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00:00We have to start with the biggest revelation of the series so far.
00:08Fiona is the secret traitor.
00:10Your reactions to that?
00:12Little red riding water.
00:14With a little basket and everything, she's welcome.
00:18It is, of course, Fiona.
00:20I mean, I was willing it to be Fiona.
00:23From episode one, I was like, please let it be Fiona.
00:26Did any of us suspect that it was Fiona?
00:29Angela, did you have any suspicions?
00:31I had, like, hopes that it would be Fiona because she's so unassuming.
00:35I mean, obviously everyone was like, oh, she's playing a good game,
00:38being a bit ditzy and kind of clueless, as if that was a pretense.
00:42But I thought, oh, that's actually quite an obvious kind of line to tread.
00:46But I just love her voice and her insight and how sweet she looks outside.
00:53And then she sits in that chair and she's like, they haven't seen me coming.
00:58She's like rubbing her hands together.
01:00She's a beast and I love her.
01:02I love it.
01:03What about you, Max?
01:04Did you suspect?
01:05I suspected her when she was in the car and she brought up Rachel's name
01:08because up until that point, nobody had really suspected Rachel.
01:11And then out of nowhere, she brings it up.
01:13But she didn't try too hard.
01:14And I thought, you know something here, love.
01:16You know.
01:17And she did.
01:18She did.
01:19She did.
01:20I thought, to be honest, it was like, it was so obvious it could have been her,
01:22but it couldn't have been her.
01:23Yeah.
01:24She's so cute and so innocent looking.
01:25She's the perfect pick for it.
01:26She's perfect.
01:27Oh my God.
01:28And then she went so hard for Hugo, I thought maybe she's not.
01:31I was watching it going, surely that it's not going to be another Welsh person.
01:35They have done a lot.
01:36So many Welsh people.
01:38We've had Amanda.
01:40Amanda.
01:41We've had Andrew.
01:42And then we had Charlotte.
01:43We've had a fake Welsh traitor.
01:44And now another real Welsh traitor.
01:46And Hugo was Welsh as well.
01:48Yeah.
01:49So this has done a lot to ruin the reputation for Welsh.
01:51Were there any clues that could have led us to Fiona?
01:54We've got the handwriting.
01:56Did anyone notice similarities with the handwriting with the murder shortlist and the slates?
02:01That was one thing.
02:02Oh, I didn't even think of that.
02:04Well, I did think the handwriting was so good that a younger person might not have done that.
02:10You know what I mean?
02:11I just think younger people use technology a lot.
02:13Speak for yourself.
02:14I've got useful handwriting.
02:15Sorry.
02:16But I was like, it's an older person.
02:18That was my initial thought.
02:19I definitely thought it was going to be a female.
02:21Yeah.
02:22It's got to be a female.
02:23Because she was going for the lads all the time.
02:24The men were on the chopping block for a long time.
02:26So it's like, yeah, it's got to be a good lady.
02:29So in episode one on the way to the mission, I don't know if anyone else picked up on this.
02:33James says that no one in the car that he's in does he suspect to be a traitor.
02:37And Fiona's in that car and does a quiet little sort of smile out of the window.
02:42Just glances off.
02:43I missed that.
02:44I actually...
02:45Did you catch that?
02:46I did catch that.
02:47But I think Fiona always looks like she's like, got sun shines a lollipop.
02:51So she's just looking around and just having a great old time.
02:53I think she's played it beautifully.
02:55She is.
02:56There was also, and I mentioned this on a previous episode of Uncloked,
02:58my biggest clue that Fiona was the secret traitor,
03:01the comment of saying, at home I've got a red bather that's a thong.
03:05Your husband's not going to recognise you when you get home.
03:08You're just doing all this exercise.
03:09I'm going to be like Cindy Crawford.
03:12Be on Baywatch, ready for Baywatch.
03:14It will.
03:15Yeah, I will.
03:16I've got a little red bather, which is a thong.
03:22Don't think I need to know that.
03:25That to me is the biggest clue.
03:26Yeah.
03:27100%.
03:28There's no way they're including that in the edit.
03:30It's not a huge clue.
03:31And she threw it in on purpose.
03:33She's like, I'm going to mention red and I'm going to do it.
03:35Give it a little one for me, hubby at home.
03:38A little wink.
03:39Love her.
03:40Husband's thinking, I've never seen that.
03:41That's not fair.
03:42She's all talk.
03:45As a former traitor, how do you rate her gameplay so far?
03:48It's 10 out of 10, isn't it?
03:49It's got to be 10 out of 10.
03:50As long as she tones it down at some point.
03:52Yeah.
03:53It's just great.
03:54And it's entertaining.
03:55It's really entertaining to watch somebody who's fully in the role
03:57and just enjoying it.
03:58Obviously, I cried all the time.
03:59So it's like watching somebody who's just enjoying it
04:02and taking it as a game.
04:03It's nice to watch.
04:04Yes.
04:05And Max, as a super fan,
04:06this has obviously been our opportunity to play the game at home.
04:09Have you enjoyed that?
04:10Loved it.
04:11Because I was dissecting everybody's glances,
04:14everybody, even the tone of their voice
04:16when they would say certain things.
04:17I found myself this season more than ever
04:19really paying attention.
04:20Yeah.
04:21And it just kind of showed to me
04:22how hard it is as a job of being a faithful.
04:25Let's talk about Fiona's relationship with the other traitors
04:28now that she's revealed herself.
04:30It's a little icy in here.
04:33Look at you voting out Hugo.
04:36Do you know what?
04:37He messed up big time.
04:39So I had to go gun-ho on him.
04:41Okay.
04:42It had to be done.
04:43I basically have done your job for you for the last few nights.
04:46She's already got the villain's life.
04:47She's phenomenal, isn't she?
04:48Unbelievable.
04:49So brilliant.
04:50I think that that could be her biggest downfall,
04:52is like Rachel actually said earlier in the show,
04:53no two traitors have ever won it together.
04:55So you've got to have your fellow traitors on side really
04:58to get to the end because they can throw you under the bus
05:02just as easily as you can throw them under the bus.
05:04Well Miles, you know that more than anyone else.
05:07Take a minute's silence.
05:08What do you make of the heightening tension in the turret?
05:10I think the thing is,
05:11I think Rachel is very much like she said,
05:12was the driving seat.
05:13Kind of had Stephen under her first seat.
05:15Yeah, she's a little bit of a seat.
05:16She's a little bit of a seat.
05:17She's a little bit of a seat.
05:18And she's a little bit of a seat.
05:19She's a little bit of a seat.
05:20I think the thing is,
05:21Rachel is very much like she said,
05:22it was the driving seat.
05:23Kind of had Stephen under her thumb.
05:25And then Fiona's come along now with this kind of powerhouse,
05:28especially with the attitude.
05:29And so the alliances are kind of shattered
05:31because then Stephen's the kind of one in between the two ladies.
05:34And I think it depends on how it kind of falls.
05:36He just needs to let them fight out, doesn't he?
05:38Yeah, just don't get involved.
05:40But I think you do need your traitors.
05:42Your traitors need each other at certain points.
05:44Yeah.
05:45And as soon as that kind of starts crumbling as you saw.
05:47Especially this early in the game as well.
05:49It's very early.
05:50It feels like they need to stick together for a little bit.
05:52I mean, obviously in series three,
05:54we saw a fairly united traitors tunnel.
05:57It feels like things are crumbling pretty quickly.
05:59I think Hugo being chucked so quick
06:02has kind of made them all a little edgy maybe.
06:05I think Hugo was the kind of common enemy, wasn't he?
06:08He's not going to last.
06:09Easy time.
06:10He's not going to last.
06:11And the Faithfuls were annoyed by him,
06:12and so were the traitors.
06:13So you've got no chance, mate.
06:15Yeah, yeah.
06:16Now, speaking of Fiona,
06:17as we have been for pretty much the whole episode,
06:19her take on the mission was rather relaxed.
06:23She could not care less.
06:25No.
06:26I love it so much.
06:27She's walking around.
06:28Literally trolling him.
06:29What would you say then, Angela?
06:30If you was in that box...
06:31I'm about to die.
06:32I'd be like, Fiona, babes,
06:34love you, love your pace.
06:35Generally enjoy the way you exist in the world,
06:39but get your arse in gear.
06:40Get your arse in gear.
06:41Do you like spreading an ankle?
06:42I'm not interested.
06:43The mission as a whole was quite a brutal display of allegiances,
06:46because people had to pick the people they were protecting.
06:48Poor Sam.
06:50Poor Sam, completely alone.
06:52No one picked him.
06:53Apart from Rachel electing Amanda over fellow traitor Stephen,
06:57were there any other pairings that you found surprising?
07:00I think they were quite random, to be honest.
07:02From what we've seen,
07:03there weren't too many alliances that I could tell, so...
07:06Are we surprised that Sam was the one who was left out?
07:08I think...
07:09No.
07:10No, I was.
07:11No, I wasn't,
07:12because I think he gives up that vibe.
07:14Yeah.
07:15I even thought he was a secret traitor for a while,
07:17because he gives off that vibe like,
07:19I'm playing the game by myself.
07:21Well, soon we'll be getting Ross's reaction to the secret traitor twist,
07:24which, unbeknownst to the faithful,
07:26has been controlling the castle since the start.
07:29But first, we finish this episode with traitors Rachel and Fiona
07:32having to put their differences aside
07:34and decide who to kill to take suspicion of fellow traitor Stephen.
07:38So their choices are Sam, Rhys and Maz.
07:42Protect Maz at all costs.
07:44What I love about Maz, he's clearly such a sweet man.
07:48Yeah.
07:49When he finds out he's on this, you know, big shortlist or whatever,
07:52that he's one of the people who could be murdered,
07:54he's like,
07:55oh, this is awful to be on the murder shortlist.
07:57And you want to go,
07:58brother, you've been on that list every day.
08:00You've been dodging them day and day.
08:02If only you, Fiona, has been whacking you on the shortlist
08:05every single day.
08:07Why? I don't understand Fiona's problem with that.
08:10He's so innocent.
08:12Yeah.
08:13But I liked how when he was in the cage,
08:15he's like,
08:16I was in the police force.
08:17This is whatever happens here is grand.
08:20Clearly, everyone is involved in the police force.
08:23Quite a lot.
08:24Maz needs to go.
08:26I'm really sorry.
08:27How dare you?
08:28Rhys already has suspicion on him.
08:30So you'd leave him in
08:31because they're going to banish him at some point anyway.
08:33Yeah.
08:34So you'd get, like, I'd get rid of Maz
08:36because people would be like, what's going on?
08:37Why would they get rid of Maz?
08:38It would just cause a bit more confusion.
08:40Then they'll look at Rhys a little bit.
08:42And Sam's got a lot of suspicion on him as well.
08:44Yeah.
08:45So I think that's really sad to say.
08:46I'm sorry.
08:47I love Maz as well, but see later.
08:48Do we think murdering Sam takes the spotlight off Steven at all?
08:51Because Sam led the Judy banishment charge
08:54and he's been a bit quiet ever since.
08:56Sam just acts like a traitor sometimes.
08:58Yeah.
08:59He kind of gives that traitor confidence maybe.
09:02Even too much.
09:03If he kind of calms it down and becomes a good faithful.
09:06I don't think he seems like he's got a good alliance
09:08with many other faithfuls.
09:09Still really handsome guy.
09:11Oh, Alex.
09:12It's because everyone thought he looked like you.
09:15That's why.
09:16Oh, what, did they?
09:17Sorry.
09:18I'm not on socials very often.
09:22Let's look at murdering Rhys as an option.
09:25Because it was neck and neck between him and Ross at the round table.
09:28He basically just got absolved of a lot of suspicion on him
09:31because he got so emotional.
09:33No, but the fact that Steven saw that happen,
09:35as a traitor I would then go,
09:37guys, this happened in the kitchen.
09:38We need to nail him.
09:39Murder Rhys.
09:40You know, Harriet saw him crying
09:41and she was a big force in getting rid of Hugo.
09:43She no longer has any suspicion on him.
09:45It's kind of useless.
09:46We may as well get rid of him.
09:47Yeah, that's interesting.
09:48But yeah, I suppose in that moment,
09:50Steven is not deciding who to murder, of course.
09:53True.
09:54Because he's locked in a cage.
09:55I mean, I'm gutted for Steven
09:56because this feels like a huge mistake.
09:58Did anyone spot the particular slip-up at the round table?
10:02Let's have a little reminder.
10:05There's just one point as well that I wanted to make.
10:08These murders in plain sight, right,
10:10they are designed to give us clues, okay?
10:13Because you're asking the traitors to do something
10:15whilst everyone is running wild around the castle, okay?
10:18Yeah.
10:19True.
10:20So, who was the last person I saw at that painting?
10:23Yeah.
10:24And I've spoken to you before, Maz, through this process.
10:26Yeah.
10:27And so I was thinking to myself last night,
10:29you know, or sorry, this morning after we found out
10:32how, you know, the thing was done.
10:35Dude.
10:36Dude, he's got to be more careful.
10:38And he was so confident.
10:39He was like, I'm going to smash this talk.
10:41At that moment.
10:42One of the tells, though, I noticed in that
10:44is that he finishes every sentence with okay,
10:46which I think he's giving himself a breather
10:48to get my next sentence with you.
10:49Yeah.
10:50It's not enough of a breather, though.
10:51Okay.
10:52So, last night in the turret.
10:53He had a full knife.
10:54We were talking in the turret last night.
10:56Okay.
10:57So, I'm a traitor faithful.
10:59Well, banished faithful Ross joins us next.
11:01But first, let's see how he reacted
11:03when he found out the identity of the traitors
11:05just after he left the game
11:07at Claudia's surprise morning round table.
11:14It's frustrating having been voted out.
11:17Honestly, I had a perfect theory.
11:20Come on now.
11:21Like, literally, we know one of those five
11:24had to be a traitor.
11:26And they've set me up.
11:27And ultimately, I could tell on that round table
11:31they just were not listening to the facts
11:34that I was laying down.
11:36Traitors-wise, I think there were four.
11:38And at least one of those five
11:41who heard Ben's dying words is a traitor.
11:45And of those five,
11:47Ellie, I think, is a traitor.
11:49Stephen, I think, is a traitor.
11:52And then Fiona.
11:55It's so hard.
11:56It's so hard.
11:57But I do think Fiona is a silent assassin.
12:00Final one is Harriet.
12:02And it's just because of her behaviour
12:06on that last round table.
12:08It didn't make sense that she wasn't listening
12:09to what I was saying there.
12:11Is this now...
12:12Is this the point where I can now find out
12:13who the traitors are?
12:15All right.
12:17Oh!
12:22Oh!
12:23Here we go.
12:24Oh, mate.
12:25Okay.
12:32Yes!
12:34Stephen.
12:35I did know Stephen was a traitor.
12:37This makes me feel so good
12:40because I knew it!
12:41That's a win for me.
12:42I'll give you that.
12:44All right.
12:45Do you know what?
12:46I'm a bit worried to see who the next one is.
12:58Rachel!
13:01That has stunned me.
13:06I'm not going to lie to you.
13:08Rachel was completely off my radar.
13:11I just thought she was just being unnecessarily stubborn.
13:14Ultimately, the traitor's plan was to get me out at the round table.
13:19And she guaranteed, without suspicion,
13:22I'd always get at least one vote.
13:24I am super surprised Ellie's not on this list.
13:28She was really weirdly quiet at the round table.
13:30That was really weird to me.
13:32That surprised me.
13:34She has been a faithful.
13:36And I was wrong.
13:38And Ross is with us now!
13:41Yay!
13:45Welcome.
13:46Welcome to Uncloaked, Ross.
13:47Thank you so much for having me.
13:48It's a delight to have you here.
13:50Under sad circumstances, of course.
13:51You've gone out quite early.
13:53You know what?
13:54I'm actually really happy with my run.
13:55Honestly, I feel like blaze of glory, you know?
13:57Yeah.
13:58It was a huge blaze of glory.
14:00In a way.
14:02Jilted! Jilted!
14:04We'll talk about your whole game.
14:06But first, I do want to hear why you thought your own secret girlfriend was a traitor.
14:12So you lot don't know who I ever have at home.
14:15And so she'd be like freezing up.
14:17I'm really nervous.
14:18And then I'm like, I'm literally under fire here.
14:21Who's got a chance?
14:22Who's nervous?
14:24And so I just couldn't empathise with her finding the experience so intimidating.
14:30Was there beef and onion when you got home?
14:31No, no, no, no, no.
14:32Maybe a little bit, yeah?
14:34It was more, I was like, you know what?
14:36I didn't want her to go crazy, but I was like, a little...
14:39A little down.
14:40Sorry.
14:42A little left hook.
14:43Like a little defence or leading the charge in an opposite direction, maybe.
14:47Don't get me wrong.
14:48The plan was, you know, we're working for the household.
14:50Don't sacrifice yourself.
14:51Of course.
14:52But I was like, don't do nothing.
14:53Yeah.
14:55Buck me up a bit over here.
14:57But I did see later on in some bits that actually, you know,
14:59she was, she had my back, so, do you know what I mean?
15:01Well, she must have felt quite sort of torn,
15:04because she was also watching you have the most stressful game anyone's ever had.
15:08I think because it was as soon as you got out of the car,
15:10when normally you can relax and sort of take the castle in,
15:13Nettie runs towards you, and from that moment on, you were under suspicion.
15:17At the time, I'd seen Nettie, like early, let's say 20 seconds before.
15:22Yeah.
15:23And so I was like, yes!
15:25I've got a secret ally.
15:27Not another one.
15:28A secret ally.
15:29It's supposed to be 22 strangers.
15:31It's 20 plus Ross and Nettie.
15:34And Ellie.
15:35And Ellie.
15:36Yes, and Ellie.
15:37Be for home, definitely be for home.
15:41And Nettie's gone, Ross!
15:44And I was like, no, no!
15:45And so I've frozen, because I'm like, oh, this is not good.
15:47Yeah.
15:48And she's running, she's jumped into my arms.
15:50And the problem with that, it's also that I'm like,
15:53everyone was like, oh, Ross, how was, you know, it looks really suspicious.
15:56And I'm like, I don't care about you lot right now.
15:58Yeah, yeah.
15:59Someone who, my partner who has no idea who they are,
16:01just jumped into my arms.
16:02Like, you guys have got the wrong priorities!
16:05And really, I really...
16:06Ellie's like, oh, really?
16:08Yeah, yes, yes!
16:09You've got some explaining.
16:10You've got some explaining.
16:11Is there footage anywhere of Ellie finding you in the castle
16:13and going, who the hell is that?
16:16And that's what my actual initial fear and worry was.
16:19And so what's annoying and frustrating is,
16:21I'm trying to hang it up and be like, oh, my God!
16:24Who is the... I can't believe...
16:26It's my platonic friend from years ago.
16:29Exactly!
16:30Wasn't a platonic friend.
16:31And so, yes, yes, yes.
16:32Okay.
16:33Just for clarity.
16:34No, no.
16:35It's actually genuinely innocent, but it looks terrible.
16:41Look, you guessed Stephen,
16:43and we also saw in that clip, you guessed Fiona as well.
16:46You referred to Fiona as a silent assassin.
16:48Yes, that's true.
16:49You couldn't have been much closer, you know,
16:51secret traitor, silent assassin.
16:52I just noticed she'd...
16:54Like, I've spent a lot of time with Fiona.
16:57She's switched on.
16:58She's really, really switched on.
17:00So when she'd say stuff every now and again, like...
17:03What did he say?
17:04What did Ben say?
17:06I was like, you...
17:08You're asking a question you knew the answer to.
17:10Yeah.
17:11And so, for me, I was like, that was a flag.
17:13But it wasn't like a...
17:15Yeah.
17:16And, I mean, we're talking a lot about the Library Five.
17:19So the people who heard Ben's final words to look at you if he died.
17:23And so you suspected Stephen because of that.
17:25And Fiona was also there.
17:26It was two of the Library Five.
17:28That's true.
17:29That's true.
17:30And so, in my eyes, it was those three.
17:33I knew that...
17:35This is gonna sound a bit arrogant, but I felt like Fiona would not kill me.
17:40Yeah.
17:41And so, because of it, I was like, there's no point actually going out with Fiona.
17:44I'm obviously not gonna ruin the household.
17:46Yeah.
17:47And so, Stephen was actually the only viable person of that five who was like, yeah, you can go.
17:53Yeah.
17:54And so, it just made sense to kind of...
17:56So, you were so adamant it was Ellie.
17:57Like, you were like...
17:58Oh, yeah.
17:59I was...
18:00I couldn't...
18:01At that time, I could not think of any other reason for her to be so out of character.
18:05Like, if you know...
18:06If you guys...
18:07I would say if you know Ellie.
18:08She's actually a, like, wild...
18:10Like, I'm actually the calm one.
18:12Really?
18:13Yeah.
18:14She seemed so quiet.
18:15That's it.
18:16And so, I was more like, who are you?
18:18Like, I was...
18:19She's only chill when her boyfriend's under the threat of banishment.
18:22That's the only time she takes a back seat.
18:24You know what?
18:25I...
18:26After watching the first episode, I did now notice that basically, other than us two on the train,
18:31where she's smiling and a bit like...
18:33Every other scene was like...
18:35Yeah.
18:36She's terrified.
18:37Yeah.
18:38Can we talk about the moment on the train, Ross?
18:41Obviously, you're trying to conceal that you're in a relationship.
18:45I'd say it's the most obvious thing I've ever seen in my life.
18:48That conversation, the...
18:49I'm from London.
18:50Is it?
18:51Is it?
18:52I think, is it?
18:53Is it?
18:54I went, is it?
18:55Hey!
18:56That was a good moment.
18:58Is it?
18:59I think, is it, will be your legacy on this show.
19:01I hope so.
19:02No one's ever been that surprised to hear someone's from London.
19:06Well, Ellie's claimed that she's going to avenge your banishment.
19:10I hope so.
19:11Yeah.
19:12I hope so.
19:13She should do.
19:14She's got...
19:15I feel like I've laid the clues.
19:16You know?
19:17With evidence.
19:18It was beautifully articulated and very calm.
19:20I just...
19:21Yeah.
19:22But then Rachel went, what was the turret like?
19:23And you were like...
19:25Oh, my God!
19:26I don't know what anyone would say in that situation, though.
19:28I know.
19:29You pretending that you didn't know what the turret was was brilliant.
19:31We should talk about this.
19:33Let's remind ourselves of that moment.
19:34Brilliant.
19:35Can I ask you a question?
19:36Please.
19:37Was Hugo this dramatic in the turret?
19:39Was Hugo this...
19:42I'm sorry, I don't understand.
19:43Was Hugo dramatic in the turret?
19:47I didn't...
19:48In what turret?
19:51Oh, she's so evil.
19:52And she's like, I rest my case.
19:56She's savage, man.
19:57I mean, a brutal move from Rachel, I think.
19:59Wild play.
20:00And then she tries to claim it was a joke afterwards.
20:02She's like, I jokingly said this.
20:03Yeah.
20:04It's like, your face wasn't showing that.
20:05That was a little jokey joke.
20:06Yeah.
20:07But then...
20:08I mean, look, I felt bad for you for this whole game, Russ.
20:11Because from minute one, you're like, no one else is under suspicion.
20:13You get out of the car, Nettie runs up to you,
20:15and the game never slowed down from that point.
20:17Yes, sadly.
20:18So I understand there's so much going on at this point,
20:20you're going to go, what turret?
20:22But have you worked out what the turret is yet?
20:24I do, man.
20:25Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:27Oh, hats off to you.
20:28He's had the hardest start I've ever seen anybody have.
20:30These are your worries.
20:31It's the most brutal Rachel V Ross since Friends Season 7.
20:37It's such a leading question though as well, isn't it?
20:39I thought that was her slipping up.
20:41So what's really funny was, when that was going on,
20:44I was like, bruv, have you just outage yourself?
20:47And also, what I didn't want to do at the time as well was say traitors.
20:51I don't know why, in my head I just thought,
20:52if you say traitors, people will associate you with...
20:55Yeah.
20:56And I was like, bruv, that...
20:57And I still thought it was a weird thing to say,
20:58but I understand now the game was a powerful thing to do.
21:01Max, how would you cope in that situation
21:03if you were at the round table?
21:04I think I would cry and run away.
21:07I don't think that would raise any suspicion whatsoever.
21:10Yeah.
21:11Ross, why did you and Ellie decide to go into the game together?
21:14Ooh, so actually, Ellie was the one that applied for us.
21:17Yeah.
21:18And we loved the show.
21:19Yeah.
21:20So we'd watched season two and three,
21:24and then when she said we should try for it,
21:27I was like, you sure?
21:29Because obviously, so many people...
21:31It's such a popular show, so many people on it.
21:33And so yeah, not really like that.
21:35Has it brought your closest together?
21:36Yes.
21:37Yes.
21:39Or has it exposed some serious flaws in your relationship?
21:44Love Island!
21:46To be fair to you, I've seen a lot more already, actually,
21:50if that makes sense.
21:51Because I think, especially in a relationship-wise,
21:53I don't know if you're competitive,
21:54but she'd keep her guard up quite a bit.
21:57So now understanding, oh, that's what that face means,
22:00has been really, really helpful because like...
22:04No, it's been good.
22:05I've seen your own reactions on TV.
22:06It is.
22:07It's like, oh, that's what my face looks like.
22:10Were there any moments when you're in the castle
22:13that you nearly slipped up,
22:14that you nearly sort of revealed a little bit
22:16of the secret relationship to the other players?
22:19No.
22:20I was actually really playing with it.
22:21Weirdly, our relationship was the most fun
22:24and comfortable thing for me, personally,
22:26because I just...
22:27I don't know why, arrogantly, I knew nobody would guess.
22:30Yeah.
22:31And especially, obviously, after the Nettie scenario,
22:33I was like, bruv, we can do whatever.
22:34But there was no point at the end of the day.
22:38Let's just go to get you.
22:42At the end of the day,
22:43you didn't like accidentally kiss her on the lips
22:44and then have to kiss everyone on the lips.
22:48That's why he got banished.
22:50It's not an excuse anymore.
22:52Yeah, we're going to have to get rid of Ross.
22:54He keeps snocking with her.
22:58It's obviously out there now
22:59that you and Ellie are in a relationship,
23:01but when the first three episodes were going out,
23:04have you been trying to not be seen together?
23:07Oh, yes.
23:09We've had to leave the house at separate times.
23:13We went to go watch the first episode up.
23:15My family's together.
23:17Ellie took a big jacket and sunglasses.
23:21We're going over the top.
23:22And I get it, to be fair,
23:23because we live where we live
23:24and so we don't want people to ruin the fun.
23:27Yeah, yeah.
23:28And so, yeah, we've been doing every bit extra,
23:30which has been a bit long,
23:31but it's fun.
23:32And also, I'm telling friends, bruv.
23:35Yeah.
23:36Because I was going to say,
23:37the neighbours next door are like,
23:38hey, hey, hey, yeah.
23:39They're neighbours.
23:40They're my neighbours.
23:41I've been using this emoji non-stop.
23:43And then everyone else has been like,
23:44keep it to yourselves.
23:45And also, because it's fun.
23:46You get to share in the secret.
23:48You're in the circle.
23:49Yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:51Who do you think is going to survive
23:52tonight's face-to-face murder, Ross?
23:54We've obviously got...
23:55Stephen.
23:56We've got Stephen.
23:57Stephen will survive, yeah.
24:00Really?
24:01We should survive,
24:02because obviously if I was a traitor,
24:03I'm keeping him to Helen.
24:05Yeah.
24:06I'd probably kill Maz.
24:07That's what I said.
24:08I said that.
24:09But we love Maz.
24:11I love Maz, I'm sorry Maz,
24:12but explain yourself.
24:13I love Sam,
24:14but Sam has rubbed some people
24:16not the right way.
24:17Yeah.
24:18So, actually...
24:19The wrong way.
24:20Ross is so nice,
24:21he won't even say the word wrong.
24:22The incorrect way.
24:24The incorrect way.
24:25Yeah.
24:26You've rubbed me not the right way.
24:30I can't do it!
24:31Feedback.
24:32A little feedback for you there.
24:33Yeah.
24:34Yeah.
24:35The turret.
24:36What turret?
24:37Yeah.
24:38Ross, although your time was cut savagely short,
24:41you've entered the Traitor's History books,
24:43because you are the second Ross to be in a secret relationship.
24:47Yay!
24:48The other one with his mum!
24:50Yay!
24:51Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:52Of course.
24:53You watched that season!
24:54You follow in the footsteps of secret son Ross to Diane,
24:57who is of course,
24:58Miles' murder conquest.
25:00Congratulations.
25:01We'd like to commemorate that here on Uncloaked.
25:04A little portrait for you to take on.
25:06So you can have the other Ross at home.
25:10We'll have all the Rosses.
25:11All the Rosses.
25:12We can take that home with you.
25:13And we've sent him one of you as well, so.
25:16Nice.
25:18Well, we're out of time for part one,
25:20but we'll keep chatting over on BBC Sounds.
25:22I'm going to ask Ross more about his secret in the castle,
25:25and if Fiona's arrival in the turret will make or break the traitors.
25:28Plus, there'll be more from Angela, Max, Wilf and Miles.
25:31It's all in your bonus episode of Uncloaked,
25:33which you can hear right now.
25:34Just scan the QR code on the screen
25:36and listen to us as you get ready for bed.
25:38I'm back on Thursday night straight after episode five
25:41with celebrity faithful Mark Bonner
25:43and series three faithful Fozier
25:45to see who hasn't made it through the night,
25:47and if that murder has successfully thrown the scent
25:49off of traitor Steven.
25:51Big thanks to Angela, Max, Wilf, Miles and Ross,
25:53and to you for watching.
25:54I'm Ed Gamble.
25:55Stay faithful.
25:57Woo!
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