pratyush Kumar, co-founder of Sarvam AI.
44:56And the unique thing about this company is that it has given us our very first and very own sovereign
45:02AI model.
45:04Welcome.
45:05Congratulations on behalf of the entire network, as well as hundreds and millions of Indians who really would want you
45:12to first tell us about this moment and how significant it is,
45:16because the world of AI is still being discovered and the tens of thousands who have come here are experiencing
45:22it, they want to touch and feel it.
45:23But you have done something that till a few months ago, many people said, oh, India can't, India shouldn't, it
45:30will take too much money, too much effort.
45:32How does it feel?
45:33No, I'll accept your congratulations on behalf of a very hard working team.
45:38Absolutely.
45:38It really is locked and built something with a lot of energy and passion.
45:43See, AI is something which is something everybody experiences today.
45:48You all use a variety of tools.
45:50And there's a lot India is doing in using AI, right?
45:53A variety of use cases across enterprise, people and so on.
45:57What we are looking at is building AI.
45:59Can we actually build our own AI?
46:01Why?
46:02Because, well, we are in a post-AI world.
46:05We are never going to go back to pre-LLMs, large language models.
46:09Such an important country and such an important technology cannot not have an overlap, right?
46:15India should be building its own thing.
46:16What we have tried to do is, in a period of the last six, seven months since we got support
46:22from the government,
46:23be able to take a large amount of GPUs or compute power and train our own large language models,
46:29which are meaningfully large so that they are useful and competitive with global benchmarks of how these models perform on
46:37various tasks.
46:38Without getting too technical, is it now a stage where instead of using the word LLM, we should use the
46:44word ILM, Indian language model?
46:47Sure.
46:48I mean, I think these, interestingly, these technical words are becoming day-to-day word map, right?
46:54So, I think it's a very exciting idea.
46:56Yeah.
46:57Okay.
46:58Explain to us what this journey has meant.
47:00How did you get here?
47:02Because I'm coming to that point again.
47:04Someone as famous as Sam Altman kind of said that, you know, India shouldn't be even trying to do this.
47:12Indians are known for frugal engineering, for Jugaad.
47:16What has this journey been?
47:18What has it meant for you and your hardworking team?
47:21I think there are two sides to this notion of frugality, right?
47:24I think sometimes it is thought of as Jugaad as a hacky solution, not doing the right thing, finding some
47:29other workaround.
47:31The other thing is actually doing it in a resource efficient way, right?
47:34If you think about it, the training of these large language models.
47:39But, back to theenden.
47:39Let's go.
47:39Yeah, I did not bite to your schedule for sand所 and we're cool in of the past.
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